Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too metropolitan liberal for that.
Kemi!
Possibly, though only Boris could really stir up the gammon anti Woke, or Farage.
Meanwhile a woman is arrested just for praying in a London street!
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I didn't know until today that Eric Stoltz was the original actor playing the protagonist in Back To The Future and that a lot of scenes were actually shot with him before it was decided to replace him with Michael J Fox.
One of those films that I don't think I've ever watched all the way through in one go. I've seen bits of it dozens of times, in all sorts of weird orders. Christmas dinner or opening presents has always got in the way. Mary Poppins is another example. Anyone else with the same thing?
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too metropolitan liberal for that.
Kemi!
Possibly, though only Boris could really stir up the gammon anti Woke, or Farage.
Meanwhile a woman is arrested just for praying in a London street!
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too metropolitan liberal for that.
Kemi!
Possibly, though only Boris could really stir up the gammon anti Woke, or Farage.
Meanwhile a woman is arrested just for praying in a London street!
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too metropolitan liberal for that.
Kemi!
Possibly, though only Boris could really stir up the gammon anti Woke, or Farage.
Meanwhile a woman is arrested just for praying in a London street!
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Oh dear, I fear you do actually believe this.
No one outside the loopy right gives a fuck about anything called 'Culture War' right now; the majority of voters wouldn't have a clue what the term meant.
People care about the cost of living, paying their bills, crap public services and Tory sleaze.
Er, I said
"It almost certainly won't work"
I am well aware this is not top of the inbox for 90% voters. Times are too hard and world politics too dramatic for Trans Rights to make a serious impact on the next election
In a less stressful time then it WILL work. See the USA, already
I'd say of my contemporaries (parents of teenagers and pre teens) it's an issue with a pretty high "I'm absolutely furious about this" factor. These are people for whom issues of wokery or culture wars won't really cross their agenda, but on the trans issue are firmly with JKR. Problem is, they're all lefties. JKR isn't going to vote Tory, and nor are any of my contemporaries.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
It's one poll to be fair albeit a very good one for Labour and the first showing them over 50% for a while.
Conservative mid term troughs usually flatten after 36 months after the election so this should be as bad as it gets but the degree of recovery is the big question. From the disastrous mid 1995 polls the Conservative recovery was slight - on the May 1995 locals, Labour were predicted to win over 400 seats and the Conservatives 150 which wasn't far off the truth.
I'd have loved to have seen polling from mid-1973 using today's more sophisticated sampling methodology - this was a time of big Liberal by-election wins.
As a counter point, the Conservatives were regularly third in polls in 1986 but in June 1987 won a majority of 101 seats.
Fair point about 1986/1987. I am racking my memory to try to recall what brought that change in the Tories' fortunes about but, nope, I really can't. It certainly happened though.
Neil Kinnock becoming PM?
And an economic boom...no chance of that now I suspect.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too metropolitan liberal for that.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too metropolitan liberal for that.
Kemi!
Possibly, though only Boris could really stir up the gammon anti Woke, or Farage.
Meanwhile a woman is arrested just for praying in a London street!
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Badenoch combines the modesty of Boris Johnson, the common touch of Rishi Sunak, the level headedness of Truss and the pragmatism of Steve Baker.
Ah, you're worried about her.
Interesting.
I suppose if she's one of 50 Conservative survivors after the next election no one will be worrying about her very much.
I see @Heathener still hasn't taken me up on my offer of a bet on this.
I hope she does, as she seems so confident and I'm sure she'd be willing to back that with cash.
The more relevant question is what happens to the Conservatives if/when they lose?
Let's be honest - they were completely ineffective in Opposition from 1997-2005. The coming of Cameron, the change from Blair to Brown and the global financial crash got them back in first contention and then office (albeit in coalition).
A lot will depend on the scale of the disaster - 250 MPs will mean a real chance of a quick return so the post-Sunak leader would likely be someone fairly senior as the next prospective Prime Minister. 150 MPs means a minimum of two terms out so skip a generation and go for someone who can rebuild. 50 MPs is existential - it's a fight for survival against the LDs, Reform and others.
50 MPs won't happen because at the end of the day the centre-right constituency in this country is far bigger than that.
I think political support these days is a mile wide but an inch deep. The key point to note is fluidity and change.
You're not wrong - call it volatility if you prefer.
I suspect the best hope for the Conservatives is for an uneventful 12-18 months - the best governance is often no governance (or at least nothing visible) and it's interesting to see Sunak seen much less than Truss or Johnson.
I agree 50 is very unlikely but I don't think 150 is inconceivable. This would, pace 1997, see the Party reduced to an English rural and suburban rump and the "way back" wouldn't be obvious.
I think the set of local elections in May which are barely four months away will be unpleasant for the Conservatives - less because they will lose large numbers of seats (they lost a lot last time these were contested in 2019) but because I suspect it will be a very good night for Labour (who also made a net loss in 2019 albeit much smaller).
I think Conservative weakness will be about as enduring as Labour strength.
We are dealing with a very frustrated and volatile electorate.
Labour were as unpopular in 2008/09 as the Conservatives are now. They won 24% in the local elections of 2008, 23% in 2009.
But they still returned 257 MPs in 2010.
I’d expect the Conservatives to clear 200 MP’s in 2024. Even now, the centre right is polling about 33-35%.
Total wipeouts only happen when a party is eclipsed by another party on its own side, like Labour replacing the Liberals.
Depends a lot on how much Farage and RefUK decide to twist the knife; Conservatives on low to mid 30s live to fight another day, but FPTP is brutal as a nationwide party's share falls from 30 to 25.
Even on those numbers the Conservatives would still be the main opposition. 6% RefUK for Sunak to squeeze too
It's a bit of a phony war at the moment, Hyufd, but if I were you there are two things that would bother me. The LDs are unlikely to poll that low at a GE and tactical voting is likely to hurt the Conservatives.
My money would be on a LabMaj, but tentatively this far out.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Oh dear, I fear you do actually believe this.
No one outside the loopy right gives a fuck about anything called 'Culture War' right now; the majority of voters wouldn't have a clue what the term meant.
People care about the cost of living, paying their bills, crap public services and Tory sleaze.
Er, I said
"It almost certainly won't work"
I am well aware this is not top of the inbox for 90% voters. Times are too hard and world politics too dramatic for Trans Rights to make a serious impact on the next election
In a less stressful time then it WILL work. See the USA, already
I'd say of my contemporaries (parents of teenagers and pre teens) it's an issue with a pretty high "I'm absolutely furious about this" factor. These are people for whom issues of wokery or culture wars won't really cross their agenda, but on the trans issue are firmly with JKR. Problem is, they're all lefties. JKR isn't going to vote Tory, and nor are any of my contemporaries.
Respectfully, I disagree. A lot of articulate centrist women are up in arms: see the op-ed pages of, say, the Times. Someone like Janice Turner
These are women who would normally be very tempted to vote for Starmer, and to switch from the rubbish Tories. This issue could galvanise them into sticking with Sunak and Hunt as being vaguely sane on TransWoke
Not enough to save an election, as I say. Might save seats
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And inherited with no pesky care home fees or iht to worry about, so had the capital to kick-start the transatlantic trade. A Tory fairy tale start to finish.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And inherited with no pesky care home fees or iht to worry about, so had the capital to kick-start the transatlantic trade. A Tory fairy tale start to finish.
Labour will pay for supporting Nicola Sturgeon’s trans crusade As a former Labour MP, I simply cannot explain why a party that once championed women's rights has so readily adopted this anti-women stance
Knew it'd be old Tommy, the only red thing about him nowadays is his face. SKS & co will be heartbroken that a former Labour MP who advised voters to back Boris has turned against them.
Tory Tom. I used to work beside his mother. She must be turning in her grave at his gradual movement to the right.
One would hope she wouldn't get that upset about her child making their own political choices.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too metropolitan liberal for that.
Kemi!
Possibly, though only Boris could really stir up the gammon anti Woke, or Farage.
Meanwhile a woman is arrested just for praying in a London street!
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
Yes, I’m sure you are right on this, as is Heathener.
On ghosts I am utterly fascinated, and have been all my life. I’m a massive skeptic, but I then have to confront the evidence of people like @RochdalePioneers, and things like the Battersea case and others. There is simply too much evidence that something is going on. And yet I cannot reconcile that with departed spirits.
I hope you enjoy the Uncanny pods - they are excellent, and having burned through them recently I was delighted to encounter the Christmas special today. Some of the cases are compelling - the Scottish bothy, the haunted Irish student accommodation etc. And now to be a TV series in the new year.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too metropolitan liberal for that.
Kemi!
Possibly, though only Boris could really stir up the gammon anti Woke, or Farage.
Meanwhile a woman is arrested just for praying in a London street!
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too metropolitan liberal for that.
Kemi!
Possibly, though only Boris could really stir up the gammon anti Woke, or Farage.
Meanwhile a woman is arrested just for praying in a London street!
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Oh dear, I fear you do actually believe this.
No one outside the loopy right gives a fuck about anything called 'Culture War' right now; the majority of voters wouldn't have a clue what the term meant.
People care about the cost of living, paying their bills, crap public services and Tory sleaze.
Er, I said
"It almost certainly won't work"
I am well aware this is not top of the inbox for 90% voters. Times are too hard and world politics too dramatic for Trans Rights to make a serious impact on the next election
In a less stressful time then it WILL work. See the USA, already
I'd say of my contemporaries (parents of teenagers and pre teens) it's an issue with a pretty high "I'm absolutely furious about this" factor. These are people for whom issues of wokery or culture wars won't really cross their agenda, but on the trans issue are firmly with JKR. Problem is, they're all lefties. JKR isn't going to vote Tory, and nor are any of my contemporaries.
Respectfully, I disagree. A lot of articulate centrist women are up in arms: see the op-ed pages of, say, the Times. Someone like Janice Turner
These are women who would normally be very tempted to vote for Starmer, and to switch from the rubbish Tories. This issue could galvanise them into sticking with Sunak and Hunt as being vaguely sane on TransWoke
Not enough to save an election, as I say. Might save seats
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
Yes, I’m sure you are right on this, as is Heathener.
On ghosts I am utterly fascinated, and have been all my life. I’m a massive skeptic, but I then have to confront the evidence of people like @RochdalePioneers, and things like the Battersea case and others. There is simply too much evidence that something is going on. And yet I cannot reconcile that with departed spirits.
I hope you enjoy the Uncanny pods - they are excellent, and having burned through them recently I was delighted to encounter the Christmas special today. Some of the cases are compelling - the Scottish bothy, the haunted Irish student accommodation etc. And now to be a TV series in the new year.
Was it you who recommended Danny Robbins and the Battersea Poltergeist? Thankyou so much!
Amazing. The slippers! And the levitation! I'm already on to episode 4, it is so well done. I am trying to resist bingeing the whole lot as the rest will be perfect for a long drive to Cornwall on Xmas Eve
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
How brief, btw? 2 days ago I was in fine fettle. Yesterday I had a light cough. I came home from the neighbourhood Christmas Eve singsong (a study in Britishness by itself) at about 8, feeling mildly below par, and by 9 I was feverish, nauseous, and coughing repeatedly. Threw up massively and repeatedly overnight like I haven't done for years (lamentably, we are without a loft at the moment where the spare bedroom is, so my wife ended up sleeping on middle daughter's top bunk.) This went on until about 1 o'clock today, when it ... stopped. I feel tired and weak and still have a bit of a cough but miraculously it feels as if the worst might be well over for Christmas. I've heard of people out of action for ten days or more with this but your mention of the word 'brief' gives me hope.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
Yes, I’m sure you are right on this, as is Heathener.
On ghosts I am utterly fascinated, and have been all my life. I’m a massive skeptic, but I then have to confront the evidence of people like @RochdalePioneers, and things like the Battersea case and others. There is simply too much evidence that something is going on. And yet I cannot reconcile that with departed spirits.
I hope you enjoy the Uncanny pods - they are excellent, and having burned through them recently I was delighted to encounter the Christmas special today. Some of the cases are compelling - the Scottish bothy, the haunted Irish student accommodation etc. And now to be a TV series in the new year.
Was it you who recommended Danny Robbins and the Battersea Poltergeist? Thankyou so much!
Amazing. The slippers! And the levitation! I'm already on to episode 4, it is so well done. I am trying to resist bingeing the whole lot as the rest will be perfect for a long drive to Cornwall on Xmas Eve
Not me - been a trying day (wife in hospital, but fine) so was catching up and hours behind. I was going to mention it but someone else got there first.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
It's what bothers me about the next two years. Because barring a miracle, Sunak won't call an election until he absolutely has to.
This desire to puke has overcome us when we're driving along the motorway and it's some distance to the next junction, let alone service area. Oh, and the traffic is crawling for some reason.
Hanging around for two difficult years when they are already this unpopular is likely to make the final denouement worse. It was definitely a factor in '97.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
He also pursued religious toleration with the Declaration of Indulgence and London was rebuilt so as to avoid future Plagues and with the new St Paul's
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
Hanging around for two difficult years when they are already this unpopular is likely to make the final denouement worse. It was definitely a factor in '97.
Probably, but when a loss seems inevitable what's the alternative? Going slightly earlier as you might suffer less is not going to sway them, and they will always be able to hope for a black swan.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
He also pursued religious toleration with the Declaration of Indulgence and London was rebuilt so as to avoid future Plagues and with the new St Paul's
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
How brief, btw? 2 days ago I was in fine fettle. Yesterday I had a light cough. I came home from the neighbourhood Christmas Eve singsong (a study in Britishness by itself) at about 8, feeling mildly below par, and by 9 I was feverish, nauseous, and coughing repeatedly. Threw up massively and repeatedly overnight like I haven't done for years (lamentably, we are without a loft at the moment where the spare bedroom is, so my wife ended up sleeping on middle daughter's top bunk.) This went on until about 1 o'clock today, when it ... stopped. I feel tired and weak and still have a bit of a cough but miraculously it feels as if the worst might be well over for Christmas. I've heard of people out of action for ten days or more with this but your mention of the word 'brief' gives me hope.
Mate, this sounds exactly like what I had. Came on quickly. In about 6 hours I went from feeling oddly fuzzy and flushed to puking my tits off and TOTAL SQUITS. Plus aches, pains, headaches, bed bound, the works
72 hours after THAT I am perfectly fine....
I suspect it was a winter vomiting thing. They are known to be acute but brief
As usual, take lots of rest, drink lots of water, avoid piracy, etc
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
He also pursued religious toleration with the Declaration of Indulgence and London was rebuilt so as to avoid future Plagues and with the new St Paul's
He didn't. Military occupation of much of Scotland. Atrocities and murders. Nasty piece of work.
Andz as for rebuilding St Paul's - that's wrong historically. He didn't. Different reign.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
It's what bothers me about the next two years. Because barring a miracle, Sunak won't call an election until he absolutely has to.
This desire to puke has overcome us when we're driving along the motorway and it's some distance to the next junction, let alone service area. Oh, and the traffic is crawling for some reason.
Hanging around for two difficult years when they are already this unpopular is likely to make the final denouement worse. It was definitely a factor in '97.
I don't think an election in 1995 woyld have been any worse than in 1997, to be honest.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
Hanging around for two difficult years when they are already this unpopular is likely to make the final denouement worse. It was definitely a factor in '97.
Probably, but when a loss seems inevitable what's the alternative? Going slightly earlier as you might suffer less is not going to sway them, and they will always be able to hope for a black swan.
There isn't really an alternative but to keep buggering on and hope that something turns up. It's the sort of dark punishment that Roald Dhal might have written about if he had ever done a political story.
Almost makes me wish Bozza was still PM, pressing the popularity buttons and finding they don't work...
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
It's what bothers me about the next two years. Because barring a miracle, Sunak won't call an election until he absolutely has to.
This desire to puke has overcome us when we're driving along the motorway and it's some distance to the next junction, let alone service area. Oh, and the traffic is crawling for some reason.
Hanging around for two difficult years when they are already this unpopular is likely to make the final denouement worse. It was definitely a factor in '97.
I entirely agree. I wish the Tories would eff off now. They need to lose (much as I despise Labour), they need to rethink what they are for, and Britain needs a break from their inner neuroses. And Labour might just have some fresh ideas. I'm not hopeful, but who knows
These last two years will feel like the last two seasons of House or Mad Men: contrived, wanky, pointless, exhausted, enough
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
Which just made his niece Queen, he having no legitimate heir.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
Which just made his niece Queen, he having no legitimate heir.
You must be reading different books from my history master - who was very good. In the ones I read, Charles II left James VII and II as a heir.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
Which just made his niece Queen, he having no legitimate heir.
You must be reading different books from my history master - who was very good. In the ones I read, Charles II left James VII and II as a heir.
And he was, you Scots were very loyal to him, see the Jacobite rebellions.
Though even George Ists mother had the same grandfather as Charles II ie James Ist of England and VIth of Scotland
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
Which just made his niece Queen, he having no legitimate heir.
You must be reading different books from my history master - who was very good. In the ones I read, Charles II left James VII and II as a heir.
And he was, you Scots were very loyal to him, see the Jacobite rebellions.
Though even George Ists mother had the same grandfather as Charles II ie James Ist of England and VIth of Scotland
Doesn't make Anne the heir of Charles II. Moving the goalpostds again.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
I didn't say it was a minor tweak (indeed, it was self described, accurately, as a revolutionary one). I deliberately included the word because, yes, the system as was did not survive.
However, HYUFD's basic point seemed to be that after Charles I we got a king again (albeit not right away de facto at least), and after Charles II/James II that was still true too. Those gleefully hoping for revolution against Charles III, by contrast, probably don't want him to be following by a king.
Therefore, if we get revolution against Charles III that ends with us still having a monarchy, HYUFD wins in the comparison stakes, even if it is a completely different kind of monarchy.
Edit: Yes, he moves goalposts more than a compulsive groundsman, but the initial jibe was about knowing what happened to Charles I, and whatever else happened, and there was a lot, in the end after several decades we got something that looks pretty similar (even though the power is very different).
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
He also pursued religious toleration with the Declaration of Indulgence and London was rebuilt so as to avoid future Plagues and with the new St Paul's
He didn't. Military occupation of much of Scotland. Atrocities and murders. Nasty piece of work.
Andz as for rebuilding St Paul's - that's wrong historically. He didn't. Different reign.
Charles II assigned Wren to rebuild St Paul's in 1669 and construction began in 1675 when he was still King
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
Which just made his niece Queen, he having no legitimate heir.
You must be reading different books from my history master - who was very good. In the ones I read, Charles II left James VII and II as a heir.
And he was, you Scots were very loyal to him, see the Jacobite rebellions.
Though even George Ists mother had the same grandfather as Charles II ie James Ist of England and VIth of Scotland
Doesn't make Anne the heir of Charles II. Moving the goalpostds again.
Mary you mean ie William and Mary. Anne came after
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
How brief, btw? 2 days ago I was in fine fettle. Yesterday I had a light cough. I came home from the neighbourhood Christmas Eve singsong (a study in Britishness by itself) at about 8, feeling mildly below par, and by 9 I was feverish, nauseous, and coughing repeatedly. Threw up massively and repeatedly overnight like I haven't done for years (lamentably, we are without a loft at the moment where the spare bedroom is, so my wife ended up sleeping on middle daughter's top bunk.) This went on until about 1 o'clock today, when it ... stopped. I feel tired and weak
and still have a bit of a cough but miraculously it
feels as if the worst might be well over for
Christmas. I've heard of people out of action for
ten days or more with this but your mention of the
word 'brief' gives me hope.
That sounds like norovirus to me. I’ve had it three times - you feel like you are dying for 12-15 hours. Then it’s gone. And once you have eaten again soon feels like you have never had it. Don’t go near anyone else as it’s insanely contagious.
Horrible, horrible experience. Glad you and @Leon have recovered.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
Which just made his niece Queen, he having no legitimate heir.
You must be reading different books from my history master - who was very good. In the ones I read, Charles II left James VII and II as a heir.
I don't think he was VII, the crowns having merged by then.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
It's what bothers me about the next two years. Because barring a miracle, Sunak won't call an election until he absolutely has to.
This desire to puke has overcome us when we're driving along the motorway and it's some distance to the next junction, let alone service area. Oh, and the traffic is crawling for some reason.
Hanging around for two difficult years when they are already this unpopular is likely to make the final denouement worse. It was definitely a factor in '97.
I don't think an election in 1995 woyld have been any worse than in 1997, to be honest.
It sounds like you've got this (I am pretty sure this is what I had)
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
I didn't say it was a minor tweak (indeed, it was self described, accurately, as a revolutionary one). I deliberately included the word because, yes, the system as was did not survive.
However, HYUFD's basic point seemed to be that after Charles I we got a king again (albeit not right away de factor at least), and after Charles II/James II that was still true too. Those gleefully hoping for revolution against Charles III, by contrast, probably don't want him to be following by a king.
Therefore, if we get revolution against Charles III that ends with us still having a monarchy, HYUFD wins in the comparison stakes, even if it is a completely different kind of monarchy.
Hmm, given that HYUFD's favourite Divine Right got flushed down the toilet permanently, and the MPs became top dogs, I think 'a few tweaks' is rather understating it. At least James VI could understand English.
How brief, btw? 2 days ago I was in fine fettle. Yesterday I had a light cough. I came home from the neighbourhood Christmas Eve singsong (a study in Britishness by itself) at about 8, feeling mildly below par, and by 9 I was feverish, nauseous, and coughing repeatedly. Threw up massively and repeatedly overnight like I haven't done for years (lamentably, we are without a loft at the moment where the spare bedroom is, so my wife ended up sleeping on middle daughter's top bunk.) This went on until about 1 o'clock today, when it ... stopped. I feel tired and weak and still have a bit of a cough but miraculously it feels as if the worst might be well over for Christmas. I've heard of people out of action for ten days or more with this but your mention of the word 'brief' gives me hope.
Mate, this sounds exactly like what I had. Came on quickly. In about 6 hours I went from feeling oddly fuzzy and flushed to puking my tits off and TOTAL SQUITS. Plus aches, pains, headaches, bed bound, the works
72 hours after THAT I am perfectly fine....
I suspect it was a winter vomiting thing. They are known to be acute but brief
As usual, take lots of rest, drink lots of water, avoid piracy, etc
Sounds like norovirus. I had that once, 24 hours before I was due at a job interview 100 miles away. I was up all night, as you describe, felt OK by 10 next morning, and drove over, hoping my sob story and devotion to attending would impress the panel. They were suitably sympathetic, but not quite enough to give me the job...
But if it's that, then it does clear properly after a day. Leon's advice sounds exactly right.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
It's what bothers me about the next two years. Because barring a miracle, Sunak won't call an election until he absolutely has to.
This desire to puke has overcome us when we're driving along the motorway and it's some distance to the next junction, let alone service area. Oh, and the traffic is crawling for some reason.
Hanging around for two difficult years when they are already this unpopular is likely to make the final denouement worse. It was definitely a factor in '97.
I don't think an election in 1995 woyld have been any worse than in 1997, to be honest.
It sounds like you've got this (I am pretty sure this is what I had)
Before he thinks I'm taking his side on this civil war era stuff I still haven't forgotten the claim that the Rump was basically the same as full Parliament taking action, even though that would be like claiming Trump could exclude all non Democrats from Congress and the decisions of the Congress would be no different than before the exclusion.
I, too, have finished for Xmas. It's been a long term. 3 PM's and two Monarchs long. I am not attending the "compulsory" morning tomorrow to "tidy up classrooms". They can put me on the staff for that. I feel a handy winter vomiting coming on...
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
Which just made his niece Queen, he having no legitimate heir.
You must be reading different books from my history master - who was very good. In the ones I read, Charles II left James VII and II as a heir.
I don't think he was VII, the crowns having merged by then.
He certainly was VII. The kingdom's hadn't. Standard terminology.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
I didn't say it was a minor tweak (indeed, it was self described, accurately, as a revolutionary one). I deliberately included the word because, yes, the system as was did not survive.
However, HYUFD's basic point seemed to be that after Charles I we got a king again (albeit not right away de factor at least), and after Charles II/James II that was still true too. Those gleefully hoping for revolution against Charles III, by contrast, probably don't want him to be following by a king.
Therefore, if we get revolution against Charles III that ends with us still having a monarchy, HYUFD wins in the comparison stakes, even if it is a completely different kind of monarchy.
Hmm, given that HYUFD's favourite Divine Right got flushed down the toilet permanently, and the MPs became top dogs, I think 'a few tweaks' is rather understating it. At least James VI could understand English.
It's not like people really believed in Divine Right even before that period - whatever they might have claimed it never prevented people rebelling against or ousting and killing kings they didn't like. Heck, it didn't stop people fighting against the Pope even. I'm not sure anyone but Charles I and Louis XIV ever really believed it.
Another reason any claim of it today would be laughable, if even a medieval Baron would have given it short shrift.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
Which just made his niece Queen, he having no legitimate heir.
You must be reading different books from my history master - who was very good. In the ones I read, Charles II left James VII and II as a heir.
I don't think he was VII, the crowns having merged by then.
He was. The crowns had merged but the parliaments hadn’t so still two separate states. See -
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
It's what bothers me about the next two years. Because barring a miracle, Sunak won't call an election until he absolutely has to.
This desire to puke has overcome us when we're driving along the motorway and it's some distance to the next junction, let alone service area. Oh, and the traffic is crawling for some reason.
Hanging around for two difficult years when they are already this unpopular is likely to make the final denouement worse. It was definitely a factor in '97.
I don't think an election in 1995 woyld have been any worse than in 1997, to be honest.
It sounds like you've got this (I am pretty sure this is what I had)
One thing I learned belatedly on my third bout was that the vomit itself carries the bug. It’s a horrible topic but worth knowing about for those with families. You have to be VERY careful.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
It's what bothers me about the next two years. Because barring a miracle, Sunak won't call an election until he absolutely has to.
This desire to puke has overcome us when we're driving along the motorway and it's some distance to the next junction, let alone service area. Oh, and the traffic is crawling for some reason.
Hanging around for two difficult years when they are already this unpopular is likely to make the final denouement worse. It was definitely a factor in '97.
I don't think an election in 1995 woyld have been any worse than in 1997, to be honest.
It sounds like you've got this (I am pretty sure this is what I had)
One thing I learned belatedly on my third bout was that the vomit itself carries the bug. It’s a horrible topic but worth knowing about for those with families. You have to be VERY careful.
That's good to know
It actually FEELS infectious. Like you should hide away, as a leper. Which is what I did. Not that I exactly wanted to go clubbing...
Happily, the recovery is as remarkable in its expediency as the onset
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Oh dear, I fear you do actually believe this.
No one outside the loopy right gives a fuck about anything called 'Culture War' right now; the majority of voters wouldn't have a clue what the term meant.
People care about the cost of living, paying their bills, crap public services and Tory sleaze.
Er, I said
"It almost certainly won't work"
I am well aware this is not top of the inbox for 90% voters. Times are too hard and world politics too dramatic for Trans Rights to make a serious impact on the next election
In a less stressful time then it WILL work. See the USA, already
Fair enough, my mistake.
I misunderstood "The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War" as implying that you think an ENORMOUS Culture War can save the Tories. ;-)
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
I didn't say it was a minor tweak (indeed, it was self described, accurately, as a revolutionary one). I deliberately included the word because, yes, the system as was did not survive.
However, HYUFD's basic point seemed to be that after Charles I we got a king again (albeit not right away de factor at least), and after Charles II/James II that was still true too. Those gleefully hoping for revolution against Charles III, by contrast, probably don't want him to be following by a king.
Therefore, if we get revolution against Charles III that ends with us still having a monarchy, HYUFD wins in the comparison stakes, even if it is a completely different kind of monarchy.
Hmm, given that HYUFD's favourite Divine Right got flushed down the toilet permanently, and the MPs became top dogs, I think 'a few tweaks' is rather understating it. At least James VI could understand English.
It's not like people really believed in Divine Right even before that period - whatever they might have claimed it never prevented people rebelling against or ousting and killing kings they didn't like. Heck, it didn't stop people fighting against the Pope even. I'm not sure anyone but Charles I and Louis XIV ever really believed it.
Another reason any claim of it today would be laughable, if even a medieval Baron would have given it short shrift.
James 6/1 wrote, literally, the book about it.
"The state of monarchy is the supremest thing upon earth; for kings are not only God's lieutenants upon earth, and sit upon God's throne, but even by God himself are called gods." Etc etc.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too elite metropolitan liberal for that.
Johnson is the biggest metropolitan elite liberal out there. He barely knows Britain outside London exists, which is why he threw Northern Ireland under the bus.
He's also a complete pseud who cons people into thinking otherwise if they don't bother to engage their critical faculties.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
I think it will not happen for them while there is so much bad news. Strikes, CoL, Ukraine etc. It may take until Labour are forced to show their hand with actual policies before people see that they don’t have all the answers either. But I think things will close up to some extent before the election.
During my brief winter stomach flu, the other day, I spent 20 minutes over the toilet pan puking my guts up. Yuk
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
It's what bothers me about the next two years. Because barring a miracle, Sunak won't call an election until he absolutely has to.
This desire to puke has overcome us when we're driving along the motorway and it's some distance to the next junction, let alone service area. Oh, and the traffic is crawling for some reason.
Hanging around for two difficult years when they are already this unpopular is likely to make the final denouement worse. It was definitely a factor in '97.
I don't think an election in 1995 woyld have been any worse than in 1997, to be honest.
It sounds like you've got this (I am pretty sure this is what I had)
One thing I learned belatedly on my third bout was that the vomit itself carries the bug. It’s a horrible topic but worth knowing about for those with families. You have to be VERY careful.
That's good to know
It actually FEELS infectious. Like you should hide
away, as a leper. Which is what I did. Not that I exactly wanted to go clubbing...
Happily, the recovery is as remarkable in its expediency as the onset
RIGHT: on to the next spooky podcast
It really is extraordinary how quickly it comes on then goes. A bizarre bug.
Enjoy the ghosts. I ‘liked’ your reply earlier re: ghosts vs trans. Fair point.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
It's one poll to be fair albeit a very good one for Labour and the first showing them over 50% for a while.
Conservative mid term troughs usually flatten after 36 months after the election so this should be as bad as it gets but the degree of recovery is the big question. From the disastrous mid 1995 polls the Conservative recovery was slight - on the May 1995 locals, Labour were predicted to win over 400 seats and the Conservatives 150 which wasn't far off the truth.
I'd have loved to have seen polling from mid-1973 using today's more sophisticated sampling methodology - this was a time of big Liberal by-election wins.
As a counter point, the Conservatives were regularly third in polls in 1986 but in June 1987 won a majority of 101 seats.
Fair point about 1986/1987. I am racking my memory to try to recall what brought that change in the Tories' fortunes about but, nope, I really can't. It certainly happened though.
Neil Kinnock becoming PM?
Indeed. It's all coming painfully back to me now.
So here's the question, how does Starmer fare compared with Kinnock?
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
It's one poll to be fair albeit a very good one for Labour and the first showing them over 50% for a while.
Conservative mid term troughs usually flatten after 36 months after the election so this should be as bad as it gets but the degree of recovery is the big question. From the disastrous mid 1995 polls the Conservative recovery was slight - on the May 1995 locals, Labour were predicted to win over 400 seats and the Conservatives 150 which wasn't far off the truth.
I'd have loved to have seen polling from mid-1973 using today's more sophisticated sampling methodology - this was a time of big Liberal by-election wins.
As a counter point, the Conservatives were regularly third in polls in 1986 but in June 1987 won a majority of 101 seats.
Fair point about 1986/1987. I am racking my memory to try to recall what brought that change in the Tories' fortunes about but, nope, I really can't. It certainly happened though.
Neil Kinnock becoming PM?
Indeed. It's all coming painfully back to me now.
So here's the question, how does Starmer fare compared with Kinnock?
Better, like Blair swing voters aren't desperate to keep him out of No 10 as they were for Kinnock, Corbyn, Foot and Ed Miliband
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too elite metropolitan liberal for that.
Johnson is the biggest metropolitan elite liberal out there. He barely knows Britain outside London exists, which is why he threw Northern Ireland under the bus.
He's also a complete pseud who cons people into thinking otherwise if they don't bother to engage their critical faculties.
I’m not sure what else he could do re NI. Squaring both Brexit and the GFA were essentially impossible if we left the single market. If we didn’t leave the single market, the Brexit were would have revolted. So here we are… Both sides have use NI as a weapon, but ironically for traders in NI it’s the best of both worlds.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
It's one poll to be fair albeit a very good one for Labour and the first showing them over 50% for a while.
Conservative mid term troughs usually flatten after 36 months after the election so this should be as bad as it gets but the degree of recovery is the big question. From the disastrous mid 1995 polls the Conservative recovery was slight - on the May 1995 locals, Labour were predicted to win over 400 seats and the Conservatives 150 which wasn't far off the truth.
I'd have loved to have seen polling from mid-1973 using today's more sophisticated sampling methodology - this was a time of big Liberal by-election wins.
As a counter point, the Conservatives were regularly third in polls in 1986 but in June 1987 won a majority of 101 seats.
Fair point about 1986/1987. I am racking my memory to try to recall what brought that change in the Tories' fortunes about but, nope, I really can't. It certainly happened though.
Neil Kinnock becoming PM?
Indeed. It's all coming painfully back to me now.
So here's the question, how does Starmer fare compared with Kinnock?
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
I'm going to have so much fun at the coronation pointing out the hypocrisy of the adulterers.
He was trying to disrupt the proclamation of our new King, treason in a previous age. He got off lightly
Don't worry the revolution is coming.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
His son succeeded him as King at the Restoration?
And screwed up big time in all sorts of ways (including screwing tout court). Foreign policy, leaving an insecure heir who promptly restarted the Civil Wars of Britain and Ireland, spending vast sums on the Navy and then leaving the job undone, and so on and so forth. I'd be ashamed to bear his name.
Yet the system, with tweaks, survived. So I think HYUFD still wins the round when people try to use the 'look at previous Charles' thing as a motivator.
The point is that the system did not survive, because he screwed up the succession completely and left a huge mess. They had to tear it up, and get a foreign invasion to start again.
Most important role of a king in those days.
Which just made his niece Queen, he having no legitimate heir.
You must be reading different books from my history master - who was very good. In the ones I read, Charles II left James VII and II as a heir.
I don't think he was VII, the crowns having merged by then.
He was. The crowns had merged but the parliaments hadn’t so still two separate states. See -
Just watched the Wagatha dramatisation on C4 (Vardy v Rooney: A Courtroom Drama). Quite enjoyed it - great performances from Natalia Tena and Chanel Cresswell.
One interesting aspect was the number of potential witnesses who did not take the stand. Am I right in thinking no one can be compelled to stand as a witness?
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too elite metropolitan liberal for that.
Johnson is the biggest metropolitan elite liberal out there. He barely knows Britain outside London exists, which is why he threw Northern Ireland under the bus.
He's also a complete pseud who cons people into thinking otherwise if they don't bother to engage their critical faculties.
Only in the sense he was London based as Trump was New York City based.
Culturally however his values like Trump's are now totally those of the white working classes.
Sunak and Hunt however are still culturally liberal West London, posh Home counties
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too elite metropolitan liberal for that.
Johnson is the biggest metropolitan elite liberal out there. He barely knows Britain outside London exists, which is why he threw Northern Ireland under the bus.
He's also a complete pseud who cons people into thinking otherwise if they don't bother to engage their critical faculties.
I’m not sure what else he could do re NI. Squaring both Brexit and the GFA were essentially impossible if we left the single market. If we didn’t leave the single market, the Brexit were would have revolted. So here we are… Both sides have use NI as a weapon, but ironically for traders in NI it’s the best of both worlds.
May's deal came far closer to squaring the circle than his did.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too elite metropolitan liberal for that.
Johnson is the biggest metropolitan elite liberal out there. He barely knows Britain outside London exists, which is why he threw Northern Ireland under the bus.
He's also a complete pseud who cons people into thinking otherwise if they don't bother to engage their critical faculties.
I’m not sure what else he could do re NI. Squaring both Brexit and the GFA were essentially impossible if we left the single market. If we didn’t leave the single market, the Brexit were would have revolted. So here we are… Both sides have use NI as a weapon, but ironically for traders in NI it’s the best of both worlds.
May's deal came far closer to squaring the circle than his did.
I think we’d all be better off if that had passed. I think the Attorney General ruling that there was no unilateral exit for the U.K. killed it though. A great shame.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too elite metropolitan liberal for that.
Johnson is the biggest metropolitan elite liberal out there. He barely knows Britain outside London exists, which is why he threw Northern Ireland under the bus.
He's also a complete pseud who cons people into thinking otherwise if they don't bother to engage their critical faculties.
Only in the sense he was London based as Trump was New York City based.
Culturally however his values like Trump's are now totally those of the white working classes.
Sunak and Hunt however are still culturally liberal West London, posh Home counties
Bullshit. He's a posh Home Counties twat who's lived in London all his life. He's absolutely imbued with their values and ideals. He just pretends otherwise. Very successfully, but it's still a pretence.
The fact that some people can't see it merely confirms my opinion that there are some right thickos out there.
No sign of the Tories clawing their way back then.
The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War, with the Left as the diseased Woke people who will brainwash our gallant sons and sacrifice our white daughters etc
It almost certainly won't work, and will definitely be ugly, but they will have a go. Sturgeon has just helped
Only one who could do that really is Boris.
Sunak and Hunt are far too elite metropolitan liberal for that.
Johnson is the biggest metropolitan elite liberal out there. He barely knows Britain outside London exists, which is why he threw Northern Ireland under the bus.
He's also a complete pseud who cons people into thinking otherwise if they don't bother to engage their critical faculties.
Only in the sense he was London based as Trump was New York City based.
Culturally however his values like Trump's are now totally those of the white working classes.
Sunak and Hunt however are still culturally liberal West London, posh Home counties
Wow.
The expression "useful idiot" is inadmissible in polite discourse, but there's times one wishes for an acceptable substitute.
Yesterday, I was charged with breach of the Public Order Act for my objection in #Oxford in September to the proclamation of Charles Windsor as king (the police waited 3 months before charging me). I will be in court on 31st January to plead Not Guilty.
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It says so much about the adulterer King Charles.
We all know what happened to the first King Charles.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/isabel-vaughan-spruce-45-charged-25794626
Problem is, they're all lefties. JKR isn't going to vote Tory, and nor are any of my contemporaries.
It was quite painful and messy - the first time I've seriously thrown up for many years. But even as I convulsed and vomited, I could feel my body saying "Yes, this is good, get rid of this, we don't want this". Before anything else happened, before I could think of recovery, whatever was inside me needed to be gone
Britain feels like that, as a body politic. Before we can do anything, we need to puke up the Tories, they have poisoned us, they are bad fungi dissolving in the stomach, ugh yuk no
Once we are purged of them, the UK might begin to repair itself (perhaps under a future Tory govt, after a period of Opposition, who knows) . But they need to go first; and they will go
My money would be on a LabMaj, but tentatively this far out.
These are women who would normally be very tempted to vote for Starmer, and to switch from the rubbish Tories. This issue could galvanise them into sticking with Sunak and Hunt as being vaguely sane on TransWoke
Not enough to save an election, as I say. Might save seats
On ghosts I am utterly fascinated, and have been all my life. I’m a massive skeptic, but I then have to confront the evidence of people like @RochdalePioneers, and things like the Battersea case and others. There is simply too much evidence that something is going on. And yet I cannot reconcile that with departed spirits.
I hope you enjoy the Uncanny pods - they are excellent, and having burned through them recently I was delighted to encounter the Christmas special today. Some of the cases are compelling - the Scottish bothy, the haunted Irish student accommodation etc. And now to be a TV series in the new year.
Still not a great look, arresting her - on appearances - for "praying in her mind"
Amazing. The slippers! And the levitation! I'm already on to episode 4, it is so well done. I am trying to resist bingeing the whole lot as the rest will be perfect for a long drive to Cornwall on Xmas Eve
I believe in free speech, with limits. He did nothing wrong, the police acted to prevent harm (potentially to him). That should be an end to it.
Plus, Charles I was probably faithful, which is unusual for kings.
Edit: Have you had a chance to read Killers of the King, or The Tyrannicide Brief yet? Good reads.
2 days ago I was in fine fettle.
Yesterday I had a light cough. I came home from the neighbourhood Christmas Eve singsong (a study in Britishness by itself) at about 8, feeling mildly below par, and by 9 I was feverish, nauseous, and coughing repeatedly. Threw up massively and repeatedly overnight like I haven't done for years (lamentably, we are without a loft at the moment where the spare bedroom is, so my wife ended up sleeping on middle daughter's top bunk.) This went on until about 1 o'clock today, when it ... stopped. I feel tired and weak and still have a bit of a cough but miraculously it feels as if the worst might be well over for Christmas. I've heard of people out of action for ten days or more with this but your mention of the word 'brief' gives me hope.
This desire to puke has overcome us when we're driving along the motorway and it's some distance to the next junction, let alone service area. Oh, and the traffic is crawling for some reason.
Hanging around for two difficult years when they are already this unpopular is likely to make the final denouement worse. It was definitely a factor in '97.
https://twitter.com/Omnisis/status/1605975168664211458
https://twitter.com/Omnisis/status/1605975175345737730?t=-pPxIAPkcV0ZpxAgvxUCiA&s=19
72 hours after THAT I am perfectly fine....
I suspect it was a winter vomiting thing. They are known to be acute but brief
As usual, take lots of rest, drink lots of water, avoid piracy, etc
Andz as for rebuilding St Paul's - that's wrong historically. He didn't. Different reign.
More likely October catch up after the Royal funeral.
Almost makes me wish Bozza was still PM, pressing the popularity buttons and finding they don't work...
Most important role of a king in those days.
These last two years will feel like the last two seasons of House or Mad Men: contrived, wanky, pointless, exhausted, enough
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-rape-russian-soldier-wife-bykovsky/31805486.html
Though even George Ists mother had the same grandfather as Charles II ie James Ist of England and VIth of Scotland
https://twitter.com/StateOfLinkedIn/status/1600152621938900992?t=X5UTg4wTWPjllwuonI7kZg&s=19
However, HYUFD's basic point seemed to be that after Charles I we got a king again (albeit not right away de facto at least), and after Charles II/James II that was still true too. Those gleefully hoping for revolution against Charles III, by contrast, probably don't want him to be following by a king.
Therefore, if we get revolution against Charles III that ends with us still having a monarchy, HYUFD wins in the comparison stakes, even if it is a completely different kind of monarchy.
Edit: Yes, he moves goalposts more than a compulsive groundsman, but the initial jibe was about knowing what happened to Charles I, and whatever else happened, and there was a lot, in the end after several decades we got something that looks pretty similar (even though the power is very different).
https://prehistoric-fauna.com/Pontolis-magnus
Horrible, horrible experience. Glad you and @Leon have recovered.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/norovirus/
Good news:
"It can be very unpleasant, but usually goes away in about 2 days."
Which is exactly what happened to me. Really not nice, but gone quickly. There is quite a lot of it about
https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/20801022/norovirus-increase-warning/
But if it's that, then it does clear properly after a day. Leon's advice sounds exactly right.
3 PM's and two Monarchs long.
I am not attending the "compulsory" morning tomorrow to "tidy up classrooms". They can put me on the staff for that. I feel a handy winter vomiting coming on...
Another reason any claim of it today would be laughable, if even a medieval Baron would have given it short shrift.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/2009/page/1/data.pdf
It actually FEELS infectious. Like you should hide away, as a leper. Which is what I did. Not that I exactly wanted to go clubbing...
Happily, the recovery is as remarkable in its expediency as the onset
RIGHT: on to the next spooky podcast
I misunderstood "The only thing that can save the Tories is an ENORMOUS Culture War" as implying that you think an ENORMOUS Culture War can save the Tories. ;-)
"The state of monarchy is the supremest thing upon earth; for kings are not only God's lieutenants upon earth, and sit upon God's throne, but even by God himself are called gods." Etc etc.
He's also a complete pseud who cons people into thinking otherwise if they don't bother to engage their critical faculties.
Enjoy the ghosts. I ‘liked’ your reply earlier re: ghosts vs trans. Fair point.
So here's the question, how does Starmer fare compared with Kinnock?
So here we are… Both sides have use NI as a weapon, but ironically for traders in NI it’s the best of both worlds.
One interesting aspect was the number of potential witnesses who did not take the stand. Am I right in thinking no one can be compelled to stand as a witness?
Culturally however his values like Trump's are now totally those of the white working classes.
Sunak and Hunt however are still culturally liberal West London, posh Home counties
The fact that some people can't see it merely confirms my opinion that there are some right thickos out there.
The expression "useful idiot" is inadmissible in polite discourse, but there's times one wishes for an acceptable substitute.