Yes, embarrassing, but we didn't run from either of those and fought first before surrendering.
Singapore comes bloody close to a French performance though.
I prefer not to think about it.
British military history includes rather a lot of running away. The retreat from Greece, then Crete, the Retreat from Burma in 1942, some epic retreats in the North African campaign, and of course the Daddy of all retreats at Dunkirk, and that is just WW2.
Retreating successfully is a key military skill, and not to be sneered at.
Withdrawal is different to rout.
The first three of those, and Dunkirk, were planned military withdrawals, which are often sensible in the face of overwhelming force; they allow you to preserve your force in being to fight another day on better terms.
A rout is different - that's where the enemy has you on the run, and it's entirely disorderly, leading to surrender in pockets or en-masse.
That's what happened at Singapore.
AIUI, once the Japanese had captured the water supplies for Singapore, then we were fucked. There was no easy way to recapture them, and the Japanese could simply have blockaded us and let us starve and dehydrate.
or given the UK outnumbered the japanese 2 to 1 they could have attacked and fought their way out. Failure of leadership
Singapore was a disgraceful performance, on our part.
The British Army's second most shameful day in its history.
Quite possibly saved a lot of military lives though, given it came back at the end of the war anyway. Not to say it was the right decision, but the Stalingrad / Bakhmut approach isn’t always the right one.
Rather sadly, the point of the armed forces is not to stay alive, it's to ensure they die in a useful way...
Err, no. It is to make sure that other armies soldiers die.
Despite the recurring meme that Russia promotes Scottish secession, here's a proud Unionist pooping out Kremlin talking points. Won't be long before he's doing the whole 'Ukraine is actually part of Russia' schtik (unless he's sectioned first).
That isn't really a discredited line. The debunking efforts on that seemed rather to confirm the story.
Despite the recurring meme that Russia promotes Scottish secession, here's a proud Unionist pooping out Kremlin talking points. Won't be long before he's doing the whole 'Ukraine is actually part of Russia' schtik (unless he's sectioned first).
That isn't really a discredited line. The debunking efforts on that seemed rather to confirm the story.
Its bollocks. It all ties in with the Trump attacks on the hapless Hunter Biden and ignores the fact that for much of the time it is claimed these labs were in existence the US president was ... Donald Trump.
I wonder if Trump will visit Alex Salmond? He can have his picture taken next to the big YES sign in Salmond's garden and claim it refers to if he won the election. Then pop down the street to Bert Fowlie's to buy an interesting pie.
An ego-off between Trump and Salmond. Could be fun.
Despite the recurring meme that Russia promotes Scottish secession, here's a proud Unionist pooping out Kremlin talking points. Won't be long before he's doing the whole 'Ukraine is actually part of Russia' schtik (unless he's sectioned first).
That isn't really a discredited line. The debunking efforts on that seemed rather to confirm the story.
Its bollocks. It all ties in with the Trump attacks on the hapless Hunter Biden and ignores the fact that for much of the time it is claimed these labs were in existence the US president was ... Donald Trump.
It doesn't really matter about Trump or any of that nonsense. The fact is that the US has sponsored a series of biolabs in Ukraine, and they have been looking at highly dangerous materials/weapons, hence the US warning about the security of the labs in the invasion. The US has given a series of humanitarian reasons as to why they have done this, and that's fine, but it's not a denial of the point made by Neil Oliver as quoted in the Tweet.
Despite the recurring meme that Russia promotes Scottish secession, here's a proud Unionist pooping out Kremlin talking points. Won't be long before he's doing the whole 'Ukraine is actually part of Russia' schtik (unless he's sectioned first).
That isn't really a discredited line. The debunking efforts on that seemed rather to confirm the story.
We ban the Russian trolls, but we’re stuck with our home-grown conspiracy theorists.
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An ego-off between Trump and Salmond. Could be fun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_bioweapons_conspiracy_theory