Well, I can live with Rishi. I don't think he's going to set the world alight and, no, I don't think he can beat Labour next time. But we have a chance now to enter a period of some stability with sensible, grown up politicians, trying to do the right things for this country.
Does this mean everyone is supporting Penny on here now? 😈
I'd prefer her to Sunak, by a very small margin, but it seems highly unlikely. The anonymous briefing from his team would start before she even got back from seeing Charles.
Does this mean everyone is supporting Penny on here now? 😈
I've been backing Sunak for a couple of years mate. Buuuuut there is no way that the foamer wing of the Tory party will just accept defeat. Sunak almost certain to be PM this time tomorrow, but as he pulls apart all of their dreams they are going to do all they can to wreck him.
Surely this'll end the ministerial career of the miserable streak of piss Jacob Rees- Mogg and Mad Nad Dorries
I hope so too, but Rishi does have to keep the swivel eyed loons onside. Perhaps put them where they can do little harm. In charge of tea and biscuits Perhaps.
Does this mean everyone is supporting Penny on here now? 😈
I've been backing Sunak for a couple of years mate. Buuuuut there is no way that the foamer wing of the Tory party will just accept defeat. Sunak almost certain to be PM this time tomorrow, but as he pulls apart all of their dreams they are going to do all they can to wreck him.
And this hate-filled prediction will be more accurate than your hate-filled predictions that Boris would win, because...?
'“Last night I did a lot of planning,” he says, “trying to find this morning’s best London train action. And passing through Willesden now are your standard passenger trains, and aggregate and intermodal freight services, but also…” he cuts himself off, hearing something in the distance. “There it is,” he says, as a train appears on the horizon right on cue. “It’s the British Pullman [...]”'
Was all a bit "sliding doors" this morning. Hesitated for a couple of minutes at the bus stop on the way to Gants Hill, and by the time I decided to walk there, just missed a westbound train by seconds, then had to wait 15 minutes for the next Central line!
This in turn made me miss the 1032 from Paddington to Didcot (in order to reach Twyford), so I had to get the 1045 service to Reading, which left 7 minutes late! Managed to get the 1145 from Twyford to Henley. Um, this was in order to visit all three stations on the branch (inc. Shiplake and Wargrave). Back in March, they were added to the London Contactless travel area (along with Windsor Central), and the four Marlow branch stations were also added in May. However, the Marlow branch was closed! Engineering works till Halloween!
And as if that wasn't enough, the 1441 from Reading to Redhill, normally going out of platform 15, the most northerly, then under the GWR main line to connect with the normal Southern Railway route towards Wokingham, was re-platformed to platform 5 at around 1442(!), thus precluding me from doing that little underpass beneath the main line!
Does this mean everyone is supporting Penny on here now? 😈
I'd prefer her to Sunak, by a very small margin, but it seems highly unlikely. The anonymous briefing from his team would start before she even got back from seeing Charles.
Anonymous briefings?
I don't know but the Press don't seem that keen on Sunak which strikes me as a good thing.
Hold on, Boris allies were briefing that they passed the 100 point yesterday afternoon, and now here we are Sunday night and Boris claims he finished with 102.
They spent all weekend manufacturing bull-shit while claiming that Boris has changed. What a pack of shit-stains.
Does this mean everyone is supporting Penny on here now? 😈
I've been backing Sunak for a couple of years mate. Buuuuut there is no way that the foamer wing of the Tory party will just accept defeat. Sunak almost certain to be PM this time tomorrow, but as he pulls apart all of their dreams they are going to do all they can to wreck him.
And this hate-filled prediction will be more accurate than your hate-filled predictions that Boris would win, because...?
I said that if Boris made the ballot he would win. He hasn't made the ballot.
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
Jacob Rees-Mogg Chris Pincher Stanley Johnson Downing Street’s various puff photographers Whoever paid for the wallpaper The kid who got rugby-tackled years ago The woman next to me on the flight from Dominican Republic Darius Guppy Lord Lucan
(cont)
Nadine Dorries The non-existent actors that she claimed were hired by Channel 4 Dilyn the dog Dilyn’s friend Rover Owen Paterson Kenneth Branagh Cincinnatus’s Wikipedia page Joris Bohnson Anyone who wants to appear on my next resignation honours list
Does this mean everyone is supporting Penny on here now? 😈
I'd prefer her to Sunak, by a very small margin, but it seems highly unlikely. The anonymous briefing from his team would start before she even got back from seeing Charles.
Anonymous briefings?
I don't know but the Press don't seem that keen on Sunak which strikes me as a good thing.
She was the target of some nasty and disgusting briefings last time, it surprises me that she would want to go through all that again.
Does anyone seriously believed he had enough nominations to stand but chose not to ?.
No. If he really had the numbers he would fancy his chances with the members vote. You don't qualify for a final, by any route, and then say I'm not going to play.
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
Given the "Rishi must die!!!" tone of early messages out of the Boris campaign, don't be surprised if they go en masse to Penny to force a vote with members.....
Penny won’t push it to a contest - also part of the plan
But....she could beat Rishi - who the members hate.
If she pulls out, she has whatever job she wants. Plus the gratitude of the nation that this current shit-show is over.
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
Jacob Rees-Mogg Chris Pincher Stanley Johnson Downing Street’s various puff photographers Whoever paid for the wallpaper The kid who got rugby-tackled years ago The woman next to me on the flight from Dominican Republic Darius Guppy Lord Lucan
(cont)
Nadine Dorries The non-existent actors that she claimed were hired by Channel 4 Dilyn the dog Dilyn’s friend Rover Owen Paterson Kenneth Branagh Cincinnatus’s Wikipedia page Joris Bohnson Anyone who wants to appear on my next resignation honours list
The signs were there yesterday that Boris didn't have the 100. If he was ever confident he would have announced it. Either Rishi or Penny will do fine.
Now @BorisJohnson has pulled out of the contest, I will be joining @RishiSunak team. Rishi is experienced, competent and will make a great PM. He has the support of all wings of the Conservative Party and will be able to unite the Party and provide stability for the Country. https://twitter.com/davidmorrisml/status/1584280446640144384
Jacob Rees-Mogg Chris Pincher Stanley Johnson Downing Street’s various puff photographers Whoever paid for the wallpaper The kid who got rugby-tackled years ago The woman next to me on the flight from Dominican Republic Darius Guppy Lord Lucan
(cont)
Nadine Dorries The non-existent actors that she claimed were hired by Channel 4 Dilyn the dog Dilyn’s friend Rover Owen Paterson Kenneth Branagh Cincinnatus’s Wikipedia page Joris Bohnson Anyone who wants to appear on my next resignation honours list
@Richard_Tyndall I took so long to reply to you on the last thread it died. It is there though although I think @TimS answered better.
Re less control of MPs by parties I completely agree. See my post on the last thread. We have discussed this before and agreed. I would like to see the Whips gone.
Nadhim Zahawi @nadhimzahawi · 5m A day is a long time in politics...
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
Jacob Rees-Mogg Chris Pincher Stanley Johnson Downing Street’s various puff photographers Whoever paid for the wallpaper The kid who got rugby-tackled years ago The woman next to me on the flight from Dominican Republic Darius Guppy Lord Lucan
(cont)
Nadine Dorries The non-existent actors that she claimed were hired by Channel 4 Dilyn the dog Dilyn’s friend Rover Owen Paterson Kenneth Branagh Cincinnatus’s Wikipedia page Joris Bohnson Anyone who wants to appear on my next resignation honours list
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
Hold on, Boris allies were briefing that they passed the 100 point yesterday afternoon, and now here we are Sunday night and Boris claims he finished with 102.
They spent all weekend manufacturing bull-shit while claiming that Boris has changed. What a pack of shit-stains.
Chris Heaton-Harris is on my shit list. Because of his bullshit I modified my position a bit and that cost me £80 extra profit.
Does this mean everyone is supporting Penny on here now? 😈
I've been backing Sunak for a couple of years mate. Buuuuut there is no way that the foamer wing of the Tory party will just accept defeat. Sunak almost certain to be PM this time tomorrow, but as he pulls apart all of their dreams they are going to do all they can to wreck him.
And this hate-filled prediction will be more accurate than your hate-filled predictions that Boris would win, because...?
I said that if Boris made the ballot he would win. He hasn't made the ballot.
The thing is, as mentioned by others below, she doesn't come across as someone who wants to destroy the party. Unlike Boris Johnson who would destroy anything so long as it got him power and revenge.
So like most others I reckon she will withdraw with a job offer.
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
"And though I have reached out to both Rishi and Penny – because I hoped that we could come together in the national interest – we have sadly not been able to work out a way of doing this."
I am looking forward to hearing what the lying fuckwit was offering Sunak and Mordaunt.
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
"And though I have reached out to both Rishi and Penny – because I hoped that we could come together in the national interest – we have sadly not been able to work out a way of doing this."
I am looking forward to hearing what the lying fuckwit was offering Sunak and Mordaunt.
'You can have your old jobs back'?
is this really language you think appropriate to a website like this - honestly getting tired of this type of language which is getting very common and its pretty juvenile and unpleasant to read- i think i have had enough so going to leave the site
"And though I have reached out to both Rishi and Penny – because I hoped that we could come together in the national interest – we have sadly not been able to work out a way of doing this."
I am looking forward to hearing what the lying fuckwit was offering Sunak and Mordaunt.
'You can have your old jobs back'?
The arrogance is extraordinary. Not that we should be surprised, of course.
What happens if MPs vote 250 Sunak, 105 Mordaunt, and Mordaunt wins the membership vote?
She becomes Tory leader and PM.
But, that won't happen. I expect a good chunk of Boris's support to now go Rishi, most of the rest to huff and puff in silence, and Mordaunt to gain only a dozen or so and then she'll pull out tomorrow morning.
Hold on, Boris allies were briefing that they passed the 100 point yesterday afternoon, and now here we are Sunday night and Boris claims he finished with 102.
They spent all weekend manufacturing bull-shit while claiming that Boris has changed. What a pack of shit-stains.
Chris Heaton-Harris is on my shit list. Because of his bullshit I modified my position a bit and that cost me £80 extra profit.
Twat.
As former chairman of the ERG and a key Boris stooge he was never OFF my shitlist.
Well done on calling this so well, and on your wins. Deserved.
Surely this'll end the ministerial career of the miserable streak of piss Jacob Rees- Mogg and Mad Nad Dorries
I hope so too, but Rishi does have to keep the swivel eyed loons onside. Perhaps put them where they can do little harm. In charge of tea and biscuits Perhaps.
I'd be wary of putting a former public school boy like Rees Mogg in charge of the biscuits.
"And though I have reached out to both Rishi and Penny – because I hoped that we could come together in the national interest – we have sadly not been able to work out a way of doing this."
I am looking forward to hearing what the lying fuckwit was offering Sunak and Mordaunt.
'You can have your old jobs back'?
is this really language you think appropriate to a website like this - honestly getting tired of this type of language which is getting very common and its pretty juvenile and unpleasant to read- i think i have had enough so going to leave the site
It does look like most of the MPs are going to put Rishi as far ahead as they can. Penny’s poor showing is disappointing, but she’ll throw her support behind Rishi on Monday morning and get a top job out of it.
It doesn't matter how far ahead Sunak is unless Johnson fails to get 100.
I’m not convinced this is a shoe in for Johnson if he makes the final two .
I think the fact he’s still under investigation could be a big factor .
It’s Sunak, trust me. Brady and co knew that when they announced the vote; the Cabinet knew that when they met at the Carlton Club. Johnson may not make the hundred, and if he does there will be the most intense pressure for him to withdraw and play ball.
It’s obvious Sunak will top the MPs poll by miles. The Tories - as has everyone else - understand that Truss’s problem was not being the MPs’ choice. They won’t make that mistake again. All Brady’s comments about the member stage were carefully worded, hedged to indicate it may or may not happen, and they are relaxed about the logistics and practical problems because it’s not going to happen.
Sunak will be PM Monday evening.
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Exactly - you can feel the way things are going, there are clues everywhere.
Yes, if Johnson gets 100, he could probably win. But he’ll have such opposition within the party hierarchy, he’ll be presented with a list of people who won’t work with him and a list of those who will leave the party. He may be presented with details of other stuff, so far only rumoured deep on the internet, that he wouldn’t want made public. There are dozens of levers the party will be able to bring to bear, and he’ll understand them all too well. He won’t run.
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I can live with that.
Where's BJO when you need his particular brand of misery to bring you back to earth?
https://twitter.com/BloombergUK/status/1584279341466521601
I don't know but the Press don't seem that keen on Sunak which strikes me as a good thing.
https://twitter.com/ScottMcShagger/status/1583928880326356992
They spent all weekend manufacturing bull-shit while claiming that Boris has changed.
What a pack of shit-stains.
Zahawi has always been a self serving sleazeball
A day is a long time in politics...
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584280847141638144
He’s an utter charlatan.
Became even smaller as she hunched in her later years.
This guy is totally without shame
Worth a late tickle?
Jacob Rees-Mogg
Chris Pincher
Stanley Johnson
Downing Street’s various puff photographers
Whoever paid for the wallpaper
The kid who got rugby-tackled years ago
The woman next to me on the flight from Dominican Republic
Darius Guppy
Lord Lucan
(cont)
Nadine Dorries
The non-existent actors that she claimed were hired by Channel 4
Dilyn the dog
Dilyn’s friend Rover
Owen Paterson
Kenneth Branagh
Cincinnatus’s Wikipedia page
Joris Bohnson
Anyone who wants to appear on my next resignation honours list
https://twitter.com/henrymance/status/1584278783132983296
That's a Lance Stroll level of u-turning.
Including the wreckage in the middle of the track!
https://twitter.com/davidmorrisml/status/1584280446640144384
Re less control of MPs by parties I completely agree. See my post on the last thread. We have discussed this before and agreed. I would like to see the Whips gone.
He would establish “free armies” that would turn out to be about 10 mercenaries and Toby Young.
He would dictate new rules of combat for the armed forces that mandate “synthetic bayonet fighting” in all engagements with the enemy.
Ok this is MoD not FO really but you get the point. And frankly Gove can. FO, that is.
Nadhim Zahawi
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A day is a long time in politics...
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
'I control nearly a third of your party. Make me a big player in your cabinet.'
I don't think Sunak is stupid enough to buy it, but you never know. Even sixty Johnson backers being difficult would rob him of his majority.
Just the Telegraph to drop. You may all now bow down to my genius.
Thank you Boris the Troll.
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584280847141638144?s=61&t=iLn__RZtL2RxpDip6nHTsA
Twat.
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/4186774#Comment_4186774
So like most others I reckon she will withdraw with a job offer.
Our story here as Boris pulls out of leadership race, by @Jack_Blanchard_ https://www.politico.eu/article/boris-johnson-pulls-out-of-race-to-be-next-uk-prime-minister/
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
I am looking forward to hearing what the lying fuckwit was offering Sunak and Mordaunt.
'You can have your old jobs back'?
@KevinASchofield
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Nadhim Zahawi at 9pm: "Get ready for Boris 2.0, the man who will make the Tories and Britain great again.
Nadhim Zahawi at 9.29pm ...
Rishi announced as PM tomorrow
Hopefully some stability, a sensible Cabinet, sensible prudent policies and a sensible way forward to meet our challenges
👍
But, that won't happen. I expect a good chunk of Boris's support to now go Rishi, most of the rest to huff and puff in silence, and Mordaunt to gain only a dozen or so and then she'll pull out tomorrow morning.
Well done on calling this so well, and on your wins. Deserved.
Very safe seat, he has backed BoZo to the hilt from day one.