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Why it’s becoming harder for a WH2024 Trump victory – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,161
edited August 2023 in General
Why it’s becoming harder for a WH2024 Trump victory – politicalbetting.com

The critical, first step of betting on a US election is to calculate the electoral college targets. Trump's path to victory is narrow and narrowing further due to events in Georgia. https://t.co/ALwqK0SwnT

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  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    Good.
  • What's The Deal With The GOP Debate Criteria? | FiveThirtyEight

    Senior elections analyst Nathaniel Rakich breaks down the long list of criteria the 2024 GOP presidential candidates must meet in order to qualify for the first Republican debate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2coeR8wO0U
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,134
    He's Toast.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    Becoming harder, but not hard enough yet.

    I get loyalty to a tribe in a very divisive political arena, but the sheer weight of issues the man has, on top of the epic selfish ego that drives it all, you would hope would eventually crash it all down.

    Just hold on, Joe.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410
    It's a good challenge. I'm wondering if his current price is too short at the moment.

    Does this actually stop him running though?

    I think he'd run himself on the ballot from jail, if he could.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,032
    edited August 2023
    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083


    I think he'd run himself on the ballot from jail, if he could.

    He can.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    kinabalu said:

    BREAKING: Trump’s attorneys beg him to cancel
    his press conference where he planned to refute Georgia’s charges.

    Trump's legal advisers have told him that holding such a press conference could make a guilty verdict even more likely.

    Don’t listen to them Donnie!

    I gather he's going to publish a big report which 'exonerates him completely'.
    His lawyers must be loving that prospect.

    Andy_JS said:

    So Leon has really left the site? I thought he was just bluffing.

    I didn't even think he was bluffing; I thought it was just a funny joke getting a rise out of Barty. People took it oddly seriously, so perhaps he'll rest Leon for a wee while for fun now.
    Sounds about right. He's done it before, even as the Leon persona and not even doing a reboot.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,918
    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,918
    I don't think the polling for Georgia has Biden massively ahead though
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    Interesting that you automatically combine republicans with those who would complain about emissions of any flying activity. There's probably some crossover, but not total.

    I'm a monarchist. I'm not saying it's a dereliction of duty for him not to go, but it seems an appropriate choice, and would be positive PR on brand for modern sensibilities to be even more supportive in attendance ofo the women's team.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410
    .
    kinabalu said:

    He's Toast.

    So who runs as Republican candidate instead?

    DeSantis is busted and I'm not sure I see the attraction of Vivek Ramaswamy to his base either, to be honest; he gives me strong Rubio vibes.

    But maybe I'm not trying hard enough.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    HYUFD said:

    I don't think the polling for Georgia has Biden massively ahead though

    The same for several states I assume - some last time were very close, and not all rejected candidates who would be more on for a steal this time around.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633
    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    We weren't in the final at Qatar, that I noticed, and Qatar doesn't belong to his dad. He can do some photo ops with the loyal subjects while he's down there. The truth is that like all poshos he finds soccer the most incomprehensibly boring game in the world, and can't be arsed. It's not like tennis, which had his hatchet-faced spouse glued down in the Wimbledon royal box for two whole weeks.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,582
    edited August 2023
    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    If it’s a commercial flight, and going anyway, then the marginal emissions are very little.

    Even the richest of the rich don’t fly private from London to Sydney; it’s way nicer to be in a private 1st class suite on a big plane, than spend 24h in a small one.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,918
    edited August 2023
    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen
    Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King could send the governor general
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    .

    kinabalu said:

    He's Toast.

    So who runs as Republican candidate instead?

    DeSantis is busted and I'm not sure I see the attraction of Vivek Ramaswamy to his base either, to be honest; he gives me strong Rubio vibes.

    But maybe I'm not trying hard enough.
    Haley? Seems like the invisible candidate, though we're assured that's because she's been doing a lot of low key leg work in the early states. Clearly not a NeverTrumper like Hurd or Christie, and presumably less hated than the traitorous Pence.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    I am sure it was simply au revoir rather than good bye. It was about the right time for a regeneration.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    I am sure it was simply au revoir rather than good bye. It was about the right time for a regeneration.
    36k posts in under 3 years - well past time!
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    I do think that William has made his reasons for not going clear. He’s big on climate change and he’s sticking to those guns.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,419
    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410
    .
    kle4 said:


    I think he'd run himself on the ballot from jail, if he could.

    He can.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs
    I guess Trump could run but it makes it much harder to campaign.

    Possible he could martyr himself but he couldn't hold rallies. Probably couldn't tweet as much etc.

    Not sure effect it'd have.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,032
    edited August 2023
    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    Utter nonsense and you simply do not know football

    This is the final of the women's World Cup that should count as if it were the Men playing in their first final since 1966 unless you are being misogynistic, and Qatar has nothing to do with it

    It is a World Cup Final and it discredits Charles and William if one of them does not attend
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen
    Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King could send the governor general
    Sooner than subject his late mum to the indignity of a seance he could get off his arse and tell his son to get off his. This dereliction of duty is on a par with that lightbulb head guy who couldn't be arsed to cut short his hols over Afghanistan. And if the King doesn't see this it's the job of the PM to tell him so.

    Can you even name the GG without googling?
  • HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen
    Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King could send the governor general
    You are clueless
  • Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    I am sure it was simply au revoir rather than good bye. It was about the right time for a regeneration.
    Probably
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,931
    Trump being the next US President will be even more dangerous for the rest of the world than Russia winning in Ukraine.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    .

    kle4 said:


    I think he'd run himself on the ballot from jail, if he could.

    He can.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs
    I guess Trump could run but it makes it much harder to campaign.

    Possible he could martyr himself but he couldn't hold rallies. Probably couldn't tweet as much etc.

    Not sure effect it'd have.
    I suppose the issue with Trump is for the first time in quite some time there is someone who would be willing to ruin a party's chances if he is not chosen as candidate, and bizarrely has sufficient support he could even have the prospect of running even whilst in prison. They are completely trapped, and his ego is so massive I'm surprised he doesn't provoke a miniature black hole whereever he goes, and it doesn't seem like a bluff if he did it, even though he couldn't rally or tweet.

    He's not going to be in jail come November 2024 though, even if they convict him before then, appeals and whatnot, but a fascinating possibility.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Isn't the real issue that the monarchy is becoming a bit like Brexit down under?

    They don't necessarily have a majority to get rid of it but it's a bit divisive and polarising, so they'd be met with protests and it'd risk stirring the pot a bit too.

    Of course that is no longterm solution but that seems to be where Oz is at right now.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,931

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Why not send Edward (assuming he knows anything about either football or ladies). He is a royal, but suitably unimportant to send to a bunch of convicts who don’t appreciate or understand fair play.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,955

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Her parts are drying up? Poor woman.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    'once her parts dry up' - What do you mean?
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Isn't the real issue that the monarchy is becoming a bit like Brexit down under?

    They don't necessarily have a majority to get rid of it but it's a bit divisive and polarising, so they'd be met with protests and it'd risk stirring the pot a bit too.

    Of course that is no longterm solution but that seems to be where Oz is at right now.
    They got both ChasnCam and the Sussexes in 2018, they can put up with Wills for 48 hours. Or if they can't we might as well end it.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Her parts are drying up? Poor woman.
    Great minds.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Isn't the real issue that the monarchy is becoming a bit like Brexit down under?

    They don't necessarily have a majority to get rid of it but it's a bit divisive and polarising, so they'd be met with protests and it'd risk stirring the pot a bit too.

    Of course that is no longterm solution but that seems to be where Oz is at right now.
    Yes the politically astute thing would to have been at the Semi-final too, as rare for two of his realms to be playing each other.

    Drag Charlotte along to entertain the photographers too.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Her parts are drying up? Poor woman.
    I read it that way as well.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,419
    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    'once her parts dry up' - What do you mean?
    Many actresses of a certain age find their parts drying up.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    edited August 2023
    kle4 said:


    I think he'd run himself on the ballot from jail, if he could.

    He can.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs
    Here it gets a little murky.

    Debs was in a Federal prison.

    If Trump is convicted in Georgia, he would be a state felon, and as a felon he would be disfranchised.

    If he is disfranchised in his state of residence - which he would be, as it would then become Georgia - would he *then* be eligible to run?

    I imagine the Supreme Criminals, ooops, Court would say yes, but I can see it being arguable.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Her parts are drying up? Poor woman.
    I read it that way as well.
    It appears we all have minds in the gutter. Well 3 of us anyway.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Why not send Edward (assuming he knows anything about either football or ladies). He is a royal, but suitably unimportant to send to a bunch of convicts who don’t appreciate or understand fair play.
    Or Anne, who at least is interested in sport and unlikely to draw protests, as out of the line of succession.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,134

    .

    kinabalu said:

    He's Toast.

    So who runs as Republican candidate instead?

    DeSantis is busted and I'm not sure I see the attraction of Vivek Ramaswamy to his base either, to be honest; he gives me strong Rubio vibes.

    But maybe I'm not trying hard enough.
    I'm in the slightly unsatisfactory position of being certain Trump won't see the WH again but unable to sketch out how exactly it will (not) happen. Other than the obvious of Biden beating him, I mean. My hunch is he won't make the ballot. But like you say, no other GOPer looks that viable atm.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410
    kle4 said:

    .

    kle4 said:


    I think he'd run himself on the ballot from jail, if he could.

    He can.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs
    I guess Trump could run but it makes it much harder to campaign.

    Possible he could martyr himself but he couldn't hold rallies. Probably couldn't tweet as much etc.

    Not sure effect it'd have.
    I suppose the issue with Trump is for the first time in quite some time there is someone who would be willing to ruin a party's chances if he is not chosen as candidate, and bizarrely has sufficient support he could even have the prospect of running even whilst in prison. They are completely trapped, and his ego is so massive I'm surprised he doesn't provoke a miniature black hole whereever he goes, and it doesn't seem like a bluff if he did it, even though he couldn't rally or tweet.

    He's not going to be in jail come November 2024 though, even if they convict him before then, appeals and whatnot, but a fascinating possibility.
    Yes, agreed. He runs from jail he still gets c.15-20%+ of the vote anyway and the official Republican candidate gets 20-25% and this simply gifts Biden a landslide in the electoral college.

    So either he's the official candidate and conceivably might win or he's not and he runs anyway, and definitely loses, and then blames conspiracies and cheats for that loss instead.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    edited August 2023
    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Her parts are drying up? Poor woman.
    I read it that way as well.
    It appears we all have minds in the gutter. Well 3 of us anyway.
    Make it four.

    Although in my defence, I did then realise it wasn't an Andrea Leadsome moment.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786

    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    'once her parts dry up' - What do you mean?
    Many actresses of a certain age find their parts drying up.
    This double entendre needs to stop.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633
    edited August 2023
    kinabalu said:

    .

    kinabalu said:

    He's Toast.

    So who runs as Republican candidate instead?

    DeSantis is busted and I'm not sure I see the attraction of Vivek Ramaswamy to his base either, to be honest; he gives me strong Rubio vibes.

    But maybe I'm not trying hard enough.
    I'm in the slightly unsatisfactory position of being certain Trump won't see the WH again but unable to sketch out how exactly it will (not) happen. Other than the obvious of Biden beating him, I mean. My hunch is he won't make the ballot. But like you say, no other GOPer looks that viable atm.
    Indeed, the only thing that can save the Republicans from humiliation is the orange man,-baby popping his clogs.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410

    Trump being the next US President will be even more dangerous for the rest of the world than Russia winning in Ukraine.

    Not really. Russia winning in Ukraine wouldn't definitely be worse as it'd be an actual successful invasion that'd encourage other invasions and wars.

    Don't overegg the pudding.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,625

    Trump being the next US President will be even more dangerous for the rest of the world than Russia winning in Ukraine.

    Trump was already President for 4 years and the world survived. What exactly are you afraid of?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,419
    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Why not send Edward (assuming he knows anything about either football or ladies). He is a royal, but suitably unimportant to send to a bunch of convicts who don’t appreciate or understand fair play.
    Or Anne, who at least is interested in sport and unlikely to draw protests, as out of the line of succession.
    I think both those Royals are probably quite settled where they are in the UK. I genuinely think Harry (and possibly Meghan) would work well as the Australian Windsors.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    edited August 2023

    Trump being the next US President will be even more dangerous for the rest of the world than Russia winning in Ukraine.

    Trump was already President for 4 years and the world survived. What exactly are you afraid of?
    That he'll be much worse next time, given he would have got away with multiple crimes against democracy.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    Miklosvar said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen
    Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King could send the governor general
    Sooner than subject his late mum to the indignity of a seance he could get off his arse and tell his son to get off his. This dereliction of duty is on a par with that lightbulb head guy who couldn't be arsed to cut short his hols over Afghanistan. And if the King doesn't see this it's the job of the PM to tell him so.

    Can you even name the GG without googling?
    As much as I love you Mik, and as much as I often agree with you I think it’s the correct call. We need to stop this bollocks of everyone jumping for sports matches. It’s sodding embarrassing. It’s sports people playing sports. That is it. I’m desperately hoping, for the first time ever I can imagine, that England lose the final purely because a million tossers are calling for a Bank Holiday if England win.

    There shouldn’t be a bank holiday for any England or British team winning an international tournament- the players get their lifetime satisfaction by winning the pinnacle of their chosen sport, they likely make more money through increased sponsorship, the fans get their joy from their team winning. That’s all it should be.

    I know self employed electricians, I know of people on ZHCs who don’t get paid when a team wins and the resulting bank holiday. It’s great for those in gov or media to demand it but then they don’t give a crap that it’s another day that the economy pays a price.

    It’s a football final. Great. Every seat in a stadium should be fans not VIPs who don’t give a monkey’s in reality. He would be better off setting up a big screen in Kensington palace gardens and inviting a load of kids from London to watch it with him.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    .

    kinabalu said:

    He's Toast.

    So who runs as Republican candidate instead?

    DeSantis is busted and I'm not sure I see the attraction of Vivek Ramaswamy to his base either, to be honest; he gives me strong Rubio vibes.

    But maybe I'm not trying hard enough.
    I'm in the slightly unsatisfactory position of being certain Trump won't see the WH again but unable to sketch out how exactly it will (not) happen. Other than the obvious of Biden beating him, I mean. My hunch is he won't make the ballot. But like you say, no other GOPer looks that viable atm.
    Indeed, the only thing that can save the Republicans from humiliation is the orange man,-baby popping his clogs.
    Gods, imagine the conspiracy theorists of QAnon working with that to draw on.

    The party would probably rename itself the Trumpite Party in his honour and declare him the eternal candidate.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    boulay said:

    Miklosvar said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen
    Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King could send the governor general
    Sooner than subject his late mum to the indignity of a seance he could get off his arse and tell his son to get off his. This dereliction of duty is on a par with that lightbulb head guy who couldn't be arsed to cut short his hols over Afghanistan. And if the King doesn't see this it's the job of the PM to tell him so.

    Can you even name the GG without googling?
    As much as I love you Mik, and as much as I often agree with you I think it’s the correct call. We need to stop this bollocks of everyone jumping for sports matches. It’s sodding embarrassing. It’s sports people playing sports. That is it. I’m desperately hoping, for the first time ever I can imagine, that England lose the final purely because a million tossers are calling for a Bank Holiday if England win.

    There shouldn’t be a bank holiday for any England or British team winning an international tournament- the players get their lifetime satisfaction by winning the pinnacle of their chosen sport, they likely make more money through increased sponsorship, the fans get their joy from their team winning. That’s all it should be.

    I know self employed electricians, I know of people on ZHCs who don’t get paid when a team wins and the resulting bank holiday. It’s great for those in gov or media to demand it but then they don’t give a crap that it’s another day that the economy pays a price.

    It’s a football final. Great. Every seat in a stadium should be fans not VIPs who don’t give a monkey’s in reality. He would be better off setting up a big screen in Kensington palace gardens and inviting a load of kids from London to watch it with him.
    I actually work longer hours on most bank holidays.

    Not at this time of year though.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,664
    edited August 2023

    Trump being the next US President will be even more dangerous for the rest of the world than Russia winning in Ukraine.

    Not really. Russia winning in Ukraine wouldn't definitely be worse as it'd be an actual successful invasion that'd encourage other invasions and wars.

    Don't overegg the pudding.
    It could be a case of elect Trump, get a Russian win for free, though.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,625
    I just opened the Daily Mail website and thought for a split-second that they'd done an exposé on Starmer.

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  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633
    kle4 said:

    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    .

    kinabalu said:

    He's Toast.

    So who runs as Republican candidate instead?

    DeSantis is busted and I'm not sure I see the attraction of Vivek Ramaswamy to his base either, to be honest; he gives me strong Rubio vibes.

    But maybe I'm not trying hard enough.
    I'm in the slightly unsatisfactory position of being certain Trump won't see the WH again but unable to sketch out how exactly it will (not) happen. Other than the obvious of Biden beating him, I mean. My hunch is he won't make the ballot. But like you say, no other GOPer looks that viable atm.
    Indeed, the only thing that can save the Republicans from humiliation is the orange man,-baby popping his clogs.
    Gods, imagine the conspiracy theorists of QAnon working with that to draw on.

    The party would probably rename itself the Trumpite Party in his honour and declare him the eternal candidate.
    From the QAnon perspective he would have faked his death in order to fight the evil baby blood drinking Democrat conspiracy, later to emerge riding a winged chariot across the sky and leading on his loyal supporters to restore greatness to America.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410
    Love the way (at very different prices) you can back RFK for being both the Republican nominee and the Democratic nominee.

    People who backed him are going to feel so silly in a year's time.
  • HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Her parts are drying up? Poor woman.
    I read it that way as well.
    You two have filthy minds.
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    boulay said:

    Miklosvar said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen
    Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King could send the governor general
    Sooner than subject his late mum to the indignity of a seance he could get off his arse and tell his son to get off his. This dereliction of duty is on a par with that lightbulb head guy who couldn't be arsed to cut short his hols over Afghanistan. And if the King doesn't see this it's the job of the PM to tell him so.

    Can you even name the GG without googling?
    As much as I love you Mik, and as much as I often agree with you I think it’s the correct call. We need to stop this bollocks of everyone jumping for sports matches. It’s sodding embarrassing. It’s sports people playing sports. That is it. I’m desperately hoping, for the first time ever I can imagine, that England lose the final purely because a million tossers are calling for a Bank Holiday if England win.

    There shouldn’t be a bank holiday for any England or British team winning an international tournament- the players get their lifetime satisfaction by winning the pinnacle of their chosen sport, they likely make more money through increased sponsorship, the fans get their joy from their team winning. That’s all it should be.

    I know self employed electricians, I know of people on ZHCs who don’t get paid when a team wins and the resulting bank holiday. It’s great for those in gov or media to demand it but then they don’t give a crap that it’s another day that the economy pays a price.

    It’s a football final. Great. Every seat in a stadium should be fans not VIPs who don’t give a monkey’s in reality. He would be better off setting up a big screen in Kensington palace gardens and inviting a load of kids from London to watch it with him.
    OK how does that square with Wimbledon attendance?

    If this had been the men's World Cup they'd have gone. I think this is what they are paid for. I am neutral on the monarchy yes/no question, veering very slightly no, but if they like being monarchs I also think they are missing a serious trick. And I am very, very pro the bigging up of cis womens' sport just at the moment. We need the nation to take this team to their hearts so that people will see the ludicrous nonsense of some 3rd division no hoper deciding that he is really Ethel and has been all along and being permitted to play against, or compete for a place on the team with, the lovely Alessia.
  • Trump being the next US President will be even more dangerous for the rest of the world than Russia winning in Ukraine.

    Trump was already President for 4 years and the world survived. What exactly are you afraid of?
    2020:

    Biden 81 million votes
    Trump 74 million votes
  • Love the way (at very different prices) you can back RFK for being both the Republican nominee and the Democratic nominee.

    People who backed him are going to feel so silly in a year's time.

    It reminds me of that glorious period in 2019 when you could back/lay Sam Gyimah in both the next Tory and Lib Dem leader markets.

    Fair play to him, he stood in leadership elections for both parties in 2019.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,663
    Foxy said:

    kle4 said:

    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    .

    kinabalu said:

    He's Toast.

    So who runs as Republican candidate instead?

    DeSantis is busted and I'm not sure I see the attraction of Vivek Ramaswamy to his base either, to be honest; he gives me strong Rubio vibes.

    But maybe I'm not trying hard enough.
    I'm in the slightly unsatisfactory position of being certain Trump won't see the WH again but unable to sketch out how exactly it will (not) happen. Other than the obvious of Biden beating him, I mean. My hunch is he won't make the ballot. But like you say, no other GOPer looks that viable atm.
    Indeed, the only thing that can save the Republicans from humiliation is the orange man,-baby popping his clogs.
    Gods, imagine the conspiracy theorists of QAnon working with that to draw on.

    The party would probably rename itself the Trumpite Party in his honour and declare him the eternal candidate.
    From the QAnon perspective he would have faked his death in order to fight the evil baby blood drinking Democrat conspiracy, later to emerge riding a winged chariot across the sky and leading on his loyal supporters to restore greatness to America.
    Like this?
    Trump
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,663

    I just opened the Daily Mail website and thought for a split-second that they'd done an exposé on Starmer.

    image

    You know they would if they could!
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,647
    Anne would be perfect. I would imagine they could shoehorn an Australian tour around it somehow?

    I'm kinda surprised that Charles hasn't done a Commonwealth Realms tour tbh.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    Trump being the next US President will be even more dangerous for the rest of the world than Russia winning in Ukraine.

    Trump was already President for 4 years and the world survived. What exactly are you afraid of?
    Trump won't make the same mistakes this time. From democracy to autocracy.

    Are you not concerned that this outrageous man attempted a coup on January 6th 2021?
  • Eabhal said:

    Anne would be perfect. I would imagine they could shoehorn an Australian tour around it somehow?

    I'm kinda surprised that Charles hasn't done a Commonwealth Realms tour tbh.

    He's off to France.

    The country will never forget this insult to the Lionesses.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,931
    boulay said:

    Miklosvar said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen
    Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King could send the governor general
    Sooner than subject his late mum to the indignity of a seance he could get off his arse and tell his son to get off his. This dereliction of duty is on a par with that lightbulb head guy who couldn't be arsed to cut short his hols over Afghanistan. And if the King doesn't see this it's the job of the PM to tell him so.

    Can you even name the GG without googling?
    As much as I love you Mik, and as much as I often agree with you I think it’s the correct call. We need to stop this bollocks of everyone jumping for sports matches. It’s sodding embarrassing. It’s sports people playing sports. That is it. I’m desperately hoping, for the first time ever I can imagine, that England lose the final purely because a million tossers are calling for a Bank Holiday if England win.

    There shouldn’t be a bank holiday for any England or British team winning an international tournament- the players get their lifetime satisfaction by winning the pinnacle of their chosen sport, they likely make more money through increased sponsorship, the fans get their joy from their team winning. That’s all it should be.

    I know self employed electricians, I know of people on ZHCs who don’t get paid when a team wins and the resulting bank holiday. It’s great for those in gov or media to demand it but then they don’t give a crap that it’s another day that the economy pays a price.

    It’s a football final. Great. Every seat in a stadium should be fans not VIPs who don’t give a monkey’s in reality. He would be better off setting up a big screen in Kensington palace gardens and inviting a load of kids from London to watch it with him.
    As a Scottish Nationalist, I think, in the event of an England win, there should be a bank holiday (England only) and wall to wall media coverage for weeks to come. It will add at least 10% to independence support. I wonder whether Yougov’s recent 3% increase in independence support is due to the Lionesses coverage so far. It has certainly converted me from an impartial bystander to an anyone but England supporter. Thank goodness cricket coverage is less jingoistic.
    (Cue HYUFD threatening to send the tanks in even if Scotland supports independence by 99% to 1%, whilst claiming to support democracy.)
  • In 2020 Trump got absolutely demolished. What has happened since then to persuade people who didn't vote for him then to do so now? Or for the people who voted to keep him out not to do so again?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075
    Hey guys, Elon wants to take your photograph every time you log on and take a photo of your ID, and use that data.

    * https://www.dailydot.com/debug/twitter-id-verification/

    I also remind you that Hollywood studios want to take your image rights for all eternity

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  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,188
    Just closed off Mike Pence after laying him earlier at 20 odd he's now out to 200. Which is a fair price to cover at imo
  • Off-topic, I hope for United's sake that Mason Greenwood is as good on his return as he was before his unfortunate idiocy. Imagine the excitement if he comes back and plays like Harry Maguire...
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    Miklosvar said:

    boulay said:

    Miklosvar said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen
    Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King could send the governor general
    Sooner than subject his late mum to the indignity of a seance he could get off his arse and tell his son to get off his. This dereliction of duty is on a par with that lightbulb head guy who couldn't be arsed to cut short his hols over Afghanistan. And if the King doesn't see this it's the job of the PM to tell him so.

    Can you even name the GG without googling?
    As much as I love you Mik, and as much as I often agree with you I think it’s the correct call. We need to stop this bollocks of everyone jumping for sports matches. It’s sodding embarrassing. It’s sports people playing sports. That is it. I’m desperately hoping, for the first time ever I can imagine, that England lose the final purely because a million tossers are calling for a Bank Holiday if England win.

    There shouldn’t be a bank holiday for any England or British team winning an international tournament- the players get their lifetime satisfaction by winning the pinnacle of their chosen sport, they likely make more money through increased sponsorship, the fans get their joy from their team winning. That’s all it should be.

    I know self employed electricians, I know of people on ZHCs who don’t get paid when a team wins and the resulting bank holiday. It’s great for those in gov or media to demand it but then they don’t give a crap that it’s another day that the economy pays a price.

    It’s a football final. Great. Every seat in a stadium should be fans not VIPs who don’t give a monkey’s in reality. He would be better off setting up a big screen in Kensington palace gardens and inviting a load of kids from London to watch it with him.
    OK how does that square with Wimbledon attendance?

    If this had been the men's World Cup they'd have gone. I think this is what they are paid for. I am neutral on the monarchy yes/no question, veering very slightly no, but if they like being monarchs I also think they are missing a serious trick. And I am very, very pro the bigging up of cis womens' sport just at the moment. We need the nation to take this team to their hearts so that people will see the ludicrous nonsense of some 3rd division no hoper deciding that he is really Ethel and has been all along and being permitted to play against, or compete for a place on the team with, the lovely Alessia.
    I am not of the opinion they need to be at Wimbledon either but at least it’s in the UK so they are truly representing the country the event is in regardless. I know we have had a carousel of UK tennis champions over the decades but I would hope if a foreigner has a chance of winning Wimbledon then they would still turn up in the royal box.

    I’m just being a grinch because I used to enjoy the today programme until it got turned into the Radio 5 live three hours of women’s sport you MUST be excited about interspersed with some bollocks music item.

    And to say it again, it would be better if Willandkate had organised a big screen with lots of diverse children to watch the match in some royal gardens in London.
  • viewcode said:

    Hey guys, Elon wants to take your photograph every time you log on and take a photo of your ID, and use that data.

    * https://www.dailydot.com/debug/twitter-id-verification/

    I also remind you that Hollywood studios want to take your image rights for all eternity

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    Well that's me never using Twitter again.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373

    I just opened the Daily Mail website and thought for a split-second that they'd done an exposé on Starmer.

    image

    Close, but no cigar.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075
    Miklosvar said:

    ...We need the nation to take this team to their hearts so that people will see the ludicrous nonsense of some 3rd division no hoper deciding that he is really Ethel and has been all along and being permitted to play against, or compete for a place on the team with, the lovely Alessia.

    This isn't the first time you've pointed this out (apart from your stiffy on the lovely Alessia). Do you really think people transition to get better scores in sports?

  • We need Marco Rubio to shake up this betting market.
  • HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    Why? He didn't go to the men's world cup in Qatar last year.

    Just another pathetic attempt by republicans to have a whinge at the royals when they would also whinge at the emissions and travel costs if he went to Australia for this one match
    It's a World Cup final involving England in a country where King Charles is Head of State.

    It's inconceivable that Queen Elizabeth wouldn't have sent someone.

    She and the King can send the governor general
    On a related note, we should have a Royal for the Southern hemisphere, based in Australia. Harry with a vat of Factor 50 would suit. With Meghan if she can still be arsed - she may find being a working Royal isn't so bad once her parts dry up. I think it would be nice.
    Her parts are drying up? Poor woman.
    I read it that way as well.
    You two have filthy minds.
    Takes one to know one :lol:
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,663

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    If there was any unpleasantness last night it was the Flouncer-in-Chief telling us, and I quote, that he was leaving "rather than being forced to hoof it about with a bunch of geriatric, 30-watt plebs in the farmers' league of politicalbetting.com..." before he proceeded to call a number of other longstanding posters 'utter twats'.

    I confess to very unpleasantly responding: Cheerio. I have a feeling Leon can handle such insults.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075
    Sandpit said:

    Way offtopic, I just bought this badge from a shop in Ukraine.

    To anyone who doubts what the Ukranians think of the Brits at the moment… 🇬🇧 🇺🇦


    I want one
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,011
    Miklosvar said:

    Good evening

    It is essential that Trump does not stand in 2024 and anything to help that happen is welcome

    I have not been posting much recently and notice it was a rather unpleasant on here last night with @Leon leaving and some seemingly pleased he left

    Unless someone breaches the rules of posting on this site, then expressing pleasure that someone you may not agree with has left is rather unnecessary

    On representation at the the Women's Final in Australia on Sunday, the question should be asked who would go if it was the Men's team for the first World final since 1966, and in my opinion it is inconceivable the King and the PM would avoid going

    Quite. Utterly not on for William not to go as pres of FA. This is the sort of thing he is paid for.
    As future King of Australia he must be gutted that they lost the semi.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    Sandpit said:

    Way offtopic, I just bought this badge from a shop in Ukraine.

    To anyone who doubts what the Ukranians think of the Brits at the moment… 🇬🇧 🇺🇦


    Looks like the correct orientation, good job.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486

    We need Marco Rubio to shake up this betting market.

    I’m waiting for Matthew McConaughy to make a surprise entrance into the Reps race. Get your money on now.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    viewcode said:

    Hey guys, Elon wants to take your photograph every time you log on and take a photo of your ID, and use that data.

    * https://www.dailydot.com/debug/twitter-id-verification/

    I also remind you that Hollywood studios want to take your image rights for all eternity

    * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlj-5kPl6fU

    Corporate dystopic futures are unlikely to happen, but not for want of people aiming for them, hence the need for vigilance.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633

    In 2020 Trump got absolutely demolished. What has happened since then to persuade people who didn't vote for him then to do so now? Or for the people who voted to keep him out not to do so again?

    Yes, because in 2020 there was mass fraud*, which Trump will expose at his press conference.

    There isn't enough popcorn in the world for this. It's like the Keystone Kops, but with a frisson of danger from nuclear weapons.

    *though all the evidence presented so far seems that it was Republicans doing the fraud.
  • Perhaps @leon will regenerate into @Byronic . Just like 13 is regenerating into 14 who looks like 10.

    Either way, he'll be back. He loves the attention.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075

    kle4 said:

    .

    kle4 said:


    I think he'd run himself on the ballot from jail, if he could.

    He can.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs
    I guess Trump could run but it makes it much harder to campaign.

    Possible he could martyr himself but he couldn't hold rallies. Probably couldn't tweet as much etc.

    Not sure effect it'd have.
    I suppose the issue with Trump is for the first time in quite some time there is someone who would be willing to ruin a party's chances if he is not chosen as candidate, and bizarrely has sufficient support he could even have the prospect of running even whilst in prison. They are completely trapped, and his ego is so massive I'm surprised he doesn't provoke a miniature black hole whereever he goes, and it doesn't seem like a bluff if he did it, even though he couldn't rally or tweet.

    He's not going to be in jail come November 2024 though, even if they convict him before then, appeals and whatnot, but a fascinating possibility.
    Yes, agreed. He runs from jail he still gets c.15-20%+ of the vote anyway and the official Republican candidate gets 20-25% and this simply gifts Biden a landslide in the electoral college.

    So either he's the official candidate and conceivably might win or he's not and he runs anyway, and definitely loses, and then blames conspiracies and cheats for that loss instead.
    Elections where third parties made a significant difference
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    Foxy said:

    In 2020 Trump got absolutely demolished. What has happened since then to persuade people who didn't vote for him then to do so now? Or for the people who voted to keep him out not to do so again?

    Yes, because in 2020 there was mass fraud*, which Trump will expose at his press conference.

    There isn't enough popcorn in the world for this. It's like the Keystone Kops, but with a frisson of danger from nuclear weapons.

    *though all the evidence presented so far seems that it was Republicans doing the fraud.
    Merely 'seems?'
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    In 2020 Trump got absolutely demolished. What has happened since then to persuade people who didn't vote for him then to do so now? Or for the people who voted to keep him out not to do so again?

    An encouraging thought. I suppose whilst he is unlikely to win many people back his hope is a) Biden is more disliked and that depresses his vote a bit, even if those votes just stay at home, and b) those states which were very close last time remain so, and that legal efforts to depress the vote in those areas work, at least enough for c) crazier statehouses going along with him more.
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    viewcode said:

    Miklosvar said:

    ...We need the nation to take this team to their hearts so that people will see the ludicrous nonsense of some 3rd division no hoper deciding that he is really Ethel and has been all along and being permitted to play against, or compete for a place on the team with, the lovely Alessia.

    This isn't the first time you've pointed this out (apart from your stiffy on the lovely Alessia). Do you really think people transition to get better scores in sports?

    Yes.

    https://torontosun.com/sports/other-sports/trans-cyclist-wins-womens-race-nearly-five-minutes-ahead-of-runner-up
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,457
    Following on from the discussions over the last day about the state of PB & lack of new blood, etc.: I've been trying to sign up for a while, but was getting stuck at the email confirmation stage - so perhaps other newbies are having the same problem?

    I didn't receive anything as part of the initial signup process, or when hitting the 'resend confirmation' button (and, yes, I checked the 'spam' folder). This was with a bog standard personal gmail account; I eventually signed up again with a freshly-created Yahoo email, which worked fine (hurray!).

    I realise that ensuring email deliverability is increasingly a ballache, especially to gmail - but might it perhaps be worth adding an "if you don't receive this, please retry with a different email provider"-type note to the confirmation resend page, @rcs1000 ?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    viewcode said:

    Sandpit said:

    Way offtopic, I just bought this badge from a shop in Ukraine.

    To anyone who doubts what the Ukranians think of the Brits at the moment… 🇬🇧 🇺🇦


    I want one
    In fairness the flag seems to be slightly fashionable thing in any case, it seems to pop up around the globe on clothing and tat in some odd places, and not just stamped on flags as a colonial legacy.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,986
    kle4 said:

    In 2020 Trump got absolutely demolished. What has happened since then to persuade people who didn't vote for him then to do so now? Or for the people who voted to keep him out not to do so again?

    An encouraging thought. I suppose whilst he is unlikely to win many people back his hope is a) Biden is more disliked and that depresses his vote a bit, even if those votes just stay at home, and b) those states which were very close last time remain so, and that legal efforts to depress the vote in those areas work, at least enough for c) crazier statehouses going along with him more.
    Seems a quite plausible outcome that 2024 is a rerun of 2020 only with more radicalised statehouses refusing to certify Biden.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,582
    viewcode said:

    Sandpit said:

    Way offtopic, I just bought this badge from a shop in Ukraine.

    To anyone who doubts what the Ukranians think of the Brits at the moment… 🇬🇧 🇺🇦


    I want one
    I’ll see if I can find another.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,792
    AlsoLei said:

    Following on from the discussions over the last day about the state of PB & lack of new blood, etc.: I've been trying to sign up for a while, but was getting stuck at the email confirmation stage - so perhaps other newbies are having the same problem?

    I didn't receive anything as part of the initial signup process, or when hitting the 'resend confirmation' button (and, yes, I checked the 'spam' folder). This was with a bog standard personal gmail account; I eventually signed up again with a freshly-created Yahoo email, which worked fine (hurray!).

    I realise that ensuring email deliverability is increasingly a ballache, especially to gmail - but might it perhaps be worth adding an "if you don't receive this, please retry with a different email provider"-type note to the confirmation resend page, @rcs1000 ?

    Welcome!
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,986
    edited August 2023
    kle4 said:

    viewcode said:

    Sandpit said:

    Way offtopic, I just bought this badge from a shop in Ukraine.

    To anyone who doubts what the Ukranians think of the Brits at the moment… 🇬🇧 🇺🇦


    I want one
    In fairness the flag seems to be slightly fashionable thing in any case, it seems to pop up around the globe on clothing and tat in some odd places, and not just stamped on flags as a colonial legacy.
    One of the nice things about it. It’s fairly politically neutral as a decorative item.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    Cookie said:

    AlsoLei said:

    Following on from the discussions over the last day about the state of PB & lack of new blood, etc.: I've been trying to sign up for a while, but was getting stuck at the email confirmation stage - so perhaps other newbies are having the same problem?

    I didn't receive anything as part of the initial signup process, or when hitting the 'resend confirmation' button (and, yes, I checked the 'spam' folder). This was with a bog standard personal gmail account; I eventually signed up again with a freshly-created Yahoo email, which worked fine (hurray!).

    I realise that ensuring email deliverability is increasingly a ballache, especially to gmail - but might it perhaps be worth adding an "if you don't receive this, please retry with a different email provider"-type note to the confirmation resend page, @rcs1000 ?

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    kle4 said:

    viewcode said:

    Sandpit said:

    Way offtopic, I just bought this badge from a shop in Ukraine.

    To anyone who doubts what the Ukranians think of the Brits at the moment… 🇬🇧 🇺🇦


    I want one
    In fairness the flag seems to be slightly fashionable thing in any case, it seems to pop up around the globe on clothing and tat in some odd places, and not just stamped on flags as a colonial legacy.
    I didn't know the Basque's had a colonial legacy. :tongue:
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