It's very, very religious for a quite not religious country. All this shall be received into the grace and glory of the lord and entry into his kingdom, lord this, lord that, I mean I know it has to happen but I would have thought it won't do a huge amount to help the relevance of a modern monarchy.
At the end of the day this is Elizabeth II's funeral, and she was deeply Christian, by all accounts.
Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.
Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
All too easily.
On a different subject, the wreath is a very beautiful piece of work and tastefully done. Respect to everyone involved.
It is absolutely glorious isn't it.
It’s all glorious. This is why you have funerals. And, ideally, why you have beautiful funerals in Gothic abbeys with fluting English choirs: the beauty heals
Remarkable how many of the people in high authority are now women. Such a change over the course of Her Majesty's reign.
I'm not a particularly enthusiastic monarchist, but would comment that this event is actually about the best argument that you could ever put forward to preserve the monarchy. The worlds leaders descending on London. It is the top news item on almost every global news channel. The SNP and Sinn Fein falling in to line. The decolonise everything crowd nowhere to be seen. The soft power this projects is immense and far outweighs the cost associated with the keeping the monarchy. In political terms it also reveals of the value of the preservation of order and tradition over the chaos of revolutions in the pursuit of rapid societal progress.
It's very, very religious for a quite not religious country. All this shall be received into the grace and glory of the lord and entry into his kingdom, lord this, lord that, I mean I know it has to happen but I would have thought it won't do a huge amount to help the relevance of a modern monarchy.
The queen was seriously religious
This is her. This is why she was what she was
Also: properly Protestant. The burghers of Belfast will be embonered
It's very, very religious for a quite not religious country. All this shall be received into the grace and glory of the lord and entry into his kingdom, lord this, lord that, I mean I know it has to happen but I would have thought it won't do a huge amount to help the relevance of a modern monarchy.
At the end of the day this is Elizabeth II's funeral, and she was deeply Christian, by all accounts.
The Coronation will be more interesting.
That is fair. However I for one cannot relate to it at all - and therefore as a "national" closure event it feels a bit wanting.
I'm not a particularly enthusiastic monarchist, but would comment that this event is actually about the best argument that you could ever put forward to preserve the monarchy. The worlds leaders descending on London. It is the top news item on almost every global news channel. The SNP and Sinn Fein falling in to line. The decolonise everything crowd nowhere to be seen. The soft power this projects is immense and far outweighs the cost associated with the keeping the monarchy. In political terms it also reveals of the value of the preservation of order and tradition over the chaos of revolutions in the pursuit of rapid societal progress.
At least it is not a Catholic funeral, people are setting up to leave already. Catholics would have been there for another good hour. Never waste a good audience, as Paul undoubtedly said.
It's very, very religious for a quite not religious country. All this shall be received into the grace and glory of the lord and entry into his kingdom, lord this, lord that, I mean I know it has to happen but I would have thought it won't do a huge amount to help the relevance of a modern monarchy.
The queen was seriously religious
This is her. This is why she was what she was
Also: properly Protestant. The burghers of Belfast will be embonered
Can we have the coronation first at least, just so we can say we saw one?
Should we also have a communist dictatorship first, just so we can say we had seen one of those, too? My vote is no, no thanks.
Yes, an extravagant one off ceremony is totally the same thing as a dictatorship, I can see that now.
Your FOMO is making you read things that aren't there. A coronation is stupid. You don't need to see one to know that.
And perhaps you need to lighten up (and as you've done so before, don't pretend that is being told you cannot say something so you can play a martyr) and not take what was already clearly a joke so seriously. I would not mind if we forwent coronations, we have other ceremonials.
Oh, so you're trying to stop me playing the martyr? I thought we had free speech in this country. I'll just gag myself and stand on this pile of wood, feel free to apply the flame at your leisure.
You've just demonstrated my exact point, Farooq!
I like you, but I have not once said you should not say exactly what you like, yet you keep pretending I have. You seem to want to be told you cannot say what you like, and in the absence of that you are inventing it happening. That's why it is playing the martyr and not being a martyr - because it is in your head only.
Do not gag yourself, I cannot be clearer than that. Personally I enjoy people being deliberately provocative like good old Dynamo for example. It breaks up the mawkishness. I've made mocking jokes about things myself, and I've been watching episodes of American Dad through the services.
What I am saying is do not pretend you are being gagged when you clearly are not.
Not because you cannot say what you like. But because claiming black is white is stupid.
Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.
Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
All too easily.
On a different subject, the wreath is a very beautiful piece of work and tastefully done. Respect to everyone involved.
It is absolutely glorious isn't it.
It’s all glorious. This is why you have funerals. And, ideally, why you have beautiful funerals in Gothic abbeys with fluting English choirs: the beauty heals
Remarkable how many of the people in high authority are now women. Such a change over the course of Her Majesty's reign.
Although there is only one living queen regnant.
Why are the organists the sub organist and assistant organist? is head organist an honorary role held by Prince Andrew or someone?
I'm not a particularly enthusiastic monarchist, but would comment that this event is actually about the best argument that you could ever put forward to preserve the monarchy. The worlds leaders descending on London. It is the top news item on almost every global news channel. The SNP and Sinn Fein falling in to line. The decolonise everything crowd nowhere to be seen. The soft power this projects is immense and far outweighs the cost associated with the keeping the monarchy. In political terms it also reveals of the value of the preservation of order and tradition over the chaos of revolutions in the pursuit of rapid societal progress.
Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.
Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
All too easily.
On a different subject, the wreath is a very beautiful piece of work and tastefully done. Respect to everyone involved.
It is absolutely glorious isn't it.
It’s all glorious. This is why you have funerals. And, ideally, why you have beautiful funerals in Gothic abbeys with fluting English choirs: the beauty heals
Remarkable how many of the people in high authority are now women. Such a change over the course of Her Majesty's reign.
Although there is only one living queen regnant.
Why are the organists the sub organist and assistant organist? is head organist an honorary role held by Prince Andrew or someone?
The organist is the man conducting the choir, who may be called the Director of Music in more modern parlance. The assistant organist is his deputy and the sub organist is an assistant to him because it's rather a lot of work.
In case you are asking why it works that way, it's to do with the endowments that pay the salaries. Traditionally there would be no conductor and the person in charge of the choir would play the organ. That is still the way in many, perhaps most parish churches that have choirs. And so money left to pay for him (usually) would be left 'to pay the salary of the organist.'
But today, generally, the role of the DM is to conduct the singing so somebody else plays the organ.
It's very, very religious for a quite not religious country. All this shall be received into the grace and glory of the lord and entry into his kingdom, lord this, lord that, I mean I know it has to happen but I would have thought it won't do a huge amount to help the relevance of a modern monarchy.
The queen was seriously religious
This is her. This is why she was what she was
Also: properly Protestant. The burghers of Belfast will be embonered
A Catholic priest said a prayer in it!
The first protestant preachers were originally Catholic, so what could be more protestant than that?
At least it is not a Catholic funeral, people are setting up to leave already. Catholics would have been there for another good hour. Never waste a good audience, as Paul undoubtedly said.
As a child one of the Ministers was notorious for droning on, such that if he got much beyond the allotted hour people would start filing out…
It's very, very religious for a quite not religious country. All this shall be received into the grace and glory of the lord and entry into his kingdom, lord this, lord that, I mean I know it has to happen but I would have thought it won't do a huge amount to help the relevance of a modern monarchy.
The queen was seriously religious
This is her. This is why she was what she was
Also: properly Protestant. The burghers of Belfast will be embonered
That coupled with being Defender of the Faith, Supreme governor of the Church of England as well, so it was always going to be deeply religious.
Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.
Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
GPS jamming? So if you opened Google Maps it wouldn't know where you are?
How does that work, isn't your phone looking for a satellite in the sky? Fascinating.
Hope it's ok with Big G if I answer this...
They (the USA) use BFEA on the satellites to degrade the L1 C/A signal but M-Code (the US military signal) uses a different modulation type and is unaffected. The only people with functioning GNSS in this scenario right now are using Galileo, GLONASS or US sanctioned M-Code receivers.
I'm not a particularly enthusiastic monarchist, but would comment that this event is actually about the best argument that you could ever put forward to preserve the monarchy. The worlds leaders descending on London. It is the top news item on almost every global news channel. The SNP and Sinn Fein falling in to line. The decolonise everything crowd nowhere to be seen. The soft power this projects is immense and far outweighs the cost associated with the keeping the monarchy. In political terms it also reveals of the value of the preservation of order and tradition over the chaos of revolutions in the pursuit of rapid societal progress.
word soup
In your terms your commentary on his comment is attempting to silence him (somehow, I've still not figured outhow). Why not just light the match yourself?
Perfect funereal weather here. Grey and drizzly has suddenly given way to sparkly and bright. Hopefully something similar in Westminster this afternoon.
Much the same here in Gloucestershire this morning, Cookie.
We walked the dogs on Cleeve Hill and were surprised at the number of golfers playing. One imagines they had the respect to be using black balls.
At least it is not a Catholic funeral, people are setting up to leave already. Catholics would have been there for another good hour. Never waste a good audience, as Paul undoubtedly said.
As a child one of the Ministers was notorious for droning on, such that if he got much beyond the allotted hour people would start filing out…
Yes, I remember sermons like that. If the taste of the second peppermint had worn off, he’d gone on too long.
Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.
Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
All too easily.
On a different subject, the wreath is a very beautiful piece of work and tastefully done. Respect to everyone involved.
It is absolutely glorious isn't it.
It’s all glorious. This is why you have funerals. And, ideally, why you have beautiful funerals in Gothic abbeys with fluting English choirs: the beauty heals
Remarkable how many of the people in high authority are now women. Such a change over the course of Her Majesty's reign.
Although there is only one living queen regnant.
Why are the organists the sub organist and assistant organist? is head organist an honorary role held by Prince Andrew or someone?
The organist is the man conducting the choir, who may be called the Director of Music in more modern parlance. The assistant organist is his deputy and the sub organist is an assistant to him because it's rather a lot of work.
In case you are asking why it works that way, it's to do with the endowments that pay the salaries. Traditionally there would be no conductor and the person in charge of the choir would play the organ. That is still the way in many, perhaps most parish churches that have choirs. And so money left to pay for him (usually) would be left 'to pay the salary of the organist.'
But today, generally, the role of the DM is to conduct the singing so somebody else plays the organ.
It was pretty much like that back in the 80s too when I was a chorister, but the organist does still get to play the organ while their deputy conducts, especially on special occasions.
I usually only get to see choral music on telly once a year when carols from Kings is on, so this is a treat (to my ears they are better than recent outings of Kings College choir).
I'm not a particularly enthusiastic monarchist, but would comment that this event is actually about the best argument that you could ever put forward to preserve the monarchy. The worlds leaders descending on London. It is the top news item on almost every global news channel. The SNP and Sinn Fein falling in to line. The decolonise everything crowd nowhere to be seen. The soft power this projects is immense and far outweighs the cost associated with the keeping the monarchy. In political terms it also reveals of the value of the preservation of order and tradition over the chaos of revolutions in the pursuit of rapid societal progress.
word soup
In your terms your commentary on his comment is attempting to silence him (somehow, I've still not figured outhow). Why not just light the match yourself?
Yeah Farooq is talking nonsense. Actually darkage put my feelings towards this whole thing quite well. I think it's ridiculous, way over the top, there are far more important issues around but nonetheless I cannot deny the impact it has on so many. If they're willing to let me speak which they mostly are, I can only afford the same right to those on the other side.
Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.
Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
GPS jamming? So if you opened Google Maps it wouldn't know where you are?
How does that work, isn't your phone looking for a satellite in the sky? Fascinating.
Hope it's ok with Big G if I answer this...
They (the USA) use BFEA on the satellites to degrade the L1 C/A signal but M-Code (the US military signal) uses a different modulation type and is unaffected. The only people with functioning GNSS in this scenario right now are using Galileo, GLONASS or US sanctioned M-Code receivers.
My iPhone would work then, it uses Galileo and GLONASS
At least it is not a Catholic funeral, people are setting up to leave already. Catholics would have been there for another good hour. Never waste a good audience, as Paul undoubtedly said.
It's only part of a funeral. There's two further episodes due in Windsor later.
Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.
Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
GPS jamming? So if you opened Google Maps it wouldn't know where you are?
How does that work, isn't your phone looking for a satellite in the sky? Fascinating.
Hope it's ok with Big G if I answer this...
They (the USA) use BFEA on the satellites to degrade the L1 C/A signal but M-Code (the US military signal) uses a different modulation type and is unaffected. The only people with functioning GNSS in this scenario right now are using Galileo, GLONASS or US sanctioned M-Code receivers.
My iPhone would work then, it uses Galileo and GLONASS
Not if the jamming of the frequencies used is local.
Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.
Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
GPS jamming? So if you opened Google Maps it wouldn't know where you are?
How does that work, isn't your phone looking for a satellite in the sky? Fascinating.
Hope it's ok with Big G if I answer this...
They (the USA) use BFEA on the satellites to degrade the L1 C/A signal but M-Code (the US military signal) uses a different modulation type and is unaffected. The only people with functioning GNSS in this scenario right now are using Galileo, GLONASS or US sanctioned M-Code receivers.
My iPhone would work then, it uses Galileo and GLONASS
Not if the jamming of the frequencies used is local.
Thought the point being made was that it's not, if it is then clearly yes makes sense. Thanks for the insight.
My new iPhone is supposed to have much better GPS reception than previous, I will see next week, I am sure nobody cares
I REALLY want to see Biden and Macron sing “God Save the King”
Honestly not sure of the etiquette of singing someone else's anthem. Obviously Heads of State and government probably shouldn't, but if you are in a crowd somewhere singing Star Spangled Banner should you join in?
Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.
Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
GPS jamming? So if you opened Google Maps it wouldn't know where you are?
How does that work, isn't your phone looking for a satellite in the sky? Fascinating.
Hope it's ok with Big G if I answer this...
They (the USA) use BFEA on the satellites to degrade the L1 C/A signal but M-Code (the US military signal) uses a different modulation type and is unaffected. The only people with functioning GNSS in this scenario right now are using Galileo, GLONASS or US sanctioned M-Code receivers.
My iPhone would work then, it uses Galileo and GLONASS
Not if the jamming of the frequencies used is local.
Thought the point being made was that it's not, if it is then clearly yes makes sense. Thanks for the insight.
My new iPhone is supposed to have much better GPS reception than previous, I will see next week, I am sure nobody cares
There were several posts before this saying it could either be the satellite signal degraded, or the radio frequencies jammed locally. The latter seems much more likely.
Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.
Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
GPS jamming? So if you opened Google Maps it wouldn't know where you are?
How does that work, isn't your phone looking for a satellite in the sky? Fascinating.
Hope it's ok with Big G if I answer this...
They (the USA) use BFEA on the satellites to degrade the L1 C/A signal but M-Code (the US military signal) uses a different modulation type and is unaffected. The only people with functioning GNSS in this scenario right now are using Galileo, GLONASS or US sanctioned M-Code receivers.
My iPhone would work then, it uses Galileo and GLONASS
Not if the jamming of the frequencies used is local.
Thought the point being made was that it's not, if it is then clearly yes makes sense. Thanks for the insight.
My new iPhone is supposed to have much better GPS reception than previous, I will see next week, I am sure nobody cares
There were several posts before this saying it could either be the satellite signal degraded, or the radio frequencies jammed locally. The latter seems much more likely.
Yes saw those, seems reasonable and I now understand a lot more than I did, thanks folks
I REALLY want to see Biden and Macron sing “God Save the King”
Honestly not sure of the etiquette of singing someone else's anthem. Obviously Heads of State and government probably shouldn't, but if you are in a crowd somewhere singing Star Spangled Banner should you join in?
Well, I would. But then I'm an ordinary person, and it's not an anthem that obliges the singer to eulogise their love for anyone or even any country in particular.
I REALLY want to see Biden and Macron sing “God Save the King”
Honestly not sure of the etiquette of singing someone else's anthem. Obviously Heads of State and government probably shouldn't, but if you are in a crowd somewhere singing Star Spangled Banner should you join in?
I REALLY want to see Biden and Macron sing “God Save the King”
Honestly not sure of the etiquette of singing someone else's anthem. Obviously Heads of State and government probably shouldn't, but if you are in a crowd somewhere singing Star Spangled Banner should you join in?
Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.
Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
All too easily.
On a different subject, the wreath is a very beautiful piece of work and tastefully done. Respect to everyone involved.
It is absolutely glorious isn't it.
It’s all glorious. This is why you have funerals. And, ideally, why you have beautiful funerals in Gothic abbeys with fluting English choirs: the beauty heals
Remarkable how many of the people in high authority are now women. Such a change over the course of Her Majesty's reign.
Although there is only one living queen regnant.
Why are the organists the sub organist and assistant organist? is head organist an honorary role held by Prince Andrew or someone?
The organist is the man conducting the choir, who may be called the Director of Music in more modern parlance. The assistant organist is his deputy and the sub organist is an assistant to him because it's rather a lot of work.
In case you are asking why it works that way, it's to do with the endowments that pay the salaries. Traditionally there would be no conductor and the person in charge of the choir would play the organ. That is still the way in many, perhaps most parish churches that have choirs. And so money left to pay for him (usually) would be left 'to pay the salary of the organist.'
But today, generally, the role of the DM is to conduct the singing so somebody else plays the organ.
The late Queen got the President of the USA, the chancellor of Germany, the president of France, and the Emperor of Japan: to sing God Save the King in Westminster Abbey, in London, in England
I saw several foreign dignitaries not singing it - if the King is not your head of state, why would you? And some former colonies might see it as treasonous.
I REALLY want to see Biden and Macron sing “God Save the King”
Honestly not sure of the etiquette of singing someone else's anthem. Obviously Heads of State and government probably shouldn't, but if you are in a crowd somewhere singing Star Spangled Banner should you join in?
Yes, to show respect.
EDIT: Unless you don't know the words of course.
No, thats why footballers etc don't sing each others anthems.
I saw several foreign dignitaries not singing it - if the King is not your head of state, why would you? And some former colonies might see it as treasonous.
Yet earlier they showed Macron many times. Might be because he was fairly early so there were not as many recognizable leaders to show.
I REALLY want to see Biden and Macron sing “God Save the King”
Honestly not sure of the etiquette of singing someone else's anthem. Obviously Heads of State and government probably shouldn't, but if you are in a crowd somewhere singing Star Spangled Banner should you join in?
Yes, to show respect.
EDIT: Unless you don't know the words of course.
There is also actually a very good reason not to sing the American national anthem - it's actually bloody difficult to sing. Lots of high notes and complicated jumps.
That's why it's usually sung by a soloist while everyone listens.
Is it just me, or was that not as sombre and dark as this might have been. I found that positive and light compared to the black and white films of past state funerals.
Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.
Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
GPS jamming? So if you opened Google Maps it wouldn't know where you are?
How does that work, isn't your phone looking for a satellite in the sky? Fascinating.
Hope it's ok with Big G if I answer this...
They (the USA) use BFEA on the satellites to degrade the L1 C/A signal but M-Code (the US military signal) uses a different modulation type and is unaffected. The only people with functioning GNSS in this scenario right now are using Galileo, GLONASS or US sanctioned M-Code receivers.
My iPhone would work then, it uses Galileo and GLONASS
They (the USA) can suppress those with localised pseudolites if they are that arsed.
Is it just me, or was that not as sombre and dark as this might have been. I found that positive and light compared to the black and white films of past state funerals.
Maybe because they were all in black and white.
But you may be also be right , considering the general choice of singing and hymns.
I REALLY want to see Biden and Macron sing “God Save the King”
Honestly not sure of the etiquette of singing someone else's anthem. Obviously Heads of State and government probably shouldn't, but if you are in a crowd somewhere singing Star Spangled Banner should you join in?
Yes, to show respect.
EDIT: Unless you don't know the words of course.
No, thats why footballers etc don't sing each others anthems.
That's a bit different when they're on stage like that, as opposed to being in a congregation.
When I was a kid at school in Australia I used to sing Advanced Australia Fair when it was done during school services, despite being the POME Bastard of the class. I was taught by my dad, and I agree, that its a matter of showing respect. Like taking your shoes off if someone asks you to do so.
Is it just me, or was that not as sombre and dark as this might have been. I found that positive and light compared to the black and white films of past state funerals.
Because it's a beautiful day? (It is here). I feel like people should only die in the winter for some reason.
I REALLY want to see Biden and Macron sing “God Save the King”
Honestly not sure of the etiquette of singing someone else's anthem. Obviously Heads of State and government probably shouldn't, but if you are in a crowd somewhere singing Star Spangled Banner should you join in?
Yes, to show respect.
EDIT: Unless you don't know the words of course.
There is also actually a very good reason not to sing the American national anthem - it's actually bloody difficult to sing. Lots of high notes and complicated jumps.
That's why it's usually sung by a soloist while everyone listens.
Like the Marseillaise, great tune but hard to sing, though not as hard as the Italian one. German anthem is pretty easy and in a nice middle register most of the time.
Is it just me, or was that not as sombre and dark as this might have been. I found that positive and light compared to the black and white films of past state funerals.
It isn't just you. It was a moving service in many ways, but I didn't find it mournful. That may of course be because of her age. Yes, we will miss her, but as I said at the time I think given the choice she would have chosen the way her life ended and she was 96. Being too sombre would be a bit jarring.
I REALLY want to see Biden and Macron sing “God Save the King”
Honestly not sure of the etiquette of singing someone else's anthem. Obviously Heads of State and government probably shouldn't, but if you are in a crowd somewhere singing Star Spangled Banner should you join in?
Yes, to show respect.
EDIT: Unless you don't know the words of course.
There is also actually a very good reason not to sing the American national anthem - it's actually bloody difficult to sing. Lots of high notes and complicated jumps.
That's why it's usually sung by a soloist while everyone listens.
Like the Marseillaise, great tune but hard to sing, though not as hard as the Italian one. German anthem is pretty easy and in a nice middle register most of the time.
For all that GSTK is not a great tune, its pacing and simplicity make it pretty easy to belt out drunkenly in semi-unison, as compared to more exciting ones.
I REALLY want to see Biden and Macron sing “God Save the King”
Honestly not sure of the etiquette of singing someone else's anthem. Obviously Heads of State and government probably shouldn't, but if you are in a crowd somewhere singing Star Spangled Banner should you join in?
Yes, to show respect.
EDIT: Unless you don't know the words of course.
There is also actually a very good reason not to sing the American national anthem - it's actually bloody difficult to sing. Lots of high notes and complicated jumps.
That's why it's usually sung by a soloist while everyone listens.
Like the Marseillaise, great tune but hard to sing, though not as hard as the Italian one. German anthem is pretty easy and in a nice middle register most of the time.
The hardest one I've ever sung is the Argentine national anthem. That's musically demanding and fiendishly complicated in terms of multiple movements.
I REALLY want to see Biden and Macron sing “God Save the King”
Honestly not sure of the etiquette of singing someone else's anthem. Obviously Heads of State and government probably shouldn't, but if you are in a crowd somewhere singing Star Spangled Banner should you join in?
Yes, to show respect.
EDIT: Unless you don't know the words of course.
No, thats why footballers etc don't sing each others anthems.
That's a bit different when they're on stage like that, as opposed to being in a congregation.
When I was a kid at school in Australia I used to sing Advanced Australia Fare when it was done during school services, despite being the POME Bastard of the class. I was taught by my dad, and I agree, that its a matter of showing respect. Like taking your shoes off if someone asks you to do so.
Im of the opinion you stand in respect, not sing. Australia, as a Commonwealth realm is a bit different imo I would never sing The Star Spangled Banner or the Marseillaise but I'd stand whilst Americans and French did
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The Coronation will be more interesting.
This is her. This is why she was what she was
Also: properly Protestant. The burghers of Belfast will be embonered
I like you, but I have not once said you should not say exactly what you like, yet you keep pretending I have. You seem to want to be told you cannot say what you like, and in the absence of that you are inventing it happening. That's why it is playing the martyr and not being a martyr - because it is in your head only.
Do not gag yourself, I cannot be clearer than that. Personally I enjoy people being deliberately provocative like good old Dynamo for example. It breaks up the mawkishness. I've made mocking jokes about things myself, and I've been watching episodes of American Dad through the services.
What I am saying is do not pretend you are being gagged when you clearly are not.
Not because you cannot say what you like. But because claiming black is white is stupid.
In case you are asking why it works that way, it's to do with the endowments that pay the salaries. Traditionally there would be no conductor and the person in charge of the choir would play the organ. That is still the way in many, perhaps most parish churches that have choirs. And so money left to pay for him (usually) would be left 'to pay the salary of the organist.'
But today, generally, the role of the DM is to conduct the singing so somebody else plays the organ.
The whole thing is a big: F You, Atheists
Also: Catholics, meh
I believe some atheists try for a church without god kind of event, but it isn't really the same.
They (the USA) use BFEA on the satellites to degrade the L1 C/A signal but M-Code (the US military signal) uses a different modulation type and is unaffected. The only people with functioning GNSS in this scenario right now are using Galileo, GLONASS or US sanctioned M-Code receivers.
ETA actually it looks like its the same cameras, better curated by Sky
We walked the dogs on Cleeve Hill and were surprised at the number of golfers playing. One imagines they had the respect to be using black balls.
I usually only get to see choral music on telly once a year when carols from Kings is on, so this is a treat (to my ears they are better than recent outings of Kings College choir).
He didn’t sing the national anthem.
My new iPhone is supposed to have much better GPS reception than previous, I will see next week, I am sure nobody cares
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EDIT: Unless you don't know the words of course.
What is soft power, if not that?
Got me.
It’s easy to imagine yourself a foreign viewer today wondering at the sheer differentness of this country and its national rituals.
Good for the tourism industry.
Our crown cannot even rustle up a billion dollars between them.
That's why it's usually sung by a soloist while everyone listens.
But you may be also be right , considering the general choice of singing and hymns.
When I was a kid at school in Australia I used to sing Advanced Australia Fair when it was done during school services, despite being the POME Bastard of the class. I was taught by my dad, and I agree, that its a matter of showing respect. Like taking your shoes off if someone asks you to do so.
I would never sing The Star Spangled Banner or the Marseillaise but I'd stand whilst Americans and French did