Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Best guess, Friday 15th (it is a Commons sitting Friday) or Monday 18th, with a view to being down to two candidates by Thursday 21st latest.
They will 100% be down to 2 by recess and no more than 4 weeks voting. Maximum caretaker run of 6 weeks.
I forget how this is done. Will there by hustings and debates and speeches?
Probably! I cant recall. Ideally we get to 2 in 2 weeks and they agree a 'deal' and hes gone at recess
Yes there will be all that stuff, but only if it gets to the members vote. They'll have to keep hustings down to a minimum or Johnson really will be there until October i.e. forget doing one in every region.
It’s perfectly sensible for Boris to remain in post until the new leader is appointed. No need to add further disruption with an interim PM. 9:30 AM · Jul 7, 2022"
Did I just correctly hear Robert Peston saying that Ben Wallace is unlikely to be a candidate?
He's the favourite in the betting stakes and with the Tory Home survey.
Wallace is still very much a contender and has not ruled himself out and as of now is Boris' likely successor as PM and Tory members preference for next Tory leader as Yougov shows.
Best guess, Friday 15th (it is a Commons sitting Friday) or Monday 18th, with a view to being down to two candidates by Thursday 21st latest.
They will 100% be down to 2 by recess and no more than 4 weeks voting. Maximum caretaker run of 6 weeks.
I forget how this is done. Will there by hustings and debates and speeches?
Probably! I cant recall. Ideally we get to 2 in 2 weeks and they agree a 'deal' and hes gone at recess
Yes there will be all that stuff, but only if it gets to the members vote. They'll have to keep hustings down to a minimum or Johnson really will be there until October i.e. forget doing one in every region.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Nope that was the 1992 election, more people voted in that the Brexit referendum.
17.4 million is bigger than 14.1 million.
Oh you don't do simple maths, you're one of those numpties.
But it's true. The 17.4m who voted to Leave is more people, in absolute terms, than have voted for any cause, leader or party in any British election or referendum: in history
@GoncharenkoUa Dear @BorisJohnson ! Ukraine is infinitely grateful to you for everything you have done for us. You will forever remain in our history and will be involved in the future victory. Thank you.
I thought that was a dull speech. Not dignified, nor appalling, nor interesting. What am I missing?
Well, it was a long way from a Trump speech. He seems to accept the situation. Which is something.
Boris's enablers don't give the same level of backing as Trump's. They have limits, which puts some on him.
His problem is that he got rid of the "enemy within" 2 years ago; his supporters then all turned on each other and, eventually, the man himself. This came about and was rapidly accelerated by continuous misjudgements of his own doing.
Following the astonishing support from all sides of the Conservative Party and on careful reflection I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination by acclimation of the party as the next Prime Minister
I feel it is time for the younger generation of centenarians and even those more tender in years to take the nation forward.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Look at Europe. Look at the dreadful f8icking state it is in. Betting the bank on Russian gas. At war with its farmers. Double digit inflation in some areas. Central bank able to do nothing for fear of screwing the weaker states.
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
Best guess, Friday 15th (it is a Commons sitting Friday) or Monday 18th, with a view to being down to two candidates by Thursday 21st latest.
They will 100% be down to 2 by recess and no more than 4 weeks voting. Maximum caretaker run of 6 weeks.
I forget how this is done. Will there by hustings and debates and speeches?
Probably! I cant recall. Ideally we get to 2 in 2 weeks and they agree a 'deal' and hes gone at recess
Yes there will be all that stuff, but only if it gets to the members vote. They'll have to keep hustings down to a minimum or Johnson really will be there until October i.e. forget doing one in every region.
4 week process i reckon once we have 2
The Commons returns from recess on Monday 5th September. They'll want it done before then.
The Whatsapp groups will need a frantic weekend to pledge support and work out who has any point throwing their hat in the ring. But by the end of next week, we could be down to two.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
You could not be more utterly wrong. The people who treated the voters with contempt were those who tried to overturn Brexit. Foremost amongst them SKS.
Boris listened to the calls to leave the EU - and acted. For that, he was rewarded with an 80 seat majority.
It was his casual relationship with the truth that did for him.
I have some sympathy with this point of view although I think I would put it slightly differently.
I agree with you that the Remainer Parliament was a farce. I mean, at times ridiculous and contemptuous for democracy.
But the seeds of that were sown long before, as I think you will agree if you are candid with yourself, in a referendum that was not properly conceived, either in delivery or potential outcomes and in a Brexit which was never properly drafted, by any of the protagonists.
Basically Cameron didn't think remain would lose so he never properly considered what would happen if it did. And that in itself was the ultimate contempt: a disregard for what was happening in the country outside of the Metropolitan elite south. This latter was not all of Cameron's fault but went back many years into a contempt amongst Blairites and EU officials alike.
So with regards to Brexit, Boris was really the populist rabble rouser to push it over the line. He too never thought it through but then he has never thought anything through.
It’s perfectly sensible for Boris to remain in post until the new leader is appointed. No need to add further disruption with an interim PM. 9:30 AM · Jul 7, 2022"
That would have been the case if he hadn't had such a hissy fit, and if he was not trying to cling on for 3 months.
You want people to treat you with dignity, treat them with respect.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Johnson's lies during the Brexit campaign was what put us in the dire position of either inflicting a costly policy error on the economy or damaging trust in our democracy. There was no good outcome from there, but it was Johnson who put us there. We should have implemented a soft Brexit but that was blocked by May's red lines and the Tories whipping against those options in the Commons. And Johnson doesn't even believe in Brexit, the whole thing is simply a testimony to his infinite vanity and ambition.
Following the astonishing support from all sides of the Conservative Party and on careful reflection I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination by acclimation of the party as the next Prime Minister
I feel it is time for the younger generation of centenarians and even those more tender in years to take the nation forward.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Nope that was the 1992 election, more people voted in that the Brexit referendum.
17.4 million is bigger than 14.1 million.
Oh you don't do simple maths, you're one of those numpties.
But it's true. The 17.4m who voted to Leave is more people, in absolute terms, than have voted for any cause, leader or party in any British election or referendum: in history
Oh wait you're comparing the vote splits in a binary choice plebiscite with a multi party election.
Best guess, Friday 15th (it is a Commons sitting Friday) or Monday 18th, with a view to being down to two candidates by Thursday 21st latest.
They will 100% be down to 2 by recess and no more than 4 weeks voting. Maximum caretaker run of 6 weeks.
I forget how this is done. Will there by hustings and debates and speeches?
Probably! I cant recall. Ideally we get to 2 in 2 weeks and they agree a 'deal' and hes gone at recess
Yes there will be all that stuff, but only if it gets to the members vote. They'll have to keep hustings down to a minimum or Johnson really will be there until October i.e. forget doing one in every region.
4 week process i reckon once we have 2
The Commons returns from recess on Monday 5th September. They'll want it done before then.
Tradition last few times a PM has been replaced by their own party mid-term is that the newly elected leader becomes leader but not PM immediately, with the outgoing PM then holding a valedictory PMQs and going to see HMQ afterwards.
I wonder if a new leader is elected on 5 or 6 September whether Boris would stick around for a valedictory PMQs on 7 September before being replaced? Would anyone want him to?
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Nope that was the 1992 election, more people voted in that the Brexit referendum.
17.4 million is bigger than 14.1 million.
Oh you don't do simple maths, you're one of those numpties.
But it's true. The 17.4m who voted to Leave is more people, in absolute terms, than have voted for any cause, leader or party in any British election or referendum: in history
(Although worth remembering that given that the British population is - almost - always increasing, you can claim that pretty much any incoming Prime Minister is more popular that any of their predecessors. Percentage of the population is a much more sensible way to do it. Where, of course, Brexit still leads.)
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
You could not be more utterly wrong. The people who treated the voters with contempt were those who tried to overturn Brexit. Foremost amongst them SKS.
Boris listened to the calls to leave the EU - and acted. For that, he was rewarded with an 80 seat majority.
It was his casual relationship with the truth that did for him.
I have some sympathy with this point of view although I think I would put it slightly differently.
I agree with you that the Remainer Parliament was a farce. I mean, at times ridiculous and contemptuous for democracy.
But the seeds of that were sown long before, as I think you will agree if you are candid with yourself, in a referendum that was not properly conceived, either in delivery or potential outcomes and in a Brexit which was never properly drafted, by any of the protagonists.
Basically Cameron didn't think remain would lose so he never properly considered what would happen if it did. And that in itself was the ultimate contempt: a disregard for what was happening in the country outside of the Metropolitan elite south. This latter was not all of Cameron's fault but went back many years into a contempt amongst Blairites and EU officials alike.
So with regards to Brexit, Boris was really the populist rabble rouser to push it over the line. He too never thought it through but then he has never thought anything through.
BIB: No, it's worse than that. He deliberately refused to allow any planning for what a Leave wote would mean because it would have damaged his strategy for the Remain campaign.
referendum that was not properly conceived, either in delivery or potential outcomes and in a Brexit which was never properly drafted, by any of the protagonists. - this is absolutely, 100% correct. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that, before 2019, the protagonists were almost all Remain supporters.
Strongly suspect a woman will be seen the best to confront Starmer.
Truss and Pitel would be a disaster for the Tories though. I can't quite put my finger on why I feel Truss would go down like a lead balloon but I think it is her presence. She always seems like a lightweight mimicking a serious politician.
Yes, I have sympathy with that take.
Truss has that slightly distant response of a ventriloquists dummy.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
You could not be more utterly wrong. The people who treated the voters with contempt were those who tried to overturn Brexit. Foremost amongst them SKS.
Boris listened to the calls to leave the EU - and acted. For that, he was rewarded with an 80 seat majority.
It was his casual relationship with the truth that did for him.
I have some sympathy with this point of view although I think I would put it slightly differently.
I agree with you that the Remainer Parliament was a farce. I mean, at times ridiculous and contemptuous for democracy.
But the seeds of that were sown long before, as I think you will agree if you are candid with yourself, in a referendum that was not properly conceived, either in delivery or potential outcomes and in a Brexit which was never properly drafted, by any of the protagonists.
Basically Cameron didn't think remain would lose so he never properly considered what would happen if it did. And that in itself was the ultimate contempt: a disregard for what was happening in the country outside of the Metropolitan elite south. This latter was not all of Cameron's fault but went back many years into a contempt amongst Blairites and EU officials alike.
So with regards to Brexit, Boris was really the populist rabble rouser to push it over the line. He too never thought it through but then he has never thought anything through.
Remarkably, I agree with much of this. Brexit was the culmination of decades of failure and cowardice in the British political establishment
If only Blair had possessed the courage to go for a referendum on the EU Constitution/Lisbon. He would have lost it, but so what. The EU would have been forced to give us more opt outs if they wanted more unity
Brexit avoided
Ditto Major with Maastricht, and Cameron in multiple ways
SKS not voncing this afternoon would be the biggest unforced error in political history
HoC votes aren't secret. How can any tory mp vote confidence in him?
As said above, you turn it around and say “he’s reigned, aren’t you paying attention” and have someone do a Gove from last time and go on the attack. That’s a bit harder without Gove but the leadership contenders will be queuing up to open and close the debate.
Bad politics from Starmer, promising a VONC if Boris doesn’t go.
I think he’s too sucked in to his Boris-hatred to see the wood for trees.
Boris is now castrated. The story has moved on.
The story has indeed moved on but keep an eye on the Lebedev story which was getting Labour excited in the House of Commons this morning — national security; ministerial code; criminal offence; all underpinned by Boris being vague and saying different things to different people at different times. A bit like the last story in that respect.
@GoncharenkoUa Dear @BorisJohnson ! Ukraine is infinitely grateful to you for everything you have done for us. You will forever remain in our history and will be involved in the future victory. Thank you.
SKS not voncing this afternoon would be the biggest unforced error in political history
HoC votes aren't secret. How can any tory mp vote confidence in him?
I think there would be huge numbers of Tory abstentions and Labour could bring the Govt down. They'd be foolish not to.
+1 - it would mean that the Tory party needed to sort things out in 2 weeks and would result in Government capable of making decisions arriving in July and not September...
And there are decisions that do need to be made - see my very first post on this thread.
Far more important than any of that is,,,,,,,,do they continue to embrace the hard target of net zero by 2050 at all costs?
Do you really think people would give a t*ss about Chris effing Pincher if they weren't getting poorer by the month,, the forecasts were for them to get even poorer, and there was no prospect of a recovery?
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Look at Europe. Look at the dreadful f8icking state it is in. Betting the bank on Russian gas. At war with its farmers. Double digit inflation in some areas. Central bank able to do nothing for fear of screwing the weaker states.
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
Did I just correctly hear Robert Peston saying that Ben Wallace is unlikely to be a candidate?
He's the favourite in the betting stakes and with the Tory Home survey.
Wallace is still very much a contender and has not ruled himself out and as of now is Boris' likely successor as PM and Tory members preference for next Tory leader as Yougov shows.
Peston, as so often, is not on the mark
Peston is overstating the case, but he's not so wide of the mark.
Wallace has no organisation, group of supporters, or campaign funding in place - indeed so far he's made no moves at all. And he has no real public profile.
Of course he could still throw his hat into the ring, and possibly win. But he needs to decide quickly.
@GoncharenkoUa Dear @BorisJohnson ! Ukraine is infinitely grateful to you for everything you have done for us. You will forever remain in our history and will be involved in the future victory. Thank you.
Following the astonishing support from all sides of the Conservative Party and on careful reflection I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination by acclimation of the party as the next Prime Minister
I feel it is time for the younger generation of centenarians and even those more tender in years to take the nation forward.
Far more important than any of that is,,,,,,,,do they continue to embrace the hard target of net zero by 2050 at all costs?
Do you really think people would give a t*ss about Chris effing Pincher if they weren't getting poorer by the month,, the forecasts were for them to get even poorer, and there was no prospect of a recovery?
So, your solution to higher energy bills caused by imports of fossil fuels is for us to use more fossil fuels in the future?
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Johnson's lies duringwinning the Brexit campaign was what put us in the dire position of either inflicting a costly policy error on the economy or damaging trust in our democracy. There was no good outcome from there, but it was Johnson who put us there. We should have implemented a soft Brexit but that was blocked by May's red lines and the Tories whipping against those options in the Commons. And Johnson doesn't even believe in Brexit, the whole thing is simply a testimony to his infinite vanity and ambition.
FTFY. And again, it's not just that Leave won, but that Cameron had refused to allow planning for what a Leave vote would mean.
This just looks like an attempt to evade responsibility, like we saw with some lefties last night. If you put Corbyn up against Boris, you have to take some of the blame for the public seeing the latter as the lesser of two evils. Similarly, if you spent 25 years stopping the public having any say on the European Project beginning with Maastricht, leaving only the nuclear button available to the public, you can't blame them for pushing it.
Following the astonishing support from all sides of the Conservative Party and on careful reflection I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination by acclimation of the party as the next Prime Minister
I feel it is time for the younger generation of centenarians and even those more tender in years to take the nation forward.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Nope that was the 1992 election, more people voted in that the Brexit referendum.
17.4 million is bigger than 14.1 million.
Oh you don't do simple maths, you're one of those numpties.
But it's true. The 17.4m who voted to Leave is more people, in absolute terms, than have voted for any cause, leader or party in any British election or referendum: in history
Oh wait you're comparing the vote splits in a binary choice plebiscite with a multi party election.
Did I just correctly hear Robert Peston saying that Ben Wallace is unlikely to be a candidate?
He's the favourite in the betting stakes and with the Tory Home survey.
Wallace is still very much a contender and has not ruled himself out and as of now is Boris' likely successor as PM and Tory members preference for next Tory leader as Yougov shows.
Peston, as so often, is not on the mark
Peston is overstating the case, but he's not so wide of the mark.
Wallace has no organisation, group of supporters, or campaign funding in place - indeed so far he's made no moves at all. And he has no real public profile.
Of course he could still throw his hat into the ring, and possibly win. But he needs to decide quickly.
Strongly suspect a woman will be seen the best to confront Starmer.
Truss and Pitel would be a disaster for the Tories though. I can't quite put my finger on why I feel Truss would go down like a lead balloon but I think it is her presence. She always seems like a lightweight mimicking a serious politician.
Yes, I have sympathy with that take.
Truss has that slightly distant response of a ventriloquists dummy.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Look at Europe. Look at the dreadful f8icking state it is in. Betting the bank on Russian gas. At war with its farmers. Double digit inflation in some areas. Central bank able to do nothing for fear of screwing the weaker states.
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
@GoncharenkoUa Dear @BorisJohnson ! Ukraine is infinitely grateful to you for everything you have done for us. You will forever remain in our history and will be involved in the future victory. Thank you.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Cameron got that call wrong. The vote should never have happened.
If the vote had not happened, the tory party would no longer exist.
It would, it may have fractured, but it would still be there however Cameron enabled all of this for interns also Tory party discipline.
YO seem to have completely forgotten that there was a European election in which Farage won and the tories were hammered. If that wasn't a threat from the electorate, I don't know what is.
The person Johnson forgot to thank today was Farage, who stood down his troops in many constituencies so the tories could win big. I imagine Farage bitterly regrets that, and in case any tories get any ideas, it is something he would never do again.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Look at Europe. Look at the dreadful f8icking state it is in. Betting the bank on Russian gas. At war with its farmers. Double digit inflation in some areas. Central bank able to do nothing for fear of screwing the weaker states.
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Look at Europe. Look at the dreadful f8icking state it is in. Betting the bank on Russian gas. At war with its farmers. Double digit inflation in some areas. Central bank able to do nothing for fear of screwing the weaker states.
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Look at Europe. Look at the dreadful f8icking state it is in. Betting the bank on Russian gas. At war with its farmers. Double digit inflation in some areas. Central bank able to do nothing for fear of screwing the weaker states.
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Look at Europe. Look at the dreadful f8icking state it is in. Betting the bank on Russian gas. At war with its farmers. Double digit inflation in some areas. Central bank able to do nothing for fear of screwing the weaker states.
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
@GoncharenkoUa Dear @BorisJohnson ! Ukraine is infinitely grateful to you for everything you have done for us. You will forever remain in our history and will be involved in the future victory. Thank you.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Look at Europe. Look at the dreadful f8icking state it is in. Betting the bank on Russian gas. At war with its farmers. Double digit inflation in some areas. Central bank able to do nothing for fear of screwing the weaker states.
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
The Eurozone and the US are both at 8.6%, while the UK is at 9.1%.
Why?
Because the cost of oil, gas and grain has gone through the roof.
How come Switzerland isn't suffering the same inflationary pressures as the rest of europe?
Do they rely on hydro and nuclear power and are not as dependent on gas as other countries ?
Strength of the Swiss franc? It’s a very hard currency
The franc hasn't changed that much versus sterling.
But the fact that they get most of their electricity from hydro power, and they did have negative inflation in most of recent years, means that they have not as much extra inflation and added onto a lower base.
Following the astonishing support from all sides of the Conservative Party and on careful reflection I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination by acclimation of the party as the next Prime Minister
I feel it is time for the younger generation of centenarians and even those more tender in years to take the nation forward.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Look at Europe. Look at the dreadful f8icking state it is in. Betting the bank on Russian gas. At war with its farmers. Double digit inflation in some areas. Central bank able to do nothing for fear of screwing the weaker states.
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
So now it seems at least more likely than not that he'll go, we have to replace him, in no particular order: Wallace, Tugendhat, Truss, Sunak, Javid, Hunt, Mordaunt, Braverman, Zahawi, Harper... I'm sure I've missed a least one or two.
But either way, there are at least five, possibly six there that I would find preferable to any of the candidates in 2019 or 2016, and another two or three that I would find preferable to most of those candidates. And meanwhile, SKS is (to me) preferable to any of his last three predecessors, and most of the realistic candidates to replace him (Rayner excepted) are also preferable (to me). And the Lib Dems are led by a grown-up too. There is reason to be not totally despondent for the future of politics in this country.
Far more important than any of that is,,,,,,,,do they continue to embrace the hard target of net zero by 2050 at all costs?
Do you really think people would give a t*ss about Chris effing Pincher if they weren't getting poorer by the month,, the forecasts were for them to get even poorer, and there was no prospect of a recovery?
So, your solution to higher energy bills caused by imports of fossil fuels is for us to use more fossil fuels in the future?
It's certainly a unique take.
You seem to be ignoring the green levies (Up to 15% of bills?) that Britons pay for renewables that we hear on here are as cheap as chips.
If Johnson had scrapped those subsidies, or even reduced them. he would still be PM now.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Cameron got that call wrong. The vote should never have happened.
If the vote had not happened, the tory party would no longer exist.
It would, it may have fractured, but it would still be there however Cameron enabled all of this for interns also Tory party discipline.
YO seem to have completely forgotten that there was a European election in which Farage won and the tories were hammered. If that wasn't a threat from the electorate, I don't know what is.
The person Johnson forgot to thank today was Farage, who stood down his troops in many constituencies so the tories could win big. I imagine Farage bitterly regrets that, and in case any tories get any ideas, it is something he would never do again.
Nah. Farage stood against the Tories in seats they needed to gain.
Did I just correctly hear Robert Peston saying that Ben Wallace is unlikely to be a candidate?
He's the favourite in the betting stakes and with the Tory Home survey.
Wallace is still very much a contender and has not ruled himself out and as of now is Boris' likely successor as PM and Tory members preference for next Tory leader as Yougov shows.
Peston, as so often, is not on the mark
Peston is overstating the case, but he's not so wide of the mark.
Wallace has no organisation, group of supporters, or campaign funding in place - indeed so far he's made no moves at all. And he has no real public profile.
Of course he could still throw his hat into the ring, and possibly win. But he needs to decide quickly.
Which MPs do have big blocks of support?
Hunt and Gove have whats left of their 2019 backers and will certainly hit the 5% threshold. We will see with the rest but i'd think Javid, Sunak and Truss can all bank on 5% as can Baker with the wingnuts. That might be your lot, maybe a Wallace or Zahawi or Mordaunt also hitting threshold
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Look at Europe. Look at the dreadful f8icking state it is in. Betting the bank on Russian gas. At war with its farmers. Double digit inflation in some areas. Central bank able to do nothing for fear of screwing the weaker states.
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Johnson's lies duringwinning the Brexit campaign was what put us in the dire position of either inflicting a costly policy error on the economy or damaging trust in our democracy. There was no good outcome from there, but it was Johnson who put us there. We should have implemented a soft Brexit but that was blocked by May's red lines and the Tories whipping against those options in the Commons. And Johnson doesn't even believe in Brexit, the whole thing is simply a testimony to his infinite vanity and ambition.
FTFY. And again, it's not just that Leave won, but that Cameron had refused to allow planning for what a Leave vote would mean.
This just looks like an attempt to evade responsibility, like we saw with some lefties last night. If you put Corbyn up against Boris, you have to take some of the blame for the public seeing the latter as the lesser of two evils. Similarly, if you spent 25 years stopping the public having any say on the European Project beginning with Maastricht, leaving only the nuclear button available to the public, you can't blame them for pushing it.
I criticised Labour for choosing Corbyn as leader on here yesterday and repeatedly in the past. It was a disastrously stupid thing to do. I voted against him as leader twice. We gave the public every opportunity to vote against what you call the European Project, in the usual way of a parliamentary democracy. What was UKIP's top vote share in a Westminster election? Referenda are a poor way of doing politics, they attract every kind of protest vote and dishonest campaigning hence you end up with a vote for a Brexit that meant different things to different people, that nobody could implement in the way it was sold, which has made us all poorer, and which the public no longer support. It has been a total disaster, leaving us divided and weak. And Boris Johnson was the one who got it over the line. So no, I don't believe he got the big calls right.
Did I just correctly hear Robert Peston saying that Ben Wallace is unlikely to be a candidate?
He's the favourite in the betting stakes and with the Tory Home survey.
Wallace is still very much a contender and has not ruled himself out and as of now is Boris' likely successor as PM and Tory members preference for next Tory leader as Yougov shows.
Peston, as so often, is not on the mark
I think Wallace is playing the long game - keep on with the current job, watch a bunch of early contenders trip over themselves, then decide to run or not.
SKS not voncing this afternoon would be the biggest unforced error in political history
HoC votes aren't secret. How can any tory mp vote confidence in him?
Who's right here
Ping
The VONC is in the government, not the PM.
Who is in charge of the government?
Looking forward to ping reprising his chart hit, How Aaron Bell is doing himself and his constituents a disservice by agitating against the nailed on till 2024 pm boris johnson. Always gets me on the dance floor.
So now it seems at least more likely than not that he'll go, we have to replace him, in no particular order: Wallace, Tugendhat, Truss, Sunak, Javid, Hunt, Mordaunt, Braverman, Zahawi, Harper... I'm sure I've missed a least one or two.
But either way, there are at least five, possibly six there that I would find preferable to any of the candidates in 2019 or 2016, and another two or three that I would find preferable to most of those candidates. And meanwhile, SKS is (to me) preferable to any of his last three predecessors, and most of the realistic candidates to replace him (Rayner excepted) are also preferable (to me). And the Lib Dems are led by a grown-up too. There is reason to be not totally despondent for the future of politics in this country.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Cameron got that call wrong. The vote should never have happened.
If the vote had not happened, the tory party would no longer exist.
It would, it may have fractured, but it would still be there however Cameron enabled all of this for interns also Tory party discipline.
YO seem to have completely forgotten that there was a European election in which Farage won and the tories were hammered. If that wasn't a threat from the electorate, I don't know what is.
The person Johnson forgot to thank today was Farage, who stood down his troops in many constituencies so the tories could win big. I imagine Farage bitterly regrets that, and in case any tories get any ideas, it is something he would never do again.
Nah. Farage stood against the Tories in seats they needed to gain.
Yes, the narrative he helped them is more complex than people assume.
Did I just correctly hear Robert Peston saying that Ben Wallace is unlikely to be a candidate?
He's the favourite in the betting stakes and with the Tory Home survey.
Wallace is still very much a contender and has not ruled himself out and as of now is Boris' likely successor as PM and Tory members preference for next Tory leader as Yougov shows.
Peston, as so often, is not on the mark
Peston is overstating the case, but he's not so wide of the mark.
Wallace has no organisation, group of supporters, or campaign funding in place - indeed so far he's made no moves at all. And he has no real public profile.
Of course he could still throw his hat into the ring, and possibly win. But he needs to decide quickly.
Which MPs do have big blocks of support?
Hunt and Gove have whats left of their 2019 backers and will certainly hit the 5% threshold. We will see with the rest but i'd think Javid, Sunak and Truss can all bank on 5% as can Baker with the wingnuts. That might be your lot, maybe a Wallace or Zahawi or Mordaunt also hitting threshold
IIRC, last time a candidate only needed a proposer and seconder to get on the ballot, but they had to get 5% to get through the first ballot.
Tory MPs queueing up to deliver the eulogies after stabbing him in the back... The chutzpah is incredible.
Someone here yesterday came up with the perfect epitaph for Boris:
Got the big calls right, treated the small calls with utter contempt.
Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong. Treated the voters with utter contempt.
Implementing the biggest democratic vote in British history is treating the voters with utter contempt? OK then...
Lied to them to win the Brexit vote. Lied to them in 2019 about his deal. Lied to them about levelling up. Lied to them about 40 new hospitals. Lied in the house of commons. Lied to the cabinet. Yeah, he's treated the voters, actually our entire democratic system, with contempt. Good riddance.
You said "Got the biggest call (Brexit) wrong". But it's the alternative to this (ignoring the vote and remaining in the EU anyway as advocated by SKS) is what would have been treating the voters with contempt.
Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
Look at Europe. Look at the dreadful f8icking state it is in. Betting the bank on Russian gas. At war with its farmers. Double digit inflation in some areas. Central bank able to do nothing for fear of screwing the weaker states.
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
The Eurozone and the US are both at 8.6%, while the UK is at 9.1%.
Why?
Because the cost of oil, gas and grain has gone through the roof.
How come Switzerland isn't suffering the same inflationary pressures as the rest of europe?
Do they rely on hydro and nuclear power and are not as dependent on gas as other countries ?
Strength of the Swiss franc? It’s a very hard currency
The franc hasn't changed that much versus sterling.
But the fact that they get most of their electricity from hydro power, and they did have negative inflation in most of recent years, means that they have not as much extra inflation and added onto a lower base.
But the Franc is very strong so every extra US Dollar increase in the price of oil translates into a smaller hit on the cost of goods bought in Switzerland, compared to in the UK or Eurozone. Your reason is also correct. It's not an either/or answer.
@GoncharenkoUa Dear @BorisJohnson ! Ukraine is infinitely grateful to you for everything you have done for us. You will forever remain in our history and will be involved in the future victory. Thank you.
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Boris's negatives far outweigh his positives - but he did have positives.
@DPJHodges
It’s perfectly sensible for Boris to remain in post until the new leader is appointed. No need to add further disruption with an interim PM.
9:30 AM · Jul 7, 2022"
Peston, as so often, is not on the mark
This came about and was rapidly accelerated by continuous misjudgements of his own doing.
Following the astonishing support from all sides of the Conservative Party and on careful reflection I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination by acclimation of the party as the next Prime Minister
I feel it is time for the younger generation of centenarians and even those more tender in years to take the nation forward.
HoC votes aren't secret. How can any tory mp vote confidence in him?
Why anyone wants to rejoin that, I will absolutely never know.
I agree with you that the Remainer Parliament was a farce. I mean, at times ridiculous and contemptuous for democracy.
But the seeds of that were sown long before, as I think you will agree if you are candid with yourself, in a referendum that was not properly conceived, either in delivery or potential outcomes and in a Brexit which was never properly drafted, by any of the protagonists.
Basically Cameron didn't think remain would lose so he never properly considered what would happen if it did. And that in itself was the ultimate contempt: a disregard for what was happening in the country outside of the Metropolitan elite south. This latter was not all of Cameron's fault but went back many years into a contempt amongst Blairites and EU officials alike.
So with regards to Brexit, Boris was really the populist rabble rouser to push it over the line. He too never thought it through but then he has never thought anything through.
I think he’s too sucked in to his Boris-hatred to see the wood for trees.
Boris is now castrated. The story has moved on.
You want people to treat you with dignity, treat them with respect.
Yes that's a bit silly, but it is managable silliness.
Up 1.8% in June alone.
New 1922 executive likely to agree rules on Monday. Expectation down to final two by summer break - with contest running during recess.
But some Tory MPs want PM out immediately
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
I wonder if a new leader is elected on 5 or 6 September whether Boris would stick around for a valedictory PMQs on 7 September before being replaced? Would anyone want him to?
But key questions for the next Tory leader now are:
🔥 Do they stick with ripping up NI protocol
🔥 Do they carry on the Rwanda plan
🔥 Do they continue with the party’s realignment & embrace of the Red Wall / levelling up? https://twitter.com/michelbarnier/status/1545015642176233472
The VONC is in the government, not the PM.
All candidates need to make it clear that the Ukraine policy will be continued.
referendum that was not properly conceived, either in delivery or potential outcomes and in a Brexit which was never properly drafted, by any of the protagonists. - this is absolutely, 100% correct. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that, before 2019, the protagonists were almost all Remain supporters.
Truss has that slightly distant response of a ventriloquists dummy.
If only Blair had possessed the courage to go for a referendum on the EU Constitution/Lisbon. He would have lost it, but so what. The EU would have been forced to give us more opt outs if they wanted more unity
Brexit avoided
Ditto Major with Maastricht, and Cameron in multiple ways
And there are decisions that do need to be made - see my very first post on this thread.
Do you really think people would give a t*ss about Chris effing Pincher if they weren't getting poorer by the month,, the forecasts were for them to get even poorer, and there was no prospect of a recovery?
The Eurozone and the US are both at 8.6%, while the UK is at 9.1%.
Why?
Because the cost of oil, gas and grain has gone through the roof.
Wallace has no organisation, group of supporters, or campaign funding in place - indeed so far he's made no moves at all. And he has no real public profile.
Of course he could still throw his hat into the ring, and possibly win. But he needs to decide quickly.
The US system is terrible. Let’s not replicate it.
It's certainly a unique take.
This just looks like an attempt to evade responsibility, like we saw with some lefties last night. If you put Corbyn up against Boris, you have to take some of the blame for the public seeing the latter as the lesser of two evils. Similarly, if you spent 25 years stopping the public having any say on the European Project beginning with Maastricht, leaving only the nuclear button available to the public, you can't blame them for pushing it.
Liz Truss makes early G20 exit to drum up Tory leadership support
Foreign secretary’s retreat from Indonesia summit and potential showdown with Russia may concern allies
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/07/liz-truss-makes-early-g20-exit-to-drum-up-tory-leadership-support
He'd like the title, but none of the commitment, work or responsibility involved.
Starmer was poor at the presser. Reminded me of Kinnock and Westland.
The person Johnson forgot to thank today was Farage, who stood down his troops in many constituencies so the tories could win big. I imagine Farage bitterly regrets that, and in case any tories get any ideas, it is something he would never do again.
In any event, I'm fairly certain it will be a declared article of faith by participants in the upcoming contest.
But the fact that they get most of their electricity from hydro power, and they did have negative inflation in most of recent years, means that they have not as much extra inflation and added onto a lower base.
Wallace, Tugendhat, Truss, Sunak, Javid, Hunt, Mordaunt, Braverman, Zahawi, Harper... I'm sure I've missed a least one or two.
But either way, there are at least five, possibly six there that I would find preferable to any of the candidates in 2019 or 2016, and another two or three that I would find preferable to most of those candidates.
And meanwhile, SKS is (to me) preferable to any of his last three predecessors, and most of the realistic candidates to replace him (Rayner excepted) are also preferable (to me). And the Lib Dems are led by a grown-up too.
There is reason to be not totally despondent for the future of politics in this country.
If Johnson had scrapped those subsidies, or even reduced them. he would still be PM now.
We gave the public every opportunity to vote against what you call the European Project, in the usual way of a parliamentary democracy. What was UKIP's top vote share in a Westminster election? Referenda are a poor way of doing politics, they attract every kind of protest vote and dishonest campaigning hence you end up with a vote for a Brexit that meant different things to different people, that nobody could implement in the way it was sold, which has made us all poorer, and which the public no longer support.
It has been a total disaster, leaving us divided and weak. And Boris Johnson was the one who got it over the line. So no, I don't believe he got the big calls right.
Looking forward to ping reprising his chart hit, How Aaron Bell is doing himself and his constituents a disservice by agitating against the nailed on till 2024 pm boris johnson. Always gets me on the dance floor.
Declared: Braverman
Publicly expressed interest: Baker, Tugendhat, Berry
Possible: Ellwood, Harper, Hunt, Javid, McVey, Mordaunt, Patel, Raab, Sunak, Truss, Wallace, Zahawi
Declined: Hancock
I think so. Which probably rules out the numerate.