Brings to mind this clip from possibly the best sitcom ever created (is it a sitcom? It didn't appear in the list of 100 greatest sitcoms we discussed a few weeks back.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyT31PYPLRA
Feels like we're already coming slightly down off the peak in London, if I'm right. Felt hotter about an hour ago.
I’m outside in Regents Park. It’s scorched and deserted. A few brave souls hiding in the shade
I’ve never experienced heat like this in the UK, literally and emotionally. Feels like desert heat. With that same hot whirring relentless breeze that provides zero relief
Nothing really moves. The big trees stir, but listless, and helpless. Skewered.
37 degrees in suburban South Manchester.
Life going on entirely as normal. Committed drinkers outside Wetherspoons putting a shift in; weird buses which go nowhere in particular as surprisingly busy as ever, people bustling in and out of B&M Bargains. Admittedly people wearing rather fewer clothes than they might at other times. It's hot. But it's not apocalyptic. It's dry, there's a breeze. It is actually quite pleasant. I wouldn't want to be out in it indefinitely, but, you know, it'll be over tomorrow.
I have an inflatable hot tub which I have filled up. I'm not heating the water up, but it's reached a steady 34 degrees. Which is quite pleasant to dunk yourself in.
Really not the case here
Regents Park right now
Can this just be because London is about 3C hotter?
Don’t think so. I suspect it’s cultural. Londoners are more used to extreme heat - so they know to avoid it - and get better summers - so don’t feel the need to enjoy the sun whatever. Because they know there will be other, nicer sunny days
It does feel like the tories are in a death spiral and will lose the next general election, for the simple reason that they are fighting themselves on issues that are irrellevant to most people in this country. Its a bit like a repeat of the the mid 1990's with tory MP's banging on about Europe. The probable legacy of this leadership contest is going to be massive defeats over legislation.
Quite amusing that 'free marketeer' Badenoch now wants to protect the Green Belt. No doubt electoral compromise is already kicking in.
She's going to have reduce immigration a lot if she wishes to protect the Green Belt.
Basically, I think not. Much of the country doesn't even have Green Belt.
Here's the extent in England:
Anyone who thinks that is a useful policy response, rather than a basis to start educating ingrown Nimbydom as to what exists outside, needs to get on their bike. Then it can move on from there.
Leaving aside that the chart is full of manufactured comparisons (as these always are), it feels like circling the wagons.
You're right much of the country doesn't have green belt, just the bits of the country that has seen massive population growth and so the cities need to expand into the countryside to compensate.
The green belt should be abolished completely. Keep green parks, but not a green belt, because attempts to constrain the population of cities like London have utterly failed.
London's population in 1955 was less than 8.3m, its now more than 9.5m but where are the extra homes and gardens for the extra million plus people living there?
It was 8.6m in 1939.
Precisely. The green belt was a viable policy for an era of falling population where there was actually brownbelt land to rebuild post-war.
Its a f***ing stupid policy to have 70 years later when the population has grown to record levels and is growing still, the brownfield land that was devastated during the war has already been reclaimed and used but there's still no more land available to use. 🤦♂️
But some big nanny state enthusiasts want to keep it in place as it makes their own home and garden "liveable" and screw anyone else who wants their own home and garden too.
Mercifully your vision of unfettered London sprawl will never materialize. The Tory membership is about to vote in Dizzy Lizzy, who will then lose by a landslide, and we will be governed for decades by a coalition of Labour, Green and Lib Dem NIMBY ultras. Our green and pleasant land is saved!
Abolishing the Green Belt wholesale is as behind the times as is obsessing about protecting it.
There have been many policy developments since - some places have developed their GB policies, and others have supplemented them. New towns are one example.
Areas of the London GB are now more like scrubland.
Some areas inside the London GB are low density that is ready for high density - there are Low Density council estates that could be revisited at Barbican (or double Barbican) density.
Equally we need policies to look at higher density usage of shrinking household size in the Owner Occupied sector. Small HMOs are one thing that needs to be less blighted - large HMO style regulation of small HMOs is one thing - 'Friends' type lifestyles are now more heavily regulated than is necessary, for example.
There;s plenty to be done, but wholesale abolition of Greenbelt is as simplistic (and as out of date) as blind & selfish wholesale defence of it.
The Barbican isn't a council estate - everything has been privately owned since day 1.
I’m not joking about Regents Park. That wasn’t just one angle
I’ve never seen it this empty on a “lovely” sunny day
Unreal atmosphere
Good to see people heeding the Red Warning! I don't intend checking out Barking Riverside station and the adjoining Thames Clipper jetty until I come back from Inverness.
Feels like we're already coming slightly down off the peak in London, if I'm right. Felt hotter about an hour ago.
I’m outside in Regents Park. It’s scorched and deserted. A few brave souls hiding in the shade
I’ve never experienced heat like this in the UK, literally and emotionally. Feels like desert heat. With that same hot whirring relentless breeze that provides zero relief
Nothing really moves. The big trees stir, but listless, and helpless. Skewered.
37 degrees in suburban South Manchester.
Life going on entirely as normal. Committed drinkers outside Wetherspoons putting a shift in; weird buses which go nowhere in particular as surprisingly busy as ever, people bustling in and out of B&M Bargains. Admittedly people wearing rather fewer clothes than they might at other times. It's hot. But it's not apocalyptic. It's dry, there's a breeze. It is actually quite pleasant. I wouldn't want to be out in it indefinitely, but, you know, it'll be over tomorrow.
I have an inflatable hot tub which I have filled up. I'm not heating the water up, but it's reached a steady 34 degrees. Which is quite pleasant to dunk yourself in.
Really not the case here
Regents Park right now
Can this just be because London is about 3C hotter?
Don’t think so. I suspect it’s cultural. Londoners are more used to extreme heat - so they know to avoid it - and get better summers - so don’t feel the need to enjoy the sun whatever. Because they know there will be other, nicer sunny days
TLDR: Sean is the dumbest person in town ?
I don’t know who Sean is, but I can remember when you were scoffing at my predictions of broken records and possible over 40C temps
Wrong again, eh @Ian. At some point it must get embarrassing, but you plough on
Looks like a big win for the Met Office's more pricey computer systems yet again. They were predicting 36 for yesterday, and 39-40 for round about the London area today.
Met Office Computer Systems United 1 BBC MIcro Albion Rovers 0
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
Feels like we're already coming slightly down off the peak in London, if I'm right. Felt hotter about an hour ago.
I’m outside in Regents Park. It’s scorched and deserted. A few brave souls hiding in the shade
I’ve never experienced heat like this in the UK, literally and emotionally. Feels like desert heat. With that same hot whirring relentless breeze that provides zero relief
Nothing really moves. The big trees stir, but listless, and helpless. Skewered.
37 degrees in suburban South Manchester.
Life going on entirely as normal. Committed drinkers outside Wetherspoons putting a shift in; weird buses which go nowhere in particular as surprisingly busy as ever, people bustling in and out of B&M Bargains. Admittedly people wearing rather fewer clothes than they might at other times. It's hot. But it's not apocalyptic. It's dry, there's a breeze. It is actually quite pleasant. I wouldn't want to be out in it indefinitely, but, you know, it'll be over tomorrow.
I have an inflatable hot tub which I have filled up. I'm not heating the water up, but it's reached a steady 34 degrees. Which is quite pleasant to dunk yourself in.
Really not the case here
Regents Park right now
Can this just be because London is about 3C hotter?
Don’t think so. I suspect it’s cultural. Londoners are more used to extreme heat - so they know to avoid it - and get better summers - so don’t feel the need to enjoy the sun whatever. Because they know there will be other, nicer sunny days
TLDR: Sean is the dumbest person in town ?
Too many mushheads taking the Daily Mail line. I do think that paper’s editorial team need sent to the funny farm if heatwaves are going to be their new culture war front.
Feels like we're already coming slightly down off the peak in London, if I'm right. Felt hotter about an hour ago.
I’m outside in Regents Park. It’s scorched and deserted. A few brave souls hiding in the shade
I’ve never experienced heat like this in the UK, literally and emotionally. Feels like desert heat. With that same hot whirring relentless breeze that provides zero relief
Nothing really moves. The big trees stir, but listless, and helpless. Skewered.
37 degrees in suburban South Manchester.
Life going on entirely as normal. Committed drinkers outside Wetherspoons putting a shift in; weird buses which go nowhere in particular as surprisingly busy as ever, people bustling in and out of B&M Bargains. Admittedly people wearing rather fewer clothes than they might at other times. It's hot. But it's not apocalyptic. It's dry, there's a breeze. It is actually quite pleasant. I wouldn't want to be out in it indefinitely, but, you know, it'll be over tomorrow.
I have an inflatable hot tub which I have filled up. I'm not heating the water up, but it's reached a steady 34 degrees. Which is quite pleasant to dunk yourself in.
Really not the case here
Regents Park right now
Can this just be because London is about 3C hotter?
Don’t think so. I suspect it’s cultural. Londoners are more used to extreme heat - so they know to avoid it - and get better summers - so don’t feel the need to enjoy the sun whatever. Because they know there will be other, nicer sunny days
TLDR: Sean is the dumbest person in town ?
I don’t know who Sean is, but I can remember when you were scoffing at my predictions of broken records and possible over 40C temps
Wrong again, eh @Ian. At some point it must get embarrassing, but you plough on
When you have your heart attack in the heat (the least you could do, to contribute toward your prediction), there's no-one there to come to your rescue? That's why you should be indoors!
We're waiting for 43C and thousands of dead.
Meanwhile there's a big fire in Dartford, already spread to homes
33 degrees here but it is really very pleasant. Quite breezy too. No need for fans.
Had a very late dinner on the terrace as it grew dark followed by a comfortable night's sleep. Up with the larks this morning. And this was my view from downstairs when I got up.
Why you don't all decamp up here I don't know ......
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
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If this comes down to Rishi versus Penny there really could be trouble. Low turnout, maybe very low turnout.
It doesn't end with one of those two becoming leader.
if this is correct then the odds on Badenoch should shorten. She looks like more of a prospective winner with the selectorate than Truss. A more interesting candidate. Also has appeal outside the traditional 'right' of the party as evidenced by the Gove endorsement.
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
FTTP is true gigabit.
So BT is like the true cocktail cable, while the alternative is the alcohol-free mocktail version?
Feels like we're already coming slightly down off the peak in London, if I'm right. Felt hotter about an hour ago.
I’m outside in Regents Park. It’s scorched and deserted. A few brave souls hiding in the shade
I’ve never experienced heat like this in the UK, literally and emotionally. Feels like desert heat. With that same hot whirring relentless breeze that provides zero relief
Nothing really moves. The big trees stir, but listless, and helpless. Skewered.
37 degrees in suburban South Manchester.
Life going on entirely as normal. Committed drinkers outside Wetherspoons putting a shift in; weird buses which go nowhere in particular as surprisingly busy as ever, people bustling in and out of B&M Bargains. Admittedly people wearing rather fewer clothes than they might at other times. It's hot. But it's not apocalyptic. It's dry, there's a breeze. It is actually quite pleasant. I wouldn't want to be out in it indefinitely, but, you know, it'll be over tomorrow.
I have an inflatable hot tub which I have filled up. I'm not heating the water up, but it's reached a steady 34 degrees. Which is quite pleasant to dunk yourself in.
Really not the case here
Regents Park right now
Can this just be because London is about 3C hotter?
Don’t think so. I suspect it’s cultural. Londoners are more used to extreme heat - so they know to avoid it - and get better summers - so don’t feel the need to enjoy the sun whatever. Because they know there will be other, nicer sunny days
Ha, yes. 'Too hot to go out' does not compute for notherners. We're conditioned to make the most of it.
Feels like we're already coming slightly down off the peak in London, if I'm right. Felt hotter about an hour ago.
I’m outside in Regents Park. It’s scorched and deserted. A few brave souls hiding in the shade
I’ve never experienced heat like this in the UK, literally and emotionally. Feels like desert heat. With that same hot whirring relentless breeze that provides zero relief
Nothing really moves. The big trees stir, but listless, and helpless. Skewered.
Regents Park may be scorched, but the good news is that beer is cold!
if this is correct then the odds on Badenoch should shorten. She looks like more of a prospective winner with the selectorate than Truss. A more interesting candidate. Also has appeal outside the traditional 'right' of the party as evidenced by the Gove endorsement.
Badenoch vs. Truss is margin of error stuff, and none of this helps if she's out of the contest in 28 minutes time.
It does feel like the tories are in a death spiral and will lose the next general election, for the simple reason that they are fighting themselves on issues that are irrellevant to most people in this country. Its a bit like a repeat of the the mid 1990's with tory MP's banging on about Europe. The probable legacy of this leadership contest is going to be massive defeats over legislation.
Quite amusing that 'free marketeer' Badenoch now wants to protect the Green Belt. No doubt electoral compromise is already kicking in.
She's going to have reduce immigration a lot if she wishes to protect the Green Belt.
Basically, I think not. Much of the country doesn't even have Green Belt.
Here's the extent in England:
Anyone who thinks that is a useful policy response, rather than a basis to start educating ingrown Nimbydom as to what exists outside, needs to get on their bike. Then it can move on from there.
Leaving aside that the chart is full of manufactured comparisons (as these always are), it feels like circling the wagons.
You're right much of the country doesn't have green belt, just the bits of the country that has seen massive population growth and so the cities need to expand into the countryside to compensate.
The green belt should be abolished completely. Keep green parks, but not a green belt, because attempts to constrain the population of cities like London have utterly failed.
London's population in 1955 was less than 8.3m, its now more than 9.5m but where are the extra homes and gardens for the extra million plus people living there?
It was 8.6m in 1939.
Precisely. The green belt was a viable policy for an era of falling population where there was actually brownbelt land to rebuild post-war.
Its a f***ing stupid policy to have 70 years later when the population has grown to record levels and is growing still, the brownfield land that was devastated during the war has already been reclaimed and used but there's still no more land available to use. 🤦♂️
But some big nanny state enthusiasts want to keep it in place as it makes their own home and garden "liveable" and screw anyone else who wants their own home and garden too.
Mercifully your vision of unfettered London sprawl will never materialize. The Tory membership is about to vote in Dizzy Lizzy, who will then lose by a landslide, and we will be governed for decades by a coalition of Labour, Green and Lib Dem NIMBY ultras. Our green and pleasant land is saved!
Abolishing the Green Belt wholesale is as behind the times as is obsessing about protecting it.
There have been many policy developments since - some places have developed their GB policies, and others have supplemented them. New towns are one example.
Areas of the London GB are now more like scrubland.
Some areas inside the London GB are low density that is ready for high density - there are Low Density council estates that could be revisited at Barbican (or double Barbican) density.
Equally we need policies to look at higher density usage of shrinking household size in the Owner Occupied sector. Small HMOs are one thing that needs to be less blighted - large HMO style regulation of small HMOs is one thing - 'Friends' type lifestyles are now more heavily regulated than is necessary, for example.
There;s plenty to be done, but wholesale abolition of Greenbelt is as simplistic (and as out of date) as blind & selfish wholesale defence of it.
The Barbican isn't a council estate - everything has been privately owned since day 1.
I didn't say it was a Council Estate, and I don't see the releavance TBH. I used it as an example of a high density development, as it happens Council Lead, that works. Use Golden Lane just north of it if you want a 'Council Estate'.
I think the point is the same. Low density can be replaced by higher density as the core of London expands.
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
I’ve never needed Virgin customer service for the broadband. It has provided me a stable 350-550 for two years now.
Off topic but I lost my glasses in their case at Glastonbury last month. I was annoyed as although I wear contacts they were there as a backup and I wear them all the time at home.
I sent an email to the lost property office there at the end of last month while expecting to never see them again as I could have dropped them anywhere on any day (didn't see them after Thurs) in a huge site with 200,000 people.
Imagine my surprise when this morning they arrived in the post completely out of the blue, complete with post mark from Shepton Mallet, Somerset. Kudos to the lost property team there!
33 degrees here but it is really very pleasant. Quite breezy too. No need for fans.
Had a very late dinner on the terrace as it grew dark followed by a comfortable night's sleep. Up with the larks this morning. And this was my view from downstairs when I got up.
Why you don't all decamp up here I don't know ......
I hate to tell you this @Cyclefree but your house has suffered 90 degrees of subsidence rotation.
if this is correct then the odds on Badenoch should shorten. She looks like more of a prospective winner with the selectorate than Truss. A more interesting candidate. Also has appeal outside the traditional 'right' of the party as evidenced by the Gove endorsement.
Badenoch vs. Truss is margin of error stuff, and none of this helps if she's out of the contest in 28 minutes time.
The runoff can't be Badenoch vs. Truss. If she doesn't go out in 27 minutes, she could become the favourite quite quickly.
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
FTTP is true gigabit.
Are they not both fibre to the property? Or is there something technically different between them.
This is my speed on the other side of the house from the router.
I’m on a work video call, I’ve got two kids on their PS5/Xboxes, and my father is watching UHD content on the TV.
Why the string-with-cans-internet? 1Gb symmetrical here. Thinking of upgrading to 3Gbs
I have gigafast, it's the headline advertised speed is different to the wifi speed.
Something my friend who trains Sky call centre staff makes up about 20% of their inbound BB calls.
I'm waiting for youfibre to complete the second bit of work so I'm connected - can get 10Gb symmetrical but I'll stick to 1gb unless they offer a mid tier option as the router et al is max 2.5Gb.
I note that that call is the sort of thing that really should be automated away but if you did so you would merely end up with unhappy customers going elsewhere and discovering the same issue.
If Sunak is likely to lose in the members' ballot whoever he's up against, it provides an incentive for his backers to vote for the person they could live with winning rather than the person they think is beatable.
Mordaunt probably. Worst people have said so far is she's lazy and empty.
Feels like we're already coming slightly down off the peak in London, if I'm right. Felt hotter about an hour ago.
I’m outside in Regents Park. It’s scorched and deserted. A few brave souls hiding in the shade
I’ve never experienced heat like this in the UK, literally and emotionally. Feels like desert heat. With that same hot whirring relentless breeze that provides zero relief
Nothing really moves. The big trees stir, but listless, and helpless. Skewered.
37 degrees in suburban South Manchester.
Life going on entirely as normal. Committed drinkers outside Wetherspoons putting a shift in; weird buses which go nowhere in particular as surprisingly busy as ever, people bustling in and out of B&M Bargains. Admittedly people wearing rather fewer clothes than they might at other times. It's hot. But it's not apocalyptic. It's dry, there's a breeze. It is actually quite pleasant. I wouldn't want to be out in it indefinitely, but, you know, it'll be over tomorrow.
I have an inflatable hot tub which I have filled up. I'm not heating the water up, but it's reached a steady 34 degrees. Which is quite pleasant to dunk yourself in.
Really not the case here
Regents Park right now
Can this just be because London is about 3C hotter?
Don’t think so. I suspect it’s cultural. Londoners are more used to extreme heat - so they know to avoid it - and get better summers - so don’t feel the need to enjoy the sun whatever. Because they know there will be other, nicer sunny days
TLDR: Sean is the dumbest person in town ?
I don’t know who Sean is, but I can remember when you were scoffing at my predictions of broken records and possible over 40C temps
Wrong again, eh @Ian. At some point it must get embarrassing, but you plough on
When you have your heart attack in the heat (the least you could do, to contribute toward your prediction), there's no-one there to come to your rescue? That's why you should be indoors!
We're waiting for 43C and thousands of dead.
Meanwhile there's a big fire in Dartford, already spread to homes
We could litter this thread with some unedifying bickering, where you are humiliated. Again.
But I suggest we leave that for a less interesting day. Meteorologically AND politically
I'm not sure anyone "knows" anything, except the 1922 Committee counters will now - but I think they need to hand in their phones and stay in a sealed room.
Of course, campaigns and organisers will have a sense as to where their support is, and who's moving and who's not, but we've seen how volatile that can be.
Brings to mind this clip from possibly the best sitcom ever created (is it a sitcom? It didn't appear in the list of 100 greatest sitcoms we discussed a few weeks back.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyT31PYPLRA
I've an early memory of wandering round the Co-op looking for soap flakes for the district nurse to give my mate's dad an enema.
I'm not disputing the veracity of this memory, but - what? If I needed to acquire soap to be shoved up my bum (and - just - why?), I cannot imagine I'd be recruiting my daughter's friend for the task.
As a stand-alone sentence, this post is wholly cherishable - deserves some minor post-of-the day award.
if this is correct then the odds on Badenoch should shorten. She looks like more of a prospective winner with the selectorate than Truss. A more interesting candidate. Also has appeal outside the traditional 'right' of the party as evidenced by the Gove endorsement.
Badenoch vs. Truss is margin of error stuff, and none of this helps if she's out of the contest in 28 minutes time.
The runoff can't be Badenoch vs. Truss. If she doesn't go out in 27 minutes, she could become the favourite quite quickly.
The argument that KB is "more of a prospective winner with the selectorate than Truss" is margin of error stuff, and none of this helps if she's out of the contest in 24 minutes time.
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
Virgin's performance is either shit hot or shit.
It was dreadful near me until they upgraded their distro boxes. Now I get more bitrate than I can reasonably use.
Feels like we're already coming slightly down off the peak in London, if I'm right. Felt hotter about an hour ago.
I’m outside in Regents Park. It’s scorched and deserted. A few brave souls hiding in the shade
I’ve never experienced heat like this in the UK, literally and emotionally. Feels like desert heat. With that same hot whirring relentless breeze that provides zero relief
Nothing really moves. The big trees stir, but listless, and helpless. Skewered.
37 degrees in suburban South Manchester.
Life going on entirely as normal. Committed drinkers outside Wetherspoons putting a shift in; weird buses which go nowhere in particular as surprisingly busy as ever, people bustling in and out of B&M Bargains. Admittedly people wearing rather fewer clothes than they might at other times. It's hot. But it's not apocalyptic. It's dry, there's a breeze. It is actually quite pleasant. I wouldn't want to be out in it indefinitely, but, you know, it'll be over tomorrow.
I have an inflatable hot tub which I have filled up. I'm not heating the water up, but it's reached a steady 34 degrees. Which is quite pleasant to dunk yourself in.
Really not the case here
Regents Park right now
Can this just be because London is about 3C hotter?
Don’t think so. I suspect it’s cultural. Londoners are more used to extreme heat - so they know to avoid it - and get better summers - so don’t feel the need to enjoy the sun whatever. Because they know there will be other, nicer sunny days
TLDR: Sean is the dumbest person in town ?
I don’t know who Sean is, but I can remember when you were scoffing at my predictions of broken records and possible over 40C temps
Wrong again, eh @Ian. At some point it must get embarrassing, but you plough on
Surely you mean that you have no idea who @Xipe is...
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
FTTP is true gigabit.
I got FTTP gigabit 2 years ago. Literally 1Gbps downlink into the house. There was a short period of showing off about the speed of the connection and I never, ever have to worry about any buffering or what anyone else is doing in the house. Having said that, when I renew I will drop the speed to 500Mbps as the 1Gbps is complete overkill. The only real benefit it gives me is that very large downloads will be a bit quicker. That is not very often and I can afford to wait a few minutes extra if it comes to it.
It is strange to think that my current broadband can download the same amount in 1 second that my first modem (1995 - 28.8Kbps) would have taken almost 10 hours to do.
If Sunak is likely to lose in the members' ballot whoever he's up against, it provides an incentive for his backers to vote for the person they could live with winning rather than the person they think is beatable.
Mordaunt probably. Worst people have said so far is she's lazy and empty.
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
FTTP is true gigabit.
Are they not both fibre to the property? Or is there something technically different between them.
I thought virgin was coaxal, not fibre?
From what I’ve read, virgins network is pretty much at its max speed unless they start replacing the cables, whereas the new FTTP installs can theoretically push towards 100gbps just by swapping out the back end equipment.
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
FTTP is true gigabit.
Are they not both fibre to the property? Or is there something technically different between them.
The issue comes down to the size of the return path - Virgin offer 1gb download but only 52Mb upload. BT offers 910Mb download and 110Mb upload..
if this is correct then the odds on Badenoch should shorten. She looks like more of a prospective winner with the selectorate than Truss. A more interesting candidate. Also has appeal outside the traditional 'right' of the party as evidenced by the Gove endorsement.
Badenoch vs. Truss is margin of error stuff, and none of this helps if she's out of the contest in 28 minutes time.
The runoff can't be Badenoch vs. Truss. If she doesn't go out in 27 minutes, she could become the favourite quite quickly.
The argument that KB is "more of a prospective winner with the selectorate than Truss" is margin of error stuff, and none of this helps if she's out of the contest in 24 minutes time.
Sunak 34 - Badenoch 56 isn't margin of error. You seem frit.
This is my speed on the other side of the house from the router.
I’m on a work video call, I’ve got two kids on their PS5/Xboxes, and my father is watching UHD content on the TV.
Why the string-with-cans-internet? 1Gb symmetrical here. Thinking of upgrading to 3Gbs
I have gigafast, it's the headline advertised speed is different to the wifi speed.
Something my friend who trains Sky call centre staff makes up about 20% of their inbound BB calls.
I'm waiting for youfibre to complete the second bit of work so I'm connected - can get 10Gb symmetrical but I'll stick to 1gb unless they offer a mid tier option as the router et al is max 2.5Gb.
I note that that call is the sort of thing that really should be automated away but if you did so you would merely end up with unhappy customers going elsewhere and discovering the same issue.
It is part of the key facts that all ISPs tell the customer over the phone and/or in their emails when they take out the contract.
The other one is VOIP.
That's about 50% of new VOIP customers adamant they weren't told their phone needs to plugged into the back of their router.
Also another key fact.
Also they ask if it is suitable if there's a power cut/TLOS.
Badenoch unable to give a straight answer to the question of her position on net zero.
AIUI Bedenoch was suggesting a modicum of flexibility on 2050 as a dogmatic position, changing 2050 to 2060 or 2070, if practicality required it. I'm not sure that that is especially unusual amongst say European Governments, and something to get very excited about.
If this & the UAE League rumours are true, IPL team owners will be playing against other IPL owners for five months of the year in four countries. We are in the midst of the most interesting political phase of the game since the first T20 boom in 2008-12. https://t.co/LJawH2LZRX
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
FTTP is true gigabit.
I got FTTP gigabit 2 years ago. Literally 1Gbps downlink into the house. There was a short period of showing off about the speed of the connection and I never, ever have to worry about any buffering or what anyone else is doing in the house. Having said that, when I renew I will drop the speed to 500Mbps as the 1Gbps is complete overkill. The only real benefit it gives me is that very large downloads will be a bit quicker. That is not very often and I can afford to wait a few minutes extra if it comes to it.
It is strange to think that my current broadband can download the same amount in 1 second that my first modem (1995 - 28.8Kbps) would have taken almost 10 hours to do.
I'm on 115 megs with mine but it doesn't really drop below that at all. The old 30 meg broadband frequently went at 2.
Just take off your jackets, please. Everyone should take sensible precautions. A bunch of (mainly) overweight middle aged men in 40C heat should minimise their risks.
Feels like we're already coming slightly down off the peak in London, if I'm right. Felt hotter about an hour ago.
I’m outside in Regents Park. It’s scorched and deserted. A few brave souls hiding in the shade
I’ve never experienced heat like this in the UK, literally and emotionally. Feels like desert heat. With that same hot whirring relentless breeze that provides zero relief
Nothing really moves. The big trees stir, but listless, and helpless. Skewered.
Oh do calm down. This is normal in Naples and further south. People survive quite happily.
33 degrees here but it is really very pleasant. Quite breezy too. No need for fans.
Had a very late dinner on the terrace as it grew dark followed by a comfortable night's sleep. Up with the larks this morning. And this was my view from downstairs when I got up.
Why you don't all decamp up here I don't know ......
I hate to tell you this @Cyclefree but your house has suffered 90 degrees of subsidence rotation.
Very amusing.
I forgot to do it in landscape mode.
Also the grass in Regents Park will revive fine. And the temperatures London is enduring are pretty much normal in Naples.
To hear some of you, you'd think Britain had turned into Hades.
It feels like today is the day when the next PM will be chosen: either Truss or Badenoch.
Par score I have for today is:
Sunak 124, Penny 100, Truss 73, Badenoch 60
Would see Penny expanding her lead, and "breaking" the 100 mark but eliminated tomorrow:
Sunak 142, Penny 106, Truss 109
Would that then be it - Sunak v Truss goes to the members?
Or would there be one more MPs ballot where the Moirdaunts have the chance to vote for either Sunak or Truss - hence showing the members the extent of the MP preference for one over the other?
33 degrees here but it is really very pleasant. Quite breezy too. No need for fans.
Had a very late dinner on the terrace as it grew dark followed by a comfortable night's sleep. Up with the larks this morning. And this was my view from downstairs when I got up.
Why you don't all decamp up here I don't know ......
Well all other things being equal I definitely would. Cumbria has a lot going for it, and for me, its climate is one of those things. But family is here, and I have put down roots now.
if this is correct then the odds on Badenoch should shorten. She looks like more of a prospective winner with the selectorate than Truss. A more interesting candidate. Also has appeal outside the traditional 'right' of the party as evidenced by the Gove endorsement.
Badenoch vs. Truss is margin of error stuff, and none of this helps if she's out of the contest in 28 minutes time.
The runoff can't be Badenoch vs. Truss. If she doesn't go out in 27 minutes, she could become the favourite quite quickly.
The argument that KB is "more of a prospective winner with the selectorate than Truss" is margin of error stuff, and none of this helps if she's out of the contest in 24 minutes time.
Sunak 34 - Badenoch 56 isn't margin of error. You seem frit.
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If this comes down to Rishi versus Penny there really could be trouble. Low turnout, maybe very low turnout.
It doesn't end with one of those two becoming leader.
No, Mordaunt would win. A bit lazy etc but solidly bedrock Tory and well presented.
Just take off your jackets, please. Everyone should take sensible precautions. A bunch of (mainly) overweight middle aged men in 40C heat should minimise their risks.
I count no fewer than nine sensible precautions in that picture.
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
FTTP is true gigabit.
I got FTTP gigabit 2 years ago. Literally 1Gbps downlink into the house. There was a short period of showing off about the speed of the connection and I never, ever have to worry about any buffering or what anyone else is doing in the house. Having said that, when I renew I will drop the speed to 500Mbps as the 1Gbps is complete overkill. The only real benefit it gives me is that very large downloads will be a bit quicker. That is not very often and I can afford to wait a few minutes extra if it comes to it.
It is strange to think that my current broadband can download the same amount in 1 second that my first modem (1995 - 28.8Kbps) would have taken almost 10 hours to do.
I’ve found it quite useful when I have games I want to play for a couple of days every so often. Previously I’d have dumped it on my HDD and accepted the slow load times. Now I can put it on the SSD and just delete it when I’m bored, then reinstall within tea-making time when I want to play.
Feels like we're already coming slightly down off the peak in London, if I'm right. Felt hotter about an hour ago.
I’m outside in Regents Park. It’s scorched and deserted. A few brave souls hiding in the shade
I’ve never experienced heat like this in the UK, literally and emotionally. Feels like desert heat. With that same hot whirring relentless breeze that provides zero relief
Nothing really moves. The big trees stir, but listless, and helpless. Skewered.
Oh do calm down. This is normal in Naples and further south. People survive quite happily.
33 degrees here but it is really very pleasant. Quite breezy too. No need for fans.
Had a very late dinner on the terrace as it grew dark followed by a comfortable night's sleep. Up with the larks this morning. And this was my view from downstairs when I got up.
Why you don't all decamp up here I don't know ......
I hate to tell you this @Cyclefree but your house has suffered 90 degrees of subsidence rotation.
Very amusing.
I forgot to do it in landscape mode.
Also the grass in Regents Park will revive fine. And the temperatures London is enduring are pretty much normal in Naples.
To hear some of you, you'd think Britain had turned into Hades.
I take your point. But we aren't Naples. Transport infrastructure is creaking on the second day with loads staying at home, for one thing.
Just take off your jackets, please. Everyone should take sensible precautions. A bunch of (mainly) overweight middle aged men in 40C heat should minimise their risks.
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
FTTP is true gigabit.
Are they not both fibre to the property? Or is there something technically different between them.
I thought virgin was coaxal, not fibre?
From what I’ve read, virgins network is pretty much at its max speed unless they start replacing the cables, whereas the new FTTP installs can theoretically push towards 100gbps just by swapping out the back end equipment.
Which is currently a complete waste of time. In the vast majority of households the speed is limited by the WiFi in the house. I know people who have Gigabit into the house and they run entirely on WiFi which tops out at 200Mbps (if they're lucky). Even if you have wired your house with Gigabit ethernet (very rare) then you will have to upgrade every device in your house to 2.5G+ to experience any benefit whatsoever.
I know this is verging on the 640KB is enough for anyone (mis)quote but I am struggling to see much need for the average household to go above 1Gbps. Most don't need more than 200Mbps.
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
FTTP is true gigabit.
I got FTTP gigabit 2 years ago. Literally 1Gbps downlink into the house. There was a short period of showing off about the speed of the connection and I never, ever have to worry about any buffering or what anyone else is doing in the house. Having said that, when I renew I will drop the speed to 500Mbps as the 1Gbps is complete overkill. The only real benefit it gives me is that very large downloads will be a bit quicker. That is not very often and I can afford to wait a few minutes extra if it comes to it.
It is strange to think that my current broadband can download the same amount in 1 second that my first modem (1995 - 28.8Kbps) would have taken almost 10 hours to do.
if this is correct then the odds on Badenoch should shorten. She looks like more of a prospective winner with the selectorate than Truss. A more interesting candidate. Also has appeal outside the traditional 'right' of the party as evidenced by the Gove endorsement.
Badenoch vs. Truss is margin of error stuff, and none of this helps if she's out of the contest in 28 minutes time.
The runoff can't be Badenoch vs. Truss. If she doesn't go out in 27 minutes, she could become the favourite quite quickly.
The argument that KB is "more of a prospective winner with the selectorate than Truss" is margin of error stuff, and none of this helps if she's out of the contest in 24 minutes time.
Sunak 34 - Badenoch 56 isn't margin of error. You seem frit.
But the comparison is between
Sunak 34 - Badenoch 56
and
Sunak 35 - Truss 54
which is margin of error stuff.
Fair enough. It will be academic for one of them in 14 minutes' time anyway.
So only 34 minutes more of Magical Kemi Thinking to endure...
it is a decision like this that makes me think that Kemi is on to something re net zero: https://caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ewhc/admin/2022/1841 Basically the Court has ruled that the Business Secretary did not have sufficient information in terms of the quantification of our carbon output to certify that the net zero target would be met.
This is how politicians make rods for their own back and how gesture politics comes back and bites them on the bum. These areas are not, in my view, proper areas for legislation but for policy. But if you pass laws the court will give them substance.
Just take off your jackets, please. Everyone should take sensible precautions. A bunch of (mainly) overweight middle aged men in 40C heat should minimise their risks.
I'm wearing shorts today and I never wear shorts.
In my youth the only adult men who wore shorts in the UK were scoutmasters!
1.Rishi - to get over 120. In the final, inevitability argument, job done. Ideally Kemi to exit, I think.
2. Penny - to come second by a decent margin against Truss in 3rd, and for Kemi to exit.
3. Truss - to add something, anything, to the result yesterday.
4. Kemi - not to exit. If she survives today, she becomes the favourite.
This round is all about Kemi vs Liz tbh. Final round of the right primary.
Liz is keen to frame it that way - but I doubt it will work out like that, she's not that right wing and a "more of the same" candidate. As all of the top 3 are.
Whats the difference between BT FTTP and virgin cable? (Not asking for well one has shit customer service...is there something technically different?).
FTTP is true gigabit.
Are they not both fibre to the property? Or is there something technically different between them.
I thought virgin was coaxal, not fibre?
From what I’ve read, virgins network is pretty much at its max speed unless they start replacing the cables, whereas the new FTTP installs can theoretically push towards 100gbps just by swapping out the back end equipment.
Virgin is coaxial when installed; once you start using it, it becomes fibre.
Sky banging on about "climate emergency" all through this good weather it seems.
FFS I believe in tackling climate change, but if all you're going to say is "if we don't tackle climate change, then we're going to get more good weather like this" then its hardly a threat, is it? 🤦♂️
Just take off your jackets, please. Everyone should take sensible precautions. A bunch of (mainly) overweight middle aged men in 40C heat should minimise their risks.
Just take off your jackets, please. Everyone should take sensible precautions. A bunch of (mainly) overweight middle aged men in 40C heat should minimise their risks.
Badenoch unable to give a straight answer to the question of her position on net zero.
She's seen as fresh and exciting because she's a young black woman with a shot at being PM - and that is genuinely a bit of a thrill - but as to views and politics I don't see a great difference between her and your standard reactionary right wing tory.
Just take off your jackets, please. Everyone should take sensible precautions. A bunch of (mainly) overweight middle aged men in 40C heat should minimise their risks.
I'm wearing shorts today and I never wear shorts.
In my youth the only adult men who wore shorts in the UK were scoutmasters!
Comments
Truss 3.4
Mordaunt 4.5
Badenoch 22
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.160663234
Badenoch unable to give a straight answer to the question of her position on net zero.
Wrong again, eh @Ian. At some point it must get embarrassing, but you plough on
Badenoch beats everyone
Sunak 35 - Truss 54
Sunak 37 - Mordaunt 51
Sunak 34 - Badenoch 56
Truss 48 - Mordaunt 42
Truss 43 - Badenoch 46
Mordaunt 43 - Badenoch 48
Met Office Computer Systems United 1
BBC MIcro Albion Rovers 0
We're waiting for 43C and thousands of dead.
Meanwhile there's a big fire in Dartford, already spread to homes
Had a very late dinner on the terrace as it grew dark followed by a comfortable night's sleep. Up with the larks this morning. And this was my view from downstairs when I got up.
Why you don't all decamp up here I don't know ......
https://unherd.com/2022/07/do-the-tories-care-about-women/
Something my friend who trains Sky call centre staff makes up about 20% of their inbound BB calls.
It doesn't end with one of those two becoming leader.
Those photos are astonishing.
I think the point is the same. Low density can be replaced by higher density as the core of London expands.
I sent an email to the lost property office there at the end of last month while expecting to never see them again as I could have dropped them anywhere on any day (didn't see them after Thurs) in a huge site with 200,000 people.
Imagine my surprise when this morning they arrived in the post completely out of the blue, complete with post mark from Shepton Mallet, Somerset. Kudos to the lost property team there!
Your shirts will be ready in 3 weeks
But your sign says 24 hour dry cleaning
That's just the name of the shop
I note that that call is the sort of thing that really should be automated away but if you did so you would merely end up with unhappy customers going elsewhere and discovering the same issue.
But I suggest we leave that for a less interesting day. Meteorologically AND politically
Of course, campaigns and organisers will have a sense as to where their support is, and who's moving and who's not, but we've seen how volatile that can be.
If I needed to acquire soap to be shoved up my bum (and - just - why?), I cannot imagine I'd be recruiting my daughter's friend for the task.
As a stand-alone sentence, this post is wholly cherishable - deserves some minor post-of-the day award.
Tories and OnlyFans scandal
Doncaster up to 38.9.
And we'll probably get Truss as next PM.
Crack suicide squad.
https://twitter.com/William_Wragg/status/1549381503553081346
It is strange to think that my current broadband can download the same amount in 1 second that my first modem (1995 - 28.8Kbps) would have taken almost 10 hours to do.
From what I’ve read, virgins network is pretty much at its max speed unless they start replacing the cables, whereas the new FTTP installs can theoretically push towards 100gbps just by swapping out the back end equipment.
Michael Gove tells Policy Exchange:
We will find out at 3pm whether people have underestimated Kemi.
The other one is VOIP.
That's about 50% of new VOIP customers adamant they weren't told their phone needs to plugged into the back of their router.
Also another key fact.
Also they ask if it is suitable if there's a power cut/TLOS.
eg German Government:
Germany’s long-term goal is to become largely greenhouse gas-neutral by 2050. This is based on the goal stipulated in the Paris Agreement to achieve global carbon neutrality in the second half of the century. The German target also reflects the country’s particular responsibility as a leading industrialised nation and the EU’s strongest economy.
https://www.bmuv.de/en/topics/climate-adaptation/climate-protection/national-climate-policy/climate-action-plan-2050-germanys-long-term-low-greenhouse-gas-emission-development-strategy#:~:text=Germany's long-term goal is,second half of the century.
(TBF I am not sure what their formal current position is - that is off the German Govt website committing to -55% by 2030).
My view if that necessary policy should be in place to achieve net neutrality by 2050.
God, this is exciting.
I forgot to do it in landscape mode.
Also the grass in Regents Park will revive fine. And the temperatures London is enduring are pretty much normal in Naples.
To hear some of you, you'd think Britain had turned into Hades.
1.Rishi - to get over 120. In the final, inevitability argument, job done. Ideally Kemi to exit, I think.
2. Penny - to come second by a decent margin against Truss in 3rd, and for Kemi to exit.
3. Truss - to add something, anything, to the result yesterday.
4. Kemi - not to exit. If she survives today, she becomes the favourite.
Or would there be one more MPs ballot where the Moirdaunts have the chance to vote for either Sunak or Truss - hence showing the members the extent of the MP preference for one over the other?
But family is here, and I have put down roots now.
Sunak 34 - Badenoch 56
and
Sunak 35 - Truss 54
which is margin of error stuff.
But we aren't Naples.
Transport infrastructure is creaking on the second day with loads staying at home, for one thing.
I know this is verging on the 640KB is enough for anyone (mis)quote but I am struggling to see much need for the average household to go above 1Gbps. Most don't need more than 200Mbps.
Basically the Court has ruled that the Business Secretary did not have sufficient information in terms of the quantification of our carbon output to certify that the net zero target would be met.
This is how politicians make rods for their own back and how gesture politics comes back and bites them on the bum. These areas are not, in my view, proper areas for legislation but for policy. But if you pass laws the court will give them substance.
FFS I believe in tackling climate change, but if all you're going to say is "if we don't tackle climate change, then we're going to get more good weather like this" then its hardly a threat, is it? 🤦♂️
Or have I missed it?