Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses.
Treat yourself. Search for the Jenrick / Shapps / Dowden "Lemon Party" tribute. Proper LOL.
3. If AI is so bloody clever, why can't it automatically remove traffic noise like headphones can? 4. And if it can't, why doesn't someone invent directional microphones? 5. And if they have, is GBNews just inept or deliberately undermining Labour spox?
I think the last one is probably closest to the truth - at least the inept bit.
Edit - I was genuinely surprised to see Eamonn Holmes trying to eat his breakfast whilst presenting the newspaper review this morning. No rule against it of course but it just looked... sloppy.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
Interestingly, around the same sort of time as the Stephen Milligan incident, there was a Stockport councillor who died in very similar circumstances. But rather than Milligan's rather racy get-up, he was dressed in an old lady's dressing gown. A grim metaphor for the mundanity of municipal politics.
I wonder if we will get a snap election this year. The tories have zero benefits from waiting. The mortgage crisis is going to wipe them out even more than now. On the other hand, Sunak's hand could be forced if there is a sudden defection of red seat MPs or a spliter group insist on forming a new party on the right.
There was a well known poker player whose abilities were really overblown (her brother was really the one ahead of thr curve who passed on tactics), who got lets just say got more than a reputation as a grifter and not trustworthy at all....they now are a "go to" person for tv, media, podcasts and corporates talking about strategic thinking. They have made many times more out of this new grift than they ever did at poker.
I'd say you're talking about Vicky Cohen Mitchell but I can't recall when she had an "untrustworthy" reputation.
No absolutely not Vicky Cohen. Or Liv boeree. Both highly intelligent woman who have excellent reputation in the poker community and have career involving "strategic thinking".
Vicky Cohen actually gave up a very lucrative sponsorship with PokerStars at protest at how they treated some of the players. Which got her lots of good will and excellent standing.
Am talking about Annie Duke.
That would have been my guess. I bought Duke's Thinking in Bets and if anyone can tell me how it ends, don't bother. Also VCM just texted me that it's Coren not Cohen.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It felt odd liking that. Obviously it wasn't a like for what happened but a like for @Richard_Tyndall being on the ball
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
There was the chap with the glass table and the other chap with an orange and a couple of chaps who smacked bottoms.
There was a well known poker player whose abilities were really overblown (her brother was really the one ahead of thr curve who passed on tactics), who got lets just say got more than a reputation as a grifter and not trustworthy at all....they now are a "go to" person for tv, media, podcasts and corporates talking about strategic thinking. They have made many times more out of this new grift than they ever did at poker.
I'd say you're talking about Vicky Cohen Mitchell but I can't recall when she had an "untrustworthy" reputation.
No absolutely not Vicky Cohen. Or Liv boeree. Both highly intelligent woman who have excellent reputation in the poker community and have career involving "strategic thinking".
Vicky Cohen actually gave up a very lucrative sponsorship with PokerStars at protest at how they treated some of the players. Which got her lots of good will and excellent standing.
Am talking about Annie Duke.
That would have been my guess. I bought Duke's Thinking in Bets and if anyone can tell me how it ends, don't bother. Also VCM just texted me that it's Coren not Cohen.
Blame crap auto-complete...and i am crap at multitasking.
I used to train constantly until 2002 and then stopped for 20 years. However, before the invasion, I called Pavlo Haidai who, I knew, had been preparing for the war. He works in the cultural initiative Mizh vukhamy [Between the ears] that funds translations of philosophical works. Aristotle’s Metaphysics [takes a thick book from the table] which together with Ibn Sina [Persian polymath during Islamic Golden Age] served as a support for my rifle. He helped me to buy several rifles.”..
'Mizh vukhamy' isn't a bad title for a sniper manual.
It's an interesting article - particularly for the first hand accounts of the battle at the start of the war.
This was also interesting: ...“Americans supplying Barret 107A sniper rifles was a huge help for the Ukrainian army. Why? Because sniper fire allows you to push the enemy into the trenches quickly, like machine gun fire. However, many military regiments have a shortage of machine guns of all types and the fire of a sniper group can replace machine gun fire. There should be a sniper for every 10 people in the regiment.”..
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
There was the chap with the glass table and the other chap with an orange and a couple of chaps who smacked bottoms.
I thought the glass table was owned by Una Stubbs....
Mortgage payments to rise for 4 million households over next three years
The Bank of England has warned of the growing pressures facing household finances, highly leveraged businesses and buy-to-let landlords as interest rates continue to rise — and says that almost every mortgage in the country will be affected by the end of 2026.
The Bank said in its latest financial stability report that although the UK economy “has so far been resilient to interest rate risk” it will “take time for the full impact of higher interest rates to come through”.
Ignorant science teacher in the middle of marking question:
How much does this feed into published inflation figures? Government optimists are talking about how inflation is set to fall over the rest of the year, in which case pay rises will exceed inflation and all will be well again.
In practice, mortgage interest rises will blow that out of the water for people coming off fxed rates, especially if they have a chunky sum outstanding. Is that going to manifest in published inflation falling more slowly, or in a huge data-reality gap?
Housing costs (including utility bills) are weighted at 14% of CPI.
The reason for the low weighting is that half of home owners have no mortgages, and many of the rest have small mortgages.
It's a good example of how everybody has a different inflation rate.
Mortgage payments to rise for 4 million households over next three years
The Bank of England has warned of the growing pressures facing household finances, highly leveraged businesses and buy-to-let landlords as interest rates continue to rise — and says that almost every mortgage in the country will be affected by the end of 2026.
The Bank said in its latest financial stability report that although the UK economy “has so far been resilient to interest rate risk” it will “take time for the full impact of higher interest rates to come through”.
Ignorant science teacher in the middle of marking question:
How much does this feed into published inflation figures? Government optimists are talking about how inflation is set to fall over the rest of the year, in which case pay rises will exceed inflation and all will be well again.
In practice, mortgage interest rises will blow that out of the water for people coming off fxed rates, especially if they have a chunky sum outstanding. Is that going to manifest in published inflation falling more slowly, or in a huge data-reality gap?
All economic statistics are rubbish, or rather only approximate very roughly economic concepts. If mortgage interest rates are not in the official numbers then that's fine and even better, as people spend more of their salaries on mortgage repayments, they will have less money left over to chase up the price of tortillas and e-bikes that are in the CPI basket.
"Jingle bells, jingle bells, can we rely on your vote?"
I just can't see it.
September/October 24.
Yup.
For all practical intents and purposes, the deadline is probably early December, but given the dark nights and the fact that the public won’t like their festive runup being interrupted unnecessarily* then it seems very unlikely to be any later than the end of October.
*2019 was very much an aberration based on necessity. I don’t think the Tories would in a normal electoral cycle get away with holding an election close to Christmas.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
You actually raise an important point. In a year or two AI will be so good we will be flooded with completely convincing images of politicians doing this perverse thing with this pit pony/daffodil/scout troop
We will have no idea if they are real. Paradoxically it may allow guilty people to get away with bad stuff by saying “that’s just AI”. How will we prove them wrong?
I used to train constantly until 2002 and then stopped for 20 years. However, before the invasion, I called Pavlo Haidai who, I knew, had been preparing for the war. He works in the cultural initiative Mizh vukhamy [Between the ears] that funds translations of philosophical works. Aristotle’s Metaphysics [takes a thick book from the table] which together with Ibn Sina [Persian polymath during Islamic Golden Age] served as a support for my rifle. He helped me to buy several rifles.”..
'Mizh vukhamy' isn't a bad title for a sniper manual.
It's an interesting article - particularly for the first hand accounts of the battle at the start of the war.
This was also interesting: ...“Americans supplying Barret 107A sniper rifles was a huge help for the Ukrainian army. Why? Because sniper fire allows you to push the enemy into the trenches quickly, like machine gun fire. However, many military regiments have a shortage of machine guns of all types and the fire of a sniper group can replace machine gun fire. There should be a sniper for every 10 people in the regiment.”..
{Hesketh Hesketh-Prichard has entered the chat}
Edit: The Barret can do serious damage to even well armoured vehicles - target weak points such as vision blocks. There is a reason that such rifles are referred to as anti-material weapons.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
There was a well known poker player whose abilities were really overblown (her brother was really the one ahead of thr curve who passed on tactics), who got lets just say got more than a reputation as a grifter and not trustworthy at all....they now are a "go to" person for tv, media, podcasts and corporates talking about strategic thinking. They have made many times more out of this new grift than they ever did at poker.
I'd say you're talking about Vicky Cohen Mitchell but I can't recall when she had an "untrustworthy" reputation.
No absolutely not Vicky Cohen. Or Liv boeree. Both highly intelligent woman who have excellent reputation in the poker community and have career involving "strategic thinking".
Vicky Cohen actually gave up a very lucrative sponsorship with PokerStars at protest at how they treated some of the players. Which got her lots of good will and excellent standing.
Am talking about Annie Duke.
It's *Coren* Mitchell not Cohen Mitchell. To add to your rebuttal, it would be very very unlikely that Giles Coren would be a better poker player than me let alone his sister.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
You actually raise an important point. In a year or two AI will be so good we will be flooded with completely convincing images of politicians doing this perverse thing with this pit pony/daffodil/scout troop
We will have no idea if they are real. Paradoxically it may allow guilty people to get away with bad stuff by saying “that’s just AI”. How will we prove them wrong?
I realise he has been dealt 72o and has no alternative but to bluff but Dowden really is terrible.
Dowden is undermined by his own voice, which is a shame really. He lacks gravitas; has no bottom. (Leaving aside the dubious merits of whatever he says.)
Mortgage payments to rise for 4 million households over next three years
The Bank of England has warned of the growing pressures facing household finances, highly leveraged businesses and buy-to-let landlords as interest rates continue to rise — and says that almost every mortgage in the country will be affected by the end of 2026.
The Bank said in its latest financial stability report that although the UK economy “has so far been resilient to interest rate risk” it will “take time for the full impact of higher interest rates to come through”.
Ignorant science teacher in the middle of marking question:
How much does this feed into published inflation figures? Government optimists are talking about how inflation is set to fall over the rest of the year, in which case pay rises will exceed inflation and all will be well again.
In practice, mortgage interest rises will blow that out of the water for people coming off fxed rates, especially if they have a chunky sum outstanding. Is that going to manifest in published inflation falling more slowly, or in a huge data-reality gap?
Housing costs (including utility bills) are weighted at 14% of CPI.
The reason for the low weighting is that half of home owners have no mortgages, and many of the rest have small mortgages.
It's a good example of how everybody has a different inflation rate.
The CPI and RPI are not intended to be an individual measure and and never have been.
Mortgage payments to rise for 4 million households over next three years
The Bank of England has warned of the growing pressures facing household finances, highly leveraged businesses and buy-to-let landlords as interest rates continue to rise — and says that almost every mortgage in the country will be affected by the end of 2026.
The Bank said in its latest financial stability report that although the UK economy “has so far been resilient to interest rate risk” it will “take time for the full impact of higher interest rates to come through”.
Ignorant science teacher in the middle of marking question:
How much does this feed into published inflation figures? Government optimists are talking about how inflation is set to fall over the rest of the year, in which case pay rises will exceed inflation and all will be well again.
In practice, mortgage interest rises will blow that out of the water for people coming off fxed rates, especially if they have a chunky sum outstanding. Is that going to manifest in published inflation falling more slowly, or in a huge data-reality gap?
Housing costs (including utility bills) are weighted at 14% of CPI.
The reason for the low weighting is that half of home owners have no mortgages, and many of the rest have small mortgages.
It's a good example of how everybody has a different inflation rate.
And the dangers of averages; yes, 14 is the midpoint of 0 and 28, but it's not helpful in understanding what's going on. Bit of a risk for the government though- they will be very tempted to celebrate wage rises > inflation, but it won't be that way for a lot of people, who will likely conclude that the government is just out of touch.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
You actually raise an important point. In a year or two AI will be so good we will be flooded with completely convincing images of politicians doing this perverse thing with this pit pony/daffodil/scout troop
We will have no idea if they are real. Paradoxically it may allow guilty people to get away with bad stuff by saying “that’s just AI”. How will we prove them wrong?
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
You actually raise an important point. In a year or two AI will be so good we will be flooded with completely convincing images of politicians doing this perverse thing with this pit pony/daffodil/scout troop
We will have no idea if they are real. Paradoxically it may allow guilty people to get away with bad stuff by saying “that’s just AI”. How will we prove them wrong?
I realise he has been dealt 72o and has no alternative but to bluff but Dowden really is terrible.
Dowden is undermined by his own voice, which is a shame really. He lacks gravitas; has no bottom. (Leaving aside the dubious merits of whatever he says.)
Yes, it seems to be a combination of his voice and the words that come out of it. Otherwise a really promising orator.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
There was the chap with the glass table and the other chap with an orange and a couple of chaps who smacked bottoms.
I thought the glass table was owned by Una Stubbs....
Sorry wrong PB...
A great story and one in a long line of urban myths, like the Pop star having his stomach pumped or the actress with a plastic sphincter.
I could never watch her in Sherlock without having a little snigger.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
Slightly different, since his career ended because of his death rather than resignation.
Grimly, that might have been for the best- heaven only knows what the tabloids would have done with that story.
There was a well known poker player whose abilities were really overblown (her brother was really the one ahead of thr curve who passed on tactics), who got lets just say got more than a reputation as a grifter and not trustworthy at all....they now are a "go to" person for tv, media, podcasts and corporates talking about strategic thinking. They have made many times more out of this new grift than they ever did at poker.
I'd say you're talking about Vicky Cohen Mitchell but I can't recall when she had an "untrustworthy" reputation.
No absolutely not Vicky Cohen. Or Liv boeree. Both highly intelligent woman who have excellent reputation in the poker community and have career involving "strategic thinking".
Vicky Cohen actually gave up a very lucrative sponsorship with PokerStars at protest at how they treated some of the players. Which got her lots of good will and excellent standing.
Am talking about Annie Duke.
It's *Coren* Mitchell not Cohen Mitchell. To add to your rebuttal, it would be very very unlikely that Giles Coren would be a better poker player than me let alone his sister.
And if Alan Coren had been your dad, you'd have a media career too.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
"Few of us would imagine that there was much fun to be had on a kitchen table alone with some electric flex, a dustbin liner and a satsuma fruit unless someone had told us. I have been around longer than Milligan and nobody ever told me about it. Nobody discussed these things at Oxford in my day. Was it in the House of Commons tea-room that Milligan learned such tricks, or in the alcohol-free canteens of the Sun day Times? Perhaps there are secret net works of AEA practitioners who hold conferences in provincial hotels and read each other papers.
In a way I hope not, because it would subtract from Milligan's contribution. If we ask ourselves whether, by his death, Milligan has contributed more to the gaiety of the nation or to its sorrows, the answer is unmistakable. Sorry as we are for the friends and relations, Stephen Milligan has made a massive contribution to the gaiety and happiness of us all at a rather gloomy time in the country's history. Nor do I believe that he made a socialist victory any more certain than it already was with Major as leader. But having commiserated with his various friends and relations, I must also admit that well-intentioned attempts to be solemn about his death succeed only in making it funnier. "
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
You actually raise an important point. In a year or two AI will be so good we will be flooded with completely convincing images of politicians doing this perverse thing with this pit pony/daffodil/scout troop
We will have no idea if they are real. Paradoxically it may allow guilty people to get away with bad stuff by saying “that’s just AI”. How will we prove them wrong?
There was a well known poker player whose abilities were really overblown (her brother was really the one ahead of thr curve who passed on tactics), who got lets just say got more than a reputation as a grifter and not trustworthy at all....they now are a "go to" person for tv, media, podcasts and corporates talking about strategic thinking. They have made many times more out of this new grift than they ever did at poker.
I'd say you're talking about Vicky Cohen Mitchell but I can't recall when she had an "untrustworthy" reputation.
No absolutely not Vicky Cohen. Or Liv boeree. Both highly intelligent woman who have excellent reputation in the poker community and have career involving "strategic thinking".
Vicky Cohen actually gave up a very lucrative sponsorship with PokerStars at protest at how they treated some of the players. Which got her lots of good will and excellent standing.
Am talking about Annie Duke.
It's *Coren* Mitchell not Cohen Mitchell. To add to your rebuttal, it would be very very unlikely that Giles Coren would be a better poker player than me let alone his sister.
How interesting because as they tell it themselves, the family changed their name from Cohen to Coren precisely because they didn't want the Cohen/Jewish association.
There was a well known poker player whose abilities were really overblown (her brother was really the one ahead of thr curve who passed on tactics), who got lets just say got more than a reputation as a grifter and not trustworthy at all....they now are a "go to" person for tv, media, podcasts and corporates talking about strategic thinking. They have made many times more out of this new grift than they ever did at poker.
I'd say you're talking about Vicky Cohen Mitchell but I can't recall when she had an "untrustworthy" reputation.
No absolutely not Vicky Cohen. Or Liv boeree. Both highly intelligent woman who have excellent reputation in the poker community and have career involving "strategic thinking".
Vicky Cohen actually gave up a very lucrative sponsorship with PokerStars at protest at how they treated some of the players. Which got her lots of good will and excellent standing.
Am talking about Annie Duke.
It's *Coren* Mitchell not Cohen Mitchell. To add to your rebuttal, it would be very very unlikely that Giles Coren would be a better poker player than me let alone his sister.
And if Alan Coren had been your dad, you'd have a media career too.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
"Few of us would imagine that there was much fun to be had on a kitchen table alone with some electric flex, a dustbin liner and a satsuma fruit unless someone had told us. I have been around longer than Milligan and nobody ever told me about it. Nobody discussed these things at Oxford in my day. Was it in the House of Commons tea-room that Milligan learned such tricks, or in the alcohol-free canteens of the Sun day Times? Perhaps there are secret net works of AEA practitioners who hold conferences in provincial hotels and read each other papers.
In a way I hope not, because it would subtract from Milligan's contribution. If we ask ourselves whether, by his death, Milligan has contributed more to the gaiety of the nation or to its sorrows, the answer is unmistakable. Sorry as we are for the friends and relations, Stephen Milligan has made a massive contribution to the gaiety and happiness of us all at a rather gloomy time in the country's history. Nor do I believe that he made a socialist victory any more certain than it already was with Major as leader. But having commiserated with his various friends and relations, I must also admit that well-intentioned attempts to be solemn about his death succeed only in making it funnier. "
That's not very nice.
The past is truly another country. i am not going to look but I bet there's an active subreddit devoted to this hobby with a pinned "how to" to take you through the basics. The point is, it needs to be a lemon because you involuntarily bite on it and the sharpness of the juice wakes you up. A satsuma is hopeless. It has always mystified me how someone as bright as Milligan allegedly was did not understand this.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
I hadn't realised Bron Waugh was active so latde. I grew up on his writings in the Eye such as comments re Mr Thorpe and Rinka - and the ensuing Dog-Lovers' Party. The thing I remember most - or at least my memory goes - was his constant references to 'homosexualists' in a tone which gave the impression of implying that they did it deliberately to cause him personal offence.
Edit: Past is a different etc. etc. as Miklosvar rightly comments.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
"Few of us would imagine that there was much fun to be had on a kitchen table alone with some electric flex, a dustbin liner and a satsuma fruit unless someone had told us. I have been around longer than Milligan and nobody ever told me about it. Nobody discussed these things at Oxford in my day. Was it in the House of Commons tea-room that Milligan learned such tricks, or in the alcohol-free canteens of the Sun day Times? Perhaps there are secret net works of AEA practitioners who hold conferences in provincial hotels and read each other papers.
In a way I hope not, because it would subtract from Milligan's contribution. If we ask ourselves whether, by his death, Milligan has contributed more to the gaiety of the nation or to its sorrows, the answer is unmistakable. Sorry as we are for the friends and relations, Stephen Milligan has made a massive contribution to the gaiety and happiness of us all at a rather gloomy time in the country's history. Nor do I believe that he made a socialist victory any more certain than it already was with Major as leader. But having commiserated with his various friends and relations, I must also admit that well-intentioned attempts to be solemn about his death succeed only in making it funnier. "
That's not very nice.
The past is truly another country. i am not going to look but I bet there's an active subreddit devoted to this hobby with a pinned "how to" to take you through the basics. The point is, it needs to be a lemon because you involuntarily bite on it and the sharpness of the juice wakes you up. A satsuma is hopeless. It has always mystified me how someone as bright as Milligan allegedly was did not understand this.
Auto-erotic asphyxiation is certainly one of the strangest ways to die.
There was a well known poker player whose abilities were really overblown (her brother was really the one ahead of thr curve who passed on tactics), who got lets just say got more than a reputation as a grifter and not trustworthy at all....they now are a "go to" person for tv, media, podcasts and corporates talking about strategic thinking. They have made many times more out of this new grift than they ever did at poker.
I'd say you're talking about Vicky Cohen Mitchell but I can't recall when she had an "untrustworthy" reputation.
No absolutely not Vicky Cohen. Or Liv boeree. Both highly intelligent woman who have excellent reputation in the poker community and have career involving "strategic thinking".
Vicky Cohen actually gave up a very lucrative sponsorship with PokerStars at protest at how they treated some of the players. Which got her lots of good will and excellent standing.
Am talking about Annie Duke.
It's *Coren* Mitchell not Cohen Mitchell. To add to your rebuttal, it would be very very unlikely that Giles Coren would be a better poker player than me let alone his sister.
And if Alan Coren had been your dad, you'd have a media career too.
Nepobabies?
And yet they are both genuinely talented
Getting the job isn’t the difficult bit. Getting the interview, that’s the difficult bit.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
You actually raise an important point. In a year or two AI will be so good we will be flooded with completely convincing images of politicians doing this perverse thing with this pit pony/daffodil/scout troop
We will have no idea if they are real. Paradoxically it may allow guilty people to get away with bad stuff by saying “that’s just AI”. How will we prove them wrong?
This is how good Midjourney is now
You should go to Madame Tussauds. It'll blow you away.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
"Few of us would imagine that there was much fun to be had on a kitchen table alone with some electric flex, a dustbin liner and a satsuma fruit unless someone had told us. I have been around longer than Milligan and nobody ever told me about it. Nobody discussed these things at Oxford in my day. Was it in the House of Commons tea-room that Milligan learned such tricks, or in the alcohol-free canteens of the Sun day Times? Perhaps there are secret net works of AEA practitioners who hold conferences in provincial hotels and read each other papers.
In a way I hope not, because it would subtract from Milligan's contribution. If we ask ourselves whether, by his death, Milligan has contributed more to the gaiety of the nation or to its sorrows, the answer is unmistakable. Sorry as we are for the friends and relations, Stephen Milligan has made a massive contribution to the gaiety and happiness of us all at a rather gloomy time in the country's history. Nor do I believe that he made a socialist victory any more certain than it already was with Major as leader. But having commiserated with his various friends and relations, I must also admit that well-intentioned attempts to be solemn about his death succeed only in making it funnier. "
That's not very nice.
The past is truly another country. i am not going to look but I bet there's an active subreddit devoted to this hobby with a pinned "how to" to take you through the basics. The point is, it needs to be a lemon because you involuntarily bite on it and the sharpness of the juice wakes you up. A satsuma is hopeless. It has always mystified me how someone as bright as Milligan allegedly was did not understand this.
Auto-erotic asphyxiation is certainly one of the strangest ways to die.
Must be unbearable for the family - especially as plain 'suicide' is itself the obvious option, and in its way just as unbearable. Also very difficult for the police, coroner/fiscal, and pathologists to deal with sensitively.
Maybe the problem with deep fakes isn't going to so much be that people are fooled by fakes, but that they won't believe a real person is real.
Also, no one famous will ever die or even age particularly
If it suits a movie studio to keep Tom Cruise alive, it will be done. They might even de-age him to about 45
Beloved leaders will go on and on and on. We should have kept the Queen alive, frankly. Just an AI deepfake of her waving and saying vaguely sweet things forever. Sorted
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
"Few of us would imagine that there was much fun to be had on a kitchen table alone with some electric flex, a dustbin liner and a satsuma fruit unless someone had told us. I have been around longer than Milligan and nobody ever told me about it. Nobody discussed these things at Oxford in my day. Was it in the House of Commons tea-room that Milligan learned such tricks, or in the alcohol-free canteens of the Sun day Times? Perhaps there are secret net works of AEA practitioners who hold conferences in provincial hotels and read each other papers.
In a way I hope not, because it would subtract from Milligan's contribution. If we ask ourselves whether, by his death, Milligan has contributed more to the gaiety of the nation or to its sorrows, the answer is unmistakable. Sorry as we are for the friends and relations, Stephen Milligan has made a massive contribution to the gaiety and happiness of us all at a rather gloomy time in the country's history. Nor do I believe that he made a socialist victory any more certain than it already was with Major as leader. But having commiserated with his various friends and relations, I must also admit that well-intentioned attempts to be solemn about his death succeed only in making it funnier. "
That's not very nice.
The past is truly another country. i am not going to look but I bet there's an active subreddit devoted to this hobby with a pinned "how to" to take you through the basics. The point is, it needs to be a lemon because you involuntarily bite on it and the sharpness of the juice wakes you up. A satsuma is hopeless. It has always mystified me how someone as bright as Milligan allegedly was did not understand this.
Auto-erotic asphyxiation is certainly one of the strangest ways to die.
Must be unbearable for the family - especially as plain 'suicide' is itself the obvious option, and in its way just as unbearable. Also very difficult for the police, coroner/fiscal, and pathologists to deal with sensitively.
In its way, it's like the man whose party trick was lighting fireworks from his arse. One day, he lit at the wrong end, a firework called Black Cat Thunderbolt, and it shot up his anus. At the point of impact, the temperature would have been about 2,000 degrees Centigrade.
The ambulance staff burst out laughing on arrival.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
There was a well known poker player whose abilities were really overblown (her brother was really the one ahead of thr curve who passed on tactics), who got lets just say got more than a reputation as a grifter and not trustworthy at all....they now are a "go to" person for tv, media, podcasts and corporates talking about strategic thinking. They have made many times more out of this new grift than they ever did at poker.
I'd say you're talking about Vicky Cohen Mitchell but I can't recall when she had an "untrustworthy" reputation.
No absolutely not Vicky Cohen. Or Liv boeree. Both highly intelligent woman who have excellent reputation in the poker community and have career involving "strategic thinking".
Vicky Cohen actually gave up a very lucrative sponsorship with PokerStars at protest at how they treated some of the players. Which got her lots of good will and excellent standing.
Am talking about Annie Duke.
It's *Coren* Mitchell not Cohen Mitchell. To add to your rebuttal, it would be very very unlikely that Giles Coren would be a better poker player than me let alone his sister.
And if Alan Coren had been your dad, you'd have a media career too.
Nepobabies?
And yet they are both genuinely talented
Getting the job isn’t the difficult bit. Getting the interview, that’s the difficult bit.
Fair
However STAYING in the job after the interview requires serious talent. Which they have
Fleet Street and British tv don’t tolerate utter mediocrity just because of your surname. That’s for politics
But yes, nepotism works in terms of: getting a foot in the door, getting crucial contacts, and also seeing at first hand how an industry functions
Getting very messy in BBC presenter story. Now have current BBC presenters saying they must reveal themselves and they are never coming back in the building (and bbc news making a huge deal of this) and ex-bbc presenters going into bat for unnamed presenter saying they spoke to them and they are angry, its all a sun stitch up.
I am reminded of the spiderman meme, where all the spidermen are pointing at one another.
I mean, as it stands atm, do we have any actual accusation of illegal action? From my understanding the young person in question in the first accusation may have been 17 when first contacted, but the lawyer for that young person seems to have come out actively saying the account from the parents is wrong - so it looks like maybe a young person who does sex work (OF, camming, private / online escort work, whatever) who was getting money from a famous person and the parents not liking that and the fact the young person spent that money on drugs. The second account has essentially been "I talked to this person and they came across as desperate and needy" which may be unattractive to a potential partner and a bad way to have a relationship, but is not illegal. And the only other allegation I have seen is a person saying they may have approached another 17 year old at some point about something - again, it isn't known about what or if anything illegal happened.
Is it a bit cringe for a middle aged BBC presenter to be talking to / sexting / whatever with younger men? Sure. Is it illegal. No. Should it be front page news on the Sun? Also no. Should the other papers then put it on all of their front pages? Definitely no.
This story seems to be an attempt to do to some BBC news presenter what happened with Schofield, and continuing the increasing conflation between any same sex relationships with paedophilia. Obviously if the BBC employee in question did anything illegal, they should be investigated and punished. But all those people who argued that the court of public opinion was so unfair for the likes of Johnson or any other right winger, and hate it when people get "cancelled", seem to be dancing with glee at this story.
Do we have firm evidence of illegal activity? No.
Do we have an allegation of illegal activity? Yes.
So it should like any allegation be investigated seriously, bearing in mind both that criminal activity may have occurred and that innocent until proven guilty applies.
Does the fact that the alleged victim denies criminal activity happened mean it didn't? No.
People involved in wrongdoing, including victims, deny wrongdoing all the time.
The whole point of the age of consent is that the victim can't consent and can't say that a crime didn't happen if it did. The fact they're now an adult doesn't change that if a crime did occur when they were a child.
The homophobia thing is as interesting take on it.
What would happen, do you think, for allegations that a celebrity sent 5 figures to an opposite sex teenager for... services?
I think the whole story would be treated exactly the same, personally. The reporting has been conspicuously gender neutral.
The number of celebrities who openly have relationships with barely legal opposite gender partners, such as Leo DiCaprio, is very much normalised. People comment, and maybe joke, but it's not front page news. I don't think it would be front page news if this was male BBC presenter having relationship with 17 - 20 year old girl / woman.
Maybe the problem with deep fakes isn't going to so much be that people are fooled by fakes, but that they won't believe a real person is real.
Also, no one famous will ever die or even age particularly
If it suits a movie studio to keep Tom Cruise alive, it will be done. They might even de-age him to about 45
Beloved leaders will go on and on and on. We should have kept the Queen alive, frankly. Just an AI deepfake of her waving and saying vaguely sweet things forever. Sorted
I wonder how long it will be until "The Queen" isn't automatically assumed to mean Queen Elizabeth II? Certainly if you were to giveme a sentence whuch could refer to any queen (such as "I had a dream about the queen") I'd assume you meant QEII. You know, THE queen.
There was a well known poker player whose abilities were really overblown (her brother was really the one ahead of thr curve who passed on tactics), who got lets just say got more than a reputation as a grifter and not trustworthy at all....they now are a "go to" person for tv, media, podcasts and corporates talking about strategic thinking. They have made many times more out of this new grift than they ever did at poker.
I'd say you're talking about Vicky Cohen Mitchell but I can't recall when she had an "untrustworthy" reputation.
No absolutely not Vicky Cohen. Or Liv boeree. Both highly intelligent woman who have excellent reputation in the poker community and have career involving "strategic thinking".
Vicky Cohen actually gave up a very lucrative sponsorship with PokerStars at protest at how they treated some of the players. Which got her lots of good will and excellent standing.
Am talking about Annie Duke.
It's *Coren* Mitchell not Cohen Mitchell. To add to your rebuttal, it would be very very unlikely that Giles Coren would be a better poker player than me let alone his sister.
And if Alan Coren had been your dad, you'd have a media career too.
Nepobabies?
And yet they are both genuinely talented
Yes they are but that is the way with nepotism. It opens the door, and often that's enough. It won't keep you there if you are terrible, but most people aren't.
Even before the door is opened by daddy's connections, you know the door is there; you know what lies on the other side is viable. In their case, they would know that it is possible to be a successful columnist or television presenter. In Damon Hill's case, it means driving Formula One cars for a living was a real possibility. And similarly for the midwife's and long distance lorry-driver's children.
Step One, know something is possible. Step Two, have daddy open the door. Step Three, don't balls it up. Optional Step Four, pontificate on how your career is open to all those lazy dole claimants.
Getting very messy in BBC presenter story. Now have current BBC presenters saying they must reveal themselves and they are never coming back in the building (and bbc news making a huge deal of this) and ex-bbc presenters going into bat for unnamed presenter saying they spoke to them and they are angry, its all a sun stitch up.
I am reminded of the spiderman meme, where all the spidermen are pointing at one another.
I mean, as it stands atm, do we have any actual accusation of illegal action? From my understanding the young person in question in the first accusation may have been 17 when first contacted, but the lawyer for that young person seems to have come out actively saying the account from the parents is wrong - so it looks like maybe a young person who does sex work (OF, camming, private / online escort work, whatever) who was getting money from a famous person and the parents not liking that and the fact the young person spent that money on drugs. The second account has essentially been "I talked to this person and they came across as desperate and needy" which may be unattractive to a potential partner and a bad way to have a relationship, but is not illegal. And the only other allegation I have seen is a person saying they may have approached another 17 year old at some point about something - again, it isn't known about what or if anything illegal happened.
Is it a bit cringe for a middle aged BBC presenter to be talking to / sexting / whatever with younger men? Sure. Is it illegal. No. Should it be front page news on the Sun? Also no. Should the other papers then put it on all of their front pages? Definitely no.
This story seems to be an attempt to do to some BBC news presenter what happened with Schofield, and continuing the increasing conflation between any same sex relationships with paedophilia. Obviously if the BBC employee in question did anything illegal, they should be investigated and punished. But all those people who argued that the court of public opinion was so unfair for the likes of Johnson or any other right winger, and hate it when people get "cancelled", seem to be dancing with glee at this story.
Do we have firm evidence of illegal activity? No.
Do we have an allegation of illegal activity? Yes.
So it should like any allegation be investigated seriously, bearing in mind both that criminal activity may have occurred and that innocent until proven guilty applies.
Does the fact that the alleged victim denies criminal activity happened mean it didn't? No.
People involved in wrongdoing, including victims, deny wrongdoing all the time.
The whole point of the age of consent is that the victim can't consent and can't say that a crime didn't happen if it did. The fact they're now an adult doesn't change that if a crime did occur when they were a child.
No, but if the only thing that happened when they were underage (17) was them meeting, and nothing happened until they were of consenting age, then it becomes a different issue. Still cringey and problematic, but not a legal issue. Again, if the account by the parents was the same as the account of their child then the Sun would have published it - it is somewhat of a press malpractice issue (in my mind) that the Sun did ask the individual directly involved what happened, they seem to have disagreed with the account told by their parents, and the Sun did not publish that or any of the details from the primary source.
There was a well known poker player whose abilities were really overblown (her brother was really the one ahead of thr curve who passed on tactics), who got lets just say got more than a reputation as a grifter and not trustworthy at all....they now are a "go to" person for tv, media, podcasts and corporates talking about strategic thinking. They have made many times more out of this new grift than they ever did at poker.
I'd say you're talking about Vicky Cohen Mitchell but I can't recall when she had an "untrustworthy" reputation.
No absolutely not Vicky Cohen. Or Liv boeree. Both highly intelligent woman who have excellent reputation in the poker community and have career involving "strategic thinking".
Vicky Cohen actually gave up a very lucrative sponsorship with PokerStars at protest at how they treated some of the players. Which got her lots of good will and excellent standing.
Am talking about Annie Duke.
It's *Coren* Mitchell not Cohen Mitchell. To add to your rebuttal, it would be very very unlikely that Giles Coren would be a better poker player than me let alone his sister.
And if Alan Coren had been your dad, you'd have a media career too.
Nepobabies?
And yet they are both genuinely talented
Yes they are but that is the way with nepotism. It opens the door, and often that's enough. It won't keep you there if you are terrible, but most people aren't.
Even before the door is opened by daddy's connections, you know the door is there; you know what lies on the other side is viable. In their case, they would know that it is possible to be a successful columnist or television presenter. In Damon Hill's case, it means driving Formula One cars for a living was a real possibility. And similarly for the midwife's and long distance lorry-driver's children.
Step One, know something is possible. Step Two, have daddy open the door. Step Three, don't balls it up. Optional Step Four, pontificate on how your career is open to all those lazy dole claimants.
I agree with most of this. Tho I think media success is a little harder to achieve than you suggest, whoever your pa might be
Maybe the problem with deep fakes isn't going to so much be that people are fooled by fakes, but that they won't believe a real person is real.
Also, no one famous will ever die or even age particularly
If it suits a movie studio to keep Tom Cruise alive, it will be done. They might even de-age him to about 45
Beloved leaders will go on and on and on. We should have kept the Queen alive, frankly. Just an AI deepfake of her waving and saying vaguely sweet things forever. Sorted
I wonder how long it will be until "The Queen" isn't automatically assumed to mean Queen Elizabeth II? Certainly if you were to giveme a sentence whuch could refer to any queen (such as "I had a dream about the queen") I'd assume you meant QEII. You know, THE queen.
Maybe the problem with deep fakes isn't going to so much be that people are fooled by fakes, but that they won't believe a real person is real.
Also, no one famous will ever die or even age particularly
If it suits a movie studio to keep Tom Cruise alive, it will be done. They might even de-age him to about 45
Beloved leaders will go on and on and on. We should have kept the Queen alive, frankly. Just an AI deepfake of her waving and saying vaguely sweet things forever. Sorted
I wonder how long it will be until "The Queen" isn't automatically assumed to mean Queen Elizabeth II? Certainly if you were to giveme a sentence whuch could refer to any queen (such as "I had a dream about the queen") I'd assume you meant QEII. You know, THE queen.
I will never not think of her as the real Queen.
I'd imagine it took people a very long time to stop referring to Queen Victoria as 'the Queen'. There's even that story about the naming of the QM liner.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
"Few of us would imagine that there was much fun to be had on a kitchen table alone with some electric flex, a dustbin liner and a satsuma fruit unless someone had told us. I have been around longer than Milligan and nobody ever told me about it. Nobody discussed these things at Oxford in my day. Was it in the House of Commons tea-room that Milligan learned such tricks, or in the alcohol-free canteens of the Sun day Times? Perhaps there are secret net works of AEA practitioners who hold conferences in provincial hotels and read each other papers.
In a way I hope not, because it would subtract from Milligan's contribution. If we ask ourselves whether, by his death, Milligan has contributed more to the gaiety of the nation or to its sorrows, the answer is unmistakable. Sorry as we are for the friends and relations, Stephen Milligan has made a massive contribution to the gaiety and happiness of us all at a rather gloomy time in the country's history. Nor do I believe that he made a socialist victory any more certain than it already was with Major as leader. But having commiserated with his various friends and relations, I must also admit that well-intentioned attempts to be solemn about his death succeed only in making it funnier. "
That's not very nice.
The past is truly another country. i am not going to look but I bet there's an active subreddit devoted to this hobby with a pinned "how to" to take you through the basics. The point is, it needs to be a lemon because you involuntarily bite on it and the sharpness of the juice wakes you up. A satsuma is hopeless. It has always mystified me how someone as bright as Milligan allegedly was did not understand this.
Auto-erotic asphyxiation is certainly one of the strangest ways to die.
Must be unbearable for the family - especially as plain 'suicide' is itself the obvious option, and in its way just as unbearable. Also very difficult for the police, coroner/fiscal, and pathologists to deal with sensitively.
In its way, it's like the man whose party trick was lighting fireworks from his arse. One day, he lit at the wrong end, a firework called Black Cat Thunderbolt, and it shot up his anus. At the point of impact, the temperature would have been about 2,000 degrees Centigrade.
The ambulance staff burst out laughing on arrival.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
"Few of us would imagine that there was much fun to be had on a kitchen table alone with some electric flex, a dustbin liner and a satsuma fruit unless someone had told us. I have been around longer than Milligan and nobody ever told me about it. Nobody discussed these things at Oxford in my day. Was it in the House of Commons tea-room that Milligan learned such tricks, or in the alcohol-free canteens of the Sun day Times? Perhaps there are secret net works of AEA practitioners who hold conferences in provincial hotels and read each other papers.
In a way I hope not, because it would subtract from Milligan's contribution. If we ask ourselves whether, by his death, Milligan has contributed more to the gaiety of the nation or to its sorrows, the answer is unmistakable. Sorry as we are for the friends and relations, Stephen Milligan has made a massive contribution to the gaiety and happiness of us all at a rather gloomy time in the country's history. Nor do I believe that he made a socialist victory any more certain than it already was with Major as leader. But having commiserated with his various friends and relations, I must also admit that well-intentioned attempts to be solemn about his death succeed only in making it funnier. "
That's not very nice.
The past is truly another country. i am not going to look but I bet there's an active subreddit devoted to this hobby with a pinned "how to" to take you through the basics. The point is, it needs to be a lemon because you involuntarily bite on it and the sharpness of the juice wakes you up. A satsuma is hopeless. It has always mystified me how someone as bright as Milligan allegedly was did not understand this.
Auto-erotic asphyxiation is certainly one of the strangest ways to die.
Must be unbearable for the family - especially as plain 'suicide' is itself the obvious option, and in its way just as unbearable. Also very difficult for the police, coroner/fiscal, and pathologists to deal with sensitively.
Young teenager near here too very much the same thing. His mother went over the top about bullying, consequently there was a major enquiry at the school and on the bus going to school. Nothing came of it and eventually yeah everyone agreed on the cause of death. Very sad. For reasons which I won't go into I went to the funeral; drizzling rain in January absolutely dreadful! And all the girls from his class… 13-14-year-olds were not wearing Macintoshes or any other overgarment
Mr. Leon, ha, I've got a Medium article on AI, politics, and fake news/images during 2024 elections scheduled for Friday.
There's going to be tons of the stuff.
Basically if you aren't seeing the politician in person or on an high quality TV channel (BBC/ITV/Sky) don't trust that the person talking is the person you think it is.
The 2024 election is going to be fun in that direction.
Getting very messy in BBC presenter story. Now have current BBC presenters saying they must reveal themselves and they are never coming back in the building (and bbc news making a huge deal of this) and ex-bbc presenters going into bat for unnamed presenter saying they spoke to them and they are angry, its all a sun stitch up.
I am reminded of the spiderman meme, where all the spidermen are pointing at one another.
I mean, as it stands atm, do we have any actual accusation of illegal action? From my understanding the young person in question in the first accusation may have been 17 when first contacted, but the lawyer for that young person seems to have come out actively saying the account from the parents is wrong - so it looks like maybe a young person who does sex work (OF, camming, private / online escort work, whatever) who was getting money from a famous person and the parents not liking that and the fact the young person spent that money on drugs. The second account has essentially been "I talked to this person and they came across as desperate and needy" which may be unattractive to a potential partner and a bad way to have a relationship, but is not illegal. And the only other allegation I have seen is a person saying they may have approached another 17 year old at some point about something - again, it isn't known about what or if anything illegal happened.
Is it a bit cringe for a middle aged BBC presenter to be talking to / sexting / whatever with younger men? Sure. Is it illegal. No. Should it be front page news on the Sun? Also no. Should the other papers then put it on all of their front pages? Definitely no.
This story seems to be an attempt to do to some BBC news presenter what happened with Schofield, and continuing the increasing conflation between any same sex relationships with paedophilia. Obviously if the BBC employee in question did anything illegal, they should be investigated and punished. But all those people who argued that the court of public opinion was so unfair for the likes of Johnson or any other right winger, and hate it when people get "cancelled", seem to be dancing with glee at this story.
Do we have firm evidence of illegal activity? No.
Do we have an allegation of illegal activity? Yes.
So it should like any allegation be investigated seriously, bearing in mind both that criminal activity may have occurred and that innocent until proven guilty applies.
Does the fact that the alleged victim denies criminal activity happened mean it didn't? No.
People involved in wrongdoing, including victims, deny wrongdoing all the time.
The whole point of the age of consent is that the victim can't consent and can't say that a crime didn't happen if it did. The fact they're now an adult doesn't change that if a crime did occur when they were a child.
The homophobia thing is as interesting take on it.
What would happen, do you think, for allegations that a celebrity sent 5 figures to an opposite sex teenager for... services?
I think the whole story would be treated exactly the same, personally. The reporting has been conspicuously gender neutral.
The number of celebrities who openly have relationships with barely legal opposite gender partners, such as Leo DiCaprio, is very much normalised. People comment, and maybe joke, but it's not front page news. I don't think it would be front page news if this was male BBC presenter having relationship with 17 - 20 year old girl / woman.
It's not the 'having a relationship' aspect, though is it? It's the nature of the relationship - i.e paid for and (presumably) behind the back of his family. Plus the various other complaints coming forward, none of which are illegal activity, but all of which are rather odd behaviour. This would all be pored over and disapproved of just as much whether the other parties weremale or female. More so, I'd say, if the other parties were female - there'd be a Metoo aspect to it.
Mr. eek, audio's also going to be a big deal. Both synthesis (from text) and converting a spoken voice 'live' to a celebrity/politican is already possible.
Woman wears skirt and heels is in a similar PB vein as bloke eats bacon sarnie or man cries at funeral.
Mate, you’re talking to the guy who correctly identified the sexual significance of THE NECKLACE after fifteen seconds.
We are talking to the guy with a fetlife account who insists on posting online fetish-based analyses of female politicians based on evidence that may be exceedingly sparse. How would you characterise this behavior?
If Italy is the model for all future Western politics then it can't be long before we start getting porn star MPs.
Two points
* I imagine (and there is no way I'm going to look) that there are many AI-generated images of UK politicians of all stripes in various states of undress and poses. * The question of what to do with politicians discovered to have unusual sex with consenting adults has arisen before (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film) for a fictional example). I can't think of a specific UK example other than sex-with-prostitutes and the Profumo affair. I assume others will provide further examples if they exist
I suppose the most obvious one that springs to mind is the sad case of Stephen Milligan although of course that didn't involve anyone else.
It prompted a remarkable obituary from Auberon Waugh, in The Spectator.
Happy to believe you, but yet again Google refuses to provide me with a link. Either I've done something really weird, there are filters on the wifi I am not aware of, or the noted-by-others degradation of Google has reached a point where it's useless.
"Few of us would imagine that there was much fun to be had on a kitchen table alone with some electric flex, a dustbin liner and a satsuma fruit unless someone had told us. I have been around longer than Milligan and nobody ever told me about it. Nobody discussed these things at Oxford in my day. Was it in the House of Commons tea-room that Milligan learned such tricks, or in the alcohol-free canteens of the Sun day Times? Perhaps there are secret net works of AEA practitioners who hold conferences in provincial hotels and read each other papers.
In a way I hope not, because it would subtract from Milligan's contribution. If we ask ourselves whether, by his death, Milligan has contributed more to the gaiety of the nation or to its sorrows, the answer is unmistakable. Sorry as we are for the friends and relations, Stephen Milligan has made a massive contribution to the gaiety and happiness of us all at a rather gloomy time in the country's history. Nor do I believe that he made a socialist victory any more certain than it already was with Major as leader. But having commiserated with his various friends and relations, I must also admit that well-intentioned attempts to be solemn about his death succeed only in making it funnier. "
That's not very nice.
The past is truly another country. i am not going to look but I bet there's an active subreddit devoted to this hobby with a pinned "how to" to take you through the basics. The point is, it needs to be a lemon because you involuntarily bite on it and the sharpness of the juice wakes you up. A satsuma is hopeless. It has always mystified me how someone as bright as Milligan allegedly was did not understand this.
Auto-erotic asphyxiation is certainly one of the strangest ways to die.
Yes, yet a few have. David Carradine and Michael Hutchence leap to mind.
Getting very messy in BBC presenter story. Now have current BBC presenters saying they must reveal themselves and they are never coming back in the building (and bbc news making a huge deal of this) and ex-bbc presenters going into bat for unnamed presenter saying they spoke to them and they are angry, its all a sun stitch up.
I am reminded of the spiderman meme, where all the spidermen are pointing at one another.
I mean, as it stands atm, do we have any actual accusation of illegal action? From my understanding the young person in question in the first accusation may have been 17 when first contacted, but the lawyer for that young person seems to have come out actively saying the account from the parents is wrong - so it looks like maybe a young person who does sex work (OF, camming, private / online escort work, whatever) who was getting money from a famous person and the parents not liking that and the fact the young person spent that money on drugs. The second account has essentially been "I talked to this person and they came across as desperate and needy" which may be unattractive to a potential partner and a bad way to have a relationship, but is not illegal. And the only other allegation I have seen is a person saying they may have approached another 17 year old at some point about something - again, it isn't known about what or if anything illegal happened.
Is it a bit cringe for a middle aged BBC presenter to be talking to / sexting / whatever with younger men? Sure. Is it illegal. No. Should it be front page news on the Sun? Also no. Should the other papers then put it on all of their front pages? Definitely no.
This story seems to be an attempt to do to some BBC news presenter what happened with Schofield, and continuing the increasing conflation between any same sex relationships with paedophilia. Obviously if the BBC employee in question did anything illegal, they should be investigated and punished. But all those people who argued that the court of public opinion was so unfair for the likes of Johnson or any other right winger, and hate it when people get "cancelled", seem to be dancing with glee at this story.
Do we have firm evidence of illegal activity? No.
Do we have an allegation of illegal activity? Yes.
So it should like any allegation be investigated seriously, bearing in mind both that criminal activity may have occurred and that innocent until proven guilty applies.
Does the fact that the alleged victim denies criminal activity happened mean it didn't? No.
People involved in wrongdoing, including victims, deny wrongdoing all the time.
The whole point of the age of consent is that the victim can't consent and can't say that a crime didn't happen if it did. The fact they're now an adult doesn't change that if a crime did occur when they were a child.
No, but if the only thing that happened when they were underage (17) was them meeting, and nothing happened until they were of consenting age, then it becomes a different issue. Still cringey and problematic, but not a legal issue. Again, if the account by the parents was the same as the account of their child then the Sun would have published it - it is somewhat of a press malpractice issue (in my mind) that the Sun did ask the individual directly involved what happened, they seem to have disagreed with the account told by their parents, and the Sun did not publish that or any of the details from the primary source.
Breach of lockdown really is the gift that keeps on giving, though. It'll be Barnard Castle and Currygate and do X police force investigate stuff that happened in the past, redux.
I thought the Matrix was all about Trans and not really virtual reality at all? Red Pill = Hormones etc etc etc.
/Ducks
Gnnngkt, I know what you mean (and it's a view with increasing traction, especially with what happened with the Wachowskis and it being what they actually intended), but if you'll forgive me coming over all "Death of the Author" for the moment, I think it works better as a slavery/AfricanAmerican experience metaphor, and certainly served more people with that reading. If you want a trans metaphor, I'd go with "Blade Runner".
I have already seen cop shows which have the SF using AI generated protagonists as integral to the plot.
“SF”?
Security forces - they were trying to entrap a perp.
I'm wondering how long it will be before the fact that modern cameras can markedly change images will come up in court. There's always been slight issues - especially with digital - of compression artifacts and digital enhancements. But the latter are getting much more complex, with object eraser, light removal and anti-blur stuff. It's going to get so that the picture stored on the card might be markedly different from the target scene, with minimal intervention by the user.
I have already seen cop shows which have the SF using AI generated protagonists as integral to the plot.
“SF”?
Security forces - they were trying to entrap a perp.
I'm wondering how long it will be before the fact that modern cameras can markedly change images will come up in court. There's always been slight issues - especially with digital - of compression artifacts and digital enhancements. But the latter are getting much more complex, with object eraser, light removal and anti-blur stuff. It's going to get so that the picture stored on the card might be markedly different from the target scene, with minimal intervention by the user.
Not to mention allegations that some camera phones are simply replacing reality with prepared images
Getting very messy in BBC presenter story. Now have current BBC presenters saying they must reveal themselves and they are never coming back in the building (and bbc news making a huge deal of this) and ex-bbc presenters going into bat for unnamed presenter saying they spoke to them and they are angry, its all a sun stitch up.
I am reminded of the spiderman meme, where all the spidermen are pointing at one another.
I mean, as it stands atm, do we have any actual accusation of illegal action? From my understanding the young person in question in the first accusation may have been 17 when first contacted, but the lawyer for that young person seems to have come out actively saying the account from the parents is wrong - so it looks like maybe a young person who does sex work (OF, camming, private / online escort work, whatever) who was getting money from a famous person and the parents not liking that and the fact the young person spent that money on drugs. The second account has essentially been "I talked to this person and they came across as desperate and needy" which may be unattractive to a potential partner and a bad way to have a relationship, but is not illegal. And the only other allegation I have seen is a person saying they may have approached another 17 year old at some point about something - again, it isn't known about what or if anything illegal happened.
Is it a bit cringe for a middle aged BBC presenter to be talking to / sexting / whatever with younger men? Sure. Is it illegal. No. Should it be front page news on the Sun? Also no. Should the other papers then put it on all of their front pages? Definitely no.
This story seems to be an attempt to do to some BBC news presenter what happened with Schofield, and continuing the increasing conflation between any same sex relationships with paedophilia. Obviously if the BBC employee in question did anything illegal, they should be investigated and punished. But all those people who argued that the court of public opinion was so unfair for the likes of Johnson or any other right winger, and hate it when people get "cancelled", seem to be dancing with glee at this story.
Do we have firm evidence of illegal activity? No.
Do we have an allegation of illegal activity? Yes.
So it should like any allegation be investigated seriously, bearing in mind both that criminal activity may have occurred and that innocent until proven guilty applies.
Does the fact that the alleged victim denies criminal activity happened mean it didn't? No.
People involved in wrongdoing, including victims, deny wrongdoing all the time.
The whole point of the age of consent is that the victim can't consent and can't say that a crime didn't happen if it did. The fact they're now an adult doesn't change that if a crime did occur when they were a child.
The homophobia thing is as interesting take on it.
What would happen, do you think, for allegations that a celebrity sent 5 figures to an opposite sex teenager for... services?
I think the whole story would be treated exactly the same, personally. The reporting has been conspicuously gender neutral.
The number of celebrities who openly have relationships with barely legal opposite gender partners, such as Leo DiCaprio, is very much normalised. People comment, and maybe joke, but it's not front page news. I don't think it would be front page news if this was male BBC presenter having relationship with 17 - 20 year old girl / woman.
It's not the 'having a relationship' aspect, though is it? It's the nature of the relationship - i.e paid for and (presumably) behind the back of his family. Plus the various other complaints coming forward, none of which are illegal activity, but all of which are rather odd behaviour. This would all be pored over and disapproved of just as much whether the other parties weremale or female. More so, I'd say, if the other parties were female - there'd be a Metoo aspect to it.
I mean, maybe? Again, without having the evidence of the behaviour it's difficult to know if this is just the kind of bad behaviour a desperate person may say when searching for sexual release / a relationship (as many people are indeed needy or bad communicators about their feelings or desires) or if it is abuse. Again, if it is abuse, I think it is right to investigate.
I don't know the degree to which I care about the payment side of things - again OF is hugely popular now, escorting has always been a business, and outright prostitution should be made safe and legal. It makes the story more scandalous only in the sense that society still ostracises sex work. We don't know if the individual involved is a sex worker or not (if they are young, queer and using drugs they certainly fall within the likely demographic but, again, we haven't had their side of the story other than the denials of the way their parents have framed things).
The original story was based on the views of the parents of a young person who denies the details story, and told the Sun they deny the details of the story, and it still made front page news and is the news leader for most newspapers. I do not see that happening if it was a woman.
I'm wondering how long it will be before the fact that modern cameras can markedly change images will come up in court. There's always been slight issues - especially with digital - of compression artifacts and digital enhancements. But the latter are getting much more complex, with object eraser, light removal and anti-blur stuff. It's going to get so that the picture stored on the card might be markedly different from the target scene, with minimal intervention by the user.
The really annoying ads for the latest Google Pixel phone are all about how the new "camera" can fix all those image defects. "It can also fix photos you took with your old phone"
What they mean is the Google AI engines in the cloud can manipulate the stored images so they no longer represent objective reality but that doesn't sell as well...
I have already seen cop shows which have the SF using AI generated protagonists as integral to the plot.
“SF”?
Security forces - they were trying to entrap a perp.
I'm wondering how long it will be before the fact that modern cameras can markedly change images will come up in court. There's always been slight issues - especially with digital - of compression artifacts and digital enhancements. But the latter are getting much more complex, with object eraser, light removal and anti-blur stuff. It's going to get so that the picture stored on the card might be markedly different from the target scene, with minimal intervention by the user.
All imagery - photos and vids - will soon be inadmissible in court. As inherently unreliable
Mortgage payments to rise for 4 million households over next three years
The Bank of England has warned of the growing pressures facing household finances, highly leveraged businesses and buy-to-let landlords as interest rates continue to rise — and says that almost every mortgage in the country will be affected by the end of 2026.
The Bank said in its latest financial stability report that although the UK economy “has so far been resilient to interest rate risk” it will “take time for the full impact of higher interest rates to come through”.
Ignorant science teacher in the middle of marking question:
How much does this feed into published inflation figures? Government optimists are talking about how inflation is set to fall over the rest of the year, in which case pay rises will exceed inflation and all will be well again.
In practice, mortgage interest rises will blow that out of the water for people coming off fxed rates, especially if they have a chunky sum outstanding. Is that going to manifest in published inflation falling more slowly, or in a huge data-reality gap?
Housing costs (including utility bills) are weighted at 14% of CPI.
The reason for the low weighting is that half of home owners have no mortgages, and many of the rest have small mortgages.
The cost of owner occupied housing isn't included in the CPI at all, because those costs are treated as the cost of servicing a financial liability not as consumption. The CPIH measure includes the cost of owner occupied housing but does so on a rental equivalence basis - ie it is based on the hypothetical rent that an owner occupier pays to themselves to live in the house that they own. The RPI includes both house prices (via the depreciation component) and mortgage interest payments but suffers from a number of methodological flaws.
I thought the Matrix was all about Trans and not really virtual reality at all? Red Pill = Hormones etc etc etc.
/Ducks
I'm not convinced that every element of The Matrix has a direct symbolism, but it seems undeniable that it was influenced by the Wachowski sisters' own experiences of alienation with their bodies and a growing sense of a hidden identity.
I thought the Matrix was all about Trans and not really virtual reality at all? Red Pill = Hormones etc etc etc.
/Ducks
Gnnngkt, I know what you mean (and it's a view with increasing traction, especially with what happened with the Wachowskis and it being what they actually intended), but if you'll forgive me coming over all "Death of the Author" for the moment, I think it works better as a slavery/AfricanAmerican experience metaphor, and certainly served more people with that reading. If you want a trans metaphor, I'd go with "Blade Runner".
Would you mind expanding more on both metaphors, as you see them?
Getting very messy in BBC presenter story. Now have current BBC presenters saying they must reveal themselves and they are never coming back in the building (and bbc news making a huge deal of this) and ex-bbc presenters going into bat for unnamed presenter saying they spoke to them and they are angry, its all a sun stitch up.
I am reminded of the spiderman meme, where all the spidermen are pointing at one another.
I mean, as it stands atm, do we have any actual accusation of illegal action? From my understanding the young person in question in the first accusation may have been 17 when first contacted, but the lawyer for that young person seems to have come out actively saying the account from the parents is wrong - so it looks like maybe a young person who does sex work (OF, camming, private / online escort work, whatever) who was getting money from a famous person and the parents not liking that and the fact the young person spent that money on drugs. The second account has essentially been "I talked to this person and they came across as desperate and needy" which may be unattractive to a potential partner and a bad way to have a relationship, but is not illegal. And the only other allegation I have seen is a person saying they may have approached another 17 year old at some point about something - again, it isn't known about what or if anything illegal happened.
Is it a bit cringe for a middle aged BBC presenter to be talking to / sexting / whatever with younger men? Sure. Is it illegal. No. Should it be front page news on the Sun? Also no. Should the other papers then put it on all of their front pages? Definitely no.
This story seems to be an attempt to do to some BBC news presenter what happened with Schofield, and continuing the increasing conflation between any same sex relationships with paedophilia. Obviously if the BBC employee in question did anything illegal, they should be investigated and punished. But all those people who argued that the court of public opinion was so unfair for the likes of Johnson or any other right winger, and hate it when people get "cancelled", seem to be dancing with glee at this story.
Do we have firm evidence of illegal activity? No.
Do we have an allegation of illegal activity? Yes.
So it should like any allegation be investigated seriously, bearing in mind both that criminal activity may have occurred and that innocent until proven guilty applies.
Does the fact that the alleged victim denies criminal activity happened mean it didn't? No.
People involved in wrongdoing, including victims, deny wrongdoing all the time.
The whole point of the age of consent is that the victim can't consent and can't say that a crime didn't happen if it did. The fact they're now an adult doesn't change that if a crime did occur when they were a child.
The homophobia thing is as interesting take on it.
What would happen, do you think, for allegations that a celebrity sent 5 figures to an opposite sex teenager for... services?
I think the whole story would be treated exactly the same, personally. The reporting has been conspicuously gender neutral.
The number of celebrities who openly have relationships with barely legal opposite gender partners, such as Leo DiCaprio, is very much normalised. People comment, and maybe joke, but it's not front page news. I don't think it would be front page news if this was male BBC presenter having relationship with 17 - 20 year old girl / woman.
It's not the 'having a relationship' aspect, though is it? It's the nature of the relationship - i.e paid for and (presumably) behind the back of his family. Plus the various other complaints coming forward, none of which are illegal activity, but all of which are rather odd behaviour. This would all be pored over and disapproved of just as much whether the other parties weremale or female. More so, I'd say, if the other parties were female - there'd be a Metoo aspect to it.
I mean, maybe? Again, without having the evidence of the behaviour it's difficult to know if this is just the kind of bad behaviour a desperate person may say when searching for sexual release / a relationship (as many people are indeed needy or bad communicators about their feelings or desires) or if it is abuse. Again, if it is abuse, I think it is right to investigate.
I don't know the degree to which I care about the payment side of things - again OF is hugely popular now, escorting has always been a business, and outright prostitution should be made safe and legal. It makes the story more scandalous only in the sense that society still ostracises sex work. We don't know if the individual involved is a sex worker or not (if they are young, queer and using drugs they certainly fall within the likely demographic but, again, we haven't had their side of the story other than the denials of the way their parents have framed things).
The original story was based on the views of the parents of a young person who denies the details story, and told the Sun they deny the details of the story, and it still made front page news and is the news leader for most newspapers. I do not see that happening if it was a woman.
I'm not going to disagree with you about whether this should be news or not, especially as the details are as yet hazy. But I think the media would be just as interested in the story of 'married famous senior male TV presenter pays £35,000 for pictures of young woman, various other young women come out of woodwork to raise issues of faintly icky behaviour' as 'married famous senior male TV presenter pays £35,000 for pictures of young man, various other young men come out of woodwork to raise issues of faintly icky behaviour'. Indeed, the latter would probably see a more sympathetic response, as happened with Schofield first time around.
What appears to be the case is that TV is a horrible, cut-throat industry in which many at the top have made a lot of enemies who want to bring them down.
I thought the Matrix was all about Trans and not really virtual reality at all? Red Pill = Hormones etc etc etc.
/Ducks
Gnnngkt, I know what you mean (and it's a view with increasing traction, especially with what happened with the Wachowskis and it being what they actually intended), but if you'll forgive me coming over all "Death of the Author" for the moment, I think it works better as a slavery/AfricanAmerican experience metaphor, and certainly served more people with that reading. If you want a trans metaphor, I'd go with "Blade Runner".
Yes, I agree that a film should just be a story and over-explaining to the viewer is unnecessary and distracting. We should all be allowed to interpret things in our own way.
But...having watched the original (and only, obvs) Matrix again recently, it is hard to unsee the metaphor.
I have already seen cop shows which have the SF using AI generated protagonists as integral to the plot.
“SF”?
Security forces - they were trying to entrap a perp.
I'm wondering how long it will be before the fact that modern cameras can markedly change images will come up in court. There's always been slight issues - especially with digital - of compression artifacts and digital enhancements. But the latter are getting much more complex, with object eraser, light removal and anti-blur stuff. It's going to get so that the picture stored on the card might be markedly different from the target scene, with minimal intervention by the user.
Not to mention allegations that some camera phones are simply replacing reality with prepared images
That was very clever - it knows the time and location of the photograph, so it’s easy to work out what the moon *should* look like in the photo, and then insert that into the image.
Mr. grss, "Man commits legal activity" isn't a great story.
Sure, therefore it shouldn't be the front page news for multiple papers. If the Sun has taken the parents' side at face value and ignored the version told by the individual involved, and no legal wrongdoing is found, there should be repercussions. If the BBC figure has done something illegal, but not what the Sun alleged, there should still be repercussions (like the breaking of lockdown that was not mentioned in the original article and only came out since). It seems pretty clear to me this is about attacking the BBC as a whole from the pov of a Murdoch owned entity that hates the existence of the Beeb. I have huge issues with the BBC, don't watch it and don't watch any TV so I don't have to pay the TV license for it, but that doesn't mean I want it torn apart for the benefit of private media business on the basis of this kind of flimsy nonsense. MPs and ministers immediately started saying they would investigate and the BBC needed to get it's house in order, etc. yet I don't think any have suggested that the Sun should behave more responsibly when reporting things - especially considering that the Leveson Report is only just coming up to it's 11th birthday.
Re the BBC scandal. The original claim is that presenter X asked Y for “sordid images”
What the f are “sordid images”?!
Unless X asked for something illegal - bestiality etc - how can they be “sordid”?
Sordid doesn't mean illegal, though, does it? I agree it's not really a word anyone outside of tabloid journalists use any more. It's just code for 'sex is involved somehow' and 'we think you'll enjoy disapproving of this'.
Re the BBC scandal. The original claim is that presenter X asked Y for “sordid images”
What the f are “sordid images”?!
Unless X asked for something illegal - bestiality etc - how can they be “sordid”?
Imagine the difference between you- a man of the world- and the average reader of the Mail, who is simultaneously outraged and titilated by curve-flaunting. Did you manage to expunge the Mail from your computer in the end?
I have already seen cop shows which have the SF using AI generated protagonists as integral to the plot.
“SF”?
Security forces - they were trying to entrap a perp.
I'm wondering how long it will be before the fact that modern cameras can markedly change images will come up in court. There's always been slight issues - especially with digital - of compression artifacts and digital enhancements. But the latter are getting much more complex, with object eraser, light removal and anti-blur stuff. It's going to get so that the picture stored on the card might be markedly different from the target scene, with minimal intervention by the user.
Not to mention allegations that some camera phones are simply replacing reality with prepared images
That was very clever - it knows the time and location of the photograph, so it’s easy to work out what the moon *should* look like in the photo, and then insert that into the image.
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Edit - I was genuinely surprised to see Eamonn Holmes trying to eat his breakfast whilst presenting the newspaper review this morning. No rule against it of course but it just looked... sloppy.
https://twitter.com/le_parisien/status/1679062745570746372
"Jingle bells, jingle bells, can we rely on your vote?"
I just can't see it.
September/October 24.
Not just sulking!
This was also interesting:
...“Americans supplying Barret 107A sniper rifles was a huge help for the Ukrainian army. Why? Because sniper fire allows you to push the enemy into the trenches quickly, like machine gun fire. However, many military regiments have a shortage of machine guns of all types and the fire of a sniper group can replace machine gun fire. There should be a sniper for every 10 people in the regiment.”..
Sorry wrong PB...
For all practical intents and purposes, the deadline is probably early December, but given the dark nights and the fact that the public won’t like their festive runup being interrupted unnecessarily* then it seems very unlikely to be any later than the end of October.
*2019 was very much an aberration based on necessity. I don’t think the Tories would in a normal electoral cycle get away with holding an election close to Christmas.
Edit: The Barret can do serious damage to even well armoured vehicles - target weak points such as vision blocks. There is a reason that such rifles are referred to as anti-material weapons.
Midjourney is mesmerisingly brilliant now
https://twitter.com/ai_insight1/status/1679026478216880134?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
https://twitter.com/orctonai/status/1675922689280602113?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
https://twitter.com/minchoi/status/1678726407554301952?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
Mercer et femme are a bit cracked imo.
Thanks for the explainer.
https://decrypt.co/147238/political-satirist-slammed-for-creating-deepfakes-of-trump-biden-cheating-on-their-wives
http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/19th-february-1994/8/another-voice
Buried deep in the archives.
I could never watch her in Sherlock without having a little snigger.
Grimly, that might have been for the best- heaven only knows what the tabloids would have done with that story.
In a way I hope not, because it would subtract from Milligan's contribution. If we ask ourselves whether, by his death, Milligan has contributed more to the gaiety of the nation or to its sorrows, the answer is unmistakable. Sorry as we are for the friends and relations, Stephen Milligan has made a massive contribution to the gaiety and happiness of us all at a rather gloomy time in the country's history. Nor do I believe that he made a socialist victory any more certain than it already was with Major as leader. But having commiserated with his various friends and relations, I must also admit that well-intentioned attempts to be solemn about his death succeed only in making it funnier. "
And yet they are both genuinely talented
The past is truly another country. i am not going to look but I bet there's an active subreddit devoted to this hobby with a pinned "how to" to take you through the basics. The point is, it needs to be a lemon because you involuntarily bite on it and the sharpness of the juice wakes you up. A satsuma is hopeless. It has always mystified me how someone as bright as Milligan allegedly was did not understand this.
Edit: Past is a different etc. etc. as Miklosvar rightly comments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuosity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdYoDEh_L7M
Behold the wonders of 1990's computer generated people!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lawnmower_Man_(film) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzwPuJklv4w
Somebody once said that the brilliance of the Matrix wasn't the Hongkongery chopsocky nor the metaphysical subtext, it was that it was the first Hollywood movie to really get to grips with virtual reality. (any body mentioning the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thirteenth_Floor or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_City_(1998_film): yes I know but Rufus Sewell isn't Keanu Reeves, is he?)
Oh and before my forgetful mind slips another track, there is one obvious one going back to the 1980's
Tron 1982: The MCP & Sark All Scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXYmCo_02Jc
If it suits a movie studio to keep Tom Cruise alive, it will be done. They might even de-age him to about 45
Beloved leaders will go on and on and on. We should have kept the Queen alive, frankly. Just an AI deepfake of her waving and saying vaguely sweet things forever. Sorted
The ambulance staff burst out laughing on arrival.
However STAYING in the job after the interview requires serious talent. Which they have
Fleet Street and British tv don’t tolerate utter mediocrity just because of your surname. That’s for politics
But yes, nepotism works in terms of: getting a foot in the door, getting crucial contacts, and also seeing at first hand how an industry functions
/Ducks
Even before the door is opened by daddy's connections, you know the door is there; you know what lies on the other side is viable. In their case, they would know that it is possible to be a successful columnist or television presenter. In Damon Hill's case, it means driving Formula One cars for a living was a real possibility. And similarly for the midwife's and long distance lorry-driver's children.
Step One, know something is possible. Step Two, have daddy open the door. Step Three, don't balls it up. Optional Step Four, pontificate on how your career is open to all those lazy dole claimants.
There's going to be tons of the stuff.
Very sad.
For reasons which I won't go into I went to the funeral; drizzling rain in January absolutely dreadful! And all the girls from his class… 13-14-year-olds were not wearing Macintoshes or any other overgarment
The 2024 election is going to be fun in that direction.
By 2050 most voters will know what's going on...
The more common term being "Stranglewank"
Can't see the appeal to be honest.
Edited on reflection
The practice of (over)interpreting movies has a long history. I always liked "The Swimmer" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MucIADRq0Ys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Swimmer_(1968_film) ), "Juggernaut" was an extremely unsubtle metaphor for 1970's UK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut_(1974_film) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Y_87Cutjg ), "Thunderbolt and Lightfoot" is a gay love story and no-one will convince me otherwise, and "Minority Report" works better if you realise that the latter third of the film is his imprisoned hallucination.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moon-photos-ai-galaxy-s21-s23-ultra
I don't know the degree to which I care about the payment side of things - again OF is hugely popular now, escorting has always been a business, and outright prostitution should be made safe and legal. It makes the story more scandalous only in the sense that society still ostracises sex work. We don't know if the individual involved is a sex worker or not (if they are young, queer and using drugs they certainly fall within the likely demographic but, again, we haven't had their side of the story other than the denials of the way their parents have framed things).
The original story was based on the views of the parents of a young person who denies the details story, and told the Sun they deny the details of the story, and it still made front page news and is the news leader for most newspapers. I do not see that happening if it was a woman.
What they mean is the Google AI engines in the cloud can manipulate the stored images so they no longer represent objective reality but that doesn't sell as well...
All imagery - photos and vids - will soon be inadmissible in court. As inherently unreliable
Echo Malmesbury's warning, and note that it does not mean open season.
I shall not now be seeking to rejoin the Westrminster SNP group until at least October.
Meanwhile I will sit as an independent MP.
What the f are “sordid images”?!
Unless X asked for something illegal - bestiality etc - how can they be “sordid”?
What appears to be the case is that TV is a horrible, cut-throat industry in which many at the top have made a lot of enemies who want to bring them down.
But...having watched the original (and only, obvs) Matrix again recently, it is hard to unsee the metaphor.
It’s a good demonstration, of something that’s going to be a lot more common in the future. I suspect that AI-generated images will be a huge subject of discussion in the forthcoming US election. It’s already generating some interest, and the technology is rapidly improving. https://www.npr.org/2023/06/08/1181097435/desantis-campaign-shares-apparent-ai-generated-fake-images-of-trump-and-fauci
I agree it's not really a word anyone outside of tabloid journalists use any more. It's just code for 'sex is involved somehow' and 'we think you'll enjoy disapproving of this'.