A conversation about Frederick Rutland, who was the first RAF combat pilot at sea at the Battle of Jutland. With what I think is new material about his later career as a Japanese spy. Interesting stuff about early seaplane carriers (ie put planes in the sea with a crane, before they had catapults or flight decks).
Alex Wickham @alexwickham · 1h — Starmer had good convos with Biden, Macron and Scholz in his first two weeks, but allies say his chief objective as PM is to avoid their fate at the hands of the populist right
— Trump’s comeback seen as proof he isn’t guaranteed a second term
Alex Wickham @alexwickham · 1h — some Starmer allies insist holding off Farage/Reform and the Tories has to be the key aim
Delicate balancing act. Need to stop Reform making further gains of ground, but keep them in the game as at present they are hurting Tory more than Labour.
I'm trying to think of the disastrous cases that have been made public of children being taken into care by mistake?
Isn't it far more common that the social services don't act? I find Mister Bedfordshire's take on this rather odd.
As for it being all ethnicities involved, well yeah. Doesn't tell us a huge amount on its own.
The problem with social care is that the general publc only see 2 types cases:
1) parents complaining that their children have been taken into care. And those parents are hardly likely to say, yes we weren't good parents 2) the cases where social services didn't intervene early enough resulting in deaths/ injuries/ neglect serious enough to make at least the local news.
In both cases Social services end up being the bad guys...
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
Has anyone explained the concept of a riot to you?
Presumably you think all these people are from the Roma community:
I'm trying to think of the disastrous cases that have been made public of children being taken into care by mistake?
Isn't it far more common that the social services don't act? I find Mister Bedfordshire's take on this rather odd.
As for it being all ethnicities involved, well yeah. Doesn't tell us a huge amount on its own.
The problem with social care is that the general publc only see 2 types cases:
1) parents complaining that their children have been taken into care. And those parents are hardly likely to say, yes we weren't good parents 2) the cases where social services didn't intervene early enough resulting in deaths/ injuries/ neglect serious enough to make at least the local news.
In both cases Social services end up being the bad guys...
In the Winston Smith blog, a social care worker detailed a lot of this. Including the phenomenon of families with problem children, who’d dump them on social care, to get a break.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Alex Wickham @alexwickham · 1h — Starmer had good convos with Biden, Macron and Scholz in his first two weeks, but allies say his chief objective as PM is to avoid their fate at the hands of the populist right
— Trump’s comeback seen as proof he isn’t guaranteed a second term
Alex Wickham @alexwickham · 1h — some Starmer allies insist holding off Farage/Reform and the Tories has to be the key aim
Delicate balancing act. Need to stop Reform making further gains of ground, but keep them in the game as at present they are hurting Tory more than Labour.
Reform didn't hurt us. They handed us a landslide, gift wrapped and tied with a big ribbon.
Good morning PBers. Should be an interesting day at Trent Bridge.
I spent most of yesterday listening to the commentary. Not a particularly remarkable day's play, but a thoroughly entertaining day's commentary. Amongst otger things I learned quite a bit about West Indies 20th century history. I had no idea that captains of the West Indies were always white until Frank Worral (nor indeed that so many other jobs were traditionally held by white people until the 1950s - the white population of the West Indies must have been substantial.)
Also good to see some West Indian batsmen batting like test cricketers. The WI team is part of the iconography of cricket and it makes me sad to see them fail too often.
That surely has much to do with the countries in the West Indies still being in the British Empire until at least the 1960s, and many not gaining independence until the 1970s-1980s?
Oh, indeed. But it never really struck me that the white population would be anything above insignificant. FWIW, cf the England cricket team - which was always captained by an amateur - i.e. someone posh - up until the 1950s. And indeed English society at large, where anyone with some degree of authority would be from a public school background.
Mr. Eagles, your eagerness to throw away cash is matched only by your poor judgement regarding Hannibal and Caesar.
Cash is exclusively used by criminals, druggies, and hookers.
Plus, cash carries germs, why do you think the real move to contactless and things like Apple pay accelerated during the pandemic.
I am neither a criminal, a druggie, nor a hooker. Whether singly or in combination. I am too hesitant to be a proper criminal, too repelled by drugs to be a druggie, and would not be able to raise enough money to be a full-time hooker. I apologise for my lack. 😔
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
Of course.
And in social services, you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. (How were the signs missed???)
Far less consequence (rarely any) if you confiscate the kids and it turns out you did so wrongly than if you don't do anything wrongly in which case a media and state agency circus follows.
Thats how bureaucracies and their precautionary principle works. Better to send them to a camp in Siberia for 20 years than risk them being dangerous traitors now that the KGB has found that there is a risk that they might be traitors after tapping their phone.
How many kids are taken into protection each week in the UK?
What processes are there?
Is a judge involved?
What appeal opportunities are there for parents?
I ask all these questions, because "a story" is usually a dangerously limited set of information to work off.
There are about 100k children in care in the UK, but that number doesn’t say how long they’ve been in care or whether they were taken into protection vs voluntarily put in care.
Edit: when I was a Children’s Panel member, there was normally legal representation for the family. There are a number of specialist family lawyers, who we saw at hearings regularly. There were also translators called in if necessary.
Good morning PBers. Should be an interesting day at Trent Bridge.
I spent most of yesterday listening to the commentary. Not a particularly remarkable day's play, but a thoroughly entertaining day's commentary. Amongst otger things I learned quite a bit about West Indies 20th century history. I had no idea that captains of the West Indies were always white until Frank Worral (nor indeed that so many other jobs were traditionally held by white people until the 1950s - the white population of the West Indies must have been substantial.)
Also good to see some West Indian batsmen batting like test cricketers. The WI team is part of the iconography of cricket and it makes me sad to see them fail too often.
That surely has much to do with the countries in the West Indies still being in the British Empire until at least the 1960s, and many not gaining independence until the 1970s-1980s?
Oh, indeed. But it never really struck me that the white population would be anything above insignificant. FWIW, cf the England cricket team - which was always captained by an amateur - i.e. someone posh - up until the 1950s. And indeed English society at large, where anyone with some degree of authority would be from a public school background.
The White population of the West Indies is not what you think it is. The vast majority are "redlegs" the descendents of those transported there into slavery en masse by Cromwell et al from Ireland.
They were treated as the lowest of the low, even lower in status than black people later brought in as slaves.
Not for nothing are there some parts of southern Ireland (as in the south of the Island) where the local accent sounds virtually West Indian.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
Farage's 'blame Muslims' response is perhaps another indication of his instinctive MAGA pandering.
Muslims being a big issue among MAGA whereas East European Roma being more important to many Reform voters.
Hurrah, somebody spotted my subtle musical reference.
You could have set out your expectations for the future of the common currency. Your Euro vision.
I am of the view when we rejoin the EU one of the main reasons is that Brits will want to join the Euro.
In the past when cash was king people saw the pound in their pocket and didn't want to lose that, now that we are heading to rightly becoming a cashless society then support for the joining the Euro will surge.
In your banking app whether it shows 2,000 pounds in your account or 2,000 Euros will make no difference.
It's just a number in your phone now. 90+% people aren't going to give a fuck and the weirdos who do, the types who have their trousers held up with an improvised belt of electrical cable and keep a spreadsheet of mixed ethnicity couples in TV adverts, will just have to lump it.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
Farage's 'blame Muslims' response is perhaps another indication of his instinctive MAGA pandering.
Muslims being a big issue among MAGA whereas East European Roma being more important to many Reform voters.
I don't think REFORM voters mind a little bit of Islamaphobia. Nigel will jump in any bandwagon to get him in the spotlight. He doesn't care about the truth much.
Hurrah, somebody spotted my subtle musical reference.
You could have set out your expectations for the future of the common currency. Your Euro vision.
I am of the view when we rejoin the EU one of the main reasons is that Brits will want to join the Euro.
In the past when cash was king people saw the pound in their pocket and didn't want to lose that, now that we are heading to rightly becoming a cashless society then support for the joining the Euro will surge.
In your banking app whether it shows 2,000 pounds in your account or 2,000 Euros will make no difference.
It's just a number in your phone now. 90+% people aren't going to give a fuck and the weirdos who do, the types who have their trousers held up with an improvised belt of electrical cable and keep a spreadsheet of mixed ethnicity couples in TV adverts, will just have to lump it.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
The big problem for the Dems is Biden is polling lower than many downballot Senate and House races .
Historically the downballot races become more coupled to the Presidential ones as you get closer to the election .
Ticket splitting is now much more rare because of the deep polarization amongst voters .
The Senate barring a miracle will be in GOP hands regardless of whether Biden stands down but it’s about mitigating losses at this election cycle ready for a more favourable map at the next mid terms .
The House is a different matter with the Dems having a better chance of regaining that but they’ll need to run up voters especially in NY which ironically cost them at the last mid terms .
They won’t be able to do this with Biden and his drag on the ticket .
In terms of state legislatures there are 44 up for election . This are often ignored in the UK media but these play a key role especially in terms of abortion and voting rights .
The real concern is that Biden suffers a big defeat , the GOP then with all branches of government and more legislatures than present inact more voter suppression and make it even more difficult for the Dems to recover .
Biden could well suffer another debate disaster in September leaving little room for any recovery as early voting begins a few weeks later .
Hurrah, somebody spotted my subtle musical reference.
You could have set out your expectations for the future of the common currency. Your Euro vision.
I am of the view when we rejoin the EU one of the main reasons is that Brits will want to join the Euro.
In the past when cash was king people saw the pound in their pocket and didn't want to lose that, now that we are heading to rightly becoming a cashless society then support for the joining the Euro will surge.
In your banking app whether it shows 2,000 pounds in your account or 2,000 Euros will make no difference.
It's just a number in your phone now. 90+% people aren't going to give a fuck and the weirdos who do, the types who have their trousers held up with an improvised belt of electrical cable and keep a spreadsheet of mixed ethnicity couples in TV adverts, will just have to lump it.
Until yesterday when the weirdo with a cable belt had a much easier time than the cashless.
There have been a few days recently come to think of it when my local Greggs has been cash (or Greggs app pay) only due to system failure on whatever processes debit/credit cards.
Hurrah, somebody spotted my subtle musical reference.
You could have set out your expectations for the future of the common currency. Your Euro vision.
I am of the view when we rejoin the EU one of the main reasons is that Brits will want to join the Euro.
In the past when cash was king people saw the pound in their pocket and didn't want to lose that, now that we are heading to rightly becoming a cashless society then support for the joining the Euro will surge.
In your banking app whether it shows 2,000 pounds in your account or 2,000 Euros will make no difference.
It's just a number in your phone now. 90+% people aren't going to give a fuck and the weirdos who do, the types who have their trousers held up with an improvised belt of electrical cable and keep a spreadsheet of mixed ethnicity couples in TV adverts, will just have to lump it.
Good morning PBers. Should be an interesting day at Trent Bridge.
I spent most of yesterday listening to the commentary. Not a particularly remarkable day's play, but a thoroughly entertaining day's commentary. Amongst otger things I learned quite a bit about West Indies 20th century history. I had no idea that captains of the West Indies were always white until Frank Worral (nor indeed that so many other jobs were traditionally held by white people until the 1950s - the white population of the West Indies must have been substantial.)
Also good to see some West Indian batsmen batting like test cricketers. The WI team is part of the iconography of cricket and it makes me sad to see them fail too often.
That surely has much to do with the countries in the West Indies still being in the British Empire until at least the 1960s, and many not gaining independence until the 1970s-1980s?
Oh, indeed. But it never really struck me that the white population would be anything above insignificant. FWIW, cf the England cricket team - which was always captained by an amateur - i.e. someone posh - up until the 1950s. And indeed English society at large, where anyone with some degree of authority would be from a public school background.
The White population of the West Indies is not what you think it is. The vast majority are "redlegs" the descendents of those transported there into slavery en masse by Cromwell et al from Ireland.
They were treated as the lowest of the low, even lower in status than black people later brought in as slaves.
Not for nothing are there some parts of southern Ireland (as in the south of the Island) where the local accent sounds virtually West Indian.
I've just had a nosy around the various pages linked to from "White Carribeans" on wikipedia. The history is varied and fascinating. I didn't know, for example, that Barbados was used as a penal colony prior to the plantation economy. But some of the Carribean had significant white populations at various points in history. Bahamas, for example.
Good morning PBers. Should be an interesting day at Trent Bridge.
I spent most of yesterday listening to the commentary. Not a particularly remarkable day's play, but a thoroughly entertaining day's commentary. Amongst otger things I learned quite a bit about West Indies 20th century history. I had no idea that captains of the West Indies were always white until Frank Worral (nor indeed that so many other jobs were traditionally held by white people until the 1950s - the white population of the West Indies must have been substantial.)
Also good to see some West Indian batsmen batting like test cricketers. The WI team is part of the iconography of cricket and it makes me sad to see them fail too often.
That surely has much to do with the countries in the West Indies still being in the British Empire until at least the 1960s, and many not gaining independence until the 1970s-1980s?
Oh, indeed. But it never really struck me that the white population would be anything above insignificant. FWIW, cf the England cricket team - which was always captained by an amateur - i.e. someone posh - up until the 1950s. And indeed English society at large, where anyone with some degree of authority would be from a public school background.
The White population of the West Indies is not what you think it is. The vast majority are "redlegs" the descendents of those transported there into slavery en masse by Cromwell et al from Ireland.
They were treated as the lowest of the low, even lower in status than black people later brought in as slaves.
Not for nothing are there some parts of southern Ireland (as in the south of the Island) where the local accent sounds virtually West Indian.
Didn't know about the Redlegs. But fits a pattern around the 1660s when race starts to be a 'thing'.
When Irish indentured slaves started to work with black slaves in the West Indies to overthrow their colonial masters, the British came up with a devilishly brilliant and effective plan of inventing the concept of race (the progenitor of eugenics) to convince the Irish they were superior to black people and should side with the British (gross oversimplification)
There's a great chat between Blind Boy and Emma Dabiri that's a great primer if anyone's interested: https://youtu.be/hGPRb1HAeqU
(Having just returned from a roadtrip around Ireland that took in Dingle, Kerry, Cork and Limerick and ended at the Post Office in Dublin I'm fascinated by this history at the moment)
Hurrah, somebody spotted my subtle musical reference.
You could have set out your expectations for the future of the common currency. Your Euro vision.
I am of the view when we rejoin the EU one of the main reasons is that Brits will want to join the Euro.
In the past when cash was king people saw the pound in their pocket and didn't want to lose that, now that we are heading to rightly becoming a cashless society then support for the joining the Euro will surge.
In your banking app whether it shows 2,000 pounds in your account or 2,000 Euros will make no difference.
It's just a number in your phone now. 90+% people aren't going to give a fuck and the weirdos who do, the types who have their trousers held up with an improvised belt of electrical cable and keep a spreadsheet of mixed ethnicity couples in TV adverts, will just have to lump it.
Until yesterday when the weirdo with a cable belt had a much easier time than the cashless.
There have been a few days recently come to think of it when my local Greggs has been cash (or Greggs app pay) only due to system failure on whatever processes debit/credit cards.
As I've mentioned before, my local shop has gone cashless one or twice for a few days because scrotes have nicked telecoms cables from the bypass. I don't know why a mobile connection can't be used.
Good morning PBers. Should be an interesting day at Trent Bridge.
I spent most of yesterday listening to the commentary. Not a particularly remarkable day's play, but a thoroughly entertaining day's commentary. Amongst otger things I learned quite a bit about West Indies 20th century history. I had no idea that captains of the West Indies were always white until Frank Worral (nor indeed that so many other jobs were traditionally held by white people until the 1950s - the white population of the West Indies must have been substantial.)
Also good to see some West Indian batsmen batting like test cricketers. The WI team is part of the iconography of cricket and it makes me sad to see them fail too often.
That surely has much to do with the countries in the West Indies still being in the British Empire until at least the 1960s, and many not gaining independence until the 1970s-1980s?
Oh, indeed. But it never really struck me that the white population would be anything above insignificant. FWIW, cf the England cricket team - which was always captained by an amateur - i.e. someone posh - up until the 1950s. And indeed English society at large, where anyone with some degree of authority would be from a public school background.
The White population of the West Indies is not what you think it is. The vast majority are "redlegs" the descendents of those transported there into slavery en masse by Cromwell et al from Ireland.
They were treated as the lowest of the low, even lower in status than black people later brought in as slaves.
Not for nothing are there some parts of southern Ireland (as in the south of the Island) where the local accent sounds virtually West Indian.
I've just had a nosy around the various pages linked to from "White Carribeans" on wikipedia. The history is varied and fascinating. I didn't know, for example, that Barbados was used as a penal colony prior to the plantation economy. But some of the Carribean had significant white populations at various points in history. Bahamas, for example.
This book is worth a go, for carribean and others:
Alex Wickham @alexwickham · 1h — Starmer had good convos with Biden, Macron and Scholz in his first two weeks, but allies say his chief objective as PM is to avoid their fate at the hands of the populist right
— Trump’s comeback seen as proof he isn’t guaranteed a second term
Alex Wickham @alexwickham · 1h — some Starmer allies insist holding off Farage/Reform and the Tories has to be the key aim
Delicate balancing act. Need to stop Reform making further gains of ground, but keep them in the game as at present they are hurting Tory more than Labour.
Reform didn't hurt us. They handed us a landslide, gift wrapped and tied with a big ribbon.
Thank you, you bunch of swivel eyed loons.
I don't think that's correct. If more disenchanted Conservative voters had stayed at home rather than voting for Reform, it would have made very little difference to the result. I did a spreadsheet just before the election and I predicted the number of seats pretty accurately for each party, and pretty exactly by seat except Scotland, despite the fact I massively underestimated the Reform vote in many seats.
Alex Wickham @alexwickham · 1h — Starmer had good convos with Biden, Macron and Scholz in his first two weeks, but allies say his chief objective as PM is to avoid their fate at the hands of the populist right
— Trump’s comeback seen as proof he isn’t guaranteed a second term
Alex Wickham @alexwickham · 1h — some Starmer allies insist holding off Farage/Reform and the Tories has to be the key aim
Delicate balancing act. Need to stop Reform making further gains of ground, but keep them in the game as at present they are hurting Tory more than Labour.
Reform didn't hurt us. They handed us a landslide, gift wrapped and tied with a big ribbon.
Thank you, you bunch of swivel eyed loons.
I don't think that's correct. If more disenchanted Conservative voters had stayed at home rather than voting for Reform, it would have made very little difference to the result. I did a spreadsheet just before the election and I predicted the number of seats pretty accurately for each party, and pretty exactly by seat except Scotland, despite the fact I massively underestimated the Reform vote in many seats.
I really do think Reform voters are f*** the lot of you / none of the above voters - whose votes won't really go to other parties unless under circumstances such as 2019...
So the election came down to Tory voters not turning out to vote and an anti-Tory voters going out and voting the appropriate way for that constituency..
The efficiency of the Labour and Lib Dem votes relative to wins tells you everything you need to know.
Hurrah, somebody spotted my subtle musical reference.
You could have set out your expectations for the future of the common currency. Your Euro vision.
I am of the view when we rejoin the EU one of the main reasons is that Brits will want to join the Euro.
In the past when cash was king people saw the pound in their pocket and didn't want to lose that, now that we are heading to rightly becoming a cashless society then support for the joining the Euro will surge.
In your banking app whether it shows 2,000 pounds in your account or 2,000 Euros will make no difference.
It's just a number in your phone now. 90+% people aren't going to give a fuck and the weirdos who do, the types who have their trousers held up with an improvised belt of electrical cable and keep a spreadsheet of mixed ethnicity couples in TV adverts, will just have to lump it.
Until yesterday when the weirdo with a cable belt had a much easier time than the cashless.
There have been a few days recently come to think of it when my local Greggs has been cash (or Greggs app pay) only due to system failure on whatever processes debit/credit cards.
Hurrah, somebody spotted my subtle musical reference.
You could have set out your expectations for the future of the common currency. Your Euro vision.
I am of the view when we rejoin the EU one of the main reasons is that Brits will want to join the Euro.
In the past when cash was king people saw the pound in their pocket and didn't want to lose that, now that we are heading to rightly becoming a cashless society then support for the joining the Euro will surge.
In your banking app whether it shows 2,000 pounds in your account or 2,000 Euros will make no difference.
It's just a number in your phone now. 90+% people aren't going to give a fuck and the weirdos who do, the types who have their trousers held up with an improvised belt of electrical cable and keep a spreadsheet of mixed ethnicity couples in TV adverts, will just have to lump it.
Until yesterday when the weirdo with a cable belt had a much easier time than the cashless.
There have been a few days recently come to think of it when my local Greggs has been cash (or Greggs app pay) only due to system failure on whatever processes debit/credit cards.
You're in Greggs every day? Not sure that's wise.
Monzo bank have just changed the perks on their premium £15 a month account from discounted airport lounge access to one free Greggs per week. Targeting a slightly different aspiration set.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Then all the sc*m of Harehills joined in. The f******* who were loading the bus with combustible material didn't look Romany, they looked to be the same ethnicity as me.
B******* will be b******* irrespective of creed or colour.
Perhaps it is the Irish in me, but my instincts on seeing agents of the British state dragging away peoples children are to side with the demonstrators.
I remember years ago when we had young kids being advised never to take them to hospital with an injury unless it was of a nature that meant there was no choice, as you would immediately be under suspicion and deemed guilty until proven innocent.
In their case the SS inquisition abruptly ended when the husband got home from work and introduced himself, while still wearing his police inspectors uniform.
My wife and I were for many years involved as parent and child (and emergency placement) foster carers. The reality of how children are treated/ abused within the family environment pushes the boundaries of credulity.
I had no idea how certain people behaved, or even lived. From believing all children were always safer within the family, I no longer hold that view. Mind you some of the foster carers I met weren't qualified to look after small rodents let alone children.
Edit; do you not believe a Police Inspector capable of beating the **** out of his children?
I also think that with some of the dreadful things they see, some do then start seeing it around every corner. Especially if they have gone into it for idealistic reasons (eg bad experiences themselves and dont want it to happen to anyone else).
My experience of local authority Social Workers was that they were reactive rather than proactive. They would do all they could to keep a family together with one eye on cost, and then inevitably would have to act when it all went wrong.
Remember Baby P. and the Labinjo baby died through inaction rather than over-enthusiasm.
Hurrah, somebody spotted my subtle musical reference.
You could have set out your expectations for the future of the common currency. Your Euro vision.
I am of the view when we rejoin the EU one of the main reasons is that Brits will want to join the Euro.
In the past when cash was king people saw the pound in their pocket and didn't want to lose that, now that we are heading to rightly becoming a cashless society then support for the joining the Euro will surge.
In your banking app whether it shows 2,000 pounds in your account or 2,000 Euros will make no difference.
It's just a number in your phone now. 90+% people aren't going to give a fuck and the weirdos who do, the types who have their trousers held up with an improvised belt of electrical cable and keep a spreadsheet of mixed ethnicity couples in TV adverts, will just have to lump it.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
The big problem for the Dems is Biden is polling lower than many downballot Senate and House races .
Historically the downballot races become more coupled to the Presidential ones as you get closer to the election .
Ticket splitting is now much more rare because of the deep polarization amongst voters .
The Senate barring a miracle will be in GOP hands regardless of whether Biden stands down but it’s about mitigating losses at this election cycle ready for a more favourable map at the next mid terms .
The House is a different matter with the Dems having a better chance of regaining that but they’ll need to run up voters especially in NY which ironically cost them at the last mid terms .
They won’t be able to do this with Biden and his drag on the ticket .
In terms of state legislatures there are 44 up for election . This are often ignored in the UK media but these play a key role especially in terms of abortion and voting rights .
The real concern is that Biden suffers a big defeat , the GOP then with all branches of government and more legislatures than present inact more voter suppression and make it even more difficult for the Dems to recover .
Biden could well suffer another debate disaster in September leaving little room for any recovery as early voting begins a few weeks later .
Telegraph:
Nancy Pelosi has reportedly called for an “open process” to select a new Democrat presidential candidate should Joe Biden step down in the coming weeks.
Ms Pelosi is keen to avoid the appearance of a Kamala Harris “coronation” by awarding the ticket directly to the US vice president, believing that an uncompetitive process would put voters off, Politico reports.
Crowdstrike: apologies if I am the last person to realise this, but its impact was probably greater because companies installed it after the US government banned Kapersky, its Russian competitor.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
That isn't the message, it's very much - look at all those Indian people who are now in the area...
Hurrah, somebody spotted my subtle musical reference.
You could have set out your expectations for the future of the common currency. Your Euro vision.
I am of the view when we rejoin the EU one of the main reasons is that Brits will want to join the Euro.
In the past when cash was king people saw the pound in their pocket and didn't want to lose that, now that we are heading to rightly becoming a cashless society then support for the joining the Euro will surge.
In your banking app whether it shows 2,000 pounds in your account or 2,000 Euros will make no difference.
It's just a number in your phone now. 90+% people aren't going to give a fuck and the weirdos who do, the types who have their trousers held up with an improvised belt of electrical cable and keep a spreadsheet of mixed ethnicity couples in TV adverts, will just have to lump it.
Until yesterday when the weirdo with a cable belt had a much easier time than the cashless.
There have been a few days recently come to think of it when my local Greggs has been cash (or Greggs app pay) only due to system failure on whatever processes debit/credit cards.
It’s due to the thick layer of grease on the card readers.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
Subincontinent for a few years but beginning that long slow journey back to not smelling of poo.
If Biden does not go in the next few days, then he's probably destroyed the Democrats' chances in November.
And done severe damage to my Betfair book.
Yep. I can't see how he's a viable candidate in November (for several compelling reasons now) so it's a matter of how we get from here to there, to him not being the candidate. The longer he digs in the better it is for Donald Trump and the GOP. I really hope he succumbs to reason and the party and national interest before it's too late to reset and refocus on beating the eminently beatable Trump. If he does my respect and admiration for him will endure. If he doesn't it won't. Ditto something rather more important than how I feel about him - his legacy. He can try and protect it by making the right decision here or he can blow it to smithereens. C'mon Joe. Counted on you in 2020, counting on you now.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
The big problem for the Dems is Biden is polling lower than many downballot Senate and House races .
Historically the downballot races become more coupled to the Presidential ones as you get closer to the election .
Ticket splitting is now much more rare because of the deep polarization amongst voters .
The Senate barring a miracle will be in GOP hands regardless of whether Biden stands down but it’s about mitigating losses at this election cycle ready for a more favourable map at the next mid terms .
The House is a different matter with the Dems having a better chance of regaining that but they’ll need to run up voters especially in NY which ironically cost them at the last mid terms .
They won’t be able to do this with Biden and his drag on the ticket .
In terms of state legislatures there are 44 up for election . This are often ignored in the UK media but these play a key role especially in terms of abortion and voting rights .
The real concern is that Biden suffers a big defeat , the GOP then with all branches of government and more legislatures than present inact more voter suppression and make it even more difficult for the Dems to recover .
Biden could well suffer another debate disaster in September leaving little room for any recovery as early voting begins a few weeks later .
Telegraph:
Nancy Pelosi has reportedly called for an “open process” to select a new Democrat presidential candidate should Joe Biden step down in the coming weeks.
Ms Pelosi is keen to avoid the appearance of a Kamala Harris “coronation” by awarding the ticket directly to the US vice president, believing that an uncompetitive process would put voters off, Politico reports.
I don't pretend to know much about US politics but my impression is that most Americans are pretty dismayed by a Trump/Biden contest. They want to move on. Therefore if the Dems do dump Joe, and put up someone else (not Kamala), there will be a big sigh of relief and they can move on from the current shambles.
The Trumpites will still vote for Trump, of course, but without independents they simply can't win. It's really now up to the Democrats to manage the succession. And for the Biden coterie to see sense. Seems obvious, but what do I know?
Crowdstrike: apologies if I am the last person to realise this, but its impact was probably greater because companies installed it after the US government banned Kapersky, its Russian competitor.
I've seen a couple of code dissections of the failure on Twitter, and it seems a fairly bog-standard C++ null pointer dereference. Something that should really have been caught easily. Especially as it appears to happen every time, and not just in weird edge- or corner- cases.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Then all the sc*m of Harehills joined in. The f******* who were loading the bus with combustible material didn't look Romany, they looked to be the same ethnicity as me.
B******* will be b******* irrespective of creed or colour.
Perhaps it is the Irish in me, but my instincts on seeing agents of the British state dragging away peoples children are to side with the demonstrators.
I remember years ago when we had young kids being advised never to take them to hospital with an injury unless it was of a nature that meant there was no choice, as you would immediately be under suspicion and deemed guilty until proven innocent.
In their case the SS inquisition abruptly ended when the husband got home from work and introduced himself, while still wearing his police inspectors uniform.
My wife and I were for many years involved as parent and child (and emergency placement) foster carers. The reality of how children are treated/ abused within the family environment pushes the boundaries of credulity.
I had no idea how certain people behaved, or even lived. From believing all children were always safer within the family, I no longer hold that view. Mind you some of the foster carers I met weren't qualified to look after small rodents let alone children.
Edit; do you not believe a Police Inspector capable of beating the **** out of his children?
I also think that with some of the dreadful things they see, some do then start seeing it around every corner. Especially if they have gone into it for idealistic reasons (eg bad experiences themselves and dont want it to happen to anyone else).
My experience of local authority Social Workers was that they were reactive rather than proactive. They would do all they could to keep a family together with one eye on cost, and then inevitably would have to act when it all went wrong.
Remember Baby P. and the Labinjo baby died through inaction rather than over-enthusiasm.
To be fair to them, that presumption isn't just about cost - it tends to be what's best for the child unless the family environment is actively dangerous. Care is the last resort for good reasons which go beyond cost.
The big problem for the Dems is Biden is polling lower than many downballot Senate and House races .
Historically the downballot races become more coupled to the Presidential ones as you get closer to the election .
Ticket splitting is now much more rare because of the deep polarization amongst voters .
The Senate barring a miracle will be in GOP hands regardless of whether Biden stands down but it’s about mitigating losses at this election cycle ready for a more favourable map at the next mid terms .
The House is a different matter with the Dems having a better chance of regaining that but they’ll need to run up voters especially in NY which ironically cost them at the last mid terms .
They won’t be able to do this with Biden and his drag on the ticket .
In terms of state legislatures there are 44 up for election . This are often ignored in the UK media but these play a key role especially in terms of abortion and voting rights .
The real concern is that Biden suffers a big defeat , the GOP then with all branches of government and more legislatures than present inact more voter suppression and make it even more difficult for the Dems to recover .
Biden could well suffer another debate disaster in September leaving little room for any recovery as early voting begins a few weeks later .
Telegraph:
Nancy Pelosi has reportedly called for an “open process” to select a new Democrat presidential candidate should Joe Biden step down in the coming weeks.
Ms Pelosi is keen to avoid the appearance of a Kamala Harris “coronation” by awarding the ticket directly to the US vice president, believing that an uncompetitive process would put voters off, Politico reports.
A contest - so long as its relatively good-natured - could really work. Revive interest in the Democrats, and take it away from Trump. Reset the narrative, which badly needs resetting. Shrewd.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
What is playing out is a family grievance multiplied by a community that prides itself on supporting its members no matter what.
I encountered similar in the travelling communities in Wiltshire. Siding with an outsider is considered the worst sin Bolted on to that is the “Streetz” culture, where all the players (including white Britins) live in a fantasy world where they are black/hispanic gangsters in Compton. Think Ali G. - but these guys have knives, and electric bikes to go with their drug dealing. They can’t afford guns or cars….
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Then all the sc*m of Harehills joined in. The f******* who were loading the bus with combustible material didn't look Romany, they looked to be the same ethnicity as me.
B******* will be b******* irrespective of creed or colour.
Perhaps it is the Irish in me, but my instincts on seeing agents of the British state dragging away peoples children are to side with the demonstrators.
I remember years ago when we had young kids being advised never to take them to hospital with an injury unless it was of a nature that meant there was no choice, as you would immediately be under suspicion and deemed guilty until proven innocent.
In their case the SS inquisition abruptly ended when the husband got home from work and introduced himself, while still wearing his police inspectors uniform.
My wife and I were for many years involved as parent and child (and emergency placement) foster carers. The reality of how children are treated/ abused within the family environment pushes the boundaries of credulity.
I had no idea how certain people behaved, or even lived. From believing all children were always safer within the family, I no longer hold that view. Mind you some of the foster carers I met weren't qualified to look after small rodents let alone children.
Edit; do you not believe a Police Inspector capable of beating the **** out of his children?
I also think that with some of the dreadful things they see, some do then start seeing it around every corner. Especially if they have gone into it for idealistic reasons (eg bad experiences themselves and dont want it to happen to anyone else).
My experience of local authority Social Workers was that they were reactive rather than proactive. They would do all they could to keep a family together with one eye on cost, and then inevitably would have to act when it all went wrong.
Remember Baby P. and the Labinjo baby died through inaction rather than over-enthusiasm.
To be fair to them, that presumption isn't just about cost - it tends to be what's best for the child unless the family environment is actively dangerous. Care is the last resort for good reasons which go beyond cost.
I don't altogether disagree, but when decisions of what is optimal for the child are made on the balance of micrometre tolerances, mistakes inevitably occur.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
And Lord Sandwich
No man is a sandwich
No man is an sandwich, Entire of itself; Every man is but a condiment, To go with the main course.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
And Lord Sandwich
No man is a sandwich
No man is an sandwich, Entire of itself; Every man is but a condiment, To go with the main course.
I'm guessing from either Ogden Nash, Eric Cantona or a Trump Convention speech.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
And Lord Sandwich
No man is a sandwich
No man is an sandwich, Entire of itself; Every man is but a condiment, To go with the main course.
I'm guessing from either Ogden Nash, Eric Cantona or a Trump Convention speech.
Crowdstrike: apologies if I am the last person to realise this, but its impact was probably greater because companies installed it after the US government banned Kapersky, its Russian competitor.
I've seen a couple of code dissections of the failure on Twitter, and it seems a fairly bog-standard C++ null pointer dereference. Something that should really have been caught easily. Especially as it appears to happen every time, and not just in weird edge- or corner- cases.
The cursed null pointer. Still haunting us all decades after C was introduced.
Good morning PBers. Should be an interesting day at Trent Bridge.
I spent most of yesterday listening to the commentary. Not a particularly remarkable day's play, but a thoroughly entertaining day's commentary. Amongst otger things I learned quite a bit about West Indies 20th century history. I had no idea that captains of the West Indies were always white until Frank Worral (nor indeed that so many other jobs were traditionally held by white people until the 1950s - the white population of the West Indies must have been substantial.)
Also good to see some West Indian batsmen batting like test cricketers. The WI team is part of the iconography of cricket and it makes me sad to see them fail too often.
Yes I heard that too. Have now booked for the fourth day at Edgbaston (Hollis Stand) as it seems WI can bat after all!
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
The big problem for the Dems is Biden is polling lower than many downballot Senate and House races .
Historically the downballot races become more coupled to the Presidential ones as you get closer to the election .
Ticket splitting is now much more rare because of the deep polarization amongst voters .
The Senate barring a miracle will be in GOP hands regardless of whether Biden stands down but it’s about mitigating losses at this election cycle ready for a more favourable map at the next mid terms .
The House is a different matter with the Dems having a better chance of regaining that but they’ll need to run up voters especially in NY which ironically cost them at the last mid terms .
They won’t be able to do this with Biden and his drag on the ticket .
In terms of state legislatures there are 44 up for election . This are often ignored in the UK media but these play a key role especially in terms of abortion and voting rights .
The real concern is that Biden suffers a big defeat , the GOP then with all branches of government and more legislatures than present inact more voter suppression and make it even more difficult for the Dems to recover .
Biden could well suffer another debate disaster in September leaving little room for any recovery as early voting begins a few weeks later .
Telegraph:
Nancy Pelosi has reportedly called for an “open process” to select a new Democrat presidential candidate should Joe Biden step down in the coming weeks.
Ms Pelosi is keen to avoid the appearance of a Kamala Harris “coronation” by awarding the ticket directly to the US vice president, believing that an uncompetitive process would put voters off, Politico reports.
A contest - so long as its relatively good-natured - could really work. Revive interest in the Democrats, and take it away from Trump. Reset the narrative, which badly needs resetting. Shrewd.
How does it work? Who gets to stand ? Who votes ? What are the rules ?
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
And Lord Sandwich
Even the Isle of Lewis isn't entire of itself (Isle of Harris same).
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
Subincontinent for a few years but beginning that long slow journey back to not smelling of poo.
Sorry, but @eek, your logical contortions on this should really be mentioned - why do you think community leaders of communities originating in the subcontinent were trying to calm things down? Could it possibly be because members of their own communities were doing the rioting? It is simply gaslighting to highlight the (very admirable and brave) speech of the few, and ignore the actions of the many that necessitated it.
For the record, I don’t blame any immigrant communities for this - neither muslim communities nor romany communities are responsible fundamentally. The culprits are our own authorities and successive Governments, both those who have allowed immigration at a level where the migrants could never be successfully integrated into British society, and those who have failed to regulate and police those communities, which as a consequence have their own authorities, their own way of life, and don't take kindly to being told what to do by (in this instance) social workers or the police.
"Nobody has ever rolled a 1 harder in a D&D game than what Biden did at the debate."
The thing is it's true that a lot of people outside of his team also saw the early debate as a chance to assess whether Biden was up to the rigours of campaigning. (FWIW, I looked at it as a decision point for my election betting in just the same way.)
Crowdstrike: apologies if I am the last person to realise this, but its impact was probably greater because companies installed it after the US government banned Kapersky, its Russian competitor.
I've seen a couple of code dissections of the failure on Twitter, and it seems a fairly bog-standard C++ null pointer dereference. Something that should really have been caught easily. Especially as it appears to happen every time, and not just in weird edge- or corner- cases.
The cursed null pointer. Still haunting us all decades after C was introduced.
The cursed C, still haunting us all decades after we stopped needing to do this to ourselves.
Crowdstrike: apologies if I am the last person to realise this, but its impact was probably greater because companies installed it after the US government banned Kapersky, its Russian competitor.
I've seen a couple of code dissections of the failure on Twitter, and it seems a fairly bog-standard C++ null pointer dereference. Something that should really have been caught easily. Especially as it appears to happen every time, and not just in weird edge- or corner- cases.
The cursed null pointer. Still haunting us all decades after C was introduced.
The big problem for the Dems is Biden is polling lower than many downballot Senate and House races .
Historically the downballot races become more coupled to the Presidential ones as you get closer to the election .
Ticket splitting is now much more rare because of the deep polarization amongst voters .
The Senate barring a miracle will be in GOP hands regardless of whether Biden stands down but it’s about mitigating losses at this election cycle ready for a more favourable map at the next mid terms .
The House is a different matter with the Dems having a better chance of regaining that but they’ll need to run up voters especially in NY which ironically cost them at the last mid terms .
They won’t be able to do this with Biden and his drag on the ticket .
In terms of state legislatures there are 44 up for election . This are often ignored in the UK media but these play a key role especially in terms of abortion and voting rights .
The real concern is that Biden suffers a big defeat , the GOP then with all branches of government and more legislatures than present inact more voter suppression and make it even more difficult for the Dems to recover .
Biden could well suffer another debate disaster in September leaving little room for any recovery as early voting begins a few weeks later .
Telegraph:
Nancy Pelosi has reportedly called for an “open process” to select a new Democrat presidential candidate should Joe Biden step down in the coming weeks.
Ms Pelosi is keen to avoid the appearance of a Kamala Harris “coronation” by awarding the ticket directly to the US vice president, believing that an uncompetitive process would put voters off, Politico reports.
A contest - so long as its relatively good-natured - could really work. Revive interest in the Democrats, and take it away from Trump. Reset the narrative, which badly needs resetting. Shrewd.
I agree. On balance I think I want Trump to win, but an open and fair Democratic process leading to a fresh new set of candidates would be good for American democracy. Trump and the Republicans are not 'owed' a victory - if the Democrats can do better than an unwell old man, they should do it and make it an election.
Crowdstrike: apologies if I am the last person to realise this, but its impact was probably greater because companies installed it after the US government banned Kapersky, its Russian competitor.
I've seen a couple of code dissections of the failure on Twitter, and it seems a fairly bog-standard C++ null pointer dereference. Something that should really have been caught easily. Especially as it appears to happen every time, and not just in weird edge- or corner- cases.
The cursed null pointer. Still haunting us all decades after C was introduced.
That's what amazed me about this, as someone who was writing low-level C / asm code 25 years ago. The dangers of NULL pointers were well known back then (and, indeed, all the myriad of issues pointers can cause...), and therefore we had tools and processes to try to prevent them. This was even more the case for extremely low-level code, such as the kernel or low-level drivers (in C at least; asm was harder...)
That little low-level piece of code should have been reviewed and tested to within an inch of its life, and had large warning signs all over it: "Here be dragons!!!".
Of course, there's always the possibility that this *was* some weird edge case interaction between things; but the fact it bricked things immediately and seemingly reliably, indicates to me that it was just something obvious and dumb.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
Subincontinent for a few years but beginning that long slow journey back to not smelling of poo.
Sorry, but @eek, your logical contortions on this should really be mentioned - why do you think community leaders of communities originating in the subcontinent were trying to calm things down? Could it possibly be because members of their own communities were doing the rioting? It is simply gaslighting to highlight the (very admirable and brave) speech of the few, and ignore the actions of the many that necessitated it.
For the record, I don’t blame any immigrant communities for this - neither muslim communities nor romany communities are responsible fundamentally. The culprits are our own authorities and successive Governments, both those who have allowed immigration at a level where the migrants could never be successfully integrated into British society, and those who have failed to regulate and police those communities, which as a consequence have their own authorities, their own way of life, and don't take kindly to being told what to do by (in this instance) social workers or the police.
Nope there are feral families everywhere including in communities that are 100% British "working" class.
The issue here the age old one of boredom, feeling hard done by and heat generating riot conditions as soon as any trigger occurs.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
Subincontinent for a few years but beginning that long slow journey back to not smelling of poo.
Sorry, but @eek, your logical contortions on this should really be mentioned - why do you think community leaders of communities originating in the subcontinent were trying to calm things down? Could it possibly be because members of their own communities were doing the rioting? It is simply gaslighting to highlight the (very admirable and brave) speech of the few, and ignore the actions of the many that necessitated it.
For the record, I don’t blame any immigrant communities for this - neither muslim communities nor romany communities are responsible fundamentally. The culprits are our own authorities and successive Governments, both those who have allowed immigration at a level where the migrants could never be successfully integrated into British society, and those who have failed to regulate and police those communities, which as a consequence have their own authorities, their own way of life, and don't take kindly to being told what to do by (in this instance) social workers or the police.
Nope there are feral families everywhere including in communities that are 100% British "working" class.
The issue here the age old one of boredom, feeling hard done by and heat generating riot conditions as soon as any trigger occurs.
Are you actually saying that community leaders from communities of Asian origin came on the streets to urge white people to stop rioting?
The impression I got was that the various campaigns had almost no effect at all, with the possible exception of Ed Davey whose various antics got attention for the Lib Dems and really boosted their performance well beyond what was expected.
Starmer had his ming vase strategy, desperate to make no mistakes and retain the lead he had been given. Either the polling was seriously wrong or he failed in this because the Labour vote was 6-7% below what the polls were telling us but he succeeded in his main object of a substantial majority.
Sunak was simply not being listened to. He had that silly National Service idea but basically he was largely ignored, despite some quite good economic news during the campaign. I find the chart surprising in that context, the strong impression that i had throughout was that people had made up their minds that the Tories were gonners.
Swinney did as well in elections as he usually does but the SNP faced a similar problem to the Tories. They have been in government too long to blame anyone else and people are tired of them.
I confess I really don't know anyone who votes Reform. The relative failure of their campaign compared to that of the Lib Dems shows they have a lot to learn about how to be effective in a FPTP system, something Farage has never mastered.
Local campaigns seemed to have more effect. I’m thinking principally of the Gaza protest candidates and also the two Green rural victories.
Crowdstrike: apologies if I am the last person to realise this, but its impact was probably greater because companies installed it after the US government banned Kapersky, its Russian competitor.
I've seen a couple of code dissections of the failure on Twitter, and it seems a fairly bog-standard C++ null pointer dereference. Something that should really have been caught easily. Especially as it appears to happen every time, and not just in weird edge- or corner- cases.
The cursed null pointer. Still haunting us all decades after C was introduced.
That's what amazed me about this, as someone who was writing low-level C / asm code 25 years ago. The dangers of NULL pointers were well known back then (and, indeed, all the myriad of issues pointers can cause...), and therefore we had tools and processes to try to prevent them. This was even more the case for extremely low-level code, such as the kernel or low-level drivers (in C at least; asm was harder...)
That little low-level piece of code should have been reviewed and tested to within an inch of its life, and had large warning signs all over it: "Here be dragons!!!".
Of course, there's always the possibility that this *was* some weird edge case interaction between things; but the fact it bricked things immediately and seemingly reliably, indicates to me that it was just something obvious and dumb.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
Subincontinent for a few years but beginning that long slow journey back to not smelling of poo.
Sorry, but @eek, your logical contortions on this should really be mentioned - why do you think community leaders of communities originating in the subcontinent were trying to calm things down? Could it possibly be because members of their own communities were doing the rioting? It is simply gaslighting to highlight the (very admirable and brave) speech of the few, and ignore the actions of the many that necessitated it.
For the record, I don’t blame any immigrant communities for this - neither muslim communities nor romany communities are responsible fundamentally. The culprits are our own authorities and successive Governments, both those who have allowed immigration at a level where the migrants could never be successfully integrated into British society, and those who have failed to regulate and police those communities, which as a consequence have their own authorities, their own way of life, and don't take kindly to being told what to do by (in this instance) social workers or the police.
Nope there are feral families everywhere including in communities that are 100% British "working" class.
The issue here the age old one of boredom, feeling hard done by and heat generating riot conditions as soon as any trigger occurs.
There is a ghastly story, at the same time darkly hilarious, of how the Nazis tried to deal with “feral families”
At first they invested quite a bit of effort to “save” Aryans…
"Is this election over? Probably — as I’ve thought for a while now. Is the liberal regime that has governed both party elites since the Second World War also over? Probably as well. But in so far as that represents a response to truly changed circumstances, and to the evident failures of neoliberalism, that’s not so bad. A largely unified, uniparty blob in DC needed disruption. Trump disrupted. Now Trumpism may have a chance to prove itself in government … or not.
Can the Democrats respond with the skill, poise and energy required? If Biden goes, and an open convention can showcase newer, younger talent, there’s still a chance. But it will take nerve to seize it."
Crowdstrike: apologies if I am the last person to realise this, but its impact was probably greater because companies installed it after the US government banned Kapersky, its Russian competitor.
I've seen a couple of code dissections of the failure on Twitter, and it seems a fairly bog-standard C++ null pointer dereference. Something that should really have been caught easily. Especially as it appears to happen every time, and not just in weird edge- or corner- cases.
The cursed null pointer. Still haunting us all decades after C was introduced.
That's what amazed me about this, as someone who was writing low-level C / asm code 25 years ago. The dangers of NULL pointers were well known back then (and, indeed, all the myriad of issues pointers can cause...), and therefore we had tools and processes to try to prevent them. This was even more the case for extremely low-level code, such as the kernel or low-level drivers (in C at least; asm was harder...)
That little low-level piece of code should have been reviewed and tested to within an inch of its life, and had large warning signs all over it: "Here be dragons!!!".
Of course, there's always the possibility that this *was* some weird edge case interaction between things; but the fact it bricked things immediately and seemingly reliably, indicates to me that it was just something obvious and dumb.
Obvious, dumb and untested.
I'm not a Windows developer, so I do wonder if it was tested, but it was one of these weird situations where the test environment interfered with the tests - though that's still a sign of poor process. A classic example I've experienced was testing a debug version of the code, and the debug code stopping a bug from showing.
The impression I got was that the various campaigns had almost no effect at all, with the possible exception of Ed Davey whose various antics got attention for the Lib Dems and really boosted their performance well beyond what was expected.
Starmer had his ming vase strategy, desperate to make no mistakes and retain the lead he had been given. Either the polling was seriously wrong or he failed in this because the Labour vote was 6-7% below what the polls were telling us but he succeeded in his main object of a substantial majority.
Sunak was simply not being listened to. He had that silly National Service idea but basically he was largely ignored, despite some quite good economic news during the campaign. I find the chart surprising in that context, the strong impression that i had throughout was that people had made up their minds that the Tories were gonners.
Swinney did as well in elections as he usually does but the SNP faced a similar problem to the Tories. They have been in government too long to blame anyone else and people are tired of them.
I confess I really don't know anyone who votes Reform. The relative failure of their campaign compared to that of the Lib Dems shows they have a lot to learn about how to be effective in a FPTP system, something Farage has never mastered.
The 2024 Labour campaign did have an effect. The timid Ming vase strategy caused Labour to shed millions of votes. It was a dire campaign from start to finish, totally lacking in ambition. Labour won because the Conservatives were so dire, yet with a GB wide vote vote share of just 35% Labour very nearly blew it in the space of just 6 weeks.
It's worth comparing the Labour campaigns of 2017 (not 2019!) with 2024. In both campaigns, the Conservatives messed up badly (social care in 2017, D day etc in 2024.) In both campaigns, Brexit wasn't an issue either (much as the Conservatives tried to make it one.) So the door was open to Labour in both campaigns.
Yet in 2017, during the campaign Labour's polling increased by 15% (from 26% to 41%) whereas in 2024 Labour's share fell by 10% (from about 45% to 35%).
The difference was that in 2017, Labour set out ambitious plans, together with a costed programme of how it was going to be paid for that was plausible enough to reassure rather than scare voters off. Now how plausible that funding programme was in reality was another thing of course, but the fact is that plenty of people were prepared to vote for it.
In 2017 we lost. This year we won.
Everything else is secondary.
That's a head in the sand attitude guaranteed to lead to defeat in 2029. You think that Labour can continue to win general elections with just 35% of the vote. I don't and I think lessons need to be learned. This year Starmer got lucky thanks to Reform, and thus an absolutely inept Labour campaign was insufficient to erode enough the 20% advantage which (to his credit) he'd built up and maintained since 2022.
It's a real question - why did Labour's vote share deteriorate so much from the 45% at the start of the campaign to the actual 35% achieved on polling day, despite the apparent horlicks that Sunak made of the Conservative campaign? About 7% of that decline was in the opinion polls, and a further 3% the difference between the final polls and the actual result, but the latter shouldn't be accepted as inevitable either because in 2017 Labour polled better than the final polls were suggesting in contrast to 2024. I think that the answer to why the polls were wrong in 2024 but not 2017 is simple - in 2017 Labour supporters were motivated positively to vote, whereas in 2024 the positive motivation was much less.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
Subincontinent for a few years but beginning that long slow journey back to not smelling of poo.
Sorry, but @eek, your logical contortions on this should really be mentioned - why do you think community leaders of communities originating in the subcontinent were trying to calm things down? Could it possibly be because members of their own communities were doing the rioting? It is simply gaslighting to highlight the (very admirable and brave) speech of the few, and ignore the actions of the many that necessitated it.
For the record, I don’t blame any immigrant communities for this - neither muslim communities nor romany communities are responsible fundamentally. The culprits are our own authorities and successive Governments, both those who have allowed immigration at a level where the migrants could never be successfully integrated into British society, and those who have failed to regulate and police those communities, which as a consequence have their own authorities, their own way of life, and don't take kindly to being told what to do by (in this instance) social workers or the police.
Nope there are feral families everywhere including in communities that are 100% British "working" class.
The issue here the age old one of boredom, feeling hard done by and heat generating riot conditions as soon as any trigger occurs.
Are you actually saying that community leaders from communities of Asian origin came on the streets to urge white people to stop rioting?
I take it you don't live or have dealings with Inner city / town multicultural areas.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
And Lord Sandwich
Even the Isle of Lewis isn't entire of itself (Isle of Harris same).
The impression I got was that the various campaigns had almost no effect at all, with the possible exception of Ed Davey whose various antics got attention for the Lib Dems and really boosted their performance well beyond what was expected.
Starmer had his ming vase strategy, desperate to make no mistakes and retain the lead he had been given. Either the polling was seriously wrong or he failed in this because the Labour vote was 6-7% below what the polls were telling us but he succeeded in his main object of a substantial majority.
Sunak was simply not being listened to. He had that silly National Service idea but basically he was largely ignored, despite some quite good economic news during the campaign. I find the chart surprising in that context, the strong impression that i had throughout was that people had made up their minds that the Tories were gonners.
Swinney did as well in elections as he usually does but the SNP faced a similar problem to the Tories. They have been in government too long to blame anyone else and people are tired of them.
I confess I really don't know anyone who votes Reform. The relative failure of their campaign compared to that of the Lib Dems shows they have a lot to learn about how to be effective in a FPTP system, something Farage has never mastered.
The 2024 Labour campaign did have an effect. The timid Ming vase strategy caused Labour to shed millions of votes. It was a dire campaign from start to finish, totally lacking in ambition. Labour won because the Conservatives were so dire, yet with a GB wide vote vote share of just 35% Labour very nearly blew it in the space of just 6 weeks.
It's worth comparing the Labour campaigns of 2017 (not 2019!) with 2024. In both campaigns, the Conservatives messed up badly (social care in 2017, D day etc in 2024.) In both campaigns, Brexit wasn't an issue either (much as the Conservatives tried to make it one.) So the door was open to Labour in both campaigns.
Yet in 2017, during the campaign Labour's polling increased by 15% (from 26% to 41%) whereas in 2024 Labour's share fell by 10% (from about 45% to 35%).
The difference was that in 2017, Labour set out ambitious plans, together with a costed programme of how it was going to be paid for that was plausible enough to reassure rather than scare voters off. Now how plausible that funding programme was in reality was another thing of course, but the fact is that plenty of people were prepared to vote for it.
In 2017 we lost. This year we won.
Everything else is secondary.
That's a head in the sand attitude guaranteed to lead to defeat in 2029. You think that Labour can continue to win general elections with just 35% of the vote. I don't and I think lessons need to be learned. This year Starmer got lucky thanks to Reform, and thus an absolutely inept Labour campaign was insufficient to erode enough the 20% advantage which (to his credit) he'd built up and maintained since 2022.
It's a real question - why did Labour's vote share deteriorate so much from the 45% at the start of the campaign to the actual 35% achieved on polling day, despite the apparent horlicks that Sunak made of the Conservative campaign? About 7% of that decline was in the opinion polls, and a further 3% the difference between the final polls and the actual result, but the latter shouldn't be accepted as inevitable either because in 2017 Labour polled better than the final polls were suggesting in contrast to 2024. I think that the answer to why the polls were wrong in 2024 but not 2017 is simple - in 2017 Labour supporters were motivated positively to vote, whereas in 2024 the positive motivation was much less.
Got to say the only reason Labour offered to vote Labour was - we aren't the Tory Party. Now it did win them the election but it only just did so.
Mind you 2017 had the death tax which did nothing in providing core Tory party voters a reason to go out and vote.
Netanyahu is going to do his utmost to secure a win for Trumpm and he'll use that platform on Wednesday whether or not Biden the candidate. Wednesday is a red herring, just an attempt to play for time for a few more days, while all the time in the face of this disarray and uncertainty Trump is given a free pass to consolidate his lead.
"Is this election over? Probably — as I’ve thought for a while now. Is the liberal regime that has governed both party elites since the Second World War also over? Probably as well. But in so far as that represents a response to truly changed circumstances, and to the evident failures of neoliberalism, that’s not so bad. A largely unified, uniparty blob in DC needed disruption. Trump disrupted. Now Trumpism may have a chance to prove itself in government … or not.
Can the Democrats respond with the skill, poise and energy required? If Biden goes, and an open convention can showcase newer, younger talent, there’s still a chance. But it will take nerve to seize it."
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
And Lord Sandwich
Even the Isle of Lewis isn't entire of itself (Isle of Harris same).
But has anyone convinced them?
On the subject of fake islands, look at the Black Isle - neither an isle, nor black.
Luntz says the intensity of the support from Trump's GOP voters after the events of last week and the convention speech means you should add 1 or 2 % to his actual polling numbers because GOTV will be so much easier for GOP. They are fired up and want their man to win desperately.
Netanyahu is going to do his utmost to secure a win for Trumpm and he'll use that platform on Wednesday whether or not Biden the candidate. Wednesday is a red herring, just an attempt to play for time for a few more days, while all the time in the face of this disarray and uncertainty Trump is given a free pass to consolidate his lead.
Yep. As soon as Wed is done there'll be another thing that is a reason to stay a few days before announcing retirement.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
And Lord Sandwich
Even the Isle of Lewis isn't entire of itself (Isle of Harris same).
But has anyone convinced them?
On the subject of fake islands, look at the Black Isle - neither an isle, nor black.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
And Lord Sandwich
Even the Isle of Lewis isn't entire of itself (Isle of Harris same).
But has anyone convinced them?
On the subject of fake islands, look at the Black Isle - neither an isle, nor black.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
Subincontinent for a few years but beginning that long slow journey back to not smelling of poo.
Sorry, but @eek, your logical contortions on this should really be mentioned - why do you think community leaders of communities originating in the subcontinent were trying to calm things down? Could it possibly be because members of their own communities were doing the rioting? It is simply gaslighting to highlight the (very admirable and brave) speech of the few, and ignore the actions of the many that necessitated it.
For the record, I don’t blame any immigrant communities for this - neither muslim communities nor romany communities are responsible fundamentally. The culprits are our own authorities and successive Governments, both those who have allowed immigration at a level where the migrants could never be successfully integrated into British society, and those who have failed to regulate and police those communities, which as a consequence have their own authorities, their own way of life, and don't take kindly to being told what to do by (in this instance) social workers or the police.
Nope there are feral families everywhere including in communities that are 100% British "working" class.
The issue here the age old one of boredom, feeling hard done by and heat generating riot conditions as soon as any trigger occurs.
Are you actually saying that community leaders from communities of Asian origin came on the streets to urge white people to stop rioting?
I take it you don't live or have dealings with Inner city / town multicultural areas.
I’m from Northern Ireland. It’s disgraceful to suggest that we need to import people into Britain to do riots. This is exactly the kind of running down Britain that gives us a bad name.
We have a long traditional of violent street protest of the highest quality, supplied by native artisans. Some of the finest renta-mobs in Europe, as well.
It seems that last nights further demonstrations against the Child Snatchers General (Leeds Social Services) were peaceful and well attended.
Appears that after one of said children presented in hospital with a head injury they decided that there was a risk it was deliberate and their backsides would not be covered the other children might be at risk, unless they were all taken into care (at vast cost to the taxpayer of course).
The parents are now on hunger strike and will do a Bobby Sands unless they are returned.
There will be much more to this story than your short synopsis above.
The Times have the story.
Apparently it started when social services attended a Roma family over a serious child welfare issue. They got aggressive, then the social workers called for police help, and then word spread amongst from that Roma family amongst their community on social media. And they came out in force.
They then attacked the police car that turned up to help protect the social workers, and take the child into care, and then the (unarmed) police were forced to withdraw.
Has Farage apologised for blaming people from the subcontinent?
A silly question, I know.
And yet that utter piece of filth is in America, kowtowing to the madmen over there who might form the next administration, poisoning their minds with his false and crap views of what is going on over here.
A number of the usual suspects joined in - known trouble makers of various ethnicities.
From the sub-culture known as Violent Shitheads.
Yes, as I said the next morning: relatively hot, muggy weather is prime rioting time.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
Nope - because it seems to have been the local "subcontinent" leaders trying to calm things down..
Message to all the Brits that don’t think we’re part of Europe. Do you think Britain is a subcontinent?
This is not difficult. The big bits are continents and the little bits are islands. No man is an island intire of itself, every man is part of a continent - John Donne. You are one or the other. Plate tectonics has no bearing on the fact. You think it's about continents because Wegener. Also you are committed to saying Spain and Portugal are part of Africa. Happy with that?
No man is an island, entire of itself. Except, of course, the Isle of Man.
And Lord Sandwich
Even the Isle of Lewis isn't entire of itself (Isle of Harris same).
But has anyone convinced them?
On the subject of fake islands, look at the Black Isle - neither an isle, nor black.
Isle of Purbeck
Examples which make a nonsense of the claim that we have to revise the definition of continent. It's not like it was only in the 20th century we realised that everything is joined together underneath. Places like Lindisfarne were also a pretty major clue.
The impression I got was that the various campaigns had almost no effect at all, with the possible exception of Ed Davey whose various antics got attention for the Lib Dems and really boosted their performance well beyond what was expected.
Starmer had his ming vase strategy, desperate to make no mistakes and retain the lead he had been given. Either the polling was seriously wrong or he failed in this because the Labour vote was 6-7% below what the polls were telling us but he succeeded in his main object of a substantial majority.
Sunak was simply not being listened to. He had that silly National Service idea but basically he was largely ignored, despite some quite good economic news during the campaign. I find the chart surprising in that context, the strong impression that i had throughout was that people had made up their minds that the Tories were gonners.
Swinney did as well in elections as he usually does but the SNP faced a similar problem to the Tories. They have been in government too long to blame anyone else and people are tired of them.
I confess I really don't know anyone who votes Reform. The relative failure of their campaign compared to that of the Lib Dems shows they have a lot to learn about how to be effective in a FPTP system, something Farage has never mastered.
We saw quite a few Reform voters on election day when knocking up. So people who said they would or probably would vote LD who when knocked up confirmed they had voted Reform. They were voting against the Govt so LD was their choice when canvassed, but switched their protest vote to Reform. They were all normal nice everyday people, but then we would not have been knocking up the hard core Reform voters who would have been Reform from the outset.
The LDs have had decades mastering their way around the FPTP system. Even with all our success in the past at doing so we have never scored a proportional result until now. The targeting was really ruthless and the effort massive. We put out about 13 leaflets/letters here, canvassed nearly the whole constituency and had hundreds of posters up. Reform can't do that at all and it is difficult seeing how they could ever do it. It is a huge grassroots organisation, backed up by well established central systems and many people willing to put in massive amounts of work for free.
A last comment - I have been involved in many GE. This was the best one ever. It was great fun and we had huge laughs. It could however be because although I did a huge amount I also (for the first time in decades) had no responsibility. So the fun without the stress.
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— Starmer had good convos with Biden, Macron and Scholz in his first two weeks, but allies say his chief objective as PM is to avoid their fate at the hands of the populist right
— Trump’s comeback seen as proof he isn’t guaranteed a second term
Alex Wickham
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— some Starmer allies insist holding off Farage/Reform and the Tories has to be the key aim
https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1814575157203153195
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Delicate balancing act. Need to stop Reform making further gains of ground, but keep them in the game as at present they are hurting Tory more than Labour.
1) parents complaining that their children have been taken into care. And those parents are hardly likely to say, yes we weren't good parents
2) the cases where social services didn't intervene early enough resulting in deaths/ injuries/ neglect serious enough to make at least the local news.
In both cases Social services end up being the bad guys...
So go on: tell me where *you* think they're from. You know, from watching that footage. Go on. Country-by-country; ethnicity by ethnicity.
It's not easy, is it?
Farage was *way* out of order.
But Farage said: "The politics of the subcontinent are currently playing out on the streets of Leeds. Don’t say I didn’t warn you."
Do you think he was right?
And then the rest of society has to intervene to sort out the mess and resulting problems.
Thank you, you bunch of swivel eyed loons.
FWIW, cf the England cricket team - which was always captained by an amateur - i.e. someone posh - up until the 1950s. And indeed English society at large, where anyone with some degree of authority would be from a public school background.
Edit: when I was a Children’s Panel member, there was normally legal representation for the family. There are a number of specialist family lawyers, who we saw at hearings regularly. There were also translators called in if necessary.
They were treated as the lowest of the low, even lower in status than black people later brought in as slaves.
Not for nothing are there some parts of southern Ireland (as in the south of the Island) where the local accent sounds virtually West Indian.
https://borgenproject.org/redlegs-of-barbados/
Muslims being a big issue among MAGA whereas East European Roma being more important to many Reform voters.
Historically the downballot races become more coupled to the Presidential ones as you get closer to the election .
Ticket splitting is now much more rare because of the deep polarization amongst voters .
The Senate barring a miracle will be in GOP hands regardless of whether Biden stands down but it’s about mitigating losses at this election cycle ready for a more favourable map at the next mid terms .
The House is a different matter with the Dems having a better chance of regaining that but they’ll need to run up voters especially in NY which ironically cost them at the last mid terms .
They won’t be able to do this with Biden and his drag on the ticket .
In terms of state legislatures there are 44 up for election . This are often ignored in the UK media but these play a key role especially in terms of abortion and voting rights .
The real concern is that Biden suffers a big defeat , the GOP then with all branches of government and more legislatures than present inact more voter suppression and make it even more difficult for the Dems to recover .
Biden could well suffer another debate disaster in September leaving little room for any recovery as early voting begins a few weeks later .
There have been a few days recently come to think of it when my local Greggs has been cash (or Greggs app pay) only due to system failure on whatever processes debit/credit cards.
But some of the Carribean had significant white populations at various points in history. Bahamas, for example.
When Irish indentured slaves started to work with black slaves in the West Indies to overthrow their colonial masters, the British came up with a devilishly brilliant and effective plan of inventing the concept of race (the progenitor of eugenics) to convince the Irish they were superior to black people and should side with the British (gross oversimplification)
There's a great chat between Blind Boy and Emma Dabiri that's a great primer if anyone's interested: https://youtu.be/hGPRb1HAeqU
(Having just returned from a roadtrip around Ireland that took in Dingle, Kerry, Cork and Limerick and ended at the Post Office in Dublin I'm fascinated by this history at the moment)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-White-Tribes-Journeys-Forgotten/dp/0099289466/
So the election came down to Tory voters not turning out to vote and an anti-Tory voters going out and voting the appropriate way for that constituency..
The efficiency of the Labour and Lib Dem votes relative to wins tells you everything you need to know.
Remember Baby P. and the Labinjo baby died through inaction rather than over-enthusiasm.
Nancy Pelosi has reportedly called for an “open process” to select a new Democrat presidential candidate should Joe Biden step down in the coming weeks.
Ms Pelosi is keen to avoid the appearance of a Kamala Harris “coronation” by awarding the ticket directly to the US vice president, believing that an uncompetitive process would put voters off, Politico reports.
As a sign I'm getting old, the fiftieth anniversary feels like it was last year...
The Trumpites will still vote for Trump, of course, but without independents they simply can't win. It's really now up to the Democrats to manage the succession. And for the Biden coterie to see sense. Seems obvious, but what do I know?
I encountered similar in the travelling communities in Wiltshire. Siding with an outsider is considered the worst sin
Bolted on to that is the “Streetz” culture, where all the players (including white Britins) live in a fantasy world where they are black/hispanic gangsters in Compton. Think Ali G. - but these guys have knives, and electric bikes to go with their drug dealing. They can’t afford guns or cars….
Personally I would err on the side of caution.
If you step down the day AFTER Bibi mocks you in front of Congress it would look even worse.
https://x.com/emptywheel/status/1814610142496751833
Entire of itself;
Every man is but a condiment,
To go with the main course.
Bill Kristol
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A good if angry thread.
https://x.com/DanteAtkins/status/1814417726468747434
"Nobody has ever rolled a 1 harder in a D&D game than what Biden did at the debate."
(ducks)
Who gets to stand ?
Who votes ?
What are the rules ?
It could also be a car crash.
For the record, I don’t blame any immigrant communities for this - neither muslim communities nor romany communities are responsible fundamentally. The culprits are our own authorities and successive Governments, both those who have allowed immigration at a level where the migrants could never be successfully integrated into British society, and those who have failed to regulate and police those communities, which as a consequence have their own authorities, their own way of life, and don't take kindly to being told what to do by (in this instance) social workers or the police.
(FWIW, I looked at it as a decision point for my election betting in just the same way.)
That little low-level piece of code should have been reviewed and tested to within an inch of its life, and had large warning signs all over it: "Here be dragons!!!".
Of course, there's always the possibility that this *was* some weird edge case interaction between things; but the fact it bricked things immediately and seemingly reliably, indicates to me that it was just something obvious and dumb.
Real programmers light a fire on a beach, melt some sand, whittle a chip with a jack knife….
The issue here the age old one of boredom, feeling hard done by and heat generating riot conditions as soon as any trigger occurs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KSQ5xKc4oM&ab_channel=ZeihanonGeopolitics
Also - a recommendation of an interactive polllng website on which to play in the meantime.
https://www.270towin.com/
Now why would facebook think this aligns with my browsing habits?
At first they invested quite a bit of effort to “save” Aryans…
It all went downhill from there.
"Is this election over? Probably — as I’ve thought for a while now. Is the liberal regime that has governed both party elites since the Second World War also over? Probably as well. But in so far as that represents a response to truly changed circumstances, and to the evident failures of neoliberalism, that’s not so bad. A largely unified, uniparty blob in DC needed disruption. Trump disrupted. Now Trumpism may have a chance to prove itself in government … or not.
Can the Democrats respond with the skill, poise and energy required? If Biden goes, and an open convention can showcase newer, younger talent, there’s still a chance. But it will take nerve to seize it."
https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/regime-change-in-america-dc8
Always test the release version...
It's a real question - why did Labour's vote share deteriorate so much from the 45% at the start of the campaign to the actual 35% achieved on polling day, despite the apparent horlicks that Sunak made of the Conservative campaign? About 7% of that decline was in the opinion polls, and a further 3% the difference between the final polls and the actual result, but the latter shouldn't be accepted as inevitable either because in 2017 Labour polled better than the final polls were suggesting in contrast to 2024. I think that the answer to why the polls were wrong in 2024 but not 2017 is simple - in 2017 Labour supporters were motivated positively to vote, whereas in 2024 the positive motivation was much less.
Mind you 2017 had the death tax which did nothing in providing core Tory party voters a reason to go out and vote.
Betting PostF1: backed Piastri, each way, for pole at 7.5.
https://enormo-haddock.blogspot.com/2024/07/hungary-pre-qualifying-2024.html
Before Dems know it, it will be too late.
Ship of fools.
We have a long traditional of violent street protest of the highest quality, supplied by native artisans. Some of the finest renta-mobs in Europe, as well.
#BackBritshMadeStreetViolence
Examples which make a nonsense of the claim that we have to revise the definition of continent. It's not like it was only in the 20th century we realised that everything is joined together underneath. Places like Lindisfarne were also a pretty major clue.
The LDs have had decades mastering their way around the FPTP system. Even with all our success in the past at doing so we have never scored a proportional result until now. The targeting was really ruthless and the effort massive. We put out about 13 leaflets/letters here, canvassed nearly the whole constituency and had hundreds of posters up. Reform can't do that at all and it is difficult seeing how they could ever do it. It is a huge grassroots organisation, backed up by well established central systems and many people willing to put in massive amounts of work for free.
A last comment - I have been involved in many GE. This was the best one ever. It was great fun and we had huge laughs. It could however be because although I did a huge amount I also (for the first time in decades) had no responsibility. So the fun without the stress.
Off to another celebration party tonight.
Keanu Reeves on his novel with China Miéville
https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/jul/20/i-wanted-to-do-pulpy-hyper-violent-action-keanu-reeves-on-his-novel-with-china-mieville-and-the-afterlife-of-the-matrix