Beware possibly THE story of summer: Putin cuts gas supplies to Europe to stop replenishing for winter + plunge it into recession. No gas coming thru Yamal pipeline for 2 months Nord Stream 1 was at 40% capacity. Now zero for “maintenance”. What chance not switched on again?
BREAKING ** @KemiBadenoch has picked up real momentum in a new @ConHome survey of 850 Tory party members today, in the wake of the Channel 4 TV debate last night. The poll puts Ms Badenoch in the lead on 31 per cent, up from 19 per cent last Monday. 1/3 #ToryLeadershipContest
Tory member preference, and general public preference, seem to have an orthogonal relationship.
The Mail are heavily pro-Truss today, and anti-Penny. She's fading.
My best guess now is that we get a Rishi-Truss contest, and Penny misses out, so I'd laid her down.
Heavily pro-Truss AFTER watching the debate? They're insane.
Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss are two credible candidates for the job of PM.
Liz Truss is a terrible communicator but she at least has a plan for the cost-of-living crisis that's not 'more of the same', and it's not unreasonable to suppose she might end up getting respected, if not liked, in the job.
BREAKING ** @KemiBadenoch has picked up real momentum in a new @ConHome survey of 850 Tory party members today, in the wake of the Channel 4 TV debate last night. The poll puts Ms Badenoch in the lead on 31 per cent, up from 19 per cent last Monday. 1/3 #ToryLeadershipContest
BREAKING ** @KemiBadenoch has picked up real momentum in a new @ConHome survey of 850 Tory party members today, in the wake of the Channel 4 TV debate last night. The poll puts Ms Badenoch in the lead on 31 per cent, up from 19 per cent last Monday. 1/3 #ToryLeadershipContest
Tory member preference, and general public preference, seem to have an orthogonal relationship.
The Mail are heavily pro-Truss today, and anti-Penny. She's fading.
My best guess now is that we get a Rishi-Truss contest, and Penny misses out, so I'd laid her down.
My feeling is that it’s too late in the day for the right to rally behind one of Truss and Kemi.
But I also don’t think Truss performed so badly as everyone thinks on that debate…
I agree. That said I think Mordaunt is going to have to really do much better tomorrow evening to try and shore things up.
I have been surprised at just how brutally they’ve gone for her, which makes me wonder if the whole party might actually be ready to leap into a precipice of infighting and conflict for the next 2 years.
BREAKING ** @KemiBadenoch has picked up real momentum in a new @ConHome survey of 850 Tory party members today, in the wake of the Channel 4 TV debate last night. The poll puts Ms Badenoch in the lead on 31 per cent, up from 19 per cent last Monday. 1/3 #ToryLeadershipContest
Tory member preference, and general public preference, seem to have an orthogonal relationship.
The Mail are heavily pro-Truss today, and anti-Penny. She's fading.
My best guess now is that we get a Rishi-Truss contest, and Penny misses out, so I'd laid her down.
Heavily pro-Truss AFTER watching the debate? They're insane.
Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss are two credible candidates for the job of PM.
Liz Truss is a terrible communicator but she at least has a plan for the cost-of-living crisis that's not 'more of the same', and it's not unreasonable to suppose she might end up getting respected, if not liked, in the job.
Right now, Penny Mordaunt is coming across as a highly average communicator, with little in the way of plan or experience.
Everyone is talking about other candidates now, not her - she has failed to live up to the hype.
And either scrub the bishops or have RC, Presbyterian, Muslim, Jewish, Wiccan, and Jedi representation. Not to mention Unitarians and Congregationalists, and Methodists too, as well as Scottish Episcopal. Jains, Buddhists, and so on. And a fair proportion of atheists brought in for that reason alone (as well as others).
The Vatican doesn't allow (or at least doesn't allow in the Latin Rite Churches, which are pretty much everywhere most of us think of as having Catholic Churches) ordained priests to take part in party politics, or in any civil legislatures). This has nothing to do with "challenges to the Pope's authority", but with the Gospel instruction to separate "the things that are Caesar's from the things that are God's" and with the now highly discredited history of the Church's involvement with temporal power.
The policy these days is a great deal more fundamental than clerical celibacy (a relatively recent policy with more exceptions than most people understand: my own parish has a married parish priest and, when he's away, usually gets its locums from the local pool of other married Catholic priests) or the restriction of ordination to men (which I'd bet won't last this century)
Another thing that’s overlooked in the Rishi ascendancy: he basically killed off “levelling up”.
To the extent that Boris “got all the big calls right”, Rishi seems to have “got all the big calls wrong.”
He might have 'got the big calls right' but not necessarily through sound judgement - who remembers the shaking hands with coronavirus patients speech?
I don’t actually buy the big calls story.
But Rishi killed Levelling Up, invited the Great Barrington lockdown deniers to Downing Street, and thinks “Ukraine can’t win”.
So Rishi only got one out of three right.
No, zero out of three. Great Barrington was before vaccine availability.
Listening to all sides of the debate and questioning whether lockdown was the right call was appropriate even pre vaccines.
Sweden did better by not having a lockdown. The Great Barrington folks were right. Vaccines work, but shutting society before they arrive was an egregious mistake. Keeping it shut after they were rolled out was unforgivable.
Sweden - at least the urban bits - did end up with a lockdown though.
Personally, I think the initial lockdown was the right call, but that we should have been much quicker to remove restrictions as the the vaccine roll out sped up in 2021.
BREAKING ** @KemiBadenoch has picked up real momentum in a new @ConHome survey of 850 Tory party members today, in the wake of the Channel 4 TV debate last night. The poll puts Ms Badenoch in the lead on 31 per cent, up from 19 per cent last Monday. 1/3 #ToryLeadershipContest
If true (we don't get a transcript of the tape), really not what we need.
1968 Rivers of Blood - Enoch Powell 2022 Oceans of Woke - Kemi Bad'enoch
Wonder what the (unquiet?) spirit of EP was saying last night? Or sputtering?
He thought the children of Africans would be beginning a civil war right now, so probably expecting the Conservative Party to be a name for an inner-city black militia.
He got it right: by 2020 the children of Africans are within a smidgen of gaining control of the country and waging (woke) war on the white urban middle classes.
I will admit though: I don't think he saw it happening via the child of an African immigrant becoming leader of the Conservative Party and PM.
Oh he did.
Enoch was right, the darkies are about to have the whip hand over white people.
"In this country in 15 or 20 years' time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man".
Simply introduce attendance requirements, and leave appointments to an independent panel.
Overall it would be good to have more regional representation (ex council leaders for example) and less political hacks and certainly no party donors.
And either scrub the bishops or have RC, Presbyterian, Muslim, Jewish, Wiccan, and Jedi representation. Not to mention Unitarians and Congregationalists, and Methodists too, as well as Scottish Episcopal. Jains, Buddhists, and so on. And a fair proportion of atheists brought in for that reason alone (as well as others).
No you still need some Bishops as the Church of England is the established church in England. The Chief Rabbi is already normally a peer by retirement and plenty of Muslim peers too. Presbyterians don't do Bishops and Lords and Scottish Episcopals leader in the Anglican communion is the Archbishop of Canterbury anyway. The Vatican does not allow Roman Catholic Bishops to join the Lords as it would challenge the authority of the Pope and the Vatican
Just pick other people - Moderators rather than Bishops. And the SEC is not subordinate to the C of E, despite your fantasies.
The Archbishop of Canterbury is primus inter pares spiritual leader of the global Anglican communion, which includes the SEC
Yes, but you are an anti-Anglican heretic. The monarch is head of the church, and we have it in writing from the greatest theologian ever to hold that position, James "Bible" VI and I, that the relationship between Christ and John was physically homosexual ("Christ had his John, and I have my George") but there is no extracting you from your "straight Christ" uncanonical fantasies.
The monarch is only head of the Church of England, the Archbishop of Canterbury is spiritual leader of the global Anglican Communion, including the UK, Africa, North America and Australia and New Zealand
I think that characterisation is a little out of balance.
The ABC is not quite a leader - more imo a 'chair', or First Amongst Equals. ABC does not have authority to tell other provinces what to do.
In a wonderfully ambiguous Anglican phrase he is also described as the "Focus for Unity" !
Beware possibly THE story of summer: Putin cuts gas supplies to Europe to stop replenishing for winter + plunge it into recession. No gas coming thru Yamal pipeline for 2 months Nord Stream 1 was at 40% capacity. Now zero for “maintenance”. What chance not switched on again?
The Germans have been smart at bringing coal capacity back on line (and also building stocks of thermal coal and lignite), but have been appalling at still trying to keep to their timetable for nuclear shut down. If they were to avoid retiring their remaining few reactors it could make a massive difference to the coming winter.
It is doubly odd, because the German Greens are usually pretty pragmatic.
BREAKING ** @KemiBadenoch has picked up real momentum in a new @ConHome survey of 850 Tory party members today, in the wake of the Channel 4 TV debate last night. The poll puts Ms Badenoch in the lead on 31 per cent, up from 19 per cent last Monday. 1/3 #ToryLeadershipContest
If true (we don't get a transcript of the tape), really not what we need.
1968 Rivers of Blood - Enoch Powell 2022 Oceans of Woke - Kemi Bad'enoch
Wonder what the (unquiet?) spirit of EP was saying last night? Or sputtering?
He thought the children of Africans would be beginning a civil war right now, so probably expecting the Conservative Party to be a name for an inner-city black militia.
He got it right: by 2020 the children of Africans are within a smidgen of gaining control of the country and waging (woke) war on the white urban middle classes.
I will admit though: I don't think he saw it happening via the child of an African immigrant becoming leader of the Conservative Party and PM.
And who is anti-woke warrior married to a White Scot.
BREAKING ** @KemiBadenoch has picked up real momentum in a new @ConHome survey of 850 Tory party members today, in the wake of the Channel 4 TV debate last night. The poll puts Ms Badenoch in the lead on 31 per cent, up from 19 per cent last Monday. 1/3 #ToryLeadershipContest
If true (we don't get a transcript of the tape), really not what we need.
1968 Rivers of Blood - Enoch Powell 2022 Oceans of Woke - Kemi Bad'enoch
Wonder what the (unquiet?) spirit of EP was saying last night? Or sputtering?
He thought the children of Africans would be beginning a civil war right now, so probably expecting the Conservative Party to be a name for an inner-city black militia.
He got it right: by 2020 the children of Africans are within a smidgen of gaining control of the country and waging (woke) war on the white urban middle classes.
I will admit though: I don't think he saw it happening via the child of an African immigrant becoming leader of the Conservative Party and PM.
Oh he did.
Enoch was right, the darkies are about to have the whip hand over white people.
"In this country in 15 or 20 years' time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man".
The election of either Sunak or Badenoch would be a major international news story simply on account of their ethnic heritage. And would by itself generate a great deal of positive worldwide publicity and good will for the UK, as election of Obama did for US.
And not just in wokish circles. Especially as both S & B are Conservatives.
Selection of Mordaunt or Truss would not be a negative, but hardly big news to the world after Thatcher and May. UK's been there, done that.
Beware possibly THE story of summer: Putin cuts gas supplies to Europe to stop replenishing for winter + plunge it into recession. No gas coming thru Yamal pipeline for 2 months Nord Stream 1 was at 40% capacity. Now zero for “maintenance”. What chance not switched on again?
BREAKING ** @KemiBadenoch has picked up real momentum in a new @ConHome survey of 850 Tory party members today, in the wake of the Channel 4 TV debate last night. The poll puts Ms Badenoch in the lead on 31 per cent, up from 19 per cent last Monday. 1/3 #ToryLeadershipContest
If true (we don't get a transcript of the tape), really not what we need.
1968 Rivers of Blood - Enoch Powell 2022 Oceans of Woke - Kemi Bad'enoch
Wonder what the (unquiet?) spirit of EP was saying last night? Or sputtering?
He thought the children of Africans would be beginning a civil war right now, so probably expecting the Conservative Party to be a name for an inner-city black militia.
He got it right: by 2020 the children of Africans are within a smidgen of gaining control of the country and waging (woke) war on the white urban middle classes.
I will admit though: I don't think he saw it happening via the child of an African immigrant becoming leader of the Conservative Party and PM.
Oh he did.
Enoch was right, the darkies are about to have the whip hand over white people.
"In this country in 15 or 20 years' time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man".
Yep. We'll have Sharia replacing English law. Just you watch...
Simply introduce attendance requirements, and leave appointments to an independent panel.
Overall it would be good to have more regional representation (ex council leaders for example) and less political hacks and certainly no party donors.
And either scrub the bishops or have RC, Presbyterian, Muslim, Jewish, Wiccan, and Jedi representation. Not to mention Unitarians and Congregationalists, and Methodists too, as well as Scottish Episcopal. Jains, Buddhists, and so on. And a fair proportion of atheists brought in for that reason alone (as well as others).
No you still need some Bishops as the Church of England is the established church in England. The Chief Rabbi is already normally a peer by retirement and plenty of Muslim peers too. Presbyterians don't do Bishops and Lords and Scottish Episcopals leader in the Anglican communion is the Archbishop of Canterbury anyway. The Vatican does not allow Roman Catholic Bishops to join the Lords as it would challenge the authority of the Pope and the Vatican
Just pick other people - Moderators rather than Bishops. And the SEC is not subordinate to the C of E, despite your fantasies.
The Archbishop of Canterbury is primus inter pares spiritual leader of the global Anglican communion, which includes the SEC
Yes, but that is not the same thing as the C of E as you know perfectly well.
Beware possibly THE story of summer: Putin cuts gas supplies to Europe to stop replenishing for winter + plunge it into recession. No gas coming thru Yamal pipeline for 2 months Nord Stream 1 was at 40% capacity. Now zero for “maintenance”. What chance not switched on again?
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Liz Truss is a terrible communicator but she at least has a plan for the cost-of-living crisis that's not 'more of the same', and it's not unreasonable to suppose she might end up getting respected, if not liked, in the job.
We could see Mark Francois in the cabinet and Dorries and JRM promoted!
If the Tory membership subject the UK to Truss as PM they should be classed as a terrorist organization and be banned !
I have been surprised at just how brutally they’ve gone for her, which makes me wonder if the whole party might actually be ready to leap into a precipice of infighting and conflict for the next 2 years.
Labour are looking better and better by the day.
Everyone is talking about other candidates now, not her - she has failed to live up to the hype.
It led to Corbyn and now it will lead to Conservative insanity.
And either scrub the bishops or have RC, Presbyterian, Muslim, Jewish, Wiccan, and Jedi representation. Not to mention Unitarians and Congregationalists, and Methodists too, as well as Scottish Episcopal. Jains, Buddhists, and so on. And a fair proportion of atheists brought in for that reason alone (as well as others).
The Vatican doesn't allow (or at least doesn't allow in the Latin Rite Churches, which are pretty much everywhere most of us think of as having Catholic Churches) ordained priests to take part in party politics, or in any civil legislatures). This has nothing to do with "challenges to the Pope's authority", but with the Gospel instruction to separate "the things that are Caesar's from the things that are God's" and with the now highly discredited history of the Church's involvement with temporal power.
The policy these days is a great deal more fundamental than clerical celibacy (a relatively recent policy with more exceptions than most people understand: my own parish has a married parish priest and, when he's away, usually gets its locums from the local pool of other married Catholic priests) or the restriction of ordination to men (which I'd bet won't last this century)
Personally, I think the initial lockdown was the right call, but that we should have been much quicker to remove restrictions as the the vaccine roll out sped up in 2021.
Enoch was right, the darkies are about to have the whip hand over white people.
"In this country in 15 or 20 years' time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man".
It is doubly odd, because the German Greens are usually pretty pragmatic.
New Thread.
Bloody Hell.
They're Like Buses This Morning.
And not just in wokish circles. Especially as both S & B are Conservatives.
Selection of Mordaunt or Truss would not be a negative, but hardly big news to the world after Thatcher and May. UK's been there, done that.
Doing the right thing in supporting Ukraine, and it is the right thing, was never going to be easy.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.200835061
2.58 Rishi Sunak 39%
2.74 Penny Mordaunt 36%
6.4 Liz Truss 16%
12.5 Kemi Badenoch 8%
80 Tom Tugendhat
310 Dominic Raab
To make the final two
1.09 Rishi Sunak 92%
1.42 Penny Mordaunt 70%
3.1 Liz Truss 32%
9.4 Kemi Badenoch 11%
40 Tom Tugendhat
Note discrepany on Kemi: 12/1 to win; 8/1 for the final two. Hat-tip @rottenborough