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Raab’s future hangs in the balance – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,164
edited April 2023 in General
imageRaab’s future hangs in the balance – politicalbetting.com

Very wisely I would suggest the PM has decided to mull things over until tomorrow about what to do following the report into allegations of bullying by his deputy.

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  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,765
    The number of firsts I've gotten from my wise words being on a forgotten thread is alarming. First!
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,042
    edited April 2023
    I know this rarely stops people (including myself) commenting, but it's impossible even to guess what Sunak will do without knowing what's in the report.

    Even then, it's difficult enough as Sunak doesn't really have a track record on these matters.

    So, wait and see.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749
    Even now, Rishi Sunak is asking ChatGPT what he should do ...
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,092
    FPT @TheScreamingEagles

    God damnit.

    I took tomorrow as annual leave so I could watch the final ever episode of Picard early.

    Except tomorrow is Eid and mother insists I go to the mosque tomorrow and she’s going to throw a party for her friends tomorrow as well.

    Please let there be a bank run in the next 12 hours.

    Would you like me to spoil it for you? The entire episode is online in clip and review form. All of it. ALL. OF. IT.

    (mwah-hah-hah-hah... :D )
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,765
    It seems likely that the smoke is worse than the fire here. I'd guess that Raab has been an arse at times, but no more. It must be very difficult to deal with a civil service that can imagine 5 weeks on strike is a good idea.

    But who knows - the report may say Raab is a bad man.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,444
    Fishing said:

    I know this rarely stops people (including myself) commenting, but it's impossible even to guess what Sunak will do without knowing what's in the report.

    Even then, it's difficult enough as Sunak doesn't really have a track record on these matters.

    So, wait and see.

    There will have to be something a little juicier (hehe) than the tomato-tossing story in there to warrant the sack.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,223
    Omnium said:

    It seems likely that the smoke is worse than the fire here. I'd guess that Raab has been an arse at times, but no more. It must be very difficult to deal with a civil service that can imagine 5 weeks on strike is a good idea.

    But who knows - the report may say Raab is a bad man.

    It probably will say that, but it can't say he is sackably bad, because that's not how ministerial careers end.

    Raab, like the others, is there because the PM wants him. No more, no less.

    If Rishi is hoping for a report or process to advise him what to do, I fear he will be disappointed, and he may be in the wrong job
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,843
    Westie said:

    1992 election:

    image

    IT'S THE SUNIL WOT WON IT!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,843
    Chris said:

    Even now, Rishi Sunak is asking ChatGPT what he should do ...

    Lies, damned lies... and ChatGPT!
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,310
    The reality is that oppositions (and media) are always demanding ministers be sacked. Is it strong/weak to refuse, or strong/weak to go ahead and fire. The answer depends on which side you already support.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,843

    Whatever. Cooking delicious freshly caught Black Bream (off Sandown Bay) for the family tonight with a Rick Stein recipe.

    Fish laid on a bed of parboiled sliced potatoes with anchovies, peppers, tomatoes, garlic and oregano with chicken stock and saffron.

    Can't wait.




    You've got no sole?
  • If it the report had cleared Raab then it would have already been published.

    Like Boris Johnson, I suspect Sunak prefers to have a bully in his cabinet despite an official report.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,444

    Whatever. Cooking delicious freshly caught Black Bream (off Sandown Bay) for the family tonight with a Rick Stein recipe.

    Fish laid on a bed of parboiled sliced potatoes with anchovies, peppers, tomatoes, garlic and oregano with chicken stock and saffron.

    Can't wait.




    You've got no sole?
    Come on Sunil, there's a time and a plaice.
  • SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 694

    Whatever. Cooking delicious freshly caught Black Bream (off Sandown Bay) for the family tonight with a Rick Stein recipe.

    Fish laid on a bed of parboiled sliced potatoes with anchovies, peppers, tomatoes, garlic and oregano with chicken stock and saffron.

    Can't wait.




    You've got no sole?
    Not sure about chicken stock. Why not fish stock?
  • Rishi Sunak was agonising last night over whether to sack Dominic Raab after deciding that he needed more time to review allegations that he bullied officials.

    The prime minister was sent a “very lengthy” report by Adam Tolley KC early yesterday morning but by the evening was still undecided over whether to keep Raab in his cabinet.

    Raab, the deputy prime minister and justice secretary, was also sent a copy of the report and is said to be “confident” he will be exonerated. He believes the report does not show that he breached the ministerial code and will not be offering his resignation, although he has not yet spoken to the prime minister.

    Officials who have seen the report, however, believe that it is “terrible” and think Raab should be sacked. There are also concerns that keeping him in post will be damaging for relations with the civil service.

    Retaining Raab would mean he continues working with officials he knows have made formal complaints about him. It would also be particularly difficult for Antonia Romeo, permanent secretary at the Ministry of Justice, who is understood to have twice warned him about his behaviour after officials made complaints.

    Senior civil servants have prepared briefing packs for new government ministers in the event that Raab is sacked today and there is a reshuffle.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dominic-raab-news-latest-bullying-rishi-sunak-investigation-w377wcnns
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,657

    If it the report had cleared Raab then it would have already been published.

    Like Boris Johnson, I suspect Sunak prefers to have a bully in his cabinet despite an official report.

    He's waiting for Police Scotland to provide a good day to bury bad news.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339

    Whatever. Cooking delicious freshly caught Black Bream (off Sandown Bay) for the family tonight with a Rick Stein recipe.

    Fish laid on a bed of parboiled sliced potatoes with anchovies, peppers, tomatoes, garlic and oregano with chicken stock and saffron.

    Can't wait.




    Good man

    I’m in the Lufthansa lounge at LHR T2, which is weirdly representative of Germany. Quiet, efficient, dull, prosperous looking without being opulent, unexciting, nice-ish wine, awful food
  • SandraMc said:

    Whatever. Cooking delicious freshly caught Black Bream (off Sandown Bay) for the family tonight with a Rick Stein recipe.

    Fish laid on a bed of parboiled sliced potatoes with anchovies, peppers, tomatoes, garlic and oregano with chicken stock and saffron.

    Can't wait.




    You've got no sole?
    Not sure about chicken stock. Why not fish stock?
    The anchovies give plenty of fish flavour. The chicken stock works well with it
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,465
    SandraMc said:

    Whatever. Cooking delicious freshly caught Black Bream (off Sandown Bay) for the family tonight with a Rick Stein recipe.

    Fish laid on a bed of parboiled sliced potatoes with anchovies, peppers, tomatoes, garlic and oregano with chicken stock and saffron.

    Can't wait.




    You've got no sole?
    Not sure about chicken stock. Why not fish stock?
    I don't question the Stein; I just follow him.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,765

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    Almost an A-star as a GCSE answer though.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,383
    edited April 2023
    Here's Sunak's radical alternative statement:

    It is clear that there is not enough evidence to uphold the accusation that Dominic Raab is a bully, and therefore I am taking no further action on this matter.

    However, I have decided to sack Raab anyway because he is a complete disaster as Secretary of State for Justice.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239
    edited April 2023
    Honestly dude, just quit while you're ahead.


  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339
    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,657

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    What happens if you prompt it with fake information about events that happened between September 2001 and now? For example: "Why did Emmanuel Macron decide to invade Italy in June 2022 and how will the war end?"
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,843

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    Like I said before, there are lies, damned lies... and ChatGPT!
  • Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
  • Whatever. Cooking delicious freshly caught Black Bream (off Sandown Bay) for the family tonight with a Rick Stein recipe.

    Fish laid on a bed of parboiled sliced potatoes with anchovies, peppers, tomatoes, garlic and oregano with chicken stock and saffron.

    Can't wait.




    Hungry now but I'm not sure about fish and chicken stock, let me know how it turns out.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,843
    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    People who wear masks care about their own health AND the health of OTHERS.

    People who don't, er, don't.

    Endex.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339

    Whatever. Cooking delicious freshly caught Black Bream (off Sandown Bay) for the family tonight with a Rick Stein recipe.

    Fish laid on a bed of parboiled sliced potatoes with anchovies, peppers, tomatoes, garlic and oregano with chicken stock and saffron.

    Can't wait.




    If you’re using stock chuck one sachet of this in

    Honest advice. Transforms every meal


  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,444

    Honestly dude, just quit while you're ahead.


    I feel a bit sorry for Chatgpt.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,586

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    So, still not moving on from the “spout facts incorrectly but with an air of authority” stage.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,765

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    Like I said before, there are lies, damned lies... and ChatGPT!
    The chatgpt problem is of course our problem - chatgpt itself is meaningless. Quite how are we so easily fooled?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,161

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    What happens if you prompt it with fake information about events that happened between September 2001 and now? For example: "Why did Emmanuel Macron decide to invade Italy in June 2022 and how will the war end?"
    It will tell you it has no knowledge of events after September 2021.

    But, yes, if you are patient, then ChatGPT can be fooled in long conversations by "slipping in" that France invaded Italy, etc.

    And it will try and maintain internal consistency.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,528

    The reality is that oppositions (and media) are always demanding ministers be sacked. Is it strong/weak to refuse, or strong/weak to go ahead and fire. The answer depends on which side you already support.

    Better for Labour if Sunak keeps him, I think - "weak PM, bullying deputy PM" is a strong narrative.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339
    Omnium said:

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    Like I said before, there are lies, damned lies... and ChatGPT!
    The chatgpt problem is of course our problem - chatgpt itself is meaningless. Quite how are we so easily fooled?
    ChatGPT is used by 100-200 million people every day. Saying it is “meaningless” is like saying the first iPhone was pointless because it’s battery life was short
  • DialupDialup Posts: 561

    Whatever. Cooking delicious freshly caught Black Bream (off Sandown Bay) for the family tonight with a Rick Stein recipe.

    Fish laid on a bed of parboiled sliced potatoes with anchovies, peppers, tomatoes, garlic and oregano with chicken stock and saffron.

    Can't wait.




    Looks delicious, any chance of posting the recipe
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,161

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    Weirdly, it gave the same answer about Macron:


  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,161
    rcs1000 said:

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    Weirdly, it gave the same answer about Macron:


    Indeed... ChatGPT seems to think the same of Joe Biden too:


  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239
    rcs1000 said:

    Indeed... ChatGPT seems to think the same of Joe Biden too:

    It reminds me of the line in Catch 22 when Yossarian shouts "I see everything twice!".

    The nurse holds up a finger. "How many fingers do you see?" "Two!"

    The nurse holds up two fingers. "How many now?" "Two!"

    The nurse holds up five fingers. "How many?" "Two!"

    "Gee, he's right. He does see everything twice."
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
    Covid has been every bit as divisive as Brexit, just that the split is closer 30:70, with the 30 I think never going to accept that the pandemic is over and covid has joined the roster of endemic viruses. Twitter still boils with true believers, demanding masks for all in all healthcare settings, and displaying their virtue all the time.
    There are many immune compromised people who have genuine reasons to try their damnedest to avoid infection. I don’t know if they used to use masks before covid or not though. I suspect masks are functioning as much psychologically as physiologically for many.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,843
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
    People who wear masks care about their own health AND the health of OTHERS.

    People who don't, er, don't.

    Endex.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,055
    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Cough. You have to cough. Then help yourself to something you can see they are eying up.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,310

    The reality is that oppositions (and media) are always demanding ministers be sacked. Is it strong/weak to refuse, or strong/weak to go ahead and fire. The answer depends on which side you already support.

    Better for Labour if Sunak keeps him, I think - "weak PM, bullying deputy PM" is a strong narrative.
    I tend to agree. I think he should be dispatched, but that view should be taken in the context that I have always disliked him.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    What are the odds, that Sunak will say that anti-bullying accusations/agitations are yet more examples of Woke Gone Wild?

    Thus getting to retain his Deputy Dog Raab(id) AND highlighting, publicizing, validating the Tory's War of Woke message.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,310
    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Cough. You have to cough. Then help yourself to something you can see they are eying up.
    I think they put the masks on when they spotted Leon to cover up up their youthful good looks because they were concerned someone like him might make a pass at them. I am sure I would do the same.
  • What are the odds, that Sunak will say that anti-bullying accusations/agitations are yet more examples of Woke Gone Wild?

    Thus getting to retain his Deputy Dog Raab(id) AND highlighting, publicizing, validating the Tory's War of Woke message.

    David Davis has already gone down that route.

    Raab has denied all allegations of bullying and said he behaved “professionally at all times”, although he has also said he will resign if Tolley upholds the complaints. Friends say he is demanding and a hard taskmaster, but not a bully.

    David Davis, who employed Raab as his chief of staff when he was shadow home secretary, has suggested his approach would naturally clash with the civil service’s increasingly “millennial” mindset.

    “He takes his job very seriously, he works incredibly hard, he expects the same of others and he has a fairly no-nonsense style,” Davis said. “That’s liable to run slap-bang into a lot of millennial problems — lower expectations of work.

    Whitehall these days falls down on the job all the time . . . It was made worse by Covid and work-from-home culture, and I can just imagine how Dominic would have run straight into that — and wouldn’t have given it any leeway at all.”


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dominic-raab-bullying-allegations-tolley-report-2023-vj3mvfbg6
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,872

    What are the odds, that Sunak will say that anti-bullying accusations/agitations are yet more examples of Woke Gone Wild?

    Thus getting to retain his Deputy Dog Raab(id) AND highlighting, publicizing, validating the Tory's War of Woke message.

    May I suggest a different term to woke....read this earlier and yes a small portion from the article...

    "Moral entrepreneurs are people who take the lead in developing and labeling a particular behavior or belief and spreading the label through the society at large. These individuals also lead in the construction of what they refer to as a criminally deviant or socially unacceptable behavior. These individuals also are those who organize at the grassroots level, like Mrs. Lovejoy, to establish and enforce a set of rules against behavior that these individuals define as criminally deviant or socially unacceptable."

    Covers both the right wing idiots who spout gibberish such as Harry Potter leads to satanism or video games encourage violent behaviour or abortion is a sin in all cases as much as the more traditional targets of the Woke tags on the left
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
    People who wear masks care about their own health AND the health of OTHERS.

    People who don't, er, don't.

    Endex.
    Well they’ve just taken their masks off and are now sitting there normally, so if they were protecting the HEALTH of OTHERS they’ve just decided they don’t give a fuck about OTHERS any more

    I stand by my conclusion that they are nervous twats, terrified by three years of weirdness into truly abnormal behaviour
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
    People who wear masks care about their own health AND the health of OTHERS.

    People who don't, er, don't.

    Endex.
    Well they’ve just taken their masks off and are now sitting there normally, so if they were protecting the HEALTH of OTHERS they’ve just decided they don’t give a fuck about OTHERS any more

    I stand by my conclusion that they are nervous twats, terrified by three years of weirdness into truly abnormal behaviour
    Either that or they are reading PB and have clocked you…
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,161
    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Cough. You have to cough. Then help yourself to something you can see they are eying up.
    Maybe have a loud phone conversation about how "traveling with COVID is no fun at all"
  • Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
    If you think you can tell whether people have COVID by looking at them, no need to suspect in your case!
  • Harry Maguire, LOL.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339
    I am actually tempted to walk past them and have a fake coughing fit
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,586
    Leon said:

    I am actually tempted to walk past them and have a fake coughing fit

    And risk the Captain pulling you off the flight?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339
    On the other hand there is a woman here of about 40 who is dressed like an ageing high class hooker in a brothel. Black pleated mini skirt. Obviously seamed stockings. A top which is like a lacy negligee. Big boobs falling out. Leather bootees

    Wtf? Lots of zips and Liz truss jewellery

    My guess? An editor for a racy German publishing company heading home after the london book fair. Couldn’t be bothered to change

    Or an actual hooker
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,872
    Leon said:

    I am actually tempted to walk past them and have a fake coughing fit

    Again a small ziploc bag of icing sugar slipped into their luggage and a tipoff to customs agent gets them an intimate exam
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339

    Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087

    I have a weird sense that Twitter will survive and today is not “the day it died”. I know. I’m bonkers. But there it is
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,528
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
    People who wear masks care about their own health AND the health of OTHERS.

    People who don't, er, don't.

    Endex.
    Well they’ve just taken their masks off and are now sitting there normally, so if they were protecting the HEALTH of OTHERS they’ve just decided they don’t give a fuck about OTHERS any more

    I stand by my conclusion that they are nervous twats, terrified by three years of weirdness into truly abnormal behaviour
    Are there other types of clothing that wind you up that badly? Headscarves? Gloves? Why don't you let them wear what they want, so long as they're not telling you what you should wear?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,465

    Whatever. Cooking delicious freshly caught Black Bream (off Sandown Bay) for the family tonight with a Rick Stein recipe.

    Fish laid on a bed of parboiled sliced potatoes with anchovies, peppers, tomatoes, garlic and oregano with chicken stock and saffron.

    Can't wait.




    Hungry now but I'm not sure about fish and chicken stock, let me know how it turns out.
    It was delicious.

    Family polished off the lot, and even my four-year old daughter asked for seconds.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,502

    Honestly dude, just quit while you're ahead.


    I have been wrong all along. AI is sentient and conscious but a bit dim and gets muddled after a long and liquid lunch.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,827

    The reality is that oppositions (and media) are always demanding ministers be sacked. Is it strong/weak to refuse, or strong/weak to go ahead and fire. The answer depends on which side you already support.

    Better for Labour if Sunak keeps him, I think - "weak PM, bullying deputy PM" is a strong narrative.
    And Raab is incompetent anyway, although who knows who the replacement would be, if any.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,872

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
    People who wear masks care about their own health AND the health of OTHERS.

    People who don't, er, don't.

    Endex.
    Well they’ve just taken their masks off and are now sitting there normally, so if they were protecting the HEALTH of OTHERS they’ve just decided they don’t give a fuck about OTHERS any more

    I stand by my conclusion that they are nervous twats, terrified by three years of weirdness into truly abnormal behaviour
    Are there other types of clothing that wind you up that badly? Headscarves? Gloves? Why don't you let them wear what they want, so long as they're not telling you what you should wear?
    I am pretty sure there are people looking at leon and thinking look at him with his I am 20 going on 50 look
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,586
    Leon said:

    Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087

    I have a weird sense that Twitter will survive and today is not “the day it died”. I know. I’m bonkers. But there it is
    It won’t survive if people who live on Twitter won’t pay for the service. Hence the new blue tick regime. If you are, or run social media for, someone with millions of followers, but don’t want to pay $8 a month for the service, that’s your problem.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,161
    Pagan2 said:

    Leon said:

    I am actually tempted to walk past them and have a fake coughing fit

    Again a small ziploc bag of icing sugar slipped into their luggage and a tipoff to customs agent gets them an intimate exam
    I would caution against this: coming back from a stag do about 20 years ago, a friend of mine jokingly tipped off the customs official about one of the other guests.

    And found himself intimately searched for his pains.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,465
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    Weirdly, it gave the same answer about Macron:


    Indeed... ChatGPT seems to think the same of Joe Biden too:


    Was it programmed by a Liverpudlian?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,465
    Dialup said:

    Whatever. Cooking delicious freshly caught Black Bream (off Sandown Bay) for the family tonight with a Rick Stein recipe.

    Fish laid on a bed of parboiled sliced potatoes with anchovies, peppers, tomatoes, garlic and oregano with chicken stock and saffron.

    Can't wait.




    Looks delicious, any chance of posting the recipe
    Sure.

    https://thehappyfoodie.co.uk/recipes/baked-sea-bass-with-roasted-red-peppers-tomatoes-anchovies-and-potatoes/
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,415
    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    I am actually tempted to walk past them and have a fake coughing fit

    And risk the Captain pulling you off the flight?
    Ooh, matron !
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,872
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Leon said:

    I am actually tempted to walk past them and have a fake coughing fit

    Again a small ziploc bag of icing sugar slipped into their luggage and a tipoff to customs agent gets them an intimate exam
    I would caution against this: coming back from a stag do about 20 years ago, a friend of mine jokingly tipped off the customs official about one of the other guests.

    And found himself intimately searched for his pains.
    I suspect it would bother them more than me, having spent a lot of my youth with either a pillar box red mohican or long hair and a leather jacket I am somewhat acclimatised from travelling
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    rcs1000 said:

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    Weirdly, it gave the same answer about Macron:


    It’s really mastered one plus two. Impressive.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,161
    Leon said:

    Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087

    I have a weird sense that Twitter will survive and today is not “the day it died”. I know. I’m bonkers. But there it is
    Wait? You're still on Twitter?

    I thought all the cool people had migrated to Bluesky already.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
    People who wear masks care about their own health AND the health of OTHERS.

    People who don't, er, don't.

    Endex.
    Well they’ve just taken their masks off and are now sitting there normally, so if they were protecting the HEALTH of OTHERS they’ve just decided they don’t give a fuck about OTHERS any more

    I stand by my conclusion that they are nervous twats, terrified by three years of weirdness into truly abnormal behaviour
    Are there other types of clothing that wind you up that badly? Headscarves? Gloves? Why don't you let them wear what they want, so long as they're not telling you what you should wear?
    I’m clearly drunk on free mediocre Lufthansa Prosecco but there is an important point here. Masks harm social interaction and are REALLY bad for kids and the deaf. We have three trillion facial muscles for a reason. It’s how we interact. Smiles are good. Smiles are great. Masks stop all that

    Get rid
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,502
    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    There is something very special about smiting, though what follows is only a serving suggestion and I accept no liability:


    Christian, dost thou see them
    on the holy ground,
    how the troops of Midian
    prowl and prowl around?
    Christian, up and smite them,
    counting gain but loss;
    smite them by the merit
    of the holy cross.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,872
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087

    I have a weird sense that Twitter will survive and today is not “the day it died”. I know. I’m bonkers. But there it is
    Wait? You're still on Twitter?

    I thought all the cool people had migrated to Bluesky already.
    Yes all the cool people have enough said
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,872
    algarkirk said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    There is something very special about smiting, though what follows is only a serving suggestion and I accept no liability:


    Christian, dost thou see them
    on the holy ground,
    how the troops of Midian
    prowl and prowl around?
    Christian, up and smite them,
    counting gain but loss;
    smite them by the merit
    of the holy cross.
    Didn't jesus ban smiting with his turn the other cheek schtick?
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208
    Omnium said:

    It seems likely that the smoke is worse than the fire here. I'd guess that Raab has been an arse at times, but no more. It must be very difficult to deal with a civil service that can imagine 5 weeks on strike is a good idea.

    But who knows - the report may say Raab is a bad man.

    Civil servants see it as their job to work with ministers I think. I doubt they find Dominic Raab specifically difficult to work with because of their attitude to strikes. Raab by all accounts is a bona fide disingenuous turd. Question is whether he's a sackable disingenuous turd.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,055

    Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087

    Has there ever been any other context in which Ant and Dec were listed alongside the Pope?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,586
    edited April 2023
    Snooker promotor Barry Hearn to fund civil lawsuits from spectators who had their evening disrupted by the protester. They’re going to sue the hell out of the soap-dodger.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/snooker/2023/04/20/just-stop-oil-snooker-protests-barry-hearn-legal-action/
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,439
    Leon said:

    On the other hand there is a woman here of about 40 who is dressed like an ageing high class hooker in a brothel. Black pleated mini skirt. Obviously seamed stockings. A top which is like a lacy negligee. Big boobs falling out. Leather bootees

    Wtf? Lots of zips and Liz truss jewellery

    My guess? An editor for a racy German publishing company heading home after the london book fair. Couldn’t be bothered to change

    Or an actual hooker

    I wouldn’t know what a hooker in a brothel looked like. Ageing, high class or otherwise!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,403
    edited April 2023

    Rishi Sunak was agonising last night over whether to sack Dominic Raab after deciding that he needed more time to review allegations that he bullied officials.

    The prime minister was sent a “very lengthy” report by Adam Tolley KC early yesterday morning but by the evening was still undecided over whether to keep Raab in his cabinet.

    Raab, the deputy prime minister and justice secretary, was also sent a copy of the report and is said to be “confident” he will be exonerated. He believes the report does not show that he breached the ministerial code and will not be offering his resignation, although he has not yet spoken to the prime minister.

    Officials who have seen the report, however, believe that it is “terrible” and think Raab should be sacked. There are also concerns that keeping him in post will be damaging for relations with the civil service.

    Retaining Raab would mean he continues working with officials he knows have made formal complaints about him. It would also be particularly difficult for Antonia Romeo, permanent secretary at the Ministry of Justice, who is understood to have twice warned him about his behaviour after officials made complaints.

    Senior civil servants have prepared briefing packs for new government ministers in the event that Raab is sacked today and there is a reshuffle.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dominic-raab-news-latest-bullying-rishi-sunak-investigation-w377wcnns

    Easy solution.

    Move him to Education.

    He couldn't possibly make a worse shambles of it than it is already.

    And if his behaviour led to several of the civil servants there resigning he would actually be performing a fairly major public service.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Penny Mordaunt confirms SNP will lose short money payments after April if it doesn’t submit accounts by 31 May. So no auditors and 6 weeks to find some, do accounts from scratch and submit. For context the short money is worth big bucks for a party experiencing cash flow issues

    https://twitter.com/deanmthomson/status/1649130680075317254

    Almost £100,000/month
  • glwglw Posts: 9,906
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    So close, ChatGPT, so close.

    How many letter As does the current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom have in his name?


    The current Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (as of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021) is Dominic Raab. There are two letter "a"s in his first name and one letter "a" in his last name, for a total of three letter "a"s in his full name.

    Weirdly, it gave the same answer about Macron:


    Indeed... ChatGPT seems to think the same of Joe Biden too:


    If I had to hazard a guess there is probably a much copied page about letters in the names of famous people, as it turns up multiple times in the dataset with perhaps minor variations the model is heavily weighting a set of names against a single answer, probably the most prominent or first answer.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,576
    I hope nobody on the London Marathon was thinking of using petroleum jelly to stop their chafing..... It'll be all bets off if the soap dodgers catch wind of it.

    (Also, anybody using any plastic in their footwear. And no, you can't use real leather either....)
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,586

    Penny Mordaunt confirms SNP will lose short money payments after April if it doesn’t submit accounts by 31 May. So no auditors and 6 weeks to find some, do accounts from scratch and submit. For context the short money is worth big bucks for a party experiencing cash flow issues
    img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020679/uploads/editor/au/72yxnk0n8rjs.jpeg" alt="" />
    https://twitter.com/deanmthomson/status/1649130680075317254

    Almost £100,000/month

    What might be the cost of the audit though? If they can find an auditor who wants the hassle of having to deal with thousands of upset SNP supporters it the report is anything less than glowing, and with a huge risk of reputational damage if they write a glowing report.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,827

    Penny Mordaunt confirms SNP will lose short money payments after April if it doesn’t submit accounts by 31 May. So no auditors and 6 weeks to find some, do accounts from scratch and submit. For context the short money is worth big bucks for a party experiencing cash flow issues

    https://twitter.com/deanmthomson/status/1649130680075317254

    Almost £100,000/month

    6 weeks to do accounts and get them audited is surely not beyond the wit of man? It might normally take much longer, but that is because the deadlines are many months rather than a few weeks.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
    People who wear masks care about their own health AND the health of OTHERS.

    People who don't, er, don't.

    Endex.
    Well they’ve just taken their masks off and are now sitting there normally, so if they were protecting the HEALTH of OTHERS they’ve just decided they don’t give a fuck about OTHERS any more

    I stand by my conclusion that they are nervous twats, terrified by three years of weirdness into truly abnormal behaviour
    Are there other types of clothing that wind you up that badly? Headscarves? Gloves? Why don't you let them wear what they want, so long as they're not telling you what you should wear?
    It’s a fair point, but for one thing. Humans are social creatures who use facial expressions to keep society moving along nicely. Masking gets in the way, not unlike some extreme forms of Islamic face covering.
    Masks outside of proper clinical environments are also not really that good at doing what people think they are doing. Better to have good ventilation, but best of all to be vaccinated and generally in good health (if possible).
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339
    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087

    I have a weird sense that Twitter will survive and today is not “the day it died”. I know. I’m bonkers. But there it is
    It won’t survive if people who live on Twitter won’t pay for the service. Hence the new blue tick regime. If you are, or run social media for, someone with millions of followers, but don’t want to pay $8 a month for the service, that’s your problem.
    It’s going to be interesting for sure

    A lot of entitled blue tickers whining on Twitter right now. If they migrate en masse Musk has a problem

    But where will they migrate to? Mastodon is a failure. Bluesky has 20,000 users. Twitter is really quite hard to replace
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,055

    Leon said:

    On the other hand there is a woman here of about 40 who is dressed like an ageing high class hooker in a brothel. Black pleated mini skirt. Obviously seamed stockings. A top which is like a lacy negligee. Big boobs falling out. Leather bootees

    Wtf? Lots of zips and Liz truss jewellery

    My guess? An editor for a racy German publishing company heading home after the london book fair. Couldn’t be bothered to change

    Or an actual hooker

    I wouldn’t know what a hooker in a brothel looked like. Ageing, high class or otherwise!
    Must have been a hell of a night.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208
    edited April 2023
    Leon said:

    Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087

    I have a weird sense that Twitter will survive and today is not “the day it died”. I know. I’m bonkers. But there it is
    Elon Musk, pace last thread, has been far from a genius as far as Twitter is concerned. Maybe the real genius was Jack Dorsey who came up with a concept, on the face of it bonkers, that seems to survive whatever Musk does to it.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,055
    Leon said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087

    I have a weird sense that Twitter will survive and today is not “the day it died”. I know. I’m bonkers. But there it is
    It won’t survive if people who live on Twitter won’t pay for the service. Hence the new blue tick regime. If you are, or run social media for, someone with millions of followers, but don’t want to pay $8 a month for the service, that’s your problem.
    It’s going to be interesting for sure

    A lot of entitled blue tickers whining on Twitter right now. If they migrate en masse Musk has a problem

    But where will they migrate to? Mastodon is a failure. Bluesky has 20,000 users. Twitter is really quite hard to replace
    There’s a chance the rest of use take over TikTok, and da yoof have to invent another new home we won’t understand.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,080
    .
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
    People who wear masks care about their own health AND the health of OTHERS.

    People who don't, er, don't.

    Endex.
    Well they’ve just taken their masks off and are now sitting there normally, so if they were protecting the HEALTH of OTHERS they’ve just decided they don’t give a fuck about OTHERS any more

    I stand by my conclusion that they are nervous twats, terrified by three years of weirdness into truly abnormal behaviour
    Are there other types of clothing that wind you up that badly? Headscarves? Gloves? Why don't you let them wear what they want, so long as they're not telling you what you should wear?
    I’m clearly drunk on free mediocre Lufthansa Prosecco but there is an important point here. Masks harm social interaction and are REALLY bad for kids and the deaf. We have three trillion facial muscles for a reason. It’s how we interact. Smiles are good. Smiles are great. Masks stop all that

    Get rid
    The other important point is mind your own business.
    Though I confess to be interested in finding out how efficient are the German airport police.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339
    FF43 said:

    Leon said:

    Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087

    I have a weird sense that Twitter will survive and today is not “the day it died”. I know. I’m bonkers. But there it is
    Elon Musk, pace last thread, has been far from a genius as far as Twitter is concerned. Maybe the real genius was Jack Dorsey who came up with a concept, the face of it bonkers, that seems to survive whatever Musk does to it.
    Well that’s bollocks for starters. Twitter started as a way of enabling Americans to text each other. Because their cell networks couldn’t handle SMS

    That’s it. They just lucked out. Dorsey admits this. There was no genius involved at all
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339
    Nigelb said:

    .

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    There are two guys in their 30s wearing face masks IN THE LOUNGE. They are sitting 5 metres away from anyone else. What the fuck is wrong with these twits?

    I have a strange desire to smite them

    Maybe they have colds and are protecting you?
    They don’t look remotely sick. They look like they are brimful of health. They’re just idiots, I suspect
    People who wear masks care about their own health AND the health of OTHERS.

    People who don't, er, don't.

    Endex.
    Well they’ve just taken their masks off and are now sitting there normally, so if they were protecting the HEALTH of OTHERS they’ve just decided they don’t give a fuck about OTHERS any more

    I stand by my conclusion that they are nervous twats, terrified by three years of weirdness into truly abnormal behaviour
    Are there other types of clothing that wind you up that badly? Headscarves? Gloves? Why don't you let them wear what they want, so long as they're not telling you what you should wear?
    I’m clearly drunk on free mediocre Lufthansa Prosecco but there is an important point here. Masks harm social interaction and are REALLY bad for kids and the deaf. We have three trillion facial muscles for a reason. It’s how we interact. Smiles are good. Smiles are great. Masks stop all that

    Get rid
    The other important point is mind your own business.
    Though I confess to be interested in finding out how efficient are the German airport police.
    I think I glared at them so hard they took their masks off in shame. I’m now going to try the same tactic on the “ageing high class hooker”
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,092
    Leon said:

    FF43 said:

    Leon said:

    Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087

    I have a weird sense that Twitter will survive and today is not “the day it died”. I know. I’m bonkers. But there it is
    Elon Musk, pace last thread, has been far from a genius as far as Twitter is concerned. Maybe the real genius was Jack Dorsey who came up with a concept, the face of it bonkers, that seems to survive whatever Musk does to it.
    Well that’s bollocks for starters. Twitter started as a way of enabling Americans to text each other. Because their cell networks couldn’t handle SMS

    That’s it. They just lucked out. Dorsey admits this. There was no genius involved at all
    A useful definition of genius is the ability to spot the obvious thing that nobody else has spotted.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,097

    Just to go out on a limb....

    I have no love for Raab. I have no doubt he can be an objectionable See You Next Tuesday.

    However, if as is stated he has made people cry because he has ripped the shit out of the quality of work they have produced for him, then good for him. He is at the top of Government. He has a right to expect the very highest quality briefing materials to be available to him. If somebody too junior is put in harms way, that is the fault of the Civil Service. Our top Ministers should not be getting work experience snowflakes briefing them. If he makes Malcolm Tucker look like Mary Poppins, then the Civil Service should expect that - and man up accordingly.

    Were one to accept that line of reasoning, it only works if Raab accurately judged the quality of work in front of him as bad. Given everything we've seen of Raab's career to date, isn't it more likely that the poor civil servant did a good job, but Raab couldn't see that?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339
    viewcode said:

    Leon said:

    FF43 said:

    Leon said:

    Today is the day Twitter died.

    Twitter has finally started removing "legacy" blue ticks from verified accounts, with some of the world's best-known figures losing the verification sign.

    The Pope, author JK Rowling, football star Cristiano Ronaldo, US rapper Jay-Z, and TV stars Ant and Dec have lost their blue ticks on the social networking site, along with the Labour and Conservative parties.


    https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-the-pope-jk-rowling-and-ant-and-dec-among-hundreds-of-thousands-losing-their-blue-ticks-as-elon-musks-cull-begins-12862087

    I have a weird sense that Twitter will survive and today is not “the day it died”. I know. I’m bonkers. But there it is
    Elon Musk, pace last thread, has been far from a genius as far as Twitter is concerned. Maybe the real genius was Jack Dorsey who came up with a concept, the face of it bonkers, that seems to survive whatever Musk does to it.
    Well that’s bollocks for starters. Twitter started as a way of enabling Americans to text each other. Because their cell networks couldn’t handle SMS

    That’s it. They just lucked out. Dorsey admits this. There was no genius involved at all
    A useful definition of genius is the ability to spot the obvious thing that nobody else has spotted.
    But they didn’t do that. They got incredibly lucky and others used their invention in a way they never intended or anticipated. Hats off to them for lucking
    out but it is hard to describe this as “genius”
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