It doesn't help Johnson to have all his supporters resign as MPs - what's going on?
A new Boris Johnson Party?
“I could have saved the day, but I was forced out of Parliament. Without me, he Party went down to this terrible defeat, which I had nothing to do with….”
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Despite what I've just said about Boris I do not regret voting Tory in 2019. Not one iota. Corbyn would have been a catastrophically bad PM, just think of how the UK would have reacted to what's happened in Ukraine with Corbyn in charge. 2019 was a "the devil or the deep blue sea" election, but I think the country made the right choice.
Now if the UK's political parties would just refrain from electing terrible leaders that would really help.
Wouldn’t it be funny if there were someone on the list of Johnson’s resignation honours who did cocaine in the chamber of the House of Commons after hours? Well, I know there’s one on there for sure but I suspect there’s more than one.
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Despite what I've just said about Boris I do not regret voting Tory in 2019. Not one iota. Corbyn would have been a catastrophically bad PM, just think of how the UK would have reacted to what's happened in Ukraine with Corbyn in charge. 2019 was a "the devil or the deep blue sea" election, but I think the country made the right choice.
Now if the UK's political parties would just refrain from electing terrible leaders that would really help.
Plus those undemocratic, lying pissants in the previous Parliament really needed a sound kicking if our democracy was to be secure.
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Despite what I've just said about Boris I do not regret voting Tory in 2019. Not one iota. Corbyn would have been a catastrophically bad PM, just think of how the UK would have reacted to what's happened in Ukraine with Corbyn in charge. 2019 was a "the devil or the deep blue sea" election, but I think the country made the right choice.
Now if the UK's political parties would just refrain from electing terrible leaders that would really help.
I don't think he's read his own indictment given that photo was taken by his co-indicted co-conspirator long before the FBI was involved. But I guess that is just the sign of a flimsy witchhunt.
Of course, it only matters to him what all his rivals and media acolytes say, and mostly that's to kiss his button.
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Despite what I've just said about Boris I do not regret voting Tory in 2019. Not one iota. Corbyn would have been a catastrophically bad PM, just think of how the UK would have reacted to what's happened in Ukraine with Corbyn in charge. 2019 was a "the devil or the deep blue sea" election, but I think the country made the right choice.
Now if the UK's political parties would just refrain from electing terrible leaders that would really help.
Well, the deep blue sea's been unselected and the devil's done a runner.
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Despite what I've just said about Boris I do not regret voting Tory in 2019. Not one iota. Corbyn would have been a catastrophically bad PM, just think of how the UK would have reacted to what's happened in Ukraine with Corbyn in charge. 2019 was a "the devil or the deep blue sea" election, but I think the country made the right choice.
Now if the UK's political parties would just refrain from electing terrible leaders that would really help.
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Despite what I've just said about Boris I do not regret voting Tory in 2019. Not one iota. Corbyn would have been a catastrophically bad PM, just think of how the UK would have reacted to what's happened in Ukraine with Corbyn in charge. 2019 was a "the devil or the deep blue sea" election, but I think the country made the right choice.
Now if the UK's political parties would just refrain from electing terrible leaders that would really help.
Henry Hill of ConHome saying Johnson is done and in the longer term good for Sunak
Sunak doesn't have a longer term. He has until the election. He is a dead man walking and such people have little power and patronage.
Personally, I think he deserved better but that's the way it is.
A like for 'that's the way it is' but did he deserve better? Er, no.
He's a highly capable guy who has chosen public service over making serious money for himself. That sort of person is a lot thinner on the ground than they used to be.
Henry Hill of ConHome saying Johnson is done and in the longer term good for Sunak
Sunak doesn't have a longer term. He has until the election. He is a dead man walking and such people have little power and patronage.
Personally, I think he deserved better but that's the way it is.
A like for 'that's the way it is' but did he deserve better? Er, no.
He's a highly capable guy who has chosen public service over making serious money for himself. That sort of person is a lot thinner on the ground than they used to be.
Also, he has horrendous judgement but I don't think he's actively malign, unlike say Johnson, Cummings or Mogg.
If Johnson does stand in Mid Beds it will be vitally important that he loses. Otherwise he would have received explicit backing from the electorate of Mid Beds for setting aside any system of holding politicians to any level of standards. They would have approved of his lying to the House.
Arguably the principle is the other way round. The electorate have the right to vote for whomever they like.
Of course they do, but who they vote for matters, and if they vote for an MP who lied to the Commons that will have disastrous consequences.
Imagine if Neil Hamilton and won election in 1997? The effect on politics would have been incredibly corrosive.
All people with an interest in the health of our democracy must hope that if Johnson stands for election he is defeated.
Yes. You cannot dissolve the people and elect another. As the USA is currently discovering. Democracy places itself in the hands of the demos. It is a fragile thing, as fragile as human rationality.
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Despite what I've just said about Boris I do not regret voting Tory in 2019. Not one iota. Corbyn would have been a catastrophically bad PM, just think of how the UK would have reacted to what's happened in Ukraine with Corbyn in charge. 2019 was a "the devil or the deep blue sea" election, but I think the country made the right choice.
Now if the UK's political parties would just refrain from electing terrible leaders that would really help.
Plus those undemocratic, lying pissants in the previous Parliament really needed a sound kicking if our democracy was to be secure.
I think they accurately represented a very divided country.
Apols for the possibly dumb question but I am playing catch-up: Mad Nad's resigning with immediate effect but has not been given a peerage, is that right?
Not surprised at all by the ungracious manner of Boris's resignation statement - he doesn't do dignity.
I think it's particularly poor, however, for him to have a personal dig at Harriet Harman, who I'm quite sure carried out her role dispassionately under the gaze of the Tory MPs on the Privileges Committee.
To use Boris's own language, he really is a cad and a bounder.
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Despite what I've just said about Boris I do not regret voting Tory in 2019. Not one iota. Corbyn would have been a catastrophically bad PM, just think of how the UK would have reacted to what's happened in Ukraine with Corbyn in charge. 2019 was a "the devil or the deep blue sea" election, but I think the country made the right choice.
Now if the UK's political parties would just refrain from electing terrible leaders that would really help.
I voted neither Tory nor Labour in 19.
I voted spending the day at Twickenham for the Varsity Rugby drinking to forget the horror shows on offer that Thursday.
Henry Hill of ConHome saying Johnson is done and in the longer term good for Sunak
Sunak doesn't have a longer term. He has until the election. He is a dead man walking and such people have little power and patronage.
Personally, I think he deserved better but that's the way it is.
A like for 'that's the way it is' but did he deserve better? Er, no.
He's a highly capable guy who has chosen public service over making serious money for himself. That sort of person is a lot thinner on the ground than they used to be.
Also, he has horrendous judgement but I don't think he's actively malign, unlike say Johnson, Cummings or Mogg.
Sunak didn't do much to aid the rise of Johnson and Cummings, but he did what he could and more than was necessary.
Apols for the possibly dumb question but I am playing catch-up: Mad Nad's resigning with immediate effect but has not been given a peerage, is that right?
Unless it's the start of a coordinated exit by the losers, no.
Or unless Johnson stands in a by election and wins, but I think the quickest way for the Tories to lose Mid Beds to the Lib Dems would be if he stood there, either for the party or as an Indy,
Henry Hill of ConHome saying Johnson is done and in the longer term good for Sunak
Sunak doesn't have a longer term. He has until the election. He is a dead man walking and such people have little power and patronage.
Personally, I think he deserved better but that's the way it is.
A like for 'that's the way it is' but did he deserve better? Er, no.
He's a highly capable guy who has chosen public service over making serious money for himself. That sort of person is a lot thinner on the ground than they used to be.
Also, he has horrendous judgement but I don't think he's actively malign, unlike say Johnson, Cummings or Mogg.
He was right about Liz Truss's madness (not a high bar admittedly but one the majority of his party's membership stumbled over); he was very probably right about the unacceptable consequences of lockdowns; he was a fairly decent Chancellor without doing a lot about the underlying problems and he was right to resign and bring down Johnson for lying.
OTOH he appointed Cruella. So you are probably right.
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Despite what I've just said about Boris I do not regret voting Tory in 2019. Not one iota. Corbyn would have been a catastrophically bad PM, just think of how the UK would have reacted to what's happened in Ukraine with Corbyn in charge. 2019 was a "the devil or the deep blue sea" election, but I think the country made the right choice.
Now if the UK's political parties would just refrain from electing terrible leaders that would really help.
I voted neither Tory nor Labour in 19.
I voted spending the day at Twickenham for the Varsity Rugby drinking to forget the horror shows on offer that Thursday.
I voted LD. It was a very easy decision given who was leading Labour and the Tories.
Really feel Boris missed an opportunity in his bitterness at being ousted (not that bitterness is unexpected at such a time). He should have put my suggestion to Liz and Rishi that he be made a special envoy to Ukraine and Eastern Europe, make him the face of government bullishness around supporting the Ukrainians. He's box office and rock solid on the issue, it would have worked.
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Despite what I've just said about Boris I do not regret voting Tory in 2019. Not one iota. Corbyn would have been a catastrophically bad PM, just think of how the UK would have reacted to what's happened in Ukraine with Corbyn in charge. 2019 was a "the devil or the deep blue sea" election, but I think the country made the right choice.
Now if the UK's political parties would just refrain from electing terrible leaders that would really help.
I voted neither Tory nor Labour in 19.
I voted spending the day at Twickenham for the Varsity Rugby drinking to forget the horror shows on offer that Thursday.
I voted LD. It was a very easy decision given who was leading Labour and the Tories.
No LibDems in Cannock Chase. I had Socialist nutters, Johnsonite nutters or Ecofascist nutters.
I'm not quite sure what the point of this is, other than the end of the line for the Borisites.
They will know it certainly isn't going going to unseat Sunak on those numbers, or, or in a different direction, help develop a breakaway parliamentary party from within ; it seems more just like the end of the road.
A devastatingly successful Ukrainian operation right now would be a nice dessert after this filling meal of stories.
Well, a few people have noted that the Russians have spent the last few days sharing different video of the same engagement from earlier in the week, suggesting that the Russians haven't done so well in subsequent days (or at least they don't have the video to show for it). So I'm cautiously optimistic.
Johnson says he's been forced out by the Privileges Committee investigation. But the Committee's recommendations have to be approved by the Commons and then there has to be a recall petition before Johnson would have been forced out, and he could still stand and win the subsequent by-election.
So, what he's saying is he doesn't trust his Parliamentary colleagues or his constituents.
I'm going to bed, if the Tory Party could stop setting itself on fire until 7am tomorrow morning I'd appreciate it.
Pop quiz: How many Tory MPs will have taken the Chiltern Hundreds / Manor of Northsted by 7am tomorrow?
A ) Two B ) Three C ) Four D ) More
D) (Hopefully)
At most two I think: Under a Resolution of the House of 2 March 1624, Members of Parliament cannot directly resign their seat.
Death, disqualification and expulsion are the only means by which a Member's seat may be vacated during the lifetime of a Parliament. There are two such offices that are used for disqualification: Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds and of the Manor of Northstead. https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/guides/factsheets/procedure/p11/
I'm not quite sure what the point of this is, other than the end of the line for the Borisites.
They will know it certainly isn't going going to unseat Sunak on those numbers, or, or in a different direction, help develop a breakaway parliamentary party from within ; it seems more just like the end of the road.
I’d be surprised if anyone else resigns tonight over this. What reason would they give?
I'm going to bed, if the Tory Party could stop setting itself on fire until 7am tomorrow morning I'd appreciate it.
Pop quiz: How many Tory MPs will have taken the Chiltern Hundreds / Manor of Northsted by 7am tomorrow?
A ) Two B ) Three C ) Four D ) More
D) (Hopefully)
At most two I think: Under a Resolution of the House of 2 March 1624, Members of Parliament cannot directly resign their seat.
Death, disqualification and expulsion are the only means by which a Member's seat may be vacated during the lifetime of a Parliament. There are two such offices that are used for disqualification: Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds and of the Manor of Northstead. https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/guides/factsheets/procedure/p11/
What happens if you get multiples is I think they get appointed in swift succession, so people only 'hold' the positions very briefly.
These offices are today purely nominal and are ordinarily given by the Chancellor of the Exchequer to any Member5 who applies for them6 or who otherwise indicates to the Chancellor an intention to retire.7 Each office is retained only until the Chancellor appoints another Member who wishes to retire, or until the holder applies for release from it. https://erskinemay.parliament.uk/section/5412/chiltern-hundreds-and-manor-of-northstead?highlight=chiltern hundreds
7 is key as it means you don't have to ask for one of them to be appointed, (sorry, Sinn Fein), and the last bit would seem on its face suggests the Chancellor can swiftly appoint someone else.
I'm not quite sure what the point of this is, other than the end of the line for the Borisites.
It certainly isn't going to unseat Sunak, or help a breakaway ; seems more like the end of the road.
Say Sunak loses six by elections in one night then I reckon he's toast, seeing Rishi ousted would cheer up Boris and his fan club.
But since BoJo wouldn't be available to return, Churchill-like, and his key fan club wouldn't be there either, that would be a stupid petulant act of nihilist self-harm. If we're not in absolute charge, we don't want to play...
... Oh, like everything else the Brexversitive Party has done. Put like that, makes perfect sense.
I'm not quite sure what the point of this is, other than the end of the line for the Borisites.
It certainly isn't going to unseat Sunak, or help a breakaway ; seems more like the end of the road.
Say Sunak loses six by elections in one night then I reckon he's toast, seeing Rishi ousted would cheer up Boris and his fan club.
Disagree. MPs will blame Johnson and the others who followed him for the defeats. Sunak's Clause IV moment in standing up unequivocally to these wreckers?
I'm going to bed, if the Tory Party could stop setting itself on fire until 7am tomorrow morning I'd appreciate it.
Pop quiz: How many Tory MPs will have taken the Chiltern Hundreds / Manor of Northsted by 7am tomorrow?
A ) Two B ) Three C ) Four D ) More
D) (Hopefully)
At most two I think: Under a Resolution of the House of 2 March 1624, Members of Parliament cannot directly resign their seat.
Death, disqualification and expulsion are the only means by which a Member's seat may be vacated during the lifetime of a Parliament. There are two such offices that are used for disqualification: Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds and of the Manor of Northstead. https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/guides/factsheets/procedure/p11/
So if Nadine gets Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds then it would be the Manor of Northstead for Boris. I suppose
Johnson will be releasing his sob story soon, alongside the usual Boris lovers rallying around him
There are precious few Boris-lovers on here tonight. It'd be interesting to go back to 2019 and see how many posters refusing BJ now were firmly BJ-lovers then ...
I voted remain and was a member at the time of the leadership election between Johnson and Hunt and I abstained as I was not happy about either
However as a conservative I voted for the party and to be fair felt Johnson did OK with covid and Ukraine but his actions from patersongate to partygate turned me against him and I turned to Sunak before Truss won and support him since
Far easier on the conscience tonight to note that I have never voted Conservative, and I wouldn't vote for a party led by Johnson if it was the only party on the list.
I have voted Conservative in the past, but the last time I did so was 2010. After that, when they started becoming populists and nationalists, I stopped voting for them.
There is no Conservative Party at present - just a bunch of centre-right nutters and opportunists.
Me too. I could vote for a socially liberal pro-european Conservative party. That seems to be extinct now.
I'm going to bed, if the Tory Party could stop setting itself on fire until 7am tomorrow morning I'd appreciate it.
Pop quiz: How many Tory MPs will have taken the Chiltern Hundreds / Manor of Northsted by 7am tomorrow?
A ) Two B ) Three C ) Four D ) More
D) (Hopefully)
At most two I think: Under a Resolution of the House of 2 March 1624, Members of Parliament cannot directly resign their seat.
Death, disqualification and expulsion are the only means by which a Member's seat may be vacated during the lifetime of a Parliament. There are two such offices that are used for disqualification: Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds and of the Manor of Northstead. https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/guides/factsheets/procedure/p11/
What happens if you get multiples is I think they get appointed in swift succession, so people only 'hold' the positions very briefly.
That's what happened with the Ulster Unionists in 1985 over Sunningdale. 16 consecutive appointments to I think Bailiff of Northstead in 24 hours.
I'm going to bed, if the Tory Party could stop setting itself on fire until 7am tomorrow morning I'd appreciate it.
Pop quiz: How many Tory MPs will have taken the Chiltern Hundreds / Manor of Northsted by 7am tomorrow?
A ) Two B ) Three C ) Four D ) More
D) (Hopefully)
At most two I think: Under a Resolution of the House of 2 March 1624, Members of Parliament cannot directly resign their seat.
Death, disqualification and expulsion are the only means by which a Member's seat may be vacated during the lifetime of a Parliament. There are two such offices that are used for disqualification: Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds and of the Manor of Northstead. https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/guides/factsheets/procedure/p11/
What happens if you get multiples is I think they get appointed in swift succession, so people only 'hold' the positions very briefly.
Yup, that's what happened in 1985 when all 15 UUP/DUP MPs resigned at once.
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Same, I voted Tory in the European elections.
So did I and thanks to our combined votes May's Tories won a magnificent 9% of the vote and 4 MEPs at the 2019 UK European Parliament elections, the first ever national election the Conservatives got less than 10% of the vote
I'm going to bed, if the Tory Party could stop setting itself on fire until 7am tomorrow morning I'd appreciate it.
Pop quiz: How many Tory MPs will have taken the Chiltern Hundreds / Manor of Northsted by 7am tomorrow?
A ) Two B ) Three C ) Four D ) More
D) (Hopefully)
At most two I think: Under a Resolution of the House of 2 March 1624, Members of Parliament cannot directly resign their seat.
Death, disqualification and expulsion are the only means by which a Member's seat may be vacated during the lifetime of a Parliament. There are two such offices that are used for disqualification: Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds and of the Manor of Northstead. https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/guides/factsheets/procedure/p11/
Yes, but you can be appointed to the office, thus being disqualified, and then someone else can be appointed to the office half an hour later, or less. They are just magic tokens.
I voted Tory at the 2019 European elections, which makes me more of a Tory than most Tory party members and many of their MPs I'd bet.
Same, I voted Tory in the European elections.
So did I and thanks to our combined votes May's Tories won a magnificent 9% of the vote and 3 MEPs at the 2019 UK European Parliament elections, the first ever national election the Conservatives got less than 10% of the vote
There are not that many draws in test matches involving England these days so a drawn series is ironically good value at 6/1 with ladbrokes for the Ashes - one draw out of the five leaves a strong possibility of 2-2
I'm going to bed, if the Tory Party could stop setting itself on fire until 7am tomorrow morning I'd appreciate it.
Pop quiz: How many Tory MPs will have taken the Chiltern Hundreds / Manor of Northsted by 7am tomorrow?
A ) Two B ) Three C ) Four D ) More
D) (Hopefully)
At most two I think: Under a Resolution of the House of 2 March 1624, Members of Parliament cannot directly resign their seat.
Death, disqualification and expulsion are the only means by which a Member's seat may be vacated during the lifetime of a Parliament. There are two such offices that are used for disqualification: Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds and of the Manor of Northstead. https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/guides/factsheets/procedure/p11/
"Tuesday 17 December 1985 All 15 Unionist Members of Parliament (MPs) resigned their seats in protest at the Anglo-Irish Agreement (AIA). Their intention was to highlight opposition to the Agreement in Northern Ireland during the by-elections that would be caused."
Not surprised at all by the ungracious manner of Boris's resignation statement - he doesn't do dignity.
I think it's particularly poor, however, for him to have a personal dig at Harriet Harman, who I'm quite sure carried out her role dispassionately under the gaze of the Tory MPs on the Privileges Committee.
To use Boris's own language, he really is a cad and a bounder.
He also libelled the KC advising the Committee.
Boris is - and always has been - a shit. The Tory party is well rid of him.
If it had any sense - a big "if" I grant you these days - it would see this is the start of the very long road back to becoming a decent conservative party, one with a moral compass, some sense of integrity, duty, public service and care for the institutions and people of this country.
My guess is that it won't - not yet anyway - and so its death spiral will continue until the voters put it out of its misery
Meanwhile in Russia: Putin's mouthpieces on state TV are taunting America about "Top Secret" documents sought during the raid of Trump's estate, which they claim had to do with the newest nuclear weapons developed by the US and gleefully imply that Moscow already got to see them. https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1558289365004128264
With any luck they were just lying - it has been known to happen on Russian state TV.
Not surprised at all by the ungracious manner of Boris's resignation statement - he doesn't do dignity.
I think it's particularly poor, however, for him to have a personal dig at Harriet Harman, who I'm quite sure carried out her role dispassionately under the gaze of the Tory MPs on the Privileges Committee.
To use Boris's own language, he really is a cad and a bounder.
He also libelled the KC advising the Committee.
Boris is - and always has been - a shit. The Tory party is well rid of him.
If it had any sense - a big "if" I grant you these days - it would see this is the start of the very long road back to becoming a decent conservative party, one with a moral compass, some sense of integrity, duty, public service and care for the institutions and people of this country.
My guess is that it won't - not yet anyway - and so its death spiral will continue until the voters put it out of its misery
One thing about the Borises of the world is that its never enough that people argue against them, or criticise them, it's always a dark conspiracy or baseless smear on top of being wrong. It's just frustrating as it goes just that bit too far in seeing devils everywhere.
Well, how big are the ultra-Boris loyalists as a group ?
I suppose if over ten or 15 resigned that start to make an impact, but even there the main one would be to leave a slightly weakened, but clearly still intact Sunak, on to lead an even worse result for all the Tories next year ; as the public would now see not only Tories=incompetence + corruption, but also , in the manner of the late 1990's, Tories = incompetence, corruption and division, too.
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The finale is 24 when Biden beats Trump one last time and the Tories go down in a landslide.
We still have one final redux from both Boris and Trump to go.
Now if the UK's political parties would just refrain from electing terrible leaders that would really help.
Wouldn’t it be funny if there were someone on the list of Johnson’s resignation honours who did cocaine in the chamber of the House of Commons after hours? Well, I know there’s one on there for sure but I suspect there’s more than one.
Of course, it only matters to him what all his rivals and media acolytes say, and mostly that's to kiss his button.
Sources say that last year set a precedent and he will continue to be denied a public-facing role.
Andrew had been hoping the King would take a softer stance
https://twitter.com/emsferg/status/1667266330351874049
We’re still on course for zero Tory seats in Wales. The Welsh love the Drake and despise the sleazy slimy corrupt Tories!
The privileges committee will press on with publishing report into Boris Johnson after concluding he misled Parliament over partygate
Given that he is not responding, publication of the report is now likely to be expedited unless Govt tables a 'rescinding motion'
https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1667266534136225797
I think it's particularly poor, however, for him to have a personal dig at Harriet Harman, who I'm quite sure carried out her role dispassionately under the gaze of the Tory MPs on the Privileges Committee.
To use Boris's own language, he really is a cad and a bounder.
A ) Two
B ) Three
C ) Four
D ) More
No reason to pity Rishi that much.
Not in the HOC or HOL and made my day
Or unless Johnson stands in a by election and wins, but I think the quickest way for the Tories to lose Mid Beds to the Lib Dems would be if he stood there, either for the party or as an Indy,
Will you please confirm that Mike isn;t going away while the Ashes are on.
OTOH he appointed Cruella. So you are probably right.
Labour 1/6
Tories 4/1
While that may sound like a euphemism it isn't:
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/lifestyle/homes-and-gardens/monk-bridge-viaduct-inside-the-secret-garden-on-top-of-a-railway-viaduct-in-leeds-city-centre-4041884
LOL
https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/1667248106533003264
Oh well, the NATO gig is free of course.
So I tore up my ballot paper.
They will know it certainly isn't going going to unseat Sunak on those numbers, or, or in a different direction, help develop a breakaway parliamentary party from within ; it seems more just like the end of the road.
Obviously he’s going to run scared.
What a laughable twat he is.
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So, what he's saying is he doesn't trust his Parliamentary colleagues or his constituents.
Oh, why am I surprised that he's still lying...
But I think most of them are sufficiently greedy and pompous to want to stay.
It would take at least 30 and I can't see 30 MPs from this venal lot going all at once. Ten, maybe.
I’m green on a 2024 election and ever so slightly red on 2023. Thinking about laying 2023 a bit as I suspect there has been an overreaction
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Although I’m not sure, apart from pure revenge, how that really helps Boris.
I’m struggling to see the turn of events that brings him back into power.
Under a Resolution of the House of 2 March 1624, Members of Parliament cannot directly resign their seat.
Death, disqualification and expulsion are the only means by which a Member's seat may be vacated during the lifetime of a Parliament. There are two such offices that are used for disqualification: Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds and of the Manor of Northstead.
https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/guides/factsheets/procedure/p11/
A heroic withdrawal, they feel.
Boris Johnson
I wanna knoooooooooooow
Why you’re such a ….
'He lies not because it's in his interests, but because it's in his nature.'
What a lovely evening 🙂
These offices are today purely nominal and are ordinarily given by the Chancellor of the Exchequer to any Member5 who applies for them6 or who otherwise indicates to the Chancellor an intention to retire.7 Each office is retained only until the Chancellor appoints another Member who wishes to retire, or until the holder applies for release from it.
https://erskinemay.parliament.uk/section/5412/chiltern-hundreds-and-manor-of-northstead?highlight=chiltern hundreds
7 is key as it means you don't have to ask for one of them to be appointed, (sorry, Sinn Fein), and the last bit would seem on its face suggests the Chancellor can swiftly appoint someone else.
... Oh, like everything else the Brexversitive Party has done. Put like that, makes perfect sense.
I suppose
Extraordinary risks to U.S. national security. Foreign adversaries would pay tens of millions for that info.
https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1667230245026406428
I am a quitter, not a fighter!
I overestimated Hartlepool, and I overestimated me.
Boris Johnson
I wann knooooooooooooooooow
Why you’re such a …
But not yet for Mid Beds.
All 15 Unionist Members of Parliament (MPs) resigned their seats in protest at the Anglo-Irish Agreement (AIA). Their intention was to highlight opposition to the Agreement in Northern Ireland during the by-elections that would be caused."
https://cain.ulster.ac.uk/events/aia/chron.htm
Bigger political question - will the Monster Raving Loony Party be able to campaign in two (at the present count) by-elections?
Boris is - and always has been - a shit. The Tory party is well rid of him.
If it had any sense - a big "if" I grant you these days - it would see this is the start of the very long road back to becoming a decent conservative party, one with a moral compass, some sense of integrity, duty, public service and care for the institutions and people of this country.
My guess is that it won't - not yet anyway - and so its death spiral will continue until the voters put it out of its misery
Meanwhile in Russia: Putin's mouthpieces on state TV are taunting America about "Top Secret" documents sought during the raid of Trump's estate, which they claim had to do with the newest nuclear weapons developed by the US and gleefully imply that Moscow already got to see them.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1558289365004128264
With any luck they were just lying - it has been known to happen on Russian state TV.
Is there a Lib Dem candidate in place yet?
https://twitter.com/StephenCVGraham/status/1667271935053508608
I suppose if over ten or 15 resigned that start to make an impact, but even there the main one would be to leave a slightly weakened, but clearly still intact Sunak, on to lead an even worse result for all the Tories next year ; as the public would now see not only Tories=incompetence + corruption, but also , in the manner of the late 1990's, Tories = incompetence, corruption and division, too.