He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
"Whooppee-fucking-do, hey I'm impressed!"
In NI, 11 constituencies out of 18 voted to Remain.
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
We're talking about council areas because that's how it's been widely reported.
In any case you're wrong: Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
We're talking about council areas because that's how it's been widely reported.
In any case you're wrong: Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
Well technically if you really want to get pedantic Birmingham and Sheffield voted Leave despite being big cities but we were talking the overall trend ie Remain won a majority of the vote in big cities, Leave won a majority of the vote in rural areas and ex industrial and market towns
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
We're talking about council areas because that's how it's been widely reported.
In any case you're wrong: Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
Well technically if you really want to get pedantic Birmingham and Sheffield voted Leave despite being big cities but we were talking the overall trend
The 382 voting areas were grouped into twelve regional counts and there was separate declarations for each of the regional counts.
In England, as happened in the 2011 AV referendum, the 326 districts were used as the local voting areas and the returns of these then fed into nine English regional counts. In Scotland the local voting areas were the 32 local councils which then fed their results into the Scottish national count, and in Wales the 22 local councils were their local voting areas before the results were then fed into the Welsh national count. Northern Ireland, as was the case in the AV referendum, was a single voting and national count area although local totals by Westminster parliamentary constituency areas were announced.
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
We're talking about council areas because that's how it's been widely reported.
In any case you're wrong: Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
Well technically if you really want to get pedantic Birmingham and Sheffield voted Leave despite being big cities but we were talking the overall trend ie Remain won a majority of the vote in big cities, Leave won a majority of the vote in rural areas and ex industrial and market towns
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
We're talking about council areas because that's how it's been widely reported.
In any case you're wrong: Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
Well technically if you really want to get pedantic Birmingham and Sheffield voted Leave despite being big cities but we were talking the overall trend ie Remain won a majority of the vote in big cities, Leave won a majority of the vote in rural areas and ex industrial and market towns
I think B'ham was the result that prompted John Curtice and the BBC to declare the overall result as a Leave victory, because most people were expecting at least a small Remain win there and in fact it voted Leave by around 4,000 votes.
Some weekends I like to pop over to Na h-Eileanan an Iar and just ride up and down the metro system there. Every stop there's something different. Indoor climbing, a new Somali restaurant, boutique shops dedicated to socks and socks alone. It's the kind of vibrant niche-rich environment you can only get in the truly global conurbations. There are some who regret that the previously peaceful coves and peat bogs between Stornoway and Tarbert are now entirely replaced by urban sprawl. Some question whether something has been sacrificed on the altar of having a population in excess of eleven million people where previously there wasn't even 25,000. But the positives outweigh the negatives, and it's without any doubt that the metropolitan nature of Hebridopolis, Like London and other world cities, was the sole reason it voted Remain in the 2016 EU referendum.
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
We're talking about council areas because that's how it's been widely reported.
In any case you're wrong: Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
Well technically if you really want to get pedantic Birmingham and Sheffield voted Leave despite being big cities but we were talking the overall trend ie Remain won a majority of the vote in big cities, Leave won a majority of the vote in rural areas and ex industrial and market towns
The "big cities" thing wasn't me. If you want to have it out with with person who said that, have a word with that HYUFD guy. But watch out, he's a bit fighty and bit all over the place.
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
We're talking about council areas because that's how it's been widely reported.
In any case you're wrong: Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
Well technically if you really want to get pedantic Birmingham and Sheffield voted Leave despite being big cities but we were talking the overall trend ie Remain won a majority of the vote in big cities, Leave won a majority of the vote in rural areas and ex industrial and market towns
The "big cities" thing wasn't me. If you want to have it out with with person who said that, have a word with that HYUFD guy. But watch out, he's a bit fighty and bit all over the place.
No, you said 'Remain won in every part of Scotland' and were completely wrong as Banff and Buchan Westminster constituency voted 54% Leave
"I have long been critical of some UK plans to take us on the road to net zero. They entail making it very dear to use energy here so we import high energy using products from abroad. They stop us getting out our own oil and gas so we import more from overseas. They run down our food production from home farms, only to bring in more from abroad.
All those who do think getting world CO2 down is a crucial priority should attack these plans, as they mean more CO 2 produced in shipping all the things to us. If we bring in more LNG gas that produces far more CO 2 in its compression, shipping and conversion than our own gas down a pipe. If we import German or Chinese steel they may produce more CO 2 in its manufacture than we do, but they will certainly produce more CO 2 in its transport.
Today I want to concentrate on the damage these policies do to our state finances. They lose us lots of revenue, by substituting foreign for domestic production. All the super taxes paid on oil and gas output go to a foreign producer government not to the Treasury. All the taxes on wages and profits in making things go to overseas governments where the exporting factories lie. There is a major drain on our balance of payments which means the country has to borrow more from overseas to pay the bills in foreign currencies, leading to a higher debt interest burden. This is economic self harm on a grand scale... "
Why do we live in a UK where these sorts of basic facts need to be spelled out as if to a 5yr old? Germany also has to grapple with Net Zero, but when it comes to keeping their economy on the rails, they're pulling down towns to dig coal mines.
Satire of the highest order. Top stuff.
Except he is right in every singke thing he says in that article.
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
We're talking about council areas because that's how it's been widely reported.
In any case you're wrong: Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
Well technically if you really want to get pedantic Birmingham and Sheffield voted Leave despite being big cities but we were talking the overall trend ie Remain won a majority of the vote in big cities, Leave won a majority of the vote in rural areas and ex industrial and market towns
The "big cities" thing wasn't me. If you want to have it out with with person who said that, have a word with that HYUFD guy. But watch out, he's a bit fighty and bit all over the place.
No, you said 'Remain won in every part of Scotland' and were completely wrong as Banff and Buchan Westminster constituency voted 54% Leave
In England, as happened in the 2011 AV referendum, the 326 districts were used as the local voting areas and the returns of these then fed into nine English regional counts. In Scotland the local voting areas were the 32 local councils which then fed their results into the Scottish national count
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
We're talking about council areas because that's how it's been widely reported.
In any case you're wrong: Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
Well technically if you really want to get pedantic Birmingham and Sheffield voted Leave despite being big cities but we were talking the overall trend ie Remain won a majority of the vote in big cities, Leave won a majority of the vote in rural areas and ex industrial and market towns
The "big cities" thing wasn't me. If you want to have it out with with person who said that, have a word with that HYUFD guy. But watch out, he's a bit fighty and bit all over the place.
No, you said 'Remain won in every part of Scotland' and were completely wrong as Banff and Buchan Westminster constituency voted 54% Leave
In England, as happened in the 2011 AV referendum, the 326 districts were used as the local voting areas and the returns of these then fed into nine English regional counts. In Scotland the local voting areas were the 32 local councils which then fed their results into the Scottish national count
This is a very funny PB pedant dispute, since of course not 'every part' of Scotland voted remain, if there was no constituency involved you could find a town or some other subdivision which did somewhere, which is why 'part' is meaningless as it has no definition. Even if the vote was 80/20 there'd be an estate or two which voted mostly leave and so not 'every' part would have been for Remain, but it wouldn't mean much! I know he's bigging up it's not one house it's a constituency, but the argument is over the word 'part' and so would have continued on a lesser scale without that element.
"I have long been critical of some UK plans to take us on the road to net zero. They entail making it very dear to use energy here so we import high energy using products from abroad. They stop us getting out our own oil and gas so we import more from overseas. They run down our food production from home farms, only to bring in more from abroad.
All those who do think getting world CO2 down is a crucial priority should attack these plans, as they mean more CO 2 produced in shipping all the things to us. If we bring in more LNG gas that produces far more CO 2 in its compression, shipping and conversion than our own gas down a pipe. If we import German or Chinese steel they may produce more CO 2 in its manufacture than we do, but they will certainly produce more CO 2 in its transport.
Today I want to concentrate on the damage these policies do to our state finances. They lose us lots of revenue, by substituting foreign for domestic production. All the super taxes paid on oil and gas output go to a foreign producer government not to the Treasury. All the taxes on wages and profits in making things go to overseas governments where the exporting factories lie. There is a major drain on our balance of payments which means the country has to borrow more from overseas to pay the bills in foreign currencies, leading to a higher debt interest burden. This is economic self harm on a grand scale... "
Why do we live in a UK where these sorts of basic facts need to be spelled out as if to a 5yr old? Germany also has to grapple with Net Zero, but when it comes to keeping their economy on the rails, they're pulling down towns to dig coal mines.
Satire of the highest order. Top stuff.
Except he is right in every singke thing he says in that article.
He is spot on that outsourcing CO2 still means the CO2 is produced... it just means it isn't produced in the UK.
With that said, i'm not convinced on the "LNG produces more CO2" argument.
Sure liquefaction involves energy (you do need to supercool the gas) and therefore emissions, but the amount of work required to bring a field onstream is probably going to account for a far higher proportion than any cost of cooling.
This is one of these areas where the market is probably right. If it's cheaper to import LNG, then we should probably do it over subsidising local production.
"I have long been critical of some UK plans to take us on the road to net zero. They entail making it very dear to use energy here so we import high energy using products from abroad. They stop us getting out our own oil and gas so we import more from overseas. They run down our food production from home farms, only to bring in more from abroad.
All those who do think getting world CO2 down is a crucial priority should attack these plans, as they mean more CO 2 produced in shipping all the things to us. If we bring in more LNG gas that produces far more CO 2 in its compression, shipping and conversion than our own gas down a pipe. If we import German or Chinese steel they may produce more CO 2 in its manufacture than we do, but they will certainly produce more CO 2 in its transport.
Today I want to concentrate on the damage these policies do to our state finances. They lose us lots of revenue, by substituting foreign for domestic production. All the super taxes paid on oil and gas output go to a foreign producer government not to the Treasury. All the taxes on wages and profits iudisn making things go to overseas governments where the exporting factories lie. There is a major drain on our balance of payments which means the country has to borrow more from overseas to pay the bills in foreign currencies, leading to a higher debt interest burden. This is economic self harm on a grand scale... "
Why do we live in a UK where these sorts of basic facts need to be spelled out as if to a 5yr old? Germany also has to grapple with Net Zero, but when it comes to keeping their economy on the rails, they're pulling down towns to dig coal mines.
Satire of the highest order. Top stuff.
Except he is right in every singke thing he says in that article.
He is spot on that outsourcing CO2 still means the CO2 is produced... it just means it isn't produced in the UK.
With that said, i'm not convinced on the "LNG produces more CO2" argument.
Sure liquefaction involves energy (you do need to supercool the gas) and therefore emissions, but the amount of work required to bring a field onstream is probably going to account for a far higher proportion than any cost of cooling.
This is one of these areas where the market is probably right. If it's cheaper to import LNG, then we should probably do it over subsidising local production.
Iimport it from where, exactly? We have just had a year-long lesson in the folly of getting a strategic resource from a potentially hostile power. I am not qualified to do the numbers on CO2 and am suspicious of those who do. But we have had 50 years of entertaing the Russians and Saudis in return for their oil and gas, and if we can stop doing that and use our own, let's do that.
"I have long been critical of some UK plans to take us on the road to net zero. They entail making it very dear to use energy here so we import high energy using products from abroad. They stop us getting out our own oil and gas so we import more from overseas. They run down our food production from home farms, only to bring in more from abroad.
All those who do think getting world CO2 down is a crucial priority should attack these plans, as they mean more CO 2 produced in shipping all the things to us. If we bring in more LNG gas that produces far more CO 2 in its compression, shipping and conversion than our own gas down a pipe. If we import German or Chinese steel they may produce more CO 2 in its manufacture than we do, but they will certainly produce more CO 2 in its transport.
Today I want to concentrate on the damage these policies do to our state finances. They lose us lots of revenue, by substituting foreign for domestic production. All the super taxes paid on oil and gas output go to a foreign producer government not to the Treasury. All the taxes on wages and profits in making things go to overseas governments where the exporting factories lie. There is a major drain on our balance of payments which means the country has to borrow more from overseas to pay the bills in foreign currencies, leading to a higher debt interest burden. This is economic self harm on a grand scale... "
Why do we live in a UK where these sorts of basic facts need to be spelled out as if to a 5yr old? Germany also has to grapple with Net Zero, but when it comes to keeping their economy on the rails, they're pulling down towns to dig coal mines.
Satire of the highest order. Top stuff.
Except he is right in every singke thing he says in that article.
He is spot on that outsourcing CO2 still means the CO2 is produced... it just means it isn't produced in the UK.
With that said, i'm not convinced on the "LNG produces more CO2" argument.
Sure liquefaction involves energy (you do need to supercool the gas) and therefore emissions, but the amount of work required to bring a field onstream is probably going to account for a far higher proportion than any cost of cooling.
This is one of these areas where the market is probably right. If it's cheaper to import LNG, then we should probably do it over subsidising local production.
It's a relatively marginal argument anyway. The bit that's evident nonsense is this: ...All those who do think getting world CO2 down is a crucial priority should attack these plans.. Transition to net zero involves cost. Those who think it a 'crucial priority' will prioritise doing so - and demonstrating to the rest of the world that it's feasible - over comparatively small differences in cost.
Redwood might disagree with their position, but his argument on how they should reason is indeed nonsense.
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
We're talking about council areas because that's how it's been widely reported.
In any case you're wrong: Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
Well technically if you really want to get pedantic Birmingham and Sheffield voted Leave despite being big cities but we were talking the overall trend ie Remain won a majority of the vote in big cities, Leave won a majority of the vote in rural areas and ex industrial and market towns
The "big cities" thing wasn't me. If you want to have it out with with person who said that, have a word with that HYUFD guy. But watch out, he's a bit fighty and bit all over the place.
No, you said 'Remain won in every part of Scotland' and were completely wrong as Banff and Buchan Westminster constituency voted 54% Leave
In England, as happened in the 2011 AV referendum, the 326 districts were used as the local voting areas and the returns of these then fed into nine English regional counts. In Scotland the local voting areas were the 32 local councils which then fed their results into the Scottish national count
This is a very funny PB pedant dispute, since of course not 'every part' of Scotland voted remain, if there was no constituency involved you could find a town or some other subdivision which did somewhere, which is why 'part' is meaningless as it has no definition. Even if the vote was 80/20 there'd be an estate or two which voted mostly leave and so not 'every' part would have been for Remain, but it wouldn't mean much! I know he's bigging up it's not one house it's a constituency, but the argument is over the word 'part' and so would have continued on a lesser scale without that element.
Given that large numbers of leave voters have changed their minds, it's about as relevant as a discussion of the Corn Laws.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
Russia brings two new charges against Crimean Tatar human rights defender 29.05.2023 Halya Coynash Abdureshit Dzhepparov is accused of ‘discrediting the Russian armed forces’ over material that had nothing to do with him, as well as with ‘abusing freedom of mass information’ in occupied Crimea where Russia has eliminated all such freedom https://khpg.org/en/1608812311
I usually end up watching top TV shows about 20 years after they first come out. For instance I watched the original Twin Peaks series from 1990 in about 2012. So I'll probably be watching Succession in about 2038.
Yes, I'm limbering up for Mad Men. Then I'm thinking about Frazier.
Can I recommend Blake's 7 and The Prisoner?
And sldo the original series of The Fugitive. Surprisingly watchable 50 yrs plus on. Some over the acting is a bit ham but the appearance of Lt Gérard always ups the ante.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
"I have long been critical of some UK plans to take us on the road to net zero. They entail making it very dear to use energy here so we import high energy using products from abroad. They stop us getting out our own oil and gas so we import more from overseas. They run down our food production from home farms, only to bring in more from abroad.
All those who do think getting world CO2 down is a crucial priority should attack these plans, as they mean more CO 2 produced in shipping all the things to us. If we bring in more LNG gas that produces far more CO 2 in its compression, shipping and conversion than our own gas down a pipe. If we import German or Chinese steel they may produce more CO 2 in its manufacture than we do, but they will certainly produce more CO 2 in its transport.
Today I want to concentrate on the damage these policies do to our state finances. They lose us lots of revenue, by substituting foreign for domestic production. All the super taxes paid on oil and gas output go to a foreign producer government not to the Treasury. All the taxes on wages and profits in making things go to overseas governments where the exporting factories lie. There is a major drain on our balance of payments which means the country has to borrow more from overseas to pay the bills in foreign currencies, leading to a higher debt interest burden. This is economic self harm on a grand scale... "
Why do we live in a UK where these sorts of basic facts need to be spelled out as if to a 5yr old? Germany also has to grapple with Net Zero, but when it comes to keeping their economy on the rails, they're pulling down towns to dig coal mines.
Satire of the highest order. Top stuff.
Except he is right in every singke thing he says in that article.
He is spot on that outsourcing CO2 still means the CO2 is produced... it just means it isn't produced in the UK.
With that said, i'm not convinced on the "LNG produces more CO2" argument.
Sure liquefaction involves energy (you do need to supercool the gas) and therefore emissions, but the amount of work required to bring a field onstream is probably going to account for a far higher proportion than any cost of cooling.
This is one of these areas where the market is probably right. If it's cheaper to import LNG, then we should probably do it over subsidising local production.
If the market says that there are deposits in the north sea that is worth using then a policy like Starmer has announced by which we choose to leave it in the ground, only to bring in imports from elsewhere to meet our energy needs is beyond stupid and is indeed self harming. I am not in favour of subsidising the production of north sea gas and oil for the reasons Redwood points out: that energy cost makes certain types of manufacturing here uncompetitive. But to not use it when it is cost effective to do so...jeez.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
He's won everywhere which isn't Istanbul, Ankara, Mediterranean Coast or Kurdish east. Country is very divided geographically.
Looks very much like the Brexit vote or US 2016 election yes, Remain and Hillary won the big cities comfortably but Leave and Trump won everywhere else
Every council area in Scotland voted Remain. All of them. Rural or urban. All.
As I said Banff and Buchan, a constituency of over 50,000 people and predominantly rural and coastal fishing ports, voted 54% Leave so your statement Remain won in every part of Scotland was wrong
Every single council area, HYUFD. All of them.
NOT every single part of Scotland though which is what you said
Yeah, well, Tam down the way in number 12, he lives alone and he voted Alba so I guess Alba won "parts" of Scotland too. Just the one hoose ken, but it counts.
We are talking a whole parliamentary constituency, not 1 house. As I said Banff and Buchan voted 54% Leave
We're talking about council areas because that's how it's been widely reported.
In any case you're wrong: Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
Well technically if you really want to get pedantic Birmingham and Sheffield voted Leave despite being big cities but we were talking the overall trend ie Remain won a majority of the vote in big cities, Leave won a majority of the vote in rural areas and ex industrial and market towns
The "big cities" thing wasn't me. If you want to have it out with with person who said that, have a word with that HYUFD guy. But watch out, he's a bit fighty and bit all over the place.
No, you said 'Remain won in every part of Scotland' and were completely wrong as Banff and Buchan Westminster constituency voted 54% Leave
In England, as happened in the 2011 AV referendum, the 326 districts were used as the local voting areas and the returns of these then fed into nine English regional counts. In Scotland the local voting areas were the 32 local councils which then fed their results into the Scottish national count
This is a very funny PB pedant dispute, since of course not 'every part' of Scotland voted remain, if there was no constituency involved you could find a town or some other subdivision which did somewhere, which is why 'part' is meaningless as it has no definition. Even if the vote was 80/20 there'd be an estate or two which voted mostly leave and so not 'every' part would have been for Remain, but it wouldn't mean much! I know he's bigging up it's not one house it's a constituency, but the argument is over the word 'part' and so would have continued on a lesser scale without that element.
Aren't the constituency vote numbers estimates not actual results, because the numbers were counted on the basis of larger aggregations? So the argument that 'constituency X voted X' can't be regarded as categorically true anyway? Apologies if I have misremembered.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
If you do lots of travel though, won't that in itself contribute to global warming?
Comedy watching HY cling onto Banff and Buchan having voted leave.
They wouldn't do now. Banff & Buchan is farming, fishing and energy workers. Two huge fishing ports, and at the time the fishermen believed that freedom from the CFP would benefit them.
What do they think now? They have been screwed, and even local fishing leaders who had been vocal for leave are vocal for "we've been screwed".
And let local lickspittle MP David Duguid sends constituency newsletters extolling the benefits of leave, and that he's with the fishing industry who are having a marvellous time out of the EU.
You can only tell people the sky is green for so long. His time will come, and HY can cling to whatever salami sliced stat of the past he wants - his lot are widely and rightly recognised as lying corrupt shysters.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
There were a number of creatures, including at least some dinosaurs, who survived that extinction event too.
Load of Fing bollocks obviously made up by some thick poncy southern / London thickos wishing tehy could be as good as the Scottish. Their inferiority complexes glowing in the dark and done using their tame lickspittle unionist toilet roll manufacturers.
It does appear that pensions are shaping up to be one of the main issues at the next election with politicians of all sides seeing them as a bit of a piggy bank to dip into.
In a similar vein to Rachel Reeves comments last week the Tony Blair institute wants to look at consolidation and dipping into the funds to ‘save the economy’.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
There were a number of creatures, including at least some dinosaurs, who survived that extinction event too.
And unless we manage to take down every species of living thing when we go (NB This Is Not A Challenge), the survivors will continue to evolve to fill out all the empty spaces in the planet's ecology. It will just take a few tens of millions of years.
The great thing about studying Earth Science is the bracing sense of perspective it gives you.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
He’s predicting that life will continue after a dinosaur-level extinction event. Which, in truth, should not be controversial.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
If you do lots of travel though, won't that in itself contribute to global warming?
To quote a Russian folk saying that seems particularly appropriate: "My house is burning down, I may as well warm my hands"
Yes, global tourism is a substantial part of climate change, even supposed eco-tourism.
It does appear that pensions are shaping up to be one of the main issues at the next election with politicians of all sides seeing them as a bit of a piggy bank to dip into.
In a similar vein to Rachel Reeves comments last week the Tony Blair institute wants to look at consolidation and dipping into the funds to ‘save the economy’.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
If you do lots of travel though, won't that in itself contribute to global warming?
Well indeed. Climate change isn't going to happen on a timescale that affects us very much. It the quality of the lives of our descendants that depends on our actions now.
It does appear that pensions are shaping up to be one of the main issues at the next election with politicians of all sides seeing them as a bit of a piggy bank to dip into.
In a similar vein to Rachel Reeves comments last week the Tony Blair institute wants to look at consolidation and dipping into the funds to ‘save the economy’.
paywall and I woudl not give those rogues a penny, pity.
Hi Malc hope all is good with you up there.
Lovely sunny day down in Durham.
Shouldn’t be Paywalled. I was able to read it. Yes. I share your sentiment. It’s my pot. I really don’t want govts dipping into it. They don’t have a great track record on investment.
There is of course a human ambition cost as well - Brits can no longer live, travel (without visas) for a undefined period or work in 27 other countries and vice versa.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
He’s predicting that life will continue after a dinosaur-level extinction event. Which, in truth, should not be controversial.
It’s difficult to conceive of something that will take out every last human but not other mammal species.
If you believe that the climate will self-correct in the absence of industrial society then this is likely to happen before all the humans are dead.
It does appear that pensions are shaping up to be one of the main issues at the next election with politicians of all sides seeing them as a bit of a piggy bank to dip into.
In a similar vein to Rachel Reeves comments last week the Tony Blair institute wants to look at consolidation and dipping into the funds to ‘save the economy’.
paywall and I woudl not give those rogues a penny, pity.
Hi Malc hope all is good with you up there.
Lovely sunny day down in Durham.
Shouldn’t be Paywalled. I was able to read it. Yes. I share your sentiment. It’s my pot. I really don’t want govts dipping into it. They don’t have a great track record on investment.
Taz, weather has been brilliant up here. I will be real miffed if these barsteward try to get their hands on mine.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
In previous mass extinctions up to 95% of species perished. As the current one accelerates, there is no guarantee that we would be a surviving species.
... tame lickspittle unionist toilet roll manufacturers...
Do they not have Andrex in Scotland, Malc? I know the toilet roll aisles are divided into "coarse", "very coarse" and "sandpaper", but I thought even the proud Scots would soften their hearts and bottoms by allowing more than one brand.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
He’s predicting that life will continue after a dinosaur-level extinction event. Which, in truth, should not be controversial.
I think people would notice such a thing. Albeit briefly.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
There were a number of creatures, including at least some dinosaurs, who survived that extinction event too.
And unless we manage to take down every species of living thing when we go (NB This Is Not A Challenge), the survivors will continue to evolve to fill out all the empty spaces in the planet's ecology. It will just take a few tens of millions of years.
The great thing about studying Earth Science is the bracing sense of perspective it gives you.
If it were a challenge, we might just about be able to do it. James Hansen once calculated that if we were to burn all the extractable fossil fuels quickly enough, we could trigger a runaway greenhouse effect and turn the Earth into another Venus. Later analyses showed that this was unlikely, but not impossible given the margins for error. There's still a chance we could do it, especially if we get lucky with sudden methane emissions from undersea clathrates.
... tame lickspittle unionist toilet roll manufacturers...
Do they not have Andrex in Scotland, Malc? I know the toilet roll aisles are divided into "coarse", "very coarse" and "sandpaper", but I thought even the proud Scots would soften their hearts and bottoms by allowing more than one brand.
The Scotsman is for the diehard unionists , I prefer quilted Andrex myself.
US-China trade war would hurt Britain most, says leaked analysis
An escalating subsidies war between the US and China is set to cause serious damage to the UK economy, according to leaked internal government analysis. The high-level government document suggests that the UK would need to adopt a more interventionist approach to the economy after President Biden announced a $369 billion package of green subsidies last year...
British manufacturers have calculated that the government would have to spend more than £100 billion to match American subsidies on items such as semiconductor chips...
The document, circulated among the prime minister, the chancellor and a small group of cabinet ministers, and seen by The Times, says the Inflation Reduction Act demonstrates US determination to defend its key industries against China, even if the protectionism comes “at the UK’s expense”. The analysis finds that the UK’s economy will suffer more than those of the US, EU and China in the event of a full-blown subsidies war.
It says the UK cannot adopt “a wholesale activist industrial policy” like the US, EU or China because it is only a “mid-sized economy outside major trading blocs”. The UK does not have the same “fiscal capacity or economic strengths” as the world’s superpowers, the paper goes on to say.
The government should therefore build up a “comparative advantage” in some parts of the economy “that can subsequently be leveraged” in a trade war rather than taking a blanket approach to subsidies, the paper argues, giving the example of artificial intelligence and quantum computing.
The analysis cites the example of the UK semiconductor industry and finds that British businesses rely on China for 40 per cent of their silicon chips, which are used in almost all modern goods… but creating a semiconductor industry in the UK from scratch would require tens of billions of pounds of government support.
Comedy watching HY cling onto Banff and Buchan having voted leave.
They wouldn't do now. Banff & Buchan is farming, fishing and energy workers. Two huge fishing ports, and at the time the fishermen believed that freedom from the CFP would benefit them.
What do they think now? They have been screwed, and even local fishing leaders who had been vocal for leave are vocal for "we've been screwed".
And let local lickspittle MP David Duguid sends constituency newsletters extolling the benefits of leave, and that he's with the fishing industry who are having a marvellous time out of the EU.
You can only tell people the sky is green for so long. His time will come, and HY can cling to whatever salami sliced stat of the past he wants - his lot are widely and rightly recognised as lying corrupt shysters.
Wrong, the latest Scotland only Yougov MRP has the Conservatives holding Banff and Buchan comfortably with 37% to 28% for the SNP and 20% for Labour
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
There were a number of creatures, including at least some dinosaurs, who survived that extinction event too.
And unless we manage to take down every species of living thing when we go (NB This Is Not A Challenge), the survivors will continue to evolve to fill out all the empty spaces in the planet's ecology. It will just take a few tens of millions of years.
The great thing about studying Earth Science is the bracing sense of perspective it gives you.
If it were a challenge, we might just about be able to do it. James Hansen once calculated that if we were to burn all the extractable fossil fuels quickly enough, we could trigger a runaway greenhouse effect and turn the Earth into another Venus. Later analyses showed that this was unlikely, but not impossible given the margins for error. There's still a chance we could do it, especially if we get lucky with sudden methane emissions from undersea clathrates.
So chances of human extinction in the next 100 years:
AI Robo-apocalypse 1/2 Catastrophic climate change evens Thermonuclear war 2/1 Asteroid impact or similar 5/1
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
There were a number of creatures, including at least some dinosaurs, who survived that extinction event too.
And unless we manage to take down every species of living thing when we go (NB This Is Not A Challenge), the survivors will continue to evolve to fill out all the empty spaces in the planet's ecology. It will just take a few tens of millions of years.
The great thing about studying Earth Science is the bracing sense of perspective it gives you.
If it were a challenge, we might just about be able to do it. James Hansen once calculated that if we were to burn all the extractable fossil fuels quickly enough, we could trigger a runaway greenhouse effect and turn the Earth into another Venus. Later analyses showed that this was unlikely, but not impossible given the margins for error. There's still a chance we could do it, especially if we get lucky with sudden methane emissions from undersea clathrates.
So chances of human extinction in the next 100 years:
AI Robo-apocalypse 1/2 Catastrophic climate change evens Thermonuclear war 2/1 Asteroid impact or similar 5/1
Any other runners and riders?
Well evangelicals read Revelation and believe the apocalypse will be followed by the second coming of Christ so might flow a few plagues into the mix too or volcanic eruptions of supervolcanoes just to ensure they don't miss out! Not to forget another virus but more deadly with no vaccine.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
There were a number of creatures, including at least some dinosaurs, who survived that extinction event too.
And unless we manage to take down every species of living thing when we go (NB This Is Not A Challenge), the survivors will continue to evolve to fill out all the empty spaces in the planet's ecology. It will just take a few tens of millions of years.
The great thing about studying Earth Science is the bracing sense of perspective it gives you.
If it were a challenge, we might just about be able to do it. James Hansen once calculated that if we were to burn all the extractable fossil fuels quickly enough, we could trigger a runaway greenhouse effect and turn the Earth into another Venus. Later analyses showed that this was unlikely, but not impossible given the margins for error. There's still a chance we could do it, especially if we get lucky with sudden methane emissions from undersea clathrates.
So chances of human extinction in the next 100 years:
AI Robo-apocalypse 1/2 Catastrophic climate change evens Thermonuclear war 2/1 Asteroid impact or similar 5/1
Any other runners and riders?
Well evangelicals read Revelation and believe the apocalypse will be followed by the second coming of Christ so might flow a few plagues into the mix too or volcanic eruptions of supervolcanoes just to ensure they don't miss out! Not to forget another virus but more deadly with no vaccine.
Of course most of us hope none of the above occur
Christ came back already. He was born in Baqubah in 1996. He died from cancer after inhaling dust from an explosion caused by a depleted uranium shell, aged 8.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
There were a number of creatures, including at least some dinosaurs, who survived that extinction event too.
And unless we manage to take down every species of living thing when we go (NB This Is Not A Challenge), the survivors will continue to evolve to fill out all the empty spaces in the planet's ecology. It will just take a few tens of millions of years.
The great thing about studying Earth Science is the bracing sense of perspective it gives you.
If it were a challenge, we might just about be able to do it. James Hansen once calculated that if we were to burn all the extractable fossil fuels quickly enough, we could trigger a runaway greenhouse effect and turn the Earth into another Venus. Later analyses showed that this was unlikely, but not impossible given the margins for error. There's still a chance we could do it, especially if we get lucky with sudden methane emissions from undersea clathrates.
So chances of human extinction in the next 100 years:
AI Robo-apocalypse 1/2 Catastrophic climate change evens Thermonuclear war 2/1 Asteroid impact or similar 5/1
Any other runners and riders?
In our interconnected and interdependent world, it would be very difficult for the survivors of a catastrophe to maintain anything like our current standard of living. Imagine, say, that the rest of the world were rendered uninhabitable but the UK were miraculously spared. How would we fare with no other countries to import from or export to, or to exchange ideas with?
Comedy watching HY cling onto Banff and Buchan having voted leave.
They wouldn't do now. Banff & Buchan is farming, fishing and energy workers. Two huge fishing ports, and at the time the fishermen believed that freedom from the CFP would benefit them.
What do they think now? They have been screwed, and even local fishing leaders who had been vocal for leave are vocal for "we've been screwed".
And let local lickspittle MP David Duguid sends constituency newsletters extolling the benefits of leave, and that he's with the fishing industry who are having a marvellous time out of the EU.
You can only tell people the sky is green for so long. His time will come, and HY can cling to whatever salami sliced stat of the past he wants - his lot are widely and rightly recognised as lying corrupt shysters.
Wrong, the latest Scotland only Yougov MRP has the Conservatives holding Banff and Buchan comfortably with 37% to 28% for the SNP and 20% for Labour
... tame lickspittle unionist toilet roll manufacturers...
Do they not have Andrex in Scotland, Malc? I know the toilet roll aisles are divided into "coarse", "very coarse" and "sandpaper", but I thought even the proud Scots would soften their hearts and bottoms by allowing more than one brand.
The Scotsman is for the diehard unionists , I prefer quilted Andrex myself.
Morning all, morning Malc. Thought you were on your way to Italy?
US-China trade war would hurt Britain most, says leaked analysis
An escalating subsidies war between the US and China is set to cause serious damage to the UK economy, according to leaked internal government analysis. The high-level government document suggests that the UK would need to adopt a more interventionist approach to the economy after President Biden announced a $369 billion package of green subsidies last year...
British manufacturers have calculated that the government would have to spend more than £100 billion to match American subsidies on items such as semiconductor chips...
The document, circulated among the prime minister, the chancellor and a small group of cabinet ministers, and seen by The Times, says the Inflation Reduction Act demonstrates US determination to defend its key industries against China, even if the protectionism comes “at the UK’s expense”. The analysis finds that the UK’s economy will suffer more than those of the US, EU and China in the event of a full-blown subsidies war.
It says the UK cannot adopt “a wholesale activist industrial policy” like the US, EU or China because it is only a “mid-sized economy outside major trading blocs”. The UK does not have the same “fiscal capacity or economic strengths” as the world’s superpowers, the paper goes on to say.
The government should therefore build up a “comparative advantage” in some parts of the economy “that can subsequently be leveraged” in a trade war rather than taking a blanket approach to subsidies, the paper argues, giving the example of artificial intelligence and quantum computing.
The analysis cites the example of the UK semiconductor industry and finds that British businesses rely on China for 40 per cent of their silicon chips, which are used in almost all modern goods… but creating a semiconductor industry in the UK from scratch would require tens of billions of pounds of government support.
Proving rather expensive, all this lovely sovereignty, isn’t it?
If only we’d done more to value domestic manufacturing during the Tory and new labour years rather than be happy to see it off shored to China and other LCCs.
DeSantis accused of ‘catastrophic’ climate approach after campaign launch Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign ...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
It is depressing. I am increasingly of the defeatist view that I should get out and see the world before we destroy it. With morons like De Santis, Trump, Redwood and similar across the world, the Anthropocene era mass extinction is just going to accelerate, until it swallows us too.
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
Yeah. What moronic climate crisis deniers don't seem to realise is that tackling the crisis isn't about saving the planet, it's about saving human civilisation. Life on Earth will survive, even prosper, once this too clever by half race of apes kills themselves off.
You’re predicting a dinosaur-level extinction event that only affects humans?
There were a number of creatures, including at least some dinosaurs, who survived that extinction event too.
And unless we manage to take down every species of living thing when we go (NB This Is Not A Challenge), the survivors will continue to evolve to fill out all the empty spaces in the planet's ecology. It will just take a few tens of millions of years.
The great thing about studying Earth Science is the bracing sense of perspective it gives you.
If it were a challenge, we might just about be able to do it. James Hansen once calculated that if we were to burn all the extractable fossil fuels quickly enough, we could trigger a runaway greenhouse effect and turn the Earth into another Venus. Later analyses showed that this was unlikely, but not impossible given the margins for error. There's still a chance we could do it, especially if we get lucky with sudden methane emissions from undersea clathrates.
So chances of human extinction in the next 100 years:
AI Robo-apocalypse 1/2 Catastrophic climate change evens Thermonuclear war 2/1 Asteroid impact or similar 5/1
Any other runners and riders?
In our interconnected and interdependent world, it would be very difficult for the survivors of a catastrophe to maintain anything like our current standard of living. Imagine, say, that the rest of the world were rendered uninhabitable but the UK were miraculously spared. How would we fare with no other countries to import from or export to, or to exchange ideas with?
The number of attempted immigrants would send Braverman even more dooiaiiy than she is already!
Comedy watching HY cling onto Banff and Buchan having voted leave.
They wouldn't do now. Banff & Buchan is farming, fishing and energy workers. Two huge fishing ports, and at the time the fishermen believed that freedom from the CFP would benefit them.
What do they think now? They have been screwed, and even local fishing leaders who had been vocal for leave are vocal for "we've been screwed".
And let local lickspittle MP David Duguid sends constituency newsletters extolling the benefits of leave, and that he's with the fishing industry who are having a marvellous time out of the EU.
You can only tell people the sky is green for so long. His time will come, and HY can cling to whatever salami sliced stat of the past he wants - his lot are widely and rightly recognised as lying corrupt shysters.
Wrong, the latest Scotland only Yougov MRP has the Conservatives holding Banff and Buchan comfortably with 37% to 28% for the SNP and 20% for Labour
It's not wrong that local fishing leaders are calling Duguid out.
Incidentally, if you get utterly mullered in the election, and Duggie holds his seat, will you be proclaiming victory?
In Banff and Buchan certainly, the seat was SNP from 1987 to 2017 so if the Conservatives hold Banff and Buchan despite losing the general election UK wide next year it would be a huge boost to the local party there
... tame lickspittle unionist toilet roll manufacturers...
Do they not have Andrex in Scotland, Malc? I know the toilet roll aisles are divided into "coarse", "very coarse" and "sandpaper", but I thought even the proud Scots would soften their hearts and bottoms by allowing more than one brand.
The Scotsman is for the diehard unionists , I prefer quilted Andrex myself.
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In NI, 11 constituencies out of 18 voted to Remain.
In any case you're wrong:
Remain... won the big cities comfortably but Leave... won everywhere else.
How many big cities do you reckon there are in Aberdeenshire?
In England, as happened in the 2011 AV referendum, the 326 districts were used as the local voting areas and the returns of these then fed into nine English regional counts. In Scotland the local voting areas were the 32 local councils which then fed their results into the Scottish national count, and in Wales the 22 local councils were their local voting areas before the results were then fed into the Welsh national count. Northern Ireland, as was the case in the AV referendum, was a single voting and national count area although local totals by Westminster parliamentary constituency areas were announced.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#Voting,_voting_areas,_and_counts
There are some who regret that the previously peaceful coves and peat bogs between Stornoway and Tarbert are now entirely replaced by urban sprawl. Some question whether something has been sacrificed on the altar of having a population in excess of eleven million people where previously there wasn't even 25,000.
But the positives outweigh the negatives, and it's without any doubt that the metropolitan nature of Hebridopolis, Like London and other world cities, was the sole reason it voted Remain in the 2016 EU referendum.
If you want to have it out with with person who said that, have a word with that HYUFD guy. But watch out, he's a bit fighty and bit all over the place.
In England, as happened in the 2011 AV referendum, the 326 districts were used as the local voting areas and the returns of these then fed into nine English regional counts. In Scotland the local voting areas were the 32 local councils which then fed their results into the Scottish national count
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#Voting,_voting_areas,_and_counts
With that said, i'm not convinced on the "LNG produces more CO2" argument.
Sure liquefaction involves energy (you do need to supercool the gas) and therefore emissions, but the amount of work required to bring a field onstream is probably going to account for a far higher proportion than any cost of cooling.
This is one of these areas where the market is probably right. If it's cheaper to import LNG, then we should probably do it over subsidising local production.
...All those who do think getting world CO2 down is a crucial priority should attack these plans..
Transition to net zero involves cost. Those who think it a 'crucial priority' will prioritise doing so - and demonstrating to the rest of the world that it's feasible - over comparatively small differences in cost.
Redwood might disagree with their position, but his argument on how they should reason is indeed nonsense.
Republican ‘trying to out-Trump Trump’ on climate, expert says, as governor says he rejects the ‘politicization of the weather’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/ron-desantis-climate-crisis-campaign
...DeSantis, the Republican Florida governor who announced his bid for the White House via a glitch-heavy Twitter stream on Wednesday, has previously dismissed concerns about global heating as “leftwing stuff” and he expanded upon this theme during a Fox News interview following his campaign launch...
...While governor, DeSantis has adopted bills banning Florida’s cities from adopting 100% clean energy goals and barred the state’s pension fund from making investment decisions that consider the climate crisis due to what he called a corporate attempt to “impose an ideological agenda on the American people”. He has also attacked the US military for being “woke” for warning about the national security risks posed by climate impacts...
DeSantis makes Redwood look a genius, as he argues his policies aren't political.
29.05.2023
Halya Coynash
Abdureshit Dzhepparov is accused of ‘discrediting the Russian armed forces’ over material that had nothing to do with him, as well as with ‘abusing freedom of mass information’ in occupied Crimea where Russia has eliminated all such freedom
https://khpg.org/en/1608812311
https://twitter.com/AlecLuhn/status/1662875321861910529
The only consolation is that in geological time new species will repopulate the world, as wondrous as the ones that we are dooming now.
‘I’ve followed Radiohead from the start – I recognise genius when I hear it’: Rickie Lee Jones’s honest playlist
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/may/29/rickie-lee-jones-honest-playlist
They wouldn't do now. Banff & Buchan is farming, fishing and energy workers. Two huge fishing ports, and at the time the fishermen believed that freedom from the CFP would benefit them.
What do they think now? They have been screwed, and even local fishing leaders who had been vocal for leave are vocal for "we've been screwed".
And let local lickspittle MP David Duguid sends constituency newsletters extolling the benefits of leave, and that he's with the fishing industry who are having a marvellous time out of the EU.
You can only tell people the sky is green for so long. His time will come, and HY can cling to whatever salami sliced stat of the past he wants - his lot are widely and rightly recognised as lying corrupt shysters.
@BritainElects
Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (-)
CON: 28% (-1)
LDEM: 9% (-2)
GRN: 7% (+2)
REF: 6% (-)
via
@OpiniumResearch
, 23 - 26 May
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1663069661137887232?cxt=HHwWgIDTzfTCtJQuAAAA
It does appear that pensions are shaping up to be one of the main issues at the next election with politicians of all sides seeing them as a bit of a piggy bank to dip into.
In a similar vein to Rachel Reeves comments last week the Tony Blair institute wants to look at consolidation and dipping into the funds to ‘save the economy’.
What could possibly go wrong !
No mention of how SIPPs would be affected.
https://www.ft.com/content/b8d1d792-6bdd-4338-957b-968459bf11fe
The great thing about studying Earth Science is the bracing sense of perspective it gives you.
Yes, global tourism is a substantial part of climate change, even supposed eco-tourism.
In the first of a two-part series, Times reporters look at the effect that leaving the EU has had on the services industry
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-cost-of-brexit-red-tape-tensions-and-lack-of-labour-qfqvw8kx9
Lovely sunny day down in Durham.
Shouldn’t be Paywalled. I was able to read it. Yes. I share your sentiment. It’s my pot. I really don’t want govts dipping into it. They don’t have a great track record on investment.
If you believe that the climate will self-correct in the absence of industrial society then this is likely to happen before all the humans are dead.
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-is-mass-extinction-and-are-we-facing-a-sixth-one.html#:~:text=The Permian mass extinction, which,to evolve by this time.
An escalating subsidies war between the US and China is set to cause serious damage to the UK economy, according to leaked internal government analysis.
The high-level government document suggests that the UK would need to adopt a more interventionist approach to the economy after President Biden announced a $369 billion package of green subsidies last year...
British manufacturers have calculated that the government would have to spend more than £100 billion to match American subsidies on items such as semiconductor chips...
The document, circulated among the prime minister, the chancellor and a small group of cabinet ministers, and seen by The Times, says the Inflation Reduction Act demonstrates US determination to defend its key industries against China, even if the protectionism comes “at the UK’s expense”. The analysis finds that the UK’s economy will suffer more than those of the US, EU and China in the event of a full-blown subsidies war.
It says the UK cannot adopt “a wholesale activist industrial policy” like the US, EU or China because it is only a “mid-sized economy outside major trading blocs”. The UK does not have the same “fiscal capacity or economic strengths” as the world’s superpowers, the paper goes on to say.
The government should therefore build up a “comparative advantage” in some parts of the economy “that can subsequently be leveraged” in a trade war rather than taking a blanket approach to subsidies, the paper argues, giving the example of artificial intelligence and quantum computing.
The analysis cites the example of the UK semiconductor industry and finds that British businesses rely on China for 40 per cent of their silicon chips, which are used in almost all modern goods… but creating a semiconductor industry in the UK from scratch would require tens of billions of pounds of government support.
https://apple.news/A_hW-vQAIToyyfWXW5fnqbg
Proving rather expensive, all this lovely sovereignty, isn’t it?
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2023/05/24/scotland-mrp-snp-could-fall-just-27-seats-if-elect
AI Robo-apocalypse 1/2
Catastrophic climate change evens
Thermonuclear war 2/1
Asteroid impact or similar 5/1
Any other runners and riders?
Of course most of us hope none of the above occur
Incidentally, if you get utterly mullered in the election, and Duggie holds his seat, will you be proclaiming victory?
The EU is also very vulnerable.
https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/eus-strategic-dependencies-unveiled
This thread, despite being better than the previous two, has been ousted