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A Royal Rumble – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 8,489
edited January 29 in General
imageA Royal Rumble – politicalbetting.com

Ladbrokes have a market up on whether The Duke of Sussex will attend his father’s coronation. This market is a poor reflection on King Charles III that he has created such a hostile environment that his youngest son may not attend his coronation.

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  • God Save The Lord Protector.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 47,268
    The more interesting market is whether Meghan gets an invite....
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 42,503
    God Save the King.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,264
    @Gabriel_Pogrund: NEW: Labour calls for investigation into Richard Sharp’s selection as BBC chair by commissioner for public appointm… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617159782099570690
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 32,309
    At least Charles spared us a description of his oscillating, frost-bitten todger, all those years ago.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 73,473
    Some food firms may be using inflation as an excuse to hike prices further than necessary, the chairman of Tesco has said.

    Asked by the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg if food producers were taking advantage of the poorest in society, John Allan said it was "entirely possible".

    He said Tesco was trying "very hard" to challenge price hikes it thinks are illegitimate.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64364744

    I think Tesco's might want to look at their own house....e.g. Tesco Express sells bananas per item, your normal Tesco sells by weight....the former is often 4-5x more expensive.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 47,268
    edited January 22
    FPT Chris: "By the same token, shouldn't Richard Sharp resign immediately as Chairman of the BBC?"

    Yes, he should. One of his responsibilities at the BBC is as follows:

    "The Board, under the Chairman, also must ensure that the BBC maintains the highest standards of corporate governance."

    Now, you COULD argue that the BBC's best interests were in having the PM of the day in their pocket. But I wouldn't try it.

    Just curious as to whether the Sunak government's change of heart on the sale of Channel 4 might get dragged into this...
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 16,322
    No is value here.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 36,825
    I think most likely that Harry does attend, without Meghan or children.

    I suspect though that Royal protocol will be to seat him well back from the first row, and to exclude him from other official appearances.
  • TazTaz Posts: 6,594

    Some food firms may be using inflation as an excuse to hike prices further than necessary, the chairman of Tesco has said.

    Indeed and not just food firms.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 19,093
    ...
    Sean_F said:

    At least Charles spared us a description of his oscillating, frost-bitten todger, all those years ago.

    I do recall a detailed analogous narrative regarding sanitary products.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,264
    @BethRigby: Labour’s @LucyMPowell has written to the Public Appointments Commissioner Shawcross asking him to investigate appoi… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617165306719264775

    @MatthewOToole2: Of course the Commissioner for Public Appointments is... the father of the Head of the No10 policy unit.

    Which giv… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617161218594328577
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 73,473
    Is this why SeanT has so many alter-egos?

    Diversity ‘box-ticking’ could cost us the next John Grisham, says top publisher
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/21/diversity-box-ticking-could-cost-us-next-john-grisham-says-top/
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 42,503

    Some food firms may be using inflation as an excuse to hike prices further than necessary, the chairman of Tesco has said.

    Asked by the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg if food producers were taking advantage of the poorest in society, John Allan said it was "entirely possible".

    He said Tesco was trying "very hard" to challenge price hikes it thinks are illegitimate.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64364744

    I think Tesco's might want to look at their own house....e.g. Tesco Express sells bananas per item, your normal Tesco sells by weight....the former is often 4-5x more expensive.

    Ask any farmer what it’s like having to deal with the supermarkets. It’s clear where the most profits lie in the grocery industry, and it’s not with producers.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 32,309

    ...

    Sean_F said:

    At least Charles spared us a description of his oscillating, frost-bitten todger, all those years ago.

    I do recall a detailed analogous narrative regarding sanitary products.
    TBF, it was not information that he volunteered.

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 36,825
    I am about 2/3 of the way through the Audible version of Spare, read by Harry himself.

    Not my usual cup of tea, but it is surprisingly good. Truly warts and all, Harry is quite self critical at times, as well as self-pitying. While there are well publicised criticisms of a number of other Royals, there are quite complimentary passages too.

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,836

    Taz said:

    The term ‘mummy’ for ancient Egyptians should no longer be used for fear of offending them 😂😂😂😂😂

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/mummy-offensive-dehumanising-banned-ancient-egypt-museums-edinburgh/

    I'm not expecting the early Hollywood release of the "The Curse of the Mummified Man, Woman, Boy, Girl or Person"...
    FPT

    They do have a point. But also 'mummy' is ambiguous - the Ancient Es mummified cats, ibises, crocodiles, bulls ... as well as people. And it also means the generic pharmacopoeial substance made from grinding down mummified people, if you were lucky, and other animals, if you were unlucky (but got charged the same).
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 19,093
    Foxy said:

    I am about 2/3 of the way through the Audible version of Spare, read by Harry himself.

    Not my usual cup of tea, but it is surprisingly good. Truly warts and all, Harry is quite self critical at times, as well as self-pitying. While there are well publicised criticisms of a number of other Royals, there are quite complimentary passages too.

    Complimentary passages? You clearly haven't got the Daily Mail edit.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,836
    edited January 22

    Foxy said:

    I am about 2/3 of the way through the Audible version of Spare, read by Harry himself.

    Not my usual cup of tea, but it is surprisingly good. Truly warts and all, Harry is quite self critical at times, as well as self-pitying. While there are well publicised criticisms of a number of other Royals, there are quite complimentary passages too.

    Complimentary passages? You clearly haven't got the Daily Mail edit.
    Foxy might like to compare notes - but only when he is finished - with this fairly middle of the road assessment (by someone for whom royal stuff is not normal fodder either, [edit] either way).

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/14/prince-harry-has-left-the-zoo-so-why-is-he-being-treated-like-a-caged-animal
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 36,825

    Foxy said:

    I am about 2/3 of the way through the Audible version of Spare, read by Harry himself.

    Not my usual cup of tea, but it is surprisingly good. Truly warts and all, Harry is quite self critical at times, as well as self-pitying. While there are well publicised criticisms of a number of other Royals, there are quite complimentary passages too.

    Complimentary passages? You clearly haven't got the Daily Mail edit.
    No, they are not interested in those.

    It is a weird and privileged life, flitting around the world with a variety of poho mates, but also positively comes alive when escaping the gilded cage into the Army, and also into the wilderness in Africa, Australia and the polar regions. There is a a self-destructive streak in him throughout his life, seeking to test himself.

  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 20,506
    Foxy said:

    I am about 2/3 of the way through the Audible version of Spare, read by Harry himself.

    Not my usual cup of tea, but it is surprisingly good. Truly warts and all, Harry is quite self critical at times, as well as self-pitying. While there are well publicised criticisms of a number of other Royals, there are quite complimentary passages too.

    Would you like us all to acknowledge that you have struck a profound blow to the monarchichal establishment so that you can stop and preserve some brian cells?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 73,473
    More target practice for the west weapons in Ukraine..

    Chechen soldiers in Ukraine to receive 'Jihadi mobile' assault vehicles
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/01/21/chechen-soldiers-ukraine-receive-jihadi-mobile-assault-vehicles/
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 49,020
    Will I get an invite to the coronation if I talk about the problems I've experienced with my penis?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 36,825
    edited January 22
    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    I am about 2/3 of the way through the Audible version of Spare, read by Harry himself.

    Not my usual cup of tea, but it is surprisingly good. Truly warts and all, Harry is quite self critical at times, as well as self-pitying. While there are well publicised criticisms of a number of other Royals, there are quite complimentary passages too.

    Complimentary passages? You clearly haven't got the Daily Mail edit.
    Foxy might like to compare notes - but only when he is finished - with this fairly middle of the road assessment (by someone for whom royal stuff is not normal fodder either, [edit] either way).

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/14/prince-harry-has-left-the-zoo-so-why-is-he-being-treated-like-a-caged-animal
    I haven't got to the Meghan years yet, but I think that review is pretty good. Charles comes over well in the main, a loving father if a bit emotionally repressed.

    While there are discomforts from being "the spare" the straitjacket of being the heir looks far more uncomfortable. Harry has always had much more freedom than his brother or father to live adventurously.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 11,576

    Will I get an invite to the coronation if I talk about the problems I've experienced with my penis?

    I can only suggest you try and see what happens.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 1,909

    Will I get an invite to the coronation if I talk about the problems I've experienced with my penis?

    I’m assuming that the Black Rod will be representing parliament at the coronation and it sounds like a nasty penile problem so I guess it’s a route/root.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 45,880

    Will I get an invite to the coronation if I talk about the problems I've experienced with my penis?

    Better chance if you promise not to.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 11,240

    Will I get an invite to the coronation if I talk about the problems I've experienced with my penis?

    If those problems involved a brief bout of penile cancer, some associated fundraising and awareness raising, and absolutely gushing praise for your NHS treatment, then I expect the answer would be yes.

    A high price to pay for entry.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 42,503

    More target practice for the west weapons in Ukraine..

    Chechen soldiers in Ukraine to receive 'Jihadi mobile' assault vehicles
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/01/21/chechen-soldiers-ukraine-receive-jihadi-mobile-assault-vehicles/

    More like target practice for the little home-made Ukranian drones.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 36,825

    Foxy said:

    I am about 2/3 of the way through the Audible version of Spare, read by Harry himself.

    Not my usual cup of tea, but it is surprisingly good. Truly warts and all, Harry is quite self critical at times, as well as self-pitying. While there are well publicised criticisms of a number of other Royals, there are quite complimentary passages too.

    Would you like us all to acknowledge that you have struck a profound blow to the monarchichal establishment so that you can stop and preserve some brian cells?
    I am not anti-Monarchist, and neither is the book. Perhaps if you read/listened to it, it might surprise you.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 1,909
    edited January 22
    Totally off topic but if anyone has Disney + may I recommend watching “The Menu”. It’s the film Glass Onion tried to be. A mysterious selection of guests invited to an island with a murder mystery type situation where there are clearly connections between guests but how will it all pan out. A very darkly funny film where Ralph Fiennes channels the quiet menace he did in Red Dragon and Schindlers List. A very original twist on that sort of genre. One of the first films I have watched for a long time where I haven’t googled the story so I didn’t have to concentrate but just wanted to see how it panned out.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,264
    @Gabriel_Pogrund: NEW: Cabinet Office issues statement in response to Sharp story defending the “rigorous process”.

    However, it won’… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617177420163092480
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 17,643
    boulay said:

    Totally off topic but if anyone has Disney + may I recommend watching “The Menu”. It’s the film Glass Onion tried to be. A mysterious selection of guests invited to an island with a murder mystery type situation where there are clearly connections between guests but how will it all pan out. A very darkly funny film where Ralph Fiennes channels the quiet menace he did in Red Dragon and Schindlers List. A very original twist on that sort of genre. One of the first films I have watched for a long time where I haven’t googled the story so I didn’t have to concentrate but just wanted to see how it panned out.

    It’s very good. As you say, everything Glass Onion might have been and wasn’t. I don’t think I’ll ever look at a high concept restaurant the same again.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 16,322

    Will I get an invite to the coronation if I talk about the problems I've experienced with my penis?

    Its a hard call but touch wood yes.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 1,909

    boulay said:

    Totally off topic but if anyone has Disney + may I recommend watching “The Menu”. It’s the film Glass Onion tried to be. A mysterious selection of guests invited to an island with a murder mystery type situation where there are clearly connections between guests but how will it all pan out. A very darkly funny film where Ralph Fiennes channels the quiet menace he did in Red Dragon and Schindlers List. A very original twist on that sort of genre. One of the first films I have watched for a long time where I haven’t googled the story so I didn’t have to concentrate but just wanted to see how it panned out.

    It’s very good. As you say, everything Glass Onion might have been and wasn’t. I don’t think I’ll ever look at a high concept restaurant the same again.
    Haven’t seen so much beautiful passive aggression on film as that from the restaurant manager. Great twists and just so wonderfully dark and funny. A collection of horrible people getting their “just desserts” sorry!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 36,825

    More target practice for the west weapons in Ukraine..

    Chechen soldiers in Ukraine to receive 'Jihadi mobile' assault vehicles
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/01/21/chechen-soldiers-ukraine-receive-jihadi-mobile-assault-vehicles/

    Makes a change from the equipment that the average mobik unit gets, an artillery unit without cannons, or mobile Infantry with a single truck.

    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1616723847600046080?t=rJRxHt7qwwTwtj37e2ZiYg&s=19
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 9,214
    On topic.

    “If the King can have such a terrible relationship with his son, it bodes ill for the state of his relationship with the country after a few years of him being King.”

    What a daft thing to say. What a really crap anti monarchy header. 😠

    The very early starts on this “farming holiday” means I am going to bed earlier, so less time on PB. I do apologise. Last evening I left the parents watching Lady Voyeur on Netflix and crashed out listening to Shoshterkoviks 5th symphony on my cams - so that was all a bit AbFab 😆

    I had seen the Vicar and his wife about helping at Sunday School this week and they loved the idea of a “Star Turn.” So I guess I am a star turn wherever I go, if your going to be polite about it.

    My lesson explained and explored the difference between Monergism and Synergism, which imo opinion is a cool thing for Church of England Sunday school - explaining what each means, and then asking for feedback do you think regeneration of people is work of God through Holy Spirit alone, or do we have to cooperate with God's grace in order to be born again as new?

    I can today make a psephological prediction on polls not taken yet - I know a lot of PBers are lurking waiting to read polling predictions from me so they can be apoplectic about them 😄 The government are in an awkward spot right now by being enemy of the voters on the strikes and with these sleaze allegations have some tricky “who knew what when questions” coming, so my opinion their polling regeneration towards average of 30% might be a pause a while.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 45,880
    edited January 22
    Scott_xP said:

    @Gabriel_Pogrund: NEW: Cabinet Office issues statement in response to Sharp story defending the “rigorous process”.

    However, it won’… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617177420163092480

    What an unbelievably stupid response. The fact is that having arranged a guarantee for the PM's £800k loan he was simply ineligible for the post. Which is presumably why he didn't disclose it at the time.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,264
    @BloombergUK: Angela Rayner said Rishi Sunka must reveal what he knew about Nadhim Zahawi's settlement with HMRC https://t.co/MSrPZLNAdx
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,264
    @bbclaurak: 'Get it all out now' over tax affairs, Zahawi urged https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64364816
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 25,298
    DavidL said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @Gabriel_Pogrund: NEW: Cabinet Office issues statement in response to Sharp story defending the “rigorous process”.

    However, it won’… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617177420163092480

    What an unbelievably stupid response. The fact is that having arranged a guarantee for the PM's £800k loan he was simply ineligible for the post. Which is presumably why he didn't disclose it at the time.
    The "rigorous process" was can you hook me up with more cash than the others?
    Does Boris Johnson actually ever pay for anything himself?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,836

    Foxy said:

    I am about 2/3 of the way through the Audible version of Spare, read by Harry himself.

    Not my usual cup of tea, but it is surprisingly good. Truly warts and all, Harry is quite self critical at times, as well as self-pitying. While there are well publicised criticisms of a number of other Royals, there are quite complimentary passages too.

    Would you like us all to acknowledge that you have struck a profound blow to the monarchichal establishment so that you can stop and preserve some brian cells?
    Isn't that what royalty is about, preserving the genetics of HMtK?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,264
    @TelePolitics: 🔴 Voters believe Labour is twice as likely to cut taxes as the Conservatives, polling for The Telegraph reveals https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/21/labour-twice-likely-cut-taxes-conservatives-say-voters/
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 20,506
    Fpt:

    How to make poor areas richer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y5moVvzayc

    I thought this might be an interesting piece from the economist, instead I came away with was really nobody has any real new ideas....

    Devolve more power (then using their own figures, show the areas of the UK with the most devolved powers haven't done any better), cherry pick an example of a rough US city who has done well out of hyper focus on educating around one industry (except they miss the fact that the university driving this has been an elite university with eye watering funding since its inception....bit like saying well lots of companies move to Cambridge (or perhaps Bristol is a better example) because of the poly there.....build massive infrastructure projects to upgrade left behind cities , but then admit even Germany can't actually afford to do this fully, they only did it to select number of big cities, not small towns (isn't that what has happened in Manchester, Birmingham, Newcastle etc)

    Thanks for posting this. The video is a bit wishy-washy but it’s not true that nobody has any ideas.

    As the video points out, Germany took on the challenge of “levelling up” East Germany after 1989, and although a disparity remains, East Germany is now richer than much of Britain.

    Devolution to date has been minimal.
    Britain has pretty much the weakest local government in the OECD, and among the lowest levels of regional infrastructure investment.

    As a consequence it is perhaps the most regionally unequal country in the Western world, hugely expensive in terms of wasted human capital.
    I think the key point about successful regeneration is that there isn't a set formula; it's bespoke. It could be a regulatory or tax change like gambling in Atlantic City, or income taxes in Monaco, a new facility opening to provide new jobs, either directly in the case of a factory, or indirectly like a military base or tourist attraction. It could be striking oil, or gold. In each case, I still believe that giving councils or quangos wodges of money to chuck at the situation is not the right way to go about things.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,264
    @DanNeidle: I gave an interview to BBC Breakfast this morning on Zahawi's statement/partial admission. That, and my detailed re… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617102683881578498
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 25,298
    Scott_xP said:

    @TelePolitics: 🔴 Voters believe Labour is twice as likely to cut taxes as the Conservatives, polling for The Telegraph reveals https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/21/labour-twice-likely-cut-taxes-conservatives-say-voters/

    Given that we've the highest tax burden ever, and likely to soon have a decade of Labour government, then they'd be right.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 107,356
    The King in no way attacked his own family in the way the Duke did, plus of course he always remained a working royal, he didn't abandon his royal duties like Harry.

    The Sussexes are also deeply unpopular in the UK now and might even if be booed if they attended, so would probably not come even if invited. More likely the King offers them a role as Ambassadors to the Commonwealth after the coronation which they seem to be interested in while restricting HRHs to working royals.

    Had my own brush with royalty on the way back to the gym with Danny Dyer driving behind me, who is of course descended from Edward III!
  • boulayboulay Posts: 1,909
    dixiedean said:

    DavidL said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @Gabriel_Pogrund: NEW: Cabinet Office issues statement in response to Sharp story defending the “rigorous process”.

    However, it won’… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617177420163092480

    What an unbelievably stupid response. The fact is that having arranged a guarantee for the PM's £800k loan he was simply ineligible for the post. Which is presumably why he didn't disclose it at the time.
    The "rigorous process" was can you hook me up with more cash than the others?
    Does Boris Johnson actually ever pay for anything himself?
    He will pay with his soul, his own room in hell where he is penniless and there are no women for eternity and he can see out of his cell window Rishi Sunak partying away burning £50 notes whilst being pawed at by buxom blondes whilst the greats of Latin and Greek literature and philosophy praise Rishi. And then Darius Guppy will come into his cell every night and beat him senseless.

    This might not be true.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 19,093
    ...
    Scott_xP said:

    @bbclaurak: 'Get it all out now' over tax affairs, Zahawi urged https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64364816

    I liked that in the interests of balance Laura's non- Conservative guest this morning was Boris Johnson's sister.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 107,356
    dixiedean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TelePolitics: 🔴 Voters believe Labour is twice as likely to cut taxes as the Conservatives, polling for The Telegraph reveals https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/21/labour-twice-likely-cut-taxes-conservatives-say-voters/

    Given that we've the highest tax burden ever, and likely to soon have a decade of Labour government, then they'd be right.
    Well they will be in for a shock as Labour will need to raise taxes to fund its spending plans
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 42,503

    ...

    Scott_xP said:

    @bbclaurak: 'Get it all out now' over tax affairs, Zahawi urged https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64364816

    I liked that in the interests of balance Laura's non- Conservative guest this morning was Boris Johnson's sister.
    Given that Boris seems to about as popular as Harry with their respective families, that’s not a bad call for a guest.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 17,643
    edited January 22

    Fpt:

    How to make poor areas richer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y5moVvzayc

    I thought this might be an interesting piece from the economist, instead I came away with was really nobody has any real new ideas....

    Devolve more power (then using their own figures, show the areas of the UK with the most devolved powers haven't done any better), cherry pick an example of a rough US city who has done well out of hyper focus on educating around one industry (except they miss the fact that the university driving this has been an elite university with eye watering funding since its inception....bit like saying well lots of companies move to Cambridge (or perhaps Bristol is a better example) because of the poly there.....build massive infrastructure projects to upgrade left behind cities , but then admit even Germany can't actually afford to do this fully, they only did it to select number of big cities, not small towns (isn't that what has happened in Manchester, Birmingham, Newcastle etc)

    Thanks for posting this. The video is a bit wishy-washy but it’s not true that nobody has any ideas.

    As the video points out, Germany took on the challenge of “levelling up” East Germany after 1989, and although a disparity remains, East Germany is now richer than much of Britain.

    Devolution to date has been minimal.
    Britain has pretty much the weakest local government in the OECD, and among the lowest levels of regional infrastructure investment.

    As a consequence it is perhaps the most regionally unequal country in the Western world, hugely expensive in terms of wasted human capital.
    I think the key point about successful regeneration is that there isn't a set formula; it's bespoke. It could be a regulatory or tax change like gambling in Atlantic City, or income taxes in Monaco, a new facility opening to provide new jobs, either directly in the case of a factory, or indirectly like a military base or tourist attraction. It could be striking oil, or gold. In each case, I still believe that giving councils or quangos wodges of money to chuck at the situation is not the right way to go about things.
    This is the devolution point, though.
    In essence we want Atlantic City to make its own decision - and the fiscal ability to make its own decision - to pursue gambling.

    No official in Whitehall is ever going to decide that Blackpool could be Lancashire’s answer to Macau.

    However, there are some things - like a proper Liverpool to Hull line - that require central government funding.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 42,503
    edited January 22
    Scott_xP said:

    @TelePolitics: 🔴 Voters believe Labour is twice as likely to cut taxes as the Conservatives, polling for The Telegraph reveals https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/21/labour-twice-likely-cut-taxes-conservatives-say-voters/

    Ha ha. The last Labour government lasted 13 years and cut how many taxes?

    It’s also a great illustration of how Rishi Sunak is going down like a cup of cold sick, with those who should be his party’s natural supporters.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 42,503
    edited January 22

    Fpt:

    How to make poor areas richer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y5moVvzayc

    I thought this might be an interesting piece from the economist, instead I came away with was really nobody has any real new ideas....

    Devolve more power (then using their own figures, show the areas of the UK with the most devolved powers haven't done any better), cherry pick an example of a rough US city who has done well out of hyper focus on educating around one industry (except they miss the fact that the university driving this has been an elite university with eye watering funding since its inception....bit like saying well lots of companies move to Cambridge (or perhaps Bristol is a better example) because of the poly there.....build massive infrastructure projects to upgrade left behind cities , but then admit even Germany can't actually afford to do this fully, they only did it to select number of big cities, not small towns (isn't that what has happened in Manchester, Birmingham, Newcastle etc)

    Thanks for posting this. The video is a bit wishy-washy but it’s not true that nobody has any ideas.

    As the video points out, Germany took on the challenge of “levelling up” East Germany after 1989, and although a disparity remains, East Germany is now richer than much of Britain.

    Devolution to date has been minimal.
    Britain has pretty much the weakest local government in the OECD, and among the lowest levels of regional infrastructure investment.

    As a consequence it is perhaps the most regionally unequal country in the Western world, hugely expensive in terms of wasted human capital.
    I think the key point about successful regeneration is that there isn't a set formula; it's bespoke. It could be a regulatory or tax change like gambling in Atlantic City, or income taxes in Monaco, a new facility opening to provide new jobs, either directly in the case of a factory, or indirectly like a military base or tourist attraction. It could be striking oil, or gold. In each case, I still believe that giving councils or quangos wodges of money to chuck at the situation is not the right way to go about things.
    This is the devolution point, though.
    In essence we want Atlantic City to make its own decision - and the fiscal ability to make its own decision - to pursue gambling.

    No official in Whitehall is ever going to decide that Blackpool could be Lancashire’s answer to Macau.
    Which is why the Whitehall blob needs to be cleared out from top to bottom, replaced with people who actually want to see growth in the economy rather than manage the decline.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 11,576
    Scott_xP said:

    @TelePolitics: 🔴 Voters believe Labour is twice as likely to cut taxes as the Conservatives, polling for The Telegraph reveals https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/21/labour-twice-likely-cut-taxes-conservatives-say-voters/

    Which makes it clear voters have forgotten what labour governments actually do.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 17,643
    edited January 22

    ...

    Scott_xP said:

    @bbclaurak: 'Get it all out now' over tax affairs, Zahawi urged https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64364816

    I liked that in the interests of balance Laura's non- Conservative guest this morning was Boris Johnson's sister.
    The entire Johnson clan are sexually licentious and probably corrupt. Some kind of Gillray meets Ghormenghast clan.
    Scott_xP said:

    @TelePolitics: 🔴 Voters believe Labour is twice as likely to cut taxes as the Conservatives, polling for The Telegraph reveals https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/21/labour-twice-likely-cut-taxes-conservatives-say-voters/

    This doesn’t say much about the electorate’s awareness of fiscal reality.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,836
    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TelePolitics: 🔴 Voters believe Labour is twice as likely to cut taxes as the Conservatives, polling for The Telegraph reveals https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/21/labour-twice-likely-cut-taxes-conservatives-say-voters/

    Ha ha. The last Labour government lasted 13 years and cut how many taxes?

    It’s also a great illustration of how Rishi Sunak is going down like a cup of cold sick, with those who should be his party’s natural supporters.
    Eh? ISTR Mr Blair cutting business taxes, but only very dimly admittedly. And you have to include real returns - he improved the support to the poor (negative taxes).
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,264

    ...

    Scott_xP said:

    @bbclaurak: 'Get it all out now' over tax affairs, Zahawi urged https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64364816

    I liked that in the interests of balance Laura's non- Conservative guest this morning was Boris Johnson's sister.


    Maybe you could get the chairman of the BBC to arrange a massive loan guarantee..?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 107,356
    Carnyx said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TelePolitics: 🔴 Voters believe Labour is twice as likely to cut taxes as the Conservatives, polling for The Telegraph reveals https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/21/labour-twice-likely-cut-taxes-conservatives-say-voters/

    Ha ha. The last Labour government lasted 13 years and cut how many taxes?

    It’s also a great illustration of how Rishi Sunak is going down like a cup of cold sick, with those who should be his party’s natural supporters.
    Eh? ISTR Mr Blair cutting business taxes, but only very dimly admittedly. And you have to include real returns - he improved the support to the poor (negative taxes).
    Labour abolished mortgage interest tax relief, tax relief on pension dividends and by the end of its last period of government had put the top rate of income tax up to 50% too
  • ChrisChris Posts: 9,073
    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    Scott_xP said:

    @bbclaurak: 'Get it all out now' over tax affairs, Zahawi urged https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64364816

    I liked that in the interests of balance Laura's non- Conservative guest this morning was Boris Johnson's sister.


    Maybe you could get the chairman of the BBC to arrange a massive loan guarantee..?
    Only by promising to make him Archbishop of Canterbury or something.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 17,643
    edited January 22
    Just relaxing with the LRB (Sunday morning here).

    This little nugget is great:

    It was at the same election that Channon stepped into what was for the 20th century a most unusual pocket borough. Lord Elvedon was the MP for Southend from 1918 until he became earl of Iveagh in 1927; his wife took over the seat until 1935, when it passed to Chips (who married into the family), until his death in 1958. It passed to his 23-year-old son, Paul, who represented Southend West until 1997…
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 20,506

    Fpt:

    How to make poor areas richer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y5moVvzayc

    I thought this might be an interesting piece from the economist, instead I came away with was really nobody has any real new ideas....

    Devolve more power (then using their own figures, show the areas of the UK with the most devolved powers haven't done any better), cherry pick an example of a rough US city who has done well out of hyper focus on educating around one industry (except they miss the fact that the university driving this has been an elite university with eye watering funding since its inception....bit like saying well lots of companies move to Cambridge (or perhaps Bristol is a better example) because of the poly there.....build massive infrastructure projects to upgrade left behind cities , but then admit even Germany can't actually afford to do this fully, they only did it to select number of big cities, not small towns (isn't that what has happened in Manchester, Birmingham, Newcastle etc)

    Thanks for posting this. The video is a bit wishy-washy but it’s not true that nobody has any ideas.

    As the video points out, Germany took on the challenge of “levelling up” East Germany after 1989, and although a disparity remains, East Germany is now richer than much of Britain.

    Devolution to date has been minimal.
    Britain has pretty much the weakest local government in the OECD, and among the lowest levels of regional infrastructure investment.

    As a consequence it is perhaps the most regionally unequal country in the Western world, hugely expensive in terms of wasted human capital.
    I think the key point about successful regeneration is that there isn't a set formula; it's bespoke. It could be a regulatory or tax change like gambling in Atlantic City, or income taxes in Monaco, a new facility opening to provide new jobs, either directly in the case of a factory, or indirectly like a military base or tourist attraction. It could be striking oil, or gold. In each case, I still believe that giving councils or quangos wodges of money to chuck at the situation is not the right way to go about things.
    This is the devolution point, though.
    In essence we want Atlantic City to make its own decision - and the fiscal ability to make its own decision - to pursue gambling.

    No official in Whitehall is ever going to decide that Blackpool could be Lancashire’s answer to Macau.

    However, there are some things - like a proper Liverpool to Hull line - that require central government funding.
    I can see the argument, but the surrounding scenery of that political change must be taken into account. At the moment, we are an indebted, suffocatingly bureacratic, money-hemmoraging country. Further devolution to me seems to be a very quick way to become even more of all those things.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 73,473
    edited January 22

    Scott_xP said:

    @TelePolitics: 🔴 Voters believe Labour is twice as likely to cut taxes as the Conservatives, polling for The Telegraph reveals https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/21/labour-twice-likely-cut-taxes-conservatives-say-voters/

    Which makes it clear voters have forgotten what labour governments actually do.
    Only going to get worse if we suffer a 70s style brain drain, which I can see happening regardless of party in power, remote working, high taxes, high interest rates, high inflation, crime, malfunctioning / inefficient public services, piss poor productivity in private sector, yadda yadda yadda.
  • Birdy71Birdy71 Posts: 1
    This is the biggest pile of crap I have read on here and I have read a lot of crap on here over the years!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 73,473
    edited January 22
    Herd immunity.....and (officially) only a couple of deaths (well 60k, yeah right)....

    China celebrates lunar new year as Covid infections hit 80 per cent
    Holiday travel is low risk because so many have had the disease, says top government epidemiologist

    https://www.ft.com/content/50de38e2-b2ae-41ab-b9ab-8d07d009d8a8
  • boulayboulay Posts: 1,909
    Birdy71 said:

    This is the biggest pile of crap I have read on here and I have read a lot of crap on here over the years!

    And yet you managed to surpass it in your first post. chapeau.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,264
    Birdy71 said:

    I have read a lot of crap on here over the years!

    Why?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 1,477
    Birdy71 said:

    This is the biggest pile of crap I have read on here and I have read a lot of crap on here over the years!

    Solid first post. Welcome!
  • boulay said:

    Will I get an invite to the coronation if I talk about the problems I've experienced with my penis?

    I’m assuming that the Black Rod will be representing parliament at the coronation and it sounds like a nasty penile problem so I guess it’s a route/root.
    Shouldn't it be the Afro-Caribbean Rod? [Other Rods are available on request.]
  • kjhkjh Posts: 8,345
    HYUFD said:

    The King in no way attacked his own family in the way the Duke did, plus of course he always remained a working royal, he didn't abandon his royal duties like Harry.

    The Sussexes are also deeply unpopular in the UK now and might even if be booed if they attended, so would probably not come even if invited. More likely the King offers them a role as Ambassadors to the Commonwealth after the coronation which they seem to be interested in while restricting HRHs to working royals.

    Had my own brush with royalty on the way back to the gym with Danny Dyer driving behind me, who is of course descended from Edward III!

    We are nearly all descended from Edward III of course, it is just Danny Dyer can prove it unlike me.
  • TazTaz Posts: 6,594
    I’d love to see the King take the knee. Perhaps they could perform the coronation as drill rap too.
  • Is Laura K even trying to be impartial anymore?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 11,576
    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    The King in no way attacked his own family in the way the Duke did, plus of course he always remained a working royal, he didn't abandon his royal duties like Harry.

    The Sussexes are also deeply unpopular in the UK now and might even if be booed if they attended, so would probably not come even if invited. More likely the King offers them a role as Ambassadors to the Commonwealth after the coronation which they seem to be interested in while restricting HRHs to working royals.

    Had my own brush with royalty on the way back to the gym with Danny Dyer driving behind me, who is of course descended from Edward III!

    We are nearly all descended from Edward III of course, it is just Danny Dyer can prove it unlike me.
    I’ve often wondered how true that is. I know the idea that as you go back in generations the number of ancestors increases, potentially doubling each time, but in previous eras where people generally travelled less and married locally, you’d suspect that many of those ancestors crop up more than once.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 11,576

    Is Laura K even trying to be impartial anymore?

    Why do you say this?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 17,949
    edited January 22
    California mass shooting: Suspect on the run after Chinese New Year attack

    Ten people have been killed and at least 10 others were injured in the attack which happened at a business in the city of Monterey Park, about 10 miles from central Los Angeles; the suspect is still at large.

    https://news.sky.com/story/california-mass-shooting-suspect-on-the-run-after-chinese-new-year-attack-latest-updates-12792682
  • Is Laura K even trying to be impartial anymore?

    Why do you say this?
    Her programme was literally three Tories
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 11,576

    Is Laura K even trying to be impartial anymore?

    Why do you say this?
    Her programme was literally three Tories
    Nicola Sturgeon? Rachel Reeves?
  • Fpt:

    How to make poor areas richer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y5moVvzayc

    I thought this might be an interesting piece from the economist, instead I came away with was really nobody has any real new ideas....

    Devolve more power (then using their own figures, show the areas of the UK with the most devolved powers haven't done any better), cherry pick an example of a rough US city who has done well out of hyper focus on educating around one industry (except they miss the fact that the university driving this has been an elite university with eye watering funding since its inception....bit like saying well lots of companies move to Cambridge (or perhaps Bristol is a better example) because of the poly there.....build massive infrastructure projects to upgrade left behind cities , but then admit even Germany can't actually afford to do this fully, they only did it to select number of big cities, not small towns (isn't that what has happened in Manchester, Birmingham, Newcastle etc)

    Thanks for posting this. The video is a bit wishy-washy but it’s not true that nobody has any ideas.

    As the video points out, Germany took on the challenge of “levelling up” East Germany after 1989, and although a disparity remains, East Germany is now richer than much of Britain.

    Devolution to date has been minimal.
    Britain has pretty much the weakest local government in the OECD, and among the lowest levels of regional infrastructure investment.

    As a consequence it is perhaps the most regionally unequal country in the Western world, hugely expensive in terms of wasted human capital.
    I think the key point about successful regeneration is that there isn't a set formula; it's bespoke. It could be a regulatory or tax change like gambling in Atlantic City, or income taxes in Monaco, a new facility opening to provide new jobs, either directly in the case of a factory, or indirectly like a military base or tourist attraction. It could be striking oil, or gold. In each case, I still believe that giving councils or quangos wodges of money to chuck at the situation is not the right way to go about things.
    This is the devolution point, though.
    In essence we want Atlantic City to make its own decision - and the fiscal ability to make its own decision - to pursue gambling.

    No official in Whitehall is ever going to decide that Blackpool could be Lancashire’s answer to Macau.

    However, there are some things - like a proper Liverpool to Hull line - that require central government funding.
    I can see the argument, but the surrounding scenery of that political change must be taken into account. At the moment, we are an indebted, suffocatingly bureacratic, money-hemmoraging country. Further devolution to me seems to be a very quick way to become even more of all those things.
    Clearly what we're doing now isn't working, and the UK is very centralised as these things go.

    Where there is devolution, it's not that powerful and has little responsibility for its own income. It's more like central government doling out picket money and then hanging around to make sure it is spent in an acceptable way.

    Given all of that, it's a miracle that devolved and local governments don't do more low cost dumb gestures. (Yes I am looking at you Sturgeon.)

    Getting rid of the monitoring and (re)creating a culture where local areas can do what they like by raising the funds and winning their own electoral mandates seems worth trying.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 43,012

    Is Laura K even trying to be impartial anymore?

    Why do you say this?
    Her programme was literally three Tories
    Was it?
  • DavidL said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @Gabriel_Pogrund: NEW: Cabinet Office issues statement in response to Sharp story defending the “rigorous process”.

    However, it won’… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617177420163092480

    What an unbelievably stupid response. The fact is that having arranged a guarantee for the PM's £800k loan he was simply ineligible for the post. Which is presumably why he didn't disclose it at the time.
    From the advert for the post:

    "If there are any issues in your personal or professional history that could, if you were appointed, be misconstrued, cause embarrassment, or cause public confidence in the appointment to be jeopardised, it is important that you bring them to the attention of the Advisory Assessment Panel and provide details of the issue(s) in the statement supporting your application."

    Cabinet Office need to be clear as to whether Sharp's involvement was brought to the attention of the Panel. If not, then his position is untenable. If so, then the Panel have questions to answer as to how they could possibly have thought it was acceptable.

    The Cabinet Office can't come out with a statement leaving key questions unanswered - they need a complete response and haven't provided it.
  • TazTaz Posts: 6,594

    Is Laura K even trying to be impartial anymore?

    Why do you say this?
    Her programme was literally three Tories
    Was it?
    Yes, that well known Tory, former Lib Dem parliamentary candidate, Rachel Johnson.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 73,473
    edited January 22
    Taz said:

    Is Laura K even trying to be impartial anymore?

    Why do you say this?
    Her programme was literally three Tories
    Was it?
    Yes, that well known Tory, former Lib Dem parliamentary candidate, Rachel Johnson.
    Didn't she stand as Change UK at last GE, as Lib Dems weren't anti-Brexit enough for her?

    Its actually a good example of a wider problem, the media / political / senior civil servant class are all massively interrelated. These guests obviously would have been booked before the story broke, however, if I was the producer of the show when a story like this comes up, probably best to get a replacement guest.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 49,002
    Foxy said:

    I am about 2/3 of the way through the Audible version of Spare, read by Harry himself.

    Not my usual cup of tea, but it is surprisingly good. Truly warts and all, Harry is quite self critical at times, as well as self-pitying. While there are well publicised criticisms of a number of other Royals, there are quite complimentary passages too.

    The reviews have been generally positive.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 45,880

    DavidL said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @Gabriel_Pogrund: NEW: Cabinet Office issues statement in response to Sharp story defending the “rigorous process”.

    However, it won’… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617177420163092480

    What an unbelievably stupid response. The fact is that having arranged a guarantee for the PM's £800k loan he was simply ineligible for the post. Which is presumably why he didn't disclose it at the time.
    From the advert for the post:

    "If there are any issues in your personal or professional history that could, if you were appointed, be misconstrued, cause embarrassment, or cause public confidence in the appointment to be jeopardised, it is important that you bring them to the attention of the Advisory Assessment Panel and provide details of the issue(s) in the statement supporting your application."

    Cabinet Office need to be clear as to whether Sharp's involvement was brought to the attention of the Panel. If not, then his position is untenable. If so, then the Panel have questions to answer as to how they could possibly have thought it was acceptable.

    The Cabinet Office can't come out with a statement leaving key questions unanswered - they need a complete response and haven't provided it.
    If he didn't disclose it he should go. If he did they should go. Either way heads should roll for this.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,264
    DavidL said:

    If he didn't disclose it he should go. If he did they should go. Either way heads should roll for this.

    In 1997 the corridors of the BBC were lined with empty champagne bottles (allegedly)

    I don't see that happening this time...

    I am expecting a wholesale cull of Tory appointed quangocrats and other hangers on
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 73,473
    edited January 22
    Scott_xP said:

    DavidL said:

    If he didn't disclose it he should go. If he did they should go. Either way heads should roll for this.

    In 1997 the corridors of the BBC were lined with empty champagne bottles (allegedly)

    I don't see that happening this time...

    I am expecting a wholesale cull of Tory appointed quangocrats and other hangers on
    I am sure there will be similar scenes in the corridors of the BBC this time around (just some higher ups will be packing their bags). Keir Starmer is right inline with the general BBC groupthink, unlike Corbyn.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 11,576
    Scott_xP said:

    DavidL said:

    If he didn't disclose it he should go. If he did they should go. Either way heads should roll for this.

    In 1997 the corridors of the BBC were lined with empty champagne bottles (allegedly)

    I don't see that happening this time...

    I am expecting a wholesale cull of Tory appointed quangocrats and other hangers on
    No need for allegedly, it’s a direct quote from a BBC employee at the time.
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,260
    edited January 22
    I watch the Euronews channel occasionally and I'm always impressed by the Finnish PM. Not just because she's pretty, but because she's very bright. She could always made Bojo look the moron he is (not hard), and she has an acute feel for the realities of politics.

    When asked why her country had wanted to join NATO suddenly, she stated that the world had changed suddenly. I will try to summarise, but badly.

    Putin let slip in his lengthy rambling speech, a couple of days before he invaded Ukraine, that the Finnish border was no longer a border. Sweden had come to the same conclusion. Putin may have had the false smell of triumphalism in his nostrils, but he let slip his real intentions.

    Scholz may have a short memory but she hasn't. We have Rishi, seatbelt what seatbelt? and Keir, don't frighten the horses, Starmer. Even worse, we nearly had Jeremy, it's all NATO's fault, Corbyn. Can we swap them all for this impressive woman, please.

    She answers the questions asked, finishes the sentences, and will answer the questions that arise from her answer.

    Edit: She makes the men look useless, and it's embarrassing.




  • Taz said:

    Is Laura K even trying to be impartial anymore?

    Why do you say this?
    Her programme was literally three Tories
    Was it?
    Yes, that well known Tory, former Lib Dem parliamentary candidate, Rachel Johnson.
    She was never a Lib Dem parliamentary candidate. She joined the Lib Dems briefly in 2017, and said she was interested in standing somewhere, but never did and was never an approved candidate (as a member for under a year she wasn't qualified under the rules). She later went to ChangeUK and I believe is now back with the Tories (although it isn't 100% clear). Certainly, she's wheeled out to bat for her brother.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,264
    CD13 said:

    I watch the Euronews channel occasionally and I'm always impressed by the Finnish PM. Not just because she's pretty, but because she's very bright. She could always made Bojo look the moron he is (not hard), and she has an acute feel for the realities of politics.

    And she also knows how to party, without apparently breaking any laws...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 73,473
    edited January 22
    Scott_xP said:

    CD13 said:

    I watch the Euronews channel occasionally and I'm always impressed by the Finnish PM. Not just because she's pretty, but because she's very bright. She could always made Bojo look the moron he is (not hard), and she has an acute feel for the realities of politics.

    And she also knows how to party, without apparently breaking any laws...
    Her excuses were about as believable as Boris nonsense. I accidentally forgot my phone, I didn't see any drug taking going on etc etc etc.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 32,148
    OT - King Charles seems to be winning by saying nothing.

    The contrast, with the wind farm profits thing with the government is very sharp.

    If, as rumoured, he has eliminated an active role in the ceremony for the family, bar William, this will solve all the problems. I expect that an invite will be sent. And probably refused, with a claim that being eliminated from the ceremony is an attack….

    Off topic: in cocktail bar, just found a cocktail called the Nanjing Treaty. Have ordered one. Should I cancel myself, the bar or what?

    P.S. they also have “Pearl of The Orient”
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,260
    Mr Urquhat.

    "And she also knows how to party, without apparently breaking any laws."

    I'd forgive her.
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 4,298
    edited January 22
    Scott_xP said:

    DavidL said:

    If he didn't disclose it he should go. If he did they should go. Either way heads should roll for this.

    In 1997 the corridors of the BBC were lined with empty champagne bottles (allegedly)

    I don't see that happening this time...

    I am expecting a wholesale cull of Tory appointed quangocrats and other hangers on
    You shouldn't confuse staff with the Board. Sir Christopher Bland, the BBC Chairman in 1997, had been very active in Conservative politics earlier in his career (as a GLC member at one point, and senior in the Bow Group). He slightly distanced himself as he developed his career in ITV franchising, but very much wouldn't have been celebrating in May 1997.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 73,473
    Definitely a pineapple on pizza type.....

    Man blasted for putting CHEESE on his roast dinner
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11663581/Its-clearly-cry-help-Man-blasted-putting-CHEESE-roast-dinner.html
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 19,093
    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    Scott_xP said:

    @bbclaurak: 'Get it all out now' over tax affairs, Zahawi urged https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64364816

    I liked that in the interests of balance Laura's non- Conservative guest this morning was Boris Johnson's sister.


    Maybe you could get the chairman of the BBC to arrange a massive loan guarantee..?
    Johnson is going full on Churchill. He has even adopted the stooped gait. That's commitment for you.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 73,473
    What ever happened to Tony Blair's vision for the NHS computer systems....

    “Pointless” bureaucracy is helping hospitals grind to a halt, a leading doctor has warned.

    Dr Gordon Caldwell, who has just retired after 40 years as an NHS hospital consultant, said “horribly inefficient” paperwork around patients moving in and out of wards is fuelling record delays.

    The senior doctor took a photograph of all the forms required for one medical admission to an NHS hospital, laid against his 5ft 10in frame.

    Dr Caldwell said promises by the NHS to “digitise” the health service had simply seen needless bureaucracy transferred on to poor computer systems that were often incompatible with each other.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/21/pictured-doctor-shows-army-pointless-forms-burying-nhs-hospitals/
  • TazTaz Posts: 6,594

    Taz said:

    Is Laura K even trying to be impartial anymore?

    Why do you say this?
    Her programme was literally three Tories
    Was it?
    Yes, that well known Tory, former Lib Dem parliamentary candidate, Rachel Johnson.
    She was never a Lib Dem parliamentary candidate. She joined the Lib Dems briefly in 2017, and said she was interested in standing somewhere, but never did and was never an approved candidate (as a member for under a year she wasn't qualified under the rules). She later went to ChangeUK and I believe is now back with the Tories (although it isn't 100% clear). Certainly, she's wheeled out to bat for her brother.
    Yes, it was Change U.K. she stood for, not the Lib Dems.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 19,093

    Scott_xP said:

    @TelePolitics: 🔴 Voters believe Labour is twice as likely to cut taxes as the Conservatives, polling for The Telegraph reveals https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/21/labour-twice-likely-cut-taxes-conservatives-say-voters/

    Which makes it clear voters have forgotten what labour governments actually do.
    Says someone who supports a Government that has increased the tax burden to record levels for hard working British taxpayers.
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