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  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,840
    edited September 2022
    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    I wonder if anyone has spotted the irony of a hymn that includes 'Thy throne shall never, like Earth's proud empires, pass away?'

    Not sure I see the irony. The Queen was devout. And almost certainly chose that hymn.
    I was thinking that this is, very literally, the passing of the last vestige of an Empire, but the implication could almost be the Throne will endure beyond it.
    On a theological point of order, isn't that the Divine throne?

    Psalm 47:7-9

    7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding.

    8 God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness.

    9 The princes of the people are gathered together, even the people of the God of Abraham: for the shields of the earth belong unto God: he is greatly exalted.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,963

    You're a moderator are you? Funny how you're in favour of cancel culture when it suits you.

    You enjoy the funeral, I can post what I like assuming the moderation team is okay with it.
    You can, and the rest of us can judge you for it.

    You mention the moderation team, but why are you number 3?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,587
    Tough reading to give an amateur, that one.
  • kle4 said:

    That was horrendously spoken lol

    Thoguht she did pretty well myself. Clear, not wooden or monotone.
    She's done worse, I'll give you that.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,670

    At The King's request, the wreath contains foliage of Rosemary, English Oak and Myrtle (cut from a plant grown from Myrtle in The Queen's wedding bouquet) and flowers, in shades of gold, pink and deep burgundy, with touches of white, cut from the gardens of Royal Residences.

    https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/status/1571805807196655617

    The wreath is really beautiful. For me it's the star of the funeral so far.
    Reminds me of the bright colours the Queen always wore
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    This may literally be true, but it often feels like most hymns were not designed to be sung to the tunes they are connected with.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    You're a moderator are you? Funny how you're in favour of cancel culture when it suits you.

    You enjoy the funeral, I can post what I like assuming the moderation team is okay with it.
    There is a time and place and now is not the time
    You can just ignore if you so desire.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    Another very Scottish piece now.

    Crimond was popularised as in effect the signature tune of the Glasgow Orpheus Choir in the years after the First World War. Rediscovered by one of its members, they began to sing it as they unrobed after concerts, bringing it Hugh Roberton's attention. it was rewritten to become the final piece in almost all their later concerts. Sung unaccompanied, of course, as in verse 3 here.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Roger said:

    If you’re watching the BBC I’d suggest trying ITV - very little commentary.

    The BBC mercifully has none at all.

    I can't help picturing the director saying 'I want a top shot'.

    And the rigger replying 'You've gotta be joking!'

    '.....Ok but you better bloody use it!'

    .....And have they used it! Every third shot looks like a chess board
    The camera work has been good, some dramatic shots and pans.
  • Driver said:

    You're a moderator are you? Funny how you're in favour of cancel culture when it suits you.

    You enjoy the funeral, I can post what I like assuming the moderation team is okay with it.
    You can, and the rest of us can judge you for it.

    You mention the moderation team, but why are you number 3?
    You are the most pointless poster here, your MO is to tell people off. I've never seen you contribute a single intelligent or original thought. You can get to fuck now matey.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397

    Vicar of Dibley theme now

    No it isn't. That was written by Goodall.
  • The unspoken question on everyone's lips.

    Where the fcuk is Paddington?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,404
    kle4 said:

    That was horrendously spoken lol

    Thoguht she did pretty well myself. Clear, not wooden or monotone.
    Although the passage itself?
    Makes no sense whatsoever to the average punter. One of the least poetic and uplifting possible.
  • GadflyGadfly Posts: 1,191
    edited September 2022

    Two quick thoughts:

    Those choristers are good (not that I am an expert). And what an event to be part of, so young;
    and BBC2 has the service signed. It's funny seeing the signing guy signing the hymns...

    He's not on BBC1.

    Edit: Apols, you specified BBC2.

  • Andy_CookeAndy_Cooke Posts: 5,001
    Jonathan said:

    Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.

    Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    In the nicest possible way, Our Lord was a complete nutter wasn't he? The stone cold literal minded certainty of the passage Truss has just read - it's not Thomas you worry about, it's the rest of them.
  • Jonathan said:

    Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.

    Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
    GPS jamming? So if you opened Google Maps it wouldn't know where you are?

    How does that work, isn't your phone looking for a satellite in the sky? Fascinating.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    I wonder if anyone has spotted the irony of a hymn that includes 'Thy throne shall never, like Earth's proud empires, pass away?'

    Not sure I see the irony. The Queen was devout. And almost certainly chose that hymn.
    I was thinking that this is, very literally, the passing of the last vestige of an Empire, but the implication could almost be the Throne will endure beyond it.
    On a theological point of order, isn't that the Divine throne?

    Psalm 47:7-9

    7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding.

    8 God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness.

    9 The princes of the people are gathered together, even the people of the God of Abraham: for the shields of the earth belong unto God: he is greatly exalted.
    Yes, which is another place where irony comes in.
  • SeanT said:

    This sublime music is bringing me close to tears. Or it might be the English fizz

    The Queen is departing the world: with predictably impeccable taste

    Jesus actual Sean is back
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,840
    edited September 2022

    The unspoken question on everyone's lips.

    Where the fcuk is Paddington?

    The one between Marylebone and Euston.

    Edit: actually quite a few folk asking that, sort of. The wires came down between it and Reading this morning. Poor folk.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,803
    kle4 said:

    This may literally be true, but it often feels like most hymns were not designed to be sung to the tunes they are connected with.

    I was thinking exactly the same thing! The tunes of hynns are something Christianity hasn't really got right. I understand the principle of communal singing engensering togetherness, but it has to be a tune which is a) easy and b) enjoyable to sing. Otherwise everyone is just grimly lookinh forward to the end of it.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,930

    Jonathan said:

    Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.

    Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
    GPS jamming? So if you opened Google Maps it wouldn't know where you are?

    How does that work, isn't your phone looking for a satellite in the sky? Fascinating.
    Either they are modifying the signals of the satellites themselves (unlikely) or they are producing interference in the area which disrupts the signal.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,803
    Roger said:

    If you’re watching the BBC I’d suggest trying ITV - very little commentary.

    The BBC mercifully has none at all.

    I can't help picturing the director saying 'I want a top shot'.

    And the rigger replying 'You've gotta be joking!'

    '.....Ok but you better bloody use it!'

    .....And have they used it! Every third shot looks like a chess board
    Yes, after my earlier whinge, I'd say the coverage is now spot on.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    This is trough Welby: mogadon man on mogadon stuff.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    This may literally be true, but it often feels like most hymns were not designed to be sung to the tunes they are connected with.

    I was thinking exactly the same thing! The tunes of hynns are something Christianity hasn't really got right. I understand the principle of communal singing engensering togetherness, but it has to be a tune which is a) easy and b) enjoyable to sing. Otherwise everyone is just grimly lookinh forward to the end of it.
    In the case of Wesley, the words were written to fit popular tunes.

    Later, generally, the words predated the tunes, as in the case of both hymns we've had so far, and the tunes were actually written to fit them.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    NEW Details of the sustainable symbolic floral wreath on the #Queen’s coffin, selected at the #King’s request from the gardens at Buckingham Palace, Clarence House and Highgrove, including some of #QueenElizabethII’s favourite blooms https://twitter.com/RoyaNikkhah/status/1571798383366488064/photo/1
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    edited September 2022
    Roger said:

    If you’re watching the BBC I’d suggest trying ITV - very little commentary.

    The BBC mercifully has none at all.
    It’s stopped has it? Before it was cutting back and forth to talking heads with Huw Edwards saying “Commonwealth leaders are arriving at the Abbey” while ITV was actually showing them.

    Nice touch, English hymn with Scottish melody.

    As was remarked at the Jubilee, with the late Queen’s attention to detail, nothing happens by chance.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    ydoethur said:

    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    This may literally be true, but it often feels like most hymns were not designed to be sung to the tunes they are connected with.

    I was thinking exactly the same thing! The tunes of hynns are something Christianity hasn't really got right. I understand the principle of communal singing engensering togetherness, but it has to be a tune which is a) easy and b) enjoyable to sing. Otherwise everyone is just grimly lookinh forward to the end of it.
    In the case of Wesley, the words were written to fit popular tunes.

    Later, generally, the words predated the tunes, as in the case of both hymns we've had so far, and the tunes were actually written to fit them.
    Not always simply it has to be said - some complicated notes for each word sometimes.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    dixiedean said:

    SeanT said:

    This sublime music is bringing me close to tears. Or it might be the English fizz

    The Queen is departing the world: with predictably impeccable taste

    Jesus actual Sean is back
    He is risen!
    Alleluia!
    A seminal day indeed.
  • https://twitter.com/theipaper/status/1571808487834787840

    The Palace reportedly asked the Prince and Princess of Wales to consider bringing Prince George because of the message it sends to the public, as he is the future king

    William and Kate are understood to have thought “very carefully” about how much to involve their children

    Lovely, using a child for PR opportunities.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,803

    That was horrendously spoken lol

    I thought you didn't care about this?

    I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying hearing Liz Truss speak. A voice I can recognise. Much more relatable - to me - than any of her predecessors.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,931
    ydoethur said:

    Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.

    Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Farooq said:

    END THE MONARCHY

    Can we have the coronation first at least, just so we can say we saw one?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    Was that a dig at Vlad!?
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    "From a song by Vera Lynn." Never knew that. This isn't bloody Popmaster, mate.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    https://twitter.com/theipaper/status/1571808487834787840

    The Palace reportedly asked the Prince and Princess of Wales to consider bringing Prince George because of the message it sends to the public, as he is the future king

    William and Kate are understood to have thought “very carefully” about how much to involve their children

    Lovely, using a child for PR opportunities.

    Children never go to funerals of course.
  • SeanT said:

    This sublime music is bringing me close to tears. Or it might be the English fizz

    The Queen is departing the world: with predictably impeccable taste

    Hello. You must be new here. Welcome.
  • Driver said:

    You're a moderator are you? Funny how you're in favour of cancel culture when it suits you.

    You enjoy the funeral, I can post what I like assuming the moderation team is okay with it.
    You can, and the rest of us can judge you for it.

    You mention the moderation team, but why are you number 3?
    I am not a number. I am a free man!
  • Cookie said:

    That was horrendously spoken lol

    I thought you didn't care about this?

    I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying hearing Liz Truss speak. A voice I can recognise. Much more relatable - to me - than any of her predecessors.
    I don't care, I'm totally ambivalent about the Royal Family and the Monarchy in general. I have no interest in seeing them removed or replaced as it won't actually do anything.

    But I am perfectly entitled to comment on stuff that's going on, however much other people are trying to say I can't or shouldn't.

    It's a very sad event clearly and I am sorry for the loss of the Queen - but it doesn't mean I have to not comment
  • Jonathan said:

    Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.

    Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
    GPS jamming? So if you opened Google Maps it wouldn't know where you are?

    How does that work, isn't your phone looking for a satellite in the sky? Fascinating.
    Various ways it can be done. They test it every so often; I've had GPS go squiffy on me whilst walking near the Norfolk ranges.

    There are a multitude of ways it can be done; either via the satellites themselves (though that requires the US to do it), but with GLOSNASS, GALLILEO and the other GNSS systems that's not really a workable approach any more.

    The most 'obvious' technique is to broadcast other signals that interfere with, or even spoof, the very weak signals coming from the satellites. (Spoofing means that it could persuade you that you are a long way from where you actually are, rather than just drowning out the signals).

    All cool stuff, really. The maths behind it is apparently fascinating (and way above my pay grade).
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397

    ydoethur said:

    Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.

    Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
    All too easily.

    On a different subject, the wreath is a very beautiful piece of work and tastefully done. Respect to everyone involved.
  • IshmaelZ said:

    This is trough Welby: mogadon man on mogadon stuff.

    I enjoyed the two footed tackle on his fellow Etonian in the middle of it though. Very nicely done.
  • kle4 said:

    Farooq said:

    END THE MONARCHY

    Can we have the coronation first at least, just so we can say we saw one?
    But it needs a recipe to at least match coronation chicken, or its the last one.
  • ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.

    Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
    All too easily.

    On a different subject, the wreath is a very beautiful piece of work and tastefully done. Respect to everyone involved.
    It is absolutely glorious isn't it.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    This anthem, which was written by the Atheist and Darwinist Hubert Parry, was one of his 'Songs of Farewell' to commemorate six of his pupils who died in the First World War. They were among his last works as he died in 1918.

    Instructive that he chose religious texts despite his intense dislike of religion, but quite staggering to think it was about 10 years before the Queen was born and is now well over 100 years old.
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549

    SeanT said:

    This sublime music is bringing me close to tears. Or it might be the English fizz

    The Queen is departing the world: with predictably impeccable taste

    Hello. You must be new here. Welcome.
    I have come amongst you; but verily, I shall not tarry
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    kle4 said:

    Farooq said:

    END THE MONARCHY

    Can we have the coronation first at least, just so we can say we saw one?
    But it needs a recipe to at least match coronation chicken, or its the last one.
    Coronation Rice Krispie squares
  • SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    This sublime music is bringing me close to tears. Or it might be the English fizz

    The Queen is departing the world: with predictably impeccable taste

    Hello. You must be new here. Welcome.
    I have come amongst you; but verily, I shall not tarry
    Have you had more accounts than me?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,840
    Farooq said:

    kle4 said:

    Farooq said:

    END THE MONARCHY

    Can we have the coronation first at least, just so we can say we saw one?
    Should we also have a communist dictatorship first, just so we can say we had seen one of those, too? My vote is no, no thanks.
    Don't forget the Welsh one for the younger one.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Farooq said:

    kle4 said:

    Farooq said:

    END THE MONARCHY

    Can we have the coronation first at least, just so we can say we saw one?
    Should we also have a communist dictatorship first, just so we can say we had seen one of those, too? My vote is no, no thanks.
    Yes, an extravagant one off ceremony is totally the same thing as a dictatorship, I can see that now.
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    kle4 said:

    https://twitter.com/theipaper/status/1571808487834787840

    The Palace reportedly asked the Prince and Princess of Wales to consider bringing Prince George because of the message it sends to the public, as he is the future king

    William and Kate are understood to have thought “very carefully” about how much to involve their children

    Lovely, using a child for PR opportunities.

    Children never go to funerals of course.
    Parents always think carefully about it before deciding.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,931
    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    This may literally be true, but it often feels like most hymns were not designed to be sung to the tunes they are connected with.

    I was thinking exactly the same thing! The tunes of hynns are something Christianity hasn't really got right. I understand the principle of communal singing engensering togetherness, but it has to be a tune which is a) easy and b) enjoyable to sing. Otherwise everyone is just grimly lookinh forward to the end of it.
    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    This may literally be true, but it often feels like most hymns were not designed to be sung to the tunes they are connected with.

    I was thinking exactly the same thing! The tunes of hynns are something Christianity hasn't really got right. I understand the principle of communal singing engensering togetherness, but it has to be a tune which is a) easy and b) enjoyable to sing. Otherwise everyone is just grimly lookinh forward to the end of it.
    In the case of Wesley, the words were written to fit popular tunes.

    Later, generally, the words predated the tunes, as in the case of both hymns we've had so far, and the tunes were actually written to fit them.
    Not always simply it has to be said - some complicated notes for each word sometimes.
    IMHO Wesley hymns have never been surpassed.
  • The central equations that govern our modern world:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    edited September 2022

    Cookie said:

    That was horrendously spoken lol

    I thought you didn't care about this?

    I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying hearing Liz Truss speak. A voice I can recognise. Much more relatable - to me - than any of her predecessors.
    I don't care, I'm totally ambivalent about the Royal Family and the Monarchy in general. I have no interest in seeing them removed or replaced as it won't actually do anything.

    But I am perfectly entitled to comment on stuff that's going on, however much other people are trying to say I can't or shouldn't.

    It's a very sad event clearly and I am sorry for the loss of the Queen - but it doesn't mean I have to not comment
    But which scenario is more boring:

    1. A boring thing happens

    2. A boring thing happens AND CHB says

    This is boring
    I find this boring
    Boring, this is
    6 letters, also means drilling through earth
    BORING

    every 10th post in every thread?
  • dixiedean said:

    SeanT said:

    This sublime music is bringing me close to tears. Or it might be the English fizz

    The Queen is departing the world: with predictably impeccable taste

    Jesus actual Sean is back
    He is risen!
    Alleluia!
    I need to poke my finger in his wound, just to be sure.
  • Andy_CookeAndy_Cooke Posts: 5,001

    Jonathan said:

    Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.

    Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
    https://notaminfo.com/explain?id=1855710 For the first.

    https://notaminfo.com/explain?id=1855123 , https://notaminfo.com/explain?id=1852795 , https://notaminfo.com/explain?id=1852300 for the second.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    IshmaelZ said:

    This is trough Welby: mogadon man on mogadon stuff.

    I enjoyed the two footed tackle on his fellow Etonian in the middle of it though. Very nicely done.
    I must have nodded off, how did that work?
  • IshmaelZ said:



    Cookie said:

    That was horrendously spoken lol

    I thought you didn't care about this?

    I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying hearing Liz Truss speak. A voice I can recognise. Much more relatable - to me - than any of her predecessors.
    I don't care, I'm totally ambivalent about the Royal Family and the Monarchy in general. I have no interest in seeing them removed or replaced as it won't actually do anything.

    But I am perfectly entitled to comment on stuff that's going on, however much other people are trying to say I can't or shouldn't.

    It's a very sad event clearly and I am sorry for the loss of the Queen - but it doesn't mean I have to not comment
    But which scenario is more boring:

    1. A boring thing happens

    2. A boring thing happens AND CHB says

    This is boring
    I find this boring
    Boring, this is
    6 letters, also means drilling through earth
    BORING

    every 10th post in every thread?
    You can just scroll past mate.

    The hymns are pretty good tbf
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    IshmaelZ said:



    Cookie said:

    That was horrendously spoken lol

    I thought you didn't care about this?

    I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying hearing Liz Truss speak. A voice I can recognise. Much more relatable - to me - than any of her predecessors.
    I don't care, I'm totally ambivalent about the Royal Family and the Monarchy in general. I have no interest in seeing them removed or replaced as it won't actually do anything.

    But I am perfectly entitled to comment on stuff that's going on, however much other people are trying to say I can't or shouldn't.

    It's a very sad event clearly and I am sorry for the loss of the Queen - but it doesn't mean I have to not comment
    But which scenario is more boring:

    1. A boring thing happens

    2. A boring thing happens AND CHB says

    This is boring
    I find this boring
    Boring, this is
    6 letters, also means drilling through earth
    BORING

    every 10th post in every thread?
    You can just scroll past mate.

    The hymns are pretty good tbf
    You are so bored of the service, you are watching it.
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.

    Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
    All too easily.

    On a different subject, the wreath is a very beautiful piece of work and tastefully done. Respect to everyone involved.
    It is absolutely glorious isn't it.

    It’s all glorious. This is why you have funerals. And, ideally, why you have beautiful funerals in Gothic abbeys with fluting English choirs: the beauty heals

  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,931

    Driver said:

    You're a moderator are you? Funny how you're in favour of cancel culture when it suits you.

    You enjoy the funeral, I can post what I like assuming the moderation team is okay with it.
    You can, and the rest of us can judge you for it.

    You mention the moderation team, but why are you number 3?
    I am not a number. I am a free man!
    Three above Patrick McGoohan. That’s impressive!
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,310
    Eabhal said:

    At The King's request, the wreath contains foliage of Rosemary, English Oak and Myrtle (cut from a plant grown from Myrtle in The Queen's wedding bouquet) and flowers, in shades of gold, pink and deep burgundy, with touches of white, cut from the gardens of Royal Residences.

    https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/status/1571805807196655617

    The wreath is really beautiful. For me it's the star of the funeral so far.
    Reminds me of the bright colours the Queen always wore
    It is stunning.

    Although I'm an atheist I went to an Anglican school and was part of the Chapel Choir, as I loved singing.

    Still love the sound of hymns. There's something special and moving about it I can really respect even as atheist.

    So do I. My son was in the school choir and still loves the hymns he learnt.

    Communal singing is special.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,840
    IshmaelZ said:



    Cookie said:

    That was horrendously spoken lol

    I thought you didn't care about this?

    I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying hearing Liz Truss speak. A voice I can recognise. Much more relatable - to me - than any of her predecessors.
    I don't care, I'm totally ambivalent about the Royal Family and the Monarchy in general. I have no interest in seeing them removed or replaced as it won't actually do anything.

    But I am perfectly entitled to comment on stuff that's going on, however much other people are trying to say I can't or shouldn't.

    It's a very sad event clearly and I am sorry for the loss of the Queen - but it doesn't mean I have to not comment
    But which scenario is more boring:

    1. A boring thing happens

    2. A boring thing happens AND CHB says

    This is boring
    I find this boring
    Boring, this is
    6 letters, also means drilling through earth
    BORING

    every 10th post in every thread?
    I don't know. It's very helpful in making up my mind.
  • Andy_CookeAndy_Cooke Posts: 5,001

    Jonathan said:

    Is the airspace over London closed today? The security implications of today are mind boggling.

    Just looked - there is a NOTAM closing off airspace for the funeral. Plus another one warning that GPS jamming may be in use in the same area, so UAVs will have issues.
    GPS jamming? So if you opened Google Maps it wouldn't know where you are?

    How does that work, isn't your phone looking for a satellite in the sky? Fascinating.
    Transmit a radio signal strongly on the same frequency and drown out the signal from the satellite, or spoof it if you have the right codes.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    dixiedean said:

    SeanT said:

    This sublime music is bringing me close to tears. Or it might be the English fizz

    The Queen is departing the world: with predictably impeccable taste

    Jesus actual Sean is back
    He is risen!
    Alleluia!
    I need to poke my finger in his wound, just to be sure.
    Fan to James Joyce: May I kiss the hand that wrote Ulysses?

    JJ: Certainly not, it did a lot of other things.
  • IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:



    Cookie said:

    That was horrendously spoken lol

    I thought you didn't care about this?

    I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying hearing Liz Truss speak. A voice I can recognise. Much more relatable - to me - than any of her predecessors.
    I don't care, I'm totally ambivalent about the Royal Family and the Monarchy in general. I have no interest in seeing them removed or replaced as it won't actually do anything.

    But I am perfectly entitled to comment on stuff that's going on, however much other people are trying to say I can't or shouldn't.

    It's a very sad event clearly and I am sorry for the loss of the Queen - but it doesn't mean I have to not comment
    But which scenario is more boring:

    1. A boring thing happens

    2. A boring thing happens AND CHB says

    This is boring
    I find this boring
    Boring, this is
    6 letters, also means drilling through earth
    BORING

    every 10th post in every thread?
    You can just scroll past mate.

    The hymns are pretty good tbf
    You are so bored of the service, you are watching it.
    Never said I was bored of the service.

    I don't think I ever said I was bored at all, it's gone on far too long the whole thing and it's over the top but people can like or be part of what they want.

    What I don't like is posters here - not you - telling me that I can't post stuff on a political site, about politics!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    edited September 2022
    This ceremony has got a bit of the Anglican All Stars about it.
    Protestant first XI
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,431

    ydoethur said:

    Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.

    Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
    With his ill-fitting suit and scruffy hair.
  • IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    This is trough Welby: mogadon man on mogadon stuff.

    I enjoyed the two footed tackle on his fellow Etonian in the middle of it though. Very nicely done.
    I must have nodded off, how did that work?
    An attack on those who "cling to power" - maybe he had no one specific in mind but it certainly put a particular recent example of that in my mind.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    This is trough Welby: mogadon man on mogadon stuff.

    I enjoyed the two footed tackle on his fellow Etonian in the middle of it though. Very nicely done.
    I must have nodded off, how did that work?
    He said a benevolent, modest supreme ruler is better than a ghastly one who imposes themselves.

    I thought it was a dig at Vlad.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,459
    This is all a bit too christian for me
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,803
    Perfect funereal weather here. Grey and drizzly has suddenly given way to sparkly and bright. Hopefully something similar in Westminster this afternoon.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby: “Those who serve will be loved and remembered longer than those who cling to power and privilege are long forgotten”.
    https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1571811379702546434
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,664

    This ceremony has got a bit of the Anglican All Stars about it.
    Protestant first XI

    That would be an ecumenical matter.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Farooq said:

    kle4 said:

    Farooq said:

    kle4 said:

    Farooq said:

    END THE MONARCHY

    Can we have the coronation first at least, just so we can say we saw one?
    Should we also have a communist dictatorship first, just so we can say we had seen one of those, too? My vote is no, no thanks.
    Yes, an extravagant one off ceremony is totally the same thing as a dictatorship, I can see that now.
    Your FOMO is making you read things that aren't there.
    A coronation is stupid. You don't need to see one to know that.
    And perhaps you need to lighten up (and as you've done so before, don't pretend that is being told you cannot say something so you can play a martyr) and not take what was already clearly a joke so seriously. I would not mind if we forwent coronations, we have other ceremonials.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    Jonathan said:

    This ceremony has got a bit of the Anglican All Stars about it.
    Protestant first XI

    That would be an ecumenical matter.
    It has Jack to do with that.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Scott_xP said:

    Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby: “Those who serve will be loved and remembered longer than those who cling to power and privilege are long forgotten”.
    https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1571811379702546434

    Ah

    were they contemp at Eton? Is this payback for blackballing him from Pop?
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,156
    edited September 2022

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    This is trough Welby: mogadon man on mogadon stuff.

    I enjoyed the two footed tackle on his fellow Etonian in the middle of it though. Very nicely done.
    I must have nodded off, how did that work?
    An attack on those who "cling to power" - maybe he had no one specific in mind but it certainly put a particular recent example of that in my mind.
    Two such people, in fact. A huge American audience for this too that there will be later today, despite most of them still being asleep for the moment.
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549
    This is when we need a bit of Boris. Leaven the liturgy with a joke
  • Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby: “Those who serve will be loved and remembered longer than those who cling to power and privilege are long forgotten”.

    https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1571811379702546434
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    It's very, very religious for a quite not religious country. All this shall be received into the grace and glory of the lord and entry into his kingdom, lord this, lord that, I mean I know it has to happen but I would have thought it won't do a huge amount to help the relevance of a modern monarchy.
  • SeanT said:

    This is when we need a bit of Boris. Leaven the liturgy with a joke

    He's not going to shag you mate
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    edited September 2022

    This is all a bit too christian for me

    Not christian enough, I cannot tell which denomination is meant to be the correct one.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,568
    SeanT said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.

    Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
    All too easily.

    On a different subject, the wreath is a very beautiful piece of work and tastefully done. Respect to everyone involved.
    It is absolutely glorious isn't it.

    It’s all glorious. This is why you have funerals. And, ideally, why you have beautiful funerals in Gothic abbeys with fluting English choirs: the beauty heals

    Remarkable how many of the people in high authority are now women. Such a change over the course of Her Majesty's reign.
  • That's a good question: what does a modern Monarchy look like?

    Do other countries do it better? I am afraid I don't know
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    edited September 2022
    I am hoping for Roger Whittaker's The Final Farewell.

    But Blaenwern will do.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Communal singing is a glorious thing, be it a hymn or a football chant.

    Communal speaking always sounds like the Borg.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    kle4 said:

    This is all a bit too christian for me

    Not christian enough, I cannot rell which denomination is meant to be the correct one.
    Two weeks at camp with Ian Paisley Snr will learn you
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    Ah, good, a Welsh tune now, even if it's an English hymn.

    May be heretical but I do actually prefer Hyfrydol to Blaenwern.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,670
    ...
    TOPPING said:

    It's very, very religious for a quite not religious country. All this shall be received into the grace and glory of the lord and entry into his kingdom, lord this, lord that, I mean I know it has to happen but I would have thought it won't do a huge amount to help the relevance of a modern monarchy.

    At the end of the day this is Elizabeth II's funeral, and she was deeply Christian, by all accounts.

    The Coronation will be more interesting.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397

    SeanT said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Your reminder this could have been Boris Johnson if the queen had died 72 hours earlier.

    Can you imagine him losing his place in the middle of the reading and waffling on about Peppa Pig instead?
    All too easily.

    On a different subject, the wreath is a very beautiful piece of work and tastefully done. Respect to everyone involved.
    It is absolutely glorious isn't it.

    It’s all glorious. This is why you have funerals. And, ideally, why you have beautiful funerals in Gothic abbeys with fluting English choirs: the beauty heals

    Remarkable how many of the people in high authority are now women. Such a change over the course of Her Majesty's reign.
    Although there is only one living queen regnant.
  • Farooq said:

    That's a good question: what does a modern Monarchy look like?

    Do other countries do it better? I am afraid I don't know

    Turning over some of their estates to aid the homeless. It has been known to happen.
    One of Jezza's more moronic policies
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    That's a good question: what does a modern Monarchy look like?

    Do other countries do it better? I am afraid I don't know

    Scandanavia? A little less formal, but similar in style and function otherwise?
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