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Which contenders should LAB and the LDs fear most? – politicalbetting.com

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  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,901

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    EPG said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    HYUFD said:

    BREAKING **
    @KemiBadenoch has picked up real momentum in a new @ConHome survey of 850 Tory party members today, in the wake of the Channel 4 TV debate last night.
    The poll puts Ms Badenoch in the lead on 31 per cent, up from 19 per cent last Monday. 1/3 #ToryLeadershipContest


    https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1548359360870436864

    Truss now second on 20% behind Badenoch, Mordaunt 3rd on 18%, Sunak fourth on 17% and Tugendhat 5th on 10%

    https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1548359364376834050?s=20&t=cX865SPxJphZPNq-E33kaQ
    Tory member preference, and general public preference, seem to have an orthogonal relationship.

    She worries me

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg8znx/uk-equalities-minister-kemi-badenoch-goes-on-anti-lgbtq-rant-in-leaked-audio

    If true (we don't get a transcript of the tape), really not what we need.
    1968 Rivers of Blood - Enoch Powell
    2022 Oceans of Woke - Kemi Bad'enoch

    Wonder what the (unquiet?) spirit of EP was saying last night? Or sputtering?
    He thought the children of Africans would be beginning a civil war right now, so probably expecting the Conservative Party to be a name for an inner-city black militia.
    He got it right: by 2020 the children of Africans are within a smidgen of gaining control of the country and waging (woke) war on the white urban middle classes.
    I will admit though: I don't think he saw it happening via the child of an African immigrant becoming leader of the Conservative Party and PM.
    Oh he did.

    Enoch was right, the darkies are about to have the whip hand over white people.

    "In this country in 15 or 20 years' time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man".
    Yep. We'll have Sharia replacing English law. Just you watch... :D
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,899
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,899
    edited July 2022

    Betfair next prime minister

    2.08 Penny Mordaunt 48%
    3.05 Rishi Sunak 33%
    6.6 Liz Truss 15%
    28 Kemi Badenoch
    55 Tom Tugendhat
    310 Dominic Raab

    To make the final two

    1.1 Rishi Sunak 91%
    1.35 Penny Mordaunt 74%
    3.1 Liz Truss 32%
    16 Kemi Badenoch 6%
    46 Tom Tugendhat

    Betfair next PM:-

    2.08 Penny Mordaunt 48%
    3 Rishi Sunak 33%
    7.2 Liz Truss 14%
    29 Kemi Badenoch
    65 Tom Tugendhat
    310 Dominic Raab

    To make the final two:-

    1.12 Rishi Sunak 89%
    1.36 Penny Mordaunt 74%
    3.1 Liz Truss 32%
    15 Kemi Badenoch 7%
    55 Tom Tugendhat

    Hmm. Does 2/1 against Liz Truss to be in the top two look like value?
    Betfair next PM

    2.58 Rishi Sunak 39%
    2.74 Penny Mordaunt 36%
    6.4 Liz Truss 16%
    12.5 Kemi Badenoch 8%
    80 Tom Tugendhat
    310 Dominic Raab

    To make the final two
    1.09 Rishi Sunak 92%
    1.42 Penny Mordaunt 70%
    3.1 Liz Truss 32%
    9.4 Kemi Badenoch 11%
    40 Tom Tugendhat

    Note discrepany on Kemi: 12/1 to win; 8/1 for the final two. Hat-tip @rottenborough
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,838
    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    The HoL is fine.

    Simply introduce attendance requirements, and leave appointments to an independent panel.

    Overall it would be good to have more regional representation (ex council leaders for example) and less political hacks and certainly no party donors.

    And either scrub the bishops or have RC, Presbyterian, Muslim, Jewish, Wiccan, and Jedi representation. Not to mention Unitarians and Congregationalists, and Methodists too, as well as Scottish Episcopal. Jains, Buddhists, and so on. And a fair proportion of atheists brought in for that reason alone (as well as others).
    No you still need some Bishops as the Church of England is the established church in England. The Chief Rabbi is already normally a peer by retirement and plenty of Muslim peers too. Presbyterians don't do Bishops and Lords and Scottish Episcopals leader in the Anglican communion is the Archbishop of Canterbury anyway. The Vatican does not allow Roman Catholic Bishops to join the Lords as it would challenge the authority of the Pope and the Vatican
    Just pick other people - Moderators rather than Bishops. And the SEC is not subordinate to the C of E, despite your fantasies.

    The Archbishop of Canterbury is primus inter pares spiritual leader of the global Anglican communion, which includes the SEC
    Yes, but that is not the same thing as the C of E as you know perfectly well.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,899
    New thread.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,567
    Taz said:

    Beware possibly THE story of summer: Putin cuts gas supplies to Europe to stop replenishing for winter + plunge it into recession.
    No gas coming thru Yamal pipeline for 2 months
    Nord Stream 1 was at 40% capacity. Now zero for “maintenance”. What chance not switched on again?


    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1548363851359342598

    What do they expect. We are fighting an economical battle against the Russians. They are bound to respond.

    Doing the right thing in supporting Ukraine, and it is the right thing, was never going to be easy.
    It is still signing the death warrant for the Russian economy within 5 years though.
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