fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
The Lakes say hi. Likewise the Cotswolds the marches the dales the West Country the Thames valley Northumbria and Cornwall
What are the Telegraph’s criteria for beauty? How the fuck do you end up with Canada 3rd?
The only thing I can think of is “vast impressive tracts of ice and snow that almost no one wants to visit” but in that case Greenland should be in the top 3 because it is all of that and more magnificent
Nah they've got this one - the Rockies are stupendously fabulous, fantastic, majestic, awesome.
I remember going in short order from the Candadian Rockies to Mull. Very interesting contrast. The Rockies are enormous, vast in scale, very overwhelming; Mull, meanwhile was in comparison no less awesome but you realised on a much more restrained level, much more understated.
Such a list, that said, is ridiculous.
I’ve seen the rockies. Several times. The alps in all their manifestations are infinitely more beautiful - nothing in Canada matches the dolomites, for example
Plus at the foot of the Dolomites you get utterly exquisite towns with gorgeous medieval castles. To put it politely this is not the case in Canada
The rockies are quite meh
I've never seen the Rockies, but the Dolomites are certainly stunning. I have skied the Sella Ronda a few times and the views are excellent and as you say the towns are nice as well. I do struggle with Oompha bands and Austrian food in Italy though.
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
It's amazing how impactful a chip on the shoulder is.
I mean, really, every part of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are more beautiful than any part of England? As that appears to be the implication.
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
Yoon is term used for Unionists by Indy supporters. The opposite is probably "Nat".
Comes from loon I reckon, which means a younger person where I'm from but I think an idiot/fool elsewhere in Scotland?
Nah, not just the Doric but more generally. Orra loon round here = young chap who does the odd jobs, as on a farm.
Loony is a different word altogether, mainly down south across the border.
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
Yoon is term used for Unionists by Indy supporters. The opposite is probably "Nat".
Comes from loon I reckon, which means a younger person where I'm from but I think an idiot/fool elsewhere in Scotland?
I hadn't realised you were from the north east (the proper one)?
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
It's amazing how impactful a chip on the shoulder is.
I mean, really, every part of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are more beautiful than any part of England? As that appears to be the implication.
I think on average Scotland is the most beautiful - a huge proportion is Hebrides, North-west Highlands, Cairngorms, and particularly our giant coastline.
The US fails on this measure as so much of it is flat and boring.
PM - Liz Chancellor - Maybe an outsider like Mark Harper but he may not be willing to upend the apple cart as this nation clearly needs FS - Tom Tughendhat HS - Priti Patel (I know, yet she's consistently not fucked up the job, which I think is an achievement and it balances TT at FS) Defence - Wallace Education and Culture - Kemi Health - Rishi BIES - Gove Transport - rolled into BIES Culture - disbanded, rolled into education, internet and TV given to BIES AG - Cox Justice - Keep Raab in place Levelling up - Kwasi
It puts the bean counters in the right areas and the reformers in the right areas. The NHS desperately needs a bean counter like Rishi to come in and cut costs.
What are the Telegraph’s criteria for beauty? How the fuck do you end up with Canada 3rd?
The only thing I can think of is “vast impressive tracts of ice and snow that almost no one wants to visit” but in that case Greenland should be in the top 3 because it is all of that and more magnificent
Nah they've got this one - the Rockies are stupendously fabulous, fantastic, majestic, awesome.
I remember going in short order from the Candadian Rockies to Mull. Very interesting contrast. The Rockies are enormous, vast in scale, very overwhelming; Mull, meanwhile was in comparison no less awesome but you realised on a much more restrained level, much more understated.
Such a list, that said, is ridiculous.
I’ve seen the rockies. Several times. The alps in all their manifestations are infinitely more beautiful - nothing in Canada matches the dolomites, for example
Plus at the foot of the Dolomites you get utterly exquisite towns with gorgeous medieval castles. To put it politely this is not the case in Canada
The rockies are quite meh
Nah - you're wrong on this. The rockies are breathtaking. I certainly look out over the alps and think that's nice but the rockies are on a different scale.
As for the towns, that is another reason why the list is bonkers. Are we talking Broadway, Worcestershire or Hartlepool - what's included here? You would have to assign a value to every element of a country, add it up and give it a final score. It is not even like a 10 best films or mini-series so absurd is the idea.
No, I’m right. And I’ve travelled much much more then you so you must yield. I am simply right. Sorry
With last week's rail trips north and west of Inverness, plus Barking Riverside this week, I've done the entire Great British "National Rail" network. All of it!
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
It's amazing how impactful a chip on the shoulder is.
I mean, really, every part of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are more beautiful than any part of England? As that appears to be the implication.
@StuartDickson seems to be an absolutely pure example of Anglophobia. Pathologically acute. He specifically hates and fears England and the English, to the extent the probably spits at people if they are two yards across the border in Berwick
I am guessing that as a young man he was probably pegged, quite violently, by a Yorkshirewoman, in an English pub; in Helsinki
What are the Telegraph’s criteria for beauty? How the fuck do you end up with Canada 3rd?
The only thing I can think of is “vast impressive tracts of ice and snow that almost no one wants to visit” but in that case Greenland should be in the top 3 because it is all of that and more magnificent
Nah they've got this one - the Rockies are stupendously fabulous, fantastic, majestic, awesome.
I remember going in short order from the Candadian Rockies to Mull. Very interesting contrast. The Rockies are enormous, vast in scale, very overwhelming; Mull, meanwhile was in comparison no less awesome but you realised on a much more restrained level, much more understated.
Such a list, that said, is ridiculous.
I’ve seen the rockies. Several times. The alps in all their manifestations are infinitely more beautiful - nothing in Canada matches the dolomites, for example
Plus at the foot of the Dolomites you get utterly exquisite towns with gorgeous medieval castles. To put it politely this is not the case in Canada
The rockies are quite meh
I've never seen the Rockies, but the Dolomites are certainly stunning. I have skied the Sella Ronda a few times and the views are excellent and as you say the towns are nice as well. I do struggle with Oompha bands and Austrian food in Italy though.
Sierra Nevada ain't bad. I want to do Canada but don't want to be eaten by a bear.
If anyone can find something that matches that in - lol - the rockies - then good luck. The rockies are nice big mountains and there are great views but they won’t have that lovely little medieval hamlet at the bottom, will they? With the church? And the tiny tavern selling cold Cimbrian beer and excellent smoked ham. And that’s what makes the heart sing at the beauty. This is why 5 trillion people want to go to Italy and about 2 people mistakenly wander into Canada once a decade
This is an unfair test really - almost any country in Europe will be more beautiful than almost any country outside Europe because of the accumulation of culture on top of the natural beauty
One picture of the dolomites and below it a log cabin hosting a reunion of the Mussolini Appreciation Society does not a country beautiful make.
Where is Frank Lloyd Wright, Corbusier, Nash or Palladio when you need them.
What an absurd line to take; the log cabins make this the most beautiful place on earth. LOL genuinely.
PM - Liz Chancellor - Maybe an outsider like Mark Harper but he may not be willing to upend the apple cart as this nation clearly needs FS - Tom Tughendhat HS - Priti Patel (I know, yet she's consistently not fucked up the job, which I think is an achievement and it balances TT at FS) Defence - Wallace Education and Culture - Kemi Health - Rishi BIES - Gove Transport - rolled into BIES Culture - disbanded, rolled into education, internet and TV given to BIES AG - Cox Justice - Keep Raab in place Levelling up - Kwasi
It puts the bean counters in the right areas and the reformers in the right areas. The NHS desperately needs a bean counter like Rishi to come in and cut costs.
The penalties for the unlawful or accidental removal, defacing, alteration, or destruction of Federal records or the attempt to do so, include a fine, imprisonment, or both (18 U.S.C. 641 and 2071). https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/36/1230.12
Rebekah Vardy nods in weary resignation. 'Guys, this ain't going to end well for you either...'
No one's suggesting locking her up, are they ?
What's the maximum sentence for destroying evidence?
I would guess this would be perjury, as in, they lied to the judge about what had happened, which is up to five years.
A big difference in balance of probabilities for a criminal trial applies surely?
Which is why I don't think it will happen.
However, circumstantial evidence can be considered putting things beyond reasonable doubt in default of other evidence if there is enough of it. And since that wasn't the only piece of evidence that mysteriously vanished with a patently untrue story to cover its absence, if the DPP were feeling vindictive she might be prosecuted.
Courts are massively clogged up and the DPP are underfunded, surely the lesson here is not to prosecute Vardy but to not start expensive court cases you won't win. That should apply to the DPP too.
Oh, I don't think there's much doubt they would win.
Whether it's worth it is a very different question. Seriously, what more punishment could they give her than a £3 million fine, being branded a liar, accused of selling out all her friends, damaging her husband's career, and destroying her own potential for future earnings?
And the satisfaction of knowing that's entirely her own fault?
There are times when people who lie to courts should be prosecuted. E.g. Lord Browne should have been. This does not appear to me to be one of them.
I disagree that a prosecution would be successful.
It isn't uncommon at all in civil litigation for a judge to say he/she didn't believe a witness' evidence. Indeed, a judge often has no choice - accounts contradict each other, and it can't simply be poor memories. It simply doesn't follow that there's a good prospect of proving *beyond reasonable doubt* that the person lied. The reason these cases rarely come forward is not simply that losing is punishment enough but that prospects of conviction are low.
Archer was of course successfully prosecuted, but his was a really clear case of perverting the course of justive by falsifying diaries and so on.
It is tough, as you say, but it is hard as laypeople to see how it is not practically at that level. Some of the justifications and explanations were so preposterous it comes across as the typical blatant contempt of the rich and powerful, where they can say something no matter how dumb or obviously false and face no consequence, facing the reality of a court which does not have to toady to them.
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
Yoon is term used for Unionists by Indy supporters. The opposite is probably "Nat".
Comes from loon I reckon, which means a younger person where I'm from but I think an idiot/fool elsewhere in Scotland?
Scott Skinner's made anither tune, The very dirl o't reached the moon, Till ilka lassie an' her loon Commenced the dance fu' frisky, O! The burden o' the sang was this-- "we never felt sic Lunar bliss; Anither reel, an' syne a kiss, Ower gude Glenlivet Whisky, O!"
What are the Telegraph’s criteria for beauty? How the fuck do you end up with Canada 3rd?
The only thing I can think of is “vast impressive tracts of ice and snow that almost no one wants to visit” but in that case Greenland should be in the top 3 because it is all of that and more magnificent
Nah they've got this one - the Rockies are stupendously fabulous, fantastic, majestic, awesome.
I remember going in short order from the Candadian Rockies to Mull. Very interesting contrast. The Rockies are enormous, vast in scale, very overwhelming; Mull, meanwhile was in comparison no less awesome but you realised on a much more restrained level, much more understated.
Such a list, that said, is ridiculous.
I’ve seen the rockies. Several times. The alps in all their manifestations are infinitely more beautiful - nothing in Canada matches the dolomites, for example
Plus at the foot of the Dolomites you get utterly exquisite towns with gorgeous medieval castles. To put it politely this is not the case in Canada
The rockies are quite meh
Nah - you're wrong on this. The rockies are breathtaking. I certainly look out over the alps and think that's nice but the rockies are on a different scale.
As for the towns, that is another reason why the list is bonkers. Are we talking Broadway, Worcestershire or Hartlepool - what's included here? You would have to assign a value to every element of a country, add it up and give it a final score. It is not even like a 10 best films or mini-series so absurd is the idea.
No, I’m right. And I’ve travelled much much more then you so you must yield. I am simply right. Sorry
With last week's rail trips north and west of Inverness, plus Barking Riverside this week, I've done the entire Great British "National Rail" network. All of it!
What have YOU done, Leon?
You've done nothing!
[shrieking] NOTHING!!
I was going to ask if you remembered the Vale of Rheidol but that isn't part of BR any more in any sense is it??
The court says the loss of the WhatsApp messages between Vardy and her agent was "deliberate rather than accidental". Essentially the judge did not accept that a mobile phone accidentally fell over the side of a boat in the North Sea shortly after a request was made to search it.
Journalists note Rooney was not successful on her public interest defence, partly because she didn't go to Vardy for comment before publishing her accusation. That said, it's quite hard to explain exactly how damning this judgment is of Vardy. And she'll pick up the bill for it.
Judge concludes Vardy's agent probably leaked the stories to the Sun. But Vardy "knew of and condoned this" and would provide "screenshots of Rooney’s posts, drawing attention to items of potential interest to the press, and answering additional queries raised by the press".
PM - Liz Chancellor - Maybe an outsider like Mark Harper but he may not be willing to upend the apple cart as this nation clearly needs FS - Tom Tughendhat HS - Priti Patel (I know, yet she's consistently not fucked up the job, which I think is an achievement and it balances TT at FS) Defence - Wallace Education and Culture - Kemi Health - Rishi BIES - Gove Transport - rolled into BIES Culture - disbanded, rolled into education, internet and TV given to BIES AG - Cox Justice - Keep Raab in place Levelling up - Kwasi
It puts the bean counters in the right areas and the reformers in the right areas. The NHS desperately needs a bean counter like Rishi to come in and cut costs.
Scotland, Wales and N Ireland?
Limited options so always a high chance of no change.
PM - Liz Chancellor - Maybe an outsider like Mark Harper but he may not be willing to upend the apple cart as this nation clearly needs FS - Tom Tughendhat HS - Priti Patel (I know, yet she's consistently not fucked up the job, which I think is an achievement and it balances TT at FS) Defence - Wallace Education and Culture - Kemi Health - Rishi BIES - Gove Transport - rolled into BIES Culture - disbanded, rolled into education, internet and TV given to BIES AG - Cox Justice - Keep Raab in place Levelling up - Kwasi
It puts the bean counters in the right areas and the reformers in the right areas. The NHS desperately needs a bean counter like Rishi to come in and cut costs.
Not enough rewarding of her allies I suspect.
But given how much politicians bang on about the NHS it's harder to claim being offered Health would be an insult.
PM - Liz Chancellor - Maybe an outsider like Mark Harper but he may not be willing to upend the apple cart as this nation clearly needs FS - Tom Tughendhat HS - Priti Patel (I know, yet she's consistently not fucked up the job, which I think is an achievement and it balances TT at FS) Defence - Wallace Education and Culture - Kemi Health - Rishi BIES - Gove Transport - rolled into BIES Culture - disbanded, rolled into education, internet and TV given to BIES AG - Cox Justice - Keep Raab in place Levelling up - Kwasi
It puts the bean counters in the right areas and the reformers in the right areas. The NHS desperately needs a bean counter like Rishi to come in and cut costs.
Scotland, Wales and N Ireland?
Limited options so always a high chance of no change.
If anyone can find something that matches that in - lol - the rockies - then good luck. The rockies are nice big mountains and there are great views but they won’t have that lovely little medieval hamlet at the bottom, will they? With the church? And the tiny tavern selling cold Cimbrian beer and excellent smoked ham. And that’s what makes the heart sing at the beauty. This is why 5 trillion people want to go to Italy and about 2 people mistakenly wander into Canada once a decade
This is an unfair test really - almost any country in Europe will be more beautiful than almost any country outside Europe because of the accumulation of culture on top of the natural beauty
One picture of the dolomites and below it a log cabin hosting a reunion of the Mussolini Appreciation Society does not a country beautiful make.
Where is Frank Lloyd Wright, Corbusier, Nash or Palladio when you need them.
What an absurd line to take; the log cabins make this the most beautiful place on earth. LOL genuinely.
Lol @ “lol genuinely”
Go on then. Find a photo of the Rockies that matches that one of the Dolomites. I’m guessing you’ll go for that famous view of the green lake. But it won’t have that enchanting medieval village
Meanwhile I shall prepare a photo of the Italian lakes
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
It's amazing how impactful a chip on the shoulder is.
I mean, really, every part of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are more beautiful than any part of England? As that appears to be the implication.
I think on average Scotland is the most beautiful - a huge proportion is Hebrides, North-west Highlands, Cairngorms, and particularly our giant coastline.
The US fails on this measure as so much of it is flat and boring.
It does have some stunning parts though, I'd like to visit Utah before I shuffle off
If anyone can find something that matches that in - lol - the rockies - then good luck. The rockies are nice big mountains and there are great views but they won’t have that lovely little medieval hamlet at the bottom, will they? With the church? And the tiny tavern selling cold Cimbrian beer and excellent smoked ham. And that’s what makes the heart sing at the beauty. This is why 5 trillion people want to go to Italy and about 2 people mistakenly wander into Canada once a decade
This is an unfair test really - almost any country in Europe will be more beautiful than almost any country outside Europe because of the accumulation of culture on top of the natural beauty
Germany has some pretty parts - here's Schliersee in Bavaria.
The red roofing, green foothills and blue lake are a pleasing combination here I think.
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
It's amazing how impactful a chip on the shoulder is.
I mean, really, every part of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are more beautiful than any part of England? As that appears to be the implication.
I think on average Scotland is the most beautiful - a huge proportion is Hebrides, North-west Highlands, Cairngorms, and particularly our giant coastline.
The US fails on this measure as so much of it is flat and boring.
I knew someone who hated Wiltshire as they said it was too flat. Elevations do add drama and character.
Well if they don’t like the decision, they need to get out and vote!
US turnout is abysmal in mid-terms anyway, you shouldn’t complain about the government if you didn’t exercise your right to vote.
At this rate, Republicans take the House and the Senate in November, and Biden is a totally lame duck for two years.
On state Senate polls in key races the Democrats will hold the Senate even if the GOP take the House
If you look at 538's all-in polling averages in the Presidential in the run up to November 2020, July 2020 may not be necessarily a good indicator of the final result three months later.
EG July 2020 538 had
Wisconsin......Biden by 8 Michigan.......Biden by 8 Florida..........Biden by 3 (!) Ohio.............almost dead heat (!) Arizona.........Biden by 4 Texas............Biden by 1 (!).
Biden won 3 out of 5 of those states he led in in July polling in November then
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
It's amazing how impactful a chip on the shoulder is.
I mean, really, every part of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are more beautiful than any part of England? As that appears to be the implication.
I think on average Scotland is the most beautiful - a huge proportion is Hebrides, North-west Highlands, Cairngorms, and particularly our giant coastline.
The US fails on this measure as so much of it is flat and boring.
It does have some stunning parts though, I'd like to visit Utah before I shuffle off
If anyone can find something that matches that in - lol - the rockies - then good luck. The rockies are nice big mountains and there are great views but they won’t have that lovely little medieval hamlet at the bottom, will they? With the church? And the tiny tavern selling cold Cimbrian beer and excellent smoked ham. And that’s what makes the heart sing at the beauty. This is why 5 trillion people want to go to Italy and about 2 people mistakenly wander into Canada once a decade
This is an unfair test really - almost any country in Europe will be more beautiful than almost any country outside Europe because of the accumulation of culture on top of the natural beauty
Germany has some pretty parts - here's Schliersee in Bavaria.
The red roofing, green foothills and blue lake are a pleasing combination here I think.
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
It's amazing how impactful a chip on the shoulder is.
I mean, really, every part of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are more beautiful than any part of England? As that appears to be the implication.
I think on average Scotland is the most beautiful - a huge proportion is Hebrides, North-west Highlands, Cairngorms, and particularly our giant coastline.
The US fails on this measure as so much of it is flat and boring.
It does have some stunning parts though, I'd like to visit Utah before I shuffle off
If anyone can find something that matches that in - lol - the rockies - then good luck. The rockies are nice big mountains and there are great views but they won’t have that lovely little medieval hamlet at the bottom, will they? With the church? And the tiny tavern selling cold Cimbrian beer and excellent smoked ham. And that’s what makes the heart sing at the beauty. This is why 5 trillion people want to go to Italy and about 2 people mistakenly wander into Canada once a decade
This is an unfair test really - almost any country in Europe will be more beautiful than almost any country outside Europe because of the accumulation of culture on top of the natural beauty
Germany has some pretty parts - here's Schliersee in Bavaria.
The red roofing, green foothills and blue lake are a pleasing combination here I think.
PM - Liz Chancellor - Maybe an outsider like Mark Harper but he may not be willing to upend the apple cart as this nation clearly needs FS - Tom Tughendhat HS - Priti Patel (I know, yet she's consistently not fucked up the job, which I think is an achievement and it balances TT at FS) Defence - Wallace Education and Culture - Kemi Health - Rishi BIES - Gove Transport - rolled into BIES Culture - disbanded, rolled into education, internet and TV given to BIES AG - Cox Justice - Keep Raab in place Levelling up - Kwasi
It puts the bean counters in the right areas and the reformers in the right areas. The NHS desperately needs a bean counter like Rishi to come in and cut costs.
You don't think serious breaches of the ministerial code are a reason to get rid?
I would suggest that drawing a line under the criminality of the Johnson era means Patel has to go, even if she'd been the greatest Home Secretary since Sir Robert Peel (which she hasn't).
Also, I would be wary of combining Education with culture. You'd end up merging two failing departments that are already grossly unwieldy. A car crash would be a likely outcome. One problem with OFSTED is it has kept picking up functions that are simply tangential to its stated aim of raising standards in education, english the inspection of children's homes.
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
Yoon is term used for Unionists by Indy supporters. The opposite is probably "Nat".
Comes from loon I reckon, which means a younger person where I'm from but I think an idiot/fool elsewhere in Scotland?
I hadn't realised you were from the north east (the proper one)?
Nearer Inverness but loon was definitely still used at school. Braw, fash, gash, quine , fit like etc
Well if they don’t like the decision, they need to get out and vote!
US turnout is abysmal in mid-terms anyway, you shouldn’t complain about the government if you didn’t exercise your right to vote.
At this rate, Republicans take the House and the Senate in November, and Biden is a totally lame duck for two years.
On state Senate polls in key races the Democrats will hold the Senate even if the GOP take the House
If you look at 538's all-in polling averages in the Presidential in the run up to November 2020, July 2020 may not be necessarily a good indicator of the final result three months later.
EG July 2020 538 had
Wisconsin......Biden by 8 Michigan.......Biden by 8 Florida..........Biden by 3 (!) Ohio.............almost dead heat (!) Arizona.........Biden by 4 Texas............Biden by 1 (!).
Biden won 3 out of 5 of those states he led in in July polling in November then
By a tiny fraction of what 538 said, yes. In the remainder they were spectacularly and embarrassingly wrong.
PM - Liz Chancellor - Maybe an outsider like Mark Harper but he may not be willing to upend the apple cart as this nation clearly needs FS - Tom Tughendhat HS - Priti Patel (I know, yet she's consistently not fucked up the job, which I think is an achievement and it balances TT at FS) Defence - Wallace Education and Culture - Kemi Health - Rishi BIES - Gove Transport - rolled into BIES Culture - disbanded, rolled into education, internet and TV given to BIES AG - Cox Justice - Keep Raab in place Levelling up - Kwasi
It puts the bean counters in the right areas and the reformers in the right areas. The NHS desperately needs a bean counter like Rishi to come in and cut costs.
I like the idea of disbanding the Culture department and sharing its responsibilities out to other departments.
What are the Telegraph’s criteria for beauty? How the fuck do you end up with Canada 3rd?
The only thing I can think of is “vast impressive tracts of ice and snow that almost no one wants to visit” but in that case Greenland should be in the top 3 because it is all of that and more magnificent
Nah they've got this one - the Rockies are stupendously fabulous, fantastic, majestic, awesome.
I remember going in short order from the Candadian Rockies to Mull. Very interesting contrast. The Rockies are enormous, vast in scale, very overwhelming; Mull, meanwhile was in comparison no less awesome but you realised on a much more restrained level, much more understated.
Such a list, that said, is ridiculous.
I’ve seen the rockies. Several times. The alps in all their manifestations are infinitely more beautiful - nothing in Canada matches the dolomites, for example
Plus at the foot of the Dolomites you get utterly exquisite towns with gorgeous medieval castles. To put it politely this is not the case in Canada
The rockies are quite meh
Nah - you're wrong on this. The rockies are breathtaking. I certainly look out over the alps and think that's nice but the rockies are on a different scale.
As for the towns, that is another reason why the list is bonkers. Are we talking Broadway, Worcestershire or Hartlepool - what's included here? You would have to assign a value to every element of a country, add it up and give it a final score. It is not even like a 10 best films or mini-series so absurd is the idea.
No, I’m right. And I’ve travelled much much more then you so you must yield. I am simply right. Sorry
With last week's rail trips north and west of Inverness, plus Barking Riverside this week, I've done the entire Great British "National Rail" network. All of it!
What have YOU done, Leon?
You've done nothing!
[shrieking] NOTHING!!
I was going to ask if you remembered the Vale of Rheidol but that isn't part of BR any more in any sense is it??
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
Why do you use the term “Yookay”?
Does it have some alternative meeting in Scottish Nat circles?
It's amazing how impactful a chip on the shoulder is.
I mean, really, every part of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are more beautiful than any part of England? As that appears to be the implication.
@StuartDickson seems to be an absolutely pure example of Anglophobia. Pathologically acute. He specifically hates and fears England and the English, to the extent the probably spits at people if they are two yards across the border in Berwick
I am guessing that as a young man he was probably pegged, quite violently, by a Yorkshirewoman, in an English pub; in Helsinki
lol. 10/10 for the put down.
I love @StuartDickson providing further evidence of the average Nat's total and utter lack of understanding of history. The "stolen bit of Ireland" was largely stolen by Scottish settlers!
If anyone can find something that matches that in - lol - the rockies - then good luck. The rockies are nice big mountains and there are great views but they won’t have that lovely little medieval hamlet at the bottom, will they? With the church? And the tiny tavern selling cold Cimbrian beer and excellent smoked ham. And that’s what makes the heart sing at the beauty. This is why 5 trillion people want to go to Italy and about 2 people mistakenly wander into Canada once a decade
This is an unfair test really - almost any country in Europe will be more beautiful than almost any country outside Europe because of the accumulation of culture on top of the natural beauty
Great picture. Skied in the Dolomites a few times. Spectacular!
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
The Lakes say hi. Likewise the Cotswolds the marches the dales the West Country the Thames valley Northumbria and Cornwall
England is paradoxical. It has some shockingly ugly bits and some painfully banal bits, but it has managed to preserve some of the most stunning places on the planet
And anyway this is about the UK
UK undoubtedly has some beautiful parts but mainly in protected National Park areas. Whereas France is 75% beautiful and 25% rough/nondescript the UK (is probably 25% beautiful and 75% rough/nondescript. As we are so overcrowded the beautiful areas tend to be overrun with people whereas in France you can drive for miles in glorious unspoilt countryside.
fuck it here’s my list of the top ten most beautiful countries on earth based on criteria I’ve plucked from my colon
1. France 2. China 3. India 4. Italy 5. Montenegro 6. Japan 7. USA 8. Switzerland 9. UK 10. Chile
I hope that settles things
What kind of Socialist Remainer Traitor has France at one and England at nine?
France is 100 times more beautiful than England. The only thing saving the Yookay from total humiliation in such a list is Wales, Scotland and the stolen bit of Ireland.
The Lakes say hi. Likewise the Cotswolds the marches the dales the West Country the Thames valley Northumbria and Cornwall
England is paradoxical. It has some shockingly ugly bits and some painfully banal bits, but it has managed to preserve some of the most stunning places on the planet
And anyway this is about the UK
UK undoubtedly has some beautiful parts but mainly in protected National Park areas. Whereas France is 75% beautiful and 25% rough/nondescript the UK (is probably 25% beautiful and 75% rough/nondescript. As we are so overcrowded the beautiful areas tend to be overrun with people whereas in France you can drive for miles in glorious unspoilt countryside.
I guess this is right.
France also has both a Northern (rolling pastures) and a Southern (cypress trees and sand) zone, and indeed Alps.
And better preserved towns and villages.
And it’s much bigger.
If you look at a map though, quite a bit of England is either National Park or AONB. And there’s more coastline. England could probably do more with its coastline.
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I mean, really, every part of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are more beautiful than any part of England? As that appears to be the implication.
Loony is a different word altogether, mainly down south across the border.
The US fails on this measure as so much of it is flat and boring.
PM - Liz
Chancellor - Maybe an outsider like Mark Harper but he may not be willing to upend the apple cart as this nation clearly needs
FS - Tom Tughendhat
HS - Priti Patel (I know, yet she's consistently not fucked up the job, which I think is an achievement and it balances TT at FS)
Defence - Wallace
Education and Culture - Kemi
Health - Rishi
BIES - Gove
Transport - rolled into BIES
Culture - disbanded, rolled into education, internet and TV given to BIES
AG - Cox
Justice - Keep Raab in place
Levelling up - Kwasi
It puts the bean counters in the right areas and the reformers in the right areas. The NHS desperately needs a bean counter like Rishi to come in and cut costs.
What have YOU done, Leon?
You've done nothing!
[shrieking] NOTHING!!
I am guessing that as a young man he was probably pegged, quite violently, by a Yorkshirewoman, in an English pub; in Helsinki
Where is Frank Lloyd Wright, Corbusier, Nash or Palladio when you need them.
What an absurd line to take; the log cabins make this the most beautiful place on earth. LOL genuinely.
The very dirl o't reached the moon,
Till ilka lassie an' her loon
Commenced the dance fu' frisky, O!
The burden o' the sang was this--
"we never felt sic Lunar bliss;
Anither reel, an' syne a kiss,
Ower gude Glenlivet Whisky, O!"
https://twitter.com/helenkeeler/status/1552978212614987776?s=21&t=_6VnajeqXV9OVP6klRKnXA
But given how much politicians bang on about the NHS it's harder to claim being offered Health would be an insult.
Go on then. Find a photo of the Rockies that matches that one of the Dolomites. I’m guessing you’ll go for that famous view of the green lake. But it won’t have that enchanting medieval village
Meanwhile I shall prepare a photo of the Italian lakes
The red roofing, green foothills and blue lake are a pleasing combination here I think.
Here's a Canadian log cabin for @Leon
Not quite as good value now, but still pretty good odds on Betfair if you're quick.
He ought to be joint favourite with Leclerc. Instead it's 2.1 vs 5.8.
I would suggest that drawing a line under the criminality of the Johnson era means Patel has to go, even if she'd been the greatest Home Secretary since Sir Robert Peel (which she hasn't).
Also, I would be wary of combining Education with culture. You'd end up merging two failing departments that are already grossly unwieldy. A car crash would be a likely outcome. One problem with OFSTED is it has kept picking up functions that are simply tangential to its stated aim of raising standards in education, english the inspection of children's homes.
But hey its your money. Do what you want.
Canadian Rockies. What a shithole, eh?
I love @StuartDickson providing further evidence of the average Nat's total and utter lack of understanding of history. The "stolen bit of Ireland" was largely stolen by Scottish settlers!
France also has both a Northern (rolling pastures) and a Southern (cypress trees and sand) zone, and indeed Alps.
And better preserved towns and villages.
And it’s much bigger.
If you look at a map though, quite a bit of England is either National Park or AONB.
And there’s more coastline. England could probably do more with its coastline.
Of course you think its good politics, as Jones says some people say, but that doesn't make anything Jones says incorrect.