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  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,549

    Carnyx said:

    kle4 said:

    Donkeys said:

    A quick note on Islam and babies: Islam teaches that all human beings are born Muslims (in a "state of purity") and that it is the influence on them by parents who follow another religion or who are atheists that makes them into non-Muslims in later life. It is an extreme crime according to Islam to murder any baby.

    FGM isn’t Islamic either. Some Muslims do it, but the vast majority don’t.
    It is barbarism for religious fanatics of all stripes. It was advocated strongly by Dr Kellogg.

    image
    Yes, something about extremism suddenly causes people to be obsessed with interferring with others' genitals. Not sure if that carries through to all types of extremism or if it is naturally more prevalent among religious obsessives.
    I'd b e happier if that quote was properly documented to an original source, all the same, even if it's not untypical of physicians of a certain era.
    I don't know about that original quote, but the Kelloggs story is quite an amazing one - I listened to a podcast on it once. From memory, there were two Kellogs brothers; One ran a religious sanitorium, and created a breakfast cereal for the guests. This was a massive change from the 'usual' breakfast foods or oats, but he refused to sell it to anyone who was not of the religion.

    His brother used the recipe and set up a rival Kelloggs company that would sell to anyone (yes, they were both called Kelloggs), which became massive. As it happens, others in the same town started making breakfast cereals at the same time, and one of these was my favourite - Grape Nuts, invented by an ex-patient of the sanitorium.

    Given the religious context, I can believe the quote...
    "His development of a bland diet was driven in part by the Adventist goal of reducing sexual stimulation.[37]"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg
    Made into a book and film, "The Road To Wellville" in the 1990s. Was given a copy by some well-meaning (but easily confused) friends whilst detained at the NHS's pleasure.
    Talking of being detailed in the NHS; three men were sitting at the back of the A&E waiting room early this morning. The one in the middle was a largish man in grey tracksuit-style attire. The two men in uniforms on either side of him appeared utterly bored. Long, shiny chains connected the two men in uniforms to their prisoner.

    I don't think any of them wanted to be there at five on a Saturday morning...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,814
    Heathener said:

    What a brilliant win by Emma Raducanu. Britain into the finals.

    Yay!

    [Vic Reeves voice] RADUCANU!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,061
    "Blue hydrogen" is even more unjustifiable economically.
    It's effectively government subsiding the mass production of a product for which there isn't a demand beyond the existing market, in the hope of creating one.

    And the cost of production, while for now substantially cheaper than 'green hydrogen' (produced by electrolysis of water, is both subject to commodity prices, and technologically unlikely to fall much.
    Whereas ghee's a great deal of headrooom to improve the efficiency and capital cost of bulk electrolysis.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,814
    edited April 13
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    You can buy vegan no-chicken Chicken Kyivs!

    image
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,620
    Disappointed none of you picked up on my subtle Lord of the Rings reference in the morning thread.

    Call yourselves geeks, you should be ashamed.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,814

    Disappointed none of you picked up on my subtle Lord of the Rings reference in the morning thread.

    Call yourselves geeks, you should be ashamed.

    If you're explaining, you're losing! :lol:
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,354

    Disappointed none of you picked up on my subtle Lord of the Rings reference in the morning thread.

    Call yourselves geeks, you should be ashamed.

    I do not understand it.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited April 13
    In 2018, Stonewall literally told schools to shred a research pack saying there were risks to puberty blockers. "We, in the strongest possible terms, denounce and condemn this publication. If it lands on your desk, do the right thing: shred it.” 1/3

    In 2022 Stonewall told the world that 'research' suggests two year olds can be trans. It advocated for nurseries - NURSERIES - to start teaching kids that there are more genders than boy and girl. 2/3

    Politicians have snuggled up to Stonewall and Mermaids, given them privileged places at the table and adopted their talking points, to the detriment of very vulnerable children, young people and women. When are we going to see this fully investigated? When will this end? 3/X

    https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1779090482393493508?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    ydoethur said:

    Donkeys said:

    A quick note on Islam and babies: Islam teaches that all human beings are born Muslims (in a "state of purity") and that it is the influence on them by parents who follow another religion or who are atheists that makes them into non-Muslims in later life. It is an extreme crime according to Islam to murder any baby.

    FGM isn’t Islamic either. Some Muslims do it, but the vast majority don’t.
    It is barbarism for religious fanatics of all stripes. It was advocated strongly by Dr Kellogg.

    image
    I think his views deserve a Frostie reception.
    Can recall being urged (urgently by the Kellogg Co.) back in the Dark Ages of late 20th century, to:

    "Eat your Wheaties - look what Wheaties did for Bruce Jenner!"
    "For all intents and purposes, I'm a woman." - Caitlyn Jenner
    NOT what I recall seeing on Wheaties boxes. Perhaps in the (very) fine print?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,549
    edited April 13
    Evening PBers, whether in the UK or elsewhere.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,747
    ydoethur said:

    Disappointed none of you picked up on my subtle Lord of the Rings reference in the morning thread.

    Call yourselves geeks, you should be ashamed.

    I do not understand it.
    Nor did I, but Google is Your Friend.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,354
    Chris said:

    ydoethur said:

    Disappointed none of you picked up on my subtle Lord of the Rings reference in the morning thread.

    Call yourselves geeks, you should be ashamed.

    I do not understand it.
    Nor did I, but Google is Your Friend.
    That was a reference to the same quotation...
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    He should compromise on November, I said entirely disinterestly..

    November 28th would be a good compromise. 👍
    I am happy for it to be in November

    Leicester promotion favourites once again? 😈
    Ipswich have to be most likely, but I think we have the advantage on Leeds.

    It's a bit comedy to everyone but fans.
    Really poor result for Leeds today. And I think it is still in your hands.
    The scale of choking from the top three in the Championship is utterly risible. Nobody wants to go up, with good reason.

    Just above, Forest will be the best side since Leicester last year to get relegated 😞
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,061
    Chris said:

    ydoethur said:

    Disappointed none of you picked up on my subtle Lord of the Rings reference in the morning thread.

    Call yourselves geeks, you should be ashamed.

    I do not understand it.
    Nor did I, but Google is Your Friend.
    I never saw TSE as Galadriel, but I'm prepared to consider him in that light.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,747
    Incidentally, I hadn't been expecting to be able to vote against Laurence Fox, but in fact he did manage to get on to one of the London ballot papers, so I was able to.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    isam said:

    In 2018, Stonewall literally told schools to shred a research pack saying there were risks to puberty blockers. "We, in the strongest possible terms, denounce and condemn this publication. If it lands on your desk, do the right thing: shred it.” 1/3

    In 2022 Stonewall told the world that 'research' suggests two year olds can be trans. It advocated for nurseries - NURSERIES - to start teaching kids that there are more genders than boy and girl. 2/3

    Politicians have snuggled up to Stonewall and Mermaids, given them privileged places at the table and adopted their talking points, to the detriment of very vulnerable children, young people and women. When are we going to see this fully investigated? When will this end? 3/X

    https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1779090482393493508?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    I love the sound of ANGRY JK in the morning. It is the sound of victory
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,129

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    You can buy vegan no-chicken Chicken Kyivs!

    image
    If you use the right kitchen appliance, you can get irradiated vegan chicken kyev
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    Chris said:

    Incidentally, I hadn't been expecting to be able to vote against Laurence Fox, but in fact he did manage to get on to one of the London ballot papers, so I was able to.

    Cool. That’s my vote sorted as well
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,620
    I can confirm Larry the Cat liked me.

    [Liz Truss] said that the [10 Downing Street] flat was infested in fleas. “Some claimed that this was down to Boris and Carrie’s dog Dilyn, but there was no conclusive evidence,” she said. “In any case, the entire place had to be sprayed with flea killer. I spent several weeks itching.”

    She said the Downing Street flat was “really noisy” with the “constant backdrop” of changing and protests.

    The “saving grace” of living there, she said, was Larry the cat. “He’s a lovely character and seems to take a liking and disliking to all the right people.”


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liz-truss-i-felt-like-a-prisoner-in-flea-infested-downing-street-flat-pb8b7ljhs
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,620
    Nigelb said:

    Chris said:

    ydoethur said:

    Disappointed none of you picked up on my subtle Lord of the Rings reference in the morning thread.

    Call yourselves geeks, you should be ashamed.

    I do not understand it.
    Nor did I, but Google is Your Friend.
    I never saw TSE as Galadriel, but I'm prepared to consider him in that light.
    She said it in the films but it was Treebeard who said it in the books.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,128
    How much extra pension does the PM get after 2 years, not 1.5 years?

    I know there's the lifetime allowance and so on.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,758
    MattW said:

    How much extra pension does the PM get after 2 years, not 1.5 years?

    I know there's the lifetime allowance and so on.

    There's always the chance that something good might happen. Sunak knows he'll never have any political office ever again, he knows that he'll be seen as a clown, but if he holds on it's hardly likely to be worse.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,700
    Leon said:

    isam said:

    In 2018, Stonewall literally told schools to shred a research pack saying there were risks to puberty blockers. "We, in the strongest possible terms, denounce and condemn this publication. If it lands on your desk, do the right thing: shred it.” 1/3

    In 2022 Stonewall told the world that 'research' suggests two year olds can be trans. It advocated for nurseries - NURSERIES - to start teaching kids that there are more genders than boy and girl. 2/3

    Politicians have snuggled up to Stonewall and Mermaids, given them privileged places at the table and adopted their talking points, to the detriment of very vulnerable children, young people and women. When are we going to see this fully investigated? When will this end? 3/X

    https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1779090482393493508?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    I love the sound of ANGRY JK in the morning. It is the sound of victory
    The inevitable public inquiry into this mess is going to be a belter.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    London buzzing on a sunny spring evening. Who would ever want to leave a city like this? Only mad losers
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,758
    Leon said:

    London buzzing on a sunny spring evening. Who would ever want to leave a city like this? Only mad losers

    When's the next trip?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    Omnium said:

    Leon said:

    London buzzing on a sunny spring evening. Who would ever want to leave a city like this? Only mad losers

    When's the next trip?
    About a week. Got a few coming up. Italy, France. Moldova. Canada. USA west roadtrip. Japan. Colombia. Turkey
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,128
    edited April 13

    December or January 2025 are quite likely.

    If he wants to go sooner then October would be better (still long, but before clocks change).

    I can't see any reason besides people's books why it'd be any other month.

    The more I think about it the more I think December makes sense.

    A full-term parliament makes sense, logically, it gives more time for recovery, and the shorter days and build up to Christmas rob Starmer somewhat of spotlight and campaign momentum.

    It wouldn't surprise me if it happened.
    December is what happens if nothing else happens- I'm working on the basis that not even Rishi would be dumb enough to have an election campaign that straddles Christmas.

    The only reasons to go sooner are if Something turns up that changes the political weather so that the PM can cut run and do well, or he has to press the nuclear MAD button to repel.internal critics. They both seem unlikely.

    So I expect him to hold off on the off chance that something turns up, even if it costs the post-election party an MP or two per week to do so.

    So December 19th it is.
    "Not even Rishi" is a Brobdingnagian hostage to fortune.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,700
    Tim Loughton MP 🇺🇦
    @timloughton
    Last night I informed the AGM of the East Worthing & Shoreham Conservative Association that I would not be standing as the Conservative candidate at the next General Election. This is my letter to the Association Chairman.

    https://twitter.com/timloughton/status/1779184539786514662?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet
  • Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    I thought Germany had the highest proportion in Europe these days ?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,354

    Donkeys said:

    A quick note on Islam and babies: Islam teaches that all human beings are born Muslims (in a "state of purity") and that it is the influence on them by parents who follow another religion or who are atheists that makes them into non-Muslims in later life. It is an extreme crime according to Islam to murder any baby.

    FGM isn’t Islamic either. Some Muslims do it, but the vast majority don’t.
    It is barbarism for religious fanatics of all stripes. It was advocated strongly by Dr Kellogg.

    image
    The world would be a much better place if people were brought up to consider a nice wank as a good thing. As important in its way as brushing your teeth, or washing your hands.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,627

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Lots of Vegan places when I was in Hamburg last year, and good quality too. As was the Vietnamese food too.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,627

    Donkeys said:

    A quick note on Islam and babies: Islam teaches that all human beings are born Muslims (in a "state of purity") and that it is the influence on them by parents who follow another religion or who are atheists that makes them into non-Muslims in later life. It is an extreme crime according to Islam to murder any baby.

    FGM isn’t Islamic either. Some Muslims do it, but the vast majority don’t.
    It is barbarism for religious fanatics of all stripes. It was advocated strongly by Dr Kellogg.

    image
    The world would be a much better place if people were brought up to consider a nice wank as a good thing. As important in its way as brushing your teeth, or washing your hands.
    Certainly hand washing afterwards is to be encouraged.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    Leon said:

    London buzzing on a sunny spring evening. Who would ever want to leave a city like this? Only mad losers

    LOL!

    You can take the troll out of London.

    But you can’t take London out of the troll.

    💪
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    edited April 13

    Leon said:

    London buzzing on a sunny spring evening. Who would ever want to leave a city like this? Only mad losers

    LOL!

    You can take the troll out of London.

    But you can’t take London out of the troll.

    💪
    Some ludicrous twat was banging on about “moving to Ibiza” earlier on. What are you gonna do there? Stare at ageing hippies on peyote all year?

    Halfwit
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,874

    Assuming these Conservative MPs do not actually want a Labour government, why agitate to get Keir Starmer into Downing Street earlier than necessary? There are 285 days to the general election, Thursday, 23rd January, 2025.

    You're not thinking fourth dimensionally here.
    I think you'll find the latest date is Tuesday 28th January 2025, and why not go out with a bang and into the history books by having a non-Thursday GE?
  • CleitophonCleitophon Posts: 480
    Tories don't want a summer election, but every week that passes brings reform closer and the labour majority grows.... this is like having a bad tooth. Yeah, the dentists is nasty, but it will only get worse... much much worse if you wait.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,549

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    This sort of claim seems easy to debunk, e.g. :
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/veganism-by-country
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1280066/global-country-ranking-vegan-share/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Prevalence_by_country

    That's hardly 'non-existent'.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,354

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,798
    edited April 13
    There are few things more depressing than watching this Man U team trying to play football. They are not a team. They have no shape or structure. They have forwards who find scoring impossibly difficult. They do not have a defence worthy of the name.

    How the mighty Bournemouth are only 1 goal ahead is a mystery wrapped in a conundrum.

    This is embarrassing. Daylight robbery.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814
    edited April 13

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    Quite right. Just look in the local food shop's fridge - all the lovely venison and pheasant.

    But in any case there are plenty of vegan cucumbers, and potatoes, and bananas, and so on, and so forth.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    London buzzing on a sunny spring evening. Who would ever want to leave a city like this? Only mad losers

    LOL!

    You can take the troll out of London.

    But you can’t take London out of the troll.

    💪
    Some ludicrous twat was banging on about “moving to Ibiza” earlier on. What are you gonna do there? Stare at ageing hippies on peyote all year?

    Halfwit
    LOL!!!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,627

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    This sort of claim seems easy to debunk, e.g. :
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/veganism-by-country
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1280066/global-country-ranking-vegan-share/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Prevalence_by_country

    That's hardly 'non-existent'.
    Not sure that I believe so many Poles are vegetarian. It seemed very pork heavy when I was there, albeit a decade ago.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,044
    Chris said:

    Incidentally, I hadn't been expecting to be able to vote against Laurence Fox, but in fact he did manage to get on to one of the London ballot papers, so I was able to.

    Yes, he has an Assembly list (of just himself), although he bollocksed up the paperwork, it seems, and so has no party description.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814
    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    This sort of claim seems easy to debunk, e.g. :
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/veganism-by-country
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1280066/global-country-ranking-vegan-share/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Prevalence_by_country

    That's hardly 'non-existent'.
    Not sure that I believe so many Poles are vegetarian. It seemed very pork heavy when I was there, albeit a decade ago.
    Wild boar would count as vegan. Or so one learns on PB.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    DavidL said:

    There are few things more depressing than watching this Man U team trying to play football. They are not a team. They have no shape or structure. They have forwards who find scoring impossibly difficult. They do not have a defence worthy of the name.

    How the mighty Bournemouth are only 1 goal ahead is a mystery wrapped in a conundrum.

    Hopefully Sky will soon decide to actually show golf on the other channel, rather a load of blokes talking about golf while there are guys out on the course. FFS.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,930
    edited April 13

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    I have black, muslim, Irish, Albanian and even Scottish neighbours. No problem with any of them. But I also have a vegan neighbour. 😱
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    This is genuinely good advice by the way. I think I’ve managed it every year since my late 30s. Apart from the years when desperately in love, and even then there’s an argument you should do (3) just to “keep your hand in”
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    I can confirm Larry the Cat liked me.

    [Liz Truss] said that the [10 Downing Street] flat was infested in fleas. “Some claimed that this was down to Boris and Carrie’s dog Dilyn, but there was no conclusive evidence,” she said. “In any case, the entire place had to be sprayed with flea killer. I spent several weeks itching.”

    She said the Downing Street flat was “really noisy” with the “constant backdrop” of changing and protests.

    The “saving grace” of living there, she said, was Larry the cat. “He’s a lovely character and seems to take a liking and disliking to all the right people.”


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liz-truss-i-felt-like-a-prisoner-in-flea-infested-downing-street-flat-pb8b7ljhs

    No need to blame a poor blameless mutt like Dylan for (alleged) No. 10 flea infestation.

    Obvious that Boris Johnson's (alleged) hairdo makes a VERY inviting environment for fleas, ticks, small lizards, etc., etc.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,798
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    This is genuinely good advice by the way. I think I’ve managed it every year since my late 30s. Apart from the years when desperately in love, and even then there’s an argument you should do (3) just to “keep your hand in”
    I'll maybe try it in the next 40 years but the last 40 have been fairly excellent thanks.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    edited April 13
    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    By "new woman" do you mean one that has just passed the age of consent or one who has been freshly minted from being a man?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,354
    edited April 13
    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    This sort of claim seems easy to debunk, e.g. :
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/veganism-by-country
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1280066/global-country-ranking-vegan-share/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Prevalence_by_country

    That's hardly 'non-existent'.
    Not sure that I believe so many Poles are vegetarian. It seemed very pork heavy when I was there, albeit a decade ago.
    Wild boar would count as vegan. Or so one learns on PB.
    Alternatively, vegans count as wild bores.

    Well, they do tend to rather go on about it.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,747

    I can confirm Larry the Cat liked me.

    [Liz Truss] said that the [10 Downing Street] flat was infested in fleas. “Some claimed that this was down to Boris and Carrie’s dog Dilyn, but there was no conclusive evidence,” she said. “In any case, the entire place had to be sprayed with flea killer. I spent several weeks itching.”

    She said the Downing Street flat was “really noisy” with the “constant backdrop” of changing and protests.

    The “saving grace” of living there, she said, was Larry the cat. “He’s a lovely character and seems to take a liking and disliking to all the right people.”


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liz-truss-i-felt-like-a-prisoner-in-flea-infested-downing-street-flat-pb8b7ljhs

    No doubt it's been done here already, but I thought it was interesting that Liz Truss's two-word comment on the death of the Queen included the word "me".
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814

    I can confirm Larry the Cat liked me.

    [Liz Truss] said that the [10 Downing Street] flat was infested in fleas. “Some claimed that this was down to Boris and Carrie’s dog Dilyn, but there was no conclusive evidence,” she said. “In any case, the entire place had to be sprayed with flea killer. I spent several weeks itching.”

    She said the Downing Street flat was “really noisy” with the “constant backdrop” of changing and protests.

    The “saving grace” of living there, she said, was Larry the cat. “He’s a lovely character and seems to take a liking and disliking to all the right people.”


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liz-truss-i-felt-like-a-prisoner-in-flea-infested-downing-street-flat-pb8b7ljhs

    No need to blame a poor blameless mutt like Dylan for (alleged) No. 10 flea infestation.

    Obvious that Boris Johnson's (alleged) hairdo makes a VERY inviting environment for fleas, ticks, small lizards, etc., etc.
    Far more likely to be from the moggy or pigeons than a dog.

    Typical cat, diverting the blame.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,627
    edited April 13

    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    By "new woman" do you mean one that has just passed the age of consent or one who has been freshly minted from being a man?
    It's all that time with Thai ladyboys that has given him the taste. He is just in denial, hence the forceful transphobia.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    edited April 13
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    This is genuinely good advice by the way. I think I’ve managed it every year since my late 30s. Apart from the years when desperately in love, and even then there’s an argument you should do (3) just to “keep your hand in”
    There was once a poster on here who wrote a published article on how to " keep your hand in".
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239

    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    By "new woman" do you mean one that has just passed the age of consent or one who has been freshly minted from being a man?
    Interesting. I think either would count
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814
    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    By "new woman" do you mean one that has just passed the age of consent or one who has been freshly minted from being a man?
    It's all that time with Thai ladyboys that has given him the taste. He is just in denial, hence the forceful transportation.
    Thought they were called ladyboys? There were always hundreds of posters up in Edinburgh every August advertising them (and probaby still are, but I no longer work in central Edinburgh so can avoid it at Festival time).
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,189
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    This is genuinely good advice by the way. I think I’ve managed it every year since my late 30s. Apart from the years when desperately in love, and even then there’s an argument you should do (3) just to “keep your hand in”
    Never mind desperately in love, just sounds desperate.

    Sad to see you back, I was hoping you'd "found some better place"
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,214
    Leon said:

    London buzzing on a sunny spring evening. Who would ever want to leave a city like this? Only mad losers

    Since you've said that, it seems to have clouded over.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    This sort of claim seems easy to debunk, e.g. :
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/veganism-by-country
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1280066/global-country-ranking-vegan-share/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Prevalence_by_country

    That's hardly 'non-existent'.
    Maybe you missed "most parts".

    And it's not a claim. It's fact.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,213
    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    This sort of claim seems easy to debunk, e.g. :
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/veganism-by-country
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1280066/global-country-ranking-vegan-share/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Prevalence_by_country

    That's hardly 'non-existent'.
    Not sure that I believe so many Poles are vegetarian. It seemed very pork heavy when I was there, albeit a decade ago.
    Wild boar would count as vegan. Or so one learns on PB.
    I thought it was venison?

    Sadly, it seems that the bird flu and rising costs killed the farm company that made the game pies for my local butcher. Proper big things - a foot in a diameter. Fed many a party with those. Gone now. Sob.

    The replacements they got in aren’t a quarter as good.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    kamski said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    This is genuinely good advice by the way. I think I’ve managed it every year since my late 30s. Apart from the years when desperately in love, and even then there’s an argument you should do (3) just to “keep your hand in”
    Never mind desperately in love, just sounds desperate.

    Sad to see you back, I was hoping you'd "found some better place"
    You do know I came back for JUST this reaction, don’t you?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,214

    Tories don't want a summer election, but every week that passes brings reform closer and the labour majority grows.... this is like having a bad tooth. Yeah, the dentists is nasty, but it will only get worse... much much worse if you wait.

    But it's getting worse for someone else. That's almost as good as it not getting worse at all.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    Leon said:

    kamski said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    This is genuinely good advice by the way. I think I’ve managed it every year since my late 30s. Apart from the years when desperately in love, and even then there’s an argument you should do (3) just to “keep your hand in”
    Never mind desperately in love, just sounds desperate.

    Sad to see you back, I was hoping you'd "found some better place"
    You do know I came back for JUST this reaction, don’t you?
    You weren't gone that long. Just the equivalent of a long weekend. An impressive and theatrical flounce, nonetheless.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407
    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    This sort of claim seems easy to debunk, e.g. :
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/veganism-by-country
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1280066/global-country-ranking-vegan-share/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Prevalence_by_country

    That's hardly 'non-existent'.
    Not sure that I believe so many Poles are vegetarian. It seemed very pork heavy when I was there, albeit a decade ago.
    Wild boar would count as vegan. Or so one learns on PB.
    OK, fuck off with the meat is vegan comments now please.

    I said (once) I was in a pub that was serving entirely vegan food except the one dish they did offer that was meat-based was venison. I said that was because it was considered tolerable due to its sustainability credentials (because it's not farmed, its wild, doesn't take up land and there's a huge oversupply of them) so that's the only meat vegans will tolerate. And I said so.

    Somehow that got twisted into a venison = vegan meme and a group of five-years olds on here have laughed on here incessantly about it for almost 18 months like they're just learned the word "poo".

    It stopped being funny over a year ago.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    This sort of claim seems easy to debunk, e.g. :
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/veganism-by-country
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1280066/global-country-ranking-vegan-share/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Prevalence_by_country

    That's hardly 'non-existent'.
    Maybe you missed "most parts".

    And it's not a claim. It's fact.
    Random sample ...

    https://www.happycow.net/europe/finland/oulu/
    https://www.happycow.net/europe/france/avignon/
    https://www.happycow.net/europe/albania/shkoder/
    https://www.happycow.net/europe/portugal/porto_santo/
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    The fact that almost all supermarkets might have a (tiny) section of plant-based crap around the nation doesn't disprove the point.

    Veganism is a tiny percentage (2-3% of the population, at best) and that cultural and social phenomenon is heavily concentrated in London and Brighton and a few other Met colonies, which manage to spin off and sustain a few restaurants and so forth.

    Elsewhere it's negligible but of course supermarkets cater to all tastes, just as they sell all sorts of niche ingredients and foods to others who exist in even fewer numbers.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    This sort of claim seems easy to debunk, e.g. :
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/veganism-by-country
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1280066/global-country-ranking-vegan-share/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Prevalence_by_country

    That's hardly 'non-existent'.
    Not sure that I believe so many Poles are vegetarian. It seemed very pork heavy when I was there, albeit a decade ago.
    Wild boar would count as vegan. Or so one learns on PB.
    OK, fuck off with the meat is vegan comments now please.

    I said (once) I was in a pub that was serving entirely vegan food except the one dish they did offer that was meat-based was venison. I said that was because it was considered tolerable due to its sustainability credentials (because it's not farmed, its wild, doesn't take up land and there's a huge oversupply of them) so that's the only meat vegans will tolerate. And I said so.

    Somehow that got twisted into a venison = vegan meme and a group of five-years olds on here have laughed on here incessantly about it for almost 18 months like they're just learned the word "poo".

    It stopped being funny over a year ago.
    Yep. I’m with you.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    Chris said:

    I can confirm Larry the Cat liked me.

    [Liz Truss] said that the [10 Downing Street] flat was infested in fleas. “Some claimed that this was down to Boris and Carrie’s dog Dilyn, but there was no conclusive evidence,” she said. “In any case, the entire place had to be sprayed with flea killer. I spent several weeks itching.”

    She said the Downing Street flat was “really noisy” with the “constant backdrop” of changing and protests.

    The “saving grace” of living there, she said, was Larry the cat. “He’s a lovely character and seems to take a liking and disliking to all the right people.”


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liz-truss-i-felt-like-a-prisoner-in-flea-infested-downing-street-flat-pb8b7ljhs

    No doubt it's been done here already, but I thought it was interesting that Liz Truss's two-word comment on the death of the Queen included the word "me".
    Not three words? As in "it was..."
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,061

    Nigelb said:

    Chris said:

    ydoethur said:

    Disappointed none of you picked up on my subtle Lord of the Rings reference in the morning thread.

    Call yourselves geeks, you should be ashamed.

    I do not understand it.
    Nor did I, but Google is Your Friend.
    I never saw TSE as Galadriel, but I'm prepared to consider him in that light.
    She said it in the films but it was Treebeard who said it in the books.
    I though the writing was a bit wooden.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    The fact that almost all supermarkets might have a (tiny) section of plant-based crap around the nation doesn't disprove the point.

    Veganism is a tiny percentage (2-3% of the population, at best) and that cultural and social phenomenon is heavily concentrated in London and Brighton and a few other Met colonies, which manage to spin off and sustain a few restaurants and so forth.

    Elsewhere it's negligible but of course supermarkets cater to all tastes, just as they sell all sorts of niche ingredients and foods to others who exist in even fewer numbers.
    Not logical in the least. A lot of vegans avoid the supermarket ultraprocessed foods anyway. So you can't go on that basis.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,517

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    I have black, muslim, Irish, Albanian and even Scottish neighbours. No problem with any of them. But I also have a vegan neighbour. 😱
    I suspect this is because no one has an interest in converting you to being black, muslim, Irish or Albanian (and I presume you are already Scottish) whist the messanic zeal of some vegans would put 19th century Christian missionaries or 7th Day Adventists to shame.

    I wouldn't dream of criticising a vegan for what they eat and yet those I have met seem incapable of getting through a meal without making some comment on either the health or morality aspects of what is on my plate. More than anything it is just tiresome.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,549

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    The fact that almost all supermarkets might have a (tiny) section of plant-based crap around the nation doesn't disprove the point.

    Veganism is a tiny percentage (2-3% of the population, at best) and that cultural and social phenomenon is heavily concentrated in London and Brighton and a few other Met colonies, which manage to spin off and sustain a few restaurants and so forth.

    Elsewhere it's negligible but of course supermarkets cater to all tastes, just as they sell all sorts of niche ingredients and foods to others who exist in even fewer numbers.
    "plant-based crap"
    How do you know it's 'crap' if you don't eat it?

    "Elsewhere it's negligible"
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    Ha ha ha ha-ha-ha-ha ha ha ha
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,189
    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Lots of Vegan places when I was in Hamburg last year, and good quality too. As was the Vietnamese food too.
    Just searching for vegan restaurants on google maps by distance from where I am sitting in Germany there is:

    110 metres: Vegan pizza restaurant
    230 metres: Vegan kebab imbiss
    260 metres: Vegan Vietnamese restaurant
    550 metres: Vegan cafe
    700 metres: Vegan 'Asian fusion' restaurant
    900 metres: Vegan pizza restaurant
    1.1 km: Vegan Turkish restaurant
    1.2 km: Vegan Vietnamese restaurant
    1.2 km Vegan burger restaurant
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    I have black, muslim, Irish, Albanian and even Scottish neighbours. No problem with any of them. But I also have a vegan neighbour. 😱
    I suspect this is because no one has an interest in converting you to being black, muslim, Irish or Albanian (and I presume you are already Scottish) whist the messanic zeal of some vegans would put 19th century Christian missionaries or 7th Day Adventists to shame.

    I wouldn't dream of criticising a vegan for what they eat and yet those I have met seem incapable of getting through a meal without making some comment on either the health or morality aspects of what is on my plate. More than anything it is just tiresome.
    TBF you might not know about the other vegans who don't do that. Sampling methodology failure.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407
    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    The fact that almost all supermarkets might have a (tiny) section of plant-based crap around the nation doesn't disprove the point.

    Veganism is a tiny percentage (2-3% of the population, at best) and that cultural and social phenomenon is heavily concentrated in London and Brighton and a few other Met colonies, which manage to spin off and sustain a few restaurants and so forth.

    Elsewhere it's negligible but of course supermarkets cater to all tastes, just as they sell all sorts of niche ingredients and foods to others who exist in even fewer numbers.
    Not logical in the least. A lot of vegans avoid the supermarket ultraprocessed foods anyway. So you can't go on that basis.
    You are just a very sad dull dogmatic Scot who tries to make themselves feel better about the fact you haven't got Independence by trying to score minor points of fantastic pedantry with a selection of Sassenachs you think represent those who are holding you back, and fail to recognise your greatness.

    It's all rather sad, really. Like this post.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,517
    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    I have black, muslim, Irish, Albanian and even Scottish neighbours. No problem with any of them. But I also have a vegan neighbour. 😱
    I suspect this is because no one has an interest in converting you to being black, muslim, Irish or Albanian (and I presume you are already Scottish) whist the messanic zeal of some vegans would put 19th century Christian missionaries or 7th Day Adventists to shame.

    I wouldn't dream of criticising a vegan for what they eat and yet those I have met seem incapable of getting through a meal without making some comment on either the health or morality aspects of what is on my plate. More than anything it is just tiresome.
    TBF you might not know about the other vegans who don't do that. Sampling methodology failure.
    Hence the reason I said 'some'.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,412

    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    This sort of claim seems easy to debunk, e.g. :
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/veganism-by-country
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1280066/global-country-ranking-vegan-share/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Prevalence_by_country

    That's hardly 'non-existent'.
    Not sure that I believe so many Poles are vegetarian. It seemed very pork heavy when I was there, albeit a decade ago.
    Wild boar would count as vegan. Or so one learns on PB.
    OK, fuck off with the meat is vegan comments now please.

    I said (once) I was in a pub that was serving entirely vegan food except the one dish they did offer that was meat-based was venison. I said that was because it was considered tolerable due to its sustainability credentials (because it's not farmed, its wild, doesn't take up land and there's a huge oversupply of them) so that's the only meat vegans will tolerate. And I said so.

    Somehow that got twisted into a venison = vegan meme and a group of five-years olds on here have laughed on here incessantly about it for almost 18 months like they're just learned the word "poo".

    It stopped being funny over a year ago.
    It's all muscle.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    The fact that almost all supermarkets might have a (tiny) section of plant-based crap around the nation doesn't disprove the point.

    Veganism is a tiny percentage (2-3% of the population, at best) and that cultural and social phenomenon is heavily concentrated in London and Brighton and a few other Met colonies, which manage to spin off and sustain a few restaurants and so forth.

    Elsewhere it's negligible but of course supermarkets cater to all tastes, just as they sell all sorts of niche ingredients and foods to others who exist in even fewer numbers.
    "plant-based crap"
    How do you know it's 'crap' if you don't eat it?

    "Elsewhere it's negligible"
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    Ha ha ha ha-ha-ha-ha ha ha ha
    I'm in Bulgaria right now, you dipstick. Doesn't exist.

    Even by virtue of that wanker map you linked to.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239

    Leon said:

    kamski said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    This is genuinely good advice by the way. I think I’ve managed it every year since my late 30s. Apart from the years when desperately in love, and even then there’s an argument you should do (3) just to “keep your hand in”
    Never mind desperately in love, just sounds desperate.

    Sad to see you back, I was hoping you'd "found some better place"
    You do know I came back for JUST this reaction, don’t you?
    You weren't gone that long. Just the equivalent of a long weekend. An impressive and theatrical flounce, nonetheless.
    Yes it wasn’t an epic of a flounce. About a week?

    I’ll tell you what tho. I got a noticeably larger amount of work done. So I may be a little more absent in future. Except when I’m travelling and want to post photos of drinks obvs
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,128
    edited April 13
    FT: global gut of solar panels reduces prices to unique lows.

    Quite remarkable, even in the UK solar panels are down to under 20p/watt.

    https://archive.ph/wCxWq

    Caveat for PBers are that these are the panels, so that you need someone who knows how to put together a system. But worth buying for a future project if eg you are using them as an off grid setup.

    I wouldn't be investing in a Western panel maker at this stage, as either a bloodbath or major subsidies are probably on the way. It feels a little like the previous occasion when the German solar panel industry evaporated.

    Thread here:
    https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/topic/38105-cheaper-to-make-a-fence-from-pv/
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,517
    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    The fact that almost all supermarkets might have a (tiny) section of plant-based crap around the nation doesn't disprove the point.

    Veganism is a tiny percentage (2-3% of the population, at best) and that cultural and social phenomenon is heavily concentrated in London and Brighton and a few other Met colonies, which manage to spin off and sustain a few restaurants and so forth.

    Elsewhere it's negligible but of course supermarkets cater to all tastes, just as they sell all sorts of niche ingredients and foods to others who exist in even fewer numbers.
    Not logical in the least. A lot of vegans avoid the supermarket ultraprocessed foods anyway. So you can't go on that basis.
    Gregg's vegan sausage rolls are lush. No idea how they manage that same perfect combination of hot fat, salt and pastry without meat but it works.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    Why aren’t Sky showing GOLF? Instead, they are showing Scheffler on the driving range.

    It’s utterly bizarre.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,549

    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    I have black, muslim, Irish, Albanian and even Scottish neighbours. No problem with any of them. But I also have a vegan neighbour. 😱
    I suspect this is because no one has an interest in converting you to being black, muslim, Irish or Albanian (and I presume you are already Scottish) whist the messanic zeal of some vegans would put 19th century Christian missionaries or 7th Day Adventists to shame.

    I wouldn't dream of criticising a vegan for what they eat and yet those I have met seem incapable of getting through a meal without making some comment on either the health or morality aspects of what is on my plate. More than anything it is just tiresome.
    TBF you might not know about the other vegans who don't do that. Sampling methodology failure.
    Hence the reason I said 'some'.
    I've never had a vegan try to convert me to veganism - but perhaps they knew me too well.

    There are some, however, who seem to belong to the vegan police: they seem to believe that the suffering they have to go to in order to be vegan in some way gives them superpowers. In one case I know, they are upset that more vegan food is in supermarkets, as it is hurting their usual suppliers on the other side of town (i.e. they don't have to suffer to get their ingredients).

    Scott Pilgrim played on this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLpCZ8g5uK8

    But they are few and far between, and seem mostly to be in the vegans who have been vegan for a long time, and seem o share Casino's dismay that it's becoming popular. There are nutters in all groups.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kamski said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    This is genuinely good advice by the way. I think I’ve managed it every year since my late 30s. Apart from the years when desperately in love, and even then there’s an argument you should do (3) just to “keep your hand in”
    Never mind desperately in love, just sounds desperate.

    Sad to see you back, I was hoping you'd "found some better place"
    You do know I came back for JUST this reaction, don’t you?
    You weren't gone that long. Just the equivalent of a long weekend. An impressive and theatrical flounce, nonetheless.
    Yes it wasn’t an epic of a flounce. About a week?

    I’ll tell you what tho. I got a noticeably larger amount of work done. So I may be a little more absent in future. Except when I’m travelling and want to post photos of drinks obvs
    I need to flounce, midweek. Instead I waste good earning time whining about SHIT spelling on here and arguing with @Mexicanpete, which is like trying to put lipstick on a pig.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kamski said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Remember Leon’s Motto for Lifetime Happiness

    Every year you should

    1. Make a new friend
    2. Visit a new country
    3. Fuck a new woman

    The latter is optional but ONLY if you are desperately in love

    This is genuinely good advice by the way. I think I’ve managed it every year since my late 30s. Apart from the years when desperately in love, and even then there’s an argument you should do (3) just to “keep your hand in”
    Never mind desperately in love, just sounds desperate.

    Sad to see you back, I was hoping you'd "found some better place"
    You do know I came back for JUST this reaction, don’t you?
    You weren't gone that long. Just the equivalent of a long weekend. An impressive and theatrical flounce, nonetheless.
    Yes it wasn’t an epic of a flounce. About a week?

    I’ll tell you what tho. I got a noticeably larger amount of work done. So I may be a little more absent in future. Except when I’m travelling and want to post photos of drinks obvs
    I need to flounce, midweek. Instead I waste good earning time whining about SHIT spelling on here and arguing with @Mexicanpete, which is like trying to put lipstick on a pig.
    You're not really a proper pb'er until you've had at least one good flounce.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,986
    @PolitlcsUK

    🚨 NEW: Tory rebels are planning to install Boris Johnson as Deputy Chairman if Suella Braverman becomes party leader

    [@katefergurson4]
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,986
    @kateferguson4

    EXCL: Rishi Sunak may call a summer election if he avoids a Tory wipeout in the locals on May 2.

    The choice between June/July and October/November is now "paper thin", government sources say

    But Tory MPs say they could topple Rishi if he dares go early
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407
    Scott_xP said:

    @PolitlcsUK

    🚨 NEW: Tory rebels are planning to install Boris Johnson as Deputy Chairman if Suella Braverman becomes party leader

    [@katefergurson4]

    And I'm planning to install my father as Lord Privy Seal if I become party leader.

    Why is it even necessary to waste precious bytes of the Internet reposting that?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,354

    Scott_xP said:

    @PolitlcsUK

    🚨 NEW: Tory rebels are planning to install Boris Johnson as Deputy Chairman if Suella Braverman becomes party leader

    [@katefergurson4]

    And I'm planning to install my father as Lord Privy Seal if I become party leader.

    Why is it even necessary to waste precious bytes of the Internet reposting that?
    To prove just how fucking crazy these bastards are.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,009
    Nigelb said:

    "Blue hydrogen" is even more unjustifiable economically.
    It's effectively government subsiding the mass production of a product for which there isn't a demand beyond the existing market, in the hope of creating one.

    And the cost of production, while for now substantially cheaper than 'green hydrogen' (produced by electrolysis of water, is both subject to commodity prices, and technologically unlikely to fall much.
    Whereas ghee's a great deal of headrooom to improve the efficiency and capital cost of bulk electrolysis.

    A lot of industry wants to fuel switch from natural gas to low carbon hydrogen in order to decarbonise their operations.

    Then we have the whole question of domestic heating. Hydrogen boilers or god-awful heat pumps and an entirely new central heating system. I know which I prefer.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,747
    Scott_xP said:

    @PolitlcsUK

    🚨 NEW: Tory rebels are planning to install Boris Johnson as Deputy Chairman if Suella Braverman becomes party leader

    [@katefergurson4]

    How wise the Loony Party was to include the word "Official" in its registered title.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,747
    Scott_xP said:

    @kateferguson4

    EXCL: Rishi Sunak may call a summer election if he avoids a Tory wipeout in the locals on May 2.

    The choice between June/July and October/November is now "paper thin", government sources say

    But Tory MPs say they could topple Rishi if he dares go early

    Or maybe ripple Toshi.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,354

    Nigelb said:

    "Blue hydrogen" is even more unjustifiable economically.
    It's effectively government subsiding the mass production of a product for which there isn't a demand beyond the existing market, in the hope of creating one.

    And the cost of production, while for now substantially cheaper than 'green hydrogen' (produced by electrolysis of water, is both subject to commodity prices, and technologically unlikely to fall much.
    Whereas ghee's a great deal of headrooom to improve the efficiency and capital cost of bulk electrolysis.

    A lot of industry wants to fuel switch from natural gas to low carbon hydrogen in order to decarbonise their operations.

    Then we have the whole question of domestic heating. Hydrogen boilers or god-awful heat pumps and an entirely new central heating system. I know which I prefer.
    The ghosts of those who died in R101, R38 and the Hindenburg are waving at you...

    But not the Shenandoah. That had helium.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,627
    kamski said:

    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Lots of Vegan places when I was in Hamburg last year, and good quality too. As was the Vietnamese food too.
    Just searching for vegan restaurants on google maps by distance from where I am sitting in Germany there is:

    110 metres: Vegan pizza restaurant
    230 metres: Vegan kebab imbiss
    260 metres: Vegan Vietnamese restaurant
    550 metres: Vegan cafe
    700 metres: Vegan 'Asian fusion' restaurant
    900 metres: Vegan pizza restaurant
    1.1 km: Vegan Turkish restaurant
    1.2 km: Vegan Vietnamese restaurant
    1.2 km Vegan burger restaurant
    Vegan Vietnamese is very good indeed. Their cuisine is traditionally non-dairy as not a place that had dairy industry until modern times. Many Bhuddists are Vegan, so like Hindu and Jain cuisine their Vegan recipes are very good indeed, and nothing like the ultra-processed meat substitute in supermarkets.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    ...
    Scott_xP said:

    @PolitlcsUK

    🚨 NEW: Tory rebels are planning to install Boris Johnson as Deputy Chairman if Suella Braverman becomes party leader

    [@katefergurson4]

    Scott_xP said:

    @kateferguson4

    EXCL: Rishi Sunak may call a summer election if he avoids a Tory wipeout in the locals on May 2.

    The choice between June/July and October/November is now "paper thin", government sources say

    But Tory MPs say they could topple Rishi if he dares go early

    And to think you used to take this political organisation seriously.

    It must feel like having been duped on an episode of You've Been Framed.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,061

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    This is quite something. Guy's first reaction to the Sydney killings is to feed it into his.... anti-bike-lane narrative

    "The police and ambulance staging outside Westfield Bondi Junction would have been severely impacted by bike lanes which had been proposed for the area. The Eastern Suburbs is a heavily congested area which impacts ambo arrival and transport. This will be a first responder case study for years."

    https://x.com/VoteLewko/status/1779048501395263845

    Hypothetical bike lanes are evil and the lady policeman lost her hat.
    What gets me about the whole Ukraine situation is that there's no provision for vegans

    Like, OK, 300,000 are dead and Russia has laid waste to most of east Ukraine and it will possibly turn into World War Three but surely there could be at least one pop-up falafel stall? Is that so hard? Or a tofu buffet in a tent?
    Outside of London, Brighton and its colonies Veganism is non-existent in most parts of Europe.

    In fact, it would be considered deeply weird.
    Vegan food can be found in every supermarket in Britain and Ireland, possibly Europe.

    It's possible that this is because a few Vegan activists have captured the decision-making of Europe's supermarkets, and at some point they will stop throwing money (and unsold vegan food) away, but I think it shows that there is a niche there, and there are actually a few vegans, sprinkled around the place.

    Are you sure your neighbour isn't a vegan?
    The fact that almost all supermarkets might have a (tiny) section of plant-based crap around the nation doesn't disprove the point.

    Veganism is a tiny percentage (2-3% of the population, at best) and that cultural and social phenomenon is heavily concentrated in London and Brighton and a few other Met colonies, which manage to spin off and sustain a few restaurants and so forth.

    Elsewhere it's negligible but of course supermarkets cater to all tastes, just as they sell all sorts of niche ingredients and foods to others who exist in even fewer numbers.
    "plant-based crap"
    How do you know it's 'crap' if you don't eat it?

    "Elsewhere it's negligible"
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    Ha ha ha ha-ha-ha-ha ha ha ha
    I'm in Bulgaria right now, you dipstick. Doesn't exist.

    Even by virtue of that wanker map you linked to.
    Bulgaria is reportedly one of the worst in Europe if you're vegan, but it doesn't seem to be impossible to subsist there.
    https://charlieontravel.com/vegan-travel-challenge-week-2-bulgaria/
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,128
    edited April 13

    Nigelb said:

    "Blue hydrogen" is even more unjustifiable economically.
    It's effectively government subsiding the mass production of a product for which there isn't a demand beyond the existing market, in the hope of creating one.

    And the cost of production, while for now substantially cheaper than 'green hydrogen' (produced by electrolysis of water, is both subject to commodity prices, and technologically unlikely to fall much.
    Whereas ghee's a great deal of headrooom to improve the efficiency and capital cost of bulk electrolysis.

    A lot of industry wants to fuel switch from natural gas to low carbon hydrogen in order to decarbonise their operations.

    Then we have the whole question of domestic heating. Hydrogen boilers or god-awful heat pumps and an entirely new central heating system. I know which I prefer.
    I suggest the smart call at present is perhaps air to air heat pumps, of which there are various options available. Perhaps with photovoltaic solar water heating.

    Obviously like all types of everything for heating the philosophy is fabric first.
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