The Queen retains the right to refuse a peerage I think?
In theory yes. The monarch is the fountain of all honour. However should a proposed honour pass the scrutiny committee then the likelihood of the Queen refusing is as small as TSE donating his red shoes to the Jeremy Corbyn Fund For Distressed Democratic Socia*ists.
Cover your eyes Lord W.
@Leon is doing "pussy" and "cock" talk... You being here with such vulgarity is like watching porn with your parents... it's just not right!
According to the Times, Boris proposed to put Nadine in the House of Lords.
By-election in Bedfordshire klaxon.
By election in Selby & Ainsty as well.
Nigel Adams, whom enemies accuse of persuading Johnson to employ Pincher, a drinking partner of his, has been telling friends he will get a peerage. Nadine Dorries is also expected to go to the Lords and revert to writing novels.
I would fear for the very foundations of the British constitution if an outgoing, raging-against-the-dying-of-the-light, PM did not promote a few slavish cult flunkies to the HoL.
My concern for Mordaunt would be over her non-married status. It wouldn't bother me but it would be an issue for a fair number of ordinary voters.
Really? How often do we even hear about the partners of politicians? Unless there's some juicy gossip scandal they might as well be all single or committed but unmarried for all we know about it.
The Queen retains the right to refuse a peerage I think?
In theory yes. The monarch is the fountain of all honour. However should a proposed honour pass the scrutiny committee then the likelihood of the Queen refusing is as small as TSE donating his red shoes to the Jeremy Corbyn Fund For Distressed Democratic Socia*ists.
The fact that the Chancellor is under investigation by the HMRC (and previously the SFO); and that this was known by Boris, is a new low for the United Kingdom.
I think we've had worse lows, but it's not good.
Do elaborate.
I don't have specific examples to hand, but I know we've had some right dodgy figures in our illustrious parliamentary history, a Chancellor being investigated is bad but I doubt an unprecendented low.
I was talking earlier about how my ex wife - with my keen consent - experimented with lesbianism (as long as I could watch). She did it, and she had fun, but at the end she said “Nope, I don’t like pussy, I want cock” - sorry to be so vulgar but it’s hard to avoid it. My ex wife is probably the most experimental, open minded person I’ve met (she married me FFS) but she is hard wired to be hetero. Nothing to do with “absorbed prejudices”
Gosh, we're getting down to the nitty gritty now aren't we? Get another glass...
Egged on by what one insider called the “lunatics”, Johnson also began to voice the view that Sunak had been engaged in a plot lasting months to destabilise him, in cahoots with Dominic Cummings, his former aide, and Gove. “He observed that there was a lot to come out about that,” a witness said. “Someone has filled his head with it. He won’t say who he wants to succeed him, but Rishi is the one he doesn’t want to succeed him.”
...but who has been working Boris up into this state of paranoia? Surely suspicion must fall on the only person who sees him once a week with no others ever present :-)
According to the Times, Boris proposed to put Nadine in the House of Lords.
By-election in Bedfordshire klaxon.
By election in Selby & Ainsty as well.
Nigel Adams, whom enemies accuse of persuading Johnson to employ Pincher, a drinking partner of his, has been telling friends he will get a peerage. Nadine Dorries is also expected to go to the Lords and revert to writing novels.
I would fear for the very foundations of the British constitution if an outgoing, raging-against-the-dying-of-the-light, PM did not promote a few slavish cult flunkies to the HoL.
So much for all that 'the loyalists(in fact, new rebels) will fight on and Boris make a comeback' talk if he is going to install current MPs into the Lords.
I was talking earlier about how my ex wife - with my keen consent - experimented with lesbianism (as long as I could watch). She did it, and she had fun, but at the end she said “Nope, I don’t like pussy, I want cock” - sorry to be so vulgar but it’s hard to avoid it. My ex wife is probably the most experimental, open minded person I’ve met (she married me FFS) but she is hard wired to be hetero. Nothing to do with “absorbed prejudices”
Gosh, we're getting down to the nitty gritty now aren't we? Get another glass...
I detect a whiff of nostalgia from our travelling friend.
I was talking earlier about how my ex wife - with my keen consent - experimented with lesbianism (as long as I could watch). She did it, and she had fun, but at the end she said “Nope, I don’t like pussy, I want cock” - sorry to be so vulgar but it’s hard to avoid it. My ex wife is probably the most experimental, open minded person I’ve met (she married me FFS) but she is hard wired to be hetero. Nothing to do with “absorbed prejudices”
Gosh, we're getting down to the nitty gritty now aren't we? Get another glass...
You could have two effects . One of relief adding a bit and another at the horror of it all taking some off . Either way Opinium seems to have decided to use a methodology that no other pollster uses .
According to the Times, Boris proposed to put Nadine in the House of Lords.
By-election in Bedfordshire klaxon.
By election in Selby & Ainsty as well.
Nigel Adams, whom enemies accuse of persuading Johnson to employ Pincher, a drinking partner of his, has been telling friends he will get a peerage. Nadine Dorries is also expected to go to the Lords and revert to writing novels.
I would fear for the very foundations of the British constitution if an outgoing, raging-against-the-dying-of-the-light, PM did not promote a few slavish cult flunkies to the HoL.
So much for all that 'the loyalists(in fact, new rebels) will fight on and Boris make a comeback' talk if he is going to install current MPs into the Lords.
Ah, good point.
The fact that it seems only 20 cultists are heading onto the red benches probably tells us a lot about the depth of Johnsonism.
You could have two effects . One of relief adding a bit and another at the horror of it all taking some off . Either way Opinium seems to have decided to use a methodology that no other pollster uses .
The raw figures were 21 Con 29 Lab 9 LD before weightings, dont knows etc
The fact that the Chancellor is under investigation by the HMRC (and previously the SFO); and that this was known by Boris, is a new low for the United Kingdom.
I think we've had worse lows, but it's not good.
Do elaborate.
Once the selectorate has had time to think they will put character, reputation, risk assessment, personal history right at the top. Another PM giving months or years of stories for the media will be catastrophic.
This, I think, after time for reflection, will stop the Rishi campaign dead. There are two big factors: Non-dom, Green Card and the sorts of issues that arise from fabulous wealth, + the FPN associated with his staying on after Paterson, partygate, and all that, until the very last moment. That was months. He should have gone in January.
The wealth thing isn't fair; but the rest is absolutely fair game for SKS.
If the Tories want to risk it, OK, but I think it will be problematic. Bet accordingly.
I was talking earlier about how my ex wife - with my keen consent - experimented with lesbianism (as long as I could watch). She did it, and she had fun, but at the end she said “Nope, I don’t like pussy, I want cock” - sorry to be so vulgar but it’s hard to avoid it. My ex wife is probably the most experimental, open minded person I’ve met (she married me FFS) but she is hard wired to be hetero. Nothing to do with “absorbed prejudices”
Gosh, we're getting down to the nitty gritty now aren't we? Get another glass...
I detect a whiff of nostalgia from our travelling friend.
My concern for Mordaunt would be over her non-married status. It wouldn't bother me but it would be an issue for a fair number of ordinary voters.
Really? How often do we even hear about the partners of politicians? Unless there's some juicy gossip scandal they might as well be all single or committed but unmarried for all we know about it.
I know. It may not be an issue for you and me but come election time they're often encouraged to talk about their family status. The husband/wife and kids.
My concern for Mordaunt would be over her non-married status. It wouldn't bother me but it would be an issue for a fair number of ordinary voters.
Really? How often do we even hear about the partners of politicians? Unless there's some juicy gossip scandal they might as well be all single or committed but unmarried for all we know about it.
I know. It may not be an issue for you and me but come election time they're often encouraged to talk about their family status. The husband/wife and kids.
Very briefly. It's a boilerplate 'I care about family, I'm a normal person' and that's it for most of them.
So clearly they think it is important, but how much are the public really being influenced by it? The public might well assume someone has a family if the politician does not mention it.
In which case it'd have to be a pretty low opponent who would need to surreptitiously bring it up.
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
It’s literally a clip of Boris explaining why a job was *not* found for one of his flings, but it’s deeply unsavoury nonetheless. Boris sounds full of pathetic excuses and self-pity.
Wow. Fecking bombshell stuff.
VONC now.
To what end? The Tories will not vote for it. New leader coming, recess approaching.
Opinium's anticipated swingback is a brave pollig experiment. If it's accurate, we should see the other polls swing into line with it as the election approaches. The problem is that each election is different and I'm not sure one can predict th epresence and size of swingback from the limited sample of recent elections.
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
It’s literally a clip of Boris explaining why a job was *not* found for one of his flings, but it’s deeply unsavoury nonetheless. Boris sounds full of pathetic excuses and self-pity.
Wow. Fecking bombshell stuff.
VONC now.
To what end? The Tories will not vote for it. New leader coming, recess approaching.
To have the HofC discuss the extremely serious allegations which have come to light in the past 48 hours for one. To get everyone on record that they are prepared to tolerate it.
I think the first candidate - Mordaunt? - that comes out on an anti-Boris clean-up ticket wins.
Hasn't Badenoch already done that with her focus on telling the truth?
No, her truth seems to be about refusing to give in to critical race theory cancellers.
Nobody has come out and say, actually we now need to clean up.
Obligatory Yes Minister Wisdom;
Clean up a dunghill, and you're left with nothing! Except the man who did the cleaning is covered with dung.
What is the best thing for the party? Getting it all out in the open now feels like the moral thing to do (plus it discredits Dead Dog), but it won't be as neat as that, will it?
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
I’m not excusing Corbyn but Johnson has done huge damage to the office of PM.
- Hunt - basically out - Sunak - about to get taken down with his comments about the working class already circulating - Zahawi - taken down - Truss - struggling to get momentum - Badenoch - surprisingly getting some momentum from the RW crowd but can it be sustained.
This is going to be a great contest from a betting standpoint
Opinium's anticipated swingback is a brave pollig experiment. If it's accurate, we should see the other polls swing into line with it as the election approaches. The problem is that each election is different and I'm not sure one can predict th epresence and size of swingback from the limited sample of recent elections.
Yes, although the raw figures, weighted to 2019 vote before dont knows snd eont votes are removed were 29 labour 21 Con 9 LD, so not a massive lead regardless of swingback. Maybe equivalent of 10% or so?
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
I’m not excusing Corbyn but Johnson has done huge damage to the office of PM.
I see no moral difference between Corbyn and Johnson. The idea that there is one is self-exculpatory nonsense from Johnson-cucks.
I was talking earlier about how my ex wife - with my keen consent - experimented with lesbianism (as long as I could watch). She did it, and she had fun, but at the end she said “Nope, I don’t like pussy, I want cock” - sorry to be so vulgar but it’s hard to avoid it. My ex wife is probably the most experimental, open minded person I’ve met (she married me FFS) but she is hard wired to be hetero. Nothing to do with “absorbed prejudices”
Gosh, we're getting down to the nitty gritty now aren't we? Get another glass...
I think the first candidate - Mordaunt? - that comes out on an anti-Boris clean-up ticket wins.
Hasn't Badenoch already done that with her focus on telling the truth?
No, her truth seems to be about refusing to give in to critical race theory cancellers.
Nobody has come out and say, actually we now need to clean up.
Obligatory Yes Minister Wisdom;
Clean up a dunghill, and you're left with nothing! Except the man who did the cleaning is covered with dung.
What is the best thing for the party? Getting it all out in the open now feels like the moral thing to do (plus it discredits Dead Dog), but it won't be as neat as that, will it?
Either that or suffer as Labour bring up various new scandals every month until the election.
Tories need a clean break with Boris. They need to go outside Cabinet.
- Hunt - basically out - Sunak - about to get taken down with his comments about the working class already circulating - Zahawi - taken down - Truss - struggling to get momentum - Badenoch - surprisingly getting some momentum from the RW crowd but can it be sustained.
This is going to be a great contest from a betting standpoint
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
I’m not excusing Corbyn but Johnson has done huge damage to the office of PM.
I see no moral difference between Corbyn and Johnson. The idea that there is one is self-exculpatory nonsense from Johnson-cucks.
My concern for Mordaunt would be over her non-married status. It wouldn't bother me but it would be an issue for a fair number of ordinary voters.
Really? How often do we even hear about the partners of politicians? Unless there's some juicy gossip scandal they might as well be all single or committed but unmarried for all we know about it.
I know. It may not be an issue for you and me but come election time they're often encouraged to talk about their family status. The husband/wife and kids.
I was talking earlier about how my ex wife - with my keen consent - experimented with lesbianism (as long as I could watch). She did it, and she had fun, but at the end she said “Nope, I don’t like pussy, I want cock” - sorry to be so vulgar but it’s hard to avoid it. My ex wife is probably the most experimental, open minded person I’ve met (she married me FFS) but she is hard wired to be hetero. Nothing to do with “absorbed prejudices”
Gosh, we're getting down to the nitty gritty now aren't we? Get another glass...
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
I’m not excusing Corbyn but Johnson has done huge damage to the office of PM.
I see no moral difference between Corbyn and Johnson. The idea that there is one is self-exculpatory nonsense from Johnson-cucks.
Utter unmitigated bollocks.
You supported a crook and liar for PM right up until it became unfashionable to do so.
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
I’m not excusing Corbyn but Johnson has done huge damage to the office of PM.
I see no moral difference between Corbyn and Johnson. The idea that there is one is self-exculpatory nonsense from Johnson-cucks.
Utter unmitigated bollocks.
Oh, come off it. "We had to make Johnson leader because Corbyn." Absolute and utter gonads.
Where’s Big G with the Opinium, and Big Owl with “Starmer fans please explain”
MoonRabbit please explain
No that’s all wrong. After the first two do their part of the ceremony you have to post your no Tory lead since, count. 🤦♀️
SHIT!
I'm three days late in posting "NO TORY POLL LEADS FOR SEVEN MONTHS!"
I feel like I am herding cats on here sometimes, to get the ceremony right,
NO TORY POLL LEADS FOR SEVEN MONTHS AND THREE DAYS!
That’s better 😌
But it’s polite to wait for Big Owls to embarrass himself first, not appreciating the swingback built in. Owls is probably still in pub beer garden, but it’s okay as MarqueeMark has stepped in for him.
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
I’m not excusing Corbyn but Johnson has done huge damage to the office of PM.
I see no moral difference between Corbyn and Johnson. The idea that there is one is self-exculpatory nonsense from Johnson-cucks.
Utter unmitigated bollocks.
Indeed. There is a difference: Corbyn: Wanted to corrupt the country for Russia Boris: Corrupted the country to Russia for himself
Opinium state no shift seen Con to Lab but 6% more Con 2019 have moved to 'not voting/unsure' Fieldwork before and after resignation
As predicted. And Opinium's methodology should mitigate the effect of this much more than other pollsters, right?
Yes, tweet convos with Chris Curtis seem to be saying short term opiniums methodology should be more reliable as it will smooth out the pearl clutching knee jerks They seem to be saying their key takeaway is still not seeing direct switchers to any great extent. Its all about the 2019 Tory voter strike
I think the first candidate - Mordaunt? - that comes out on an anti-Boris clean-up ticket wins.
Hasn't Badenoch already done that with her focus on telling the truth?
No, her truth seems to be about refusing to give in to critical race theory cancellers.
Nobody has come out and say, actually we now need to clean up.
Obligatory Yes Minister Wisdom;
Clean up a dunghill, and you're left with nothing! Except the man who did the cleaning is covered with dung.
What is the best thing for the party? Getting it all out in the open now feels like the moral thing to do (plus it discredits Dead Dog), but it won't be as neat as that, will it?
Either that or suffer as Labour bring up various new scandals every month until the election.
Tories need a clean break with Boris. They need to go outside Cabinet.
Ideally, the Conservatives would take a gap year and get their heads together. Under someone present-but-not-involved; a sort of Conservative Starmer (hence the enthusiasm for Wallace?). One thing to do that in opposition, another in government. Like it or not, they have to keep the show on the road, which limits the ability to push 2019-22 down the memory hole.
I think the first candidate - Mordaunt? - that comes out on an anti-Boris clean-up ticket wins.
Hasn't Badenoch already done that with her focus on telling the truth?
No, her truth seems to be about refusing to give in to critical race theory cancellers.
Nobody has come out and say, actually we now need to clean up.
Obligatory Yes Minister Wisdom;
Clean up a dunghill, and you're left with nothing! Except the man who did the cleaning is covered with dung.
What is the best thing for the party? Getting it all out in the open now feels like the moral thing to do (plus it discredits Dead Dog), but it won't be as neat as that, will it?
Either that or suffer as Labour bring up various new scandals every month until the election.
Tories need a clean break with Boris. They need to go outside Cabinet.
The fact that the Chancellor is under investigation by the HMRC (and previously the SFO); and that this was known by Boris, is a new low for the United Kingdom.
I think we've had worse lows, but it's not good.
Do elaborate.
Once the selectorate has had time to think they will put character, reputation, risk assessment, personal history right at the top. Another PM giving months or years of stories for the media will be catastrophic.
This, I think, after time for reflection, will stop the Rishi campaign dead. There are two big factors: Non-dom, Green Card and the sorts of issues that arise from fabulous wealth, + the FPN associated with his staying on after Paterson, partygate, and all that, until the very last moment. That was months. He should have gone in January.
The wealth thing isn't fair; but the rest is absolutely fair game for SKS.
If the Tories want to risk it, OK, but I think it will be problematic. Bet accordingly.
Boris was actually born in America and held dual citizenship until Uncle Sam asked him to pay tax. Voters just don't care about this stuff.
Just saw Somerset break the record for domestic cricket at 265-5. In the midde of this absolute carnage Scrimshaw got 2-16 off 4 overs. Why isn't he playing for England???
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
I’m not excusing Corbyn but Johnson has done huge damage to the office of PM.
I see no moral difference between Corbyn and Johnson. The idea that there is one is self-exculpatory nonsense from Johnson-cucks.
Utter unmitigated bollocks.
You supported a crook and liar for PM right up until it became unfashionable to do so.
Sucks to be you.
I stopped supporting him beginning of September last year, which was before it became unfashionable. Tories were still well in the lead at that time.
The fact that the Chancellor is under investigation by the HMRC (and previously the SFO); and that this was known by Boris, is a new low for the United Kingdom.
I think we've had worse lows, but it's not good.
Do elaborate.
Once the selectorate has had time to think they will put character, reputation, risk assessment, personal history right at the top. Another PM giving months or years of stories for the media will be catastrophic.
This, I think, after time for reflection, will stop the Rishi campaign dead. There are two big factors: Non-dom, Green Card and the sorts of issues that arise from fabulous wealth, + the FPN associated with his staying on after Paterson, partygate, and all that, until the very last moment. That was months. He should have gone in January.
The wealth thing isn't fair; but the rest is absolutely fair game for SKS.
If the Tories want to risk it, OK, but I think it will be problematic. Bet accordingly.
Boris was actually born in America and held dual citizenship until Uncle Sam asked him to pay tax. Voters just don't care about this stuff.
Johnson’s dual citizenship wasn’t a choice that reaped him tax benefits. He was just born with it.
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
I’m not excusing Corbyn but Johnson has done huge damage to the office of PM.
I see no moral difference between Corbyn and Johnson. The idea that there is one is self-exculpatory nonsense from Johnson-cucks.
Utter unmitigated bollocks.
Oh, come off it. "We had to make Johnson leader because Corbyn." Absolute and utter gonads.
Nope, they had to make Boris leader because he was best placed to break the Remainer obstructionism in Parliament led by Bercow and SKS.
I know I’m banging on but I can’t praise Montenegro highly enough
This apartment is costing me £70 a night. So if you’re a couple that’s CHEAP. It’s very luxurious. You walk out into the sea. Which is warm. Everyone does it. I’m by Kotor bay but it’s the quiet side of the bay. A little fishing village. 2 minutes walk to eat that sea bream
There isn’t much to do but swim and drink and contemplate the mountains
But if you want drama the wild mountains are 40 minutes drive away and you can find entire mighty rivers in the sun with no tourists - plus chic little towns and ancient forts
The tiny airport is 10’ minutes from here. Direct flights from Gatwick
Very bad news for those supporting Penny Mordaunt.
You've got Michael Fabricant for company.
The more the merrier.
It's really unhelpful that all the nutters are endorsing different candidates. Cummings with Sunak, Fabricant with Mordaunt, Rees-Mogg with (presumably) Truss, and Braverman and Shapps with themselves.
Why couldn't they all rally behind one candidate so we could get rid of them fast?
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
I’m not excusing Corbyn but Johnson has done huge damage to the office of PM.
I see no moral difference between Corbyn and Johnson. The idea that there is one is self-exculpatory nonsense from Johnson-cucks.
Utter unmitigated bollocks.
Oh, come off it. "We had to make Johnson leader because Corbyn." Absolute and utter gonads.
Nope, they had to make Boris leader because he was best placed to break the Remainer obstructionism in Parliament led by Bercow and SKS.
I seem to remember it was the Tories doing most of the obstructing. How many of them voted against the Brexit policy of their own government?
According to the Times, Boris proposed to put Nadine in the House of Lords.
By-election in Bedfordshire klaxon.
By election in Selby & Ainsty as well.
Nigel Adams, whom enemies accuse of persuading Johnson to employ Pincher, a drinking partner of his, has been telling friends he will get a peerage. Nadine Dorries is also expected to go to the Lords and revert to writing novels.
Chief of staff available. No job too big or small. Apply LORD Guto Harri
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
I’m not excusing Corbyn but Johnson has done huge damage to the office of PM.
I see no moral difference between Corbyn and Johnson. The idea that there is one is self-exculpatory nonsense from Johnson-cucks.
Utter unmitigated bollocks.
Oh, come off it. "We had to make Johnson leader because Corbyn." Absolute and utter gonads.
Nope, they had to make Boris leader because he was best placed to break the Remainer obstructionism in Parliament led by Bercow and SKS. would have kept destabilising the government until he got what he wanted, which was power.
Sunak is the sanest of the Leavers but admittedly has some baggage . All the cabinet members have the issue of supporting Johnson for 2 and a half years . Equally I suppose they could accuse Starmer of being willing to put Corbyn in no 10.
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
Which is worse, supporting a liar or supporting someone honestly engaging in antisemitism?
I’m not excusing Corbyn but Johnson has done huge damage to the office of PM.
I see no moral difference between Corbyn and Johnson. The idea that there is one is self-exculpatory nonsense from Johnson-cucks.
Utter unmitigated bollocks.
Oh, come off it. "We had to make Johnson leader because Corbyn." Absolute and utter gonads.
Nope, they had to make Boris leader because he was best placed to break the Remainer obstructionism in Parliament led by Bercow and SKS.
I seem to remember it was the Tories doing most of the obstructing. How many of them voted against the Brexit policy of their own government?
You remember incorrectly - more Labour MPs voted wilfully for impasse than Tory MPs.
But then, you wouldn't remember things unhelpful to your side as an extremist Eurozealot.
SeaShantyIrish2 (and anyone else interested in the chemistry of sexual attraction): There are ways MHCs could be used to test compatibility. For instance, a match-making site could provide "scratch-and-sniff" strips to their customers.
Which, since I live a few blocks from a major Google operation, led me to this disturbing thought: I believe it would be technically possible to collect scents as people walk by -- which might make possible very personalized ads, offering links to people with very different MHCs than what you have.
Possibly, dogs could be trained to identify matches.
As always with new technology, we should think about how it could be used in frauds. For example, a gigolo might target a wealthy woman by disguising his scent with one she would prefer.
He said "there will be a contest". He didn't say "I am resigning so there will be a contest"
This is a common mistake people make about rulebooks - they assume every single scenario under the sun must be covered within them and if it is not set out carved into stone something is permissable, but that really is not the case because it is impossible to cover everything. Common sense is actually a big part of administration.
There shall be a Leader of the Party (referred to in this Constitution as “the Leader”) drawn from those elected to the House of Commons, who shall be elected by the Party Members and Scottish Party Members in accordance with the provisions of Schedule 2
The Board (which 'have the power to do anything which in its opinion releates to the management and administration of the power') is responsible for 'the overseeing of the procedure for the election of the Leader in accordance with the provisions of Schedule 2'
Schedule 2 is categorical a leader 'resigning' from the leadership is not eligible. But let's play this out and say resigning is not necessarily a trigger.
Point 3 states
Upon the initiation of an election for the Leader, it shall be the duty of the 1922 Committee to present to the Party, as soon as reasonably practicable, a choice of candidates for election as Leader. The rules for deciding the procedure by which the 1922 Committee selects candidates for submission for election shall be determined by the Executive Committee of the 1922 Committee after consultation of the Board
So let's say Boris argfues the process has been 'initiated' without him resigning - the 1922 still gets to decide how the candidates are selected, and can say the current PM, in this case, is not eligible, based on his statements.
You can argue the toss about him trying to play fast and loose with the rules, but if he does that they have the tools to stymie him - this is only happening because as he acknowledged the will of the parliamentary party was that he not be leader. So he will not be allowed to be eligible, I am very confident of that.
Because it is not a question of what he can do - the will to remove him is there, so a way will be found. As noted, if he is saying he has not resigned then Brady and the committee can surely say well then no contest can happen until we settle if there is a vacancy or not.
Edit: chrisb makes the same point in about 1/10 of the space.
“… shall be elected by the Party Members and Scottish Party Members…”
Best guess: judging policies on all their benefits, not just against an arbitrary target (which is, in any case, rendered pointless by the behaviour of much of the rest of the world).
Taking a wild stab, reducing our (already comparatively very low) carbon emissions at a speed that doesn't impoverish the citizenry and wreck the economy. Weren't you complaining about the cost of living the other day? Join the dots.
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@Leon is doing "pussy" and "cock" talk... You being here with such vulgarity is like watching porn with your parents... it's just not right!
Result.
He specialised in Straw Polls.
I'm three days late in posting "NO TORY POLL LEADS FOR SEVEN MONTHS!"
KEIR -7
BORIS -44
The fact that it seems only 20 cultists are heading onto the red benches probably tells us a lot about the depth of Johnsonism.
This, I think, after time for reflection, will stop the Rishi campaign dead. There are two big factors: Non-dom, Green Card and the sorts of issues that arise from fabulous wealth, + the FPN associated with his staying on after Paterson, partygate, and all that, until the very last moment. That was months. He should have gone in January.
The wealth thing isn't fair; but the rest is absolutely fair game for SKS.
If the Tories want to risk it, OK, but I think it will be problematic. Bet accordingly.
So clearly they think it is important, but how much are the public really being influenced by it? The public might well assume someone has a family if the politician does not mention it.
In which case it'd have to be a pretty low opponent who would need to surreptitiously bring it up.
Has anyone else been advising their MP on this?
Corbyn was very flawed but not a pathological liar so perhaps that’s a possible riposte !
I think looking at this Opinium, the actual average Labour lead has to be much more than 6 at this moment.
To get everyone on record that they are prepared to tolerate it.
Clean up a dunghill, and you're left with nothing! Except the man who did the cleaning is covered with dung.
What is the best thing for the party? Getting it all out in the open now feels like the moral thing to do (plus it discredits Dead Dog), but it won't be as neat as that, will it?
You've got Michael Fabricant for company.
Amazed he was still alive tbh.
Tories need a clean break with Boris.
They need to go outside Cabinet.
PS: just to be clear:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36752865
'The Times headlined its front-page lead story: "Being a mother gives me edge on May - Leadsom."
It quoted the energy minister as saying Mrs May "possibly has nieces, nephews, lots of people.
"But I have children who are going to have children who will directly be part of what happens next".'
Sucks to be you.
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And..... Starmer leads 28 to 20 on best PM........ versus Boris, after this week, lmfao
But it’s polite to wait for Big Owls to embarrass himself first, not appreciating the swingback built in. Owls is probably still in pub beer garden, but it’s okay as MarqueeMark has stepped in for him.
Neither have Mordaunt, Javid or Patel (rumoured).
Corbyn: Wanted to corrupt the country for Russia
Boris: Corrupted the country to Russia for himself
They seem to be saying their key takeaway is still not seeing direct switchers to any great extent. Its all about the 2019 Tory voter strike
Ideally, the Conservatives would take a gap year and get their heads together. Under someone present-but-not-involved; a sort of Conservative Starmer (hence the enthusiasm for Wallace?). One thing to do that in opposition, another in government. Like it or not, they have to keep the show on the road, which limits the ability to push 2019-22 down the memory hole.
But I agree with your final two sentences
This apartment is costing me £70 a night. So if you’re a couple that’s CHEAP. It’s very luxurious. You walk out into the sea. Which is warm. Everyone does it. I’m by Kotor bay but it’s the quiet side of the bay. A little fishing village. 2
minutes walk to eat that sea bream
There isn’t much to do but swim and drink and contemplate the mountains
But if you want drama the wild mountains are 40 minutes drive away and you can find entire mighty rivers in the sun with no tourists - plus chic little towns and ancient forts
The tiny airport is 10’ minutes from here. Direct flights from Gatwick
Why couldn't they all rally behind one candidate so we could get rid of them fast?
But then, you wouldn't remember things unhelpful to your side as an extremist Eurozealot.
Which, since I live a few blocks from a major Google operation, led me to this disturbing thought: I believe it would be technically possible to collect scents as people walk by -- which might make possible very personalized ads, offering links to people with very different MHCs than what you have.
Possibly, dogs could be trained to identify matches.
As always with new technology, we should think about how it could be used in frauds. For example, a gigolo might target a wealthy woman by disguising his scent with one she would prefer.
Why the distinction?