Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. Sign in or register to get started.

Retaining Senate control would be a huge boost for Biden – politicalbetting.com

123457»

Comments

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,687
    WillG said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    House of the Dragon is a bit shit

    Zero interest in watching it, after Game of Thrones completely trashed their brand with the final series.

    The upcoming show that interests me the most is The Peripheral, based on William Gibson's 2014 book of the same name. Released later this month on Amazon Prime. Gibson's work has always translated terribly to the screen in the past, but this looks interesting.

    Without spoilers - AI, near future, semi-apocalypse (known as "the jackpot", where most people just die out due to a combination of famine and war) and a Russian kleptocracy in charge of future London (a bit dated in that respect).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdkRQzcrrc
    It's a mystery tho. The script is so.... dull

    They had essentially infinite amounts of money and surely hired the best screenwriters. Yet the characters are flat and the dialogue is all sub-par cheapo fantasy Dungeons and Dragons wank

    "The realm will not tolerate the end of these shipping lanes, my liege!"

    Everyone knows that Game of Thrones worked because it was funny and outrageous and the dialogue crackled along. This is boring. A bit Woke, I fear

    But it's not just mild Wokeness, the CGI isn't very good. The dragons are unconvincing. Odd
    The infinte amounts of money are probably the cause. The original game of thrones came with far fewer expectations, so probably the creators had a great deal of creative license.

    This sequel, though, will be written by dozens of people, whittled down into bland mediocrity, and given the death-by-a-thousand-notes treatment by studio execs. Too many stakeholders and too much at stake. Leading to utter blandness as every choice becomes a compromise between many differing opinions.

    Great art is created by individuals and auteurs - I imagine Dungeons and Dragons or whatever it is called is designed by committee.
    Yes, you are almost certainly right

    Too many people with too much money invested, all offering an opinion, like a hundred chefs chucking in their own ingredient, you end up with a mush

    It's mush. What a waste of money

    Also quite shit direction and production. Some of the props and scenery are laughably, comically bad, which is near inexplicable
    Definitely agree the dragons are shite.

    There's something strangely detached about the whole thing.

    Yes, it is peculiar. Like watching a movie through a grey gauze. It is inert and dull

    Game of Thrones was regularly confusing, annoying, irritating, outrageous... but never boring. NEVER BORING

    But there are other things: I just saw a prop horse carriage, it looked like something comedically shit from a cheap BBC medieval-scifi drama in the 70s. What is that about? They have endless money



    Although Paddy is brilliant. That might be part of the problem. It's like a serious top drawer RSC actor has wandered onto the set of the twelfth and possibly final series of some middle grade cable TV fantasy show.
    Meh. He does quite well with an awfully inane script

    It honestly feels like someone sabotaged this. It is that bad. Someone tunnelled in and made sure they got a shit Woke script and some eerily terrible SFX and a totally lacklustre plot and.... everything. It's really REALLY dismal

    How much cash did they spunk on this crap? This is the Ukrainian invasion of TV series. A colossal waste
    Only $20m per episode.
    Sweet Jesus Christ. And it's TERRIBLE

    It's a crime
    Nah, try Rings of Power if you want terrible. My wife and I are hate watching it at this point. It's so awful. Terribly written, full of the most idiotic tropes, characters that make absolutely no sense and an overall disregard for the outstanding source material that Tolkien wrote.
    OMG I hoped that was slightly better. I am going to have to abandon this Game of Dragons SHITE

    And Wokeness is *one* of the problems with this series (but far from the only problem). They have cast black actors who are clearly shit, and slow down the action, and are squirmingly not good, and they are there for WOKE REASONS

    Is the Rings of Power the same? Sounds like it is

    So that's about half a billion dollars wasted on terrible Woke TV drama. The West is finished
    I love LOTR but wouldn't bother watching films that are based on the books or have anything to do with the books. It's not possible for a film to match up to those books.

    But how was the money wasted? Is no-one buying the adspace?

    Youngsters etc. who think J R R Tolkien was some author kinda like a precursor of G R R Martin are simply morons.

    Regarding "Game of Thrones" and the written version "A Song of Ice and Fire", which have been so seminal, I have to admit that my attitude is "F*ck freedom". I'd love to see this illiterature banned. The books are aimed at those with a reading age of 11, meaning children plus adults who are literally retarded. (You can check this by applying the SMOG readability test.) I'd love to see retrospective legislation and the makers and distributors jailed for life without parole, with all their profits seized. I know a young person with mental health difficulties that reading these books caused to deteriorate drastically, snowballing to cause consequences that are far too horrible to describe here. This wasn't the only cause, but one is reminded of the saying "Kill one person and they call you a murderer; kill 10000 and they call you a conqueror." Writing stab stab stab rape rape rape stuff and feeding it to a single youngster would get a parent into deep trouble with social services - and rightly so. Feeding it to millions wins a team of people cultural accolades. There has to be some social responsibility somewhere along the line.

    Libertarians can call me a Stalinist or a Nazi or whatever. Some literature should be banned by the state - sorry.
    Which state might that be? Would it be Russia, perchance?
    The desire to ban ideas you don't like is fairly core to every intellectually weak belief system. Whether it's Putinists, Islamists, Bolsheviks or National Socialists, they all know their ideology can't actually withstand criticism so other ideas have to be forbidden so theirs can maintain hegemony. People with good ideas are much happier to have them debated, because they know their ideas will come out on top.
    I think it's more that they *fear* that their belief system cannot withstand criticism.

    Then, of course, they hire people to post nonsense to internet forums. For no entirely obvious reason.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,391
    edited October 2022
    IshmaelZ said:

    GIN1138 said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Toms said:

    I have now had five Covidic jabs of various types. None of them had much apparent effect. Two days ago I had an mrna jab and a flu jab in different arms. No particular effect there either. In fact I've had good solid workouts on the turbo trainer, as for the last 11,000 miles since lock down. Am I a peddling zombie?

    More importantly---is Charles still about? I'm only only an occasional PB watcher, but I haven't seen him for a while. I found him human and knowledgeable about things of which I know naught. And from social regions outside my ken.

    Charles decided to stop posting because he didn't like the comments from another poster who claimed to know his family.
    That's nasty. Getting towards stalking?

    I'm surprised OGH and Smithson The Younger tolerated that!
    Absolute fucking nonsense. There was no doxxing element to it, but anyway he posted links to the obituary of some frankly uninteresting old posh buffer who he said was his dad, prompting multiple posts of Oh Charles how awful, I am not upper class enough myself to have had a father but even so I can vaguely see how it must feel to lose one. As the old buffer was called let's say Wayne Potts, it doesn’t take the offspring of sherlock Holmes and Bertrand Russell to deduce Charles's surname.
    Calm down, clam down, clam down. I was just going by what @LostPassword posted. If you are comfortable with what you posted about Charles then fair enough. I wasn't around at the time so it's not for me to judge! 😇
    I'm clam as fcku.
    Maybe! But then you chose to reply to me almost within minutes... Which suggests you were maybe not so calm? 🤷‍♂️

    Like I said, it's not for me to judge. You chose to threaten to "expose" Charles and his family on an internet forum (which ultimately lead him to leave the site) If you are comfortable with this behaviour then fair enough but your almost instant reply to my post suggesting you might not have acted with the best of intentions suggests to me you are probably very uncomfortable with the way you behaved but don't want to admit it...

    In the end I won't judge as it's not my place. But maybe you are judging yourself at this point???
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366
    rcs1000 said:

    WillG said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    House of the Dragon is a bit shit

    Zero interest in watching it, after Game of Thrones completely trashed their brand with the final series.

    The upcoming show that interests me the most is The Peripheral, based on William Gibson's 2014 book of the same name. Released later this month on Amazon Prime. Gibson's work has always translated terribly to the screen in the past, but this looks interesting.

    Without spoilers - AI, near future, semi-apocalypse (known as "the jackpot", where most people just die out due to a combination of famine and war) and a Russian kleptocracy in charge of future London (a bit dated in that respect).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdkRQzcrrc
    It's a mystery tho. The script is so.... dull

    They had essentially infinite amounts of money and surely hired the best screenwriters. Yet the characters are flat and the dialogue is all sub-par cheapo fantasy Dungeons and Dragons wank

    "The realm will not tolerate the end of these shipping lanes, my liege!"

    Everyone knows that Game of Thrones worked because it was funny and outrageous and the dialogue crackled along. This is boring. A bit Woke, I fear

    But it's not just mild Wokeness, the CGI isn't very good. The dragons are unconvincing. Odd
    The infinte amounts of money are probably the cause. The original game of thrones came with far fewer expectations, so probably the creators had a great deal of creative license.

    This sequel, though, will be written by dozens of people, whittled down into bland mediocrity, and given the death-by-a-thousand-notes treatment by studio execs. Too many stakeholders and too much at stake. Leading to utter blandness as every choice becomes a compromise between many differing opinions.

    Great art is created by individuals and auteurs - I imagine Dungeons and Dragons or whatever it is called is designed by committee.
    Yes, you are almost certainly right

    Too many people with too much money invested, all offering an opinion, like a hundred chefs chucking in their own ingredient, you end up with a mush

    It's mush. What a waste of money

    Also quite shit direction and production. Some of the props and scenery are laughably, comically bad, which is near inexplicable
    Definitely agree the dragons are shite.

    There's something strangely detached about the whole thing.

    Yes, it is peculiar. Like watching a movie through a grey gauze. It is inert and dull

    Game of Thrones was regularly confusing, annoying, irritating, outrageous... but never boring. NEVER BORING

    But there are other things: I just saw a prop horse carriage, it looked like something comedically shit from a cheap BBC medieval-scifi drama in the 70s. What is that about? They have endless money



    Although Paddy is brilliant. That might be part of the problem. It's like a serious top drawer RSC actor has wandered onto the set of the twelfth and possibly final series of some middle grade cable TV fantasy show.
    Meh. He does quite well with an awfully inane script

    It honestly feels like someone sabotaged this. It is that bad. Someone tunnelled in and made sure they got a shit Woke script and some eerily terrible SFX and a totally lacklustre plot and.... everything. It's really REALLY dismal

    How much cash did they spunk on this crap? This is the Ukrainian invasion of TV series. A colossal waste
    Only $20m per episode.
    Sweet Jesus Christ. And it's TERRIBLE

    It's a crime
    Nah, try Rings of Power if you want terrible. My wife and I are hate watching it at this point. It's so awful. Terribly written, full of the most idiotic tropes, characters that make absolutely no sense and an overall disregard for the outstanding source material that Tolkien wrote.
    OMG I hoped that was slightly better. I am going to have to abandon this Game of Dragons SHITE

    And Wokeness is *one* of the problems with this series (but far from the only problem). They have cast black actors who are clearly shit, and slow down the action, and are squirmingly not good, and they are there for WOKE REASONS

    Is the Rings of Power the same? Sounds like it is

    So that's about half a billion dollars wasted on terrible Woke TV drama. The West is finished
    I love LOTR but wouldn't bother watching films that are based on the books or have anything to do with the books. It's not possible for a film to match up to those books.

    But how was the money wasted? Is no-one buying the adspace?

    Youngsters etc. who think J R R Tolkien was some author kinda like a precursor of G R R Martin are simply morons.

    Regarding "Game of Thrones" and the written version "A Song of Ice and Fire", which have been so seminal, I have to admit that my attitude is "F*ck freedom". I'd love to see this illiterature banned. The books are aimed at those with a reading age of 11, meaning children plus adults who are literally retarded. (You can check this by applying the SMOG readability test.) I'd love to see retrospective legislation and the makers and distributors jailed for life without parole, with all their profits seized. I know a young person with mental health difficulties that reading these books caused to deteriorate drastically, snowballing to cause consequences that are far too horrible to describe here. This wasn't the only cause, but one is reminded of the saying "Kill one person and they call you a murderer; kill 10000 and they call you a conqueror." Writing stab stab stab rape rape rape stuff and feeding it to a single youngster would get a parent into deep trouble with social services - and rightly so. Feeding it to millions wins a team of people cultural accolades. There has to be some social responsibility somewhere along the line.

    Libertarians can call me a Stalinist or a Nazi or whatever. Some literature should be banned by the state - sorry.
    Which state might that be? Would it be Russia, perchance?
    The desire to ban ideas you don't like is fairly core to every intellectually weak belief system. Whether it's Putinists, Islamists, Bolsheviks or National Socialists, they all know their ideology can't actually withstand criticism so other ideas have to be forbidden so theirs can maintain hegemony. People with good ideas are much happier to have them debated, because they know their ideas will come out on top.
    I think it's more that they *fear* that their belief system cannot withstand criticism.

    Then, of course, they hire people to post nonsense to internet forums. For no entirely obvious reason.
    What is interesting is how much they stand out on British internet forums. British people have a certain disposition, whether conservative or socialist, that is very difficult to mimic. Someone coming along and launching a mini-screed on how works of literature should be banned just stands out as so clearly foreign.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,687
    WillG said:

    rcs1000 said:

    WillG said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    House of the Dragon is a bit shit

    Zero interest in watching it, after Game of Thrones completely trashed their brand with the final series.

    The upcoming show that interests me the most is The Peripheral, based on William Gibson's 2014 book of the same name. Released later this month on Amazon Prime. Gibson's work has always translated terribly to the screen in the past, but this looks interesting.

    Without spoilers - AI, near future, semi-apocalypse (known as "the jackpot", where most people just die out due to a combination of famine and war) and a Russian kleptocracy in charge of future London (a bit dated in that respect).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdkRQzcrrc
    It's a mystery tho. The script is so.... dull

    They had essentially infinite amounts of money and surely hired the best screenwriters. Yet the characters are flat and the dialogue is all sub-par cheapo fantasy Dungeons and Dragons wank

    "The realm will not tolerate the end of these shipping lanes, my liege!"

    Everyone knows that Game of Thrones worked because it was funny and outrageous and the dialogue crackled along. This is boring. A bit Woke, I fear

    But it's not just mild Wokeness, the CGI isn't very good. The dragons are unconvincing. Odd
    The infinte amounts of money are probably the cause. The original game of thrones came with far fewer expectations, so probably the creators had a great deal of creative license.

    This sequel, though, will be written by dozens of people, whittled down into bland mediocrity, and given the death-by-a-thousand-notes treatment by studio execs. Too many stakeholders and too much at stake. Leading to utter blandness as every choice becomes a compromise between many differing opinions.

    Great art is created by individuals and auteurs - I imagine Dungeons and Dragons or whatever it is called is designed by committee.
    Yes, you are almost certainly right

    Too many people with too much money invested, all offering an opinion, like a hundred chefs chucking in their own ingredient, you end up with a mush

    It's mush. What a waste of money

    Also quite shit direction and production. Some of the props and scenery are laughably, comically bad, which is near inexplicable
    Definitely agree the dragons are shite.

    There's something strangely detached about the whole thing.

    Yes, it is peculiar. Like watching a movie through a grey gauze. It is inert and dull

    Game of Thrones was regularly confusing, annoying, irritating, outrageous... but never boring. NEVER BORING

    But there are other things: I just saw a prop horse carriage, it looked like something comedically shit from a cheap BBC medieval-scifi drama in the 70s. What is that about? They have endless money



    Although Paddy is brilliant. That might be part of the problem. It's like a serious top drawer RSC actor has wandered onto the set of the twelfth and possibly final series of some middle grade cable TV fantasy show.
    Meh. He does quite well with an awfully inane script

    It honestly feels like someone sabotaged this. It is that bad. Someone tunnelled in and made sure they got a shit Woke script and some eerily terrible SFX and a totally lacklustre plot and.... everything. It's really REALLY dismal

    How much cash did they spunk on this crap? This is the Ukrainian invasion of TV series. A colossal waste
    Only $20m per episode.
    Sweet Jesus Christ. And it's TERRIBLE

    It's a crime
    Nah, try Rings of Power if you want terrible. My wife and I are hate watching it at this point. It's so awful. Terribly written, full of the most idiotic tropes, characters that make absolutely no sense and an overall disregard for the outstanding source material that Tolkien wrote.
    OMG I hoped that was slightly better. I am going to have to abandon this Game of Dragons SHITE

    And Wokeness is *one* of the problems with this series (but far from the only problem). They have cast black actors who are clearly shit, and slow down the action, and are squirmingly not good, and they are there for WOKE REASONS

    Is the Rings of Power the same? Sounds like it is

    So that's about half a billion dollars wasted on terrible Woke TV drama. The West is finished
    I love LOTR but wouldn't bother watching films that are based on the books or have anything to do with the books. It's not possible for a film to match up to those books.

    But how was the money wasted? Is no-one buying the adspace?

    Youngsters etc. who think J R R Tolkien was some author kinda like a precursor of G R R Martin are simply morons.

    Regarding "Game of Thrones" and the written version "A Song of Ice and Fire", which have been so seminal, I have to admit that my attitude is "F*ck freedom". I'd love to see this illiterature banned. The books are aimed at those with a reading age of 11, meaning children plus adults who are literally retarded. (You can check this by applying the SMOG readability test.) I'd love to see retrospective legislation and the makers and distributors jailed for life without parole, with all their profits seized. I know a young person with mental health difficulties that reading these books caused to deteriorate drastically, snowballing to cause consequences that are far too horrible to describe here. This wasn't the only cause, but one is reminded of the saying "Kill one person and they call you a murderer; kill 10000 and they call you a conqueror." Writing stab stab stab rape rape rape stuff and feeding it to a single youngster would get a parent into deep trouble with social services - and rightly so. Feeding it to millions wins a team of people cultural accolades. There has to be some social responsibility somewhere along the line.

    Libertarians can call me a Stalinist or a Nazi or whatever. Some literature should be banned by the state - sorry.
    Which state might that be? Would it be Russia, perchance?
    The desire to ban ideas you don't like is fairly core to every intellectually weak belief system. Whether it's Putinists, Islamists, Bolsheviks or National Socialists, they all know their ideology can't actually withstand criticism so other ideas have to be forbidden so theirs can maintain hegemony. People with good ideas are much happier to have them debated, because they know their ideas will come out on top.
    I think it's more that they *fear* that their belief system cannot withstand criticism.

    Then, of course, they hire people to post nonsense to internet forums. For no entirely obvious reason.
    What is interesting is how much they stand out on British internet forums. British people have a certain disposition, whether conservative or socialist, that is very difficult to mimic. Someone coming along and launching a mini-screed on how works of literature should be banned just stands out as so clearly foreign.
    What I find funniest is that we ban one, and twenty minutes later another appears.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,855

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    House of the Dragon is a bit shit

    Zero interest in watching it, after Game of Thrones completely trashed their brand with the final series.

    The upcoming show that interests me the most is The Peripheral, based on William Gibson's 2014 book of the same name. Released later this month on Amazon Prime. Gibson's work has always translated terribly to the screen in the past, but this looks interesting.

    Without spoilers - AI, near future, semi-apocalypse (known as "the jackpot", where most people just die out due to a combination of famine and war) and a Russian kleptocracy in charge of future London (a bit dated in that respect).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdkRQzcrrc
    It's a mystery tho. The script is so.... dull

    They had essentially infinite amounts of money and surely hired the best screenwriters. Yet the characters are flat and the dialogue is all sub-par cheapo fantasy Dungeons and Dragons wank

    "The realm will not tolerate the end of these shipping lanes, my liege!"

    Everyone knows that Game of Thrones worked because it was funny and outrageous and the dialogue crackled along. This is boring. A bit Woke, I fear

    But it's not just mild Wokeness, the CGI isn't very good. The dragons are unconvincing. Odd
    The infinte amounts of money are probably the cause. The original game of thrones came with far fewer expectations, so probably the creators had a great deal of creative license.

    This sequel, though, will be written by dozens of people, whittled down into bland mediocrity, and given the death-by-a-thousand-notes treatment by studio execs. Too many stakeholders and too much at stake. Leading to utter blandness as every choice becomes a compromise between many differing opinions.

    Great art is created by individuals and auteurs - I imagine Dungeons and Dragons or whatever it is called is designed by committee.
    Yes, you are almost certainly right

    Too many people with too much money invested, all offering an opinion, like a hundred chefs chucking in their own ingredient, you end up with a mush

    It's mush. What a waste of money

    Also quite shit direction and production. Some of the props and scenery are laughably, comically bad, which is near inexplicable
    Definitely agree the dragons are shite.

    There's something strangely detached about the whole thing.

    Yes, it is peculiar. Like watching a movie through a grey gauze. It is inert and dull

    Game of Thrones was regularly confusing, annoying, irritating, outrageous... but never boring. NEVER BORING

    But there are other things: I just saw a prop horse carriage, it looked like something comedically shit from a cheap BBC medieval-scifi drama in the 70s. What is that about? They have endless money



    Although Paddy is brilliant. That might be part of the problem. It's like a serious top drawer RSC actor has wandered onto the set of the twelfth and possibly final series of some middle grade cable TV fantasy show.
    Meh. He does quite well with an awfully inane script

    It honestly feels like someone sabotaged this. It is that bad. Someone tunnelled in and made sure they got a shit Woke script and some eerily terrible SFX and a totally lacklustre plot and.... everything. It's really REALLY dismal

    How much cash did they spunk on this crap? This is the Ukrainian invasion of TV series. A colossal waste
    Only $20m per episode.
    Sweet Jesus Christ. And it's TERRIBLE

    It's a crime
    Nah, try Rings of Power if you want terrible. My wife and I are hate watching it at this point. It's so awful. Terribly written, full of the most idiotic tropes, characters that make absolutely no sense and an overall disregard for the outstanding source material that Tolkien wrote.
    OMG I hoped that was slightly better. I am going to have to abandon this Game of Dragons SHITE

    And Wokeness is *one* of the problems with this series (but far from the only problem). They have cast black actors who are clearly shit, and slow down the action, and are squirmingly not good, and they are there for WOKE REASONS

    Is the Rings of Power the same? Sounds like it is

    So that's about half a billion dollars wasted on terrible Woke TV drama. The West is finished
    I love LOTR but wouldn't bother watching films that are based on the books or have anything to do with the books. It's not possible for a film to match up to those books.

    But how was the money wasted? Is no-one buying the adspace?

    Youngsters etc. who think J R R Tolkien was some author kinda like a precursor of G R R Martin are simply morons.

    Regarding "Game of Thrones" and the written version "A Song of Ice and Fire", which have been so seminal, I have to admit that my attitude is "F*ck freedom". I'd love to see this illiterature banned. The books are aimed at those with a reading age of 11, meaning children plus adults who are literally retarded. (You can check this by applying the SMOG readability test.) I'd love to see retrospective legislation and the makers and distributors jailed for life without parole, with all their profits seized. I know a young person with mental health difficulties that reading these books caused to deteriorate drastically, snowballing to cause consequences that are far too horrible to describe here. This wasn't the only cause, but one is reminded of the saying "Kill one person and they call you a murderer; kill 10000 and they call you a conqueror." Writing stab stab stab rape rape rape stuff and feeding it to a single youngster would get a parent into deep trouble with social services - and rightly so. Feeding it to millions wins a team of people cultural accolades. There has to be some social responsibility somewhere along the line.

    Libertarians can call me a Stalinist or a Nazi or whatever.
    People don't have to be libertarian to call you that, and it's got nothing to do with your views on literature.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,855
    rcs1000 said:

    WillG said:

    rcs1000 said:

    WillG said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    House of the Dragon is a bit shit

    Zero interest in watching it, after Game of Thrones completely trashed their brand with the final series.

    The upcoming show that interests me the most is The Peripheral, based on William Gibson's 2014 book of the same name. Released later this month on Amazon Prime. Gibson's work has always translated terribly to the screen in the past, but this looks interesting.

    Without spoilers - AI, near future, semi-apocalypse (known as "the jackpot", where most people just die out due to a combination of famine and war) and a Russian kleptocracy in charge of future London (a bit dated in that respect).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdkRQzcrrc
    It's a mystery tho. The script is so.... dull

    They had essentially infinite amounts of money and surely hired the best screenwriters. Yet the characters are flat and the dialogue is all sub-par cheapo fantasy Dungeons and Dragons wank

    "The realm will not tolerate the end of these shipping lanes, my liege!"

    Everyone knows that Game of Thrones worked because it was funny and outrageous and the dialogue crackled along. This is boring. A bit Woke, I fear

    But it's not just mild Wokeness, the CGI isn't very good. The dragons are unconvincing. Odd
    The infinte amounts of money are probably the cause. The original game of thrones came with far fewer expectations, so probably the creators had a great deal of creative license.

    This sequel, though, will be written by dozens of people, whittled down into bland mediocrity, and given the death-by-a-thousand-notes treatment by studio execs. Too many stakeholders and too much at stake. Leading to utter blandness as every choice becomes a compromise between many differing opinions.

    Great art is created by individuals and auteurs - I imagine Dungeons and Dragons or whatever it is called is designed by committee.
    Yes, you are almost certainly right

    Too many people with too much money invested, all offering an opinion, like a hundred chefs chucking in their own ingredient, you end up with a mush

    It's mush. What a waste of money

    Also quite shit direction and production. Some of the props and scenery are laughably, comically bad, which is near inexplicable
    Definitely agree the dragons are shite.

    There's something strangely detached about the whole thing.

    Yes, it is peculiar. Like watching a movie through a grey gauze. It is inert and dull

    Game of Thrones was regularly confusing, annoying, irritating, outrageous... but never boring. NEVER BORING

    But there are other things: I just saw a prop horse carriage, it looked like something comedically shit from a cheap BBC medieval-scifi drama in the 70s. What is that about? They have endless money



    Although Paddy is brilliant. That might be part of the problem. It's like a serious top drawer RSC actor has wandered onto the set of the twelfth and possibly final series of some middle grade cable TV fantasy show.
    Meh. He does quite well with an awfully inane script

    It honestly feels like someone sabotaged this. It is that bad. Someone tunnelled in and made sure they got a shit Woke script and some eerily terrible SFX and a totally lacklustre plot and.... everything. It's really REALLY dismal

    How much cash did they spunk on this crap? This is the Ukrainian invasion of TV series. A colossal waste
    Only $20m per episode.
    Sweet Jesus Christ. And it's TERRIBLE

    It's a crime
    Nah, try Rings of Power if you want terrible. My wife and I are hate watching it at this point. It's so awful. Terribly written, full of the most idiotic tropes, characters that make absolutely no sense and an overall disregard for the outstanding source material that Tolkien wrote.
    OMG I hoped that was slightly better. I am going to have to abandon this Game of Dragons SHITE

    And Wokeness is *one* of the problems with this series (but far from the only problem). They have cast black actors who are clearly shit, and slow down the action, and are squirmingly not good, and they are there for WOKE REASONS

    Is the Rings of Power the same? Sounds like it is

    So that's about half a billion dollars wasted on terrible Woke TV drama. The West is finished
    I love LOTR but wouldn't bother watching films that are based on the books or have anything to do with the books. It's not possible for a film to match up to those books.

    But how was the money wasted? Is no-one buying the adspace?

    Youngsters etc. who think J R R Tolkien was some author kinda like a precursor of G R R Martin are simply morons.

    Regarding "Game of Thrones" and the written version "A Song of Ice and Fire", which have been so seminal, I have to admit that my attitude is "F*ck freedom". I'd love to see this illiterature banned. The books are aimed at those with a reading age of 11, meaning children plus adults who are literally retarded. (You can check this by applying the SMOG readability test.) I'd love to see retrospective legislation and the makers and distributors jailed for life without parole, with all their profits seized. I know a young person with mental health difficulties that reading these books caused to deteriorate drastically, snowballing to cause consequences that are far too horrible to describe here. This wasn't the only cause, but one is reminded of the saying "Kill one person and they call you a murderer; kill 10000 and they call you a conqueror." Writing stab stab stab rape rape rape stuff and feeding it to a single youngster would get a parent into deep trouble with social services - and rightly so. Feeding it to millions wins a team of people cultural accolades. There has to be some social responsibility somewhere along the line.

    Libertarians can call me a Stalinist or a Nazi or whatever. Some literature should be banned by the state - sorry.
    Which state might that be? Would it be Russia, perchance?
    The desire to ban ideas you don't like is fairly core to every intellectually weak belief system. Whether it's Putinists, Islamists, Bolsheviks or National Socialists, they all know their ideology can't actually withstand criticism so other ideas have to be forbidden so theirs can maintain hegemony. People with good ideas are much happier to have them debated, because they know their ideas will come out on top.
    I think it's more that they *fear* that their belief system cannot withstand criticism.

    Then, of course, they hire people to post nonsense to internet forums. For no entirely obvious reason.
    What is interesting is how much they stand out on British internet forums. British people have a certain disposition, whether conservative or socialist, that is very difficult to mimic. Someone coming along and launching a mini-screed on how works of literature should be banned just stands out as so clearly foreign.
    What I find funniest is that we ban one, and twenty minutes later another appears.
    If you check this one's profile, it was registered at the same time as a *second* profile which has been dormant ever since.

    So they're already ready for the ban hammer.
This discussion has been closed.