Understanding the exit poll – politicalbetting.com
Understanding the exit poll – politicalbetting.com
‘There’s a misconception that there are people with clipboards or iPads outside polling stations asking how you voted.’Ipsos’ Kieran Pedley explains how the closing exit poll will be calculated on election night. @IainDale pic.twitter.com/D2k30ffs5C
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4th like the Conservative Party
Ok fourth like The Black Hundreds
And there WAS a man outside with a clipboard asking how I had just voted. It was part of the official exit poll - he showed me the ID.
(And, no, his address wasn’t in Ibadan
https://x.com/FBAwayDays/status/1801571280015007859?t=oeR5vDHsiTHCWr9iv0iarw&s=08
Seen in Kyiv three days ago
I wonder where I've seen that before ?
But you have to admit to possible error, which people often find difficult.
This is my first time being really involved at this scale - from memory there’s a huge odds fluctuation at 10pm.
Do you ever see people in the know betting large sums at 9:59pm?
I know we are all pro-Ukraine here but I’ve seen some Nazi-tinged shit that would make your hair curl
I could post images but because of dorks like @Heathener we are still restricted to one a day
- Perfect timing: it’s a very late night, but results start coming in early enough to keep you hooked. And it doesn’t drag on for days
- Notable MPs winning or losing seats, and Portillo moments
- Suspense until the guest meaningful seats come in, and projections of swing
- Little oddities, plots within plots, throughout the night
When we replace FPTP we need to do something to ensure the new system is equally dramatic.
I was registered at the time in Norfolk and unbeknown to me that particularly polling station is on the exit poll roster. IIRC they sampled every 10th person leaving the polling station or something like that (I asked them ‘why me?’). Anyway it was all official and I felt quite excited at being part of the famous 10pm tally.
I wouldn’t bet against Curtice and team either!
But I would note that they have their work cut out this time because there could be more tactical voting than ever before and likely some curious anomalous swings going on.
The market shat itself twice at 10pm in 2015 and 2017.
There were how did you vote polls by the pollsters though.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/14/elections-guru-john-curtice-exit-polls
Not sure where this all ends.
I need to watch some football and drink some wine.
C ya.
But I know you see the same or worse in Russia (I’ve seen it, in full flagrant view in the Moscow office of one of our partners shortly after the Crimea annexation - a cartoon of a jolly Russian farmer anal raping a Ukrainian woman). And Ukraine doesn’t seek the destruction of the Western world order.
I mean in 2015 he predicted the Tories just short but as the early results came in he updated it to a Tory majority.
In 2017 there was a belief the exit poll was wrong but I definitely caused ructions at Matthew Parker Street and Betfair with this thread.
https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/06/09/if-youre-not-mentally-prepared-for-corbyn-as-prime-minister-then-you-should-be/
Thankfully Scotland and Ruth Davidson stopped us getting PM Corbyn.
Also, didn't the 2015 exit poll say NOM at 10pm? No criticism, but inaccurate enough for a well informed punter to improve on it, if you spot something they don't.
I quite like this ‘my dad was a X, Y, Z’ fad at the moment, but it’s good to see his mum getting a mention: market researcher.
Nice article. Thank you for linking it.
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These big festivals though are becoming increasing memmmmber-berry. Download the hardcore rock / metalcore festival has Offspring, Fallout Boy, Sum41, Bowling For Soup, Wheatus, Hoobastank, Atreyu...its like Warped Tour 2000s.
And the cheesiest crappiest "alternative" act from then, Limp Bizkit, have now all of a suddenly become really popular again.
The truly confuddling thing is that both sides use Nazi imagery (wtf is the Z about on Russian tanks etc? And all those WAGNER guys with swastika tatts)
I think it is simply something soldiers do. Nazi signs are seen as macho and brutal and scary so you adopt them
Also there is merit in the Russian accusation that Ukrainian politics has some Nazi antecedents. Bandera is not fiction. He existed. And the Ukrainians were tremendous anti semites. But so were many Russians and the Estonians and Latvians etc who are now cherished partners in Europe
It’s a moral mess. But the fact is Putin is the invader and he threatens all of us so we must support Ukraine nonetheless
BBC Election Night 2015 video
The only pollster that could ever reach me
Was the son of a joiner man
“Prof Curtice and his team couldn’t do what they usually do, because the last referendum to compare today’s with was 41 years ago – and there wasn’t an exit poll then. There is, therefore, no baseline against which to measure how people have voted this time.
Some estimates have been made, extrapolating from opinion poll questions, of how pro- or anti-EU various places in the UK are. These will be useful on Friday morning for judging the significance of the early results. Chris Hanretty of the University of East Anglia estimates that if Leave is six percentage points ahead in Sunderland, expected to be one of the first councils to declare, that would mean the national vote is close.
YouGov has also produced a map of the UK showing how Eurosceptic the country is by parliamentary constituency.
But such estimates are not accurate enough to base an exit poll on, so the broadcasters decided not to go to the expense of commissioning one.”
Meanwhile, we on PB had @Andy_JS and his spreadsheet. Andy I still owe you a few beers should we ever meet.
Interesting that when the 2017 exit poll came out, instinctively I thought that if it was going to be wrong, it wouldn’t be wrong in the Tories’ favour.
Like they were speaking directly to me.
The video that I searched for that it preceded if that's any clue was Peter Tosh's live version of Johnny B Goode. Make of that what you will.
Another error by @Leon
Does he ever get anything right?
He would have been him if he had been a milkman, an accountant or a king.
So the whole “my father was a toolmaker” stuff is irrelevant - there have been arsehole toolmakers and arsehole people with other jobs.
Featured an ex-serviceman, a grandmother, and a black guy. Plus someone having cancer treatment which was a bit de trop but if he wanted to do it....
For max drama, the ideal situation might be something like the electronic counting system used in Scotland, modified to have a minimum half hour gap between each round.
You'd still have the race to get the ballot boxes to the count, and then to verify. First round results would start coming through from around 2300, and most counts would complete in the 0100-0400 timeframe as we see now... but there'd be oh so many more twists and turns for us to get our teeth into along the way.
This really does sometimes happen but you really have to be careful and you also have to watch out for people deliberately feeding false information to spike, or spook, the markets.
My best ever betting night came in the last US Presidential election on the Spreads. When the first Florida results came through the market went nuts: people traded out of Biden and massively onto Trump. It was incredible to watch.
So I came in and bet against the market
Why so?
Because if you drilled down into the subsets, the Florida result was driven by Hispanics and they weren’t going to decide the eventual outcome of the Presidential race. The people who would lay upstate in Florida’s suburbs and they were showing a c.2.5% swing from Republican to Democrat (ref baseline of Hillary Clinton obvs).
I knew that if replicated in the swing states further north, that 2.5% movement would be enough to clinch Biden the Presidency.
So I went in big on the Spreads and made the most I’ve ever made in betting. Nerve-wracking and thrilling night.
But I still wouldn’t bet against the exit poll.
https://election.indylive.radio/results/?fbclid=IwAR3hLmZ3K2oY15QNr2acgnfJjlYWDN_aLoIbia9sB4kDhW3zkvzOGJ7KMdM
What a lovely man he sounded. Did the kid make it?
Footie time for me now.
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The good thing about the exit poll is it doesn't have to worry about Don't Knows and Won't Votes or Prefer Not to Say or whatever.It should be accurate on that basis. The 2019 exit poll was effectively an MRP - a forecast of seats based on the poll.
It underestinated Labour and overestimated both Conservative and SNP seats.
Anyway, of far greater import, I can now announce the REAL REASON Sunak called a General Election for July 4th.
This will be the fourth successive GE where I will be voting by post as Mrs Stodge and I are on holiday on Polling Day.
In 2015, we were in Las Vegas, in 2017 Zante, in 2019 Tenerife and this time the Isle of Man.
Or have they resigned themselves to their fate? (Or think it unhelpful?)
The last hope, the forlorn hope of Tory MPs, will probably need those who were saying they would vote reform to either change their minds and stick to nurse in the cool of the voting booth or to decide that as they hate everyone they aren’t going to bother voting.
No-ones saying anything, no verbals.
The exit poll will give the NEV but the model they then use to work out the projected seats will probably be flawed.
Or, they're numb
That suggests Farage won't convince the core older vote so I think it's Con eat Ref or they both go down