I was a Corbyn supporter and I have said I don't know how many times I was wrong and I regret it. But that was in 2019!
But it doesn't make anything I've said less valid - and rather than bringing it up, why don't you argue with what I am actually saying?
You implied that I am on the side of Hamas. Why?
Do you think Joe Biden is on the side of Hamas?
Pushing hard against Israel is supporting Hamas, thats how I see it. When the chips are down Hamas are Putin and Iran and have no interest in peace unless it involves the destruction of Israel. They use their own people as human shields, are knuckle dragging Islamo Fascists and if successful wish nothing but ill on the West.
Biden is shifting his ground as he is in an election and has alienated a chuck of his supporters.
The Gaza dispute is the cause celebre of the Media. There are other disputes Sudan for instance which are just as violent where people are starving and where refugees are aplenty. They get little coverage, to their credit Al Jazeera do at least do reports on Sudan each week.
But Gaza is front page news because its Israel, no other reason.
And because it's a country armed and supported by the west that is doing the killing. That's a big part of it.
I think it’s appalling to vote Leave and keep your FOM rights by using a second EU passport .
You voted to deny that freedom to others . Many were devastated to lose those rights.
Maybe you should get more meaning to your life.
You voted to deny others FOM and swan around using your EU passport . Shame on you ! If you don’t see why your position might piss people off then you really are deluded .
People vote to deny me all sorts of things, Its part and parcel of what goes with a democracy. If you feel that strongly move to somewhere in the EU.
UK elections tend to effect people domestically . What exactly have you been denied ? I’m a dual national and have an EU passport . I class myself as very lucky . I didn’t vote to screw others who wanted that freedom. If you hated the EU so much to leave why are you taking advantage of an EU benefit ?
Ive had an Irish passport for nearly 30 years long before Brexit. As for why I voted out you have just jumped to your own conclusions I dont hate the EU and could have been persuaded to stay in. But seeing how successive governments acted whilst in left me wishing to come out,
We await that improvement in government behaviour you were looking for. Not spotted as yet.
Agreed, we;ll have another round of twattery until the nation gets fed up with it all.
Well it's gone the other way so far. Our quality of government has got worse because Brexit itself delivered power to a bunch of numpties.
Still, at least I'm expecting better after they're kicked out. You otoh ...
Yes that's the real tragedy of Brexit - a crazy idea promoted by deluded fantasists like Patrick Minford and Daniel Hannan was adopted by a bunch of shallow opportunists led by Johnson because they (correctly) thought it was a useful vehicle that would propel them to positions of power that they were quite incapable of gaining on merit.
I repeat my earlier point. If you think this, you must be livid with the Labour Party for whipping MPs to go through the lobby with them to vote down Theresa May’s deal. Everything that has happened since 2019 flows directly from the decision of Corbyn and Starmer to oppose May’s deal.
That judgment has the benefit of hindsight, it was not clear at the time that voting down May's deal would lead to a worse outcome.
Disagree, it really was very very obvious at the time that pushing things further would end very badly for remainers as it was only ever going to end in either a no deal Brexit or a harsher Brexit (Which is what we got). It was a very very simple bit of game theory spotted by many here.
That's a massive post-rationalisation.
In the rounds of 'indicative votes' on 27 March 2019 and 1 April 2019 the only propositions that came close to success were the votes for joining a Customs Union, the vote on 1 April failing by 3 votes. In contrast 'No Deal' lost by 240 votes and a 'Managed No Deal' was rejected by a 283 votes.
As you yourself pointed out on 28 March 2019: "Ken Clarke's Customs Union is the only possible outcome that I think can get over the line."
Even if that had been voted through, the Gov't would never have gone down that route as it was an indicative vote and would have required renegotiation with the EU which neither side was particularly in favour of. That May's deal never got close to making it through parliament does not mean it wasn't the option that remainers should have gone for given the situation at the time. Hardcore Brexiteers were entirely correct to oppose May's deal, Labour should have whipped it through via either voting for or abstention.
With hindsight, maybe.
Then again, in 10 years time we might benefit from seeing what a shitshow Brexit has been and end up in a Customs Union anyway.
Do you think youre capable of that ?
You couldnt sell the benefits when you were in what has changed ?
Who is going to agree to pay the membership fees of re-joining the EU? It's like a gym membership we have let lapse. Too many other calls on the money now, given we never went that often when we had it.
"Which hospitals are you going to close to pay for it?" will be rather toxic.
WE will pay for it, and much more, with the proceeds of the 5% of GDP that was lost through Brexit and will be restored if we rejoin.
Of course. The early adopter phase is done, and cheaper EVs have yet to hit the market in any volume.
If something like the Kia Ray EV was on the market in the UK, I'd buy one tomorrow. It isn't, so I'll continue to run my old jalopy.
Most of the big new battery factories are a year or so later than planned; hence the hiatus. The winners from that will be the Chinese ... and Toyota.
Only time will tell. The Germans are pushing hard to slow the whole EV thing down. I suspect we will follow their lead.
Quite something for a Brexiter to admit.
Our car industry needs the breathing space too. Or cant you understand that ?
You've been lecturing poor RP all morning oin how he - although he is not a farmer - should make the farming industry get off its collective arse at once and start buccaneering - not your word, not that I recall, but certainly a very strong element of marketing Brexit. Now you think the UK car industry should be treated differently? That's what did it in in the first place, whining that it needed a breathjing space while all those Japanese cars were beginning to hog the market.
Which car industry does he think we need to protect? Volkswagen?
There are two revolutions happening in the car industry. Electrification is the one everyone can see - and UK production is either well equipped (LEVC, Nissan, Rolls Royce) or doomed (JLR).
The other one which not everyone has yet grasped is gigacasting. Tesla have reimagined what a car is and how it is built - two big casts at either end and a structural battery pack which you assemble the interior onto. Stronger, cheaper and faster than the way most cars are made. China has leapt on this, as have Toyota.
Look at profitability, in an industry which has been going slowly (and repeatedly) bankrupt for several decades. Legacy manufacturers cling to their lengthy model development processes and vast array of parts construction whilst the new guys develop and bring to market cars which actually make money.
Lol says the man working for the high margin supermarkets. Which chain will go bust first ?
Morrisons.
I work for who?
I don't.
Back to the point. What cars do we make in the UK? Nissan, Toyota, Vauxhall, JLR, LEVC and then the specialists. I fear for JLR but that has nothing to do with EVs. The rest are fine.
The challenge for all of them is going to be adaption of the new way to build cars. Toyota are on it with gigacasting investment, and Stellantis can churn out electrified mass market cars which sell fine at £20k. They'll need to make them cheaper as £20k is a big discount vs the £32k+ they want to sell a Corsa for.
Its Volkswagen who are the deepest shit. Financially in poor shape after dieselgate. With an electric drivetrain which is poor and a rapidly declining reputation for build quality. Legacy manufacturers need to invest to keep up with the new way to build cars or they will be sunk. If the suggestion from free marketeers like yourself is protectionism, then good luck. Europe would resemble East Germany - a protected market for cars which are the 2025 equivalent of the Trabant.
Current Vauxhall Corsas seem to be about 20-25% off on Carwow, so I'm sure they will manage something.
More than that if you are looking at the electric versions - I’ll post this Peugeot 2008 because it shows how step the discounts are - I suspect it won’t take much to find similar any time this year now x% of cars need to be evs
We will inevitably have closer coopertion with the EU, Firstly the key personnel have left the scene - Barnier, Juncker, Johnson - so the tone has softened. Secondly money and pragmatism will ease trading.
Then what was the point in the whole thing?
People have their own reasons . For me
1. To bring british politicians back under the control; of their electorate 2. To stop the disadvantage of an anglo saxon economy in a social market structure, You can have one but not both 3. To be able to develop our own economic interest and not those of a collective.
Of course. The early adopter phase is done, and cheaper EVs have yet to hit the market in any volume.
If something like the Kia Ray EV was on the market in the UK, I'd buy one tomorrow. It isn't, so I'll continue to run my old jalopy.
Most of the big new battery factories are a year or so later than planned; hence the hiatus. The winners from that will be the Chinese ... and Toyota.
Only time will tell. The Germans are pushing hard to slow the whole EV thing down. I suspect we will follow their lead.
Quite something for a Brexiter to admit.
Our car industry needs the breathing space too. Or cant you understand that ?
You've been lecturing poor RP all morning oin how he - although he is not a farmer - should make the farming industry get off its collective arse at once and start buccaneering - not your word, not that I recall, but certainly a very strong element of marketing Brexit. Now you think the UK car industry should be treated differently? That's what did it in in the first place, whining that it needed a breathjing space while all those Japanese cars were beginning to hog the market.
Which car industry does he think we need to protect? Volkswagen?
There are two revolutions happening in the car industry. Electrification is the one everyone can see - and UK production is either well equipped (LEVC, Nissan, Rolls Royce) or doomed (JLR).
The other one which not everyone has yet grasped is gigacasting. Tesla have reimagined what a car is and how it is built - two big casts at either end and a structural battery pack which you assemble the interior onto. Stronger, cheaper and faster than the way most cars are made. China has leapt on this, as have Toyota.
Look at profitability, in an industry which has been going slowly (and repeatedly) bankrupt for several decades. Legacy manufacturers cling to their lengthy model development processes and vast array of parts construction whilst the new guys develop and bring to market cars which actually make money.
The problem with the massive casting is that it makes cars unrepairable and therefore utterly disposable. Any accident bigger than just a replacement bumper writes off the car - and this is being reflected in insurance premiums charged on such cars.
Dr.Foxy - Two points: First, In some US states, including my own Washington, judges are elected. (It's not entirely satisfactory, since they can't campaign in the usual way, but if judges can make laws, as too many American judges do, it's better than nothing.)
Second, federal judges must be confirmed by the Senate. If the Senate is controlled by a different party, or even if the balance is close, that can put severe constraints on a president.
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Need to get on with the £25K vehicles.
1. To bring british politicians back under the control; of their electorate
2. To stop the disadvantage of an anglo saxon economy in a social market structure, You can have one but not both
3. To be able to develop our own economic interest and not those of a collective.
Second, federal judges must be confirmed by the Senate. If the Senate is controlled by a different party, or even if the balance is close, that can put severe constraints on a president.