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What’s happening with the polling “don’t knows” – politicalbetting.com

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  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,260
    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    dixiedean said:

    King has cancer.
    Not prostate.

    Not uncommon at his age but hopefully they have caught it quickly enough to remove it all
    It’s NOT prostate. It sounds a little more ominous than that

    Hmm
    The wording of "a form of cancer" suggests to me something haematological, perhaps blood or lymphoma, particularly if straight to non surgical treatment.

    Often these respond very well to treatment, and generally the press release is fairly upbeat.
    👍

    GSTK
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,260
    This is a thing in families isn’t it, especially royals. You go for ages when no one dies then suddenly 15 are scythed in a couple of seasons

    Its a bit like the way wickets cluster in an innings
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,871
    edited February 5
    Evening all :)

    I'm interested in a couple of barbed comments on public sector productivty which, we are told, is 5.7% lower than pre-pandemic.

    This was Jeremy Hunt from his speech to the Centre for Policy Studies in June 2023:

    We also need to be better at measuring productivity.

    The UK is one of the few countries to include public sector output measures as well as input data in its productivity statistics, which is a good start. But we can still do better.

    Crime, for example, is down approximately 50% since 2010, great achievement. That excluded fraud and computer misuse (which wasn’t measured then.) But it barely makes a dent on their policing productivity figures because our productivity figures don’t capture crime outcomes.

    Likewise on defence we measure what we spend, but not how safe that makes us.

    And where we do measure outputs and the quality of delivery, mainly in the NHS, we count the number of hospital treatments but not the value of preventative care, even though that saves lives and reduces cost.

    So I have asked the National Statistician to review how we can improve the way we measure public sector productivity which he has agreed to do.


    We don't really know about public sector productivity because we don't know to quantify it in significant areas of the public sector. It's easy to witter on about form filling and "diversity" jobs and there are no doubt some improvements tp be made (we talked about "process" yesterday) but there's so much more to the public sector than that. Are fire officers unproductive if there are no fires to fight? Are soldiers unproductive with no wars to fight? How do you define the "productivity" of a social worker? Do you count how many cases they are trying to handle?

    It's a false equivalence with the private sector - there's also the point a lot the public sector does the private sector won't or can't do.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,375
    edited February 5
    Fortuitously for him, the news about the King has distracted the media from the story about Sunak's appallingly misjudged Rwanda bet.
    He's a lucky general, I believe is the phrase.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,068
    dixiedean said:

    King has cancer.
    Not prostate.

    Damn. There are various possibilities, some of which are terrible.

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,582

    Fortuitously for him, the news about the King has distracted the media from the story about Sunak's appallingly misjudged Rwanda bet.
    He's a lucky general, I believe is the phrase.

    Christian Horner will also be breathing something of a sigh of relief tonight, that he’s not going to be leading the news.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,274

    New Thread

  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275

    Fortuitously for him, the news about the King has distracted the media from the story about Sunak's appallingly misjudged Rwanda bet.
    He's a lucky general, I believe is the phrase.

    Yes he’s been saved by the news about Charles .
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,396
    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    dixiedean said:

    King has cancer.
    Not prostate.

    Not uncommon at his age but hopefully they have caught it quickly enough to remove it all
    It’s NOT prostate. It sounds a little more ominous than that

    Hmm
    Not necessarily more ominous. Could be bladder cancer (it’s in the area). Could be leukaemia detected from bloods. I don’t get any tone from the statement other than that they have found a cancer and have started treatment.
    The good news 50% of those diagnosed with cancer can expect to be alive in 10 years time.*

    *Albeit very dependent on cancer type…
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,873
    Leon said:

    Rough old time for the royals. At this rate we might end up with… King Andrew

    😶

    Rather spookily, King of York has just won the 6.30 race at Southwell.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,396
    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    dixiedean said:

    King has cancer.
    Not prostate.

    Not uncommon at his age but hopefully they have caught it quickly enough to remove it all
    It’s NOT prostate. It sounds a little more ominous than that

    Hmm
    The wording of "a form of cancer" suggests to me something haematological, perhaps blood or lymphoma, particularly if straight to non surgical treatment.

    Often these respond very well to treatment, and generally the press release is fairly upbeat.
    One of the issues with crafting statements where trying to keep privacy yet knowing berks like me will try to decode every last word and punctuation mark.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,873
    New thread.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,984

    TimS said:

    Petrol scooters are generally only used for shortish journeys in relatively built up areas anyway. So this is an evolution of the scooter market, rather than an alternative for EV cars or e-bikes.

    Not to be offensive or anything, but you talk like someone who's idea of scooters is rooted in 1960s Rome. Outside of delivery riders, which is its own unique use, scooters are increasingly being bought by people using them for longer trips. Fuel tank sizes have been steadily creeping up to deal with this - 250 miles plus in range is not unusual now, particularly for larger engine sizes.

    This is a major reason why sales of electric scooters are tepid, to put it generously, and the motorcycle industry has been pushing for the ICE phaseout to be delayed. 40-50 mile range just isn't enough for many riders now and battery swapping won't help much unless the swap stations are scattered around like confetti, which isn't remotely feasible from a financial standpoint.
    Doesn’t that just make them…motorbikes?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,129

    TimS said:

    Petrol scooters are generally only used for shortish journeys in relatively built up areas anyway. So this is an evolution of the scooter market, rather than an alternative for EV cars or e-bikes.

    Not to be offensive or anything, but you talk like someone who's idea of scooters is rooted in 1960s Rome. Outside of delivery riders, which is its own unique use, scooters are increasingly being bought by people using them for longer trips. Fuel tank sizes have been steadily creeping up to deal with this - 250 miles plus in range is not unusual now, particularly for larger engine sizes.

    This is a major reason why sales of electric scooters are tepid, to put it generously, and the motorcycle industry has been pushing for the ICE phaseout to be delayed. 40-50 mile range just isn't enough for many riders now and battery swapping won't help much unless the swap stations are scattered around like confetti, which isn't remotely feasible from a financial standpoint.
    The moped market hasn't been that healthy in the UK, has it? Last I remember, the numbers being sold were well down on where they were a decade ago.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    Jonathan said:

    Imagine having to deal with that diagnosis in public like that. Poor soul.

    Yep. Horrible. The royalty is a deeply cruel goldfish bowl.

    Get well soon, Chas.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,408

    Jonathan said:

    Imagine having to deal with that diagnosis in public like that. Poor soul.

    Yep. Horrible. The royalty is a deeply cruel goldfish bowl.

    Get well soon, Chas.
    That's King Charles III to you.

    Show some respect.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    Jonathan said:

    Imagine having to deal with that diagnosis in public like that. Poor soul.

    Yep. Horrible. The royalty is a deeply cruel goldfish bowl.

    Get well soon, Chas.
    That's King Charles III to you.

    Show some respect.
    What a ludicrous, pompous, uncharitable post. I showed no more or less respect or disrespect than I would show anyone else. And I was sending warm wishes.

    Show some respect.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,408

    Jonathan said:

    Imagine having to deal with that diagnosis in public like that. Poor soul.

    Yep. Horrible. The royalty is a deeply cruel goldfish bowl.

    Get well soon, Chas.
    That's King Charles III to you.

    Show some respect.
    What a ludicrous, pompous, uncharitable post. I showed no more or less respect or disrespect than I would show anyone else. And I was sending warm wishes.

    Show some respect.
    What a disgraceful and disgusting post.

    You besmirched the institution of the monarchy and then cockily and disrespectfully addressed him as "Chaz", which is completely disrespectful. And well you know it. He's our head of state, not some bloke on the street.

    The pompous and ludicrous one is you.

    Show some respect.
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