The BBC reports that Mark Harper has refused to speculate on when something will happen.
I listened to his interview on Sky and it was pointless as the presenter was trying to extract Sunak's decision and reasons when Sunak has not made a decision
Whatever Sunak's decision, back or sack, it will be awesome.
It carries risk whatever his decision is but he will have to justify it
Hardly. Rishi is PM, he can hire and fire as he likes. You must know the story told about Clement Attlee;
A minister, whom he summoned to see him, was horrified to be told that the Prime Minister wanted his resignation, and asked why. “Not up to it,” said Attlee, and that was that.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
This is not a story unless it has a clear timescale and process. At the moment it is perfectly possible that in due time Ukraine will have a 'government' which does not intend to apply to join NATO. So at the moment the question is NATO's unambiguous commitment to making sure that does not occur. This is not in place. This is called displacement or substitution activity, not news.
When you get 83% of the country behind something that is usually the government, the opposition, the opposition to the opposition…..
Basically everyone, apart from Piers Corbyn.
That suggests rather strongly that no conceivable Ukrainian government would be against joining NATO.
Depends on the peace negotiations, if they ever happen, surely? A guarantee not to join NATO will be one of the possible bargaining chips. Stoltenberg's statement at the moment is kind of meaningless except in terms of strengthening that potential bargaining chip.
This is not a story unless it has a clear timescale and process. At the moment it is perfectly possible that in due time Ukraine will have a 'government' which does not intend to apply to join NATO. So at the moment the question is NATO's unambiguous commitment to making sure that does not occur. This is not in place. This is called displacement or substitution activity, not news.
Yes, I've been talking about this for a while. Local press are in bed with Houchen and not pushing him at all. But Private Eye has done enough FOI requests to uncover almost unbelievable facts: £450m of public money spent decontaminating the land (STDC) Developers hand-picked by Houchen given 90% of new Development company for £0 a share (Teesworks Ltd) Teesworks Ltd buys decontaminated land for £1 an acre, with right to buy more for the same. Teesworks thus takes all the rent from the new tenants- c. £140m Teesworks awards ground works contracts to companies newly set-up by their sons.
We spend all the money. We hand the thing over to the right people for nothing. They make all the money for £0 investment or risk. We have no scrutiny or say.
This sounds like the murky business of regeneration in areas of low land value. It is how the land is cleaned up and the economic development facilitated whilst de-risking it for the public sector. There will be great risks and potentially great rewards for the developer. There are always these associated political fireworks.
I think the point is there are great rewards and no risk for associates of Houchen. The risks are mostly held by the taxpayer, as decided by Houchen's party.
Just assessing through the vague facts as outlined above, they would presumably incur significant costs in building whatever it is they are expecting to get rent out of. This is still not going to be easy. Lots of commercial development is unviable outside of certain specific high demand locations. I would guess that building anything involves some form of de-facto subsidy.
But this isn't a 'subsidy'. It's a straight giveaway to a favoured contractor, without any profit clawback mechanism.
The BBC reports that Mark Harper has refused to speculate on when something will happen.
I listened to his interview on Sky and it was pointless as the presenter was trying to extract Sunak's decision and reasons when Sunak has not made a decision
Whatever Sunak's decision, back or sack, it will be awesome.
It carries risk whatever his decision is but he will have to justify it
Hardly. Rishi is PM, he can hire and fire as he likes. You must know the story told about Clement Attlee;
A minister, whom he summoned to see him, was horrified to be told that the Prime Minister wanted his resignation, and asked why. “Not up to it,” said Attlee, and that was that.
Sunak can't give that reason. Who would he have left?
Excitingly, my postal voting paper (last one in the period I set up during the pandemic) has arrived, and I've received zero electoral literature whatsoever. Interestingly, there are more candidates than usual for the locals, including the SDP and Reform UK.
Unless you live in a marginal ward the parties are targeting you are unlikely to receive any more than an election address at most
@techneUK 11m NEW POLL: Labour lead down to 13 in Techne tracker
Lab 44% (-1) Con 31% (+1) LibDem 10% (nc) Reform 5% (-1) Green 5% (+1) SNP 3% (nc)
1,632 questioned on 19-20 April.
+/- 12-13 April.
Data - technetracker.co.uk
This is the poll I was talking about in the previous thread. Below the bonnet:
1. More 2019 Tories returning to the Tories 2. No Labour to Tory movement 3. Notable 2019 Labour to LibDem movemen
Could just be noise, but if not that point 3 looks significant ahead of the locals given the nature of the seats being contested.
The locals are reminding voters in the Blue Wall that the LibDems are still alive and kicking, with the usual piles of LD leaflets pouring in. It may be an indication of tactical voting potential at the GE. [Edit: Apols to Southam, who I see made the point on the last thread]
I actually think the Scottish polls are less awful for the SNP than expected. What do they have to do to fall into second place?? Presumably they have a high floor of voters who are very keen on independence and aren't interested in the Greens for one reason or another. Those voters have nowhere else to go, unless they fancy the cranky-looking Alba.
Labour are up on May 2019 though, the LDs are down, the Tories basically unchanged
@techneUK 11m NEW POLL: Labour lead down to 13 in Techne tracker
Lab 44% (-1) Con 31% (+1) LibDem 10% (nc) Reform 5% (-1) Green 5% (+1) SNP 3% (nc)
1,632 questioned on 19-20 April.
+/- 12-13 April.
Data - technetracker.co.uk
This is the poll I was talking about in the previous thread. Below the bonnet:
1. More 2019 Tories returning to the Tories 2. No Labour to Tory movement 3. Notable 2019 Labour to LibDem movemen
Could just be noise, but if not that point 3 looks significant ahead of the locals given the nature of the seats being contested.
The locals are reminding voters in the Blue Wall that the LibDems are still alive and kicking, with the usual piles of LD leaflets pouring in. It may be an indication of tactical voting potential at the GE. [Edit: Apols to Southam, who I see made the point on the last thread]
I actually think the Scottish polls are less awful for the SNP than expected. What do they have to do to fall into second place?? Presumably they have a high floor of voters who are very keen on independence and aren't interested in the Greens for one reason or another. Those voters have nowhere else to go, unless they fancy the cranky-looking Alba.
What would the SNP have to do to fall into second place? Good question. But a dismal augury is that in NI the dismal and wicked DUP and SF are in first places while SDLP and UU trail; and the Alliance trail too.
The BBC reports that Mark Harper has refused to speculate on when something will happen.
I listened to his interview on Sky and it was pointless as the presenter was trying to extract Sunak's decision and reasons when Sunak has not made a decision
Whatever Sunak's decision, back or sack, it will be awesome.
It carries risk whatever his decision is but he will have to justify it
Hardly. Rishi is PM, he can hire and fire as he likes. You must know the story told about Clement Attlee;
A minister, whom he summoned to see him, was horrified to be told that the Prime Minister wanted his resignation, and asked why. “Not up to it,” said Attlee, and that was that.
That's not going to wash here, given how long Raab's been around. Why then appoint him in the first place ? And it's his party he has to justify it to. Sacking one of your few real loyalists from a senior position is potentially a problem in an administration of toxic nutters and the useless. The resulting reshuffle presents risks.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
The BBC reports that Mark Harper has refused to speculate on when something will happen.
I listened to his interview on Sky and it was pointless as the presenter was trying to extract Sunak's decision and reasons when Sunak has not made a decision
Whatever Sunak's decision, back or sack, it will be awesome.
It carries risk whatever his decision is but he will have to justify it
Hardly. Rishi is PM, he can hire and fire as he likes. You must know the story told about Clement Attlee;
A minister, whom he summoned to see him, was horrified to be told that the Prime Minister wanted his resignation, and asked why. “Not up to it,” said Attlee, and that was that.
That's not going to wash here, given how long Raab's been around. Why then appoint him in the first place ? And it's his party he has to justify it to. Sacking one of your few real loyalists from a senior position is potentially a problem in an administration of toxic nutters and the useless. The resulting reshuffle presents risks.
Excitingly, my postal voting paper (last one in the period I set up during the pandemic) has arrived, and I've received zero electoral literature whatsoever. Interestingly, there are more candidates than usual for the locals, including the SDP and Reform UK.
Unless you live in a marginal ward the parties are targeting you are unlikely to receive any more than an election address at most
Letter went to postal voter addresses -about 250 out of 1250. Canvassing now -with a "sorry I missed you" mini leaflet. Main leaflet goes out from Wednesday next week (a week before election) - Conservative one already here - too early IMO.
This is not a story unless it has a clear timescale and process. At the moment it is perfectly possible that in due time Ukraine will have a 'government' which does not intend to apply to join NATO. So at the moment the question is NATO's unambiguous commitment to making sure that does not occur. This is not in place. This is called displacement or substitution activity, not news.
When you get 83% of the country behind something that is usually the government, the opposition, the opposition to the opposition…..
Basically everyone, apart from Piers Corbyn.
That suggests rather strongly that no conceivable Ukrainian government would be against joining NATO.
Are you telling Putin that a government of his puppets is inconceivable? With his army?
Don't stand near any high windows.
Putin has an army? Could have fooled me.
It’s those old T-55s I feel sorry for. They must have hoped to see out their days, happily sitting in museums dedicated to Soviet might, as their many younger and fitter relatives got on with the dirty business of war.
The BBC reports that Mark Harper has refused to speculate on when something will happen.
I listened to his interview on Sky and it was pointless as the presenter was trying to extract Sunak's decision and reasons when Sunak has not made a decision
Whatever Sunak's decision, back or sack, it will be awesome.
It carries risk whatever his decision is but he will have to justify it
Hardly. Rishi is PM, he can hire and fire as he likes. You must know the story told about Clement Attlee;
A minister, whom he summoned to see him, was horrified to be told that the Prime Minister wanted his resignation, and asked why. “Not up to it,” said Attlee, and that was that.
That's not going to wash here, given how long Raab's been around. Why then appoint him in the first place ? And it's his party he has to justify it to. Sacking one of your few real loyalists from a senior position is potentially a problem in an administration of toxic nutters and the useless. The resulting reshuffle presents risks.
Completely o/T I mentioned before that Jersey has arranged a pilot scheme which allows French nationals arriving on commercial services for day trips to travel with their national ID cards. It starts today and will be interesting to see if it’s a success and if in any way it can be rolled out to the UK and expanded.
I appreciate it’s a small island that’s easier to control but a good start.
It’s clear that if the EU and UK side want to do things to everyone’s benefit they can by negotiations rather than flinging shit at each other.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
He's still pushing that his exam and structural reforms in education were a success. Whatever his brain power, he doesn't do recantations. No matter what the disaster.
The BBC reports that Mark Harper has refused to speculate on when something will happen.
I listened to his interview on Sky and it was pointless as the presenter was trying to extract Sunak's decision and reasons when Sunak has not made a decision
Whatever Sunak's decision, back or sack, it will be awesome.
It carries risk whatever his decision is but he will have to justify it
Hardly. Rishi is PM, he can hire and fire as he likes. You must know the story told about Clement Attlee;
A minister, whom he summoned to see him, was horrified to be told that the Prime Minister wanted his resignation, and asked why. “Not up to it,” said Attlee, and that was that.
That's not going to wash here, given how long Raab's been around. Why then appoint him in the first place ? And it's his party he has to justify it to. Sacking one of your few real loyalists from a senior position is potentially a problem in an administration of toxic nutters and the useless. The resulting reshuffle presents risks.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
Brexit, like Scottish independence, raises two different questions - which is why they are hard to handle.
One, Do you want Brexit/Independence (existential question) Two, If yes, how do you want your country run (political question)
Politicians have failed to distinguish these enough. Take the SNP. Those who support Independence will have all sorts of other views; right, left, centre, everything else. Most people are centrists. The clue is in the word.
But the SNP is associated with a fairly narrow political spectrum. So narrow they failed to elect the best candidate for leader just recently (a bit of luck for Kate).
Most Brexiteers are centrists too - there aren't 17 million extremists around, but it has got commandeered by factionalism.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
The other one to watch (unfortunately) is Cummings. He left himself some space to wriggle- Brexit might go wrong, but only in some branches of history. If it was a punt, it was one at good odds, that has turned out a value loser.
And it's not his fault* that the politicians propelled into power by Brexit to run Brexit have been a bunch of fools, shysters and ne'er-do-wells.
Completely o/T I mentioned before that Jersey has arranged a pilot scheme which allows French nationals arriving on commercial services for day trips to travel with their national ID cards. It starts today and will be interesting to see if it’s a success and if in any way it can be rolled out to the UK and expanded.
I appreciate it’s a small island that’s easier to control but a good start.
It’s clear that if the EU and UK side want to do things to everyone’s benefit they can by negotiations rather than flinging shit at each other.
I know a German ID card can get you to Turkey, for example, so shouldn't be impossible to do. It would make school trips to GB a lot more likely.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
The other one to watch (unfortunately) is Cummings. He left himself some space to wriggle- Brexit might go wrong, but only in some branches of history. If it was a punt, it was one at good odds, that has turned out a value loser.
And it's not his fault* that the politicians propelled into power by Brexit to run Brexit have been a bunch of fools, shysters and ne'er-do-wells.
(* It is, at least a bit.)
The only reason to watch Cummings is if you are worried your phone might mysteriously disappear.
@techneUK 11m NEW POLL: Labour lead down to 13 in Techne tracker
Lab 44% (-1) Con 31% (+1) LibDem 10% (nc) Reform 5% (-1) Green 5% (+1) SNP 3% (nc)
1,632 questioned on 19-20 April.
+/- 12-13 April.
Data - technetracker.co.uk
This is the poll I was talking about in the previous thread. Below the bonnet:
1. More 2019 Tories returning to the Tories 2. No Labour to Tory movement 3. Notable 2019 Labour to LibDem movemen
Could just be noise, but if not that point 3 looks significant ahead of the locals given the nature of the seats being contested.
The locals are reminding voters in the Blue Wall that the LibDems are still alive and kicking, with the usual piles of LD leaflets pouring in. It may be an indication of tactical voting potential at the GE. [Edit: Apols to Southam, who I see made the point on the last thread]
I actually think the Scottish polls are less awful for the SNP than expected. What do they have to do to fall into second place?? Presumably they have a high floor of voters who are very keen on independence and aren't interested in the Greens for one reason or another. Those voters have nowhere else to go, unless they fancy the cranky-looking Alba.
Actually did some canvassing yesterday (Misterton ward, Harborough District Council) - people pleased I had come round and a lot of "Well I'm not voting Conservative". Last time result was 432 Tory, 323 Lib Dem (me) and 70 Labour. Spent time trying to convince Labour voters to support me tactically - my "sorry I missed you" leaflet has the inevitable dodgy bar chart.
This is not a story unless it has a clear timescale and process. At the moment it is perfectly possible that in due time Ukraine will have a 'government' which does not intend to apply to join NATO. So at the moment the question is NATO's unambiguous commitment to making sure that does not occur. This is not in place. This is called displacement or substitution activity, not news.
When you get 83% of the country behind something that is usually the government, the opposition, the opposition to the opposition…..
Basically everyone, apart from Piers Corbyn.
That suggests rather strongly that no conceivable Ukrainian government would be against joining NATO.
Are you telling Putin that a government of his puppets is inconceivable? With his army?
Don't stand near any high windows.
Putin has an army? Could have fooled me.
It’s those old T-55s I feel sorry for. They must have hoped to see out their days, happily sitting in museums dedicated to Soviet might, as their many younger and fitter relatives got on with the dirty business of war.
I feel for the collectors - there is going be a big gap in their collections of USSR tanks.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
Not close to the SNP, but think it's more likely they will sort themselves out than collapse. These are issues of governance, which are fixable. There's no real alternative to the SNP for a constituency that makes up about half of Scots.
These are issues of party finance, which are not fixable.
Not without anther lottery winner anyway.
And possible criminality at an institutional level. There will always be those that want to back a party, ideology or individual whatever one learns of them (there are still people that idolise Boris Johnson and Alex Salmond ffs!), but eventually the silent majority that represents common sense quietly turns away.
I would be astonished if the vast majority of decent minded Scottish people do not now start to seriously question full "independence" as a philosophy, if main party that espouses it, the SNP, is shown to be institutionally corrupt and the alternative is led my a man who was described by his QC as a "bully and sex-pest".
This is fake news, leader ratings are always reported net, not gross.
By that metric Yousaf leads.
A misleading practice that I have been railing against for some time.
Sir John Curtice disagrees with you.
Now whose judgment am I going to trust on this? You or him?
You complained that only giving the gross approval figure is misleading information because it's incomplete.
I agree.
But so is only giving the net figure. You need both to get a full picture.
A net rating of zero at 20-20 with 60% DK is not the same as a net rating of zero at 50-50 with 0% DK.
And if John Curtice disagrees with that, then with the greatest of respect, he's wrong.
A lot of “polling experts” (no idea if this applies to him) seem to have limited grasp of stats. They tend to rely on old truisms which will mostly be ok, until the data is telling you something novel.
This is not a story unless it has a clear timescale and process. At the moment it is perfectly possible that in due time Ukraine will have a 'government' which does not intend to apply to join NATO. So at the moment the question is NATO's unambiguous commitment to making sure that does not occur. This is not in place. This is called displacement or substitution activity, not news.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
The most interesting thing about this narrative is that many who were “remainers” still don’t understand that wanting Brexit was never transactional in the sense of “x will be better immediately”. Being out of europe is enough for most of us. Any change will take time as we diverge, and will be more about the EU taking choices we will never follow. The “wrong in hindsight” numbers in polling is just a proxy for government approval, this government being associated with Brexit.
Russia has their own version of “rapid unscheduled disassembly” today.
Describing a bomb that fell off an Su-34 plane and exploded in the Russian town of Belegrod, the military spokesman said that “an abnormal descent of an aircraft munition” took place.
What I find interesting about this is how quickly the Russians have come out and admitted that they did it themselves. They could've used the incident to raise tensions even further. Shows how nervous they are in my view.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
It would be someone who hates having full employment and pay rises for the working class, especially the northern working class.
No, it will be someone who recognises that they need to be sacrificed.
Someone who can tell them that of course it’s in their best interest, for minimum wage to be maximum wage, for 10 people applying for any job, and for half the job adverts to be written in Polish.
I am not sure whether the law has been changed (some of our education experts will no doubt know), but it used to be a requirement for all UK schools to have "daily worship", which normally took the form of assembly. My bog-standard comp (with emphasis on the bog) used to have assembly and we would sing some dreary dirge of a hymn, normally by John Wesley or other tub thumping evangelical zealot from the previous century.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
Simon Kuper is the archetypal citizen of nowhere and not an objective commentator on this subject.
It is amusing seeing Remain fanatics who didn't understand (nor tried to understand) Brexit then and still don't understand it now trying to project their delusions onto Brexit supporters. They will go to their graves bitter and twisted. (Though, to be reasonable, hopefully in great old age like all of us)
This is not a story unless it has a clear timescale and process. At the moment it is perfectly possible that in due time Ukraine will have a 'government' which does not intend to apply to join NATO. So at the moment the question is NATO's unambiguous commitment to making sure that does not occur. This is not in place. This is called displacement or substitution activity, not news.
When you get 83% of the country behind something that is usually the government, the opposition, the opposition to the opposition…..
Basically everyone, apart from Piers Corbyn.
That suggests rather strongly that no conceivable Ukrainian government would be against joining NATO.
Are you telling Putin that a government of his puppets is inconceivable? With his army?
Don't stand near any high windows.
Putin has an army? Could have fooled me.
It’s those old T-55s I feel sorry for. They must have hoped to see out their days, happily sitting in museums dedicated to Soviet might, as their many younger and fitter relatives got on with the dirty business of war.
I feel for the collectors - there is going be a big gap in their collections of USSR tanks.
Yes, but imagine; the market for spare parts must be immense.
@techneUK 11m NEW POLL: Labour lead down to 13 in Techne tracker
Lab 44% (-1) Con 31% (+1) LibDem 10% (nc) Reform 5% (-1) Green 5% (+1) SNP 3% (nc)
1,632 questioned on 19-20 April.
+/- 12-13 April.
Data - technetracker.co.uk
This is the poll I was talking about in the previous thread. Below the bonnet:
1. More 2019 Tories returning to the Tories 2. No Labour to Tory movement 3. Notable 2019 Labour to LibDem movemen
Could just be noise, but if not that point 3 looks significant ahead of the locals given the nature of the seats being contested.
The locals are reminding voters in the Blue Wall that the LibDems are still alive and kicking, with the usual piles of LD leaflets pouring in. It may be an indication of tactical voting potential at the GE. [Edit: Apols to Southam, who I see made the point on the last thread]
I actually think the Scottish polls are less awful for the SNP than expected. What do they have to do to fall into second place?? Presumably they have a high floor of voters who are very keen on independence and aren't interested in the Greens for one reason or another. Those voters have nowhere else to go, unless they fancy the cranky-looking Alba.
Actually did some canvassing yesterday (Misterton ward, Harborough District Council) - people pleased I had come round and a lot of "Well I'm not voting Conservative". Last time result was 432 Tory, 323 Lib Dem (me) and 70 Labour. Spent time trying to convince Labour voters to support me tactically - my "sorry I missed you" leaflet has the inevitable dodgy bar chart.
Good luck!!!
Looks like @Icarus will be flying high in Misterton this time 👍
I am not sure whether the law has been changed (some of our education experts will no doubt know), but it used to be a requirement for all UK schools to have "daily worship", which normally took the form of assembly. My bog-standard comp (with emphasis on the bog) used to have assembly and we would sing some dreary dirge of a hymn, normally by John Wesley or other tub thumping evangelical zealot from the previous century.
The difference is that it's supposed to be constitutionally prohibited in the US.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
The other one to watch (unfortunately) is Cummings. He left himself some space to wriggle- Brexit might go wrong, but only in some branches of history. If it was a punt, it was one at good odds, that has turned out a value loser.
And it's not his fault* that the politicians propelled into power by Brexit to run Brexit have been a bunch of fools, shysters and ne'er-do-wells.
(* It is, at least a bit.)
The name Cummings and the word punt in the same paragraph might present a challenge for Dr Spooner or Jim Naughtie.
Not close to the SNP, but think it's more likely they will sort themselves out than collapse. These are issues of governance, which are fixable. There's no real alternative to the SNP for a constituency that makes up about half of Scots.
These are issues of party finance, which are not fixable.
Not without anther lottery winner anyway.
And possible criminality at an institutional level. There will always be those that want to back a party, ideology or individual whatever one learns of them (there are still people that idolise Boris Johnson and Alex Salmond ffs!), but eventually the silent majority that represents common sense quietly turns away.
I would be astonished if the vast majority of decent minded Scottish people do not now start to seriously question full "independence" as a philosophy, if main party that espouses it, the SNP, is shown to be institutionally corrupt and the alternative is led my a man who was described by his QC as a "bully and sex-pest".
Just what you expect from a dumb cluck, same brain brain again and you would be dangerous loser.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
It would be someone who hates having full employment and pay rises for the working class, especially the northern working class.
It's funny, cos beyond a couple of notable exceptions, pretty much all the northern working class people I talk to - ie pretty much everyone I talk to everyday - are really concerned about the price of everything rising and their wages not keeping up.
"LONDON — Ambassadors from all 27 EU countries will gather at a secret location in England later this month for private talks about the post-Brexit relationship."
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
The most interesting thing about this narrative is that many who were “remainers” still don’t understand that wanting Brexit was never transactional in the sense of “x will be better immediately”. Being out of europe is enough for most of us. Any change will take time as we diverge, and will be more about the EU taking choices we will never follow. The “wrong in hindsight” numbers in polling is just a proxy for government approval, this government being associated with Brexit.
You could as well say the actual referendum vote was just a proxy for government approval.
But if a government not associated with Brexit comes to power how will the "wrong in hindsight" numbers change?
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
It would be someone who hates having full employment and pay rises for the working class, especially the northern working class.
No, it will be someone who recognises that they need to be sacrificed.
Someone who can tell them that of course it’s in their best interest, for minimum wage to be maximum wage, for 10 people applying for any job, and for half the job adverts to be written in Polish.
Just as well they can’t vote. Oh…
It's also conditions. I find it quite hilarious to hear the comments from middle class employers discovering that their employees are demanding to be treated better than cattle.
It reminds me of a building project I was involved with, way back. The arrogant arsehole treated the workforce like shit. Then they (the Polish blokes) discovered the guy was Tankie.....
"LONDON — Ambassadors from all 27 EU countries will gather at a secret location in England later this month for private talks about the post-Brexit relationship."
Not close to the SNP, but think it's more likely they will sort themselves out than collapse. These are issues of governance, which are fixable. There's no real alternative to the SNP for a constituency that makes up about half of Scots.
These are issues of party finance, which are not fixable.
Not without anther lottery winner anyway.
And possible criminality at an institutional level. There will always be those that want to back a party, ideology or individual whatever one learns of them (there are still people that idolise Boris Johnson and Alex Salmond ffs!), but eventually the silent majority that represents common sense quietly turns away.
I would be astonished if the vast majority of decent minded Scottish people do not now start to seriously question full "independence" as a philosophy, if main party that espouses it, the SNP, is shown to be institutionally corrupt and the alternative is led my a man who was described by his QC as a "bully and sex-pest".
Just what you expect from a dumb cluck, same brain brain again and you would be dangerous loser.
Lol. Baldrick has entered the room with his playground insults.
How long did it take you to construct your anger filled rant Mr. Thicky, only for it still to be completely unintelligible?
Go back to the University of Life and ask for a refund on your pass degree, or alternatively get yourself a brain brain (sic) implant. The other option is to carry on crying into your jackboots about the inability of your much beloved Fuhrer to persuade the Scottish master race of their need for lebensraum.
I am not sure whether the law has been changed (some of our education experts will no doubt know), but it used to be a requirement for all UK schools to have "daily worship", which normally took the form of assembly. My bog-standard comp (with emphasis on the bog) used to have assembly and we would sing some dreary dirge of a hymn, normally by John Wesley or other tub thumping evangelical zealot from the previous century.
The difference is that it's supposed to be constitutionally prohibited in the US.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
Not close to the SNP, but think it's more likely they will sort themselves out than collapse. These are issues of governance, which are fixable. There's no real alternative to the SNP for a constituency that makes up about half of Scots.
These are issues of party finance, which are not fixable.
Not without anther lottery winner anyway.
And possible criminality at an institutional level. There will always be those that want to back a party, ideology or individual whatever one learns of them (there are still people that idolise Boris Johnson and Alex Salmond ffs!), but eventually the silent majority that represents common sense quietly turns away.
I would be astonished if the vast majority of decent minded Scottish people do not now start to seriously question full "independence" as a philosophy, if main party that espouses it, the SNP, is shown to be institutionally corrupt and the alternative is led my a man who was described by his QC as a "bully and sex-pest".
Just what you expect from a dumb cluck, same brain brain again and you would be dangerous loser.
Lol. Baldrick has entered the room with his playground insults.
How long did it take you to construct your anger filled rant Mr. Thicky, only for it still to be completely unintelligible?
Go back to the University of Life and ask for a refund on your pass degree, or alternatively get yourself a brain brain (sic) implant. The other option is to carry on crying into your jackboots about the inability of your much beloved Fuhrer to persuade the Scottish master race of their need for lebensraum.
Could you two just get a luxury camper van and do a holiday together?
This is not a story unless it has a clear timescale and process. At the moment it is perfectly possible that in due time Ukraine will have a 'government' which does not intend to apply to join NATO. So at the moment the question is NATO's unambiguous commitment to making sure that does not occur. This is not in place. This is called displacement or substitution activity, not news.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
The problem is, Brexit hasn't failed. Yes, the wild unicorn promises have all been debunked, Project Fear has become reality and the country is much poorer and less attractive to investors. We, 'normal' people, will suffer the negative financial effects for years.
But for the very rich people who really wanted Brexit, the real global elite citizens of nowhere, who bankrolled the campaigns of lies, who fund the think tanks and client journalists, it is a success. We have been levered out of the EU - an organisation which, despite its faults, seems to actually care about its people and their wellbeing, to continue on our course of Little America, with poor public services, money being shovelled to the rich and client pensioner voters, and a mass of indifferently educated, insular drones who are continually told they are well off and live in the greatest country in the world whilst they get ever poorer.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
The most interesting thing about this narrative is that many who were “remainers” still don’t understand that wanting Brexit was never transactional in the sense of “x will be better immediately”. Being out of europe is enough for most of us. Any change will take time as we diverge, and will be more about the EU taking choices we will never follow. The “wrong in hindsight” numbers in polling is just a proxy for government approval, this government being associated with Brexit.
You're right, I strongly recall the Vote Leave campaign arguing that Brexit would make people poorer but it was worth it.
Not close to the SNP, but think it's more likely they will sort themselves out than collapse. These are issues of governance, which are fixable. There's no real alternative to the SNP for a constituency that makes up about half of Scots.
These are issues of party finance, which are not fixable.
Not without anther lottery winner anyway.
And possible criminality at an institutional level. There will always be those that want to back a party, ideology or individual whatever one learns of them (there are still people that idolise Boris Johnson and Alex Salmond ffs!), but eventually the silent majority that represents common sense quietly turns away.
I would be astonished if the vast majority of decent minded Scottish people do not now start to seriously question full "independence" as a philosophy, if main party that espouses it, the SNP, is shown to be institutionally corrupt and the alternative is led my a man who was described by his QC as a "bully and sex-pest".
Just what you expect from a dumb cluck, same brain brain again and you would be dangerous loser.
Lol. Baldrick has entered the room with his playground insults.
How long did it take you to construct your anger filled rant Mr. Thicky, only for it still to be completely unintelligible?
Go back to the University of Life and ask for a refund on your pass degree, or alternatively get yourself a brain brain (sic) implant. The other option is to carry on crying into your jackboots about the inability of your much beloved Fuhrer to persuade the Scottish master race of their need for lebensraum.
Could you two just get a luxury camper van and do a holiday together?
Sorry, I don't do caravans or such like, though Baldrick probably does. It could be quite amusing though, I have to admit.
For the record, I only ever respond to his rudeness in kind because many on here seem afraid to do so. He is a small brained anger filled bully, and I have always strongly disliked bullies.
This is not a story unless it has a clear timescale and process. At the moment it is perfectly possible that in due time Ukraine will have a 'government' which does not intend to apply to join NATO. So at the moment the question is NATO's unambiguous commitment to making sure that does not occur. This is not in place. This is called displacement or substitution activity, not news.
@KuperSimon Even many senior Brexiteers now understand, quietly, that Brexit failed. Lots of them will probably exit government next year and never return. One day Brexit will be the first line in their obits. So how do the guilty men and women live with that? Me @FT
I reckon Gove, who unlike most Brexiteers isn't stupid, may be the first major Vote Leave figure to recant.
The most interesting thing about this narrative is that many who were “remainers” still don’t understand that wanting Brexit was never transactional in the sense of “x will be better immediately”. Being out of europe is enough for most of us. Any change will take time as we diverge, and will be more about the EU taking choices we will never follow. The “wrong in hindsight” numbers in polling is just a proxy for government approval, this government being associated with Brexit.
From talking to a lot of people on doorsteps, and from the reams of reporting and polling since, I don't think there were many of you who were doing this on principle and didn't want anything more than that.
At least three easy to identify leave voter types: 1 Singapore-on-Thames. Leave, deregulate, sell off. Make more £profit from a workforce now leaner and more hungry (literally) 2 Mercantilists. Leave, remove trading barriers like CAP/CFP, make more £profit with an easier life 3 People's Republic of Britain. Leave, get rid of foreign workers taking our jobs and our benefits and clogging up schools and hospitals. Get paid more.
None of them are happy because the moon on a stick they were promised has not been delivered. 1 and 2 because there is now more red tape and barriers than ever, 3 because despite a brief wage flurry they feel poorer than ever.
To be honest after both your Chief Exec and your Treasurer have resigned and been interviewed under arrest l can’t help help feeling that the SNP would take this result in a heartbeat.
The nationalist vote is, in large part, sticking with them through thick, thin and bloody disastrous. It will do that for as long as there is not a viable alternative and Alba is not that alternative. Others may become available but not yet.
This is not a story unless it has a clear timescale and process. At the moment it is perfectly possible that in due time Ukraine will have a 'government' which does not intend to apply to join NATO. So at the moment the question is NATO's unambiguous commitment to making sure that does not occur. This is not in place. This is called displacement or substitution activity, not news.
No way to take unbiased view on Raab’s letter until we see the report (through Kang will take a biased view). Either way that’s a “resign now and you’ll be back in 6 months in the reshuffle” letter.
The 1st Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Whilst the 14th amendment states that all constitutional laws applying to the Federal Government also apply to the State legislatures.
This was upheld by Supreme Court decisions in 1947, 1962 (explicitly banning school prayers), 1968 (preventing the compulsory teaching of religious beliefs) and numerous other occasions resulting in the establishment of the 'Lemon' Test.
Not close to the SNP, but think it's more likely they will sort themselves out than collapse. These are issues of governance, which are fixable. There's no real alternative to the SNP for a constituency that makes up about half of Scots.
These are issues of party finance, which are not fixable.
Not without anther lottery winner anyway.
And possible criminality at an institutional level. There will always be those that want to back a party, ideology or individual whatever one learns of them (there are still people that idolise Boris Johnson and Alex Salmond ffs!), but eventually the silent majority that represents common sense quietly turns away.
I would be astonished if the vast majority of decent minded Scottish people do not now start to seriously question full "independence" as a philosophy, if main party that espouses it, the SNP, is shown to be institutionally corrupt and the alternative is led my a man who was described by his QC as a "bully and sex-pest".
Just what you expect from a dumb cluck, same brain brain again and you would be dangerous loser.
Lol. Baldrick has entered the room with his playground insults.
How long did it take you to construct your anger filled rant Mr. Thicky, only for it still to be completely unintelligible?
Go back to the University of Life and ask for a refund on your pass degree, or alternatively get yourself a brain brain (sic) implant. The other option is to carry on crying into your jackboots about the inability of your much beloved Fuhrer to persuade the Scottish master race of their need for lebensraum.
Could you two just get a luxury camper van and do a holiday together?
Sorry, I don't do caravans or such like, though Baldrick probably does. It could be quite amusing though, I have to admit.
For the record, I only ever respond to his rudeness in kind because many on here seem afraid to do so. He is a small brained anger filled bully, and I have always strongly disliked bullies.
Hence why I am happy Raab has resigned.
I doubt people are afraid. It just gets quickly boring. You both need to come up with more original insults.
This is not a story unless it has a clear timescale and process. At the moment it is perfectly possible that in due time Ukraine will have a 'government' which does not intend to apply to join NATO. So at the moment the question is NATO's unambiguous commitment to making sure that does not occur. This is not in place. This is called displacement or substitution activity, not news.
The 1st Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Whilst the 14th amendment states that all constitutional laws applying to the Federal Government also apply to the State legislatures.
This was upheld by Supreme Court decisions in 1947, 1962 (explicitly banning school prayers), 1968 (preventing the compulsory teaching of religious beliefs) and numerous other occasions resulting in the establishment of the 'Lemon' Test.
It is but this a SCOTUS with GOP hacks in the majority.
Yes, I've been talking about this for a while. Local press are in bed with Houchen and not pushing him at all. But Private Eye has done enough FOI requests to uncover almost unbelievable facts: £450m of public money spent decontaminating the land (STDC) Developers hand-picked by Houchen given 90% of new Development company for £0 a share (Teesworks Ltd) Teesworks Ltd buys decontaminated land for £1 an acre, with right to buy more for the same. Teesworks thus takes all the rent from the new tenants- c. £140m Teesworks awards ground works contracts to companies newly set-up by their sons.
We spend all the money. We hand the thing over to the right people for nothing. They make all the money for £0 investment or risk. We have no scrutiny or say.
This sounds like the murky business of regeneration in areas of low land value. It is how the land is cleaned up and the economic development facilitated whilst de-risking it for the public sector. There will be great risks and potentially great rewards for the developer. There are always these associated political fireworks.
I think the point is there are great rewards and no risk for associates of Houchen. The risks are mostly held by the taxpayer, as decided by Houchen's party.
Just assessing through the vague facts as outlined above, they would presumably incur significant costs in building whatever it is they are expecting to get rent out of. This is still not going to be easy. Lots of commercial development is unviable outside of certain specific high demand locations. I would guess that building anything involves some form of de-facto subsidy.
Is this in any way comparable to houses being sold for £1 with an expectation that the purchasers renovate at their own cost?
Based on the details in the Private Eye, no, it isn't in anyway comparable. The property is being sold for pennies with the sellers, ie.the taxpayer, taking on the cost of renovation.
Yes, I've been talking about this for a while. Local press are in bed with Houchen and not pushing him at all. But Private Eye has done enough FOI requests to uncover almost unbelievable facts: £450m of public money spent decontaminating the land (STDC) Developers hand-picked by Houchen given 90% of new Development company for £0 a share (Teesworks Ltd) Teesworks Ltd buys decontaminated land for £1 an acre, with right to buy more for the same. Teesworks thus takes all the rent from the new tenants- c. £140m Teesworks awards ground works contracts to companies newly set-up by their sons.
We spend all the money. We hand the thing over to the right people for nothing. They make all the money for £0 investment or risk. We have no scrutiny or say.
This sounds like the murky business of regeneration in areas of low land value. It is how the land is cleaned up and the economic development facilitated whilst de-risking it for the public sector. There will be great risks and potentially great rewards for the developer. There are always these associated political fireworks.
I think the point is there are great rewards and no risk for associates of Houchen. The risks are mostly held by the taxpayer, as decided by Houchen's party.
Just assessing through the vague facts as outlined above, they would presumably incur significant costs in building whatever it is they are expecting to get rent out of. This is still not going to be easy. Lots of commercial development is unviable outside of certain specific high demand locations. I would guess that building anything involves some form of de-facto subsidy.
Another government body, the Teesside Development Corporation, take on the development risks, not the 90% owners of the land, Houchen's friends.
The Private Eye assertions are anything but vague. t
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This is not exactly new knowledge - but I didn't know about the separate event which filled the eastern Med.
The Mediterranean Sea was dry 5M years ago
Then, a series of MEGAFLOODS filled it in a matter of months
How did the Med dry up?
Why did it fill so brutally?
How would it have felt to be there?
https://twitter.com/tomaspueyo/status/1649108425245065219
A minister, whom he summoned to see him, was horrified to be told that the Prime Minister wanted his resignation, and asked why. “Not up to it,” said Attlee, and that was that.
Don't stand near any high windows.
It looks indefensible to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbq3kc29Tmg&ab_channel=mrtetley99
And it's his party he has to justify it to. Sacking one of your few real loyalists from a senior position is potentially a problem in an administration of toxic nutters and the useless.
The resulting reshuffle presents risks.
Seems unlikely.
But it must have been an utterly incomprehensible event.
It’s those old T-55s I feel sorry for. They must have hoped to see out their days, happily sitting in museums dedicated to Soviet might, as their many younger and fitter relatives got on with the dirty business of war.
But I shall confine myself to a 'No.'
I appreciate it’s a small island that’s easier to control but a good start.
It’s clear that if the EU and UK side want to do things to everyone’s benefit they can by negotiations rather than flinging shit at each other.
One, Do you want Brexit/Independence (existential question)
Two, If yes, how do you want your country run (political question)
Politicians have failed to distinguish these enough. Take the SNP. Those who support Independence will have all sorts of other views; right, left, centre, everything else. Most people are centrists. The clue is in the word.
But the SNP is associated with a fairly narrow political spectrum. So narrow they failed to elect the best candidate for leader just recently (a bit of luck for Kate).
Most Brexiteers are centrists too - there aren't 17 million extremists around, but it has got commandeered by factionalism.
And it's not his fault* that the politicians propelled into power by Brexit to run Brexit have been a bunch of fools, shysters and ne'er-do-wells.
(* It is, at least a bit.)
Today the Texas Senate passed a bill to force every public school classroom in the state to prominently display a copy of the Ten Commandments.
They also passed a bill to set prayer and bible reading times during the school day.
https://twitter.com/SawyerHackett/status/1649231594719248392
I would be astonished if the vast majority of decent minded Scottish people do not now start to seriously question full "independence" as a philosophy, if main party that espouses it, the SNP, is shown to be institutionally corrupt and the alternative is led my a man who was described by his QC as a "bully and sex-pest".
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Just as well they can’t vote. Oh…
Labour Minority at 5/1 is interesting.
Granted he didn't want to be sacked but that would at least have given him some integrity. Now it looks like he was merely hoping not to be found out.
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-ambassadors-to-uk-to-discuss-post-brexit-relation-on-away-day-delegation-member-states-uk-think-tanks/
Preparations for the first 5 year review of the TCA beginning?
But if a government not associated with Brexit comes to power how will the "wrong in hindsight" numbers change?
It reminds me of a building project I was involved with, way back. The arrogant arsehole treated the workforce like shit. Then they (the Polish blokes) discovered the guy was Tankie.....
I wonder how it feels to be even more dishonourable than Dominic Raab?
How long did it take you to construct your anger filled rant Mr. Thicky, only for it still to be completely unintelligible?
Go back to the University of Life and ask for a refund on your pass degree, or alternatively get yourself a brain brain (sic) implant. The other option is to carry on crying into your jackboots about the inability of your much beloved Fuhrer to persuade the Scottish master race of their need for lebensraum.
https://twitter.com/dominicraab/status/1649334236216713219?s=46
'Why are people in power such bullying pricks?' would be a more interesting psychological study.
'Sir, I cannot conceive of you.'
'Sir, this young one's mother could.'
This Government has got to go.
For quite a lot of Games.
But for the very rich people who really wanted Brexit, the real global elite citizens of nowhere, who bankrolled the campaigns of lies, who fund the think tanks and client journalists, it is a success. We have been levered out of the EU - an organisation which, despite its faults, seems to actually care about its people and their wellbeing, to continue on our course of Little America, with poor public services, money being shovelled to the rich and client pensioner voters, and a mass of indifferently educated, insular drones who are continually told they are well off and live in the greatest country in the world whilst they get ever poorer.
In those terms Brexit is a resounding success.
For the record, I only ever respond to his rudeness in kind because many on here seem afraid to do so. He is a small brained anger filled bully, and I have always strongly disliked bullies.
Hence why I am happy Raab has resigned.
At least three easy to identify leave voter types:
1 Singapore-on-Thames. Leave, deregulate, sell off. Make more £profit from a workforce now leaner and more hungry (literally)
2 Mercantilists. Leave, remove trading barriers like CAP/CFP, make more £profit with an easier life
3 People's Republic of Britain. Leave, get rid of foreign workers taking our jobs and our benefits and clogging up schools and hospitals. Get paid more.
None of them are happy because the moon on a stick they were promised has not been delivered. 1 and 2 because there is now more red tape and barriers than ever, 3 because despite a brief wage flurry they feel poorer than ever.
The nationalist vote is, in large part, sticking with them through thick, thin and bloody disastrous. It will do that for as long as there is not a viable alternative and Alba is not that alternative. Others may become available but not yet.
The 1st Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Whilst the 14th amendment states that all constitutional laws applying to the Federal Government also apply to the State legislatures.
This was upheld by Supreme Court decisions in 1947, 1962 (explicitly banning school prayers), 1968 (preventing the compulsory teaching of religious beliefs) and numerous other occasions resulting in the establishment of the 'Lemon' Test.
Its people being the corrupt politicians and self serving bureaucrats that are in charge of it.
The Private Eye assertions are anything but vague. t