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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,282
    edited October 2022
    ping said:

    I wonder if Sunak can engineer a way to remove the whip from Liz Truss?

    I guess the instinct in the Tory party will be to try to forget and bury the truss experiment, but it won’t work.

    It is hard to see why she would want to remain a politician; what cause or policy can she now champion with any credibility?

    Meanwhile, we should get some reassurance from having seen that some Conservatives at least are still capable of coming up with a plan and implementing it.

    It would be fascinating to know what levers were pulled on Johnson to get him to do what many said he wouldn’t - although as others have said the story could just as easily be that his support was never there. I’d guess his list was coming under pressure over the weekend and he was losing people as well as gaining them.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,282

    Yokes said:

    On topic, so exactly why cant anyone else, with mere hours to go, get the nominations other than Sunak?

    Penny Mordaunt aims to do just that. And, at least in principle, Jacob Rees-Mogg or any other erstwhile Boris fan could declare now and aim to sweep up en bloc all of Boris's 102-ish supporters. So can anyone else, although realistically it is too late to start, given how many MPs are already committed to rival campaigns.

    The deadline is 2pm.
    There are 8 hours left. Virtually no-one is coming over to Penny.

    It's over.
    Few MPs want another week and a members contest, with all the bad blood and blue and blue it would generate in the media and on social media.

    Penny’s earned her kudos and simply needs to cash it in.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,067
    MikeL said:

    Chris Mason said on BBC that Charles is only back in London this evening.

    Which means if Sunak takes over this evening he wouldn't enter Downing Street in daylight - which is usually seen as important for the images etc.

    Remember Gordon Brown reportedly made a big point about leaving in daylight when he had stayed for several days after the 2010 GE.

    So even IF Sunak is declared the winner today, he may wait till Tuesday morning to go and see Charles.

    It was dark by the time Cameron went to the palace.

    https://youtu.be/GI27QSraM4M
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,335
    Saw the trailer for the new Crown series.

    Fantastical nonsense.

    Think I'll give it a miss.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,282
    Now we can turn our attention to Sunak’s cabinet….
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981
    edited October 2022
    IanB2 said:

    ping said:

    I wonder if Sunak can engineer a way to remove the whip from Liz Truss?

    I guess the instinct in the Tory party will be to try to forget and bury the truss experiment, but it won’t work.

    It is hard to see why she would want to remain a politician; what cause or policy can she now champion with any credibility? ....
    It is hard to see what cause or policy she ever championed with any credibility. Or ability...

    It is why I thought she would never be any use in high office.
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,340
    IanB2 said:

    Now we can turn our attention to Sunak’s cabinet….

    Yes. It’ll be a right pain to find furniture to match that dreadful decoration.
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    maxhmaxh Posts: 825
    PB brain, please help, my brain has deserted me…
    I am on a drop zone in statistically* the sunniest place in Europe and it’s raining so I’m bored. I am trying to find the nuclear apocalypse film that @Leon was getting his knickers in a twist about a couple of weeks ago, but I can’t remember what it’s called. Please help! Thank you, sorry for being too lazy to hunt back through threads…oh.

    I think I will actually post this because it has amused me no end. Very self-indulgent, sorry. (The film is called Threads, and writing the last line of the paragraph caused me to remember that)

    *I haven’t actually checked the stats.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,335
    IanB2 said:

    Now we can turn our attention to Sunak’s cabinet….

    We will get 48 hours of tediously woke takes on his ethnicity and religion (with people virtue-signalling about it all over LinkedIn) until we get to that. It might spill into what it means for "the Asian community" and relations with India too.

    Oh Lord, spare me.

    I supported Rishi because he's by far the best candidate for the job. But it can never just be about that these days.
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 5,262
    edited October 2022
    Good morning. It's a bright day. It's a new dawn. Rejoice!

    Hopefully now we will see the back of:

    Jacob Rees-Mogg's endless drivel
    Nadine Dorries' deranged starry-eyed sycophancy
    Stanley Johnson telling the nation how wonderful his son is
    and
    Michael Fabricant's wig
    Bond villain Sir Richard Drax
    Sir Deadwood Leigh
    Christopher NoHope
    Peter Bonehead
    John Dreadwood
    etc. etc. ...

    but above all the wicked clown and arch LIAR IN CHIEF, Boris Johnson

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    darkagedarkage Posts: 4,796
    IanB2 said:

    ping said:

    I wonder if Sunak can engineer a way to remove the whip from Liz Truss?

    I guess the instinct in the Tory party will be to try to forget and bury the truss experiment, but it won’t work.

    It is hard to see why she would want to remain a politician; what cause or policy can she now champion with any credibility?

    Meanwhile, we should get some reassurance from having seen that some Conservatives at least are still capable of coming up with a plan and implementing it.

    It would be fascinating to know what levers were pulled on Johnson to get him to do what many said he wouldn’t - although as others have said the story could just as easily be that his support was never there. I’d guess his list was coming under pressure over the weekend and he was losing people as well as gaining them.
    At least the conservative party have managed to 'sort out' the mess in a week or so.

    On Johnson; there is enough circumstantial evidence to see what was probably going on - not enough actual support amongst MP's. He was supported by the likely enemies of Sunak and backbenchers under pressure from their constituents/local party. Not a winning force. So he built an 'off ramp' where he can claim to be 'standing aside to save the party'. To his credit, at least took this step. It is one way in which he is an improvement over Trump.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,637
    maxh said:

    PB brain, please help, my brain has deserted me…
    I am on a drop zone in statistically* the sunniest place in Europe and it’s raining so I’m bored. I am trying to find the nuclear apocalypse film that @Leon was getting his knickers in a twist about a couple of weeks ago, but I can’t remember what it’s called. Please help! Thank you, sorry for being too lazy to hunt back through threads…oh.

    I think I will actually post this because it has amused me no end. Very self-indulgent, sorry. (The film is called Threads, and writing the last line of the paragraph caused me to remember that)

    *I haven’t actually checked the stats.

    made the mistake of looking at Leon's profile picture while searching.

    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/profile/comments/Leon
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    StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 7,045
    IanB2 said:

    Now we can turn our attention to Sunak’s cabinet….

    He shouldn’t keep the Cheval Blanc next to the Grand-Echezeaux. Very different wines.
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