A CON majority drops to a 17% betting chance – politicalbetting.com
Given the way the polls have moved in the last week or so this morning’s big conference speech was always going to be tricky for the new PM. Her party has dropped to its worst position for decades and so far punters don’t anticipate any change.
Greenpeace protest looks to have been well done to me. Message on the National news, no disruption to the nation at large, no destruction of property.
Yes, absolutely masterfully executed. You have to hand it to those two girls – they looked the part and got maximum airtime with a simple resonant message.
Truss gives every impression of wanting to make as many enemies as possible – "the anti-growth coalition" seems to comprise 60% of the population – a point that Danny Fink makes succinctly in today's Times.
"The big risk for anyone betting on LAB is that LizT might not survive." Really? We have a pretty clear pattern of Tory PMs being succeeded by even worse Tory PMs, Suella clearly intent on outflanking Liz on the barking front and not going to acquiesce in a coronation of Baldy Ben, no sane successors on the horizon. I think Liz going probably enhances the chances of lab maj.
This feels very like '97. The country feels like it is waking up from a nightmare.This government is not just becoming a laughing stock it's becoming reviled.
The only outcomes I can see now is whether the Tories will manage to hold 220-250 seats or so (not great but build-backable) or whether we are looking at sub 200 and a 1997 style rout.
This feels very like '97. The country feels like it is waking up from a nightmare.This government is not just becoming a laughing stock it's becoming reviled.
97 Labour was clearly popular and well regarded. Now it is more like they can't be any worse than the muppets.
"The big risk for anyone betting on LAB is that LizT might not survive." Really? We have a pretty clear pattern of Tory PMs being succeeded by even worse Tory PMs, Suella clearly intent on outflanking Liz on the barking front and not going to acquiesce in a coronation of Baldy Ben, no sane successors on the horizon. I think Liz going probably enhances the chances of lab maj.
Yes, it is a good point. How are they to engineer a coronation given the party is close to splitting over sound money and is having a collective breakdown?
Parody Prime Minister @Parody_PM · 16h Replying to @trussliz and @Conservatives My speech is almost finished. I just need to go through and mark all the places where I pause and smile gormlessly while waiting for a laugh that doesn't come.
"The big risk for anyone betting on LAB is that LizT might not survive." Really? We have a pretty clear pattern of Tory PMs being succeeded by even worse Tory PMs, Suella clearly intent on outflanking Liz on the barking front and not going to acquiesce in a coronation of Baldy Ben, no sane successors on the horizon. I think Liz going probably enhances the chances of lab maj.
Yes, it is a good point. How are they to engineer a coronation given the party is close to splitting over sound money and is having a collective breakdown?
Not to mention the Other Coronation. Ordering HMtK about like that.
Going for growth is fine, but it's just a number, a statistic of GDP.
At the moment it's just 1) Get growth (somehow) 2)...... 3)...... 4)...... 5) Profit!
What's needed is how that will impact upon people's lifes in a tangible and clear way and how we get from A to B. How are public services going to be improved, how are people getting more opportunities and freedom etc.
Even if we get growth, if people don't feel it, then it's pointless.
"The big risk for anyone betting on LAB is that LizT might not survive." Really? We have a pretty clear pattern of Tory PMs being succeeded by even worse Tory PMs, Suella clearly intent on outflanking Liz on the barking front and not going to acquiesce in a coronation of Baldy Ben, no sane successors on the horizon. I think Liz going probably enhances the chances of lab maj.
I think this is right. Wallace wouldn't win but would be a decent damage-limiter in the Howard mould. But, there'd be another factional scrum and someone would probably come the middle who almost nobody favoured – a la Truss.
My wife, who is rarely WFH today due to being poorly, popped into the room to see Truss' speech. She has zero interest in politics. "She's so weird, and she just says anything she likes. Of all the people they could have chosen, why her?"
I know that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, apparently, but Truss's three priorities (growth, growth, growth) didn't have the same resonance as Blair's (education, education, education). Not a trick that can succeed more than once, I think.
Maybe she wanted to prove that she has influences other than Thatcher.
Going for growth is fine, but it's just a number, a statistic of GDP.
At the moment it's just 1) Get growth (somehow) 2)...... 3)...... 4)...... 5) Profit!
What's needed is how that will impact upon people's lifes in a tangible and clear way and how we get from A to B. How are public services going to be improved, how are people getting more opportunities and freedom etc.
Even if we get growth, if people don't feel it, then it's pointless.
There's very little which they've sad how so far.
More pie. Which at least is consistent with the dropping of the obesity program. If they had offered more cake I would be fully signed up.
So one of Coffey’s first moves is to bin the obesity strategy…which was always going to be a hard one for her to deliver.
Not if she didn't also commit to it personally.
Even if it involved eating larval tapeworms or something drastic. No worse than Ms Dorries in the jungle and macropod testes/rectums (whatever it was).
Edit: not a point I would normally raise, but if you are thinking that she would find it hard to front that campaign, given the nature of politics and the media, and with some truth whether we like it or not, then there is a positive solution. Whatever the actual diet.
This feels very like '97. The country feels like it is waking up from a nightmare.This government is not just becoming a laughing stock it's becoming reviled.
97 Labour was clearly popular and well regarded. Now it is more like they can't be any worse than the muppets.
This is absolutely right. It is not so much that Labour are a popular choice, but the Tories are falling apart.
If Majors government had been experiencing this sort of dysfunction 1997 would have probably left the Tories sub-100 seats.
The reason Labour will win the next GE is because pretty much anyone can look at the government now and say that they need to be removed. Labour are the alternative and whilst SKS is not Blair, they look measured and competent so it’s worth giving them a go.
"The big risk for anyone betting on LAB is that LizT might not survive." Really? We have a pretty clear pattern of Tory PMs being succeeded by even worse Tory PMs, Suella clearly intent on outflanking Liz on the barking front and not going to acquiesce in a coronation of Baldy Ben, no sane successors on the horizon. I think Liz going probably enhances the chances of lab maj.
That has to be the scariest thing for Tory MPs at the moment - Truss isn't any good but their leadership election system almost guarantees that the next leader will be worse....
If Liz is ditching BoJo's nanny state obesity nonsense, she should go the whole hog and scrap the hated sugar tax. Every time I detect the foul taste of Aspartame in a drink that used to contain real sugar, it reminds me how much I viscerally despise George Osborne for introducing it.
The trouble with markets like this is that the worse things get for Liz, the more likely the Tories are to replace her with someone else i.e more electable. I think both Labour and Conservatives are prone to ideological purity but Labour see virtue in a principled defeat whereas the Tories can't abide a loser.
I'd rate a Tory majority under Truss at less than 10%.
OK Soz didn't see the speech and have been listening to JOB on the wireless.
Any good/redeeming points whatsoever?
No, James O'Brien doesn't have any...
Oh I know that; he is a self-hating public schoolboy.
But I still want to know about the speech as apart from his (and Lewis Goodall's on his programme) I have no feedback. In particular any good things about it.
The sheer stupidity, incompetence and staggering shitness of putting a handcuffed woman in the back of a squad car... that is parked on a railway line.
I hope she recovers well, and gets massive compensation from the ********.
This feels very like '97. The country feels like it is waking up from a nightmare.This government is not just becoming a laughing stock it's becoming reviled.
97 Labour was clearly popular and well regarded. Now it is more like they can't be any worse than the muppets.
This is absolutely right. It is not so much that Labour are a popular choice, but the Tories are falling apart.
If Majors government had been experiencing this sort of dysfunction 1997 would have probably left the Tories sub-100 seats.
The reason Labour will win the next GE is because pretty much anyone can look at the government now and say that they need to be removed. Labour are the alternative and whilst SKS is not Blair, they look measured and competent so it’s worth giving them a go.
I agree and the conservatives need a period in opposition
If Liz is ditching BoJo's nanny state obesity nonsense, she should go the whole hog and scrap the hated sugar tax. Every time I detect the foul taste of Aspartame in a drink that used to contain real sugar, it reminds me how much I viscerally despise George Osborne for introducing it.
Whether the strategy is being binned as a great blow for libertarianism or because the Health Minister eats too much cake, who can say?
She got through it but then that is saying something
I expect she remains in place not least as the utter disruption of removing her just now is a worse prospect but she will be removed in 23 if she cannot turn things round
The sheer stupidity, incompetence and staggering shitness of putting a handcuffed woman in the back of a squad car... that is parked on a railway line.
I hope she recovers well, and gets massive compensation from the ********.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot!
That is just awful. The concept of qualified immunity for Police that America has, which never seems to actually be qualified, needs abolishing. Those officers should be facing criminal charges.
Truss gives every impression of wanting to make as many enemies as possible – "the anti-growth coalition" seems to comprise 60% of the population – a point that Danny Fink makes succinctly in today's Times.
I think Truss has a point about the anti-growth/NIMBY/BANANA types, what she doesn't seem to have grasped is that the Tory party is full of such people.
I think that depends on the scope of your imagination.
In fairness, it wasn't really really terrible. We didn't have an excursus into Peppa Pig land or anything like that. It was just dull, so, so, so dull.
The 'anti growth coalition' is a lazy attempt at dividing lines. It's complete bullshit.
Opposing tax breaks to the super rich when people are struggling to make ends meet has absolutely nothing to do with growth.
All governments of every flavour like growth.
There are probably 5-10% of the country who are anti growth, quite a few of whom will vote Tory as very socially conservative. The rest are going to be mostly Greens.
When you label opponents there has to be something tangible there for it to be effective. Pretending Sunak for example is against growth is simply absurd. He just has a different path to get there which does not involve bankruptcy and wiping out the Tory parliamentary party to achieve it.
OED confirms: To sum up in a few words; to state concisely.Eg Twain Life on Mississippi The clerk nut-shelled the contrast between the former time and the present.
Edit: both nutshell and nut-shell forms are listed.
How's it a flaw? Yes she's said that NIMBYs are a problem, and she's right to do so. And she's promised proposals (and given outlines) on fixing that problem, which would be great if it goes through.
The bigger problem is that the backbench rebels will probably defeat her reforms, as they did when Boris tried to get sensible zoning reforms through, in which case the Tories deserve to lose the next election.
I think that depends on the scope of your imagination.
In fairness, it wasn't really really terrible. We didn't have an excursus into Peppa Pig land or anything like that. It was just dull, so, so, so dull.
She spoke to the public like they were five years old.
The bigger problem is that the backbench rebels will probably defeat her reforms, as they did when Boris tried to get sensible zoning reforms through, in which case the Tories deserve to lose the next election.
The Tories are going to lose the next election, whether they deserve to or not.
Truss gives every impression of wanting to make as many enemies as possible – "the anti-growth coalition" seems to comprise 60% of the population – a point that Danny Fink makes succinctly in today's Times.
I think Truss has a point about the anti-growth/NIMBY/BANANA types, what she doesn't seem to have grasped is that the Tory party is full of such people.
I think that's right, and is not commented on enough. Shire Tories in particular are against any disruption to their idylls, whether new houses, fracking, or whatever.
Ironically, I reckon Labour voters are less inclined to Nimbyism. Being largely city/urban dwellers, they are more familiar with, and tolerant of, large-scale building or infrastructure projects.
I think that depends on the scope of your imagination.
In fairness, it wasn't really really terrible. We didn't have an excursus into Peppa Pig land or anything like that. It was just dull, so, so, so dull.
She spoke to the public like they were five years old.
How's it a flaw? Yes she's said that NIMBYs are a problem, and she's right to do so. And she's promised proposals (and given outlines) on fixing that problem, which would be great if it goes through.
The bigger problem is that the backbench rebels will probably defeat her reforms, as they did when Boris tried to get sensible zoning reforms through, in which case the Tories deserve to lose the next election.
Or they lose it anyway as seats like Chesham and Amersham are lost with NIMBYs going LD if they think too much of the greenbelt will be developed
The bigger problem is that the backbench rebels will probably defeat her reforms, as they did when Boris tried to get sensible zoning reforms through, in which case the Tories deserve to lose the next election.
The Tories are going to lose the next election, whether they deserve to or not.
If they're going to lose anyway, then she may as well stick to her guns and get her ideas through, that she can.
No point pandering to opinion polls if you're going to lose anyway. There can be advantages to being a lame duck.
OED confirms: To sum up in a few words; to state concisely.Eg Twain Life on Mississippi The clerk nut-shelled the contrast between the former time and the present.
Edit: both nutshell and nut-shell forms are listed.
How's it a flaw? Yes she's said that NIMBYs are a problem, and she's right to do so. And she's promised proposals (and given outlines) on fixing that problem, which would be great if it goes through.
The bigger problem is that the backbench rebels will probably defeat her reforms, as they did when Boris tried to get sensible zoning reforms through, in which case the Tories deserve to lose the next election.
Or they lose it anyway as seats like Chesham and Amersham are lost with NIMBYs going LD if they think too much of the greenbelt will be developed
So they should.
There's no reason to hold those seats, if you're going to be big state NIMBYs interfering in the market with those seats.
Truss gives every impression of wanting to make as many enemies as possible – "the anti-growth coalition" seems to comprise 60% of the population – a point that Danny Fink makes succinctly in today's Times.
I think Truss has a point about the anti-growth/NIMBY/BANANA types, what she doesn't seem to have grasped is that the Tory party is full of such people.
I think that's right, and is not commented on enough. Shire Tories in particular are against any disruption to their idylls, whether new houses, fracking, or whatever.
Ironically, I reckon Labour voters are less inclined to Nimbyism. Being largely city/urban dwellers, they are more familiar with, and tolerant of, large-scale building or infrastructure projects.
Indeed. Starmer has said he will do a big housebuilding programme.
It is more the LDs, Greens and Residents Associations who are the biggest opposition to new development and easing planning laws, not Labour. Especially as in the greenbelt and home counties they are often the main opposition to the Tories at council level, not Labour.
Labour councillors are mainly based in big cities and suburbs and university towns
The speech in terms of expectations didn’t disappoint . It was wooden and full of vacuous nonsense , it was a box ticking exercise .
Unfortunately for Truss the news will show the Greenpeace protests. Although Truss dealt with this well the slogan who voted for this? Really sums up what many feel . The public did not vote for Truss and she is now without any democratic mandate embarking on a set of policies no one voted for apart from 80,000 Tory members .
Truss gives every impression of wanting to make as many enemies as possible – "the anti-growth coalition" seems to comprise 60% of the population – a point that Danny Fink makes succinctly in today's Times.
I think Truss has a point about the anti-growth/NIMBY/BANANA types, what she doesn't seem to have grasped is that the Tory party is full of such people.
I think that's right, and is not commented on enough. Shire Tories in particular are against any disruption to their idylls, whether new houses, fracking, or whatever.
Ironically, I reckon Labour voters are less inclined to Nimbyism. Being largely city/urban dwellers, they are more familiar with, and tolerant of, large-scale building or infrastructure projects.
Indeed. Starmer has said he will do a big housebuilding programme.
It is more the LDs, Greens and Residents Associations who are the biggest opposition to new development and easing planning laws, not Labour. Especially as in the greenbelt and home counties they are often the main opposition to the Tories at council level, not Labour.
Labour councillors are mainly based in big cities and suburbs and university towns
If the Tory leadership or MPs act like you then this is the only appropriate response.
I have hope Truss won't, but if backbench rebels thinking like you block any reforms or house building then maybe a vote for Labour would be the right response?
The usual suspects who really disliked her already will continue to dislike her, but actually many people have said she did better than expected.
She handled the hecklers pretty well too, responding with a smile and a decent joke about them, which is the best way to handle hecklers.
The usual suspects - 60% + of the country I assume?
Polling generally rates very few political leaders much above 40% in terms of 'like' - in most democratic countries of the world. She was a poor choice of leader and is unlikely to win a GE anytime soon. There are much worse options than a politician arguing for a pro-growth agenda. In that sense she did better than expected today. Unfortunately it is all too little and much to late now. She's not the one.. and never was.
By any normal standard she was pretty rubbish, but perhaps exceeded expectations this week.
Everyone is glad this is over.
It wasn't actually that bad, a bit pointless and delivered with mediocrity, sure. But didn't cause any major mayhem or dig themselves deeper into their self inflicted holes.
She got through it but then that is saying something
I expect she remains in place not least as the utter disruption of removing her just now is a worse prospect but she will be removed in 23 if she cannot turn things round
There are still 12½ weeks left of 2022 that she needs to survive. Plenty of time for the Defenestration Committee to act.
The usual suspects who really disliked her already will continue to dislike her, but actually many people have said she did better than expected.
She handled the hecklers pretty well too, responding with a smile and a decent joke about them, which is the best way to handle hecklers.
The usual suspects - 60% + of the country I assume?
Polling generally rates very few political leaders much above 40% in terms of 'like' - in most democratic countries of the world. She was a poor choice of leader and is unlikely to win a GE anytime soon. There are much worse options than a politician arguing for a pro-growth agenda. In that sense she did better than expected today. Unfortunately it is all too little and much to late now. She's not the one.. and never was.
She talks about arguing for a pro-growth agenda a lot, but she's not actually arguing for a pro-growth agenda. She makes wild claims that her policies will somehow, magically, lead to growth, but it's unclear how.
The speech in terms of expectations didn’t disappoint . It was wooden and full of vacuous nonsense , it was a box ticking exercise .
Unfortunately for Truss the news will show the Greenpeace protests. Although Truss dealt with this well the slogan who voted for this? Really sums up what many feel . The public did not vote for Truss and she is now without any democratic mandate embarking on a set of policies no one voted for apart from 80,000 Tory members .
And yet again this is wrong. We voted for a set of MPs. Those MPs are the ones who can decide whether or not to support Truss (and I hope they don't). We don't need a General Election, we need MPs with the sense to exercise their Parliamentary duty - what they were supposed to be elected for - and represent the best interests of their constituents. That may well in turn lead to a GE but that will be a decision for the MPs to make which is at it should be.
I think that depends on the scope of your imagination.
In fairness, it wasn't really really terrible. We didn't have an excursus into Peppa Pig land or anything like that. It was just dull, so, so, so dull.
She spoke to the public like they were five years old.
How's it a flaw? Yes she's said that NIMBYs are a problem, and she's right to do so. And she's promised proposals (and given outlines) on fixing that problem, which would be great if it goes through.
The bigger problem is that the backbench rebels will probably defeat her reforms, as they did when Boris tried to get sensible zoning reforms through, in which case the Tories deserve to lose the next election.
The problem the Tory party has is build or trigger the building sufficient houses where they are needed and that seat is probably a "Home County Lib Dem*" win come the next election
* other Lib Dem parties with different policies are available where nimby votes aren't important...
Thomas C. Theiner @noclador As things are moving fast on the Kherson front I drew up a few maps to explain the situation.
A short thread🧵:
In Kherson the russians hold a sizeable bridgehead on the right bank of the Dnipro river (shaded red), which could only be supplied by two bridges, one 1/n
The bigger problem is that the backbench rebels will probably defeat her reforms, as they did when Boris tried to get sensible zoning reforms through, in which case the Tories deserve to lose the next election.
The Tories are going to lose the next election, whether they deserve to or not.
If they're going to lose anyway, then she may as well stick to her guns and get her ideas through, that she can.
No point pandering to opinion polls if you're going to lose anyway. There can be advantages to being a lame duck.
I think that you are missing the point of the analogy. A lame duck walks around in pointless circles going nowhere.
How's it a flaw? Yes she's said that NIMBYs are a problem, and she's right to do so. And she's promised proposals (and given outlines) on fixing that problem, which would be great if it goes through.
The bigger problem is that the backbench rebels will probably defeat her reforms, as they did when Boris tried to get sensible zoning reforms through, in which case the Tories deserve to lose the next election.
The problem the Tory party has is build or trigger the building sufficient houses where they are needed and that seat is probably a "Home County Lib Dem*" win come the next election
* other Lib Dem parties with different policies are available where nimby votes aren't important...
They're in office, they're responsible.
If they succeed in getting the laws right so homes are built, then that may lead to a Lib Dem win.
If they fail to get the laws right so homes aren't built, then they deserve to lose the seat to the Lib Dems anyway.
If you're not going to use your limited time in office to do something for the good of the country, only to try to extend your limited time in office, then you don't deserve any time in the first place.
I think that depends on the scope of your imagination.
In fairness, it wasn't really really terrible. We didn't have an excursus into Peppa Pig land or anything like that. It was just dull, so, so, so dull.
Truss gives every impression of wanting to make as many enemies as possible – "the anti-growth coalition" seems to comprise 60% of the population – a point that Danny Fink makes succinctly in today's Times.
I think Truss has a point about the anti-growth/NIMBY/BANANA types, what she doesn't seem to have grasped is that the Tory party is full of such people.
I think that's right, and is not commented on enough. Shire Tories in particular are against any disruption to their idylls, whether new houses, fracking, or whatever.
Ironically, I reckon Labour voters are less inclined to Nimbyism. Being largely city/urban dwellers, they are more familiar with, and tolerant of, large-scale building or infrastructure projects.
Indeed. Starmer has said he will do a big housebuilding programme.
It is more the LDs, Greens and Residents Associations who are the biggest opposition to new development and easing planning laws, not Labour. Especially as in the greenbelt and home counties they are often the main opposition to the Tories at council level, not Labour.
Labour councillors are mainly based in big cities and suburbs and university towns
If the Tory leadership or MPs act like you then this is the only appropriate response.
I have hope Truss won't, but if backbench rebels thinking like you block any reforms or house building then maybe a vote for Labour would be the right response?
Fine, vote Labour then. If Labour want to build all over the greenbelt the Tories can then blame them if they get in power and do it
I think that depends on the scope of your imagination.
In fairness, it wasn't really really terrible. We didn't have an excursus into Peppa Pig land or anything like that. It was just dull, so, so, so dull.
She spoke to the public like they were five years old.
Tsk, she almost got it right but the phrase is underestimating the intelligence of the...people not overestimating it.
Truss also gives the electorate a choice, will they re elect her, the first UK PM elected solely at a comprehensive for secondary education? Or the grammar and private school educated Sir Keir?
Thomas C. Theiner @noclador As things are moving fast on the Kherson front I drew up a few maps to explain the situation.
A short thread🧵:
In Kherson the russians hold a sizeable bridgehead on the right bank of the Dnipro river (shaded red), which could only be supplied by two bridges, one 1/n
I think that depends on the scope of your imagination.
In fairness, it wasn't really really terrible. We didn't have an excursus into Peppa Pig land or anything like that. It was just dull, so, so, so dull.
So was Starmer.
Well, yes. Ed Davey undoubtedly did best. Cancelling their conference was an inspired move.
Truss also gives the electorate a choice, will they re elect her, the first UK PM elected solely at a comprehensive for secondary education? Or the grammar and private school educated Sir Keir?
Anyone who casts their vote based upon the type of school somebody attended should not have the vote.
Truss also gives the electorate a choice, will they re elect her, the first UK PM elected solely at a comprehensive for secondary education? Or the grammar and private school educated Sir Keir?
I really don't think people are bothered by that, and rightly so.
This feels very like '97. The country feels like it is waking up from a nightmare.This government is not just becoming a laughing stock it's becoming reviled.
97 Labour was clearly popular and well regarded. Now it is more like they can't be any worse than the muppets.
This is absolutely right. It is not so much that Labour are a popular choice, but the Tories are falling apart.
If Majors government had been experiencing this sort of dysfunction 1997 would have probably left the Tories sub-100 seats.
The reason Labour will win the next GE is because pretty much anyone can look at the government now and say that they need to be removed. Labour are the alternative and whilst SKS is not Blair, they look measured and competent so it’s worth giving them a go.
It does however present a danger for Labour and Starmer in particular. Being elected because 'you are not the other guys' does mean your support is generally shallow and likely to evaporate very quickly. If and when Starmer does win he will not be able to rest on his laurels or claim some great sea change in politics. He will have to prove that his party really is different and can make a difference or his prospects will very rapidly decline.
Any port in a storm doesn't transform Grimsby into Rotterdam.
David__Osland @David__Osland Liz Truss's speech is the strongest attack on the last five Conservative governments I've ever heard outside a Labour conference fringe meeting 11:49 AM · Oct 5, 2022
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Could be in single digits now.
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My speech is almost finished. I just need to go through and mark all the places where I pause and smile gormlessly while waiting for a laugh that doesn't come.
At the moment it's just
1) Get growth (somehow)
2)......
3)......
4)......
5) Profit!
What's needed is how that will impact upon people's lifes in a tangible and clear way and how we get from A to B. How are public services going to be improved, how are people getting more opportunities and freedom etc.
Even if we get growth, if people don't feel it, then it's pointless.
There's very little which they've sad how so far.
My wife, who is rarely WFH today due to being poorly, popped into the room to see Truss' speech. She has zero interest in politics. "She's so weird, and she just says anything she likes. Of all the people they could have chosen, why her?"
Why indeed.
Maybe she wanted to prove that she has influences other than Thatcher.
Even if it involved eating larval tapeworms or something drastic. No worse than Ms Dorries in the jungle and macropod testes/rectums (whatever it was).
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-horrifying-legacy-of-the-victorian-tapeworm-diet
Edit: not a point I would normally raise, but if you are thinking that she would find it hard to front that campaign, given the nature of politics and the media, and with some truth whether we like it or not, then there is a positive solution. Whatever the actual diet.
If Majors government had been experiencing this sort of dysfunction 1997 would have probably left the Tories sub-100 seats.
The reason Labour will win the next GE is because pretty much anyone can look at the government now and say that they need to be removed. Labour are the alternative and whilst SKS is not Blair, they look measured and competent so it’s worth giving them a go.
Did anyone check to see if she was wearing a necklace also?
Today it's 6.24%
Any good/redeeming points whatsoever?
I'd rate a Tory majority under Truss at less than 10%.
And no it is not Truss but looks like oil producers are going to limit supplies
But I still want to know about the speech as apart from his (and Lewis Goodall's on his programme) I have no feedback. In particular any good things about it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-63083486
The sheer stupidity, incompetence and staggering shitness of putting a handcuffed woman in the back of a squad car... that is parked on a railway line.
I hope she recovers well, and gets massive compensation from the ********.
The usual suspects who really disliked her already will continue to dislike her, but actually many people have said she did better than expected.
She handled the hecklers pretty well too, responding with a smile and a decent joke about them, which is the best way to handle hecklers.
Everyone is glad this is over.
I expect she remains in place not least as the utter disruption of removing her just now is a worse prospect but she will be removed in 23 if she cannot turn things round
That is just awful. The concept of qualified immunity for Police that America has, which never seems to actually be qualified, needs abolishing. Those officers should be facing criminal charges.
Opposing tax breaks to the super rich when people are struggling to make ends meet has absolutely nothing to do with growth.
All governments of every flavour like growth.
US mortgage rates highest in 16 years
In fairness, it wasn't really really terrible. We didn't have an excursus into Peppa Pig land or anything like that. It was just dull, so, so, so dull.
and not the more nuanced question of "who do I think is the best choice to be PM and has a chance of winning our batshit crazy second stage?"
https://twitter.com/peston/status/1577618964607270915
When you label opponents there has to be something tangible there for it to be effective. Pretending Sunak for example is against growth is simply absurd. He just has a different path to get there which does not involve bankruptcy and wiping out the Tory parliamentary party to achieve it.
OED confirms: To sum up in a few words; to state concisely.Eg Twain Life on Mississippi The clerk nut-shelled the contrast between the former time and the present.
Edit: both nutshell and nut-shell forms are listed.
That's the Chancellor's fault, that is.
The bigger problem is that the backbench rebels will probably defeat her reforms, as they did when Boris tried to get sensible zoning reforms through, in which case the Tories deserve to lose the next election.
Ironically, I reckon Labour voters are less inclined to Nimbyism. Being largely city/urban dwellers, they are more familiar with, and tolerant of, large-scale building or infrastructure projects.
No point pandering to opinion polls if you're going to lose anyway. There can be advantages to being a lame duck.
There's no reason to hold those seats, if you're going to be big state NIMBYs interfering in the market with those seats.
It is more the LDs, Greens and Residents Associations who are the biggest opposition to new development and easing planning laws, not Labour. Especially as in the greenbelt and home counties they are often the main opposition to the Tories at council level, not Labour.
Labour councillors are mainly based in big cities and suburbs and university towns
Unfortunately for Truss the news will show the Greenpeace protests. Although Truss dealt with this well the slogan who voted for this? Really sums up what many feel . The public did not vote for Truss and she is now without any democratic mandate embarking on a set of policies no one voted for apart from 80,000 Tory members .
Liz Truss - Never knowingly underestimating the Conservative party devastation.
I have hope Truss won't, but if backbench rebels thinking like you block any reforms or house building then maybe a vote for Labour would be the right response?
* other Lib Dem parties with different policies are available where nimby votes aren't important...
Thomas C. Theiner
@noclador
As things are moving fast on the Kherson front I drew up a few maps to explain the situation.
A short thread🧵:
In Kherson the russians hold a sizeable bridgehead on the right bank of the Dnipro river (shaded red), which could only be supplied by two bridges, one
1/n
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1577324136220839937
If they succeed in getting the laws right so homes are built, then that may lead to a Lib Dem win.
If they fail to get the laws right so homes aren't built, then they deserve to lose the seat to the Lib Dems anyway.
If you're not going to use your limited time in office to do something for the good of the country, only to try to extend your limited time in office, then you don't deserve any time in the first place.
Cleverly too.
Any port in a storm doesn't transform Grimsby into Rotterdam.
David__Osland
@David__Osland
Liz Truss's speech is the strongest attack on the last five Conservative governments I've ever heard outside a Labour conference fringe meeting
11:49 AM · Oct 5, 2022