We are aware of a potential protest being organised in Nottingham on Wednesday evening.
The location has no links to the business advertised on the internet.
Officers have visited the address and it is home to an elderly person with vulnerabilities.
We don’t know who is “organising” what, TBH
Is this just going to go on and on?? I kinda expected it to end by now. This is about day 7??
Starmer can't even bring it under control, despite his Bunker Rants.
That's how shit he is.
He accused musk (fairly, to my mind) of stoking tension what that mad “civil war” tweet, but then he says “we will have a standing army ready to crack down”
A standing army? How is that different to predicting civil war? Worse, he’s the prime minister, so it’s much more important and visible
I can see why pollsters say voters are not impressed
You are aware that the UK, like nearly all countries, has a standing army?
Plus the modern police force would have been seen by the libertarian slaveowners of the American Revolution as a standing army.
Where did this "standing police force" or whatever it is phrase come from?
I'm aware of the two-tier policing talking point that was pulled out of someone's (Lee Anderson's, perhaps?) butt, but I haven't sourced the other one.
Did the PM actually say that?
As far as I am aware no. IIRC he has stated that there will be police reinforcements on standby to be sent to troubleshoots.
Which has been a thing in dealing with widespread disorder, since before the General Strike.
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
So, what, now you don’t believe me? That I voted for this twat Starmer? What would I gain from lying to you about my vote?! What do I care what you think of my vote? You seriously over estimate your salience in my mind
I thought you were just an AI, er, "persona" generated by The Speccie!
The **** ******* ****** should ***** and ***** his ***** to *****.
Starmer should serve his revenge cold. I have a suspicion he might be quite good at that.
On the VPN thing. As with any terrorist organisation, a VPN might hide your tracks to some extent but it isn't a defence against a criminal charge if that's what you've done
The reason for what amounts to panic, in some governments, about end-to-end encryption, is that it provides total security. Which can't be broken by court order.
The panic is more about in my view and this is opinion not fact
Before the internet information was a 1 to many broadcast. You had a few companies publishing information for people to read, governments could apply pressure on the few to not publish inconvenient facts
After the internet information was a many to many broadcast. There are too many publishing inconvenient facts for governments to pressure
Along with the after internet era however you also got the ability to publish many to many falsehoods which is a downside
Before the internet era however governments had the ability to push convenient falsehoods which was a downside
For all the downsides I prefer the after internet era
That's just the "information wants to be free" thing from 1997
Nothing much has changed, since CNN got caught with Tailwind.
Keeley is the real deal. Not just the best 800m runner in the world but a really personable and relatable person (for a super hero). There are always a lot of stars in an Olympic year but for me she is nailed on SPOTY.
We are aware of a potential protest being organised in Nottingham on Wednesday evening.
The location has no links to the business advertised on the internet.
Officers have visited the address and it is home to an elderly person with vulnerabilities.
We don’t know who is “organising” what, TBH
Is this just going to go on and on?? I kinda expected it to end by now. This is about day 7??
Starmer can't even bring it under control, despite his Bunker Rants.
That's how shit he is.
He accused musk (fairly, to my mind) of stoking tension what that mad “civil war” tweet, but then he says “we will have a standing army ready to crack down”
A standing army? How is that different to predicting civil war? Worse, he’s the prime minister, so it’s much more important and visible
I can see why pollsters say voters are not impressed
Starmer probably believes his own propaganda that this is all the work of "racists" and they need to be crushed and defeated, and that'll be the end of the matter.
Quite aside from that not being the case he doesn't have the balls to do it in any event, thus earning the contempt of both sides.
Remind you of something? He's a reverse-Conservative. Just the left-wing version.
Actually I think he was using the riots in a nakedly political way, in a deliberate attempt to smear and deligitimise the political right. Which apart from being a huge hostage to fortune (given the fact that events can turn and counter protestors can become dangerous and menacing very quickly), is one of the least statesmanlike things that could possibly be conceived. He is meant to be a sober authority figure in contrast to the outgoing Government. Instead he's using the pulpit of Prime Ministerial office to push a divisive left wing agenda. Frankly I think even Jeremy Corbyn would have contrived to show greater balance and statesmanship.
Keeley is the real deal. Not just the best 800m runner in the world but a really personable and relatable person (for a super hero). There are always a lot of stars in an Olympic year but for me she is nailed on SPOTY.
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
I don't have any problem believing it. @Leon loves winners, whether they are despots, crooks like Trump or psychopaths like Putin. In contrast he despise losers and Sunak was a loser. He finds losing a moral flaw, evidence of weakness. Starmer was obviously going to be the winner. Who cares what he actually stands for?
lol. There is a absolutely something in that (tho your slurs about Trump and Putin are unfair, I revile both)
But, yes, one of the less important reasons I voted for Starmer was the psychological feeling that, for the one and surely only time in my life, I would be voting for the winner, THE winner. The actual prime minister. Kir Royale Starmer
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
I don't have any problem believing it. @Leon loves winners, whether they are despots, crooks like Trump or psychopaths like Putin. In contrast he despise losers and Sunak was a loser. He finds losing a moral flaw, evidence of weakness. Starmer was obviously going to be the winner. Who cares what he actually stands for?
lol. There is a absolutely something in that (tho your slurs about Trump and Putin are unfair, I revile both)
But, yes, one of the less important reasons I voted for Starmer was the psychological feeling that, for the one and surely only time in my life, I would be voting for the winner, THE winner. The actual prime minister. Kir Royale Starmer
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
I don't have any problem believing it. @Leon loves winners, whether they are despots, crooks like Trump or psychopaths like Putin. In contrast he despise losers and Sunak was a loser. He finds losing a moral flaw, evidence of weakness. Starmer was obviously going to be the winner. Who cares what he actually stands for?
Well it's history now. Fish and chip paper.
The important thing - and I'm so pleased and relieved about this - is that now the Biden Harris switch has happened he's with you and me and all the good people of this world in rooting for Donald Trump to get his ass handed to him on November 5th.
Refused to watch it, but if some utter moron called Nigel Farage hadn't posted fake news, it might not have escalated in the way it did. What a disingenuous prick!
Pupils opted to get their grades by text message or email, but those opening an email from the Scottish Qualification Authority (SQA) were disappointed to see a blank space where the exam results should be.
The chief executive of the SQA apologised to pupils for a “technical issue” causing a delay to some results sent by email. It's estimated that around 7,000 pupils were affected.
No surprise. The SQA Chief Executive is Mrs. Angus Robertson. The NU10K exists in Scotland too.
We are aware of a potential protest being organised in Nottingham on Wednesday evening.
The location has no links to the business advertised on the internet.
Officers have visited the address and it is home to an elderly person with vulnerabilities.
We don’t know who is “organising” what, TBH
Is this just going to go on and on?? I kinda expected it to end by now. This is about day 7??
Starmer can't even bring it under control, despite his Bunker Rants.
That's how shit he is.
He accused musk (fairly, to my mind) of stoking tension what that mad “civil war” tweet, but then he says “we will have a standing army ready to crack down”
A standing army? How is that different to predicting civil war? Worse, he’s the prime minister, so it’s much more important and visible
I can see why pollsters say voters are not impressed
Starmer probably believes his own propaganda that this is all the work of "racists" and they need to be crushed and defeated, and that'll be the end of the matter.
Quite aside from that not being the case he doesn't have the balls to do it in any event, thus earning the contempt of both sides.
Remind you of something? He's a reverse-Conservative. Just the left-wing version.
But it is all the work of racists.
That doesn't mean that there aren't concrete social reasons why the post-industrial towns that Farage persuaded to blame immigrants for the ills of post-Thatcherisn are more disproportionally coming to the fore more than, say, London, which has had much more actual experience of recent.immigration. But, in their very great majority so far, these aren't people seeking a "debate:", but simply wanting to target any or all minorities. The government has no choice but to crack down very hard, in that situation, and think about underlying causes and background later on.
Pupils opted to get their grades by text message or email, but those opening an email from the Scottish Qualification Authority (SQA) were disappointed to see a blank space where the exam results should be.
The chief executive of the SQA apologised to pupils for a “technical issue” causing a delay to some results sent by email. It's estimated that around 7,000 pupils were affected.
No surprise. The SQA Chief Executive is Mrs. Angus Robertson. The NU10K exists in Scotland too.
The NU10K exist in every state where the Old10K went out of business. In the remaining states, the Old10K are still in charge.
The second article is incorrect. During the first lockdown there was an exception that permitted demonstrations to take place with additional measures designed to mitigate the spread of Covid.
throughout the national lockdowns the regulations have been clear that protest does not fall within the lawful exceptions to the prohibition on gatherings
Oh for fuck sake you pathetic snowflake. You're wrong, suck it up like a good little boy... So, shove your 'L' where the sun doesn't shine and read shit before posting.
If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell
Thank God the Tories are not in charge for this. Can you imagine the carnage while they held back for fear of alienating the Reform voters they want to bring on board for an autumn election? We got very lucky last month getting them out just in time.
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
Who probably also happen to be poor, white people.
That's disingenuous to us poor white people. Most of us don't riot.
Most men don't rape women either, yet I am assured rape is the fault of all men.
What a silly post. You're better than that 'Tubbs.
I'm not. Its been a long day.
In general I think the danger is that too many are ignoring the left behind of the country, AGAIN. Nothing makes racism right, nor rioting, but its essential to ask why things happen. Too many of my colleagues at Uni could not understand the Brexit vote because 'everyone I know voted remain'. Well yes, you know upper middle class academics.
There are many UK populations. Most are decent, kind folk. Some are not. Some are bitter, twisted, racist thugs. But a lot of people do feel left behind and feel that the country has let in too many immigrants. Thats not my opinion, but if you don't understand that viewpoint (while disagreeing) you will never understand the reasons.
My admonishment was for your "rape" comment.
I am well aware of the "left behind". They have been left behind for generations by the Labour party in Northern, Midlands, Scottish and Welsh s***holes. Hence they voted, SNP, Leave and "lent"their vote to Johnson in 2019, who also left them behind. They lent their vote to Farage in 2024 and probably 2029. He will let them down too.
When the politicians let them down the politicians look for scapegoats. The EU, foreigners, scroungers, illegal immigrants. Scoundrel like Farage buy the easy win, so we are where we are.
You say they are let down - but what exactly do they want and is it achievable?
The problem is that a lot of people want the impossible and don't understand that that is not achievable...
I go back to public funds being corruptly milked by late Labour Councillors like T. Dan Smith instead of funding civic society. Teesport smells similar, and in national government we had the PPE affair.
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
That wasn't particularly unknown in the tech community and was often pointed out. VPN's however can offer anonymity if you are careful in choosing the right solution for you
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
They aren't a magic bullet, but i don't see the connection to bitcoin that has a publicly searchable ledger. One you know a persons wallet address you can search everything ever they have done. No log / mixed IP VPN services you can't do that.
The weakness with VPN is you machine is comprised, the VPN service isn't doing what they claim / is comprised and even easier you social engineer people to trust an outsider (which is how most criminals are caught).
Encrochat secure messaging was hacked by security people, but after that they went one better and simply sold phones to criminals directly that were comprised.
We are aware of a potential protest being organised in Nottingham on Wednesday evening.
The location has no links to the business advertised on the internet.
Officers have visited the address and it is home to an elderly person with vulnerabilities.
We don’t know who is “organising” what, TBH
Is this just going to go on and on?? I kinda expected it to end by now. This is about day 7??
Starmer can't even bring it under control, despite his Bunker Rants.
That's how shit he is.
He accused musk (fairly, to my mind) of stoking tension what that mad “civil war” tweet, but then he says “we will have a standing army ready to crack down”
A standing army? How is that different to predicting civil war? Worse, he’s the prime minister, so it’s much more important and visible
I can see why pollsters say voters are not impressed
You are aware that the UK, like nearly all countries, has a standing army?
Plus the modern police force would have been seen by the libertarian slaveowners of the American Revolution as a standing army.
Where did this "standing police force" or whatever it is phrase come from?
I'm aware of the two-tier policing talking point that was pulled out of someone's (Lee Anderson's, perhaps?) butt, but I haven't sourced the other one.
Did the PM actually say that?
As opposed to the sitting down police force, AKA traffic police.
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
So, what, now you don’t believe me? That I voted for this twat Starmer? What would I gain from lying to you about my vote?! What do I care what you think of my vote? You seriously over estimate your salience in my mind
Well your vote is at odds with your politics. So if it's true you voted Labour you either betrayed your politics or you disrespected the democratic process.
I’m afraid I see BBC Verify as a load of self-aggrandising, self-satisfied nonsense.
Concentrate on reporting the facts and let people make up their own minds. You don’t need a separate unit to bestow its seal of approval on what constitutes “truth.”
The point of BBC Verify is to respond to misinformation online. Material appears online. People are uncertain whether it’s true or not. BBC Verify investigates. It’s not bestowing a seal of approval on what constitutes “truth”. It is responding to a very specific, real, modern problem.
And we should consider the BBC trustworthy enough to verify for what reason?
Only 44% of britons consider the bbc trustworthy or very trustworthy.....slightly less than the number of people who thought scottish independence was a good idea
FWIW I think the BBC is in a narrow respect a fairly trustworthy outfit, in the sense that it rarely broadcasts lies as truth, doesn't invent things from whole cloth and on many issues keeps a better balance than most.
Its biases are shown in how it selects what to report, at what length and frequency, and it what it misses out.
Its examples of the malign effects of benefits cuts/the system generally are taken from the lives of worthy characters in tough situations; it never looks carefully at cases of unworthy benefits junkies with old sofas in their front garden with a side hustle in drug dealing.
Such stories often are incomplete. A regular feature of them is covering with proper sympathy a mother with three small children, without any reference at all to the fathers of the children. A recent one was about the travails of such a family where the mother was earning £48,000 pa.
It constantly reports on how government could and should spend more but never on how government could and should spend less, and takes no interest in those who think that government should be less interventionist rather than more.
In the end the BBC can look untrustworthy for reasons other than actual factual accuracy.
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
The block chain is designed to track transactions. That's the basic point of it. Bitcoin implements it in a way that makes some suspect that Bitcoin was a fishing expedition by the NSA. In the style of the BCCI.
Hence the tiresome sludge of BitcoinKilling "coins" that the scammers shove out.
VPNs are designed to obscure transactions and connections. Which they do moderately to extremely well, depending on the implementation and vendor.
The second article is incorrect. During the first lockdown there was an exception that permitted demonstrations to take place with additional measures designed to mitigate the spread of Covid.
throughout the national lockdowns the regulations have been clear that protest does not fall within the lawful exceptions to the prohibition on gatherings
Oh for fuck sake you pathetic snowflake. You're wrong, suck it up like a good little boy... So, shove your 'L' where the sun doesn't shine and read shit before posting.
If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell
Again, you post selectively, leaving out the parts where I showed you were wrong, and then quote some shite to prove you were right all along. I am trying to explain the law to you without disingenuously leaving bits out, and you just carry on selectively quoting the bits you like. Take the L mate (as you put it) before you make more of an arse of yourself. I've set out the law, cited the regulations, and all you've got is insults. Go home.
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
That wasn't particularly unknown in the tech community and was often pointed out. VPN's however can offer anonymity if you are careful in choosing the right solution for you
The point is that the way VPNs are being sold, and the technical capabilities of them, may not be quite congruent.
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
So, what, now you don’t believe me? That I voted for this twat Starmer? What would I gain from lying to you about my vote?! What do I care what you think of my vote? You seriously over estimate your salience in my mind
Well your vote is at odds with your politics. So if it's true you voted Labour you either betrayed your politics or you disrespected the democratic process.
Oh good grief, could you get more pompous?
There was a serious reason for my vote, too. I want - or wanted - Starmer to have a big majority. The worst possible outcome for Britain was a feeble NOM Labour govt
I had hopes (maybe I still do) that Labour - eg - might reform the NHS. For that you need the confidence of many MPs
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
They aren't a magic bullet, but i don't see the connection to bitcoin that has a publicly searchable ledger. One you know a persons wallet address you can search everything ever they have done. No log / mixed IP VPN services you can't do that.
Also there will never be a perfect anonymity solution, most are just making it so hard for the jackboot authorities to trace what you have been doing that its really not worth it unless they suspect you of a really heinous crime like putting pineapple on pizza
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
The block chain is designed to track transactions. That's the basic point of it. Bitcoin implements it in a way that makes some suspect that Bitcoin was a fishing expedition by the NSA. In the style of the BCCI.
Hence the tiresome sludge of BitcoinKilling "coins" that the scammers shove out.
VPNs are designed to obscure transactions and connections. Which they do moderately to extremely well, depending on the implementation and vendor.
And the capability of the user to actually configure and use it correctly.
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
The block chain is designed to track transactions. That's the basic point of it. Bitcoin implements it in a way that makes some suspect that Bitcoin was a fishing expedition by the NSA. In the style of the BCCI.
Hence the tiresome sludge of BitcoinKilling "coins" that the scammers shove out.
VPNs are designed to obscure transactions and connections. Which they do moderately to extremely well, depending on the implementation and vendor.
Guido is talking about Council tax switching to a proportional system of x %(0.5%) of the current value. I suspect it's going to happen because changing the bands is impossible as even he points out...
Starmer has failed his first test as leader. I don't think lefty's should be so certain if a ten year Labour rule anymore.
Shit, isn't he? Anyone else earned such a collapse in public confidence inside their first month, except Truss??
Strangely, Starmer's favourables have increased among 2024 Conservative voters like yourself if we are to believe Opinium.
Yes, his favourables have fallen very slightly among Labour and LD but compared to Liz Truss, whose approval number was -33% within a month of taking office, Starmer is doing pretty well.
We are aware of a potential protest being organised in Nottingham on Wednesday evening.
The location has no links to the business advertised on the internet.
Officers have visited the address and it is home to an elderly person with vulnerabilities.
We don’t know who is “organising” what, TBH
Is this just going to go on and on?? I kinda expected it to end by now. This is about day 7??
Starmer can't even bring it under control, despite his Bunker Rants.
That's how shit he is.
He accused musk (fairly, to my mind) of stoking tension what that mad “civil war” tweet, but then he says “we will have a standing army ready to crack down”
A standing army? How is that different to predicting civil war? Worse, he’s the prime minister, so it’s much more important and visible
I can see why pollsters say voters are not impressed
You are aware that the UK, like nearly all countries, has a standing army?
Plus the modern police force would have been seen by the libertarian slaveowners of the American Revolution as a standing army.
Where did this "standing police force" or whatever it is phrase come from?
I'm aware of the two-tier policing talking point that was pulled out of someone's (Lee Anderson's, perhaps?) butt, but I haven't sourced the other one.
Did the PM actually say that?
As opposed to the sitting down police force, AKA traffic police.
Don't you mean the "Eternal Flames" of the police force?
So named, by the colleagues, because they never, ever, go out.
Walz has two great advantages as a politician: He is not a lawyer -- and he is a winning football coach. (Most Americans dislike lawyers -- and love winning coaches, especially football coaches.) "After returning, Walz took a job teaching and coaching in Alliance, Nebraska, where he met his wife, Gwen Whipple, a fellow teacher.[11] He and Gwen married in 1994, and moved two years later to Mankato in Minnesota, his wife's home state,[11] where he worked as a geography teacher and coach at Mankato West High School.[10] He coached the football team to its first state championship in 1999." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz
And, then there is this: "Walz was ranked the 7th-most bipartisan House member during the 114th Congress (and the most bipartisan member from Minnesota) in the Bipartisan Index created by The Lugar Center and the McCourt School of Public Policy, which ranks members of Congress by measuring how often their bills attract co-sponsors from the opposite party and how often they co-sponsor bills by members of the opposite party."
Good comment. Neither part of the "liberal elitist" tag is going to stick.
Early signs are that the Trump campaign is already flailing around, trying to find an effective attack.
I quite like the "first non-lawyer on a Democratic ticket since Jimmy Carter" line.
Average blood pressure in the posh bit of Sheffield increases a little.
It isn't a good idea for Dems to mention Jimmy Carter.
The second article is incorrect. During the first lockdown there was an exception that permitted demonstrations to take place with additional measures designed to mitigate the spread of Covid.
throughout the national lockdowns the regulations have been clear that protest does not fall within the lawful exceptions to the prohibition on gatherings
Oh for fuck sake you pathetic snowflake. You're wrong, suck it up like a good little boy... So, shove your 'L' where the sun doesn't shine and read shit before posting.
If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell
Refused to watch it, but if some utter moron called Nigel Farage hadn't posted fake news, it might not have escalated in the way it did. What a disingenuous prick!
He needs to be investigated when parliament returns.
The second article is incorrect. During the first lockdown there was an exception that permitted demonstrations to take place with additional measures designed to mitigate the spread of Covid.
throughout the national lockdowns the regulations have been clear that protest does not fall within the lawful exceptions to the prohibition on gatherings
Oh for fuck sake you pathetic snowflake. You're wrong, suck it up like a good little boy... So, shove your 'L' where the sun doesn't shine and read shit before posting.
If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell
Is that a Donald Trump quotation?
"It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations"
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
Who probably also happen to be poor, white people.
That's disingenuous to us poor white people. Most of us don't riot.
Most men don't rape women either, yet I am assured rape is the fault of all men.
What a silly post. You're better than that 'Tubbs.
I'm not. Its been a long day.
In general I think the danger is that too many are ignoring the left behind of the country, AGAIN. Nothing makes racism right, nor rioting, but its essential to ask why things happen. Too many of my colleagues at Uni could not understand the Brexit vote because 'everyone I know voted remain'. Well yes, you know upper middle class academics.
There are many UK populations. Most are decent, kind folk. Some are not. Some are bitter, twisted, racist thugs. But a lot of people do feel left behind and feel that the country has let in too many immigrants. Thats not my opinion, but if you don't understand that viewpoint (while disagreeing) you will never understand the reasons.
My admonishment was for your "rape" comment.
I am well aware of the "left behind". They have been left behind for generations by the Labour party in Northern, Midlands, Scottish and Welsh s***holes. Hence they voted, SNP, Leave and "lent"their vote to Johnson in 2019, who also left them behind. They lent their vote to Farage in 2024 and probably 2029. He will let them down too.
When the politicians let them down the politicians look for scapegoats. The EU, foreigners, scroungers, illegal immigrants. Scoundrel like Farage buy the easy win, so we are where we are.
You say they are let down - but what exactly do they want and is it achievable?
The problem is that a lot of people want the impossible and don't understand that that is not achievable...
I go back to public funds being corruptly milked by late Labour Councillors like T. Dan Smith instead of funding civic society. Teesport smells similar, and in national government we had the PPE affair.
Teesport is a private company. Teesworks is the issue.
However both Teesworks and PPE are Tory corruption scandals - and neither have anything to do with the things the "left behind" want..
So good attempt to change your narrative but I'll repeat my previous questions
You say they (the "left behind") are let down - but what exactly do they want and is it achievable?
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
The block chain is designed to track transactions. That's the basic point of it. Bitcoin implements it in a way that makes some suspect that Bitcoin was a fishing expedition by the NSA. In the style of the BCCI.
Hence the tiresome sludge of BitcoinKilling "coins" that the scammers shove out.
VPNs are designed to obscure transactions and connections. Which they do moderately to extremely well, depending on the implementation and vendor.
And the capability of the user to actually configure and use it correctly.
Part of the problem for the authorities is that, increasingly, the configuration isn't reliant on the user.
So depending on the bored soldier to set his girlfriend's initials on the Enigma i no longer a thing. Or the Herivel tip*
Instead a chav opens WhatsApp and starts to type. With his thumbs....
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
I don't have any problem believing it. @Leon loves winners, whether they are despots, crooks like Trump or psychopaths like Putin. In contrast he despise losers and Sunak was a loser. He finds losing a moral flaw, evidence of weakness. Starmer was obviously going to be the winner. Who cares what he actually stands for?
lol. There is a absolutely something in that (tho your slurs about Trump and Putin are unfair, I revile both)
But, yes, one of the less important reasons I voted for Starmer was the psychological feeling that, for the one and surely only time in my life, I would be voting for the winner, THE winner. The actual prime minister. Kir Royale Starmer
Turns out he’s rubbish but hey
Leon - you forgot to log out of your new sockpuppet account
What people need to also get a grip on themselves and remember is social media like every other technology is a two edged sword. It can be used for good and bad. Everyone is concentrating on the bad stuff. Rarely see people comment on the good stuff like safe space support groups for LGBTQ teens, eating disorders, community groups which admitted can be at times bad but mostly aren't.
Now I have no particular duck in this hun as the only thing I do online that is like social media is here. I don't do Twitter or Facebook or Instagram or TikTok etc...I am commenting merely from a point of view that these attempts are going to fail. The Forbes report I linked pointed out that 42% of people already in the UK use a vpn in one form or the other.
VPN's are too useful for businesses so can't be banned. Even China haven't been able to stamp hard enough to crush them
The other problem is chat systems like WhatsApp & Signal.
The advent of default, end-to-end encryption, means that the people running the service have no way to access the conversations. Serve a warrant, and all they can do is give your encrypted data.
So you'd end up like Turnbull in Australia, trying to outlaw maths. Because he was demanding a back door into all encryption. Any such backdoor has been proven, mathematically, to break the security system fundamentally. So goodbye doing anything online, securely.
All western countries are wanting to ban end to end encryption. Basically the powers to be don't like the fact that people can talk without them being able to eavesdrop. I would be interested in seeing a study of how much end to end encrypted stuff is actually used for illegal purposes. My suspicion is its probably a lot lower than 0.5% and most its about what aunt gladys said to our Reen at your wedding , cat pics and other memes
I don't know. PGP has pretty much died a death, because people using it are either doing nefarious things or paranoid (*) . The number of paranoid people willing to jump through the extra hoops (even downloading a VPN client...) are low. Therefore leaving the criminal or criminal paranoids (**)
(*) Sorry, PGP folks! (**) Being criminal and paranoid is perhaps a wise position.
PGP died a death because it was hard to use when compared to current end to end encryption, it is also fairly old technique wise compared to more modern algorithms. People didn't abandon pgp because they no longer wanted encryption they abandoned it because they had more convenient ways to achieve it.
The 42% of the uk who now use a vpn belies your assertion people won't bother even 5 years ago that number would be about half
Also consider the figures for stoopid passwords that are not gained from a survey.
Also: daily use of a VPN might include work, not personal.
Not bullshit because look at the figure for never use its 35.39% . Give them an incentive and never heard of this 16.63% add them together and include the prefer not to say of 7.91% you get a total that equates to people who use vpns in the uk of 40.07%. We can assume some of the not prefer to say includes some who do use a vpn.
My claim wasn't that 42% use it daily. Now give them an incentive to use it more such as their favourite social media goes black without using a vpn then expect those figures for regularity to rapidly change. Your link proved my point exactly vpn usage is not alien to around 42% of the country just currently a lot don't need to use it all the time
Nah, it was bullshit. See the caveats you had to place to get your 'figure'.
Also, you ignore my point about stoopid passwords. Figures that are often gained not from surveys, but from hacked passwords lists. The idea that people use a VPN, yet use stoopid passwords, is odd.
Incidentally, I heard on the radio earlier that the skateboarding has the youngest competitor at 11, and one of the oldest at 51...
51....how are their kness still in shape to do elite level stakeboarding !!!! Even scoops of bamong soda won't help with that.
Bronze at 16 having dislocated her shoulder 2 weeks ago...
And I believe she fell on that shoulder during an earlier round.
I feel like a God doing a triathlon in double the time a professional would. Well, a God of myself...
I did my first my ever 10K race at the weekend, at 57. Came in 119th out of 260. Managed it in 59:40. The winner came in in under 35 minutes, the top woman a few seconds later. They were warmed down, lounging about drinking coffee and having a donut when I croffled over the line. The world record is about 26 minutes!
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
The block chain is designed to track transactions. That's the basic point of it. Bitcoin implements it in a way that makes some suspect that Bitcoin was a fishing expedition by the NSA. In the style of the BCCI.
Hence the tiresome sludge of BitcoinKilling "coins" that the scammers shove out.
VPNs are designed to obscure transactions and connections. Which they do moderately to extremely well, depending on the implementation and vendor.
And the capability of the user to actually configure and use it correctly.
Part of the problem for the authorities is that, increasingly, the configuration isn't reliant on the user.
So depending on the bored soldier to set his girlfriend's initials on the Enigma i no longer a thing. Or the Herivel tip*
Instead a chav opens WhatsApp and starts to type. With his thumbs....
*John Herivel tried to teach me chess.
Yep but even if I look at GhostVPN which is an App you just download and pick a location to VPN into would be beyond many people's level of expertise.
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
That wasn't particularly unknown in the tech community and was often pointed out. VPN's however can offer anonymity if you are careful in choosing the right solution for you
I did a prosecution where the baddies had turned up at this guy's house and threatened him into transferring his bitcoin. I must say I was genuinely surprised how easy it was for the experts to trace the various transactions that followed. The pieces of blockchain which form the bitcoin are not that different from DNA and can be traced in a similar way once the person recording the transactions has been summoned.
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
I don't have any problem believing it. @Leon loves winners, whether they are despots, crooks like Trump or psychopaths like Putin. In contrast he despise losers and Sunak was a loser. He finds losing a moral flaw, evidence of weakness. Starmer was obviously going to be the winner. Who cares what he actually stands for?
lol. There is a absolutely something in that (tho your slurs about Trump and Putin are unfair, I revile both)
But, yes, one of the less important reasons I voted for Starmer was the psychological feeling that, for the one and surely only time in my life, I would be voting for the winner, THE winner. The actual prime minister. Kir Royale Starmer
Turns out he’s rubbish but hey
Leon - you forgot to log out of your new sockpuppet account
Walz has two great advantages as a politician: He is not a lawyer -- and he is a winning football coach. (Most Americans dislike lawyers -- and love winning coaches, especially football coaches.) "After returning, Walz took a job teaching and coaching in Alliance, Nebraska, where he met his wife, Gwen Whipple, a fellow teacher.[11] He and Gwen married in 1994, and moved two years later to Mankato in Minnesota, his wife's home state,[11] where he worked as a geography teacher and coach at Mankato West High School.[10] He coached the football team to its first state championship in 1999." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz
And, then there is this: "Walz was ranked the 7th-most bipartisan House member during the 114th Congress (and the most bipartisan member from Minnesota) in the Bipartisan Index created by The Lugar Center and the McCourt School of Public Policy, which ranks members of Congress by measuring how often their bills attract co-sponsors from the opposite party and how often they co-sponsor bills by members of the opposite party."
Good comment. Neither part of the "liberal elitist" tag is going to stick.
Early signs are that the Trump campaign is already flailing around, trying to find an effective attack.
I quite like the "first non-lawyer on a Democratic ticket since Jimmy Carter" line.
Average blood pressure in the posh bit of Sheffield increases a little.
It isn't a good idea for Dems to mention Jimmy Carter.
Those that can do, those that can't teach. And Walz was a geography teacher.
Edit - on the upside he didn't teach Politics so he may understand it.
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
That wasn't particularly unknown in the tech community and was often pointed out. VPN's however can offer anonymity if you are careful in choosing the right solution for you
The point is that the way VPNs are being sold, and the technical capabilities of them, may not be quite congruent.
Some VPN's really aren't worthy of the name its true, just like builders you hire some are great, some are cowboys.
A good vpn system is congruent, a bad vpn system is a false sense of security
We are aware of a potential protest being organised in Nottingham on Wednesday evening.
The location has no links to the business advertised on the internet.
Officers have visited the address and it is home to an elderly person with vulnerabilities.
We don’t know who is “organising” what, TBH
Is this just going to go on and on?? I kinda expected it to end by now. This is about day 7??
Starmer can't even bring it under control, despite his Bunker Rants.
That's how shit he is.
He accused musk (fairly, to my mind) of stoking tension what that mad “civil war” tweet, but then he says “we will have a standing army ready to crack down”
A standing army? How is that different to predicting civil war? Worse, he’s the prime minister, so it’s much more important and visible
I can see why pollsters say voters are not impressed
You are aware that the UK, like nearly all countries, has a standing army?
Plus the modern police force would have been seen by the libertarian slaveowners of the American Revolution as a standing army.
Where did this "standing police force" or whatever it is phrase come from?
I'm aware of the two-tier policing talking point that was pulled out of someone's (Lee Anderson's, perhaps?) butt, but I haven't sourced the other one.
Did the PM actually say that?
As opposed to the sitting down police force, AKA traffic police.
I'm looking for the actual detail behind eg the AP report
" British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Monday that a “standing army” of specialist police would be set up to deal with rioting and that the justice system would be ramped up to handle hundreds of arrests after violent disorder rocked cities across the nation over the past week."
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
I don't have any problem believing it. @Leon loves winners, whether they are despots, crooks like Trump or psychopaths like Putin. In contrast he despise losers and Sunak was a loser. He finds losing a moral flaw, evidence of weakness. Starmer was obviously going to be the winner. Who cares what he actually stands for?
lol. There is a absolutely something in that (tho your slurs about Trump and Putin are unfair, I revile both)
But, yes, one of the less important reasons I voted for Starmer was the psychological feeling that, for the one and surely only time in my life, I would be voting for the winner, THE winner. The actual prime minister. Kir Royale Starmer
Turns out he’s rubbish but hey
This is comedy gold.
@TSE@rcs1000 I think that @Babbage9 might, just might, be the artist formerly known as...take your pick. Can we have a ruling?
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
That wasn't particularly unknown in the tech community and was often pointed out. VPN's however can offer anonymity if you are careful in choosing the right solution for you
I did a prosecution where the baddies had turned up at this guy's house and threatened him into transferring his bitcoin. I must say I was genuinely surprised how easy it was for the experts to trace the various transactions that followed. The pieces of blockchain which form the bitcoin are not that different from DNA and can be traced in a similar way once the person recording the transactions has been summoned.
The whole point of bitcoin was you could trace the transactions from wallet to wallet
Thank God the Tories are not in charge for this. Can you imagine the carnage while they held back for fear of alienating the Reform voters they want to bring on board for an autumn election? We got very lucky last month getting them out just in time.
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
That wasn't particularly unknown in the tech community and was often pointed out. VPN's however can offer anonymity if you are careful in choosing the right solution for you
The point is that the way VPNs are being sold, and the technical capabilities of them, may not be quite congruent.
Some VPN's really aren't worthy of the name its true, just like builders you hire some are great, some are cowboys.
A good vpn system is congruent, a bad vpn system is a false sense of security
I’ve got a really good VPN which I use to hide sockpuppet accounts on discussion forums. It’s flawless. DM me at @LadyG and I’ll let you know
Guido is talking about Council tax switching to a proportional system of x %(0.5%) of the current value. I suspect it's going to happen because changing the bands is impossible as even he points out...
Incidentally, I heard on the radio earlier that the skateboarding has the youngest competitor at 11, and one of the oldest at 51...
51....how are their kness still in shape to do elite level stakeboarding !!!! Even scoops of bamong soda won't help with that.
Bronze at 16 having dislocated her shoulder 2 weeks ago...
And I believe she fell on that shoulder during an earlier round.
I feel like a God doing a triathlon in double the time a professional would. Well, a God of myself...
I did my first my ever 10K race at the weekend, at 57. Came in 119th out of 260. Managed it in 59:40. The winner came in in under 35 minutes, the top woman a few seconds later. They were warmed down, lounging about drinking coffee and having a donut when I croffled over the line. The world record is about 26 minutes!
Congrats. My best time isn't much faster - though I am training for a 52 or 53 min 10K, and always concentrated on longer distances. At Junior Parkrun I try to stay around until the end to give the last kid crossing an extra big cheer!
Incredible. 21% Reform voters support the riots. That’s right, supporting burning down hotels, racist assaults and throwing concrete slabs and bricks at the police. Explains why @Nigel_Farage @TiceRichard and @LeeAndersonMP_ has been so soft on the rioters
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
He asks a question on whether the crux of that meme is true. Namely, “repeatedly raped a 12 year old girl, 180 community hours, no prison time”.
From the bbc:
"Hamoud Al Soaimi, 21, for three counts of sexual assault and one assault by penetration, jailed for two years suspended for two years with 180 hours unpaid work".
But hey, let’s ban Twitter because he says mean things about Keir Starmer.
Incredible. 21% Reform voters support the riots. That’s right, supporting burning down hotels, racist assaults and throwing concrete slabs and bricks at the police. Explains why @Nigel_Farage @TiceRichard and @LeeAndersonMP_ has been so soft on the rioters
Which is why it is great news we have a Labour government. The Tories would run scared of alienating Reform voters and would roll out the red carpet. Thank God for SKS.
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
He asks a question on whether the crux of that meme is true. Namely, “repeatedly raped a 12 year old girl, 180 community hours, no prison time”.
From the bbc:
"Hamoud Al Soaimi, 21, for three counts of sexual assault and one assault by penetration, jailed for two years suspended for two years with 180 hours unpaid work".
But hey, let’s ban Twitter because he says mean things about Keir Starmer.
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
I've heard on here he's a genius though!
I have just read the X account he has linked to. It is appalling. Full of racism and in particular unfiltered antisemitism. No subtlety. Blatant. So what the hell is Musk doing?
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
I've heard on here he's a genius though!
I have just read the X account he has linked to. It is appalling. Full of racism and in particular unfiltered antisemitism. No subtlety. Blatant. So what the hell is Musk doing?
Right-wing White South African billionaire in "not a ray of sunshine" shocker?
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
So, what, now you don’t believe me? That I voted for this twat Starmer? What would I gain from lying to you about my vote?! What do I care what you think of my vote? You seriously over estimate your salience in my mind
Well your vote is at odds with your politics. So if it's true you voted Labour you either betrayed your politics or you disrespected the democratic process.
Oh good grief, could you get more pompous?
There was a serious reason for my vote, too. I want - or wanted - Starmer to have a big majority. The worst possible outcome for Britain was a feeble NOM Labour govt
I had hopes (maybe I still do) that Labour - eg - might reform the NHS. For that you need the confidence of many MPs
Ok. So there's a 'better you' which we don't have the pleasure of on here. One which isn't obsessed with race and nationhood and borders etc.
That's plausible and I'm going to plause it because it comforts me.
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
He asks a question on whether the crux of that meme is true. Namely, “repeatedly raped a 12 year old girl, 180 community hours, no prison time”.
From the bbc:
"Hamoud Al Soaimi, 21, for three counts of sexual assault and one assault by penetration, jailed for two years suspended for two years with 180 hours unpaid work".
But hey, let’s ban Twitter because he says mean things about Keir Starmer.
The 'crux' of it *may* be true. It will not be the whole story.
And the point is: you can find such stories in any country. By publicising it in this manner, he is trying to insinuate it is the norm.
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
I've heard on here he's a genius though!
I have just read the X account he has linked to. It is appalling. Full of racism and in particular unfiltered antisemitism. No subtlety. Blatant. So what the hell is Musk doing?
Just perhaps someone who posts racist and antisemitic memes might be you know a tad racist and antisemitic?
Walz has two great advantages as a politician: He is not a lawyer -- and he is a winning football coach. (Most Americans dislike lawyers -- and love winning coaches, especially football coaches.) "After returning, Walz took a job teaching and coaching in Alliance, Nebraska, where he met his wife, Gwen Whipple, a fellow teacher.[11] He and Gwen married in 1994, and moved two years later to Mankato in Minnesota, his wife's home state,[11] where he worked as a geography teacher and coach at Mankato West High School.[10] He coached the football team to its first state championship in 1999." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz
And, then there is this: "Walz was ranked the 7th-most bipartisan House member during the 114th Congress (and the most bipartisan member from Minnesota) in the Bipartisan Index created by The Lugar Center and the McCourt School of Public Policy, which ranks members of Congress by measuring how often their bills attract co-sponsors from the opposite party and how often they co-sponsor bills by members of the opposite party."
Good comment. Neither part of the "liberal elitist" tag is going to stick.
Early signs are that the Trump campaign is already flailing around, trying to find an effective attack.
I quite like the "first non-lawyer on a Democratic ticket since Jimmy Carter" line.
Average blood pressure in the posh bit of Sheffield increases a little.
It isn't a good idea for Dems to mention Jimmy Carter.
He's said he's determined to stay alive until he can vote for Kamala....
Incidentally, I heard on the radio earlier that the skateboarding has the youngest competitor at 11, and one of the oldest at 51...
51....how are their kness still in shape to do elite level stakeboarding !!!! Even scoops of bamong soda won't help with that.
Bronze at 16 having dislocated her shoulder 2 weeks ago...
And I believe she fell on that shoulder during an earlier round.
I feel like a God doing a triathlon in double the time a professional would. Well, a God of myself...
I did my first my ever 10K race at the weekend, at 57. Came in 119th out of 260. Managed it in 59:40. The winner came in in under 35 minutes, the top woman a few seconds later. They were warmed down, lounging about drinking coffee and having a donut when I croffled over the line. The world record is about 26 minutes!
Congrats. My best time isn't much faster - though I am training for a 52 or 53 min 10K, and always concentrated on longer distances. At Junior Parkrun I try to stay around until the end to give the last kid crossing an extra big cheer!
I hate running-time snobs.
I'm with you on that. I love seeing people who you know have had a tough time with weight, or general fitness having a go. We should celebrate and encourage anyone who has the guts to literally take the first step.
Guido is talking about Council tax switching to a proportional system of x %(0.5%) of the current value. I suspect it's going to happen because changing the bands is impossible as even he points out...
I'd say there may be some weasel words in that from Paul Staines. He's quoting a report from the CSJ, which was founded by Iain Duncan Smith, Tim Montgomerie, Mark Florman and Philippa Stroud.
Havnig said that, a switch to 0.5% of market value would be a huge improvement imo, which if it includes an abolition of Stamp Duty as proposed by its main proponents will be in the financial interests of a large majority.
The main thing I'd say for RR and KS is not to be panicked by a bit of rhetoric from the Right.
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
I don't have any problem believing it. @Leon loves winners, whether they are despots, crooks like Trump or psychopaths like Putin. In contrast he despise losers and Sunak was a loser. He finds losing a moral flaw, evidence of weakness. Starmer was obviously going to be the winner. Who cares what he actually stands for?
lol. There is a absolutely something in that (tho your slurs about Trump and Putin are unfair, I revile both)
But, yes, one of the less important reasons I voted for Starmer was the psychological feeling that, for the one and surely only time in my life, I would be voting for the winner, THE winner. The actual prime minister. Kir Royale Starmer
Turns out he’s rubbish but hey
This is comedy gold.
@TSE@rcs1000 I think that @Babbage9 might, just might, be the artist formerly known as...take your pick. Can we have a ruling?
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
I've heard on here he's a genius though!
I have just read the X account he has linked to. It is appalling. Full of racism and in particular unfiltered antisemitism. No subtlety. Blatant. So what the hell is Musk doing?
Showing us who he is. The real question is what we do in response.
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
I don't have any problem believing it. @Leon loves winners, whether they are despots, crooks like Trump or psychopaths like Putin. In contrast he despise losers and Sunak was a loser. He finds losing a moral flaw, evidence of weakness. Starmer was obviously going to be the winner. Who cares what he actually stands for?
lol. There is a absolutely something in that (tho your slurs about Trump and Putin are unfair, I revile both)
But, yes, one of the less important reasons I voted for Starmer was the psychological feeling that, for the one and surely only time in my life, I would be voting for the winner, THE winner. The actual prime minister. Kir Royale Starmer
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
He asks a question on whether the crux of that meme is true. Namely, “repeatedly raped a 12 year old girl, 180 community hours, no prison time”.
From the bbc:
"Hamoud Al Soaimi, 21, for three counts of sexual assault and one assault by penetration, jailed for two years suspended for two years with 180 hours unpaid work".
But hey, let’s ban Twitter because he says mean things about Keir Starmer.
But, come, Moonshine, you're a reasonable person, and you surely must know that he's not only doing that.
He's not only accusing Starmer of favouritism to minorities in policing, which no one's succeeded in posting any real evidence of, but seems to be actively willing on social collapse, breakdown and war, in our country, as also the leader of a vast overseas website. You would have to say that Governments all over the world would act in that situation.
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
So, what, now you don’t believe me? That I voted for this twat Starmer? What would I gain from lying to you about my vote?! What do I care what you think of my vote? You seriously over estimate your salience in my mind
Well your vote is at odds with your politics. So if it's true you voted Labour you either betrayed your politics or you disrespected the democratic process.
Oh good grief, could you get more pompous?
There was a serious reason for my vote, too. I want - or wanted - Starmer to have a big majority. The worst possible outcome for Britain was a feeble NOM Labour govt
I had hopes (maybe I still do) that Labour - eg - might reform the NHS. For that you need the confidence of many MPs
Ok. So there's a 'better you' which we don't have the pleasure of on here. One which isn't obsessed with race and nationhood and borders etc.
That's plausible and I'm going to plause it because it comforts me.
Do you really think the guy on here is my true persona?
Ask someone on PB that’s met me. there are a few. I come on here for debate and argument and to have my views vigorously challenged and to do the same to others. Some times I come on here just for company
Of course I am spikier on here than in real life. Do you think I rant at my friends and family about the EU or tax rates or illegal migration? But, isn’t this true of all of us? - we come on here to offload and to spar, to chat with an intensity that would be ugly or nerdy in actual human company
This is your lack of imagination showing. But it’s fine. I have just had 9 oysters in a brasserie and the world is sweet
For all those who think VPNs are a magic bullet that offers perfect obscurity:
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
That wasn't particularly unknown in the tech community and was often pointed out. VPN's however can offer anonymity if you are careful in choosing the right solution for you
I did a prosecution where the baddies had turned up at this guy's house and threatened him into transferring his bitcoin. I must say I was genuinely surprised how easy it was for the experts to trace the various transactions that followed. The pieces of blockchain which form the bitcoin are not that different from DNA and can be traced in a similar way once the person recording the transactions has been summoned.
Bitcoin was designed to track transactions. Once you link a wallet to a person the whole thing is transparent.
Hence having part of it called the “ledger”…
And hence why governments are looking at using blockchain in future version of real currency. So (online) at least, money will have a history of who owned it, going back to the Mint.
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
It is true, though and the 180h community service hours sentence was a disgrace.
The person was 15 at the time - that seriously impacts the sentencing options.
What is very annoying is that the sentencing has not been published (because no one requested it) so we can't see the reasons for the actual sentence...
Free Russian Army are advancing within Russia itself. Taking prisoners back over the border and reports that 1, perhaps 2 Ka-52 Russian attack helicopters have been downed.
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
So, what, now you don’t believe me? That I voted for this twat Starmer? What would I gain from lying to you about my vote?! What do I care what you think of my vote? You seriously over estimate your salience in my mind
Well your vote is at odds with your politics. So if it's true you voted Labour you either betrayed your politics or you disrespected the democratic process.
Oh good grief, could you get more pompous?
There was a serious reason for my vote, too. I want - or wanted - Starmer to have a big majority. The worst possible outcome for Britain was a feeble NOM Labour govt
I had hopes (maybe I still do) that Labour - eg - might reform the NHS. For that you need the confidence of many MPs
Ok. So there's a 'better you' which we don't have the pleasure of on here. One which isn't obsessed with race and nationhood and borders etc.
That's plausible and I'm going to plause it because it comforts me.
Do you really think the guy on here is my true persona?
Ask someone on PB that’s met me. there are a few. I come on here for debate and argument and to have my views vigorously challenged and to do the same to others. Some times I come on here just for company
Of course I am spikier on here than in real life. Do you think I rant at my friends and family about the EU or tax rates or illegal migration? But, isn’t this true of all of us? - we come on here to offload and to spar, to chat with an intensity that would be ugly or nerdy in actual human company
This is your lack of imagination showing. But it’s fine. I have just had 9 oysters in a brasserie and the world is sweet
Totally agree. When it gets boring is when you post something you think is a bit provocative and everyone says yes. Bah, boring. I want people to tell why I am wrong and give me new facts to prove it. That, along with the general good humour, is what makes this fun and worthwhile.
The best posters are those who are furthest out there, that challenge our assumptions and conceits and who have the facts, or at least some facts, to back it up. I want to think new thoughts. Its fun.
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
It is true, though and the 180h community service hours sentence was a disgrace.
The person was 15 at the time - that seriously impacts the sentencing options.
What is very annoying is that the sentencing has not been published (because no one requested it) so we can't see the reasons for the actual sentence...
Anyone over the age of 10 can be given a proper sentence. Raping a 12 year old girl and getting away with a 2 year suspended sentence and 180h community service sends a terrible message to other young men and boys all over the country. This is the sort of crime that deserves and exemplary sentence, not a slap on the wrist.
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
I've heard on here he's a genius though!
I have just read the X account he has linked to. It is appalling. Full of racism and in particular unfiltered antisemitism. No subtlety. Blatant. So what the hell is Musk doing?
Demonstrating why no sane advertiser would spend any money on Twitter / X.
Because today is the day X decided to sue advertisers for not advertising on their platform so it's the perfect day to demonstrate why anyone sane wouldn't want to spend money there.
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
So, what, now you don’t believe me? That I voted for this twat Starmer? What would I gain from lying to you about my vote?! What do I care what you think of my vote? You seriously over estimate your salience in my mind
Well your vote is at odds with your politics. So if it's true you voted Labour you either betrayed your politics or you disrespected the democratic process.
Oh good grief, could you get more pompous?
There was a serious reason for my vote, too. I want - or wanted - Starmer to have a big majority. The worst possible outcome for Britain was a feeble NOM Labour govt
I had hopes (maybe I still do) that Labour - eg - might reform the NHS. For that you need the confidence of many MPs
Ok. So there's a 'better you' which we don't have the pleasure of on here. One which isn't obsessed with race and nationhood and borders etc.
That's plausible and I'm going to plause it because it comforts me.
Do you really think the guy on here is my true persona?
Ask someone on PB that’s met me. there are a few. I come on here for debate and argument and to have my views vigorously challenged and to do the same to others. Some times I come on here just for company
Of course I am spikier on here than in real life. Do you think I rant at my friends and family about the EU or tax rates or illegal migration? But, isn’t this true of all of us? - we come on here to offload and to spar, to chat with an intensity that would be ugly or nerdy in actual human company
This is your lack of imagination showing. But it’s fine. I have just had 9 oysters in a brasserie and the world is sweet
It must have been a G cup….. Oh, you said brasserie!
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
So, what, now you don’t believe me? That I voted for this twat Starmer? What would I gain from lying to you about my vote?! What do I care what you think of my vote? You seriously over estimate your salience in my mind
Well your vote is at odds with your politics. So if it's true you voted Labour you either betrayed your politics or you disrespected the democratic process.
Oh good grief, could you get more pompous?
There was a serious reason for my vote, too. I want - or wanted - Starmer to have a big majority. The worst possible outcome for Britain was a feeble NOM Labour govt
I had hopes (maybe I still do) that Labour - eg - might reform the NHS. For that you need the confidence of many MPs
In the event Starmer's vote went down by more than 10,000 in Holborn & St Pancras.
Yes but the next general election is four or five years away. Things that ought to matter, often don't.
Indeed
However isn’t it a political truism that perceptions are crucially formed in the first 100 days of office? And after that they become hard to shift
Starmer has been given a seriously tough test on his second month of office. I don’t envy him. However he came in with baggage that is entirely his own fault - taking the knee AFTER the BLM riots
The British public believe he is making a hash of this major crisis. Pompous but ineffective, hypocritical and bloviating?
He may find this perception hangs around
That said there are exceptions to the rule. Thatcher was massively unpopular at first but became more popular over time
Yes, for me the problem isn't so much the pomposity - hard to disapprove of rioters without sounding pompous - or the ineffectuality - a common failing in the face of rioting - but that he seemed so equivocal about rioting until it was poor white people doing it.
These aren't poor white people. They're violent racists.
These things, sadly, are not mutually exclusive
Sure. But the poorness and whiteness isn't what's causing the problem. It's the racially aggravated violence. You'll see this when cases get to court. Nobody is going to be charged with being poor and white.
There is a clear link between the Brexit vote, the Reform vote in 2024 and these riots. Yes the riots are being inflated by bad actors on socials, but those being whipped up are the same ones who thought Brexit would fix their ills (it didn't), that Reform would fix their ills (it won't) and that immigration and immigrants are part of the problem (possibly a small part is true - if you move a million more people into a country, housing becomes scarcer and services harder to access). But rioting won't fix that.*
*Except it might fix YOUR housing for a while, at His Majesties Pleasure...
There's usually a socioeconomic context to public disorder and this is no exception. But I'm talking about the people leading and avidly participating in racially targeted violence. Attacks on Mosques, Asylum Seekers etc. These people have no legitimate cause or context for their actions. It awards them an unmerited gravitas to suggest otherwise.
Yes. I find it utterly astonishing that folk can equate seeking to burn down hotels, knowing that there are residents and staff in them, with any other form of protest that I've witnessed over the last 50 years.
It's attempted mass murder, and for all the wrongdoing witnessed on other 'protests' I've never seen anything as wicked.
I was at the BLM riots in Trafalgar Sq in 2020 and I saw multiple beatings of white people which, if the coppers hadn’t leapt in and saved the victim, would have likely turned into murder
That’s what I saw. I was there
Two days later, Starmer took the knee
Yet you still claim to have voted for Starmer last month, and not, say, for RefUK...
Do you know I don't altogether believe you.
Doesn't quite scan, does it.
So, what, now you don’t believe me? That I voted for this twat Starmer? What would I gain from lying to you about my vote?! What do I care what you think of my vote? You seriously over estimate your salience in my mind
Well your vote is at odds with your politics. So if it's true you voted Labour you either betrayed your politics or you disrespected the democratic process.
Oh good grief, could you get more pompous?
There was a serious reason for my vote, too. I want - or wanted - Starmer to have a big majority. The worst possible outcome for Britain was a feeble NOM Labour govt
I had hopes (maybe I still do) that Labour - eg - might reform the NHS. For that you need the confidence of many MPs
Ok. So there's a 'better you' which we don't have the pleasure of on here. One which isn't obsessed with race and nationhood and borders etc.
That's plausible and I'm going to plause it because it comforts me.
Do you really think the guy on here is my true persona?
Ask someone on PB that’s met me. there are a few. I come on here for debate and argument and to have my views vigorously challenged and to do the same to others. Some times I come on here just for company
Of course I am spikier on here than in real life. Do you think I rant at my friends and family about the EU or tax rates or illegal migration? But, isn’t this true of all of us? - we come on here to offload and to spar, to chat with an intensity that would be ugly or nerdy in actual human company
This is your lack of imagination showing. But it’s fine. I have just had 9 oysters in a brasserie and the world is sweet
This is a final warning @Leon. Any more of this reasonableness, and I will be forced to wave the ban hammer.
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
It is true, though and the 180h community service hours sentence was a disgrace.
The person was 15 at the time - that seriously impacts the sentencing options.
What is very annoying is that the sentencing has not been published (because no one requested it) so we can't see the reasons for the actual sentence...
What’s dangerous is the fact culture war has become globalised, and we have a foreign social media platform owner directly interfering in British politics.
The next James Bond movie is 100% going to feature a Musk-alike Bond villain.
Walz has two great advantages as a politician: He is not a lawyer -- and he is a winning football coach. (Most Americans dislike lawyers -- and love winning coaches, especially football coaches.) "After returning, Walz took a job teaching and coaching in Alliance, Nebraska, where he met his wife, Gwen Whipple, a fellow teacher.[11] He and Gwen married in 1994, and moved two years later to Mankato in Minnesota, his wife's home state,[11] where he worked as a geography teacher and coach at Mankato West High School.[10] He coached the football team to its first state championship in 1999." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz
And, then there is this: "Walz was ranked the 7th-most bipartisan House member during the 114th Congress (and the most bipartisan member from Minnesota) in the Bipartisan Index created by The Lugar Center and the McCourt School of Public Policy, which ranks members of Congress by measuring how often their bills attract co-sponsors from the opposite party and how often they co-sponsor bills by members of the opposite party."
Good comment. Neither part of the "liberal elitist" tag is going to stick.
Early signs are that the Trump campaign is already flailing around, trying to find an effective attack.
I quite like the "first non-lawyer on a Democratic ticket since Jimmy Carter" line.
Average blood pressure in the posh bit of Sheffield increases a little.
It isn't a good idea for Dems to mention Jimmy Carter.
It isn't correct anyway, Dukakis went to law school but was a political science academic not a lawyer. Gore was a journalist who went to law school but didn't even graduate
Guido is talking about Council tax switching to a proportional system of x %(0.5%) of the current value. I suspect it's going to happen because changing the bands is impossible as even he points out...
I'd say there may be some weasel words in that from Paul Staines. He's quoting a report from the CSJ, which was founded by Iain Duncan Smith, Tim Montgomerie, Mark Florman and Philippa Stroud.
Having said that, a switch to 0.5% of market value would be a huge improvement imo, which if it includes an abolition of Stamp Duty as proposed by its main proponents will be in the financial interests of a large majority.
The main thing I'd say for RR and KS is not to be panicked by a bit of rhetoric from the Right.
I'd be quite interested to know where the CSJ-four stand on 2024 Trump (as opposed to their perhaps optimistic impressions of Trump in 2016 or so).
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
It is true, though and the 180h community service hours sentence was a disgrace.
The person was 15 at the time - that seriously impacts the sentencing options.
What is very annoying is that the sentencing has not been published (because no one requested it) so we can't see the reasons for the actual sentence...
What’s dangerous is the fact culture war has become globalised, and we have a foreign social media platform owner directly interfering in British politics.
The next James Bond movie is 100% going to feature a Musk-alike Bond villain.
I don't think pointing out facts/sentencing is interfering. Sadly a lot of this stuff has happened, the Rotherham scandal happened and this is what is driving a lot of the anger towards migrants and in particular Muslims.
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
It is true, though and the 180h community service hours sentence was a disgrace.
The person was 15 at the time - that seriously impacts the sentencing options.
What is very annoying is that the sentencing has not been published (because no one requested it) so we can't see the reasons for the actual sentence...
Anyone over the age of 10 can be given a proper sentence. Raping a 12 year old girl and getting away with a 2 year suspended sentence and 180h community service sends a terrible message to other young men and boys all over the country. This is the sort of crime that deserves and exemplary sentence, not a slap on the wrist.
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Which has been a thing in dealing with widespread disorder, since before the General Strike.
Nothing much has changed, since CNN got caught with Tailwind.
But, yes, one of the less important reasons I voted for Starmer was the psychological feeling that, for the one and surely only time in my life, I would be voting for the winner, THE winner. The actual prime minister. Kir Royale Starmer
Turns out he’s rubbish but hey
The important thing - and I'm so pleased and relieved about this - is that now the Biden Harris switch has happened he's with you and me and all the good people of this world in rooting for Donald Trump to get his ass handed to him on November 5th.
(which is happening btw, it's happening)
That doesn't mean that there aren't concrete social reasons why the post-industrial towns that Farage persuaded to blame immigrants for the ills of post-Thatcherisn are more disproportionally coming to the fore more than, say, London, which has had much more actual experience of recent.immigration. But, in their very great majority so far, these aren't people seeking a "debate:", but simply wanting to target any or all minorities. The government has no choice but to crack down very hard, in that situation, and think about underlying causes and background later on.
Remember how Bitcoin / blockchains were supposed to offer anonymity for transactions?
"Far from being untraceable, they wrote, the blockchain was an open book that could identify vast swaths of transactions between people, many of whom thought they were acting anonymously."
https://www.wired.com/story/27-year-old-codebreaker-busted-myth-bitcoins-anonymity/
The weakness with VPN is you machine is comprised, the VPN service isn't doing what they claim / is comprised and even easier you social engineer people to trust an outsider (which is how most criminals are caught).
Encrochat secure messaging was hacked by security people, but after that they went one better and simply sold phones to criminals directly that were comprised.
Its biases are shown in how it selects what to report, at what length and frequency, and it what it misses out.
Its examples of the malign effects of benefits cuts/the system generally are taken from the lives of worthy characters in tough situations; it never looks carefully at cases of unworthy benefits junkies with old sofas in their front garden with a side hustle in drug dealing.
Such stories often are incomplete. A regular feature of them is covering with proper sympathy a mother with three small children, without any reference at all to the fathers of the children. A recent one was about the travails of such a family where the mother was earning £48,000 pa.
It constantly reports on how government could and should spend more but never on how government could and should spend less, and takes no interest in those who think that government should be less interventionist rather than more.
In the end the BBC can look untrustworthy for reasons other than actual factual accuracy.
Hence the tiresome sludge of BitcoinKilling "coins" that the scammers shove out.
VPNs are designed to obscure transactions and connections. Which they do moderately to extremely well, depending on the implementation and vendor.
There was a serious reason for my vote, too. I want - or wanted - Starmer to have a big majority. The worst possible outcome for Britain was a feeble NOM Labour govt
I had hopes (maybe I still do) that Labour - eg - might reform the NHS. For that you need the confidence of many MPs
https://order-order.com/2024/08/06/labour-sitting-on-council-tax-reform-bombshell/
Yes, his favourables have fallen very slightly among Labour and LD but compared to Liz Truss, whose approval number was -33% within a month of taking office, Starmer is doing pretty well.
So named, by the colleagues, because they never, ever, go out.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1820796779782090960
The guy is dangerous. How could anyone still support him?
However both Teesworks and PPE are Tory corruption scandals - and neither have anything to do with the things the "left behind" want..
So good attempt to change your narrative but I'll repeat my previous questions
You say they (the "left behind") are let down - but what exactly do they want and is it achievable?
So depending on the bored soldier to set his girlfriend's initials on the Enigma i no longer a thing. Or the Herivel tip*
Instead a chav opens WhatsApp and starts to type. With his thumbs....
*John Herivel tried to teach me chess.
Step 1: Choose a memorable password.
Four weeks later...
Step 2: Your password is about to expire, please change it.
Change password, go home for weekend.
Step 3: Invalid password.
Reminds me of the Wagner group being contracted out to the Russian Govt.
@TheScreamingEagles
https://x.com/AJamesMcCarthy/status/1820824863504031770
Edit - on the upside he didn't teach Politics so he may understand it.
A good vpn system is congruent, a bad vpn system is a false sense of security
" British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Monday that a “standing army” of specialist police would be set up to deal with rioting and that the justice system would be ramped up to handle hundreds of arrests after violent disorder rocked cities across the nation over the past week."
https://apnews.com/article/britain-riots-asylum-seekers-violence-a391b4513c41fe4de3806b28ee0c1740
Specialist police are a thing eg firearms authorised police, as are riot-trained police. Is this referring to more than that?
@TSE @rcs1000 I think that @Babbage9 might, just might, be the artist formerly known as...take your pick. Can we have a ruling?
I hate running-time snobs.
Nick Lowles
@lowles_nick
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Incredible. 21% Reform voters support the riots. That’s right, supporting burning down hotels, racist assaults and throwing concrete slabs and bricks at the police. Explains why
@Nigel_Farage
@TiceRichard
and
@LeeAndersonMP_
has been so soft on the rioters
https://x.com/lowles_nick/status/1820857700571328924
From the bbc:
"Hamoud Al Soaimi, 21, for three counts of sexual assault and one assault by penetration, jailed for two years suspended for two years with 180 hours unpaid work".
But hey, let’s ban Twitter because he says mean things about Keir Starmer.
That's plausible and I'm going to plause it because it comforts me.
And the point is: you can find such stories in any country. By publicising it in this manner, he is trying to insinuate it is the norm.
Havnig said that, a switch to 0.5% of market value would be a huge improvement imo, which if it includes an abolition of Stamp Duty as proposed by its main proponents will be in the financial interests of a large majority.
The main thing I'd say for RR and KS is not to be panicked by a bit of rhetoric from the Right.
Like Oasis with the Beatles as it were?
He's not only accusing Starmer of favouritism to minorities in policing, which no one's succeeded in posting any real evidence of, but seems to be actively willing on social collapse, breakdown and war, in our country, as also the leader of a vast overseas website. You would have to say that Governments all over the world would act in that situation.
Ask someone on PB that’s met me. there are a few. I come on here for debate and argument and to have my views vigorously challenged and to do the same to others. Some times I come on here just for company
Of course I am spikier on here than in real life. Do you think I rant at my friends and family about the EU or tax rates or illegal migration? But, isn’t this true of all of us? - we come on here to offload and to spar, to chat with an intensity that would be ugly or nerdy in actual human company
This is your lack of imagination showing. But it’s fine. I have just had 9 oysters in a brasserie and the world is sweet
Hence having part of it called the “ledger”…
And hence why governments are looking at using blockchain in future version of real currency. So (online) at least, money will have a history of who owned it, going back to the Mint.
What is very annoying is that the sentencing has not been published (because no one requested it) so we can't see the reasons for the actual sentence...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2I8f-400Fk
The best posters are those who are furthest out there, that challenge our assumptions and conceits and who have the facts, or at least some facts, to back it up. I want to think new thoughts. Its fun.
Because today is the day X decided to sue advertisers for not advertising on their platform so it's the perfect day to demonstrate why anyone sane wouldn't want to spend money there.
The next James Bond movie is 100% going to feature a Musk-alike Bond villain.