Come on, let it go. You don't want this to escalate until you get another sin bin.
Meh, if I'm off this site for good I don't much mind anymore, clearly the moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site.
Feel free to ban me, I'm good
"You don't agree with the moderation" != "he moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site"
I generally think the moderating team do a good job, with a relatively light hand.
(Mods: does this warrant a get-out-of-jail-free card?)
No I think banning me for using the c word and then not banning Leon is ridiculous. And the same for MoonRabbit who didn't do anything. Yet Leon is allowed to swear day after day.
I stand by what I said - but as a site which isn't democratic I also understand that I have a right to be kicked off. So if they want to kick me off for my views on it then that is also fine - or for anything else. I'll live.
For God’s sake man, I used an asterisk. I’ve told you umpteen times
The complete uncensored word will likely get you banned. That’s it. That’s the rule. Not complex
I'm not wanting to get embroiled in other people's arguments but putting an asterisk in there to get away with slinging swear words at someone is pure weaseling.
Anyway, Sajid is on his feet.
Says the spavined old crone that called me a “thoroughly nasty shit” [...]
PB is fun today
I didn't actually. I said you can be a thoroughly nasty shit to people on here. That's not at all the same thing as saying you are one.
p.s. I'm not going to raise again the issue of suicidal thoughts that you mentioned in a very heartfelt way.
I will find the email but please take this as confirmation I would like my account deleted or permanently banned, whatever is easier @PBModerator.
This site is great but I simply cannot contribute any further, it is too damaging to my mental health and I am not helping anyone else or myself by indulging any further.
I'm annoyed with Rory Stewart. IMO he would have made a good PM (orders of magnitude better than Johnson), especially with the trials that have faced our country over the last couple of years. If he was there, as a Conservative MP, there might be a rational choice for a new PM. But he left in a strop.
He considered that (a) he couldn't associate himself with *that* and that there are more important things to do with his life and his talents. Can't fault him.
Plus I get the impression from what he's said (on the podcast he does with Campbell) about the tory leadership contest he was in that he realized that he doesn't have the political ruthlessness to compete at that level -- that he was kind of shocked and outclassed by the level of maneuvering and dirty tricks the other candidates were using.
Include the unpaid PPS roles there must be, what, 120 Government jobs? 360 MPs. 30 on Select Committees? Just wondering how many have to announce they are unhappy before he can’t form a Government and whether it’s less the number required to vote no confidence in practice.
I mean, anyone who appointed Dorries as a Secretary of State is clearly already scraping the bottom of the barrel, but that’s still just about inside the barrel. He might now have pushed through the bottom. After all, why would you accept a Government job today? Don’t say no, just don’t answer the phone.
I will find the email but please take this as confirmation I would like my account deleted or permanently banned, whatever is easier @PBModerator.
This site is great but I simply cannot contribute any further, it is too damaging to my mental health and I am not helping anyone else or myself by indulging any further.
Wish you all the best.
Set your password to something random and do not store the password. Then log out for a final time.
Come on, let it go. You don't want this to escalate until you get another sin bin.
Meh, if I'm off this site for good I don't much mind anymore, clearly the moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site.
Feel free to ban me, I'm good
"You don't agree with the moderation" != "he moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site"
I generally think the moderating team do a good job, with a relatively light hand.
(Mods: does this warrant a get-out-of-jail-free card?)
No I think banning me for using the c word and then not banning Leon is ridiculous. And the same for MoonRabbit who didn't do anything. Yet Leon is allowed to swear day after day.
I stand by what I said - but as a site which isn't democratic I also understand that I have a right to be kicked off. So if they want to kick me off for my views on it then that is also fine - or for anything else. I'll live.
For God’s sake man, I used an asterisk. I’ve told you umpteen times
The complete uncensored word will likely get you banned. That’s it. That’s the rule. Not complex
I'm not wanting to get embroiled in other people's arguments but putting an asterisk in there to get away with slinging swear words at someone is pure weaseling.
Anyway, Sajid is on his feet.
Says the spavined old crone that called me a “thoroughly nasty shit” [...]
PB is fun today
I didn't actually. I said you can be a thoroughly nasty shit to people on here. That's not at all the same thing as saying you are one.
p.s. I'm not going to raise again the issue of suicidal thoughts that you mentioned in a very heartfelt way.
x
LOL
You dish out abuse and insults, then you get conniptions when anyone takes offence and does it back to you, then within the hour you vomit up platitudes about us all being “nice to each other”. You are fucking ridiculous
p.s. Betfair have just cancelled my cash out on next PM.
They know it's all over.
Oh balls, I just remembered I went all in on Starmer as next PM, with a hedge on Reeves. It was on the basis I could cash out once the PM had a few stable months.
Sigh…
Muppet! Been telling you for months that Boris would not be the PM going into the next election....
Spend anything you won off me wisely. I insist on it being squandered on wine, women and song.
His trouble is he just isn’t quite good enough as a public speaker to take the next step. He clearly wants to, but it’s not quite there. He won’t wear the crown.
I will find the email but please take this as confirmation I would like my account deleted or permanently banned, whatever is easier @PBModerator.
This site is great but I simply cannot contribute any further, it is too damaging to my mental health and I am not helping anyone else or myself by indulging any further.
Wish you all the best.
Set your password to something random and do not store the password. Then log out for a final time.
Trouble is, as I understand it - and I was told this by @Mysticrose - you can apparently create “another” account and continue posting. I’ve no idea if this is the case
Come on, let it go. You don't want this to escalate until you get another sin bin.
Meh, if I'm off this site for good I don't much mind anymore, clearly the moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site.
Feel free to ban me, I'm good
"You don't agree with the moderation" != "he moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site"
I generally think the moderating team do a good job, with a relatively light hand.
(Mods: does this warrant a get-out-of-jail-free card?)
No I think banning me for using the c word and then not banning Leon is ridiculous. And the same for MoonRabbit who didn't do anything. Yet Leon is allowed to swear day after day.
I stand by what I said - but as a site which isn't democratic I also understand that I have a right to be kicked off. So if they want to kick me off for my views on it then that is also fine - or for anything else. I'll live.
For God’s sake man, I used an asterisk. I’ve told you umpteen times
The complete uncensored word will likely get you banned. That’s it. That’s the rule. Not complex
I'm not wanting to get embroiled in other people's arguments but putting an asterisk in there to get away with slinging swear words at someone is pure weaseling.
Anyway, Sajid is on his feet.
Says the spavined old crone that called me a “thoroughly nasty shit” [...]
PB is fun today
I didn't actually. I said you can be a thoroughly nasty shit to people on here. That's not at all the same thing as saying you are one.
p.s. I'm not going to raise again the issue of suicidal thoughts that you mentioned in a very heartfelt way.
x
[...]. You are fucking ridiculous
You can't help yourself, can you? You do this all the time: swearing at people, calling them unintelligent or worse, heaping opprobrium on people.
There's a difference between that and my critiquing your stance on things, albeit it is difficult to keep up with them when they shift around.
Play the ball not the player @Leon. You drag this site down and drive away many good people.
The thing is, Cabinet ministers can't resign after that, after saying they wouldn't and even accepting promotions yesterday. Once you're craven, you're stuck being craven. They have Boris Johnson poisoning. There is no cure. https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/1544650896205877248
Penny Mordaunt is now favourite with both the next PM and next Tory leader markets on Betfair Exchange. I think Starmer was favourite on next PM until a few days ago.
We’re joining forces with @TheCrick! We will be setting up a research laboratory to bring together the world-renowned research institute’s expertise with machine learning and AI techniques to advance our understanding of biology.
Can the Tory party get on with this please. Brady needs to change the rules tonight and get the vote done tomorrow.
I do wonder what has happened to the Tories. Say what you like about them, in years past they could always be relied upon efficiently and ruthlessly remove an unwanted PM.
These days, they make Labour look decisive.
Sir Graham Brady Old Lady needs to sort it out, PDQ.
What is the point of the 1922 Committee having rules if they change them every time they want to eject a PM?
Because no one really believes the rules would actually be followed. Any other Conservative Prime Minister who 'won' a VoNC by the margin Johnson did would've resigned. Thatcher did, and Major had his personal limit. May was likewise ultimately forced out even though she won.
The rules should be clarified and improved. Something like: 15% of letters to trigger a vote. If the vote reveals at least (say) 35% have no confidence, then go to a second round allowing alternative leaders to stand (plus the incumbent PM). If the vote reveals >50%, then PM out, and another round of votes which the PM can't stand in.
If the Confidence vote is WON by the PM (either outright in round 1, or in round 2) then no further VONC for a year UNLESS Brady gets 50% letters.
The timescale should not be restricted to a year. No PM should ever have the 'luxury' of being safe for a year.
An old version of the rules did, of course, require a supermajority. That's what did for Thatcher.
Hugo Rifkind @hugorifkind · 3m The thing is, Cabinet ministers can't resign after that, after saying they wouldn't and even accepting promotions yesterday. Once you're craven, you're stuck being craven. They have Boris Johnson poisoning. There is no cure.
Come on, let it go. You don't want this to escalate until you get another sin bin.
Meh, if I'm off this site for good I don't much mind anymore, clearly the moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site.
Feel free to ban me, I'm good
"You don't agree with the moderation" != "he moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site"
I generally think the moderating team do a good job, with a relatively light hand.
(Mods: does this warrant a get-out-of-jail-free card?)
No I think banning me for using the c word and then not banning Leon is ridiculous. And the same for MoonRabbit who didn't do anything. Yet Leon is allowed to swear day after day.
I stand by what I said - but as a site which isn't democratic I also understand that I have a right to be kicked off. So if they want to kick me off for my views on it then that is also fine - or for anything else. I'll live.
For God’s sake man, I used an asterisk. I’ve told you umpteen times
The complete uncensored word will likely get you banned. That’s it. That’s the rule. Not complex
I'm not wanting to get embroiled in other people's arguments but putting an asterisk in there to get away with slinging swear words at someone is pure weaseling.
Anyway, Sajid is on his feet.
Its really not. Asterisks mean its not caught by bots that can have a material effect on advertising etc, that's why its a rule. Asterisks are socially acceptable.
In that case you can just swap the 'c' in 'c*nt' for a Cyrillic 'с' and the bots won't be butthurt.
Anyway, off to pick up my son from school. An early finish today.
Made me smile to be described as an 'old crone' and living in a 'Surrey semi'. If only the person in question knew
So it's all down to the 1922, isn't it? Unless Johnson goes to HMQ and asks for a dissolution. Crikey that would set the cat among the pigeons.
Working out a posters age etc from what they post is fun and not always accurate. @kinabalu posts about 25 years younger than he is, you apparently 25 years older...
We’re joining forces with @TheCrick! We will be setting up a research laboratory to bring together the world-renowned research institute’s expertise with machine learning and AI techniques to advance our understanding of biology.
Anyway, off to pick up my son from school. An early finish today.
Made me smile to be described as an 'old crone' and living in a 'Surrey semi'. If only the person in question knew
So it's all down to the 1922, isn't it? Unless Johnson goes to HMQ and asks for a dissolution. Crikey that would set the cat among the pigeons.
Working out a posters age etc from what they post is fun and not always accurate. @kinabalu posts about 25 years younger than he is, you apparently 25 years older...
Mr. JS, quite. Religious fanatics might get themselves off running onto racetracks and gluing themselves to artworks, but normal people want the lights to stay on.
Such a steady stream now that it must be becoming a real challenge to replace them. I suppose when Michael Fabricant is appointed, that will be a kind of four-minute warning.
In fact, is anyone keeping tabs on how many replacements Johnson has managed to find, outside the Cabinet?
As I see it, the big problem for Boris trying to brazen all this out Trump style, is that he has few serious supporters in the tory party or the wider population. People like Lee Anderson have just deserted him. He is down to Dorries and Rees Mogg. There is no polarisation in the conservative party that he can exploit, in the way that he did over Brexit. He just seems to be dying a slow and painful death. The longer the tories put off acting decisively over the situation, the worse it gets.
We’re joining forces with @TheCrick! We will be setting up a research laboratory to bring together the world-renowned research institute’s expertise with machine learning and AI techniques to advance our understanding of biology.
Come on, let it go. You don't want this to escalate until you get another sin bin.
Meh, if I'm off this site for good I don't much mind anymore, clearly the moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site.
Feel free to ban me, I'm good
"You don't agree with the moderation" != "he moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site"
I generally think the moderating team do a good job, with a relatively light hand.
(Mods: does this warrant a get-out-of-jail-free card?)
No I think banning me for using the c word and then not banning Leon is ridiculous. And the same for MoonRabbit who didn't do anything. Yet Leon is allowed to swear day after day.
I stand by what I said - but as a site which isn't democratic I also understand that I have a right to be kicked off. So if they want to kick me off for my views on it then that is also fine - or for anything else. I'll live.
For God’s sake man, I used an asterisk. I’ve told you umpteen times
The complete uncensored word will likely get you banned. That’s it. That’s the rule. Not complex
I'm not wanting to get embroiled in other people's arguments but putting an asterisk in there to get away with slinging swear words at someone is pure weaseling.
Anyway, Sajid is on his feet.
Says the spavined old crone that called me a “thoroughly nasty shit” [...]
PB is fun today
I didn't actually. I said you can be a thoroughly nasty shit to people on here. That's not at all the same thing as saying you are one.
p.s. I'm not going to raise again the issue of suicidal thoughts that you mentioned in a very heartfelt way.
x
[...]. You are fucking ridiculous
You can't help yourself, can you? You do this all the time: swearing at people, calling them unintelligent or worse, heaping opprobrium on people.
There's a difference between that and my critiquing your stance on things, albeit it is difficult to keep up with them when they shift around.
Play the ball not the player @Leon. You drag this site down and drive away many good people.
Jesus F Christ
I’m responding to a comment where you thought it was seemly to reference my suicidality thus:
“p.s. I'm not going to raise again the issue of suicidal thoughts that you mentioned in a very heartfelt way“
So, while pretending to not mention my suicidality you successfully mentioned it again, to needle and insult me. You’re a rancid hypocrite and you smell of cat food. I shall stop now before I lose my temper
His trouble is he just isn’t quite good enough as a public speaker to take the next step. He clearly wants to, but it’s not quite there. He won’t wear the crown.
The clown is also a poor platform speaker, if a good after dinner one
Can the Tory party get on with this please. Brady needs to change the rules tonight and get the vote done tomorrow.
I do wonder what has happened to the Tories. Say what you like about them, in years past they could always be relied upon efficiently and ruthlessly remove an unwanted PM.
These days, they make Labour look decisive.
Sir Graham Brady Old Lady needs to sort it out, PDQ.
Can the Tory party get on with this please. Brady needs to change the rules tonight and get the vote done tomorrow.
I do wonder what has happened to the Tories. Say what you like about them, in years past they could always be relied upon efficiently and ruthlessly remove an unwanted PM.
These days, they make Labour look decisive.
Sir Graham Brady Old Lady needs to sort it out, PDQ.
It isn't the party its the leader. Any other PM would have resigned before that PMQ having realised they could no carry on.
The rules are being revised because Johnson would not obey the old ones.
European Parliament Declares Nuclear Power and Gas As 'Green' Energy
Greta isn't going to be happy.
Nuclear power is green, but gas?
I'm not sure that in the long term, all nuclear can be classified as green. And a lot of biomass is anything but green. Such simplistic designations for whole categories of energy generation don't really work.
Come on, let it go. You don't want this to escalate until you get another sin bin.
Meh, if I'm off this site for good I don't much mind anymore, clearly the moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site.
Feel free to ban me, I'm good
"You don't agree with the moderation" != "he moderation team don't care about actually moderating the site"
I generally think the moderating team do a good job, with a relatively light hand.
(Mods: does this warrant a get-out-of-jail-free card?)
No I think banning me for using the c word and then not banning Leon is ridiculous. And the same for MoonRabbit who didn't do anything. Yet Leon is allowed to swear day after day.
I stand by what I said - but as a site which isn't democratic I also understand that I have a right to be kicked off. So if they want to kick me off for my views on it then that is also fine - or for anything else. I'll live.
For God’s sake man, I used an asterisk. I’ve told you umpteen times
The complete uncensored word will likely get you banned. That’s it. That’s the rule. Not complex
I'm not wanting to get embroiled in other people's arguments but putting an asterisk in there to get away with slinging swear words at someone is pure weaseling.
Anyway, Sajid is on his feet.
Says the spavined old crone that called me a “thoroughly nasty shit” [...]
PB is fun today
I didn't actually. I said you can be a thoroughly nasty shit to people on here. That's not at all the same thing as saying you are one.
p.s. I'm not going to raise again the issue of suicidal thoughts that you mentioned in a very heartfelt way.
x
[...]. You are fucking ridiculous
You can't help yourself, can you? You do this all the time: swearing at people, calling them unintelligent or worse, heaping opprobrium on people.
There's a difference between that and my critiquing your stance on things, albeit it is difficult to keep up with them when they shift around.
Play the ball not the player @Leon. You drag this site down and drive away many good people.
Jesus F Christ
I’m responding to a comment where you thought it was seemly to reference my suicidality thus:
“p.s. I'm not going to raise again the issue of suicidal thoughts that you mentioned in a very heartfelt way“
So, while pretending to not mention my suicidality you successfully mentioned it again, to needle and insult me. You’re a rancid hypocrite and you smell of cat food. I shall stop now before I lose my temper
I know its an exciting day. But can *everyone* take a breath?
Penny Mordaunt is now favourite with both the next PM and next Tory leader markets on Betfair Exchange. I think Starmer was favourite on next PM until a few days ago.
Do you think she should resign or stick with it? Maybe she can remain and be sufficiently distanced from Johnson.
If Javid was just a bit better of bullshitter, I mean public speaker, he might be a good replacement for the Tories. Good inspiring backstory and always been steady in the government roles he has held.
Just occurred to me that Penny Mordaunt could mess up Labour's well-known advantage with women voters. Especially if she makes a big deal out of things like female-only spaces, while Starmer and Labour prevaricate on the subject.
Penny Mordaunt is now favourite with both the next PM and next Tory leader markets on Betfair Exchange. I think Starmer was favourite on next PM until a few days ago.
Do you think she should resign or stick with it? Maybe she can remain and be sufficiently distanced from Johnson.
She is very distanced. No messages of support, openly campaigning for Government policy changes from within the Government, no opportunistic grab for promotion (possibly not offered, possibly wisely declined).
Anyway, off to pick up my son from school. An early finish today.
Made me smile to be described as an 'old crone' and living in a 'Surrey semi'. If only the person in question knew
So it's all down to the 1922, isn't it? Unless Johnson goes to HMQ and asks for a dissolution. Crikey that would set the cat among the pigeons.
Working out a posters age etc from what they post is fun and not always accurate. @kinabalu posts about 25 years younger than he is, you apparently 25 years older...
That's a brilliant post.
Kindly note that if I post 25 years older, my PB self will be just about ready for a telegram from the PB Queen.
Penny Mordaunt is now favourite with both the next PM and next Tory leader markets on Betfair Exchange. I think Starmer was favourite on next PM until a few days ago.
Do you think she should resign or stick with it? Maybe she can remain and be sufficiently distanced from Johnson.
She'll probably do and say nothing for the moment.
Can the Tory party get on with this please. Brady needs to change the rules tonight and get the vote done tomorrow.
I do wonder what has happened to the Tories. Say what you like about them, in years past they could always be relied upon efficiently and ruthlessly remove an unwanted PM.
These days, they make Labour look decisive.
Sir Graham Brady Old Lady needs to sort it out, PDQ.
Nothing they can do. the system always depended on a sense of shame and decency.
European Parliament Declares Nuclear Power and Gas As 'Green' Energy
Greta isn't going to be happy.
Nuclear power is green, but gas?
I'm not sure that in the long term, all nuclear can be classified as green. And a lot of biomass is anything but green. Such simplistic designations for whole categories of energy generation don't really work.
The argument was actually (to a large degree) about German politics. If nuclear is “allowed” as Green, then the German position on how Green their economy is vs other European countries doesn’t look that good. Counting nuclear as “ungreen” makes France look a lot worse.
European Parliament Declares Nuclear Power and Gas As 'Green' Energy
Greta isn't going to be happy.
Nuclear power is green, but gas?
I'm not sure that in the long term, all nuclear can be classified as green. And a lot of biomass is anything but green. Such simplistic designations for whole categories of energy generation don't really work.
'green' is a continuum. There is probably no truly 'green' energy source (perhaps not even the Sun). But we might say that well-managed nuclear is 'greener' than well-managed gas, and that is 'greener' than well-managed coal.
And well-managed wind is 'greener' than well-managed nuclear, etc, etc.
There's not much value in previous rebels declaring they want him to go.
Gove probably lacks the moral authority because he said Boris wasn’t up to it before, then had a conversion and saw the light. So who can deliver the fatal blow? We know the likes of Mogg and Dorries will stay loyal because any other PM would send them to the back benches, so it has to be someone with a future. Needs to be Truss or Wallace.
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p.s. I'm not going to raise again the issue of suicidal thoughts that you mentioned in a very heartfelt way.
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Decent speech, poorly delivered.
Johnson sees a G-string.
Johnson calls a snap election, wins it, but loses his own seat in Uxbridge.
Does he govern the country from the House of Lords?
I mean, anyone who appointed Dorries as a Secretary of State is clearly already scraping the bottom of the barrel, but that’s still just about inside the barrel. He might now have pushed through the bottom. After all, why would you accept a Government job today? Don’t say no, just don’t answer the phone.
(((Dan Hodges)))
@DPJHodges
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Sajid Javid just delivered the coup de grace.
You dish out abuse and insults, then you get conniptions when anyone takes offence and does it back to you, then within the hour you vomit up platitudes about us all being “nice to each other”. You are fucking ridiculous
Greta isn't going to be happy.
Made me smile to be described as an 'old crone' and living in a 'Surrey semi'. If only the person in question knew
So it's all down to the 1922, isn't it? Unless Johnson goes to HMQ and asks for a dissolution. Crikey that would set the cat among the pigeons.
Trouble is, as I understand it - and I was told this by @Mysticrose - you can apparently create “another” account and continue posting. I’ve no idea if this is the case
There's a difference between that and my critiquing your stance on things, albeit it is difficult to keep up with them when they shift around.
Play the ball not the player @Leon. You drag this site down and drive away many good people.
Turns out I'm wrong - Major had an impacted wisdom tooth extracted.
https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/1544650896205877248
https://twitter.com/DeepMind/status/1544641653692063745?s=20&t=mXEpQN5l9H1r9c92WNfNOg
Out by Monday night?
I bought two bags of popcorn earlier. Mainly for my son but I might have to dip in
Stay well folks. Be nice to one another ... please.
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These days, they make Labour look decisive.
Sir Graham Brady Old Lady needs to sort it out, PDQ.
@hugorifkind
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The thing is, Cabinet ministers can't resign after that, after saying they wouldn't and even accepting promotions yesterday. Once you're craven, you're stuck being craven. They have Boris Johnson poisoning. There is no cure.
Worth catching?
In fact, is anyone keeping tabs on how many replacements Johnson has managed to find, outside the Cabinet?
I’m responding to a comment where you thought it was seemly to reference my suicidality thus:
“p.s. I'm not going to raise again the issue of suicidal thoughts that you mentioned in a very heartfelt way“
So, while pretending to not mention my suicidality you successfully mentioned it again, to needle and insult me. You’re a rancid hypocrite and you smell of cat food. I shall stop now before I lose my temper
The 1922 committee need to act now and help rid the country of the Johnson virus .
It isn't the party its the leader. Any other PM would have resigned before that PMQ having realised they could no carry on.
The rules are being revised because Johnson would not obey the old ones.
Nasty stuff.
https://twitter.com/TheMichaelMoran/status/1544653104397819904
Kindly note that if I post 25 years older, my PB self will be just about ready for a telegram from the PB Queen.
Although, he could be prevailed upon to change his mind. If the PM wanted to....
Which is something no one has ever said of anything Boris has opined on.
PM will contest a confidence vote if one is called
https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1544653249738948611
So we're waiting on either the 1922, or Gove making a move, I think.
And well-managed wind is 'greener' than well-managed nuclear, etc, etc.