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Let’s not forget BoJo’s ratings as PM – politicalbetting.com
Johnson was an exceptionally unpopular leader when he departed office. Unpopularity equivalent to post-poll tax Thatcher, and May after her deal failed. Worse then everyone in between – Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron. Only Truss (slightly) worse among PMs since 1979 (MORI data) pic.twitter.com/wE3uB9Hwuo
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https://twitter.com/leftiestats/status/1668208550269550592?s=46&t=16Vx1hkPdKeRguANzrOtZQ&fbclid=IwAR34dyvOxNNi1uHeyroKkpfXlzxji8qLYL6qlVWauI0KY4RrbcpEso3hIbQ
Because comparing your policy positions to that of Boris Johnson's right now is a smart thing, politically, actually....
https://twitter.com/BPAS1968/status/1667968579474432000?s=20
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dutch-government-screen-foreign-phd-tech-students-denies-targeting-china-2023-06-12/
But yes, its absolutely disgusting that she's being prosecuted and its not remotely in the public interest. Glad the NHS, feminists, MPs and others are saying so.
Scans and regular pre-natal treatments that she should have had etc were suspended during the pandemic and to have someone prosecuted like this is an absolute disgrace. No equivocation, it is unacceptable and ridiculous.
Afterwards it turned out she was 28 weeks, but considering the NHS hadn't given her a scan due to lockdown, I fail to see how that is a remotely criminal concern.
So the suggestion that Turkey’s application will succeed, as was the point of the demagoguery that won the referendum, is one that is vanishingly unlikely to happen.
Inconveniently that holds for the U.K. too but former Remainers shut up about that.
https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/10/27/gillian-keegan-education-lgbtq-trans/
Finishing the marathon and starting the marathon are two very different things. If it was finished, then the tense to use would be to say that Turkey has joined the EU, but its not finished, but it has begun, so joining is the only grammatically correct language to use.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/customprofiles/build/
Christian 43.0%
Muslim 12.5%
Hindu 8.6%
Sikh 4.1%
Buddhist 0.9%
Jewish 0.2%
Others 0.7%
No religion 23.7%
Not answered 6.2%
I for one am getting a little worried about his values. Whatever you thought of Blair/Brown I always felt their instincts were mine. I'm no longer sure that's the case with Starmer
Except for Boris, who would cause an implosion pre-election.
As for thinking that the idea Turkey could ever join is a sign of mental illness, what does it say about the organisation that gave Turkey
candidate status?
He has called him out this morning. He should keep doing so. He needs to drum in the message that Boris Johnson is yesterdays news, and that if anyone else feels aggrieved at his ‘treatment’ they should quit parliament too.
There’s nothing in it for Sunak to keep walking this awkward tightrope between both wings of the party. It would take a miracle to win the next election anyway, he might as well set down a marker and rid the party of Boris’ influence. Boris had no trouble in doing so with the pro-EU wing back in 2019.
There was a case of trawler skipper who thought he was moving heroin - it turned out to be weed, I think - but sentenced as if he had smuggled smack...
And it was UK policy at the time to have Turkey join the EU too. And Mordaunt was entirely correct that it was the voters chance to have a say on the matter, she never said the UK would not get a say on Turkey joining the EU she said British voters would not get a say which is correct.
Parliament could and would vote to approve Turkish membership without asking the British public, that was governmental policy at the time.
To call Mordaunt a liar is to lie yourself and misrepresent what she said. She was explicit on the difference.
And even if a crime has been technically committed, it fails the public interest test to take this to court.
Edit: I recently read of quacks flogging radium medicines in the C20 who were had up in court for selling dangerous drugs. Some turned out to have zero Ra226 etc in them, so they were done for fraudulent labelling instead ... though I think that might have been in the USA.
Besides, Farage said it, and that pretty much automatically makes it a lie. Who on Earth believes anything that Russophile little sh*t says?
The Christian vs none split seems higher than expected at 43%. More Christians than average, or people of little religion likely to answer the question differently in a more diverse area?
Have we heard of any high-profile names from the local Muslim or Hindu communities, suggested as candidates for the major parties? IIRC there’s some correlation between candidates from religious minorities, and votes for them among that community.
So they're within the joining process. They are joining. Whether they will join is a different matter, just as if someone who is running will finish the race is a different matter.
That ignores the farce of much of his Premiership, and the reality that the joke had long since stopped being funny. But many will buy into the lie.
I agree that the test for a persecution like this should be very very very high. And haven't seen the evidence that it did reach such a level.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Owen
Same as happened last year when the EU Parliament overwhelming voted to accept Ukraine's candidate status, to great and appropriate fanfare.
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1668221551718662147
If the NFL rejects or ignores your application as the EU have with Georgia, then no you're not.
Takes two to tango. The EU voted to begin Turkey's joining process democratically. Voted, past tense. 👍
The environment isn't "serious" and the activists aren't "respectful", so who cares if you slash your proposed investment into green energy by 70-80%. But you have to say the Met is salvageable, because you have to respect the police. You have to say that maybe Gillick competence is bad, because that's what lots of serious journalists say, and they couldn't be wrong. You have to say you'd use the nuclear weapons and kill a load of innocent people for the decisions made by the leaders of their state in any situation that involves nuclear weapons - because the serious people say that mutual mass destruction is the only serious position to take.
If anything, Starmer has a deeply conservative strain of preservation of institutions and tradition, many of which should be challenged and need to be challenged.
https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1668195376971628544?s=20
Charles III: +19
Holly Willoughby: -12
Keir Starmer: -14
Rishi Sunak: -26
Phillip Schofield: -39
Xi Jinping: -40
Boris Johnson: -45
Prince Andrew: -71
Vladimir Putin: -82
https://twitter.com/cFidd/status/1668223278127693826
At the time I knew an ardent pro-Remain Europhile (wanted us in the Single Currency too) who bought property in Istanbul as an investment as he expected that its value would jump up once Turkish accession was complete.
Listen to what she actually said, she said there was nothing that the British voters would be able to do about it. She was right. There would have been no referendum, even if British voters opposed accession Parliament could unilaterally vote it through as Parliament did with the Lisbon Treaty.
The UK voters never got a say on the Lisbon Treaty. The fact Parliament did, does not mean the voters did.
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"Boris is a casually racist, solipsistic, bullying, often ignorant, occasionally entertaining twat.
But he is 1,000,000,000 times better than having Corbyn as PM."
It suited both the EU and Turkey to play the game, dangling membership to each other without actually doing anything towards it.
And there's another point the haters forget: a Turkey that passed the AQ would be a *very* different Turkey than the one that had not. Which is kinda the point.
It was a lie by Vote Leave. And understandable one, but you may want to wonder why you're on the same side of the argument as Farage, especially given his recent pronouncements.
They might well, after getting promoted through the leagues, winning the Premier League and then winning the Champions League. The structure is in place for them to do so.
However, it is safe to say that the team that eventually does win the Champions League will look completely different from the one that is playing in National League North.
And the same with Turkey. Any Turkey joining the EU would have to look wholly different from the one that was allowed to begin the process.
I fail to see why quoting their own words back at them is remotely deceptive or dishonest.
If there's any dishonesty involved, it was Cameron and Merkel who were being dishonest and got caught out by having their own dishonesty accepted at face value.
Either way its a matter of fact though that Turkey was joining. They had passed the starting line of the marathon, which is being accepted (as Ukraine were last year) as a candidate country. Even someone walking very slowly around a marathon course is still doing it.
Curiosity
Some silly stereotyping,
Some welcoming
And a bit of awkwardness.
The Combat18 stuff is limited to dysfunctional twats.
Cameron had plenty of options, but was too arrogant and stupid.
Saying they were 'joining' when there were so many hurdles is exactly the sort of lie that has led Breixt to be an absolute disaster.
If I say that National League team Boreham Wood are playing in the FA Cup, then that's not saying they're going to win the FA Cup, it says they are playing in it. Which they do.
Turkey were past the starting line. They were in the joining process, as officially and legally voted on by the European Parliament and endorsed by the European countries leaders like Merkel, Cameron etc too. Doesn't mean they're going to join, it means they're joining, which is a marathon not a sprint.
The most interesting challenger to Donald Trump just jumped into the race
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4039038-the-most-interesting-challenger-to-donald-trump-just-jumped-into-the-race/
https://twitter.com/MartinRemains/status/1667963696067354624
https://twitter.com/DoodleFlapper/status/1667961164330827778
Where do you call the starting line?
To me the starting line is when they submit an application and the European Union legally votes to accept that application and begin the process. Which had happened.
Philip Schofield - who had an affair with a young male colleague, then denied it - now only marginally less unpopular than Xi Jinping - who covered up a pandemic which killed several million people, is engaged in a genocide in his own country, and seems to be plotting a future in which all other countries play second fiddle to his.
Which I suppose illustrates the problem with this question. Do you like/dislike this person - clearly not much enthusiasm for the people above. But let's assume the people with a negative view of Philip Schofield are largely the same as have a negative view of Xi Jinping: presumably if asked who they had a more negative view of, most would answer Xi. (Or maybe they wouldn't. Maybe people do actively loathe Schofield.)
I don’t think Pence is particularly interesting for Trump unless Pence is willing to kamikaze himself. Pence’s line will have to be “Trump was great until Jan 6th” because he was VP and if he says he was bad, he is saying he was VP in a bad admin.
The GOP base do not care about Jan 6th, and hate Chris Christie and dislike Pence - the two who seem most likely to bring that up.
She said the UK voters would not be given a say.
Just as they weren't given a say over Lisbon.
Which is correct. She was right, unequivocally. Those calling her lying either misunderstand what she said and are wrong, or understand it and are lying themselves about it.