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    TresTres Posts: 2,257
    edited July 2023
    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

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    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    But hasn't that been shown to be nonsense? I thought it now turned out that it's nothing to do with the threshold and that they'd taken his account off him because they didn't like him.
    No, he'd fallen under the threshold, and then had a conversation about if they wanted to ignore their guidelines, and decided that they wouldn't. Also a whole load of stuff has been redacted about where Farage's money was coming from. All we know is it mysteriously dried-up last year.
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    MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,464
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,202
    One thing that hasn’t got as much attention as it should is that when Coutts went looking for financial links to Russia, all they could find were two small appearance fees from RT, yet Farage has been slandered for years about this by the same kind of people who think it’s good that his accounts were closed.
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,125
    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It did occur to them because that was partly what inspired them to look for dirt on him. They even say that there is a risk he would go public.
    Also this:


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coutts-updated-its-client-rules-after-george-floyd-murder-m5nc3krm3

    "When pressed by customers who were concerned their social media accounts would be scrutinised Coutts said the change had been introduced after a “racial equality task force” report.

    Rose, 54, set up the task force after the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in the United States in 2020 and the rise of Black Lives Matter. Coutts said senior leadership team"

    They set up a team to go through the social media accounts of their customers, trying to sniff out Unwoke opinions

    Yes, I'd love to bank with them. Who doesn't want their humourless twat of a bank manager sniffily scrolling through their phone, every few hours, looking for things they might not approve of, so they can take away your debit card
    When you open an account in person with them are you supposed to 'take the knee' ffs!
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,986

    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It did occur to them because that was partly what inspired them to look for dirt on him. They even say that there is a risk he would go public.
    Also this:


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coutts-updated-its-client-rules-after-george-floyd-murder-m5nc3krm3

    "When pressed by customers who were concerned their social media accounts would be scrutinised Coutts said the change had been introduced after a “racial equality task force” report.

    Rose, 54, set up the task force after the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in the United States in 2020 and the rise of Black Lives Matter. Coutts said senior leadership team"

    They set up a team to go through the social media accounts of their customers, trying to sniff out Unwoke opinions

    Yes, I'd love to bank with them. Who doesn't want their humourless twat of a bank manager sniffily scrolling through their phone, every few hours, looking for things they might not approve of, so they can take away your debit card
    No sinister at all.....your bank making sure you have the "correct" opinions. Rather 1984.
    It does raise the question as to the circumstances under which a private individual or business may turn down a customer or client. I used to work as a freelance technical translator, and I once turned down a customer because the material to be translated was basically pseudo-scientific gibberish obviously intended to deceive people. Should I have been allowed to do that? Could the client have prosecuted me for turning them down because I didn't agree with their opinions (which were that such advertising was acceptable)?
    For your own small business, of course. For a regulated public company such as a bank, on the other hand…
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,393
    edited July 2023
    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    Was it a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views?

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,689
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    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    I’ve been asking about it for a while. Trying to get data on what the actual blocks for people getting the ultra basic accounts (no credit) are.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,707
    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It did occur to them because that was partly what inspired them to look for dirt on him. They even say that there is a risk he would go public.
    Also this:


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coutts-updated-its-client-rules-after-george-floyd-murder-m5nc3krm3

    "When pressed by customers who were concerned their social media accounts would be scrutinised Coutts said the change had been introduced after a “racial equality task force” report.

    Rose, 54, set up the task force after the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in the United States in 2020 and the rise of Black Lives Matter. Coutts said senior leadership team"

    They set up a team to go through the social media accounts of their customers, trying to sniff out Unwoke opinions

    Yes, I'd love to bank with them. Who doesn't want their humourless twat of a bank manager sniffily scrolling through their phone, every few hours, looking for things they might not approve of, so they can take away your debit card
    People who populate "racial equality task forces" are almost always left-wing activists and far too many corporations are naïve in taking it at face value and not realising they've admitted a cuckoo into the nest.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 40,039
    edited July 2023
    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    There is a difference between bumping someone out of a bank for his particular political opinions, versus being a PEP. The latter is what counts in regulation AFAICS, and, presumably, in terms of the bank's liability if things go pearshaped.

    The wider issue of bank access is to some extent a separate one - being a PEP is not the only reason to get a CIFAS flag against one's name.

    I see the 'basic bank account' is much mentioned eg below, but what happens if none of the banks want to be socially positive? I don't have enough experience of that end of life (thank goodness).

    https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/locked-out-how-your-bank-could-shut-down-your-financial-life-aKeMd1g3G2XH

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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,986

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,707
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It did occur to them because that was partly what inspired them to look for dirt on him. They even say that there is a risk he would go public.
    Also this:


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coutts-updated-its-client-rules-after-george-floyd-murder-m5nc3krm3

    "When pressed by customers who were concerned their social media accounts would be scrutinised Coutts said the change had been introduced after a “racial equality task force” report.

    Rose, 54, set up the task force after the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in the United States in 2020 and the rise of Black Lives Matter. Coutts said senior leadership team"

    They set up a team to go through the social media accounts of their customers, trying to sniff out Unwoke opinions

    Yes, I'd love to bank with them. Who doesn't want their humourless twat of a bank manager sniffily scrolling through their phone, every few hours, looking for things they might not approve of, so they can take away your debit card
    Silly, especially when the George Floyd case had nothing whatsoever to do with this country.
    That case has caused nothing but trouble.
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,508
    Selebian said:

    ydoethur said:

    Tabman said:

    Only the 10th player to be 99* (or 199* or 299*)

    Poor Alex Tudor has to be the pick of that ten.
    Also the worst bowler in the history of Tests on that list - for the small matter of 299*
    That's an impressively exalted list. Some of the very best players on it, and Tudor the only one not to score a Test century.
    I'd forgotten that Tudor knock!

    Boycott - well, if he'd only been a bit less Boycott he'd have been on 150 by that point :wink:
    The Guardian did a nice article about scores of 99 for which they talked to Tudor about it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jun/08/perfect-analogy-for-cricket-tudor-atherton-jonassen-on-test-99s
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,021

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    He’s an arse but the threshold issue is usually (and Coutts might now enforce it strictly) quite discretionary.

    I had clients who fell below thresholds of cash and investments but I kept them on because you look at the bigger picture - they might be in a position where their future earnings - say a book in NF’s case - will take them over. They might be flying through the legal ranks towards partner status so keeping them on now pays later when their earnings are in the millions per year. They might be a scion of a family and it’s clear they will inherit well and maybe even entice other family into the bank. They could have lower cash value but you can see that their business is something that is likely to sell for a fortune in future.

    So you don’t just keep them on/ditch them based on threshold, if they are below then you look at the business case and the future assets and/influence and contacts they will bring.

    Sacking clients isn’t easy and is best with a call from the MD to explain that the business case is no longer there however we can arrange for you to meet X and open a new account with NatWest or other. No client likes being sacked as they all think they are very important (and it’s the smaller ones like Farage who are usually most difficult). They messed up getting rid of him, they should never have written down what they did for their reasoning, and if they couldn’t make the business case to sack him they should have just kept him on until they found some legal reason they could eject him.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 40,039

    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It did occur to them because that was partly what inspired them to look for dirt on him. They even say that there is a risk he would go public.
    Also this:


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coutts-updated-its-client-rules-after-george-floyd-murder-m5nc3krm3

    "When pressed by customers who were concerned their social media accounts would be scrutinised Coutts said the change had been introduced after a “racial equality task force” report.

    Rose, 54, set up the task force after the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in the United States in 2020 and the rise of Black Lives Matter. Coutts said senior leadership team"

    They set up a team to go through the social media accounts of their customers, trying to sniff out Unwoke opinions

    Yes, I'd love to bank with them. Who doesn't want their humourless twat of a bank manager sniffily scrolling through their phone, every few hours, looking for things they might not approve of, so they can take away your debit card
    People who populate "racial equality task forces" are almost always left-wing activists and far too many corporations are naïve in taking it at face value and not realising they've admitted a cuckoo into the nest.
    Not true. They often get ordered by their bosses to get on with it.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,963
    Selebian said:

    ydoethur said:

    Tabman said:

    Only the 10th player to be 99* (or 199* or 299*)

    Poor Alex Tudor has to be the pick of that ten.
    Also the worst bowler in the history of Tests on that list - for the small matter of 299*
    That's an impressively exalted list. Some of the very best players on it, and Tudor the only one not to score a Test century.
    I'd forgotten that Tudor knock!

    Boycott - well, if he'd only been a bit less Boycott he'd have been on 150 by that point :wink:
    Looking at the scorecard, no one was all that much quicker.
    He got a twenty ball duck in the first innings - and Brearley top scored with 64, at a SR of 34.78.
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,529

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
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    FossFoss Posts: 694
    edited July 2023
    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It did occur to them because that was partly what inspired them to look for dirt on him. They even say that there is a risk he would go public.
    Also this:


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coutts-updated-its-client-rules-after-george-floyd-murder-m5nc3krm3

    "When pressed by customers who were concerned their social media accounts would be scrutinised Coutts said the change had been introduced after a “racial equality task force” report.

    Rose, 54, set up the task force after the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in the United States in 2020 and the rise of Black Lives Matter. Coutts said senior leadership team"

    They set up a team to go through the social media accounts of their customers, trying to sniff out Unwoke opinions

    Yes, I'd love to bank with them. Who doesn't want their humourless twat of a bank manager sniffily scrolling through their phone, every few hours, looking for things they might not approve of, so they can take away your debit card
    No sinister at all.....your bank making sure you have the "correct" opinions. Rather 1984.
    It does raise the question as to the circumstances under which a private individual or business may turn down a customer or client. I used to work as a freelance technical translator, and I once turned down a customer because the material to be translated was basically pseudo-scientific gibberish obviously intended to deceive people. Should I have been allowed to do that? Could the client have prosecuted me for turning them down because I didn't agree with their opinions (which were that such advertising was acceptable)?
    For your own small business, of course. For a regulated public company such as a bank, on the other hand…
    Net neutrality laws block the blocking of unpleasant but not illegal websites.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,018
    This is all looking very comfortable for the openers, surely the match is heading toward a draw
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,125
    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It did occur to them because that was partly what inspired them to look for dirt on him. They even say that there is a risk he would go public.
    Also this:


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coutts-updated-its-client-rules-after-george-floyd-murder-m5nc3krm3

    "When pressed by customers who were concerned their social media accounts would be scrutinised Coutts said the change had been introduced after a “racial equality task force” report.

    Rose, 54, set up the task force after the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in the United States in 2020 and the rise of Black Lives Matter. Coutts said senior leadership team"

    They set up a team to go through the social media accounts of their customers, trying to sniff out Unwoke opinions

    Yes, I'd love to bank with them. Who doesn't want their humourless twat of a bank manager sniffily scrolling through their phone, every few hours, looking for things they might not approve of, so they can take away your debit card
    People who populate "racial equality task forces" are almost always left-wing activists and far too many corporations are naïve in taking it at face value and not realising they've admitted a cuckoo into the nest.
    Not true. They often get ordered by their bosses to get on with it.
    Sounds like you drew a short straw!
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,963

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    While that's a decent rhetorical point, we've had regular discussions about the propensity of banks to be extremely awkward without good explanation.
    (See some of the interminable 'cash' threads, for instance.)
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,336
    ..
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    I’m dying for them to come for those who plop out hoary old clichés.
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,393
    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,336
    Tres said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    But hasn't that been shown to be nonsense? I thought it now turned out that it's nothing to do with the threshold and that they'd taken his account off him because they didn't like him.
    No, he'd fallen under the threshold, and then had a conversation about if they wanted to ignore their guidelines, and decided that they wouldn't. Also a whole load of stuff has been redacted about where Farage's money was coming from. All we know is it mysteriously dried-up last year.
    Sometime around 24/02/22?
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,012

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    Was it a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views?

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    If Nat West/Coutts have done nothing wrong, then they ought not to apologise.

    The fact that it seems they do vet customers' political views, however, suggests they have done something wrong.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,053
    edited July 2023
    The latest person to criticise the banks over the Farage affair?

    Jack McConnell, who was the Labour First Minister of Scotland from 2001 to 2007.

    Interview on Times Radio video.

    "Nigel Farage’s bank account row is ‘shocking’ | Lord McConnell"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obxvLVILS5I
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,393
    edited July 2023
    I do apologise for getting tied up in the Farage banking debate, because I really couldn't give a flying **** about Farage's banking entitlement.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,018
    Leon said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    Nonsense

    I'd defend Corbyn if he was in this position. But he won't ever be, because - for some unfathomable reason - extreme left wing opnions are MORE acceptable than quite moderate right wing opinions

    I'd likewise defend Nick Palmer if HSBC tried to unbank him for being a teenage commie, but the same principle applies, commies are FINE
    Banking whilst muslim seems to have been a crime in the eyes of the err anti-money laundering bods that be.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,707
    Sean_F said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    Was it a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views?

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    If Nat West/Coutts have done nothing wrong, then they ought not to apologise.

    The fact that it seems they do vet customers' political views, however, suggests they have done something wrong.
    I bank with HSBC and I'm pretty sure I don't share all of their "values".
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    SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,520
    edited July 2023

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    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    I’m dying for them to come for those who plop out hoary old clichés.
    Is it still a hoary old cliché when you get it wrong?

    "First they came for the communists"

    ETA: There are various versions, in fact, but I'm pretty sure the original didn't have the jews first.
    ETA2: e.g. this one has socialists, then trade unionists
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,986

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,020

    Sean_F said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    Was it a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views?

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    If Nat West/Coutts have done nothing wrong, then they ought not to apologise.

    The fact that it seems they do vet customers' political views, however, suggests they have done something wrong.
    I bank with HSBC and I'm pretty sure I don't share all of their "values".
    You mean you aren’t pro-money laundering?
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 31,033
    Foss said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It did occur to them because that was partly what inspired them to look for dirt on him. They even say that there is a risk he would go public.
    Also this:


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coutts-updated-its-client-rules-after-george-floyd-murder-m5nc3krm3

    "When pressed by customers who were concerned their social media accounts would be scrutinised Coutts said the change had been introduced after a “racial equality task force” report.

    Rose, 54, set up the task force after the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in the United States in 2020 and the rise of Black Lives Matter. Coutts said senior leadership team"

    They set up a team to go through the social media accounts of their customers, trying to sniff out Unwoke opinions

    Yes, I'd love to bank with them. Who doesn't want their humourless twat of a bank manager sniffily scrolling through their phone, every few hours, looking for things they might not approve of, so they can take away your debit card
    No sinister at all.....your bank making sure you have the "correct" opinions. Rather 1984.
    It does raise the question as to the circumstances under which a private individual or business may turn down a customer or client. I used to work as a freelance technical translator, and I once turned down a customer because the material to be translated was basically pseudo-scientific gibberish obviously intended to deceive people. Should I have been allowed to do that? Could the client have prosecuted me for turning them down because I didn't agree with their opinions (which were that such advertising was acceptable)?
    For your own small business, of course. For a regulated public company such as a bank, on the other hand…
    Net neutrality laws block the blocking of unpleasant but not illegal websites.
    Which is a good thing.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,482
    Selebian said:

    ydoethur said:

    Tabman said:

    Only the 10th player to be 99* (or 199* or 299*)

    Poor Alex Tudor has to be the pick of that ten.
    Also the worst bowler in the history of Tests on that list - for the small matter of 299*
    That's an impressively exalted list. Some of the very best players on it, and Tudor the only one not to score a Test century.
    I'd forgotten that Tudor knock!

    Boycott - well, if he'd only been a bit less Boycott he'd have been on 150 by that point :wink:
    He was batting for a draw, so it was probably even more turgid than usual.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,083

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.

    Dear @Mexicanpete,

    We, your bank, have noticed that you post a lot on politicalbetting.com

    You may think you are anonymous, but the data you can buy these days…. Plus we scraped the cookies in your browser when you used online banking.

    We have introduced a strict anti-gambling policy, so we are terminating your account, immediately. In addition, to be proactive in our corporate citizenship, we have flagged you as a potential problem gambler on the various interbank systems. This will mean that all the other banks will terminate any accounts you have.

    Sincerely,

    Megabank

    P.S. Please click here to fill out a survey on how well we did in this communication.

    You may think this is fictional, but I think in the proposed gambling regulation changes they are thinking of something like that. It's certainly the case that bookmakers share details of successful gamblers and either deny them or throttle them.

    Incidentally I applied for a job some time ago which involved security clearance at DV level. I've only ever gone as far as SC and I'd've had to give them details of my social media accounts. I don't know what they would have thought of my use of www.politicalbetting.com, but I doubt they'd be impressed.

    (Plus, lest we forget, I was constrained from posting BTL (2020-2022?) due to my status of "Responsible Person" in my previous job. I mention because it's relevant, but also because it makes me sound really posh... :) )
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,986

    I do apologise for getting tied up in the Farage banking debate, because I really couldn't give a flying **** about Farage's banking entitlement.

    But you should give a flying **** about the tens of thousands of people similarly affected, but without the media profile of Farage.
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    MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,464
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    No. This is 99% projection by the media. GB News, DM and the Telegraph haven't given a single comment piece to the unbanked, or those who struggle to find a banking service. Now because Nigel's been hit they care, now its endless 'think of the politicians'. Now parliament is rushing through new regulation. Its not different to the ULEZ/low traffic area furore.

    Yes a few do care about the unbanked but not the majority, the majority couldn't give a fuck.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,482

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It did occur to them because that was partly what inspired them to look for dirt on him. They even say that there is a risk he would go public.
    Also this:


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coutts-updated-its-client-rules-after-george-floyd-murder-m5nc3krm3

    "When pressed by customers who were concerned their social media accounts would be scrutinised Coutts said the change had been introduced after a “racial equality task force” report.

    Rose, 54, set up the task force after the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in the United States in 2020 and the rise of Black Lives Matter. Coutts said senior leadership team"

    They set up a team to go through the social media accounts of their customers, trying to sniff out Unwoke opinions

    Yes, I'd love to bank with them. Who doesn't want their humourless twat of a bank manager sniffily scrolling through their phone, every few hours, looking for things they might not approve of, so they can take away your debit card
    Silly, especially when the George Floyd case had nothing whatsoever to do with this country.
    That case has caused nothing but trouble.
    Particularly to George Floyd.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,336
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    Selebian said:

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    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    I’m dying for them to come for those who plop out hoary old clichés.
    Is it still a hoary old cliché when you get it wrong?

    "First they came for the communists"
    THEY WILL BE FIRST UP AGAINST A WALL!
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,986
    edited July 2023

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    No. This is 99% projection by the media. GB News, DM and the Telegraph haven't given a single comment piece to the unbanked, or those who struggle to find a banking service. Now because Nigel's been hit they care, now its endless 'think of the politicians'. Now parliament is rushing through new regulation. Its not different to the ULEZ/low traffic area furore.

    Yes a few do care about the unbanked but not the majority, the majority couldn't give a fuck.
    Indeed, so left-wing politicians and media should be all over this issue, as it applies to many thousands of ordinary people.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,400

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    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    It's helpful from a conservation of energy perspective when a high profile issue arises where one gives not a single fuck and 'posho private bank versus Nigel Farage' fits the bill nicely.
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,393
    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,336
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    Andy_JS said:

    The latest person to criticise the banks over the Farage affair?

    Jack McConnell, who was the Labour First Minister of Scotland from 2001 to 2007.

    Interview on Times Radio video.

    "Nigel Farage’s bank account row is ‘shocking’ | Lord McConnell"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obxvLVILS5I

    Well, now the political colossi have weighed in..
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,083
    Andy_JS said:

    ...Jack McConnell, who was the Labour First Minister of Scotland from 2001 to 2007...

    God, you say it out loud it sounds like science fiction. A Labour FMS? Good lord, did such a cratur exist? :):)
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    MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,464
    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    While that's a decent rhetorical point, we've had regular discussions about the propensity of banks to be extremely awkward without good explanation.
    (See some of the interminable 'cash' threads, for instance.)
    True, @Malmesbury seems to have experience in this area. But we are not the news channels and dailies who now seem to care very much.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,707
    RobD said:

    Sean_F said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    Was it a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views?

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    If Nat West/Coutts have done nothing wrong, then they ought not to apologise.

    The fact that it seems they do vet customers' political views, however, suggests they have done something wrong.
    I bank with HSBC and I'm pretty sure I don't share all of their "values".
    You mean you aren’t pro-money laundering?
    Or their borderless globalism, turgid and pointless bureaucracy and apologism for China.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,018

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
    Could end up in the European court of human rights.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,482
    edited July 2023
    Pulpstar said:

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
    Could end up in the European court of human rights.
    That would be funny but seems unlikely if he can't access banking services.

    I mean, we all know lawyers hate cash...
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,336
    viewcode said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ...Jack McConnell, who was the Labour First Minister of Scotland from 2001 to 2007...

    God, you say it out loud it sounds like science fiction. A Labour FMS? Good lord, did such a cratur exist? :):)
    There is never a good excuse not to post this pic


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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,689
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    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    The standard process for Coutts getting rid of a client involves them transferring the account to NatWest on a set date.

    So if you do nothing (don’t answer letters) you end up with NatWest.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,482
    Australia off to far too good a start.
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 31,033
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    Sandpit said:

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    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    No. This is 99% projection by the media. GB News, DM and the Telegraph haven't given a single comment piece to the unbanked, or those who struggle to find a banking service. Now because Nigel's been hit they care, now its endless 'think of the politicians'. Now parliament is rushing through new regulation. Its not different to the ULEZ/low traffic area furore.

    Yes a few do care about the unbanked but not the majority, the majority couldn't give a fuck.
    You might have missed it but we have had a lot of discussion of the unbanked on here recently long before the Farage farrago. Mostly because of those who think cash is pointless and ignore the fact that for many it is a necessity.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,986

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
    Yes, I assume that Dame Alison’s having dinner with the BBC journalist, just before that same BBC journalist said that Farage was a poor who didn’t deserve an account, might not land in the bank’s favour.

    Rule #1 of private banking, is discretion. If you don’t have that…

    So Farage will now spend months keeping them in the news, as the private bank that outs you to the media for having bad views.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,963

    RobD said:

    Sean_F said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    Was it a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views?

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    If Nat West/Coutts have done nothing wrong, then they ought not to apologise.

    The fact that it seems they do vet customers' political views, however, suggests they have done something wrong.
    I bank with HSBC and I'm pretty sure I don't share all of their "values".
    You mean you aren’t pro-money laundering?
    Or their borderless globalism, turgid and pointless bureaucracy and apologism for China.
    They used to be quite a good banks for small businesses some time back. They're impossible to deal with these days.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,400
    Pulpstar said:

    This is all looking very comfortable for the openers, surely the match is heading toward a draw

    Looks that way. But wickets can really cluster. I still give us a decent chance.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,482
    edited July 2023
    Did he edge that? I didn't think so.

    Edit - oooft! Tiniest of nicks!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,053
    England could have taken the first wicket. Australia review.
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,508

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    No. This is 99% projection by the media. GB News, DM and the Telegraph haven't given a single comment piece to the unbanked, or those who struggle to find a banking service. Now because Nigel's been hit they care, now its endless 'think of the politicians'. Now parliament is rushing through new regulation. Its not different to the ULEZ/low traffic area furore.

    Yes a few do care about the unbanked but not the majority, the majority couldn't give a fuck.
    You might have missed it but we have had a lot of discussion of the unbanked on here recently long before the Farage farrago. Mostly because of those who think cash is pointless and ignore the fact that for many it is a necessity.
    The Guardian have done a few articles about it over the last several years. People suddenly having their bank accounts closed and not being told why.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,986
    edited July 2023
    Got him!

    He reviews it, does he not know he hit the ball?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,018
    ydoethur said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
    Could end up in the European court of human rights.
    That would be funny but seems unlikely if he can't access banking services.

    I mean, we all know lawyers hate cash...
    What's happened to his money, if he can't find an alternate bank will Coutts give him half a million in crisp 20s ?
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    IcarusIcarus Posts: 914
    I think Selby is the first by election where the number of votes cast for Labour actually showed an increase on the General Election - They all came from the drop in Liberal Democrat vote. The fact that the Green vote was unchanged at 1838 (GE: 1823) is worrying as it might mean that the Conservatives hang on to a few seats that Labour and Liberal Democrats "should" win at the General Election. Really Labour and the Liberal Democrats should do a deal with them to give the Greens a free run at a couple of seats in return them for dropping out of the marginal ones- it won't happen though!
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,482
    edited July 2023
    Pulpstar said:

    ydoethur said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
    Could end up in the European court of human rights.
    That would be funny but seems unlikely if he can't access banking services.

    I mean, we all know lawyers hate cash...
    What's happened to his money, if he can't find an alternate bank will Coutts give him half a million in crisp 20s ?
    Doesn't he automatically move to NatWest if his account is closed for falling below threshold?

    Mind you, it would be hilarious to see him being paid cash...
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    TresTres Posts: 2,257
    Labour now citing students from Brunel uni being on their HoliBobs for their failure to take Uxbridge.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,689
    A

    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    While that's a decent rhetorical point, we've had regular discussions about the propensity of banks to be extremely awkward without good explanation.
    (See some of the interminable 'cash' threads, for instance.)
    True, @Malmesbury seems to have experience in this area. But we are not the news channels and dailies who now seem to care very much.
    You mean the news is generally superficial and facile?


    The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country;

    The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country;

    The Times is read by the people who actually do run the country;

    the Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country;

    the Financial Times is read by people who own the country;

    the Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country, and the Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.

    Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun?

    Bernard: Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,018
    Sandpit said:

    Got him!

    He reviews it, does he not know he hit the ball?

    I never remember nicking it quite that fine when I played at school. Perhaps it's difficult to feel if it's such a fine nick ?
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,053
    edited July 2023
    Icarus said:

    I think Selby is the first by election where the number of votes cast for Labour actually showed an increase on the General Election - They all came from the drop in Liberal Democrat vote. The fact that the Green vote was unchanged at 1838 (GE: 1823) is worrying as it might mean that the Conservatives hang on to a few seats that Labour and Liberal Democrats "should" win at the General Election. Really Labour and the Liberal Democrats should do a deal with them to give the Greens a free run at a couple of seats in return them for dropping out of the marginal ones- it won't happen though!

    There was a deal between the LDs and Greens in a few seats at the last election. Bristol West was one of them.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,482
    Andy_JS said:

    Icarus said:

    I think Selby is the first by election where the number of votes cast for Labour actually showed an increase on the General Election - They all came from the drop in Liberal Democrat vote. The fact that the Green vote was unchanged at 1838 (GE: 1823) is worrying as it might mean that the Conservatives hang on to a few seats that Labour and Liberal Democrats "should" win at the General Election. Really Labour and the Liberal Democrats should do a deal with them to give the Greens a free run at a couple of seats in return them for dropping out of the marginal ones- it won't happen though!

    There was a deal between the LDs and Greens in a few seats at the last election.
    And a twattish deal it was.
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    OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,199
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

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    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
    Yes, I assume that Dame Alison’s having dinner with the BBC journalist, just before that same BBC journalist said that Farage was a poor who didn’t deserve an account, might not land in the bank’s favour.

    Rule #1 of private banking, is discretion. If you don’t have that…

    So Farage will now spend months keeping them in the news, as the private bank that outs you to the media for having bad views.
    The interesting question - is anyone asking it? - is why does NF want to be in the news this much all of a sudden? I saw he was all over the Daily Mail front page this morning when I was in Sainsbury's. Is he on manoeuvres politically? Or is it just part of the grift operation? If it is the former I am guessing Sunak should be worried.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,689
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    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
    Yes, I assume that Dame Alison’s having dinner with the BBC journalist, just before that same BBC journalist said that Farage was a poor who didn’t deserve an account, might not land in the bank’s favour.

    Rule #1 of private banking, is discretion. If you don’t have that…

    So Farage will now spend months keeping them in the news, as the private bank that outs you to the media for having bad views.
    The interesting question - is anyone asking it? - is why does NF want to be in the news this much all of a sudden? I saw he was all over the Daily Mail front page this morning when I was in Sainsbury's. Is he on manoeuvres politically? Or is it just part of the grift operation? If it is the former I am guessing Sunak should be worried.
    Why wouldn’t he want to stick it to Coutts?

    There’s no downside in that for him.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,986

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
    Yes, I assume that Dame Alison’s having dinner with the BBC journalist, just before that same BBC journalist said that Farage was a poor who didn’t deserve an account, might not land in the bank’s favour.

    Rule #1 of private banking, is discretion. If you don’t have that…

    So Farage will now spend months keeping them in the news, as the private bank that outs you to the media for having bad views.
    The interesting question - is anyone asking it? - is why does NF want to be in the news this much all of a sudden? I saw he was all over the Daily Mail front page this morning when I was in Sainsbury's. Is he on manoeuvres politically? Or is it just part of the grift operation? If it is the former I am guessing Sunak should be worried.
    I actually don’t think he’s looking to a return to politics, he’s earning much better money as a media commentator, especially in the US.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,482

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Yes! Too much rush to judgement by folks who don't like Farage.

    Don't much like him myself. HOWEVER, the story had a fishy smell from the get-go. NOT (strangely?) due to NF, but rather because banksters were cancelling accounts without (apparently) warning to depositors OR sufficient explanation.

    Now it turns out that Farage indeed had a legitimate gripe.

    AND it would appear (to an non-lawyer and non-UKer) that NF has excellent grounds for suing Coutts for defamation or such like. For a LARGE amount of lucre.

    I sure as heck would!
    And judging by his financial affairs he could do with the money.
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    Selebian said:

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    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

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    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    I’m dying for them to come for those who plop out hoary old clichés.
    Is it still a hoary old cliché when you get it wrong?

    "First they came for the communists"
    THEY WILL BE FIRST UP AGAINST A WALL!
    How long until you won't be able to buy a Big Mac unless you support public ownership of the railways?
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    MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,464

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    No. This is 99% projection by the media. GB News, DM and the Telegraph haven't given a single comment piece to the unbanked, or those who struggle to find a banking service. Now because Nigel's been hit they care, now its endless 'think of the politicians'. Now parliament is rushing through new regulation. Its not different to the ULEZ/low traffic area furore.

    Yes a few do care about the unbanked but not the majority, the majority couldn't give a fuck.
    You might have missed it but we have had a lot of discussion of the unbanked on here recently long before the Farage farrago. Mostly because of those who think cash is pointless and ignore the fact that for many it is a necessity.
    Not that it matters: I do understand why we should care about unbanking Farrage and a bank account should be a human right in the 21st century. It just seems doubtful that all this media heat will actually help the people who struggle to get or retain an account.

    The absurdity of the government rushing to protect politicians from their own legislation when they've spent 20+ years fucking over the postmasters just gets to me.
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    TresTres Posts: 2,257
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Yes! Too much rush to judgement by folks who don't like Farage.

    Don't much like him myself. HOWEVER, the story had a fishy smell from the get-go. NOT (strangely?) due to NF, but rather because banksters were cancelling accounts without (apparently) warning to depositors OR sufficient explanation.

    Now it turns out that Farage indeed had a legitimate gripe.

    AND it would appear (to an non-lawyer and non-UKer) that NF has excellent grounds for suing Coutts for defamation or such like. For a LARGE amount of lucre.

    I sure as heck would!
    And judging by his financial affairs he could do with the money.
    Not sure suing the organisation that knows precisely where his money has been coming from would be in his interests.
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,686
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Yes! Too much rush to judgement by folks who don't like Farage.

    Don't much like him myself. HOWEVER, the story had a fishy smell from the get-go. NOT (strangely?) due to NF, but rather because banksters were cancelling accounts without (apparently) warning to depositors OR sufficient explanation.

    Now it turns out that Farage indeed had a legitimate gripe.

    AND it would appear (to an non-lawyer and non-UKer) that NF has excellent grounds for suing Coutts for defamation or such like. For a LARGE amount of lucre.

    I sure as heck would!
    And judging by his financial affairs he could do with the money.
    So fucking what?

    I have zero use for Farage as a politico or anything else, another Trump suckup in IMHO.

    Does NOT absolve Coutts from lying about "his financial affairs".
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,686
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
    Yes, I assume that Dame Alison’s having dinner with the BBC journalist, just before that same BBC journalist said that Farage was a poor who didn’t deserve an account, might not land in the bank’s favour.

    Rule #1 of private banking, is discretion. If you don’t have that…

    So Farage will now spend months keeping them in the news, as the private bank that outs you to the media for having bad views.
    The interesting question - is anyone asking it? - is why does NF want to be in the news this much all of a sudden? I saw he was all over the Daily Mail front page this morning when I was in Sainsbury's. Is he on manoeuvres politically? Or is it just part of the grift operation? If it is the former I am guessing Sunak should be worried.
    I actually don’t think he’s looking to a return to politics, he’s earning much better money as a media commentator, especially in the US.
    Really? Have yet to run into anyone, at least in the back-of-beyond called Seattle, who's ever heard of Farage.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,020
    Tres said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Yes! Too much rush to judgement by folks who don't like Farage.

    Don't much like him myself. HOWEVER, the story had a fishy smell from the get-go. NOT (strangely?) due to NF, but rather because banksters were cancelling accounts without (apparently) warning to depositors OR sufficient explanation.

    Now it turns out that Farage indeed had a legitimate gripe.

    AND it would appear (to an non-lawyer and non-UKer) that NF has excellent grounds for suing Coutts for defamation or such like. For a LARGE amount of lucre.

    I sure as heck would!
    And judging by his financial affairs he could do with the money.
    Not sure suing the organisation that knows precisely where his money has been coming from would be in his interests.
    But they found no evidence of wrongdoing, hence the dossier on his Twitter account used to justify closing his account.
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,508
    kinabalu said:

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    Selebian said:

    ..

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    I’m dying for them to come for those who plop out hoary old clichés.
    Is it still a hoary old cliché when you get it wrong?

    "First they came for the communists"
    THEY WILL BE FIRST UP AGAINST A WALL!
    How long until you won't be able to buy a Big Mac unless you support public ownership of the railways?
    BMI measurements on the way in, extra tax to pay if you're overweight...
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,686
    Tres said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Yes! Too much rush to judgement by folks who don't like Farage.

    Don't much like him myself. HOWEVER, the story had a fishy smell from the get-go. NOT (strangely?) due to NF, but rather because banksters were cancelling accounts without (apparently) warning to depositors OR sufficient explanation.

    Now it turns out that Farage indeed had a legitimate gripe.

    AND it would appear (to an non-lawyer and non-UKer) that NF has excellent grounds for suing Coutts for defamation or such like. For a LARGE amount of lucre.

    I sure as heck would!
    And judging by his financial affairs he could do with the money.
    Not sure suing the organisation that knows precisely where his money has been coming from would be in his interests.
    My guess is that that would never come out.

    As Coutts would likely decide it was in IT's best interest to fold like a cheap suit, and settle out of court?
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,163
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
    Yes, I assume that Dame Alison’s having dinner with the BBC journalist, just before that same BBC journalist said that Farage was a poor who didn’t deserve an account, might not land in the bank’s favour.

    Rule #1 of private banking, is discretion. If you don’t have that…

    So Farage will now spend months keeping them in the news, as the private bank that outs you to the media for having bad views.
    The interesting question - is anyone asking it? - is why does NF want to be in the news this much all of a sudden? I saw he was all over the Daily Mail front page this morning when I was in Sainsbury's. Is he on manoeuvres politically? Or is it just part of the grift operation? If it is the former I am guessing Sunak should be worried.
    I actually don’t think he’s looking to a return to politics, he’s earning much better money as a media commentator, especially in the US.
    He used to be a regular on Fox, but I haven't seen him in at least a year, maybe two.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,400

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    It was a very big deal when the boot was on the other foot and the Economic League blackballed all sorts of people for having unacceptable inappropriate non- right-wing views.

    This is all about indulging Farage, if anything positive has come out of it great.But how many on here batting for Farage gave a monkeys about the work of the Economic League?
    I had never heard of the economic league, and looking them up, I see they were wound up in 1993. So as far as whataboutery goes, this seems somewhat strained.
    It was a far more sinister operation than Natwest asking Farage to transfer from Coutts to a High Street bank, but hey ho, it's all about Nige. Let's give him some compo to push him back over the threshold.
    They didn’t ask him to move from a Coutts account to a High St account.

    They closed his account with Coutts, and belatedly offerered him a High St account after a week of being in the papers.
    And now it smells very much like he has rejected Dame Alison's apology so he can pursue compo with Lawyers4You. We shall see in due course.
    Yes, I assume that Dame Alison’s having dinner with the BBC journalist, just before that same BBC journalist said that Farage was a poor who didn’t deserve an account, might not land in the bank’s favour.

    Rule #1 of private banking, is discretion. If you don’t have that…

    So Farage will now spend months keeping them in the news, as the private bank that outs you to the media for having bad views.
    The interesting question - is anyone asking it? - is why does NF want to be in the news this much all of a sudden? I saw he was all over the Daily Mail front page this morning when I was in Sainsbury's. Is he on manoeuvres politically? Or is it just part of the grift operation? If it is the former I am guessing Sunak should be worried.
    My sense is he'll be fancying 'doing something' in the coming election scenario. No-one has anything like his heft in the hard right space. He's about money, yes, but I don't think he's only about money.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,053
    edited July 2023
    Odd how the English cricket administrators didn't guess that not holding an Ashes match in the north of England wouldn't cause a lot of complaints. Pretty obvious that it would do, and rightly so IMO. (Trent Bridge missed out this year, because of only playing 5 matches instead of 6).
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,012

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Yes! Too much rush to judgement by folks who don't like Farage.

    Don't much like him myself. HOWEVER, the story had a fishy smell from the get-go. NOT (strangely?) due to NF, but rather because banksters were cancelling accounts without (apparently) warning to depositors OR sufficient explanation.

    Now it turns out that Farage indeed had a legitimate gripe.

    AND it would appear (to an non-lawyer and non-UKer) that NF has excellent grounds for suing Coutts for defamation or such like. For a LARGE amount of lucre.

    I sure as heck would!
    There are too many cases of people having their accounts closed, because a computer flagged them up a risk, without that person being able to put their side of the case.
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    londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,231
    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Icarus said:

    I think Selby is the first by election where the number of votes cast for Labour actually showed an increase on the General Election - They all came from the drop in Liberal Democrat vote. The fact that the Green vote was unchanged at 1838 (GE: 1823) is worrying as it might mean that the Conservatives hang on to a few seats that Labour and Liberal Democrats "should" win at the General Election. Really Labour and the Liberal Democrats should do a deal with them to give the Greens a free run at a couple of seats in return them for dropping out of the marginal ones- it won't happen though!

    There was a deal between the LDs and Greens in a few seats at the last election.
    And a twattish deal it was.
    Voter's really don't like such 'deals'!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,053
    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Icarus said:

    I think Selby is the first by election where the number of votes cast for Labour actually showed an increase on the General Election - They all came from the drop in Liberal Democrat vote. The fact that the Green vote was unchanged at 1838 (GE: 1823) is worrying as it might mean that the Conservatives hang on to a few seats that Labour and Liberal Democrats "should" win at the General Election. Really Labour and the Liberal Democrats should do a deal with them to give the Greens a free run at a couple of seats in return them for dropping out of the marginal ones- it won't happen though!

    There was a deal between the LDs and Greens in a few seats at the last election.
    And a twattish deal it was.
    Cannock Chase was one of them IIRC.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,689
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    Tres said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Yes! Too much rush to judgement by folks who don't like Farage.

    Don't much like him myself. HOWEVER, the story had a fishy smell from the get-go. NOT (strangely?) due to NF, but rather because banksters were cancelling accounts without (apparently) warning to depositors OR sufficient explanation.

    Now it turns out that Farage indeed had a legitimate gripe.

    AND it would appear (to an non-lawyer and non-UKer) that NF has excellent grounds for suing Coutts for defamation or such like. For a LARGE amount of lucre.

    I sure as heck would!
    And judging by his financial affairs he could do with the money.
    Not sure suing the organisation that knows precisely where his money has been coming from would be in his interests.
    My guess is that that would never come out.

    As Coutts would likely decide it was in IT's best interest to fold like a cheap suit, and settle out of court?
    In the leaked documents, they tried that, and couldn’t find anything to justify removing the account on the basis of where his money came from.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,689

    kinabalu said:

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    Selebian said:

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    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    I’m dying for them to come for those who plop out hoary old clichés.
    Is it still a hoary old cliché when you get it wrong?

    "First they came for the communists"
    THEY WILL BE FIRST UP AGAINST A WALL!
    How long until you won't be able to buy a Big Mac unless you support public ownership of the railways?
    BMI measurements on the way in, extra tax to pay if you're overweight...
    People have already suggested withdrawing NHS access for people with the wrong lifestyle.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,053
    edited July 2023
    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Yes! Too much rush to judgement by folks who don't like Farage.

    Don't much like him myself. HOWEVER, the story had a fishy smell from the get-go. NOT (strangely?) due to NF, but rather because banksters were cancelling accounts without (apparently) warning to depositors OR sufficient explanation.

    Now it turns out that Farage indeed had a legitimate gripe.

    AND it would appear (to an non-lawyer and non-UKer) that NF has excellent grounds for suing Coutts for defamation or such like. For a LARGE amount of lucre.

    I sure as heck would!
    There are too many cases of people having their accounts closed, because a computer flagged them up a risk, without that person being able to put their side of the case.
    There have also been cases of people trying to take a couple of thousand pounds of their own money out of their bank account in cash, and being treated like potential money launderers for doing so.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,020
    edited July 2023

    kinabalu said:

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    Selebian said:

    ..

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    I’m dying for them to come for those who plop out hoary old clichés.
    Is it still a hoary old cliché when you get it wrong?

    "First they came for the communists"
    THEY WILL BE FIRST UP AGAINST A WALL!
    How long until you won't be able to buy a Big Mac unless you support public ownership of the railways?
    BMI measurements on the way in, extra tax to pay if you're overweight...
    People have already suggested withdrawing NHS access for people with the wrong lifestyle.
    Lifestyle choices such as voting Conservative.

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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,686

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    No. This is 99% projection by the media. GB News, DM and the Telegraph haven't given a single comment piece to the unbanked, or those who struggle to find a banking service. Now because Nigel's been hit they care, now its endless 'think of the politicians'. Now parliament is rushing through new regulation. Its not different to the ULEZ/low traffic area furore.

    Yes a few do care about the unbanked but not the majority, the majority couldn't give a fuck.
    You might have missed it but we have had a lot of discussion of the unbanked on here recently long before the Farage farrago. Mostly because of those who think cash is pointless and ignore the fact that for many it is a necessity.
    Not that it matters: I do understand why we should care about unbanking Farrage and a bank account should be a human right in the 21st century. It just seems doubtful that all this media heat will actually help the people who struggle to get or retain an account.

    The absurdity of the government rushing to protect politicians from their own legislation when they've spent 20+ years fucking over the postmasters just gets to me.
    Well, sometimes it takes JUST this kind of high-profile victim, and villain, to get the ball rolling in righ direction.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,887
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    This is a very frequent misquote, the original...

    "First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

    —Martin Niemöller

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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 20,884
    Carnyx said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    Would you really like it if you lived in a country where you could be denied banking on the basis of your political opinions?
    There is a difference between bumping someone out of a bank for his particular political opinions, versus being a PEP. The latter is what counts in regulation AFAICS, and, presumably, in terms of the bank's liability if things go pearshaped.

    The wider issue of bank access is to some extent a separate one - being a PEP is not the only reason to get a CIFAS flag against one's name.

    I see the 'basic bank account' is much mentioned eg below, but what happens if none of the banks want to be socially positive? I don't have enough experience of that end of life (thank goodness).

    https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/locked-out-how-your-bank-could-shut-down-your-financial-life-aKeMd1g3G2XH

    You become a non person, unable to access housing or employment, so turn to criminality to survive or leave the country if you have the initiative otherwise homelessness. It is certainly a worse punishment than probation, fines, or community service and potentially worse than prison yet can be assigned to you by a faceless algorithm or incorrect data you are not allowed to see.

    And no one on the left or centre of pb.com seem to care because Farage.
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,508
    edited July 2023
    Andy_JS said:

    Odd how the English cricket administrators didn't guess that not holding an Ashes match in the north of England wouldn't cause a lot of complaints. Pretty obvious that it would do, and rightly so IMO. (Trent Bridge missed out this year, because of only playing 5 matches instead of 6).

    Trent Bridge did have the women's Ashes Test match though.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,202
    Tres said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Yes! Too much rush to judgement by folks who don't like Farage.

    Don't much like him myself. HOWEVER, the story had a fishy smell from the get-go. NOT (strangely?) due to NF, but rather because banksters were cancelling accounts without (apparently) warning to depositors OR sufficient explanation.

    Now it turns out that Farage indeed had a legitimate gripe.

    AND it would appear (to an non-lawyer and non-UKer) that NF has excellent grounds for suing Coutts for defamation or such like. For a LARGE amount of lucre.

    I sure as heck would!
    And judging by his financial affairs he could do with the money.
    Not sure suing the organisation that knows precisely where his money has been coming from would be in his interests.
    He's owed an apology from Chris Bryant based on this part of the Coutts dossier:

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    SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,520
    edited July 2023
    RobD said:

    kinabalu said:

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    Selebian said:

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    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

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    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    I’m dying for them to come for those who plop out hoary old clichés.
    Is it still a hoary old cliché when you get it wrong?

    "First they came for the communists"
    THEY WILL BE FIRST UP AGAINST A WALL!
    How long until you won't be able to buy a Big Mac unless you support public ownership of the railways?
    BMI measurements on the way in, extra tax to pay if you're overweight...
    People have already suggested withdrawing NHS access for people with the wrong lifestyle.
    Lifestyle choices such as voting Conservative.

    Doesn't that lifestyle choice withdraw NHS access for everyone? :wink:
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,963
    RIP Tony Bennett.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,400

    kinabalu said:

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    Selebian said:

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    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    I’m dying for them to come for those who plop out hoary old clichés.
    Is it still a hoary old cliché when you get it wrong?

    "First they came for the communists"
    THEY WILL BE FIRST UP AGAINST A WALL!
    How long until you won't be able to buy a Big Mac unless you support public ownership of the railways?
    BMI measurements on the way in, extra tax to pay if you're overweight...
    Sure as eggs it's coming.
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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 20,884
    RobD said:

    kinabalu said:

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    Selebian said:

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    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Now that's a different story, and one that is a major issue for breadline Britain.

    I would love to have seen Farage reduced to joining a credit union.
    I find it instructive that most left-wingers online are much happier laughing at Farage, than they are looking at the same issue as it affects tens of thousands of poorer people, many of whom now find themselves totally excluded from society as a result.
    Didn't see any one mentioning the plight of the little people before big Nige got unbanked. Much like the plight of the smalls in London, no one cares until their right to pollute the city is infringed.
    First they came for the Jews…
    I’m dying for them to come for those who plop out hoary old clichés.
    Is it still a hoary old cliché when you get it wrong?

    "First they came for the communists"
    THEY WILL BE FIRST UP AGAINST A WALL!
    How long until you won't be able to buy a Big Mac unless you support public ownership of the railways?
    BMI measurements on the way in, extra tax to pay if you're overweight...
    People have already suggested withdrawing NHS access for people with the wrong lifestyle.
    Lifestyle choices such as voting Conservative.

    That is not a lifestyle choice, more a negative externality.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,963

    Tres said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Phil said:

    Cookie said:

    Phil said:

    Leon said:

    I was joking about the transphobia thing but it turns out that is ACTUALLY one of the reasons Coutts kicked out Farage. Transphobia

    "The bank reportedly cited Mr Farage’s retweet of a joke by comedian Ricky Gervais about trans women "

    Could this get any worse? Hopefully, yes. Hilarious


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bank-account-coutts-b2379476.html

    Coutts have comprehensively f*cked up the PR on this. Quite how I’ve no idea: did it not occur to them that booted Farage out of their bank might cause them some political difficulties?
    It doesn't occur to people like that that everyone doesn't think like they do. Because they make sure anyone who doesn't think like they do keeps quiet about it.
    Sure, but if they didn’t like him why did they lie to him about why they were giving him the boot in the first place?

    It’s the lies that have dragged this whole thing into the limelight. If they’d just transferred him to NatWest & told him to lump it he’d probably have (grumpily) accepted it.
    An argument between a bank and Farage.
    Can't they both lose ?
    They have.
    It's an odd one.

    A bank that is unattainable for the great unwashed, who for the most part care not a jot for its existence, has shot it's own foot off by telling an elitist tosspot that he no longer has enough cash for their elitist service and has to join the queue on the high street with the rest of us.
    There’s a massive difference between a bank not wanting to give you an account, and your existing bank deciding to close your account for spurious reasons.
    Oh behave. He fell below the threshold and he's an ar**. He sold the original story as "I am a national treasure and I have to leave this country because I cannot get a bank account, because of he woke banks". This story has become bigger as his ego has been inflated by his shills.

    Why are we pandering to this self- indulgent t***? If all the high street banks had refused Corbyn a bank account we would be quite comfortable that an old anti- Semite apologist was being shown the door. We'd have had a whip round for his ferry ticket.
    The left wing attack should be that Farage has drawn attention to a much wider problem, whereby tens of thousands of ordinary people have had their bank accounts arbitrarily closed.
    Yes! Too much rush to judgement by folks who don't like Farage.

    Don't much like him myself. HOWEVER, the story had a fishy smell from the get-go. NOT (strangely?) due to NF, but rather because banksters were cancelling accounts without (apparently) warning to depositors OR sufficient explanation.

    Now it turns out that Farage indeed had a legitimate gripe.

    AND it would appear (to an non-lawyer and non-UKer) that NF has excellent grounds for suing Coutts for defamation or such like. For a LARGE amount of lucre.

    I sure as heck would!
    And judging by his financial affairs he could do with the money.
    Not sure suing the organisation that knows precisely where his money has been coming from would be in his interests.
    He's owed an apology from Chris Bryant based on this part of the Coutts dossier:

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    First he owes all of us an apology for peddling the Turkey bollocks.
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