Has anyone else noticed that Leon is an anagram of Elon. I first realised this when mentally remarking on the Ukraine situation using the phrase "pound shop" as an adjective.
It’s also an anagram of Noel, as in daytime TV great Edmonds.
Can the police and television cameras be in three places at once? Surely the Derby and FA Cup Final will need to be moved unless the King wants a slimmed-down coronation with no guests and only on the wireless. Hmm. Nothing on the BBC's news page about the coronation so let's not panic just yet.
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
I got sucked in to watching "The Man Who Saved The World" the other day.
It is a very odd film given that the protagonist essentially plays himself, but it is an interesting tale - albeit quite well known now. Nobody had a clue at the time, of course.
I think it does show that even under extreme pressure it is likely that somebody in the chain will be keen to avoid WW3.
Trans Activists on Twitter. As far as I can see, this stuff is normal tactics in some circles.
Thread from 'gender critical' activist Caroline Farrow about the police turning up at her door at teatime to arrest her for alleged 'malicious online communication'. In front of her children. https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1577092705154666496
And another perhaps more PB one from her barrister about harassment he has been subjected to since he has been representing her, including multiple complaints to legal authorities and several to police. Consider further legal measures to stem the tide. Also introduced me to the world of unregistered barristers - which sounds like a parallel to unregistered architects. https://twitter.com/AdrianYalland/status/1577441968497561606
He just received enough compensation from the Met to build a swimming pool.
One of the Farrow coppers remarked that she had been arrrested for 'writing insulting things on the internet. Which is not an offence (if I understand my case law correctly.)
There's an Augean stables to be cleared out somewhere. Where's Heracles?
The Police seem to be acting as enablers to someone who simply has a grudge against farrow and the whole arrest and seizure of her IT seems to be to enable them to search for proof of the accusation, as they don’t have any just the original complaint. The complaint being she posted some stuff on something called Kiwifarms which she has denied.
Has anyone else noticed that Leon is an anagram of Elon. I first realised this when mentally remarking on the Ukraine situation using the phrase "pound shop" as an adjective.
It’s also an anagram of Noel, as in daytime TV great Edmonds.
It’s also an anagram of Lone, which seems more appropriate.
Was busy earlier when Truss' speech was on. A few good bits on her background catching up on iplayer but my goodness the delivery is awful and wooden.
It makes even IDS or May speeches seem like passionate oratory by comparison
Interesting how Liz Truss is the second female PM in a row to face the same types of criticisms.
What, it is impossible to say that two female PMs separated by a contemptibly useless male PM are also useless? I do love this very distinctive PB gammon dressed as wokery. No bad mouthing the laydeez in the mess, what?
That's quite funny. I bristle slightly at the North of England being in the 'post-industrial depression' category - most of it is at least 'both of the above'. Also a pedant notes West Cumberland is also rugby league. Though the rugby league band in Lancashire and Yorkshire is too wide - doesn't extend that far north. (ISTR that this only applies to watching rugby - even in the rugby league heartlands I think at least as many people play rugby union than play rugby league. @dixiedean may have a viewon this!)
Indeed. You are probably correct. RU has always had the social side. Most amateur RL is like soccer. Turn up train or play. Go home. There isn't the lengthy session in a decent clubhouse afterwards. There never was a great distinction, or enmity even in the bad old days, though. If they'd followed Twickenham and banned everyone who'd ever played league, there wouldn't have been an RU XV to raise in Wigan or St. Helens or Wakefield. A great many still play both. Especially now league is summer. I think it makes you better at both.
My Union coach, from S Yorks, said it was common for him and his mates to play the odd game of League under assumed names. Everyone knew it happened.
Bill Beaumont was a frequent attender to watch Wigan at Central Park. At a time when merely watching a game of League was supposed to be a banning offence. My Dad had his lifetime ban from Twickenham framed. It never stopped him playing Union. Indeed he ended up Honorary Life President of his local RU club
Has anyone else noticed that Leon is an anagram of Elon. I first realised this when mentally remarking on the Ukraine situation using the phrase "pound shop" as an adjective.
It’s also an anagram of Noel, as in daytime TV great Edmonds.
It’s also an anagram of Lone, which seems more appropriate.
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Incredibly, you can get 8.6 that Truss will be gone by end of year.
Value bet de jour.
Is it though? There is not much of this year left and if LizT hangs around while a successor is chosen that narrows the window further. I think I'd want to see a few post-speech polls to see if today's speech has pulled it out of the fire.
I got sucked in to watching "The Man Who Saved The World" the other day.
It is a very odd film given that the protagonist essentially plays himself, but it is an interesting tale - albeit quite well known now. Nobody had a clue at the time, of course.
I think it does show that even under extreme pressure it is likely that somebody in the chain will be keen to avoid WW3.
We can but hope. Max Hastings was on the radio plugging his book abiut the Cuban Missile crisis. It is clear those in the chain in the US wanted war and JFK was the calm head prevailing.
There does seem to be a general lack of astuteness and political nous exhibited by allies of Truss. A bit like they expected it would all be so easy and they could enjoy being the new kids on the block. Demonstrates a lack of seriousness and a complacency (particularly given the current economics) which I think has helped lead to this situation.
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
Quite, as there seem likely to be energy shortages anyway even if the market forces reduce consumption somewhat.
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
It does seem a bit bonkers given that with the energy cap it is future taxpayers that are taking the risk here and not the utilities.
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly available information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Well I think we know what his Mum would have wanted.
Well, she was crowned on the 2nd June, so that's presumably why that date's been picked. But the previous week which is already a Bank Holiday weekend would be from all points of view more logical.
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
Maybe they think that given the general viewpoint of population on the current government that it'd be counterproductive... "Those bleep bleep politicians telling me to reduce my thermostat - I'll show them. (Turns it up 2 degrees)"
There does seem to be a general lack of astuteness and political nous exhibited by allies of Truss. A bit like they expected it would all be so easy and they could enjoy being the new kids on the block. Demonstrates a lack of seriousness and a complacency (particularly given the current economics) which I think has helped lead to this situation.
They thought they were the smartest kids in the room. They forgot the room contained Nads, Francois, Bone and Jenkyns...
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
It does seem a bit bonkers given that with the energy cap it is future taxpayers that are taking the risk here and not the utilities.
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly availably information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
Maybe TravellingTabby could get upgraded from MBE to KBE?
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
It does seem a bit bonkers given that with the energy cap it is future taxpayers that are taking the risk here and not the utilities.
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly available information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
Liz Truss doesn't care about future generations. She just wants to ensure old c**** feel as though they can do what they want at any time and not feel the consequences of policies that have stripped the nation of its wealth to feed their pensions and healthcare.
We should have let COVID run it's course properly. It was nature's way of clearing out the old and fat and we spent hundreds of billions to save these ungrateful fucks.
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Incredible. What are they thinking?
They were - according to the article and amongst other things including politics - also debating whether the message should come from the Government, the Energy Companies or the regulator OFGEM.
A UK industry source said: “There is still a debate over who is best to offer guidance to households – government, suppliers or network operators.”
I'd say a public information campaign from OFGEM.
The G seems to think that there is a contradiction between offering advice and 'the Govt's libertarian principles', which I don't understand.
For this usual Tory voter in General Elections, I have not had a Tory voting thought since Patersongate and everything about LT makes it worse.
Hunt and Hat would have made me have a careful look, as would, more doubtfully, Kemi, who has certainly got something of quality.
LT is not even minor ministerial quality. She is as voter worthy as Corbyn, and less intellectually thought out. As she puts it so well: She. Is. A. Disgrace.
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Well I think we know what his Mum would have wanted.
Well, she was crowned on the 2nd June, so that's presumably why that date's been picked. But the previous week which is already a Bank Holiday weekend would be from all points of view more logical.
3 June is at the end of Whit half term so lots of people will be travelling home from a week away. Seems an odd choice.
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
It does seem a bit bonkers given that with the energy cap it is future taxpayers that are taking the risk here and not the utilities.
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly available information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
Liz Truss doesn't care about future generations. She just wants to ensure old c**** feel as though they can do what they want at any time and not feel the consequences of policies that have stripped the nation of its wealth to feed their pensions and healthcare.
We should have let COVID run it's course properly. It was nature's way of clearing out the old and fat and we spent hundreds of billions to save these ungrateful fucks.
Brutal ! I just have the urge to slap old people who look like Tory voters . The pandering to pensioners is vomit inducing as younger people are fxcked .
For this usual Tory voter in General Elections, I have not had a Tory voting thought since Patersongate and everything about LT makes it worse.
Hunt and Hat would have made me have a careful look, as would, more doubtfully, Kemi, who has certainly got something of quality.
LT is not even minor ministerial quality. She is as voter worthy as Corbyn, and less intellectually thought out. As she puts it so well: She. Is. A. Disgrace.
And I voted Tory in 1997,2001 and 2005.
Someone who voted Tory in 97 who will switch to Lab in 24... If you are in any way typical, well...
Rather like "The Enemy Within" it'll have its backers. I'm sure Reeves, Starmer, Davey, Sturgeon et al will come out swinging - I'm more reminded of that epic quote from Rik Mayall:
"The Prime Minister with no brain returns once more to frolic on insanity beach".
As an aside, Truss is certainly not stupid by any measurement - she is desperately trying to do another re-invention of the Conservative Party and Government - apparently Cameron, May and Johnson - indeed, the last 12 years - were managed decline.
The problem was she was a big part of the management of that decline - if she had walked out claiming the economic policy was wrong and advocated the current nonsense from the sidelines for the last few years, she'd have a soupcon of credibility but it's almost as though she only discovered supply-side economics after meeting with Kwasi Kwarteng who I increasingly think is the real power in Government.
For this usual Tory voter in General Elections, I have not had a Tory voting thought since Patersongate and everything about LT makes it worse.
Hunt and Hat would have made me have a careful look, as would, more doubtfully, Kemi, who has certainly got something of quality.
LT is not even minor ministerial quality. She is as voter worthy as Corbyn, and less intellectually thought out. As she puts it so well: She. Is. A. Disgrace.
And I voted Tory in 1997,2001 and 2005.
Someone who voted Tory in 97 who will switch to Lab in 24... If you are in any way typical, well...
I voted Tory in 1997 and I’m planning on voting Labour in 2024.
Heck I may even campaign for them if Liz Truss gets any shitter.
For this usual Tory voter in General Elections, I have not had a Tory voting thought since Patersongate and everything about LT makes it worse.
Hunt and Hat would have made me have a careful look, as would, more doubtfully, Kemi, who has certainly got something of quality.
LT is not even minor ministerial quality. She is as voter worthy as Corbyn, and less intellectually thought out. As she puts it so well: She. Is. A. Disgrace.
And I voted Tory in 1997,2001 and 2005.
Someone who voted Tory in 97 who will switch to Lab in 24... If you are in any way typical, well...
I voted Tory in 1997 and I’m planning on voting Labour in 2024.
Heck I may even campaign for them if Liz Truss gets any shitter.
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
Maybe they think that given the general viewpoint of population on the current government that it'd be counterproductive... "Those bleep bleep politicians telling me to reduce my thermostat - I'll show them. (Turns it up 2 degrees)"
They probably think turning down the thermostat is anti growth, or woke (or both). There’s a strain in libertarian right thinking that objects to energy efficiency as being defeatist and wet.
A well directed public information film would work well I think, as did government messaging during Covid. Even during the Cummings stuff people followed the guidance closely.
A menacing soundtrack. In the background the sounds of electric shocks and a torture chamber. A grinning Vlad Putin with gloved hands on a dial. Cut to film of a British family. Someone’s feeling a bit chilly despite only wearing a T shirt. Cranks up the thermostat to 19C. Cut to Vlad turning up the dial. “No, no! Aaaargh! Buzz buzz”. Then a chilling silence.
Text appears on screen. “Conserve energy. Turn down the dial on Putin’s power”.
I played through that game and the only moderately suspicious element was that Niemann handled the opening very well which made you wonder whether someone in Carlsen's team had leaked the champion's preparation to Niemann. Even so the advantage Niemann got out of the opening was small and you would have expected Carlsen to turn it round which he kind of did. He lost in the end by pressing too hard for the win (we all do it...sigh) instead of acepting a hard-fought draw.
Can the police and television cameras be in three places at once? Surely the Derby and FA Cup Final will need to be moved unless the King wants a slimmed-down coronation with no guests and only on the wireless. Hmm. Nothing on the BBC's news page about the coronation so let's not panic just yet.
Why not have the Derby and Cup Final on the Sunday, for the hungover Royalists to watch?
Russia’s latest rhetoric around Nordstream 2 yet more evidence that they are responsible.
Is it not Nordstream 1 that they blew up? I don't think Nordstream 2 has ever been operational.
They blew up both: two cuts to NS1, one to NS2.
Do they still get paid for the gas lost from the pipeline? Is blowing the pipeline up not a poor medium term business decision?
No.
But: if the pipeline existed, and Gazprom was not delivering, then it would be on the hook for the costs that Germany (and others incurred) in finding alternative gas supplies.
Because the pipeline no longer exists, Gazprom can declare Force Majeure: well, we would have shipped the gas to you but sadly someone blew up the pipeline so we're off the hook.
Can the police and television cameras be in three places at once? Surely the Derby and FA Cup Final will need to be moved unless the King wants a slimmed-down coronation with no guests and only on the wireless. Hmm. Nothing on the BBC's news page about the coronation so let's not panic just yet.
Why not have the Derby and Cup Final on the Sunday, for the hungover Royalists to watch?
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
Support for independence has increased by five points to 43 per cent, while backing for the Union dropped by one point to 45 per cent, with 7 per cent undecided.
With “don’t knows” removed, this means the constitutional question remains on a knife-edge: 49 per cent favour independence for Scotland and 51 per cent favour remaining part of the UK.
Shockingly remiss of you not to add the DKs to the No leger.
Indeed, including DKs Yes still 2% less than it got in 2014
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
It does seem a bit bonkers given that with the energy cap it is future taxpayers that are taking the risk here and not the utilities.
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly available information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
Something like, "don't turn the washing machine on if we're using more than two-thirds of our gas power capacity", and "do everything you've been delaying if we're using less than one-third of our gas power capacity".
Pretty sure you can get the wind energy forecast for the grid too, so you could even tell people when there was next likely to be enough wind power that they could do the laundry.
Can the police and television cameras be in three places at once? Surely the Derby and FA Cup Final will need to be moved unless the King wants a slimmed-down coronation with no guests and only on the wireless. Hmm. Nothing on the BBC's news page about the coronation so let's not panic just yet.
Why not have the Derby and Cup Final on the Sunday, for the hungover Royalists to watch?
And the hungover royals (well, Wales) to hand the winners the cup?
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
Support for independence has increased by five points to 43 per cent, while backing for the Union dropped by one point to 45 per cent, with 7 per cent undecided.
With “don’t knows” removed, this means the constitutional question remains on a knife-edge: 49 per cent favour independence for Scotland and 51 per cent favour remaining part of the UK.
Shockingly remiss of you not to add the DKs to the No leger.
Indeed, including DKs Yes still 2% less than it got in 2014
You still equating self-selected skippers of a few larsger Scottish fishing boats with the entire Scottish fishing industry, afloat and ashore?
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
It does seem a bit bonkers given that with the energy cap it is future taxpayers that are taking the risk here and not the utilities.
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly available information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
Something like, "don't turn the washing machine on if we're using more than two-thirds of our gas power capacity", and "do everything you've been delaying if we're using less than one-third of our gas power capacity".
Pretty sure you can get the wind energy forecast for the grid too, so you could even tell people when there was next likely to be enough wind power that they could do the laundry.
What's so absurd is that a fair number of people could at least be expected to understand the issue.
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
It does seem a bit bonkers given that with the energy cap it is future taxpayers that are taking the risk here and not the utilities.
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly available information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
Something like, "don't turn the washing machine on if we're using more than two-thirds of our gas power capacity", and "do everything you've been delaying if we're using less than one-third of our gas power capacity".
Pretty sure you can get the wind energy forecast for the grid too, so you could even tell people when there was next likely to be enough wind power that they could do the laundry.
Yes, exactly. The power companies already do the forecasting - just need make them public with a bit of advice stuck on. You could even write (Matt Hancock voice) an app.
Maybe OFGEM will do something, but if they do, I'd bet their attempt will be rubbish.
Well - I know quite a few who would be upset. That's the nature of the town. However, its membership trends extremely old (like much of the town and indeed most of the Cons)
Con clubs are baffling beasts. It's astonishing that they're still going frankly. They are, at bottom, social clubs, and the political affiliation is almost incidental. My parents used to drink in one back in the 80s when pubs in the suburbs which exceeded the bog standard were rare beasts indeed. (I have been in the odd Con club as an adult and they are exactly the same, down to tye smell - albeit less smokey nowadays.) But the night out they offer - an evening watching a selection of adequate singers singing some lowest common denominator pop songs - how is there still a market for this? If I want mass market entertainment I have a telly and an internet at home. If I want conversation and conviviality I go somewhere without someone singing needlessly loudly at me. Who wants this? Clearly not nobody. But the market for it is surely receding. Con clubs do tend to continue to offer an oppprtunity for snooker, which was what initially took my Dad to our local Con club when I was small.
Recently went back to one of the Con Clubs in Gosport for the first time in, ooh, thirty years? Much the same crowd as before, just much older.
I suspect it's part of a wider trend- all those neighborhood affiliations are growing old and few are refreshing. Churches, community associations... They're all struggling and probably dying.
Some of that is us finding our society elsewhere (like here), some of it is work and commuting taking up so much time. But ultimately, younger generations don't feel the somewhereness of their elders. And whilst that's probably a gain overall, we also lose something.
Not all, some youth clubs are still popular and evangelical Pentecostal churches and mega churches are growing in attendance and cathedrals still generally get healthy congregations.
However joining most clubs, from golf clubs to Conservative clubs to bridge and bowls clubs to the horticultural society, to becoming a church warden or a local councillor is something people do most often when they are retired. When they no longer have to go to full time work and their children have left home and they have plenty of time on their hands.
Off topic, but cheering: "Combined with weapons taken during Russia’s retreat from Kyiv and other parts of northern Ukraine in April, these recent gains have turned Moscow into by far the largest supplier of heavy weapons for Ukraine, well ahead of the U.S. or other allies in sheer numbers, according to open-source intelligence analysts. Western-provided weapons, though, are usually more advanced and precise.
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
It does seem a bit bonkers given that with the energy cap it is future taxpayers that are taking the risk here and not the utilities.
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly available information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
Something like, "don't turn the washing machine on if we're using more than two-thirds of our gas power capacity", and "do everything you've been delaying if we're using less than one-third of our gas power capacity".
Pretty sure you can get the wind energy forecast for the grid too, so you could even tell people when there was next likely to be enough wind power that they could do the laundry.
What's so absurd is that a fair number of people could at least be expected to understand the issue.
There's also good psychology that shows people feel better about a difficult situation if they are given some measure of control over it, so creating a sense of collective endeavour, that we can all do our bit to help get through a tricky winter, would make people feel less despondent.
The media really went for a couple of energy companies who tried to do something like this on their own, sending people warm socks in the post, and advice about star jumps to keep themselves warm - but in the absence of being able to magic up the missing natural gas, what else is there to be done (in the short term)? I'd guess that's what the government want to avoid.
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
It does seem a bit bonkers given that with the energy cap it is future taxpayers that are taking the risk here and not the utilities.
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly available information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
Something like, "don't turn the washing machine on if we're using more than two-thirds of our gas power capacity", and "do everything you've been delaying if we're using less than one-third of our gas power capacity".
Pretty sure you can get the wind energy forecast for the grid too, so you could even tell people when there was next likely to be enough wind power that they could do the laundry.
What's so absurd is that a fair number of people could at least be expected to understand the issue.
There's also good psychology that shows people feel better about a difficult situation if they are given some measure of control over it, so creating a sense of collective endeavour, that we can all do our bit to help get through a tricky winter, would make people feel less despondent.
The media really went for a couple of energy companies who tried to do something like this on their own, sending people warm socks in the post, and advice about star jumps to keep themselves warm - but in the absence of being able to magic up the missing natural gas, what else is there to be done (in the short term)? I'd guess that's what the government want to avoid.
It's odd cos people of my age -55 and above - remember the power strikes of the early 1970s - and water shortages. Government information campaigns. Share a bath and so on. And more recently the HIV/AIDS campaigns.
Maybe the newspapers are hostile cos they don't get the advertising money these days?
Can the police and television cameras be in three places at once? Surely the Derby and FA Cup Final will need to be moved unless the King wants a slimmed-down coronation with no guests and only on the wireless. Hmm. Nothing on the BBC's news page about the coronation so let's not panic just yet.
Why not have the Derby and Cup Final on the Sunday, for the hungover Royalists to watch?
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If they aren't in Westminster for it they should be watching the anointing of their new sovereign on television
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
Both Epsom Downs station and Tattenham Corner station are in London Travelcard Zone 6.
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If you think that the God bit is so important - then I can't help remembering what happened when Charles I, II and III(A) pushed that line of argument about divine right.
Seriously, it's a crass time in terms of established holidays. And we shouldn't be giging any mor ebank holidays. The country has to earn its living ((c) Cosnervative Party).
I read the report yesterday: it seems pretty clear he was cheating on-line, but the evidence is more mixed for the IRL games.
Plot for yet another "Mission Impossible" sequel?
"Jim, your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to obtain special 'access' to a leading international Grand Master suspected of cheating in a very 'fundamental' way . . ."
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
It does seem a bit bonkers given that with the energy cap it is future taxpayers that are taking the risk here and not the utilities.
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly available information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
Something like, "don't turn the washing machine on if we're using more than two-thirds of our gas power capacity", and "do everything you've been delaying if we're using less than one-third of our gas power capacity".
Pretty sure you can get the wind energy forecast for the grid too, so you could even tell people when there was next likely to be enough wind power that they could do the laundry.
What's so absurd is that a fair number of people could at least be expected to understand the issue.
There's also good psychology that shows people feel better about a difficult situation if they are given some measure of control over it, so creating a sense of collective endeavour, that we can all do our bit to help get through a tricky winter, would make people feel less despondent.
The media really went for a couple of energy companies who tried to do something like this on their own, sending people warm socks in the post, and advice about star jumps to keep themselves warm - but in the absence of being able to magic up the missing natural gas, what else is there to be done (in the short term)? I'd guess that's what the government want to avoid.
Even if only a quarter of the population bothered, it would still make a difference.
Just a traffic light system would do. A timeline marked in Green, Amber and Red.
I would guess the government don't want to admit that their 'price freeze' hasn't actually solved the problem.
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
Both Epsom Downs station and Tattenham Corner station are in London Travelcard Zone 6.
Quite. Think what the London termini will be like. They didn't try to combine the funeral with the Boat Race.
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If they aren't in Westminster for it they should be watching the anointing of their new sovereign on television
Was busy earlier when Truss' speech was on. A few good bits on her background catching up on iplayer but my goodness the delivery is awful and wooden.
It makes even IDS or May speeches seem like passionate oratory by comparison
Interesting how Liz Truss is the second female PM in a row to face the same types of criticisms.
What, it is impossible to say that two female PMs separated by a contemptibly useless male PM are also useless? I do love this very distinctive PB gammon dressed as wokery. No bad mouthing the laydeez in the mess, what?
That would be a good point, were not Boris convincingly the most talented, intelligent, charismatic and election-winning of the three - May, Boris, Truss
Awkwardly, the shag-happy Etonian bombast-o-matic Boris is the best for quite a while, indeed I'd say the best Tory PM since Thatcher, and the best PM since Thatcher with the exception of Blair. Damn shame he couldn't get a grip on things
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If they aren't in Westminster for it they should be watching the anointing of their new sovereign on television
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If you think that the God bit is so important - then I can't help remembering what happened when Charles I, II and III(A) pushed that line of argument about divine right.
Seriously, it's a crass time in terms of established holidays. And we shouldn't be giging any mor ebank holidays. The country has to earn its living ((c) Cosnervative Party).
Well it led in Charles 1st case to the English civil war where you Scots ultimately ended up allied with him and were crushed by Cromwell and his new model army.
We then had the restoration of Charles II who was a popular monarch and ruled until his dying day. However Charles III, II and I were all anointed by God as the coronation will still make clear even if he is now a constitutional monarch.
Saturday for coronation day means it is not a bank holiday day either is it
'Ministers have stepped back from mooted plans to launch a public information campaign to encourage households to reduce their energy use this winter.
A campaign asking households to turn their thermostats down and use their dishwashers and washing machines at times when energy demand is lower have been discussed between the business department, energy companies and the network operator National Grid.
However, business department on Wednesday said there are now “no plans for the government to tell the public to reduce usage for the sake of our energy supplies”.'
Seems bonkers. An easy win for little cost.
It does seem a bit bonkers given that with the energy cap it is future taxpayers that are taking the risk here and not the utilities.
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly available information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
Something like, "don't turn the washing machine on if we're using more than two-thirds of our gas power capacity", and "do everything you've been delaying if we're using less than one-third of our gas power capacity".
Pretty sure you can get the wind energy forecast for the grid too, so you could even tell people when there was next likely to be enough wind power that they could do the laundry.
What's so absurd is that a fair number of people could at least be expected to understand the issue.
There's also good psychology that shows people feel better about a difficult situation if they are given some measure of control over it, so creating a sense of collective endeavour, that we can all do our bit to help get through a tricky winter, would make people feel less despondent.
The media really went for a couple of energy companies who tried to do something like this on their own, sending people warm socks in the post, and advice about star jumps to keep themselves warm - but in the absence of being able to magic up the missing natural gas, what else is there to be done (in the short term)? I'd guess that's what the government want to avoid.
Even if only a quarter of the population bothered, it would still make a difference.
Just a traffic light system would do. A timeline marked in Green, Amber and Red.
I would guess the government don't want to admit that their 'price freeze' hasn't actually solved the problem.
Perhaps terrified of news companies leering at MP's bathrooms ventilation outlets and timing the minutes of steam coming out, and so on. Like with covid lockdowns.
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If they aren't in Westminster for it they should be watching the anointing of their new sovereign on television
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If you think that the God bit is so important - then I can't help remembering what happened when Charles I, II and III(A) pushed that line of argument about divine right.
Seriously, it's a crass time in terms of established holidays. And we shouldn't be giging any mor ebank holidays. The country has to earn its living ((c) Cosnervative Party).
Well it led in Charles 1st case to the English civil war where you Scots ultimately ended up allied with him and were crushed by Cromwell and his new model army.
We then had the restoration of Charles II who was a popular monarch and ruled until his dying day. However Charles III, II and I were all anointed by God as the coronation will still make clear even if he is now a constitutional monarch.
Saturday for coronation day means I is not a bank holiday day either is it
If you think Charles II was popular, I wonder where you studied history. And God must have got confused about Charles III(A) as he inherited his divine right from his dad James VII and II, according to your theory.
Anointing is not relevant as kings become kings instantly.
Ranting about an imaginary ‘anti growth coalition’ is just an attempt to obscure the hard reality that the biggest brake on UK growth is Brexit - and that’s on the Tories.
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If they aren't in Westminster for it they should be watching the anointing of their new sovereign on television
So looking forward to Charles confirming ex cathedra the judgment of his ancestor that Our Lord t--k it -p t-- a-se from John the d-sc-ple. The look on your face.
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If they aren't in Westminster for it they should be watching the anointing of their new sovereign on television
What a load of utter rubbish and pathetic nonsense
Charles is of no interest to many in this country despite your weird way with words
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If you think that the God bit is so important - then I can't help remembering what happened when Charles I, II and III(A) pushed that line of argument about divine right.
Seriously, it's a crass time in terms of established holidays. And we shouldn't be giging any
mor ebank holidays. The country has to earn its living ((c) Cosnervative Party).
As I say up thread it’s rotten scheduling - it’s changeover day after the Whit half term so lots of people will be travelling. Add in the cup final and the Derby and you wonder why they’d choose that day.
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If they aren't in Westminster for it they should be watching the anointing of their new sovereign on television
What happens if God is busy on 3 June?
God is all eternal, every day for all time
Yeah but she might be getting her nails done - it’s a Saturday morning
The Coronation will be over by 2 30pm, the main race of the Derby does not start until 4 30pm
There will not be enough police to cover both events. Not with the crowds that can reasonably be expected. One or the other will have to be postponed.
Yes there will, Epsom is not in London it is in Surrey. The Met and a handful of other forces can deal with the coronation. I doubt the crowd would be much bigger than that for the London marathon on Sunday
They take officers from across the country for events like this. There were ten thousand extra police on duty in London for the funeral and there are hardly likely to be substantially fewer for the coronation.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
I doubt the crowd will be as big as for the funeral and even 10,000 is less than 10% of the 110,000 UK police officers outside London
Why should the rest of the UK pander to London royalists when they already have major UK events booked?
As it is the coronation of their next head of state anointed by God. It hasn't happened for 70 years and they should show some damn respect!!!!
If they aren't in Westminster for it they should be watching the anointing of their new sovereign on television
What happens if God is busy on 3 June?
God is all eternal, every day for all time
And in his Son manifestation, as queer as a clockwork orange.
Ranting about an imaginary ‘anti growth coalition’ is just an attempt to obscure the hard reality that the biggest brake on UK growth is Brexit - and that’s on the Tories.
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I got sucked in to watching "The Man Who Saved The World" the other day.
It is a very odd film given that the protagonist essentially plays himself, but it is an interesting tale - albeit quite well known now. Nobody had a clue at the time, of course.
I think it does show that even under extreme pressure it is likely that somebody in the chain will be keen to avoid WW3.
It’s gravely concerning.
Starmer. I cannot cope with Liz Truss for 2 years.
At a time when merely watching a game of League was supposed to be a banning offence.
My Dad had his lifetime ban from Twickenham framed. It never stopped him playing Union. Indeed he ended up Honorary Life President of his local RU club
And Leno, as in Jay.
That's news to me!
Perhaps one of the Covid dashboard people would like to step in and create a simplified "shall I turn on the washing machine" website using the publicly available information?
I know we have gridwatch but it is a bit on the geeky side.
We should have let COVID run it's course properly. It was nature's way of clearing out the old and fat and we spent hundreds of billions to save these ungrateful fucks.
Catchy…
A UK industry source said: “There is still a debate over who is best to offer guidance to households – government, suppliers or network operators.”
I'd say a public information campaign from OFGEM.
The G seems to think that there is a contradiction between offering advice and 'the Govt's libertarian principles', which I don't understand.
"Chess prodigy Hans Niemann suspected of cheating in more than 100 matches
Specialist website publishes 72-page dossier on claims"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chess-prodigy-hans-niemann-suspected-of-cheating-in-up-to-100-matches-htbfs9bq5
https://twitter.com/gerashchenko_en/status/1577703532932775938
Khodorkovsky pointed out that he doesn’t mention Prigozhin in his list of elite cowards.
Hunt and Hat would have made me have a careful look, as would, more doubtfully, Kemi, who has certainly got something of quality.
LT is not even minor ministerial quality. She is as voter worthy as Corbyn, and less intellectually thought out. As she puts it so well: She. Is. A. Disgrace.
And I voted Tory in 1997,2001 and 2005.
Nobody in NZ would do this.
On the other hand, you can get something called a “kiwi burger”, which is like a normal beef burger but includes a fried egg and beetroot.
If I’m honest, it’s not actually very good.
"The Prime Minister with no brain returns once more to frolic on insanity beach".
As an aside, Truss is certainly not stupid by any measurement - she is desperately trying to do another re-invention of the Conservative Party and Government - apparently Cameron, May and Johnson - indeed, the last 12 years - were managed decline.
The problem was she was a big part of the management of that decline - if she had walked out claiming the economic policy was wrong and advocated the current nonsense from the sidelines for the last few years, she'd have a soupcon of credibility but it's almost as though she only discovered supply-side economics after meeting with Kwasi Kwarteng who I increasingly think is the real power in Government.
Heck I may even campaign for them if Liz Truss gets any shitter.
A well directed public information film would work well I think, as did government messaging during Covid. Even during the Cummings stuff people followed the guidance closely.
A menacing soundtrack. In the background the sounds of electric shocks and a torture chamber. A grinning Vlad Putin with gloved hands on a dial. Cut to film of a British family. Someone’s feeling a bit chilly despite only wearing a T shirt. Cranks up the thermostat to 19C. Cut to Vlad turning up the dial. “No, no! Aaaargh! Buzz buzz”. Then a chilling silence.
Text appears on screen. “Conserve energy. Turn down the dial on Putin’s power”.
I played through that game and the only moderately suspicious element was that Niemann handled the opening very well which made you wonder whether someone in Carlsen's team had leaked the champion's preparation to Niemann. Even so the advantage Niemann got out of the opening was small and you would have expected Carlsen to turn it round which he kind of did. He lost in the end by pressing too hard for the win (we all do it...sigh) instead of acepting a hard-fought draw.
So all still a bit inconclusive.
But: if the pipeline existed, and Gazprom was not delivering, then it would be on the hook for the costs that Germany (and others incurred) in finding alternative gas supplies.
Because the pipeline no longer exists, Gazprom can declare Force Majeure: well, we would have shipped the gas to you but sadly someone blew up the pipeline so we're off the hook.
Wash your mouth out.
Pretty sure you can get the wind energy forecast for the grid too, so you could even tell people when there was next likely to be enough wind power that they could do the laundry.
Edit - and incidentally Surrey draft extra officers in to manage Derby Day as well, which is hardly surprising given they have 1800 on traffic duty alone.
Maybe OFGEM will do something, but if they do, I'd bet their attempt will be rubbish.
However joining most clubs, from golf clubs to Conservative clubs to bridge and bowls clubs to the horticultural society, to becoming a church warden or a local councillor is something people do most often when they are retired. When they no longer have to go to full time work and their children have left home and they have plenty of time on their hands.
That has and likely always will be the case
Ukraine has captured 460 Russian main battle tanks, 92 self-propelled howitzers, 448 infantry fighting vehicles, 195 armored fighting vehicles and 44 multiple-launch rocket systems, according to visual evidence compiled from social media and news reports from Oryx, an open-source intelligence consulting firm. The real number is likely higher as not every captured piece of equipment gets filmed."
source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-s-new-offensive-is-fueled-by-captured-russian-weapons/ar-AA12CIDc?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=021d444ce8f2421dbb8f23e48be27609
(If you have a subscirption, you can read it at the WSJ, where it originated.)
The media really went for a couple of energy companies who tried to do something like this on their own, sending people warm socks in the post, and advice about star jumps to keep themselves warm - but in the absence of being able to magic up the missing natural gas, what else is there to be done (in the short term)? I'd guess that's what the government want to avoid.
https://twitter.com/ShaunLintern/status/1577741225196769280?t=W2Vddw9RtmyrkX5NeD8NWw&s=19
Maybe the newspapers are hostile cos they don't get the advertising money these days?
SNP 49%
SLab 26%
SCon 13%
SLD 7%
Grn 2%
oth 2%
YG/Times 5 October
Her Majesty would have loved the idea.
If they aren't in Westminster for it they should be watching the anointing of their new sovereign on television
Seriously, it's a crass time in terms of established holidays. And we shouldn't be giging any mor ebank holidays. The country has to earn its living ((c) Cosnervative Party).
"Jim, your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to obtain special 'access' to a leading international Grand Master suspected of cheating in a very 'fundamental' way . . ."
Just a traffic light system would do. A timeline marked in Green, Amber and Red.
I would guess the government don't want to admit that their 'price freeze' hasn't actually solved the problem.
https://www.curiouscuisiniere.com/aussie-burger/
Beetroot, pineapple, runny fried egg, fried onions, cheese, bacon, tomato, lettuce oh, and a substantial burger.
*in small Australian towns these are combination shops, petrol stations and diners. It is the place to have your burger "with the lot".
Awkwardly, the shag-happy Etonian bombast-o-matic Boris is the best for quite a while, indeed I'd say the best Tory PM since Thatcher, and the best PM since Thatcher with the exception of Blair. Damn shame he couldn't get a grip on things
Which can be translated very easily to the social care system and its near collapse thanks to decades of being ignored and swept under the carpet.
BOTH main parties are culpable on this one. Total failure of politicians.
We then had the restoration of Charles II who was a popular monarch and ruled until his dying day. However Charles III, II and I were all anointed by God as the coronation will still make clear even if he is now a constitutional monarch.
Saturday for coronation day means it is not a bank holiday day either is it
Anointing is not relevant as kings become kings instantly.
https://twitter.com/nicolasturgeon/status/1577622048859365376?s=46&t=5Kxjv4OZxvW-sjpYRV8Img
Charles is of no interest to many in this country despite your weird way with words
https://twitter.com/ShaunLintern/status/1577000794603167745?t=tuComydpaniqr06dyajolg&s=19
But it's there are a number of others teetering on the edge:
https://twitter.com/ShaunLintern/status/1576484798486364160?t=MlwBa717VBjmn_4ct1Ecrg&s=19
So, what did our PM say about Social Care this morning? How is she to replace the funding from the NI surcharge.