Not sure 9/11 really makes the cut. Like saving private Ryan and pearl harbor the cinematic centrepiece is so mind-blowing it obscures a pretty ordinary narrative.
I think there's an analogy with Pearl Harbor - Americans liked to think they were somehow invulnerable but 9/11 dispelled that with a vengeance. For London, 7/7 was awful but we'd lived with terror for nearly 40 years though not suicide bombers which was the new dimension.
It impacted American policy directly not only through the eventual Iraq invasion in 2003 and the cover the Bin Laden attacks but also the money successive Republican legislatures poured into defence (and the profits made by defence contractors) came home to roost when the Democrats won the House in 2006 and the extent of the economic exposure became clear.
I genuinely think there was a brief period of euphoria (remember Fukayama) in the early 90s where it was believed we now lived in a unipolar world where the triumph of western liberal democracy was inevitable. The reality of the conflicts which had in some ways been masked by Soviet imperialism was then uncovered as Moscow withdrew from Europe and Africa.
Fukayama lol, that End of History stuff was always hubristic nonsense
Worrying that when I start typing his name phone now autocorrects to fuck.
Read the book. There's nothing hubristic about it. 30 years later has anyone come up with a compelling alternative to liberal democracy? No.
Liberal democracy is Monty Python's black knight. You can be as compelled by it as you like, but it has given way to plutocratic demagoguery here, it is history in the US when Trump gets back in, India is under a racist tyrant and it doesn't seem to have been very good at displacing communism anywhere since 1989. Where has it triumphed?
Ditto "liberal capitalism" but more so. It has been shown since Fukuyama to be humanity's worst mistake. Either it destroys the planet via climate change or climate change destroys it. Because Truss was sort of right, enemies Of Growth are a thing and getting progressively thingier, because they have the only position it is rationally possible to have.
I’d say liberal capitalism is doing a pretty decent job of (finally) mitigating climate change through the twin forces of the market and democratic pressure.
We haven't mitigated it yet, have we? Bookmark this conv for 10 years time.
China is way ahead of most of the democratic world both on decarbonising itself and in design mfr and export of renewables kit, so not a huge win for liberalism there.
Whether through eugenic mating or cosmetic surgery, China is also producing more HOT TEEN GIRLS
The West is totally finished
and a big factor in male motivation to work is hot young women....if you are a young man surrounded by obese women i think you are much less likely to work hard than if you are surrounded by hot young women....it is human nature in action.....
So let’s compare the performance of the Russian army vs, say, the US one?
Yes but that is because russia is technologically inferior to the usa...if technology was equal i think the russians would win as russians are more willing to die
Willingness to die is an overrated attribute. It means the whole military apparatus isn’t set up to preserve life and health, and ultimately that means hanging people out to dry.
No doubt there have been criticisms of some generals in history for being too keen to preserve the lives of their troop, as if it is somehow cheating.
I mean, sure, you have to take risks in war I would guess, but fanatical stubborness only gets you so far I assume.
Several generals in the US Civil War were sacked for it. McLellan, whom Lincoln dismissed with the words 'if you don't want to use the army, I should like to borrow it for a while,' and Davis dismissed Joe Johnson of the Confederate army for refusing to engage the numerically superior army under Sherman while at a disadvantage of ground.
Then you have the Duke of Wellington, whose political opponents were highly critical of his constant retreats, yet somehow failed to notice he never lost a battle and conquered Spain and France as a result.
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I honestly think an american civil war would lead to a british civil war along similar lines...woke leftists vs the white working class...
I honestly think you're living in a fantasy world of your own.
I spent a brief moment at a pub this afternoon with a nice pint of Harvey’s best, and they were playing Jerry Rafferty - Baker Street. It struck me as being the ultimate autumn Sunday afternoon pub track. I had an almost Proustian response to it.
It was one of very few tracks that is absolutely perfect in every respect.
Pretty much the only other one being Sultans of Swing from I think the same year?
JR was an unhappy character.
GR!
Bit of a see u next Tuesday when on the bevvy I believe.
Gonna see the Fratellis next week talking of edgy central belt music.
Get your skinny jeans and winklepickers laid out. Haven’t kept up with them lately but liked them when I did.
Got tickets for Peat and Diesel for the new year for a bit of Lewis and Harris edginess, chuffed as they always seem to sell out in a flash.
Wilco, polishing up the snip toe Tony Lamas.
As with Del Amitri they deserved to make it bigger than they did. In theory they are supporting Kaiser Chiefs, to me it's other way round.
Del Amitri were great. Four or five classic songs
Their problem was that they arrived in a time of Pop Music Plenty, when there was so much talent exploding everywhere, some really good stuff was sneglected
That said, Wiki says they sold "6 million albums" which is pretty bloody impressive, so yay Del Amitri
I know there are related contingencies going on so it is not as clear as I am making it out but the Senate Control and Senate State markets are out of whack on Betfair.
Currently punters are giving the GOP a 66% chance of winning control of the Senate.
But if you look at the odds for
Georgia Nevada Pennsylvania Arizona
(Which are realistically the only states that matter for the purpose of the bet given how far out Dems are on any other state - and even ignores that absolute wild card of New Hampshire which is in the mix).
Based on these states Betfair is giving the GOP a >80% chance of controlling the senate (i.e. Retain Pennsylvania and take at least 1 of the remaining 3 or lose Pennsylvania and take at least 2 of the remaining 3).
It does very much seem like the value bet is currently betting on GOP Senate control.
this might be because of Utah where a Conservative leaning independent is putting up a reasonably good challenge to the republican incumbent, and the democrats are not running a candidate.
I don't think he is odds on to win but it might crate a difference between Number of seats and control of seniti?
My man Evan McMuffin is doing way better than I expected but he's like at 15s on Betfair and I expect him to finish at least 10 points behind and more like 15 poonts behind at best.
Not sure 9/11 really makes the cut. Like saving private Ryan and pearl harbor the cinematic centrepiece is so mind-blowing it obscures a pretty ordinary narrative.
I think there's an analogy with Pearl Harbor - Americans liked to think they were somehow invulnerable but 9/11 dispelled that with a vengeance. For London, 7/7 was awful but we'd lived with terror for nearly 40 years though not suicide bombers which was the new dimension.
It impacted American policy directly not only through the eventual Iraq invasion in 2003 and the cover the Bin Laden attacks but also the money successive Republican legislatures poured into defence (and the profits made by defence contractors) came home to roost when the Democrats won the House in 2006 and the extent of the economic exposure became clear.
I genuinely think there was a brief period of euphoria (remember Fukayama) in the early 90s where it was believed we now lived in a unipolar world where the triumph of western liberal democracy was inevitable. The reality of the conflicts which had in some ways been masked by Soviet imperialism was then uncovered as Moscow withdrew from Europe and Africa.
Fukayama lol, that End of History stuff was always hubristic nonsense
Worrying that when I start typing his name phone now autocorrects to fuck.
Read the book. There's nothing hubristic about it. 30 years later has anyone come up with a compelling alternative to liberal democracy? No.
Liberal democracy is Monty Python's black knight. You can be as compelled by it as you like, but it has given way to plutocratic demagoguery here, it is history in the US when Trump gets back in, India is under a racist tyrant and it doesn't seem to have been very good at displacing communism anywhere since 1989. Where has it triumphed?
Ditto "liberal capitalism" but more so. It has been shown since Fukuyama to be humanity's worst mistake. Either it destroys the planet via climate change or climate change destroys it. Because Truss was sort of right, enemies Of Growth are a thing and getting progressively thingier, because they have the only position it is rationally possible to have.
I’d say liberal capitalism is doing a pretty decent job of (finally) mitigating climate change through the twin forces of the market and democratic pressure.
We haven't mitigated it yet, have we? Bookmark this conv for 10 years time.
China is way ahead of most of the democratic world both on decarbonising itself and in design mfr and export of renewables kit, so not a huge win for liberalism there.
Whether through eugenic mating or cosmetic surgery, China is also producing more HOT TEEN GIRLS
The West is totally finished
and a big factor in male motivation to work is hot young women....if you are a young man surrounded by obese women i think you are much less likely to work hard than if you are surrounded by hot young women....it is human nature in action.....
So let’s compare the performance of the Russian army vs, say, the US one?
Yes but that is because russia is technologically inferior to the usa...if technology was equal i think the russians would win as russians are more willing to die
Willingness to die is an overrated attribute. It means the whole military apparatus isn’t set up to preserve life and health, and ultimately that means hanging people out to dry.
No doubt there have been criticisms of some generals in history for being too keen to preserve the lives of their troop, as if it is somehow cheating.
I mean, sure, you have to take risks in war I would guess, but fanatical stubborness only gets you so far I assume.
Several generals in the US Civil War were sacked for it. McLellan, whom Lincoln dismissed with the words 'if you don't want to use the army, I should like to borrow it for a while,' and Davis dismissed Joe Johnson of the Confederate army for refusing to engage the numerically superior army under Sherman while at a disadvantage of ground.
Then you have the Duke of Wellington, whose political opponents were highly critical of his constant retreats, yet somehow failed to notice he never lost a battle and conquered Spain and France as a result.
I find military strategy fascinating...like a combination of chess and poker with much bluffing and deception...
Not sure 9/11 really makes the cut. Like saving private Ryan and pearl harbor the cinematic centrepiece is so mind-blowing it obscures a pretty ordinary narrative.
I think there's an analogy with Pearl Harbor - Americans liked to think they were somehow invulnerable but 9/11 dispelled that with a vengeance. For London, 7/7 was awful but we'd lived with terror for nearly 40 years though not suicide bombers which was the new dimension.
It impacted American policy directly not only through the eventual Iraq invasion in 2003 and the cover the Bin Laden attacks but also the money successive Republican legislatures poured into defence (and the profits made by defence contractors) came home to roost when the Democrats won the House in 2006 and the extent of the economic exposure became clear.
I genuinely think there was a brief period of euphoria (remember Fukayama) in the early 90s where it was believed we now lived in a unipolar world where the triumph of western liberal democracy was inevitable. The reality of the conflicts which had in some ways been masked by Soviet imperialism was then uncovered as Moscow withdrew from Europe and Africa.
Fukayama lol, that End of History stuff was always hubristic nonsense
Worrying that when I start typing his name phone now autocorrects to fuck.
Read the book. There's nothing hubristic about it. 30 years later has anyone come up with a compelling alternative to liberal democracy? No.
Liberal democracy is Monty Python's black knight. You can be as compelled by it as you like, but it has given way to plutocratic demagoguery here, it is history in the US when Trump gets back in, India is under a racist tyrant and it doesn't seem to have been very good at displacing communism anywhere since 1989. Where has it triumphed?
Ditto "liberal capitalism" but more so. It has been shown since Fukuyama to be humanity's worst mistake. Either it destroys the planet via climate change or climate change destroys it. Because Truss was sort of right, enemies Of Growth are a thing and getting progressively thingier, because they have the only position it is rationally possible to have.
I’d say liberal capitalism is doing a pretty decent job of (finally) mitigating climate change through the twin forces of the market and democratic pressure.
We haven't mitigated it yet, have we? Bookmark this conv for 10 years time.
China is way ahead of most of the democratic world both on decarbonising itself and in design mfr and export of renewables kit, so not a huge win for liberalism there.
"“Building more coal-fired power capacity will not provide energy security for China. This is a deep-seated falsehood. It’s part of a traditional mindset about the energy sector that clawed its way back into prominence rather quickly. An overcapacity of this one energy source is a major hurdle for energy security, as well as China’s energy transition. China’s power inadequacies do not originate from low generation capacity. China has an overcapacity of coal-fired power plants. Power inadequacies originate from poor integration of generation, grid, load, and storage,” said Wu Jinghan, the climate & energy campaigner in Greenpeace East Asia’s Beijing office."
S/he would say that, wouldn't they? It must be a very unusual sort of coal if having lots of it and lots of coal fired power stations contributes nothing to your energy security. And "Power inadequacies originate from poor integration of generation, grid, load, and storage" can be true while it is also true that the quckest temporary fix for the problem, is coal. And if you are a 1.4bn person nation trying to modernise itself you need to smelt a whole heap of steel to modernise your infrastructure, including power infrastructure.
And that's before we get on to the point that they are burning that coal to make YOUR phone and car and computer and white goods and clothes and for that matter, solar panels and wind turbines.
Greenpeace is a malevolent organisation. But the point was China is building lots of coal fired power stations.
Quite simply you are completely and utterly wrong. They are not decarbonising their economy: they are resisting pressure for net zero. They see it as an opportunity to steal a match in the foolish west
If DeSantis (Florida's top Micheal McIntyre tribute act) primaries Trump and beats him to the nomination the Deplorables will be very butthurt and it could supress turnout.
I think DeSantis has to go for it because, if not now, then when? Four years is a lifetime in politics and Trump's VP will probably be the GOP candidate in 2028. Assuming they are still having elections by then which is by no means a sure thing.
Some observers disagree; they don’t think he has the bottle.
https://steveschmidt.substack.com/p/updated-the-little-eichmann? … DeSantis can’t beat Trump in a primary because he isn’t tough enough. He lacks the character for direct confrontation with the big boss. He is a schemer. He wants to inherit the throne, not fight the king for it. Relations between the true seat of MAGA power and DeSantis’ backwater duchy are poor. Making a move against Trump requires courage, and the one thing that Trump is completely right about is his assessments around his court’s cowardice. He looks at DeSantis, and sees a punk. He knows that the diminutive bully strikes down, not up. Trump knows he’s weak even if the national political press corps hasn’t figured it out yet….
Of course the Justice Department might also get a say in whether or not Trump can run.
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I honestly think an american civil war would lead to a british civil war along similar lines...woke leftists vs the white working class...
I honestly think you're living in a fantasy world of your own.
Might seem farfetched but imagine coverage of an american civil war on our tv screens every night...we know how humans have a herd mentality
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I’m not an expert on the psyches of Confederates but all I’ve read suggests that they had an almost mystical faith in the rightness of their cause. I’m fairly sure knowing deep down that the North could and would crush them economically was more crippling to them.
I've always struggled with the American civil war. If the states were right to rebel against the British, why shouldn't the south break away? Why did the north fight? It wasn't really to free slaves. Most wars I can understand why people fought for what they did, but I can't get my head round why a Northern soldier signed up. Any help from the historians on pb appreciated.
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
My guess is, any weaponry beyond AR15s depends on software and maintenance controlled by nerds in the Pentagon, so whole regiments defecting to MAGA will just mean more fatties with rifles cos their helicopters and tanks and shit will stop working.
Not sure 9/11 really makes the cut. Like saving private Ryan and pearl harbor the cinematic centrepiece is so mind-blowing it obscures a pretty ordinary narrative.
I think there's an analogy with Pearl Harbor - Americans liked to think they were somehow invulnerable but 9/11 dispelled that with a vengeance. For London, 7/7 was awful but we'd lived with terror for nearly 40 years though not suicide bombers which was the new dimension.
It impacted American policy directly not only through the eventual Iraq invasion in 2003 and the cover the Bin Laden attacks but also the money successive Republican legislatures poured into defence (and the profits made by defence contractors) came home to roost when the Democrats won the House in 2006 and the extent of the economic exposure became clear.
I genuinely think there was a brief period of euphoria (remember Fukayama) in the early 90s where it was believed we now lived in a unipolar world where the triumph of western liberal democracy was inevitable. The reality of the conflicts which had in some ways been masked by Soviet imperialism was then uncovered as Moscow withdrew from Europe and Africa.
Fukayama lol, that End of History stuff was always hubristic nonsense
Worrying that when I start typing his name phone now autocorrects to fuck.
Read the book. There's nothing hubristic about it. 30 years later has anyone come up with a compelling alternative to liberal democracy? No.
Liberal democracy is Monty Python's black knight. You can be as compelled by it as you like, but it has given way to plutocratic demagoguery here, it is history in the US when Trump gets back in, India is under a racist tyrant and it doesn't seem to have been very good at displacing communism anywhere since 1989. Where has it triumphed?
Ditto "liberal capitalism" but more so. It has been shown since Fukuyama to be humanity's worst mistake. Either it destroys the planet via climate change or climate change destroys it. Because Truss was sort of right, enemies Of Growth are a thing and getting progressively thingier, because they have the only position it is rationally possible to have.
I’d say liberal capitalism is doing a pretty decent job of (finally) mitigating climate change through the twin forces of the market and democratic pressure.
We haven't mitigated it yet, have we? Bookmark this conv for 10 years time.
China is way ahead of most of the democratic world both on decarbonising itself and in design mfr and export of renewables kit, so not a huge win for liberalism there.
"“Building more coal-fired power capacity will not provide energy security for China. This is a deep-seated falsehood. It’s part of a traditional mindset about the energy sector that clawed its way back into prominence rather quickly. An overcapacity of this one energy source is a major hurdle for energy security, as well as China’s energy transition. China’s power inadequacies do not originate from low generation capacity. China has an overcapacity of coal-fired power plants. Power inadequacies originate from poor integration of generation, grid, load, and storage,” said Wu Jinghan, the climate & energy campaigner in Greenpeace East Asia’s Beijing office."
S/he would say that, wouldn't they? It must be a very unusual sort of coal if having lots of it and lots of coal fired power stations contributes nothing to your energy security. And "Power inadequacies originate from poor integration of generation, grid, load, and storage" can be true while it is also true that the quckest temporary fix for the problem, is coal. And if you are a 1.4bn person nation trying to modernise itself you need to smelt a whole heap of steel to modernise your infrastructure, including power infrastructure.
And that's before we get on to the point that they are burning that coal to make YOUR phone and car and computer and white goods and clothes and for that matter, solar panels and wind turbines.
Greenpeace is a malevolent organisation. But the point was China is building lots of coal fired power stations.
Quite simply you are completely and utterly wrong. They are not decarbonising their economy: they are resisting pressure for net zero. They see it as an opportunity to steal a match in the foolish west
Paranoid racist nonsense. 3 Gorges Dam would power the whole UK, with lots left over.
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I’m not an expert on the psyches of Confederates but all I’ve read suggests that they had an almost mystical faith in the rightness of their cause. I’m fairly sure knowing deep down that the North could and would crush them economically was more crippling to them.
I think the real problem is they never believed it would come to sustained fighting. They assumed that when the first couple of invasions of the south were repelled the Union would come to terms, or be forced to by foreign governments (notably France and Britain) anxious to buy southern cotton.
In this they were of course totally mistaken but it's not in itself an illogical train of thought. Had Lincoln been less resolute or had the Democrats had a majority in Congress it might even have worked.
Not sure 9/11 really makes the cut. Like saving private Ryan and pearl harbor the cinematic centrepiece is so mind-blowing it obscures a pretty ordinary narrative.
I think there's an analogy with Pearl Harbor - Americans liked to think they were somehow invulnerable but 9/11 dispelled that with a vengeance. For London, 7/7 was awful but we'd lived with terror for nearly 40 years though not suicide bombers which was the new dimension.
It impacted American policy directly not only through the eventual Iraq invasion in 2003 and the cover the Bin Laden attacks but also the money successive Republican legislatures poured into defence (and the profits made by defence contractors) came home to roost when the Democrats won the House in 2006 and the extent of the economic exposure became clear.
I genuinely think there was a brief period of euphoria (remember Fukayama) in the early 90s where it was believed we now lived in a unipolar world where the triumph of western liberal democracy was inevitable. The reality of the conflicts which had in some ways been masked by Soviet imperialism was then uncovered as Moscow withdrew from Europe and Africa.
Fukayama lol, that End of History stuff was always hubristic nonsense
Worrying that when I start typing his name phone now autocorrects to fuck.
Read the book. There's nothing hubristic about it. 30 years later has anyone come up with a compelling alternative to liberal democracy? No.
Liberal democracy is Monty Python's black knight. You can be as compelled by it as you like, but it has given way to plutocratic demagoguery here, it is history in the US when Trump gets back in, India is under a racist tyrant and it doesn't seem to have been very good at displacing communism anywhere since 1989. Where has it triumphed?
Ditto "liberal capitalism" but more so. It has been shown since Fukuyama to be humanity's worst mistake. Either it destroys the planet via climate change or climate change destroys it. Because Truss was sort of right, enemies Of Growth are a thing and getting progressively thingier, because they have the only position it is rationally possible to have.
I’d say liberal capitalism is doing a pretty decent job of (finally) mitigating climate change through the twin forces of the market and democratic pressure.
We haven't mitigated it yet, have we? Bookmark this conv for 10 years time.
China is way ahead of most of the democratic world both on decarbonising itself and in design mfr and export of renewables kit, so not a huge win for liberalism there.
Whether through eugenic mating or cosmetic surgery, China is also producing more HOT TEEN GIRLS
The West is totally finished
and a big factor in male motivation to work is hot young women....if you are a young man surrounded by obese women i think you are much less likely to work hard than if you are surrounded by hot young women....it is human nature in action.....
So let’s compare the performance of the Russian army vs, say, the US one?
Yes but that is because russia is technologically inferior to the usa...if technology was equal i think the russians would win as russians are more willing to die
Training matters
We’ve seen the unfortunate consequence of untrained conscripts being flung at prepared defensive positions in recent days
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
Maybe america should split in 2 One part white christian with immigration only from northern europe The other part multicultural with immigration from all over the world Let the 2 parts compete
I spent a brief moment at a pub this afternoon with a nice pint of Harvey’s best, and they were playing Jerry Rafferty - Baker Street. It struck me as being the ultimate autumn Sunday afternoon pub track. I had an almost Proustian response to it.
It was one of very few tracks that is absolutely perfect in every respect.
Pretty much the only other one being Sultans of Swing from I think the same year?
JR was an unhappy character.
GR!
Bit of a see u next Tuesday when on the bevvy I believe.
Gonna see the Fratellis next week talking of edgy central belt music.
Get your skinny jeans and winklepickers laid out. Haven’t kept up with them lately but liked them when I did.
Got tickets for Peat and Diesel for the new year for a bit of Lewis and Harris edginess, chuffed as they always seem to sell out in a flash.
Wilco, polishing up the snip toe Tony Lamas.
As with Del Amitri they deserved to make it bigger than they did. In theory they are supporting Kaiser Chiefs, to me it's other way round.
Del Amitri were great. Four or five classic songs
Their problem was that they arrived in a time of Pop Music Plenty, when there was so much talent exploding everywhere, some really good stuff was sneglected
That said, Wiki says they sold "6 million albums" which is pretty bloody impressive, so yay Del Amitri
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I honestly think an american civil war would lead to a british civil war along similar lines...woke leftists vs the white working class...
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I’m not an expert on the psyches of Confederates but all I’ve read suggests that they had an almost mystical faith in the rightness of their cause. I’m fairly sure knowing deep down that the North could and would crush them economically was more crippling to them.
I've always struggled with the American civil war. If the states were right to rebel against the British, why shouldn't the south break away? Why did the north fight? It wasn't really to free slaves. Most wars I can understand why people fought for what they did, but I can't get my head round why a Northern soldier signed up. Any help from the historians on pb appreciated.
Treason doth never prosper - why? What's the reason? Well, if it doth prosper, none dare call it treason.
There were two generals. Both slaveholders, although one freed his slaves in his lifetime and the other at his death. Both officially junior officers, although that was mostly to do with the ranking system rather than their actual seniority. Both from Virginia. Both were retired from the army. Both turned on the country to which they had sworn allegiance. One won all bar three of his battles but lost the war, the other won no major battles at all but won his war.
Which one is the villain and the loser?
Well, obviously the one who freed his slaves and won his battles.
Not sure 9/11 really makes the cut. Like saving private Ryan and pearl harbor the cinematic centrepiece is so mind-blowing it obscures a pretty ordinary narrative.
I think there's an analogy with Pearl Harbor - Americans liked to think they were somehow invulnerable but 9/11 dispelled that with a vengeance. For London, 7/7 was awful but we'd lived with terror for nearly 40 years though not suicide bombers which was the new dimension.
It impacted American policy directly not only through the eventual Iraq invasion in 2003 and the cover the Bin Laden attacks but also the money successive Republican legislatures poured into defence (and the profits made by defence contractors) came home to roost when the Democrats won the House in 2006 and the extent of the economic exposure became clear.
I genuinely think there was a brief period of euphoria (remember Fukayama) in the early 90s where it was believed we now lived in a unipolar world where the triumph of western liberal democracy was inevitable. The reality of the conflicts which had in some ways been masked by Soviet imperialism was then uncovered as Moscow withdrew from Europe and Africa.
Fukayama lol, that End of History stuff was always hubristic nonsense
Worrying that when I start typing his name phone now autocorrects to fuck.
Read the book. There's nothing hubristic about it. 30 years later has anyone come up with a compelling alternative to liberal democracy? No.
Liberal democracy is Monty Python's black knight. You can be as compelled by it as you like, but it has given way to plutocratic demagoguery here, it is history in the US when Trump gets back in, India is under a racist tyrant and it doesn't seem to have been very good at displacing communism anywhere since 1989. Where has it triumphed?
Ditto "liberal capitalism" but more so. It has been shown since Fukuyama to be humanity's worst mistake. Either it destroys the planet via climate change or climate change destroys it. Because Truss was sort of right, enemies Of Growth are a thing and getting progressively thingier, because they have the only position it is rationally possible to have.
I’d say liberal capitalism is doing a pretty decent job of (finally) mitigating climate change through the twin forces of the market and democratic pressure.
We haven't mitigated it yet, have we? Bookmark this conv for 10 years time.
China is way ahead of most of the democratic world both on decarbonising itself and in design mfr and export of renewables kit, so not a huge win for liberalism there.
Whether through eugenic mating or cosmetic surgery, China is also producing more HOT TEEN GIRLS
The West is totally finished
and a big factor in male motivation to work is hot young women....if you are a young man surrounded by obese women i think you are much less likely to work hard than if you are surrounded by hot young women....it is human nature in action.....
So let’s compare the performance of the Russian army vs, say, the US one?
Yes but that is because russia is technologically inferior to the usa...if technology was equal i think the russians would win as russians are more willing to die
Willingness to die is an overrated attribute. It means the whole military apparatus isn’t set up to preserve life and health, and ultimately that means hanging people out to dry.
You continue your country’s death wish but the future of warfare is zero-casualty conflict.
Warfare is essentially the use of force to achieve political objectives.
Bravery and calculated risk-tasking is necessary to achieve that but it's pretty mad to glorify needless sacrifice on your own side for its own sake, and casualties should be both minimised and regretted by any sane commander.
That’s just bastardising Clausewitz
“War is the continuation of diplomacy by other means”
Interesting article by a polling group in America.
I was very persuaded by the "Differential Poll response casued by Democracts being more likely to be staying at home during Covid" as the reason why the 2020 polls in America were crap.
This polling group says they are seeing a disproportionate level of "Vax + Boosted" respondents in their polls
Not sure 9/11 really makes the cut. Like saving private Ryan and pearl harbor the cinematic centrepiece is so mind-blowing it obscures a pretty ordinary narrative.
I think there's an analogy with Pearl Harbor - Americans liked to think they were somehow invulnerable but 9/11 dispelled that with a vengeance. For London, 7/7 was awful but we'd lived with terror for nearly 40 years though not suicide bombers which was the new dimension.
It impacted American policy directly not only through the eventual Iraq invasion in 2003 and the cover the Bin Laden attacks but also the money successive Republican legislatures poured into defence (and the profits made by defence contractors) came home to roost when the Democrats won the House in 2006 and the extent of the economic exposure became clear.
I genuinely think there was a brief period of euphoria (remember Fukayama) in the early 90s where it was believed we now lived in a unipolar world where the triumph of western liberal democracy was inevitable. The reality of the conflicts which had in some ways been masked by Soviet imperialism was then uncovered as Moscow withdrew from Europe and Africa.
Fukayama lol, that End of History stuff was always hubristic nonsense
Worrying that when I start typing his name phone now autocorrects to fuck.
Read the book. There's nothing hubristic about it. 30 years later has anyone come up with a compelling alternative to liberal democracy? No.
Liberal democracy is Monty Python's black knight. You can be as compelled by it as you like, but it has given way to plutocratic demagoguery here, it is history in the US when Trump gets back in, India is under a racist tyrant and it doesn't seem to have been very good at displacing communism anywhere since 1989. Where has it triumphed?
Ditto "liberal capitalism" but more so. It has been shown since Fukuyama to be humanity's worst mistake. Either it destroys the planet via climate change or climate change destroys it. Because Truss was sort of right, enemies Of Growth are a thing and getting progressively thingier, because they have the only position it is rationally possible to have.
I’d say liberal capitalism is doing a pretty decent job of (finally) mitigating climate change through the twin forces of the market and democratic pressure.
We haven't mitigated it yet, have we? Bookmark this conv for 10 years time.
China is way ahead of most of the democratic world both on decarbonising itself and in design mfr and export of renewables kit, so not a huge win for liberalism there.
Whether through eugenic mating or cosmetic surgery, China is also producing more HOT TEEN GIRLS
The West is totally finished
and a big factor in male motivation to work is hot young women....if you are a young man surrounded by obese women i think you are much less likely to work hard than if you are surrounded by hot young women....it is human nature in action.....
So let’s compare the performance of the Russian army vs, say, the US one?
Yes but that is because russia is technologically inferior to the usa...if technology was equal i think the russians would win as russians are more willing to die
Willingness to die is an overrated attribute. It means the whole military apparatus isn’t set up to preserve life and health, and ultimately that means hanging people out to dry.
No doubt there have been criticisms of some generals in history for being too keen to preserve the lives of their troop, as if it is somehow cheating.
I mean, sure, you have to take risks in war I would guess, but fanatical stubborness only gets you so far I assume.
Several generals in the US Civil War were sacked for it. McLellan, whom Lincoln dismissed with the words 'if you don't want to use the army, I should like to borrow it for a while,' and Davis dismissed Joe Johnson of the Confederate army for refusing to engage the numerically superior army under Sherman while at a disadvantage of ground.
Then you have the Duke of Wellington, whose political opponents were highly critical of his constant retreats, yet somehow failed to notice he never lost a battle and conquered Spain and France as a result.
I find military strategy fascinating...like a combination of chess and poker with much bluffing and deception...
The Russian generals are clearly magnificent at bluff and deception.
If only they practiced it on their opponents and not on the Kremlin's auditors...
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
My guess is, any weaponry beyond AR15s depends on software and maintenance controlled by nerds in the Pentagon, so whole regiments defecting to MAGA will just mean more fatties with rifles cos their helicopters and tanks and shit will stop working.
Logistics, innit.
I'd be more worried about the police - they are semi-militarised in the states, long guns, APCs etc. If a few Republican Governors manage to persuade them to ignore federal law, would be very difficult for a President to make the order to take them out.
Does anyone know how the National Guard would react? They have a split loyalty.
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I honestly think an american civil war would lead to a british civil war along similar lines...woke leftists vs the white working class...
I honestly think you're living in a fantasy world of your own.
Might seem farfetched but imagine coverage of an american civil war on our tv screens every night...we know how humans have a herd mentality
Don't be dumb. No one looks at news footage of another country tearing itself apart and thinks 'oh, maybe we should do that too'.
Also, re: "woke leftists vs the white working class". No one gives a shit about 'woke' beyond a few right-wing nut jobs (some of whom are on here). People care about not being able to pay their fuel bills, afford the rent/mortgage, do their weekly shop, get a doctors appointment if they need one. They worry about climate change, about their jobs, their kids getting a decent education, their older relatives having proper social care, whether an ambulance would turn up if they need one. Stuff like that.
My guess is, any weaponry beyond AR15s depends on software and maintenance controlled by nerds in the Pentagon, so whole regiments defecting to MAGA will just mean more fatties with rifles cos their helicopters and tanks and shit will stop working.
Whoever controls the comms and logistics will win. So the incumbent Federal Government (of whatever flavour) has a massive advantage.
Anybody expecting mutiny or barratry from any significant component of the US military will be disappointed.
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I honestly think an american civil war would lead to a british civil war along similar lines...woke leftists vs the white working class...
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I honestly think an american civil war would lead to a british civil war along similar lines...woke leftists vs the white working class...
I honestly think you're living in a fantasy world of your own.
Might seem farfetched but imagine coverage of an american civil war on our tv screens every night...we know how humans have a herd mentality
Don't be dumb. No one looks at news footage of another country tearing itself apart and thinks 'oh, maybe we should do that too'.
Also, re: "woke leftists vs the white working class". No one gives a shit about 'woke' beyond a few right-wing nut jobs (some of whom are on here). People care about not being able to pay their fuel bills, afford the rent/mortgage, do their weekly shop, get a doctors appointment if they need one. They worry about climate change, about their jobs, their kids getting a decent education, their older relatives having proper social care, whether an ambulance would turn up if they need one.
Stuff like that. Woke, not so much.
You are delusionally wrong. Woke is so advanced in America: and many people care
People like you reckon it is the same as a Daily Mail scare story from the 90s. You think this is "political correctness gone mad"
That's as bad an error as identifying Covid as "just another flu"
There will be no American Civil War, and an English one even less likely. A Russian one? Quite possible.
The reason is geography. There is no geographical border between Republican and Democrat areas, and even in States like Florida or Texas the population has a major Democrat minority, and California a substantive Republican one.
That is not to say US politics isn't going to be toxic, and full of skullduggery, but war in any realistic sense of the word? Simply no.
And here, yes there is likely to be social hardship in a way not seen in over a decade, or even possibly since the early Eighties, but actually the difference between Starmarism and Sunakism is a matter of a few percent here and there. With the fall of Truss, the ideological divide ended. The financial speculators call the tune on both parties, and for that matter the SNP. Sovereignty? What sovereignty?
Interesting article by a polling group in America.
I was very persuaded by the "Differential Poll response casued by Democracts being more likely to be staying at home during Covid" as the reason why the 2020 polls in America were crap.
This polling group says they are seeing a disproportionate level of "Vax + Boosted" respondents in their polls
I spent a brief moment at a pub this afternoon with a nice pint of Harvey’s best, and they were playing Jerry Rafferty - Baker Street. It struck me as being the ultimate autumn Sunday afternoon pub track. I had an almost Proustian response to it.
It was one of very few tracks that is absolutely perfect in every respect.
Pretty much the only other one being Sultans of Swing from I think the same year?
JR was an unhappy character.
GR!
Bit of a see u next Tuesday when on the bevvy I believe.
Gonna see the Fratellis next week talking of edgy central belt music.
Get your skinny jeans and winklepickers laid out. Haven’t kept up with them lately but liked them when I did.
Got tickets for Peat and Diesel for the new year for a bit of Lewis and Harris edginess, chuffed as they always seem to sell out in a flash.
Wilco, polishing up the snip toe Tony Lamas.
As with Del Amitri they deserved to make it bigger than they did. In theory they are supporting Kaiser Chiefs, to me it's other way round.
Del Amitri were great. Four or five classic songs
Their problem was that they arrived in a time of Pop Music Plenty, when there was so much talent exploding everywhere, some really good stuff was sneglected
That said, Wiki says they sold "6 million albums" which is pretty bloody impressive, so yay Del Amitri
There will be no American Civil War, and an English one even less likely. A Russian one? Quite possible.
The reason is geography. There is no geographical border between Republican and Democrat areas, and even in States like Florida or Texas the population has a major Democrat minority, and California a substantive Republican one.
That is not to say US politics isn't going to be toxic, and full of skullduggery, but war in any realistic sense of the word? Simply no.
And here, yes there is likely to be social hardship in a way not seen in over a decade, or even possibly since the early Eighties, but actually the difference between Starmarism and Sunakism is a matter of a few percent here and there. With the fall of Truss, the ideological divide ended. The financial speculators call the tune on both parties, and for that matter the SNP. Sovereignty? What sovereignty?
Why would geography prevent one? Wouldn't it be even bloodier, with fighting reaching every part of the US?
I note we have yet another Russian troll on the threads. It’s almost a daily occurrence nowadays
He’s playing really nicely though. He did have the nerve to suggest I needed to learn grammar yesterday, even though his points mainly use lower case…and ellipsis…rather than a full stop or indeed a dash. But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
Does anyone know how the National Guard would react? They have a split loyalty.
NG (and NGR) have a lot of ex active duty transferees from the regular forces so they are culturally well assimilated. They don't cleave too much to a particular state based identity in my very limited experience.
I think a lot of this largely pointless civil war discussion is being viewed from a British perspective. US military officers are generally much better educated (I'm not saying better before the Little Englanders have a mass anal prolapse) than British ones and progressive political opinions are surprisingly common.
Every kid at West Point was an academic superstar at their high school. Every kid at Sandhurst was probably not...
There will be no American Civil War, and an English one even less likely. A Russian one? Quite possible.
The reason is geography. There is no geographical border between Republican and Democrat areas, and even in States like Florida or Texas the population has a major Democrat minority, and California a substantive Republican one.
That is not to say US politics isn't going to be toxic, and full of skullduggery, but war in any realistic sense of the word? Simply no.
And here, yes there is likely to be social hardship in a way not seen in over a decade, or even possibly since the early Eighties, but actually the difference between Starmarism and Sunakism is a matter of a few percent here and there. With the fall of Truss, the ideological divide ended. The financial speculators call the tune on both parties, and for that matter the SNP. Sovereignty? What sovereignty?
Why would geography prevent one? Wouldn't it be even bloodier, with fighting reaching every part of the US?
Does anyone know how the National Guard would react? They have a split loyalty.
NG (and NGR) have a lot of ex active duty transferees from the regular forces so they are culturally well assimilated. They don't cleave too much to a particular state based identity in my very limited experience.
I think a lot of this largely pointless civil war discussion is being viewed from a British perspective. US military officers are generally much better educated (I'm not saying better before the Little Englanders have a mass anal prolapse) than British ones and progressive political opinions are surprisingly common.
Every kid at West Point was an academic superstar at their high school. Every kid at Sandhurst was probably not...
How shit were the war winning NLAWs in your "expert" opinion?
I note we have yet another Russian troll on the threads. It’s almost a daily occurrence nowadays
He’s playing really nicely though. He did have the nerve to suggest I needed to learn grammar yesterday, even though his points mainly use lower case…and ellipsis…rather than a full stop or indeed a dash. But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
As long as he doesn’t use one of these, I’m willing to tolerate him a little longer
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Does anyone know how the National Guard would react? They have a split loyalty.
NG (and NGR) have a lot of ex active duty transferees from the regular forces so they are culturally well assimilated. They don't cleave too much to a particular state based identity in my very limited experience.
I think a lot of this largely pointless civil war discussion is being viewed from a British perspective. US military officers are generally much better educated (I'm not saying better before the Little Englanders have a mass anal prolapse) than British ones and progressive political opinions are surprisingly common.
Every kid at West Point was an academic superstar at their high school. Every kid at Sandhurst was probably not...
How does one get into Sandhurst thesedays? Still a matter of who you know?
I spent a brief moment at a pub this afternoon with a nice pint of Harvey’s best, and they were playing Jerry Rafferty - Baker Street. It struck me as being the ultimate autumn Sunday afternoon pub track. I had an almost Proustian response to it.
It was one of very few tracks that is absolutely perfect in every respect.
Pretty much the only other one being Sultans of Swing from I think the same year?
JR was an unhappy character.
GR!
Bit of a see u next Tuesday when on the bevvy I believe.
Gonna see the Fratellis next week talking of edgy central belt music.
Get your skinny jeans and winklepickers laid out. Haven’t kept up with them lately but liked them when I did.
Got tickets for Peat and Diesel for the new year for a bit of Lewis and Harris edginess, chuffed as they always seem to sell out in a flash.
Wilco, polishing up the snip toe Tony Lamas.
As with Del Amitri they deserved to make it bigger than they did. In theory they are supporting Kaiser Chiefs, to me it's other way round.
Del Amitri were great. Four or five classic songs
Their problem was that they arrived in a time of Pop Music Plenty, when there was so much talent exploding everywhere, some really good stuff was sneglected
That said, Wiki says they sold "6 million albums" which is pretty bloody impressive, so yay Del Amitri
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I honestly think an american civil war would lead to a british civil war along similar lines...woke leftists vs the white working class...
Hampstead would see off Hartlepool easy. Hobnail boots and vulgar chanting no match for the fortified crepe van.
I note we have yet another Russian troll on the threads. It’s almost a daily occurrence nowadays
He’s playing really nicely though. He did have the nerve to suggest I needed to learn grammar yesterday, even though his points mainly use lower case…and ellipsis…rather than a full stop or indeed a dash. But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
Although I note s/he's off on diesel shortages again.
Does anyone know how the National Guard would react? They have a split loyalty.
NG (and NGR) have a lot of ex active duty transferees from the regular forces so they are culturally well assimilated. They don't cleave too much to a particular state based identity in my very limited experience.
I think a lot of this largely pointless civil war discussion is being viewed from a British perspective. US military officers are generally much better educated (I'm not saying better before the Little Englanders have a mass anal prolapse) than British ones and progressive political opinions are surprisingly common.
Every kid at West Point was an academic superstar at their high school. Every kid at Sandhurst was probably not...
National Guard is really a misnomer, as they are really state militias. The national US Army doesn't have the same archaic regimental system as here, so loyalty to the organisation itself is much stronger.
We saw though on Jan 6th 2021 the closest thing to an uprising*, and we saw how the official forces aligned themselves with government rather than party. It would be the same again.
*in no other developed country could we imagine the man who attempted a coup getting a party nomination for leader.
and the pathos behind the fragile optimism which you just know is not going to work out.
Fast Car is one of the greatest songs ever written
And yet it took my marriage to my 30-years-younger wife for her to point out that "actually, it ends really sadly"
I listened to it and loved it for decades without noticing this. I always thought it told a bittersweet story of Finally Escaping, but leaving people behind. Ooops
Perhaps that is a marker of a fabulous song. Or I am just an idiot
I note we have yet another Russian troll on the threads. It’s almost a daily occurrence nowadays
He’s playing really nicely though. He did have the nerve to suggest I needed to learn grammar yesterday, even though his points mainly use lower case…and ellipsis…rather than a full stop or indeed a dash. But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
As long as he doesn’t use one of these, I’m willing to tolerate him a little longer
• Heavy lifting • Colour me … • IANAE/IANAL • Feature, not a bug • Ad hom • This • It’s a view • North of (to mean more than) • As I’ve said passim • One of those irregular verbs • Late of this parish • Nail. Head. • Unspoofable • Fixed that for you
I note we have yet another Russian troll on the threads. It’s almost a daily occurrence nowadays
He’s playing really nicely though. He did have the nerve to suggest I needed to learn grammar yesterday, even though his points mainly use lower case…and ellipsis…rather than a full stop or indeed a dash. But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
As long as he doesn’t use one of these, I’m willing to tolerate him a little longer
• Heavy lifting • Colour me … • IANAE/IANAL • Feature, not a bug • Ad hom • This • It’s a view • North of (to mean more than) • As I’ve said passim • One of those irregular verbs • Late of this parish • Nail. Head. • Unspoofable
I note we have yet another Russian troll on the threads. It’s almost a daily occurrence nowadays
He’s playing really nicely though. He did have the nerve to suggest I needed to learn grammar yesterday, even though his points mainly use lower case…and ellipsis…rather than a full stop or indeed a dash. But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
As long as he doesn’t use one of these, I’m willing to tolerate him a little longer
• Heavy lifting • Colour me … • IANAE/IANAL • Feature, not a bug • Ad hom • This • It’s a view • North of (to mean more than) • As I’ve said passim • One of those irregular verbs • Late of this parish • Nail. Head. • Unspoofable • Fixed that for you
I note we have yet another Russian troll on the threads. It’s almost a daily occurrence nowadays
He’s playing really nicely though. He did have the nerve to suggest I needed to learn grammar yesterday, even though his points mainly use lower case…and ellipsis…rather than a full stop or indeed a dash. But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
As long as he doesn’t use one of these, I’m willing to tolerate him a little longer
• Heavy lifting • Colour me … • IANAE/IANAL • Feature, not a bug • Ad hom • This • It’s a view • North of (to mean more than) • As I’ve said passim • One of those irregular verbs • Late of this parish • Nail. Head. • Unspoofable
I note we have yet another Russian troll on the threads. It’s almost a daily occurrence nowadays
He’s playing really nicely though. He did have the nerve to suggest I needed to learn grammar yesterday, even though his points mainly use lower case…and ellipsis…rather than a full stop or indeed a dash. But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
Although I note s/he's off on diesel shortages again.
If we just keep a pet Russian troll on here it should at least save us being bombarded by new ones all the time.
I wonder which side my TA will be on in the impending civil war? One of seven kids raised by a single parent in Blyth and without a single GCSE. Who gave up her evening to make rainbow pronoun badges with her truck driver boyfriend for the staff?
I note we have yet another Russian troll on the threads. It’s almost a daily occurrence nowadays
He’s playing really nicely though. He did have the nerve to suggest I needed to learn grammar yesterday, even though his points mainly use lower case…and ellipsis…rather than a full stop or indeed a dash. But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
As long as he doesn’t use one of these, I’m willing to tolerate him a little longer
• Heavy lifting • Colour me … • IANAE/IANAL • Feature, not a bug • Ad hom • This • It’s a view • North of (to mean more than) • As I’ve said passim • One of those irregular verbs • Late of this parish • Nail. Head. • Unspoofable
and the pathos behind the fragile optimism which you just know is not going to work out.
Fast Car is one of the greatest songs ever written
And yet it took my marriage to my 30-years-younger wife for her to point out that "actually, it ends really sadly"
I listened to it and loved it for decades without noticing this. I always thought it told a bittersweet story of Finally Escaping, but leaving people behind. Ooops
Perhaps that is a marker of a fabulous song. Or I am just an idiot
The Pavorotti/Tracy Chapman version of Baby can I hold you tonight at the end of House oF Gucci (available on Amazon prime video) is my favorite at the moment.
Gorgrous song, gorgeous singer. For bittersweet i rather like Up the Junction and Labelled with Love. In different ways just express the bleakness and shittiness of life.
He became drinker and she became mother, she knew that one day she'd be one or the other
Not sure 9/11 really makes the cut. Like saving private Ryan and pearl harbor the cinematic centrepiece is so mind-blowing it obscures a pretty ordinary narrative.
I think there's an analogy with Pearl Harbor - Americans liked to think they were somehow invulnerable but 9/11 dispelled that with a vengeance. For London, 7/7 was awful but we'd lived with terror for nearly 40 years though not suicide bombers which was the new dimension.
It impacted American policy directly not only through the eventual Iraq invasion in 2003 and the cover the Bin Laden attacks but also the money successive Republican legislatures poured into defence (and the profits made by defence contractors) came home to roost when the Democrats won the House in 2006 and the extent of the economic exposure became clear.
I genuinely think there was a brief period of euphoria (remember Fukayama) in the early 90s where it was believed we now lived in a unipolar world where the triumph of western liberal democracy was inevitable. The reality of the conflicts which had in some ways been masked by Soviet imperialism was then uncovered as Moscow withdrew from Europe and Africa.
Fukayama lol, that End of History stuff was always hubristic nonsense
Worrying that when I start typing his name phone now autocorrects to fuck.
Read the book. There's nothing hubristic about it. 30 years later has anyone come up with a compelling alternative to liberal democracy? No.
Liberal democracy is Monty Python's black knight. You can be as compelled by it as you like, but it has given way to plutocratic demagoguery here, it is history in the US when Trump gets back in, India is under a racist tyrant and it doesn't seem to have been very good at displacing communism anywhere since 1989. Where has it triumphed?
Ditto "liberal capitalism" but more so. It has been shown since Fukuyama to be humanity's worst mistake. Either it destroys the planet via climate change or climate change destroys it. Because Truss was sort of right, enemies Of Growth are a thing and getting progressively thingier, because they have the only position it is rationally possible to have.
I’d say liberal capitalism is doing a pretty decent job of (finally) mitigating climate change through the twin forces of the market and democratic pressure.
We haven't mitigated it yet, have we? Bookmark this conv for 10 years time.
China is way ahead of most of the democratic world both on decarbonising itself and in design mfr and export of renewables kit, so not a huge win for liberalism there.
Whether through eugenic mating or cosmetic surgery, China is also producing more HOT TEEN GIRLS
The West is totally finished
and a big factor in male motivation to work is hot young women....if you are a young man surrounded by obese women i think you are much less likely to work hard than if you are surrounded by hot young women....it is human nature in action.....
So let’s compare the performance of the Russian army vs, say, the US one?
Yes but that is because russia is technologically inferior to the usa...if technology was equal i think the russians would win as russians are more willing to die
Willingness to die is an overrated attribute. It means the whole military apparatus isn’t set up to preserve life and health, and ultimately that means hanging people out to dry.
You continue your country’s death wish but the future of warfare is zero-casualty conflict.
Warfare is essentially the use of force to achieve political objectives.
Bravery and calculated risk-tasking is necessary to achieve that but it's pretty mad to glorify needless sacrifice on your own side for its own sake, and casualties should be both minimised and regretted by any sane commander.
That’s just bastardising Clausewitz
“War is the continuation of diplomacy by other means”
Though the music recommendations on this thread are like Smooth FM on Valium. Not my cup of tea at all.
Music does bring back memories like Proust and his Madelaine, they are however very specific to individual, time and place.
These are not recommendations. We are very specifically talking about Timelessly Classic and Perfect Pop Songs. So of course the list will sound like Smooth FM
I've no doubt you would get extraordinarily diverse suggestions if you asked for mad new music to listen to. PB is good at that. I have found all kinds of music from recommendations on here, from Lebanese rock to Colombian swing
Back down, mister suburban, middlebrow, Leicester Doctor "status anxiety" @Foxy
I note we have yet another Russian troll on the threads. It’s almost a daily occurrence nowadays
He’s playing really nicely though. He did have the nerve to suggest I needed to learn grammar yesterday, even though his points mainly use lower case…and ellipsis…rather than a full stop or indeed a dash. But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
As long as he doesn’t use one of these, I’m willing to tolerate him a little longer
• Heavy lifting • Colour me … • IANAE/IANAL • Feature, not a bug • Ad hom • This • It’s a view • North of (to mean more than) • As I’ve said passim • One of those irregular verbs • Late of this parish • Nail. Head. • Unspoofable
Gorgrous song, gorgeous singer. For bittersweet i rather like Up the Junction and Labelled with Love. In different ways just express the bleakness and shittiness of life.
He became drinker and she became mother, she knew that one day she'd be one or the other
True story: 15 years ago I was at the afterparty at Belladrum and talking to a bloke was playing a guitar and singing various standards and then said I'll do one of my own now. And did Up The Junction.
Pub quiz q: what do Up The Junction and Virginia Plain have in common?
Gorgrous song, gorgeous singer. For bittersweet i rather like Up the Junction and Labelled with Love. In different ways just express the bleakness and shittiness of life.
He became drinker and she became mother, she knew that one day she'd be one or the other
I got a job with Stanley He said I'd come in handy And started me on Monday So I had a bath on Sunday I worked eleven hours And bought the girl some flowers She said she'd seen a doctor And nothing now could stop her
That's close to lyrical perfection, in its depiction of working class London life, with added pregnancy
Gorgrous song, gorgeous singer. For bittersweet i rather like Up the Junction and Labelled with Love. In different ways just express the bleakness and shittiness of life.
He became drinker and she became mother, she knew that one day she'd be one or the other
I got a job with Stanley He said I'd come in handy And started me on Monday So I had a bath on Sunday I worked eleven hours And bought the girl some flowers She said she'd seen a doctor And nothing now could stop her
That's close to lyrical perfection, in its depiction of working class London life, with added pregnancy
The way that almost all the rhymes are slightly off is genius, too.
Tom Cotton won’t run for POTUS. He’s been calling major donors and supporters over the last few days informing them of his decision, citing family reasons
He’s the first potential candidate to make his plans known
Not sure 9/11 really makes the cut. Like saving private Ryan and pearl harbor the cinematic centrepiece is so mind-blowing it obscures a pretty ordinary narrative.
I think there's an analogy with Pearl Harbor - Americans liked to think they were somehow invulnerable but 9/11 dispelled that with a vengeance. For London, 7/7 was awful but we'd lived with terror for nearly 40 years though not suicide bombers which was the new dimension.
It impacted American policy directly not only through the eventual Iraq invasion in 2003 and the cover the Bin Laden attacks but also the money successive Republican legislatures poured into defence (and the profits made by defence contractors) came home to roost when the Democrats won the House in 2006 and the extent of the economic exposure became clear.
I genuinely think there was a brief period of euphoria (remember Fukayama) in the early 90s where it was believed we now lived in a unipolar world where the triumph of western liberal democracy was inevitable. The reality of the conflicts which had in some ways been masked by Soviet imperialism was then uncovered as Moscow withdrew from Europe and Africa.
Fukayama lol, that End of History stuff was always hubristic nonsense
Worrying that when I start typing his name phone now autocorrects to fuck.
Read the book. There's nothing hubristic about it. 30 years later has anyone come up with a compelling alternative to liberal democracy? No.
Liberal democracy is Monty Python's black knight. You can be as compelled by it as you like, but it has given way to plutocratic demagoguery here, it is history in the US when Trump gets back in, India is under a racist tyrant and it doesn't seem to have been very good at displacing communism anywhere since 1989. Where has it triumphed?
Ditto "liberal capitalism" but more so. It has been shown since Fukuyama to be humanity's worst mistake. Either it destroys the planet via climate change or climate change destroys it. Because Truss was sort of right, enemies Of Growth are a thing and getting progressively thingier, because they have the only position it is rationally possible to have.
I’d say liberal capitalism is doing a pretty decent job of (finally) mitigating climate change through the twin forces of the market and democratic pressure.
We haven't mitigated it yet, have we? Bookmark this conv for 10 years time.
China is way ahead of most of the democratic world both on decarbonising itself and in design mfr and export of renewables kit, so not a huge win for liberalism there.
Whether through eugenic mating or cosmetic surgery, China is also producing more HOT TEEN GIRLS
The West is totally finished
and a big factor in male motivation to work is hot young women....if you are a young man surrounded by obese women i think you are much less likely to work hard than if you are surrounded by hot young women....it is human nature in action.....
So let’s compare the performance of the Russian army vs, say, the US one?
Yes but that is because russia is technologically inferior to the usa...if technology was equal i think the russians would win as russians are more willing to die
Willingness to die is an overrated attribute. It means the whole military apparatus isn’t set up to preserve life and health, and ultimately that means hanging people out to dry.
You continue your country’s death wish but the future of warfare is zero-casualty conflict.
Warfare is essentially the use of force to achieve political objectives.
Bravery and calculated risk-tasking is necessary to achieve that but it's pretty mad to glorify needless sacrifice on your own side for its own sake, and casualties should be both minimised and regretted by any sane commander.
That’s just bastardising Clausewitz
“War is the continuation of diplomacy by other means”
"Wars not make one great!" - Master Yoda.
You sent greetings from Liverpool and I took the next train Passed by people putting flowers on graves, and we got delayed When I arrived, you had vanished like steam and left me in a diesel day So I walked around and spent ten pounds in amusement arcades.
To uinte PB's dodgy pop muzak and railway interests.
I note we have yet another Russian troll on the threads. It’s almost a daily occurrence nowadays
He’s playing really nicely though. He did have the nerve to suggest I needed to learn grammar yesterday, even though his points mainly use lower case…and ellipsis…rather than a full stop or indeed a dash. But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
As long as he doesn’t use one of these, I’m willing to tolerate him a little longer
• Heavy lifting • Colour me … • IANAE/IANAL • Feature, not a bug • Ad hom • This • It’s a view • North of (to mean more than) • As I’ve said passim • One of those irregular verbs • Late of this parish • Nail. Head. • Unspoofable
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I honestly think an american civil war would lead to a british civil war along similar lines...woke leftists vs the white working class...
I honestly think you're living in a fantasy world of your own.
Might seem farfetched but imagine coverage of an american civil war on our tv screens every night...we know how humans have a herd mentality
Don't be dumb. No one looks at news footage of another country tearing itself apart and thinks 'oh, maybe we should do that too'.
Also, re: "woke leftists vs the white working class". No one gives a shit about 'woke' beyond a few right-wing nut jobs (some of whom are on here). People care about not being able to pay their fuel bills, afford the rent/mortgage, do their weekly shop, get a doctors appointment if they need one. They worry about climate change, about their jobs, their kids getting a decent education, their older relatives having proper social care, whether an ambulance would turn up if they need one.
Stuff like that. Woke, not so much.
You are delusionally wrong. Woke is so advanced in America: and many people care
People like you reckon it is the same as a Daily Mail scare story from the 90s. You think this is "political correctness gone mad"
That's as bad an error as identifying Covid as "just another flu"
His song While You See A Chance, from Arc of a Diver, is my go-to song when I want to feel really really good about the life ahead. Triumphant and happy. Eager, thankful and glad
Specifically, it is the first song I listened to, in my Holborn flat in Red Lion Square, after I woke up after an endless party, which ensued amongst friends and family, following my acquittal of a rape charge at the Old Bailey, which had hung over my head for a year, with the threat of many years in jail
I woke up a totally free man, in my shared flat, covered in stains and reeking of champagne and with multiple memories blurred, and I played this song, and then I thought YAYYYYY and I went out there, a free man. Got laid that weekend, if I recall correctly
Gorgrous song, gorgeous singer. For bittersweet i rather like Up the Junction and Labelled with Love. In different ways just express the bleakness and shittiness of life.
He became drinker and she became mother, she knew that one day she'd be one or the other
I got a job with Stanley He said I'd come in handy And started me on Monday So I had a bath on Sunday I worked eleven hours And bought the girl some flowers She said she'd seen a doctor And nothing now could stop her
That's close to lyrical perfection, in its depiction of working class London life, with added pregnancy
The first 21 notes all downhill or the same as the previous note. Whether intentional due to the lyrics or not, it's an arresting start.
Gorgrous song, gorgeous singer. For bittersweet i rather like Up the Junction and Labelled with Love. In different ways just express the bleakness and shittiness of life.
He became drinker and she became mother, she knew that one day she'd be one or the other
I got a job with Stanley He said I'd come in handy And started me on Monday So I had a bath on Sunday I worked eleven hours And bought the girl some flowers She said she'd seen a doctor And nothing now could stop her
That's close to lyrical perfection, in its depiction of working class London life, with added pregnancy
Its fucking magic. Carter USM have some gold too, or a bit more up to date, Sheila by Jamie T is a classic. Plus Bob Hoskins is in the video
When I fall, no one catch me Alone lonely, I'll overdose slowly Get scared, I'll scream and shout But you know it won't matter she'll be passing out
I say, "Giggidibiggidi up" just another day Another sad story, that's tragedy Paramedic announced death at 10:30 Rip it up, kick it to spit up the views
Gorgrous song, gorgeous singer. For bittersweet i rather like Up the Junction and Labelled with Love. In different ways just express the bleakness and shittiness of life.
He became drinker and she became mother, she knew that one day she'd be one or the other
I got a job with Stanley He said I'd come in handy And started me on Monday So I had a bath on Sunday I worked eleven hours And bought the girl some flowers She said she'd seen a doctor And nothing now could stop her
That's close to lyrical perfection, in its depiction of working class London life, with added pregnancy
Its fucking magic. Carter USM have some gold too, or a bit more up to date, Shiela by Jamie T is a classic. Plus Bob Hoskins is in the video
When I fall, no one catch me Alone lonely, I'll overdose slowly Get scared, I'll scream and shout But you know it won't matter she'll be passing out
I say, "Giggidibiggidi up" just another day Another sad story, that's tragedy Paramedic announced death at 10:30 Rip it up, kick it to spit up the views
Knowing what USM means is always a bonus. As is
Now Sheriff Fatman started out in business As a granny farmer He was infamous for fifteen minutes And he appeared on Panorama Then he somehow got himself on board The Starship Enterprise Allowance Scheme With a Prince of Wales award For pushing Valium and amphetamines
Moving up on second base Behind Nicholas Van Wotsisface At six foot six and a hundred tons The undisputed king of the slums With more aliases than Klaus Barbie The master butcher of Leigh-on-Sea Just about to take the stage The one and only Hold the front page!
Tom Cotton won’t run for POTUS. He’s been calling major donors and supporters over the last few days informing them of his decision, citing family reasons
He’s the first potential candidate to make his plans known
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I honestly think an american civil war would lead to a british civil war along similar lines...woke leftists vs the white working class...
I honestly think you're living in a fantasy world of your own.
Might seem farfetched but imagine coverage of an american civil war on our tv screens every night...we know how humans have a herd mentality
Don't be dumb. No one looks at news footage of another country tearing itself apart and thinks 'oh, maybe we should do that too'.
Also, re: "woke leftists vs the white working class". No one gives a shit about 'woke' beyond a few right-wing nut jobs (some of whom are on here). People care about not being able to pay their fuel bills, afford the rent/mortgage, do their weekly shop, get a doctors appointment if they need one. They worry about climate change, about their jobs, their kids getting a decent education, their older relatives having proper social care, whether an ambulance would turn up if they need one.
Stuff like that. Woke, not so much.
You are delusionally wrong. Woke is so advanced in America: and many people care
People like you reckon it is the same as a Daily Mail scare story from the 90s. You think this is "political correctness gone mad"
That's as bad an error as identifying Covid as "just another flu"
wrong, it's the red scare for the 21st century.
So it's to the 21st century what communism was to the 20th century?
You sent greetings from Liverpool and I took the next train Passed by people putting flowers on graves, and we got delayed When I arrived, you had vanished like steam and left me in a diesel day So I walked around and spent ten pounds in amusement arcades.
To uinte PB's dodgy pop muzak and railway interests.
For 'trains in pop lyrics' I've always liked the line "Platform ticket, restless diesels, goodbye windows" from _White Room_...
Tom Cotton won’t run for POTUS. He’s been calling major donors and supporters over the last few days informing them of his decision, citing family reasons
He’s the first potential candidate to make his plans known
Cotton has attributed his decision to family concerns, saying that a national campaign would take him away from his two young sons, who are seven and five years old
Meanwhile in Russia: a pundit argues that younger men should be trained and sent into combat, so there are no widows or children to pay when they get killed. Another argument is that Russians over 40 are too worn out by alcohol consumption to run, jump or be any good in combat. https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1589035403105173504
Crowd shouting lock her up about Nancy Pelosi at a Trump rally . The Maga Trump Cult are despicable hate filled scum.
I couldn’t stomach being in the same room as them .
Trouble is the Trumpites know you hate them, and they think you started all this, so there's yer civil war, right there
In a civil war of the young and fit against the old and obese, only one side will win.
The side carrying bigger guns.
There won't be a civil war because the army and security services are not deserting and joining 'the other side'. There could be civil unrest. If there is a right wing secessionist movement it would need significant parts of the army and airforce to come over to its side. I find that unlikely.
Total bollocks sorry, I hear this a lot what does the right to bear arms matter when the us military has all these toys.
Well the us military had all the best toys in vietnam whereas the vietnamese had what comes under the heading right to bear arms....the us lost
ditto afghanistan.
Which is even before the fact that in a civil war half the us military is likely to defect taking their toys with them
Vietcong were happy to live in tunnels on half a bowl of rice a week. MAGGOTS less so. Helicopter gunships when they go on a Walmart run, and BOOM.
The vietcong were already used to that style of living largely it is irrelevant.
Conventional armies pitted against conventional armies the best equipped have an advantage.
Conventional army against a guerilla force that blends into the population and has the clandestine support of many....they dont do so good
I just don't think MAGA phatbois are going to melt into the jungle quite like Charlie did. Cut off their social security, foreclose on their trucks and their houses, track their mobiles.
If there is an American Civil War, it would be close. Closer than the last one
And I significantly doubt the loyalty of the US Military to Woke Democrats
In the last Civil War, the losing side was emotionally crippled by knowing - deep down - that they were morally in the wrong. And their opponents felt the opposite
Not the case here
I honestly think an american civil war would lead to a british civil war along similar lines...woke leftists vs the white working class...
I honestly think you're living in a fantasy world of your own.
Might seem farfetched but imagine coverage of an american civil war on our tv screens every night...we know how humans have a herd mentality
Don't be dumb. No one looks at news footage of another country tearing itself apart and thinks 'oh, maybe we should do that too'.
Also, re: "woke leftists vs the white working class". No one gives a shit about 'woke' beyond a few right-wing nut jobs (some of whom are on here). People care about not being able to pay their fuel bills, afford the rent/mortgage, do their weekly shop, get a doctors appointment if they need one. They worry about climate change, about their jobs, their kids getting a decent education, their older relatives having proper social care, whether an ambulance would turn up if they need one.
Stuff like that. Woke, not so much.
You are delusionally wrong. Woke is so advanced in America: and many people care
People like you reckon it is the same as a Daily Mail scare story from the 90s. You think this is "political correctness gone mad"
That's as bad an error as identifying Covid as "just another flu"
wrong, it's the red scare for the 21st century.
So it's to the 21st century what communism was to the 20th century?
More what Mccarthyism was in the 20th Century, on both sides.
Though the music recommendations on this thread are like Smooth FM on Valium. Not my cup of tea at all.
Music does bring back memories like Proust and his Madelaine, they are however very specific to individual, time and place.
I know what you mean. I did end up recommending a load of nineties tech house to a very intoxicated @casinoroyale once, but generally tastes on here are fairly MOR (which is fine, if you are in the mood for it)
1. Most Russian are not willing to sacrifice *themselves* in a war 2. But they're more than willing to sacrifice each other
For example:
Most youngsters are not willing to fight. But their grandparents are willing to sacrifice the youngsters
Kamil is one of the great revelations of the war. I note he’s derided by a number of fellow historians, but that’s because he has the chutzpah to say things that aren’t Russian studies orthodoxy.
Comments
https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1589360786774065153?s=20&t=6XXGHi9XwUtUrgpTAqcepQ
Then you have the Duke of Wellington, whose political opponents were highly critical of his constant retreats, yet somehow failed to notice he never lost a battle and conquered Spain and France as a result.
Their problem was that they arrived in a time of Pop Music Plenty, when there was so much talent exploding everywhere, some really good stuff was sneglected
That said, Wiki says they sold "6 million albums" which is pretty bloody impressive, so yay Del Amitri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Amitri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6WBcNuvkPI
Quite simply you are completely and utterly wrong. They are not decarbonising their economy: they are resisting pressure for net zero. They see it as an opportunity to steal a match in the foolish west
https://steveschmidt.substack.com/p/updated-the-little-eichmann?
… DeSantis can’t beat Trump in a primary because he isn’t tough enough. He lacks the character for direct confrontation with the big boss. He is a schemer. He wants to inherit the throne, not fight the king for it. Relations between the true seat of MAGA power and DeSantis’ backwater duchy are poor. Making a move against Trump requires courage, and the one thing that Trump is completely right about is his assessments around his court’s cowardice. He looks at DeSantis, and sees a punk. He knows that the diminutive bully strikes down, not up. Trump knows he’s weak even if the national political press corps hasn’t figured it out yet….
Of course the Justice Department might also get a say in whether or not Trump can run.
In this they were of course totally mistaken but it's not in itself an illogical train of thought. Had Lincoln been less resolute or had the Democrats had a majority in Congress it might even have worked.
We’ve seen the unfortunate consequence of untrained conscripts being flung at prepared defensive positions in recent days
Well, if it doth prosper, none dare call it treason.
There were two generals. Both slaveholders, although one freed his slaves in his lifetime and the other at his death. Both officially junior officers, although that was mostly to do with the ranking system rather than their actual seniority. Both from Virginia. Both were retired from the army. Both turned on the country to which they had sworn allegiance. One won all bar three of his battles but lost the war, the other won no major battles at all but won his war.
Which one is the villain and the loser?
Well, obviously the one who freed his slaves and won his battles.
Because the other is George Washington.
“War is the continuation of diplomacy by other means”
I was very persuaded by the "Differential Poll response casued by Democracts being more likely to be staying at home during Covid" as the reason why the 2020 polls in America were crap.
This polling group says they are seeing a disproportionate level of "Vax + Boosted" respondents in their polls
https://wickinsights.com/predicting2022-part-4/
If only they practiced it on their opponents and not on the Kremlin's auditors...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DwrHwZyFN7M
I'd be more worried about the police - they are semi-militarised in the states, long guns, APCs etc. If a few Republican Governors manage to persuade them to ignore federal law, would be very difficult for a President to make the order to take them out.
Does anyone know how the National Guard would react? They have a split loyalty.
Also, re: "woke leftists vs the white working class". No one gives a shit about 'woke' beyond a few right-wing nut jobs (some of whom are on here). People care about not being able to pay their fuel bills, afford the rent/mortgage, do their weekly shop, get a doctors appointment if they need one. They worry about climate change, about their jobs, their kids getting a decent education, their older relatives having proper social care, whether an ambulance would turn up if they need one. Stuff like that.
Woke, not so much.
Anybody expecting mutiny or barratry from any significant component of the US military will be disappointed.
People like you reckon it is the same as a Daily Mail scare story from the 90s. You think this is "political correctness gone mad"
That's as bad an error as identifying Covid as "just another flu"
The reason is geography. There is no geographical border between Republican and Democrat areas, and even in States like Florida or Texas the population has a major Democrat minority, and California a substantive Republican one.
That is not to say US politics isn't going to be toxic, and full of skullduggery, but war in any realistic sense of the word? Simply no.
And here, yes there is likely to be social hardship in a way not seen in over a decade, or even possibly since the early Eighties, but actually the difference between Starmarism and Sunakism is a matter of a few percent here and there. With the fall of Truss, the ideological divide ended. The financial speculators call the tune on both parties, and for that matter the SNP. Sovereignty? What sovereignty?
So not a "war", more massive localised unrest?
But he won’t be drawn on BA pilots or mRNA vaccines yet, so he’s cool, man.
I think a lot of this largely pointless civil war discussion is being viewed from a British perspective. US military officers are generally much better educated (I'm not saying better before the Little Englanders have a mass anal prolapse) than British ones and progressive political opinions are surprisingly common.
Every kid at West Point was an academic superstar at their high school. Every kid at Sandhurst was probably not...
• Heavy lifting
• Colour me …
• IANAE/IANAL
• Feature, not a bug
• Ad hom
• This
• It’s a view
• North of (to mean more than)
• As I’ve said passim
• One of those irregular verbs
• Late of this parish
• Nail. Head.
• Unspoofable
and the pathos behind the fragile optimism which you just know is not going to work out.
No particular personal reasons to speak of here, but nevertheless.
We saw though on Jan 6th 2021 the closest thing to an uprising*, and we saw how the official forces aligned themselves with government rather than party. It would be the same again.
*in no other developed country could we imagine the man who attempted a coup getting a party nomination for leader.
And yet it took my marriage to my 30-years-younger wife for her to point out that "actually, it ends really sadly"
I listened to it and loved it for decades without noticing this. I always thought it told a bittersweet story of Finally Escaping, but leaving people behind. Ooops
Perhaps that is a marker of a fabulous song. Or I am just an idiot
But it’s a close run thing.
By coincidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWFKKtvAvak
What a superb song
"I am not in love, but I am open to persuasion"
And Mr Soros is worth many billions. And doesn't live in Florida.
What is Mr DeSantis going to do to him: refuse him access to Disneyworld?
https://youtu.be/CoNtYC_XDC8
Though the music recommendations on this thread are like Smooth FM on Valium. Not my cup of tea at all.
Music does bring back memories like Proust and his Madelaine, they are however very specific to individual, time and place.
One of seven kids raised by a single parent in Blyth and without a single GCSE.
Who gave up her evening to make rainbow pronoun badges with her truck driver boyfriend for the staff?
For bittersweet i rather like Up the Junction and Labelled with Love. In different ways just express the bleakness and shittiness of life.
He became drinker and she became mother, she knew that one day she'd be one or the other
I've no doubt you would get extraordinarily diverse suggestions if you asked for mad new music to listen to. PB is good at that. I have found all kinds of music from recommendations on here, from Lebanese rock to Colombian swing
Back down, mister suburban, middlebrow, Leicester Doctor "status anxiety" @Foxy
Though I’m surprised you didn’t pick “Me Myself I”…
Pub quiz q: what do Up The Junction and Virginia Plain have in common?
He said I'd come in handy
And started me on Monday
So I had a bath on Sunday
I worked eleven hours
And bought the girl some flowers
She said she'd seen a doctor
And nothing now could stop her
That's close to lyrical perfection, in its depiction of working class London life, with added pregnancy
Tom Cotton won’t run for POTUS. He’s been calling major donors and supporters over the last few days informing them of his decision, citing family reasons
He’s the first potential candidate to make his plans known
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/06/tom-cotton-passes-on-2024-presidential-run-00065334
Passed by people putting flowers on graves, and we got delayed
When I arrived, you had vanished like steam and left me in a diesel day
So I walked around and spent ten pounds in amusement arcades.
To uinte PB's dodgy pop muzak and railway interests.
His song While You See A Chance, from Arc of a Diver, is my go-to song when I want to feel really really good about the life ahead. Triumphant and happy. Eager, thankful and glad
Specifically, it is the first song I listened to, in my Holborn flat in Red Lion Square, after I woke up after an endless party, which ensued amongst friends and family, following my acquittal of a rape charge at the Old Bailey, which had hung over my head for a year, with the threat of many years in jail
I woke up a totally free man, in my shared flat, covered in stains and reeking of champagne and with multiple memories blurred, and I played this song, and then I thought YAYYYYY and I went out there, a free man. Got laid that weekend, if I recall correctly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp-kCenQ9HE
Carter USM have some gold too, or a bit more up to date, Sheila by Jamie T is a classic. Plus Bob Hoskins is in the video
When I fall, no one catch me
Alone lonely, I'll overdose slowly
Get scared, I'll scream and shout
But you know it won't matter she'll be passing out
I say, "Giggidibiggidi up" just another day
Another sad story, that's tragedy
Paramedic announced death at 10:30
Rip it up, kick it to spit up the views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLLQFLXz6VE
Now Sheriff Fatman started out in business
As a granny farmer
He was infamous for fifteen minutes
And he appeared on Panorama
Then he somehow got himself on board
The Starship Enterprise Allowance Scheme
With a Prince of Wales award
For pushing Valium and amphetamines
Moving up on second base
Behind Nicholas Van Wotsisface
At six foot six and a hundred tons
The undisputed king of the slums
With more aliases than Klaus Barbie
The master butcher of Leigh-on-Sea
Just about to take the stage
The one and only
Hold the front page!
“Last night I heard the screaming
Then a silence that chilled my soul”
I laid him too early; have laid a bit more.
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1589359859283406848
That's a major misunderstanding:
1. Most Russian are not willing to sacrifice *themselves* in a war
2. But they're more than willing to sacrifice each other
For example:
Most youngsters are not willing to fight. But their grandparents are willing to sacrifice the youngsters
Incidentally. A superb pop star name. Like Jimi Hendrix and Suzi Quattro. All their real names.
Cotton has attributed his decision to family concerns, saying that a national campaign would take him away from his two young sons, who are seven and five years old
Sure Tom, we believe you.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1589035403105173504
Yes I think I'm okay
I walked into the door again
If you ask that's what I'll say
And it's not your business anyway
I know what you mean. I did end up recommending a load of nineties tech house to a very intoxicated @casinoroyale once, but generally tastes on here are fairly MOR (which is fine, if you are in the mood for it)