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Sunak is just like the Grand Old Duke of York? – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,162
edited June 8 in General
Sunak is just like the Grand Old Duke of York? – politicalbetting.com

There is Cabinet meeting this afternoon and lots of talk in Whitehall that announcement will come afterSilence from the centreSome say July 4. But intriguing suggestion from some that the date set may be after the summer. Or even reshuffleBut something is definitely up https://t.co/ZdgMrYBbsl

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  • megasaurmegasaur Posts: 586
    He was a friend of Epstein?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,628
    If it's the Fourth of July, will we get some embarrassing attempt to appropriate Independence Day as a campaign theme?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716
    Close to green on the date of GE market. If july drops just a tad more I am greening out.

    Thanks Sunak!! :smile:
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    rottenborough said:

    Close to green on the date of GE market. If july drops just a tad more I am greening out.

    Thanks Sunak!! :smile:

    You followed my tip, that is the route to profits.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,377
    PMQs may actually be interesting today, as I assume Starmer will test the GE rumours.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,152
    edited May 22
    Sixth Sick Sheikh's Sixth Sheep's Sick.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    rottenborough said:

    Close to green on the date of GE market. If july drops just a tad more I am greening out.

    Thanks Sunak!! :smile:

    You followed my tip, that is the route to profits.
    Modest as ever.
  • megasaurmegasaur Posts: 586
    edited May 22
    Doh
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    “The drama is threatening to set the Tory tinder box ablaze, with MPs telling MailOnline that Mr Sunak has a 'death wish' and the Parliamentary party will go 'nuts' if he tries to call an election.

    There are claims that 1922 chair Graham Brady is now accepting texts voicing no confidence in the leader.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13446507/Could-Rishi-Sunak-call-snap-election-TODAY-Frantic-rumours-sweep-Westminster-PM-pull-trigger-inflation-falls-despite-trailing-far-Labour-polls.html

    Excuse me while I go to crisis horde popcorn…
  • Clutch_BromptonClutch_Brompton Posts: 737
    Great link to the Hacker clip - but what is the logic of a July electon? Especially when Mr Sunak explicitly ruled it out a week ago.

    I bow to few in the strength of my belief in No 10 uselessness and f-wittery but this would just be ludicrous
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716
    Wow. What a question. Basically - how come you can only remember things that get you out of the hole a bit?
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    david_herdson said:

    Really don't see it. The Tories are still about 20 points behind in the polls and CCHQ / No 10 can point a credible path to some form of recovery over the summer, as inflation and interest rates ease a bit. You do not call an election you'll get hammered in if things might get better by waiting.

    (That last point changes in the autumn / winter, as the potential for waiting shortens from quarters to months to weeks, and the downside of waiting - disruption over Xmas, being accused of squatting in No 10, taking repeated hits in the Commons with nothing to do - increase)

    But who knows. Sunak wouldn't be the first leader to misinterpret or selectively filter the evidence.

    I never thought of an appropriate name for the rule, but it is axiomatic that Sunak will choose the worst option from any given range of political choices.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    edited May 22
    "You have no problem recalling things which attribute blame to others..."

    Bullseye.

    I've several times noted that this is characteristic of almost every witness regarding exculpatory versus inconvenient information.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,152
    What happens to the Police wotsit wotsit wotsit Bill if we get a General Election for July 4th?
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,989
    I speculated this morning that the Tories have had a few relatively disaster-free weeks (give and take the odd defection and terrible results in the locals), so it's surely time for a fresh PR catastrophe.

    Looks like I may get what I asked for. Timdamus.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    rottenborough said:

    Wow. What a question. Basically - how come you can only remember things that get you out of the hole a bit?

    He has a way of asking brutal questions in a calm, civilised, even beguiling way.

    I think my wife must have tutored him.
    Are you often in tears ?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,152
    edited May 22
    For @TSE FPT:
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    How did I miss this?

    Paula Vennells: Ex-Post Office boss was shortlisted to be Bishop of London

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67923190.amp

    You don't read the comments at PB? :smile:

    We've mentioned it several times.

    She wasn't in with much of a chance - most complex Bishopric in England, no Episcopal experience, and up against a former Chief Nursing Officer of England.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,315
    edited May 22
    Well, something’s up: Alex Davies-Jones MP @AlexDaviesJones Have very annoyingly had a longstanding meeting with a Minister- that was scheduled for this afternoon - cancelled!😡

    Alex Davies-Jones MP
    @AlexDaviesJones
    Have very annoyingly had a longstanding meeting with a Minister- that was scheduled for this afternoon - cancelled!😡

    https://x.com/AlexDaviesJones/status/1793227483967340581
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,127
    Has any Tory outrider posted a 'shortly there will be an election' blog?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716
    Clutch_Brompton said:

    Great link to the Hacker clip - but what is the logic of a July electon? Especially when Mr Sunak explicitly ruled it out a week ago.

    I bow to few in the strength of my belief in No 10 uselessness and f-wittery but this would just be ludicrous

    Another PR and political tactic mess could well be afoot. Let press speculate all day that there is an announcement at 5pm of a call to GE.

    Then do a presser wittering on about how inflation has come down.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,628
    Charles is at Buckingham Palace.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    .
    Clutch_Brompton said:

    Great link to the Hacker clip - but what is the logic of a July electon? Especially when Mr Sunak explicitly ruled it out a week ago.

    I bow to few in the strength of my belief in No 10 uselessness and f-wittery but this would just be ludicrous

    That doesn't rule it out, of course.

    (Paul Eddington was marvellous.)
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716
    "Did you know that sub-posties were suffering?"

    "That's a difficult question to answer."

    Jeez.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    Ministers have been told to attend cabinet at 4pm on pain of death. They have not been told what they will be discussing 🤣 Today is the final day the election could be called for June 27. Given that Sunak has said it will be in the second half of the year, July is more likely

    https://x.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1793234507291574525
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,315
    What is it with image uploads & vanilla? The thumbnailing appears to have gone beserk.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ministers have been told to attend cabinet at 4pm on pain of death. They have not been told what they will be discussing 🤣 Today is the final day the election could be called for June 27. Given that Sunak has said it will be in the second half of the year, July is more likely

    https://x.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1793234507291574525

    "pain of death"

    Must be something really important like a new strategy for AI.

  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,324
    MattW said:

    For @TSE FPT:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    How did I miss this?

    Paula Vennells: Ex-Post Office boss was shortlisted to be Bishop of London

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67923190.amp

    You don't read the comments at PB? :smile:

    We've mentioned it several times.

    She wasn't in with much of a chance - most complex Bishopric in England, no Episcopal experience, and up against a former Chief Nursing Officer of England.
    You are surely not suggesting they select on merit? How odd.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,127
    williamglenn said:

    Charles is at Buckingham Palace.

    The ducks are increasingly lining up.

    If Sunak tries this, I wouldn't be surprised if there is at least an attempt to oust him this afternoon.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075
    MattW said:

    Sixth Sick Sheikh's Sixth Sheep's Sick.

    Thorry. :)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    Phil said:

    What is it with image uploads & vanilla? The thumbnailing appears to have gone beserk.

    We're working on a fix.

    In short PBers are posting too many pics and it is causing rendering issues.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,127
    rottenborough said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ministers have been told to attend cabinet at 4pm on pain of death. They have not been told what they will be discussing 🤣 Today is the final day the election could be called for June 27. Given that Sunak has said it will be in the second half of the year, July is more likely

    https://x.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1793234507291574525

    "pain of death"

    Must be something really important like a new strategy for AI.

    Haahaha
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,386
    rottenborough said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ministers have been told to attend cabinet at 4pm on pain of death. They have not been told what they will be discussing 🤣 Today is the final day the election could be called for June 27. Given that Sunak has said it will be in the second half of the year, July is more likely

    https://x.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1793234507291574525

    "pain of death"

    Must be something really important like a new strategy for AI.

    He does Excel at computer stuff.
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,457
    This 'duty of candour' line of questioning at PMQs is a big change from the norm - I wonder if SKS is up to something...
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,744
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ministers have been told to attend cabinet at 4pm on pain of death. They have not been told what they will be discussing 🤣 Today is the final day the election could be called for June 27. Given that Sunak has said it will be in the second half of the year, July is more likely

    https://x.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1793234507291574525

    I thought the last day for that was yesterday? There's a bank holiday between now and June 27, and doesn't the 'date of receipt' count as the day after dissolution?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,361
    edited May 22
    "Lack of openness and candour" - that has to be a prelude to a question about the election date, though could also be a great many things, like plans for Thames Water.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716
    Mortimer said:

    williamglenn said:

    Charles is at Buckingham Palace.

    The ducks are increasingly lining up.

    If Sunak tries this, I wouldn't be surprised if there is at least an attempt to oust him this afternoon.
    If he gets to the Palace before the no conference vote he can pull it off.

  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,056
    If we have an election soon, what happens to the Post Office (Horizon System) Offences Bill? Will it be abandoned?
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    Mortimer said:

    williamglenn said:

    Charles is at Buckingham Palace.

    The ducks are increasingly lining up.

    If Sunak tries this, I wouldn't be surprised if there is at least an attempt to oust him this afternoon.
    Starting an election campaign by trying to oust the PM would not make it easier or more likely for Tory MPs to retain their seats.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,361
    Phil said:

    What is it with image uploads & vanilla? The thumbnailing appears to have gone beserk.

    I presume vanilla don't want the cost of hosting the images and providing the bandwidth for people to see them. I've started hosting them elsewhere and linking with html instead.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    "The ducks are increasingly lining up."

    Do you have a sauce?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    Been at the Met Police briefing on Grenfell investigation:

    - Charging files will not go to prosecutors until 2026
    - Decision on charges not until end of 2026
    - Trials will not start for at least six months after that

    Will be over a decade after fire before anyone is in court

    https://x.com/PeteApps/status/1793233103978217700
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,034
    AlsoLei said:

    This 'duty of candour' line of questioning at PMQs is a big change from the norm - I wonder if SKS is up to something...

    It is good to see grown up politics
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,744
    bondegezou said:

    If we have an election soon, what happens to the Post Office (Horizon System) Offences Bill? Will it be abandoned?

    Either that or it could be rushed through before dissolution. Being re-introduced immediately in the new parliament the more likely though, I'd have thought.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716
    david_herdson said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ministers have been told to attend cabinet at 4pm on pain of death. They have not been told what they will be discussing 🤣 Today is the final day the election could be called for June 27. Given that Sunak has said it will be in the second half of the year, July is more likely

    https://x.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1793234507291574525

    I thought the last day for that was yesterday? There's a bank holiday between now and June 27, and doesn't the 'date of receipt' count as the day after dissolution?
    Dissolution has to be today for 27th June
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,744
    rottenborough said:

    Mortimer said:

    williamglenn said:

    Charles is at Buckingham Palace.

    The ducks are increasingly lining up.

    If Sunak tries this, I wouldn't be surprised if there is at least an attempt to oust him this afternoon.
    If he gets to the Palace before the no conference vote he can pull it off.

    A No Conference vote would be an October election, wouldn't it?
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,019
    bondegezou said:

    If we have an election soon, what happens to the Post Office (Horizon System) Offences Bill? Will it be abandoned?

    Bills can't be carried over between parliaments .

    https://guidetoprocedure.parliament.uk/articles/L6fZa1ZF/carrying-bills-over-to-another-session
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,034
    edited May 22
    Mortimer said:

    williamglenn said:

    Charles is at Buckingham Palace.

    The ducks are increasingly lining up.

    If Sunak tries this, I wouldn't be surprised if there is at least an attempt to oust him this afternoon.
    If the cabinet agree and he attends the King then there is nothing the mps can do to prevent the GE
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,324
    rottenborough said:

    "Did you know that sub-posties were suffering?"

    "That's a difficult question to answer."

    Jeez.

    One has the impression of a person lacking in compassion, although not for herself. You can see how a leader of that kind could encourage atrocious behavior amongst subordinates.

    History is replete with examples.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716
    david_herdson said:

    rottenborough said:

    Mortimer said:

    williamglenn said:

    Charles is at Buckingham Palace.

    The ducks are increasingly lining up.

    If Sunak tries this, I wouldn't be surprised if there is at least an attempt to oust him this afternoon.
    If he gets to the Palace before the no conference vote he can pull it off.

    A No Conference vote would be an October election, wouldn't it?
    Who knows anymore!!!
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786
    Andy_JS said:

    "The ducks are increasingly lining up."

    Do you have a sauce?

    Orange I expect
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    MattW said:

    For @TSE FPT:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    How did I miss this?

    Paula Vennells: Ex-Post Office boss was shortlisted to be Bishop of London

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67923190.amp

    You don't read the comments at PB? :smile:

    We've mentioned it several times.

    She wasn't in with much of a chance - most complex Bishopric in England, no Episcopal experience, and up against a former Chief Nursing Officer of England.
    I have a fever at the moment, all I can remember at the moment is my own brilliance and illness.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,315
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Phil said:

    What is it with image uploads & vanilla? The thumbnailing appears to have gone beserk.

    We're working on a fix.

    In short PBers are posting too many pics and it is causing rendering issues.
    Can you turn it off in the short term? Accidentally inflicting blurry blobs on everyone is a bit unfortunate!
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,457
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    AlsoLei said:

    This 'duty of candour' line of questioning at PMQs is a big change from the norm - I wonder if SKS is up to something...

    It is good to see grown up politics
    Made for a deeply weird atmosphere - six serious questions on a substantive issue.

    Danny Kruger now bringing us all back down to earth with a bump, though...
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,822
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Been at the Met Police briefing on Grenfell investigation:

    - Charging files will not go to prosecutors until 2026
    - Decision on charges not until end of 2026
    - Trials will not start for at least six months after that

    Will be over a decade after fire before anyone is in court

    https://x.com/PeteApps/status/1793233103978217700

    Where can I place a bet that the people responsible will have selective amnesia by that time?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,928
    edited May 22
    Andy_JS said:

    "The ducks are increasingly lining up."

    Do you have a sauce?

    Would you like hoisin or something else? ;)
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,056
    edited May 22
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Phil said:

    What is it with image uploads & vanilla? The thumbnailing appears to have gone beserk.

    We're working on a fix.

    In short PBers are posting too many pics and it is causing rendering issues.
    One imagines that the distribution of number of pics posted by PBer is very skewed.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639
    Rishi has just ruled out 27 June. But not 4 July...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    bondegezou said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Phil said:

    What is it with image uploads & vanilla? The thumbnailing appears to have gone beserk.

    We're working on a fix.

    In short PBers are posting too many pics and it is causing rendering issues.
    One imagines that the distribution of number of pics posted by PBer is very skewed.
    Indeed.

    We're looking at one embedded pic per calendar day limit per poster.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    edited May 22
    londonpubman said:

    Rishi has just ruled out 27 June. But not 4 July...

    Couldn't stop grinning either. Date will be announced today, but still could be confirmation of an Autumn date
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,497
    david_herdson said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ministers have been told to attend cabinet at 4pm on pain of death. They have not been told what they will be discussing 🤣 Today is the final day the election could be called for June 27. Given that Sunak has said it will be in the second half of the year, July is more likely

    https://x.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1793234507291574525

    I thought the last day for that was yesterday? There's a bank holiday between now and June 27, and doesn't the 'date of receipt' count as the day after dissolution?
    Yes. Dissolution (not calling an election) would have to be today, to allow for the Bank Holiday, which isn't going to happen.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,717
    williamglenn said:

    Charles is at Buckingham Palace.

    and they're changing guards, says Alice

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    rottenborough said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    bondegezou said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Phil said:

    What is it with image uploads & vanilla? The thumbnailing appears to have gone beserk.

    We're working on a fix.

    In short PBers are posting too many pics and it is causing rendering issues.
    One imagines that the distribution of number of pics posted by PBer is very skewed.
    Indeed.

    We're looking at one embedded pic per calendar day limit per poster.
    Can we sell our quota?
    No.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075
    londonpubman said:

    Rishi has just ruled out 27 June. But not 4 July...

    Where/when did he rule out 27 June?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,822
    kjh said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "The ducks are increasingly lining up."

    Do you have a sauce?

    Orange I expect
    Duck surprise?
  • NickyBreakspearNickyBreakspear Posts: 774
    Before the general election the Finance (No. 2) Bill needs to be enacted (otherwise no Income Tax can be collected for this tax year).

    So the election will not be 27th June.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639
    viewcode said:

    londonpubman said:

    Rishi has just ruled out 27 June. But not 4 July...

    Where/when did he rule out 27 June?
    Just
    viewcode said:

    londonpubman said:

    Rishi has just ruled out 27 June. But not 4 July...

    Where/when did he rule out 27 June?
    Just now in PMQs in response to Stephen Flynn. He said it would be in the second half of this year.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,324
    rottenborough said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    bondegezou said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Phil said:

    What is it with image uploads & vanilla? The thumbnailing appears to have gone beserk.

    We're working on a fix.

    In short PBers are posting too many pics and it is causing rendering issues.
    One imagines that the distribution of number of pics posted by PBer is very skewed.
    Indeed.

    We're looking at one embedded pic per calendar day limit per poster.
    Can we sell our quota?
    Ooh, goodie - a black market!
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,056
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9xxyl3gp39o

    “Katy, now 18, is one of thousands of children in England and Wales - at least one as young as seven - to have been placed under what are known as Deprivation of Liberty (DoL) orders.
    The BBC has interviewed several young people who were subject to DoLs and are now speaking publicly about their experiences for the first time.“
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,497
    wooliedyed said:

    londonpubman said:

    Rishi has just ruled out 27 June. But not 4 July...

    Couldn't stop grinning either. Date will be announced today, but still could be confirmation of an Autumn date
    FWIW my (minority) view that the GE would be in September was on the basis that it would announced before the summer holidays, with dissolution in August. In this way Sunak could take everyone by surprise, avoid entanglement with the triumph of Trump, and have a long time for unsuccessfully getting us to vote Tory while he himself is in practice beyond being replaced.

    Still not impossible that this is something like the case.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,056
    Jeffrey Donaldson not standing at next election
  • megasaurmegasaur Posts: 586
    Mortimer said:

    williamglenn said:

    Charles is at Buckingham Palace.

    The ducks are increasingly lining up.

    If Sunak tries this, I wouldn't be surprised if there is at least an attempt to oust him this afternoon.
    You can't oust him that quick. You could I suppose appeal to his sense of decency and say he is morally obliged to leave office as an informal fix with the men in grey suits seeing as that's how he got it. Good luck with that

    My reading is Sunak wants to hold on as long as possible for something to turn up. Everyone else wants him out and as long as possible for his successor to turn things round. He is bluffing and saying you back down or I detonate the July hand grenade.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,822
    NickyBreakspear said:

    Before the general election the Finance (No. 2) Bill needs to be enacted (otherwise no Income Tax can be collected for this tax year).

    So the election will not be 27th June.

    If Labour are going to win anyway not make it tough for them?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    edited May 22
    I predict parliament will dissolve May 30th or June 4th for a July 11th election. He'll recall them from Whitsun to wash up.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,324
    Jeepers,she's being destroyed.

    It's like watching a slow-motion car crash. Not sure I can watch much more.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,822
    bondegezou said:

    Jeffrey Donaldson not standing at next election

    Is he the sitting MP?
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,665
    Ms Vennels now claiming she didn't know that the PO was bringing the prosecutions. Chair clearly doesn't believe a word of it.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,354
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Been at the Met Police briefing on Grenfell investigation:

    - Charging files will not go to prosecutors until 2026
    - Decision on charges not until end of 2026
    - Trials will not start for at least six months after that

    Will be over a decade after fire before anyone is in court

    https://x.com/PeteApps/status/1793233103978217700

    But no doubt "Lessons will be learned."
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,056
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    I stopped watching. She may deserve it, but too painful for me to watch!
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,324
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    Sir Wyn Nice-Oldthingbutmygodi'mbloodysharp.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,744
    londonpubman said:

    viewcode said:

    londonpubman said:

    Rishi has just ruled out 27 June. But not 4 July...

    Where/when did he rule out 27 June?
    Just
    viewcode said:

    londonpubman said:

    Rishi has just ruled out 27 June. But not 4 July...

    Where/when did he rule out 27 June?
    Just now in PMQs in response to Stephen Flynn. He said it would be in the second half of this year.
    Although as noted above, July 4 is in the second half (and more realistic even if dissolution was announced today).

    But at least as notable is that the above quote also rules out January 2025.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    bondegezou said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Phil said:

    What is it with image uploads & vanilla? The thumbnailing appears to have gone beserk.

    We're working on a fix.

    In short PBers are posting too many pics and it is causing rendering issues.
    One imagines that the distribution of number of pics posted by PBer is very skewed.
    Indeed.

    We're looking at one embedded pic per calendar day limit per poster.
    Set up a pb instagram page and then people can just put a link to the pictures there and save space on the site.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,034
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    Sir Wyn Nice-Oldthingbutmygodi'mbloodysharp.
    He is also a credit to Wales
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239
    The court is openly laughing at Vennells now.
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,385
    megasaur said:

    He was a friend of Epstein?

    Or Dorothy ?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    Sir Wyn Nice-Oldthingbutmygodi'mbloodysharp.
    Today has shown why lawyers are the best of humanity.

    Sir Wyn and Jason Beer have gently destroyed Paula Vennell's arguments.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,386
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    Sir Wyn Nice-Oldthingbutmygodi'mbloodysharp.
    He is also a credit to Wales
    Like all good whales, he blow hole in Paula Vennells' credibility.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    bondegezou said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    I stopped watching. She may deserve it, but too painful for me to watch!
    My suggestion for the general election debates.

    Moderator - Sir Wyn Williams

    Questioner - Jason Beer KC
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,354
    david_herdson said:

    londonpubman said:

    viewcode said:

    londonpubman said:

    Rishi has just ruled out 27 June. But not 4 July...

    Where/when did he rule out 27 June?
    Just
    viewcode said:

    londonpubman said:

    Rishi has just ruled out 27 June. But not 4 July...

    Where/when did he rule out 27 June?
    Just now in PMQs in response to Stephen Flynn. He said it would be in the second half of this year.
    Although as noted above, July 4 is in the second half (and more realistic even if dissolution was announced today).

    But at least as notable is that the above quote also rules out January 2025.
    It's hard to see the rationale for July 4th.
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,457
    noneoftheabove said:

    bondegezou said:

    Jeffrey Donaldson not standing at next election

    Is he the sitting MP?
    Astonishingly, yes. Still out on bail, with a committal hearing due in early July.

    I wouldn't expect him to be showing up for work any time soon, mind.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,324
    bondegezou said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    I stopped watching. She may deserve it, but too painful for me to watch!
    Yup, me too. I sincerely hope someone has her on suicide watch.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,056
    noneoftheabove said:

    bondegezou said:

    Jeffrey Donaldson not standing at next election

    Is he the sitting MP?
    Yes, he is the current MP for Lagan Valley, which will be an Alliance target at the general.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,354
    Taz said:

    bondegezou said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sir Wyn's not believing Paula Vennell's bullshit is he?

    I stopped watching. She may deserve it, but too painful for me to watch!
    F*ck her. People lost their homes, livelihoods and lives because of her and her fellow Senior managers.

    This may be painful for her. The pain her victims have endured has gone on for many years and STILL no restitution.
    Has she said "I'm the real victim here."
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,862
    NickyBreakspear said:

    Before the general election the Finance (No. 2) Bill needs to be enacted (otherwise no Income Tax can be collected for this tax year).

    .

    The biggest of landmines for the next lot ..
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    noneoftheabove said:

    kjh said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "The ducks are increasingly lining up."

    Do you have a sauce?

    Orange I expect
    Duck surprise?
    Showing a grebe-ous disregard for electoral precedent, that's for sure.
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