One of Johnson's many flaws is that he has surrounded himself with pygmies so as to avoid threats to his position. The worry has to be that one of them (Patel!) could replace him. Mordaunt has gone very quiet but she could impress in a leadership contest.
I can't see Patel getting into the top two in the Parliamentary party first round. Mordaunt is a lot more likely
I'm on Mordaunt at good odds. Can easily see her emerging as the choice.
Do all candidates have to appear like this or just the female ones
A brilliant artist, but I can't help but think his energy would be better directed at crafting a vast sculpture to the Ukrainian spirit....
I agree, but that might not go down too well with the current government of his new nationality. I'm afraid that many British intellectuals have an exaggerated view of the deficiencies of Britain and far too rosy a view of other Western European countries. Afd (well to the right of UKIP) is polling above maximum UKIP support and the current German chancellor has behaved abominably with respect to Ukraine.
Negative Nationalism has been the default position for “intellectuals” since the Napoleonic Wars.
If you are of that view, then surely they were moaning about negative anti-British intellectuals *before* that. Atd the time of the French Revolution. At the time of the English Revolution, come to think of it ...
And yet, if that were true, we’d be seeing polling as happened to Major’s government in the mid 90s, with Blair’s Labour 20 points ahead
We’re not seeing that. What we see is a standard mid term poll lead for an opposition facing a tired government
I hate to drop the B-bomb word so liberally, but I suggest a lot of this anger at Boris and the Tories is actually sublimated Remoaner angst and loathing of Leaver Boris, but this time channeled through a new rage at his partying frivolity
I’m not defending him, btw, it IS time for him to eff off
As we saw in Australia, it may not be the main opposition which kills the Conservatives next time but the leeching of votes to minor parties (LDs, Greens, Independents).
There's also the truth many people will vote against the Conservatives next time and it will be a question of where and how that anti-Conservative vote is maximised.
Yes, I can easily see that happening. And dumping Boris may not be enough to stop this. I sense the British public are just BORED of the Tory party (leaving aside Partygate and Boris and Brexit)
I know I am bored of them
It’s bored with, not of.
If only you had more experience of using written English, you’d have known that already.
As I have constantly told you, I am but a humble knapper of erotic flints. You should therefore not be surprised if I do not show the verbal flair of, say, a writer of international bestsellers
The mystery is why you do not even show the written (“verbal” is another mistake) flair of a writer of trashy bus station fiction?
I’m guessing the suggestion above that you’re already on the bottle is sadly on the money.
Verbal relates to the use of words both written and oral.
No it doesn't. Verbal specifically relates to spoken, oral communication.
Your confusion may stem from the fact that non-verbal communication does not include writing but this is an oddity of the English language as non-verbal means neither spoken or written whereas verbal specifically means spoken.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
She also not only participated in that risible ‘Leadsom for Leader’ march on Westminster - which turned out to be illegal as they never got police permission - but she was the bright spark whose idea it was in the first place!
Oh dear, that's pretty slim pickings isn't it? Gonna have to do a bit better than that.
Maybe she participated in the shooting down of MH17? Because you seem to think dear Russia is innocent and someone did it.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
She also not only participated in that risible ‘Leadsom for Leader’ march on Westminster - which turned out to be illegal as they never got police permission - but she was the bright spark whose idea it was in the first place!
Oh dear, that's pretty slim pickings isn't it? Gonna have to do a bit better than that.
Maybe she participated in the shooting down of MH17? Because you seem to think dear Russia is innocent and someone did it.
One of Johnson's many flaws is that he has surrounded himself with pygmies so as to avoid threats to his position. The worry has to be that one of them (Patel!) could replace him. Mordaunt has gone very quiet but she could impress in a leadership contest.
I can't see Patel getting into the top two in the Parliamentary party first round. Mordaunt is a lot more likely
I'm on Mordaunt at good odds. Can easily see her emerging as the choice.
Do all candidates have to appear like this or just the female ones
“I’m embarrassed about Brexit: it’s a practical disaster, a betrayal of my parents’ and grandparents’ sacrifice to make a Europe that was not going to be divided again. It’s a tragedy,”
.
I have no issue with people changing nationalities if they do not like what their present nation is doing, including over Brexit, but it does seem a bit much to suggest not being part of the EU is a betrayal of parents and grandparents as if everyone had been fighting explicitly for the intent of creating a supranational institution.
Brexit was, in my view, a mistake that I contributed to, but there is a difference between 'divided to the point of war' and 'not all being part of the EU'.
People also cannot seem to make up their minds if it was a betrayal of the older generation (even though the majority of those voted for it) or a betrayal of the younger generation. It could be they think it was both, but mentioning one only seems to suggest this person does not think that.
Absolutely so
He could have said “I don’t like Brexit, I disagree with it, I believe it is an error, but the British people were free to choose as they did. However I will now take up German citizenship, as it my right, so I can retain my European citizenship and my Freedom of Movement”
But he didn’t say that. He’s gone way way further and is, in effect, saying Brexit was a sin or a crime - or both. Morally wrong. Should not have been allowed. Which is absurd. It was a choice to exit a quasi Federal union, as was our right under Article 50 of the fucking EU Constitution which they immorally forced on us, so fuck em. And him. I’m going to push over one off his stupid statues when and if I ever get home
*knocks back more Tsinandali wine in his Georgian park*
God Leon, give your liver a rest.
I hardly drink, and i'm having to take liver tests atm.
You clearly missed the Times article which said people that drink “two bottles of wine a day” are healthier, happier and longer lived than teetotallers and modest drinkers. I took it as a cue to up my consumption by about a quarter of a bottle a day, so as to hit the target
That would explain me being as healthy as a butcher's dog
I've felt like crap since I stopped drinking heavily.
Have your thumbs gone weird?
Nothing works any more. I'm a wretch
I hope more of you works than I’ve got left. Two almost useless hands, a dodgy ankle and dreadful balance. Typing with one finger!
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news - but it may be your best windsurfing days are behind you....
LOL. Inability there is the least of my worries! Not sure I could walk to the beach! About to trade my E-bike in for one of those electric buggies.
They should at least get a Jimmy Savile impersonator to announce this.
I learned recently that ‘nonce’ is an acronym. It comes from Wakefield Prison. For their own safety, child sex offenders aren’t allowed mix with the general prison population, so their cells were marked ‘Not on normal courtyard exercise’.
Every day’s a school day.
Ah interesting. Nonce is used in cryptography as the name for a random string that is used as a one-off so that both ends of the communication can see that they encrypt the nonce to the same value, using the encryption keys, which they don't have to exchange. Always a bit weird to put "nonce" into an http authentication header when you know the secondary British meaning for the word.
A friend of mine designed one of the first Bitcoin mining chips. For some bizarre reason, it was called The Golden Nonce.
Is it pronounced 'N - once' though? That would fit with single time only use.
It is indeed short for number once but it is pronounced without any spacing, so just like the normal word.
Let's not forget the incredibly unfortunate (and short lived) crypto company, Nonce Finance.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
On the Gormley nationality discussion, has it been noted that it is possible to have both German and UK dual nationality. I'm not sure that the story has excluded this possibility. If this is the case he is doing what multitudes of people have done and are doing - having the best of all worlds (while slagging UK and Brexit in this case).
NB Not often (ever) I get 2nd and 4th e/w in the Derby, at 150s and 80s. Did this time.
Wow. That's much better than backing the winner at 5/2. I am struggling to find my range with the flat so far this year. Loser after loser. Unlike me. I think it's something to do with the pandemic. I lost interest and now I'm up for it again I've forgotten how to do it.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
PS There is an obvious reason for their advocacy of homoeopathy for the NHS. One pill - one pill - of each drug would be sufficient for all the drug courses of all the patients on the NHS. A few tanker loads of distilled water, some mechanised succussators, and bob's your uncle, or aunt. Cue further spending cuts ...
Mind, at the moment anyone downstream of about Oxford must be getting heavy homoeopathic doses of just about every drug known to science in their tea, coffee, and ice already, given where the tap water comes from. Which consideration means that I am extremely sceptical of any claims for homoepathy, once one discounts the very real effects of placebo and of simply not taking the kinds of drugs Victorian doctors liked to prescribe (and tbf modern drugs also have their problems).
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Perhaps they believe that Conservatism when diluted x 1,000,000 in sanctimony will heal the country
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
They should at least get a Jimmy Savile impersonator to announce this.
I learned recently that ‘nonce’ is an acronym. It comes from Wakefield Prison. For their own safety, child sex offenders aren’t allowed mix with the general prison population, so their cells were marked ‘Not on normal courtyard exercise’.
Every day’s a school day.
Ah interesting. Nonce is used in cryptography as the name for a random string that is used as a one-off so that both ends of the communication can see that they encrypt the nonce to the same value, using the encryption keys, which they don't have to exchange. Always a bit weird to put "nonce" into an http authentication header when you know the secondary British meaning for the word.
A friend of mine designed one of the first Bitcoin mining chips. For some bizarre reason, it was called The Golden Nonce.
Is it pronounced 'N - once' though? That would fit with single time only use.
It is indeed short for number once but it is pronounced without any spacing, so just like the normal word.
Let's not forget the incredibly unfortunate (and short lived) crypto company, Nonce Finance.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
There's a shortage of tact in these parts these last few years. Brexit-related, you understand.
One of Johnson's many flaws is that he has surrounded himself with pygmies so as to avoid threats to his position. The worry has to be that one of them (Patel!) could replace him. Mordaunt has gone very quiet but she could impress in a leadership contest.
I can't see Patel getting into the top two in the Parliamentary party first round. Mordaunt is a lot more likely
I'm on Mordaunt at good odds. Can easily see her emerging as the choice.
Do all candidates have to appear like this or just the female ones
And it’s exactly what the British People want to hear of their place in this world, and she is so persuasive how she explains these things.
Take that HY, if you think the Big Dog as he has made himself today can possibly compete with a PM Mourdant.
The Establishment will be terrified of course because she went to
*shudder*
Reading University.....
What's wrong with that? Quite a nice campus with an agricultural and yokelry museum attached. Some serious stuff there. Makes a change from the usual art galleries.
Genuinely, I want to know, do the Tories have an election winner left?
All politics, like football, is relative. You always get a result however bad they are. For the Tories to win all it takes is for Labour to (sufficiently) lose. You don't have to deserve to win to win. The Tories still, IMHO, have a approx 45% chance of forming the next government, and can do this under a number of leaders.
They will do best to approach the leadership and election on the basis that though winnable it's a good one to lose and appoint a truly decent person as leader with and eye on 2028 or thereabouts. If they did the right thing for its own sake they might even get lucky.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
There's a shortage of tact in these parts these last few years. Brexit-related, you understand.
They should at least get a Jimmy Savile impersonator to announce this.
I learned recently that ‘nonce’ is an acronym. It comes from Wakefield Prison. For their own safety, child sex offenders aren’t allowed mix with the general prison population, so their cells were marked ‘Not on normal courtyard exercise’.
Every day’s a school day.
Ah interesting. Nonce is used in cryptography as the name for a random string that is used as a one-off so that both ends of the communication can see that they encrypt the nonce to the same value, using the encryption keys, which they don't have to exchange. Always a bit weird to put "nonce" into an http authentication header when you know the secondary British meaning for the word.
A friend of mine designed one of the first Bitcoin mining chips. For some bizarre reason, it was called The Golden Nonce.
Is it pronounced 'N - once' though? That would fit with single time only use.
It is indeed short for number once but it is pronounced without any spacing, so just like the normal word.
Let's not forget the incredibly unfortunate (and short lived) crypto company, Nonce Finance.
They should at least get a Jimmy Savile impersonator to announce this.
I learned recently that ‘nonce’ is an acronym. It comes from Wakefield Prison. For their own safety, child sex offenders aren’t allowed mix with the general prison population, so their cells were marked ‘Not on normal courtyard exercise’.
Every day’s a school day.
Ah interesting. Nonce is used in cryptography as the name for a random string that is used as a one-off so that both ends of the communication can see that they encrypt the nonce to the same value, using the encryption keys, which they don't have to exchange. Always a bit weird to put "nonce" into an http authentication header when you know the secondary British meaning for the word.
A friend of mine designed one of the first Bitcoin mining chips. For some bizarre reason, it was called The Golden Nonce.
Is it pronounced 'N - once' though? That would fit with single time only use.
It is indeed short for number once but it is pronounced without any spacing, so just like the normal word.
Let's not forget the incredibly unfortunate (and short lived) crypto company, Nonce Finance.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
Do we have a market on whether a Regency will be declared?
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Perhaps they believe that Conservatism when diluted x 1,000,000 in sanctimony will heal the country
Currently, conservatism is certainly in undetectable quantities in the current government. The Conservative Party is in one of the "smirking ghouls and predatory sex pests" phases of its life-cycle right now. But the sensible wing will be back. Eventually.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
My guess is he has wanted it sooo long he is taking every health precaution in the book, egged on by cams who has no intention of peaking at dowager duchess of C. Have you remembered your statins darling?
On the Gormley nationality discussion, has it been noted that it is possible to have both German and UK dual nationality. I'm not sure that the story has excluded this possibility. If this is the case he is doing what multitudes of people have done and are doing - having the best of all worlds (while slagging UK and Brexit in this case).
NB Not often (ever) I get 2nd and 4th e/w in the Derby, at 150s and 80s. Did this time.
Wow. That's much better than backing the winner at 5/2. I am struggling to find my range with the flat so far this year. Loser after loser. Unlike me. I think it's something to do with the pandemic. I lost interest and now I'm up for it again I've forgotten how to do it.
Pure luck I'm sorry to say. I got a feeling the the Derby would be open to long shots this year because of a feeling that top class was thin and that the laggards weren't as much less good as the odds suggested.
I thought Desert Crown would win, but at the price I wasn't going in. Didn't fancy the other front runners.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
My guess is he has wanted it sooo long he is taking every health precaution in the book, egged on by cams who has no intention of peaking at dowager duchess of C. Have you remembered your statins darling?
You're probably right. As long as he's taking the tablets and getting a regular empty, he'll be fine.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
Do we have a market on whether a Regency will be declared?
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
No idea how those things are rationalised. The last time was George III, wasn't it? He was very much out of it mentally, with the porphyria or whatever it was that he had. But I've not heard anyone claim that HMtQ isn't all there mentally. The ceremonial stuff can be dumped on the younger members of the RF (as, indeed, today). They didn't exactly have Zoom meetings when Farmer George was around, either.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
Do we have a market on whether a Regency will be declared?
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
I'm no doctor but I think the vitals are still pretty solid.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
She also not only participated in that risible ‘Leadsom for Leader’ march on Westminster - which turned out to be illegal as they never got police permission - but she was the bright spark whose idea it was in the first place!
Oh dear, that's pretty slim pickings isn't it? Gonna have to do a bit better than that.
Trouble is there are fairly slim pickings on the credit side too. She seems pleasant and professional, certainly. But failing to stand in the last couple of leadership elections doesn’t imply killer instinct, and I’m not aware of anything very specific that Mordaunt stands for, rightly or wrongly.
I met her a few months ago and thought “yes, she seems to know what she’s talking about” but didn’t get the sense of someone with a burning desire to be PM.
There are generally slim pickings out there which is why they need a lengthy period of time in opposition. Hunt is okay. Javid would steady the ship. I still Harper is the strongest of the underdogs.
They should at least get a Jimmy Savile impersonator to announce this.
I learned recently that ‘nonce’ is an acronym. It comes from Wakefield Prison. For their own safety, child sex offenders aren’t allowed mix with the general prison population, so their cells were marked ‘Not on normal courtyard exercise’.
Every day’s a school day.
Ah interesting. Nonce is used in cryptography as the name for a random string that is used as a one-off so that both ends of the communication can see that they encrypt the nonce to the same value, using the encryption keys, which they don't have to exchange. Always a bit weird to put "nonce" into an http authentication header when you know the secondary British meaning for the word.
A friend of mine designed one of the first Bitcoin mining chips. For some bizarre reason, it was called The Golden Nonce.
Is it pronounced 'N - once' though? That would fit with single time only use.
It is indeed short for number once but it is pronounced without any spacing, so just like the normal word.
Let's not forget the incredibly unfortunate (and short lived) crypto company, Nonce Finance.
That's actually a fascinating story, and not just the catastrophic marketing, but upsetting Thames Water badly:
'Unsurprisingly, after a 2004 article in The Grocer casually mentioned the tap water source of Dasani water, the wider media was soon whipped up into a frenzy. Among other things, Coca-Cola’s audacity in this situation was humourously compared to the plot of an episode of the popular British sitcom Only Fools and Horses, in which the main characters attempt to bottle and then sell tap water from Peckham for an exorbitant markup via marketing it as “Peckham Spring”. It should be noted here that Sidcup, where Dasani water in the UK was sourced, is only about ten kilometres from Peckham.
Things continued to go wrong for Coke when they launched their online marketing campaign and began advertising Dasani as being “full of spunk”, “Bottled spunk”, and that you “Can’t live without spunk“, [...] … This was even more humourous given that many of the advertising images featured models, who apparently never learned to drink water properly, splashing Dasani all over their faces.'
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
Do we have a market on whether a Regency will be declared?
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
No idea how those things are rationalised. The last time was George III, wasn't it? He was very much out of it mentally, with the porphyria or whatever it was that he had. But I've not heard anyone claim that HMtQ isn't all there mentally. The ceremonial stuff can be dumped on the younger members of the RF (as, indeed, today). They didn't exactly have Zoom meetings when Farmer George was around, either.
Historically the English - as opposed to the Scots - have been very chary about declaring regencies. They didn’t even declare one in 1483 (although it wouldn’t have made much difference) or in 1454. Only in 1811, and then reluctantly.
But if Her Maj is immobilised in Windsor then surely it would be better for Charles to do all the necessary constitutional stuff, e.g meeting the PM, reading papers, signing laws and meeting ambassadors? And I believe that would require a Regency under the current law.
It would spoil her record of the longest reigning monarch never to have a regent, but that’s not really the key consideration.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
Do we have a market on whether a Regency will be declared?
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
Doesn't that give sweaty nonceboi a role as things stand?
On the Gormley nationality discussion, has it been noted that it is possible to have both German and UK dual nationality. I'm not sure that the story has excluded this possibility. If this is the case he is doing what multitudes of people have done and are doing - having the best of all worlds (while slagging UK and Brexit in this case).
NB Not often (ever) I get 2nd and 4th e/w in the Derby, at 150s and 80s. Did this time.
Wow. That's much better than backing the winner at 5/2. I am struggling to find my range with the flat so far this year. Loser after loser. Unlike me. I think it's something to do with the pandemic. I lost interest and now I'm up for it again I've forgotten how to do it.
Pure luck I'm sorry to say. I got a feeling the the Derby would be open to long shots this year because of a feeling that top class was thin and that the laggards weren't as much less good as the odds suggested.
I thought Desert Crown would win, but at the price I wasn't going in. Didn't fancy the other front runners.
The guarantee is that it won't work next time.
That doesn't sound like luck. With the fav reasoning you were actually close to the sort of trifecta that would have got you in the tabloids.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
Do we have a market on whether a Regency will be declared?
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
No idea how those things are rationalised. The last time was George III, wasn't it? He was very much out of it mentally, with the porphyria or whatever it was that he had. But I've not heard anyone claim that HMtQ isn't all there mentally. The ceremonial stuff can be dumped on the younger members of the RF (as, indeed, today). They didn't exactly have Zoom meetings when Farmer George was around, either.
Historically the English - as opposed to the Scots - have been very chary about declaring regencies. They didn’t even declare one in 1483 (although it wouldn’t have made much difference) or in 1454. Only in 1811, and then reluctantly.
But if Her Maj is immobilised in Windsor then surely it would be better for Charles to do all the necessary constitutional stuff, e.g meeting the PM, reading papers, signing laws and meeting ambassadors? And I believe that would require a Regency under the current law.
It would spoil her record of the longest reigning monarch never to have a regent, but that’s not really the key consideration.
Isn't she the longest serving monarch without the qualification "never to have a regent"?
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
Do we have a market on whether a Regency will be declared?
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
No idea how those things are rationalised. The last time was George III, wasn't it? He was very much out of it mentally, with the porphyria or whatever it was that he had. But I've not heard anyone claim that HMtQ isn't all there mentally. The ceremonial stuff can be dumped on the younger members of the RF (as, indeed, today). They didn't exactly have Zoom meetings when Farmer George was around, either.
Historically the English - as opposed to the Scots - have been very chary about declaring regencies. They didn’t even declare one in 1483 (although it wouldn’t have made much difference) or in 1454. Only in 1811, and then reluctantly.
But if Her Maj is immobilised in Windsor then surely it would be better for Charles to do all the necessary constitutional stuff, e.g meeting the PM, reading papers, signing laws and meeting ambassadors? And I believe that would require a Regency under the current law.
It would spoil her record of the longest reigning monarch never to have a regent, but that’s not really the key consideration.
Isn't she the longest serving monarch without the qualification "never to have a regent"?
No - two ahead of her. The last King of Thailand and Louis the Sun King.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
Do we have a market on whether a Regency will be declared?
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
No idea how those things are rationalised. The last time was George III, wasn't it? He was very much out of it mentally, with the porphyria or whatever it was that he had. But I've not heard anyone claim that HMtQ isn't all there mentally. The ceremonial stuff can be dumped on the younger members of the RF (as, indeed, today). They didn't exactly have Zoom meetings when Farmer George was around, either.
Historically the English - as opposed to the Scots - have been very chary about declaring regencies. They didn’t even declare one in 1483 (although it wouldn’t have made much difference) or in 1454. Only in 1811, and then reluctantly.
But if Her Maj is immobilised in Windsor then surely it would be better for Charles to do all the necessary constitutional stuff, e.g meeting the PM, reading papers, signing laws and meeting ambassadors? And I believe that would require a Regency under the current law.
It would spoil her record of the longest reigning monarch never to have a regent, but that’s not really the key consideration.
Isn't she the longest serving monarch without the qualification "never to have a regent"?
No - two ahead of her. The last King of Thailand and Louis the Sun King.
Oh, I didn't realise we were talking internationally here.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
Do we have a market on whether a Regency will be declared?
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
No idea how those things are rationalised. The last time was George III, wasn't it? He was very much out of it mentally, with the porphyria or whatever it was that he had. But I've not heard anyone claim that HMtQ isn't all there mentally. The ceremonial stuff can be dumped on the younger members of the RF (as, indeed, today). They didn't exactly have Zoom meetings when Farmer George was around, either.
Historically the English - as opposed to the Scots - have been very chary about declaring regencies. They didn’t even declare one in 1483 (although it wouldn’t have made much difference) or in 1454. Only in 1811, and then reluctantly.
But if Her Maj is immobilised in Windsor then surely it would be better for Charles to do all the necessary constitutional stuff, e.g meeting the PM, reading papers, signing laws and meeting ambassadors? And I believe that would require a Regency under the current law.
It would spoil her record of the longest reigning monarch never to have a regent, but that’s not really the key consideration.
Is that not what they have some sort of special rank of person, some archaic name, for? ISTR that e.g. the D of Y is one (presumably this is the point which IshmaelZ has already made).
They should at least get a Jimmy Savile impersonator to announce this.
I learned recently that ‘nonce’ is an acronym. It comes from Wakefield Prison. For their own safety, child sex offenders aren’t allowed mix with the general prison population, so their cells were marked ‘Not on normal courtyard exercise’.
Every day’s a school day.
Ah interesting. Nonce is used in cryptography as the name for a random string that is used as a one-off so that both ends of the communication can see that they encrypt the nonce to the same value, using the encryption keys, which they don't have to exchange. Always a bit weird to put "nonce" into an http authentication header when you know the secondary British meaning for the word.
A friend of mine designed one of the first Bitcoin mining chips. For some bizarre reason, it was called The Golden Nonce.
Is it pronounced 'N - once' though? That would fit with single time only use.
It is indeed short for number once but it is pronounced without any spacing, so just like the normal word.
Let's not forget the incredibly unfortunate (and short lived) crypto company, Nonce Finance.
That's actually a fascinating story, and not just the catastrophic marketing, but upsetting Thames Water badly:
'Unsurprisingly, after a 2004 article in The Grocer casually mentioned the tap water source of Dasani water, the wider media was soon whipped up into a frenzy. Among other things, Coca-Cola’s audacity in this situation was humourously compared to the plot of an episode of the popular British sitcom Only Fools and Horses, in which the main characters attempt to bottle and then sell tap water from Peckham for an exorbitant markup via marketing it as “Peckham Spring”. It should be noted here that Sidcup, where Dasani water in the UK was sourced, is only about ten kilometres from Peckham.
Things continued to go wrong for Coke when they launched their online marketing campaign and began advertising Dasani as being “full of spunk”, “Bottled spunk”, and that you “Can’t live without spunk“, [...] … This was even more humourous given that many of the advertising images featured models, who apparently never learned to drink water properly, splashing Dasani all over their faces.'
The interesting thing is that it would only have taken about 5 seconds to find out that that particular slogan probably wasn't going to work in the UK.
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
Do we have a market on whether a Regency will be declared?
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
No idea how those things are rationalised. The last time was George III, wasn't it? He was very much out of it mentally, with the porphyria or whatever it was that he had. But I've not heard anyone claim that HMtQ isn't all there mentally. The ceremonial stuff can be dumped on the younger members of the RF (as, indeed, today). They didn't exactly have Zoom meetings when Farmer George was around, either.
Historically the English - as opposed to the Scots - have been very chary about declaring regencies. They didn’t even declare one in 1483 (although it wouldn’t have made much difference) or in 1454. Only in 1811, and then reluctantly.
But if Her Maj is immobilised in Windsor then surely it would be better for Charles to do all the necessary constitutional stuff, e.g meeting the PM, reading papers, signing laws and meeting ambassadors? And I believe that would require a Regency under the current law.
It would spoil her record of the longest reigning monarch never to have a regent, but that’s not really the key consideration.
Isn't she the longest serving monarch without the qualification "never to have a regent"?
It is the year 2067, and as the Earthite Alliance of Humanoid Droids guided by Official Death God GPT68 fires hypersonic Inviso-Jesus infra-sad missiles at the Lost Cathedral of Parallel Proxima Fuckauri 9, dominated by its Bkkrprprk mono-president VVVVVVVrrpptywoo 3X7Musk Dalle900 WhoahBump, on PB,.com, @Scott_xP cuts and pastes a tweet that finally throws Brexit in a bad light
Genuinely, I want to know, do the Tories have an election winner left?
Rishi seems like the only possible choice. He might be too rich but compared with the others who are too crooked evil or stupid that's not too big a hindrance. I know Johnson tried to cripple him but that might not turn out to be too bad a thing in that he can legitimately go after him no holes barred.
It is the year 2067, and as the Earthite Alliance of Humanoid Droids guided by Official Death God GPT68 fires hypersonic Inviso-Jesus infra-sad missiles at the Lost Cathedral of Parallel Proxima Fuckauri 9, dominated by its Bkkrprprk mono-president VVVVVVVrrpptywoo 3X7Musk Dalle900 WhoahBump, on PB,.com, @Scott_xP cuts and pastes a tweet that finally throws Brexit in a bad light
SeanT reincarnates on PB. Again. Still voted for this shitshow...
Mourdant would clearly be an improvement on Johnson but she was a Cameronite under Cameron, a Mayite under May and now a Loserite under Johnson
What does she believe? Why is she different to the last thirteen years of Tory failure?
And, apparently, homeopathy. That's the second homeopathy believer I've heard of in the ranks of Conservative MPs in as many days. Is there a trend here?
Mr Tredinnick, lately MP, would also qualify (so to speak). As\ would the next (presumably) Head of the C of E, and Monarch of etc etc.
Am I the only one who thinks it's far from inevitable that Chuckie W will still be around when Betty finally dries up completely? He could well be chatting to plants in the Great Arboretum of Beyond whilst she's still shuffling around.
Apparently it is considered tactless by some on PB to raise such issues, let alone open a book, but it did occur to me the other day in passing, given their ages and genders and statistics ...
Do we have a market on whether a Regency will be declared?
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
No idea how those things are rationalised. The last time was George III, wasn't it? He was very much out of it mentally, with the porphyria or whatever it was that he had. But I've not heard anyone claim that HMtQ isn't all there mentally. The ceremonial stuff can be dumped on the younger members of the RF (as, indeed, today). They didn't exactly have Zoom meetings when Farmer George was around, either.
Historically the English - as opposed to the Scots - have been very chary about declaring regencies. They didn’t even declare one in 1483 (although it wouldn’t have made much difference) or in 1454. Only in 1811, and then reluctantly.
But if Her Maj is immobilised in Windsor then surely it would be better for Charles to do all the necessary constitutional stuff, e.g meeting the PM, reading papers, signing laws and meeting ambassadors? And I believe that would require a Regency under the current law.
It would spoil her record of the longest reigning monarch never to have a regent, but that’s not really the key consideration.
Is that not what they have some sort of special rank of person, some archaic name, for? ISTR that e.g. the D of Y is one (presumably this is the point which IshmaelZ has already made).
Counsellors of State - but that's different from a regent. The former act in temporary absence or incapacity, the latter in a permanent incapacity. And a regent has their own counsellors of state.
A poll by JL Partners, shatters that narrative. It puts Labour 20 points clear of the Conservatives in Wakefield and shows that voters are blaming Johnson. Tory internal polling also suggests that a “disastrous” loss is on the cards.
They should at least get a Jimmy Savile impersonator to announce this.
I learned recently that ‘nonce’ is an acronym. It comes from Wakefield Prison. For their own safety, child sex offenders aren’t allowed mix with the general prison population, so their cells were marked ‘Not on normal courtyard exercise’.
Every day’s a school day.
Ah interesting. Nonce is used in cryptography as the name for a random string that is used as a one-off so that both ends of the communication can see that they encrypt the nonce to the same value, using the encryption keys, which they don't have to exchange. Always a bit weird to put "nonce" into an http authentication header when you know the secondary British meaning for the word.
A friend of mine designed one of the first Bitcoin mining chips. For some bizarre reason, it was called The Golden Nonce.
Is it pronounced 'N - once' though? That would fit with single time only use.
It is indeed short for number once but it is pronounced without any spacing, so just like the normal word.
Let's not forget the incredibly unfortunate (and short lived) crypto company, Nonce Finance.
That's actually a fascinating story, and not just the catastrophic marketing, but upsetting Thames Water badly:
'Unsurprisingly, after a 2004 article in The Grocer casually mentioned the tap water source of Dasani water, the wider media was soon whipped up into a frenzy. Among other things, Coca-Cola’s audacity in this situation was humourously compared to the plot of an episode of the popular British sitcom Only Fools and Horses, in which the main characters attempt to bottle and then sell tap water from Peckham for an exorbitant markup via marketing it as “Peckham Spring”. It should be noted here that Sidcup, where Dasani water in the UK was sourced, is only about ten kilometres from Peckham.
Things continued to go wrong for Coke when they launched their online marketing campaign and began advertising Dasani as being “full of spunk”, “Bottled spunk”, and that you “Can’t live without spunk“, [...] … This was even more humourous given that many of the advertising images featured models, who apparently never learned to drink water properly, splashing Dasani all over their faces.'
The interesting thing is that it would only have taken about 5 seconds to find out that that particular slogan probably wasn't going to work in the UK.
Probably marketing secrecy, and no trusted Brit available.
If Boris is ousted then something about Brexit will die too. Boris really is the very personification of Brexit, and without him a loss of innocence will ensue leaving Brexit Britain a little darker, a little colder. I don't think the Tories and Leavers are yet ready to deal with such a psychological blow and for this reason Boris is safe.
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SeanT reincarnates on PB. Again. Still voted for this shitshow...
The wine there must be powerful stuff if it has that effect, which reminde me: *goes off in search of the NZ white in the firdge*
A poll by JL Partners, shatters that narrative. It puts Labour 20 points clear of the Conservatives in Wakefield and shows that voters are blaming Johnson. Tory internal polling also suggests that a “disastrous” loss is on the cards.
If Boris is ousted then something about Brexit will die too. Boris really is the very personification of Brexit, and without him a loss of innocence will ensue leaving Brexit Britain a little darker, a little colder. I don't think the Tories and Leavers are yet ready to deal with such a psychological blow and for this reason Boris is safe.
It is the year 2067, and as the Earthite Alliance of Humanoid Droids guided by Official Death God GPT68 fires hypersonic Inviso-Jesus infra-sad missiles at the Lost Cathedral of Parallel Proxima Fuckauri 9, dominated by its Bkkrprprk mono-president VVVVVVVrrpptywoo 3X7Musk Dalle900 WhoahBump, on PB,.com, @Scott_xP cuts and pastes a tweet that finally throws Brexit in a bad light
SeanT reincarnates on PB. Again. Still voted for this shitshow...
Honest question.
Do you think you’ll be furiously angry about Brexit until you die?
Genuinely curious. It is surely possible. History is full of political events that made people so alienated they literally never got over it. The Irreconcilables
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SeanT reincarnates on PB. Again. Still voted for this shitshow...
Honest question.
Do you think you’ll be furiously angry about Brexit until you die?
Genuinely curious. It is surely possible. History is full of political events that made people so alienated they literally never got over it. The Irreconcilables
Entirely possible. There are many people who never got over joining the EEC, and many of whom will have died since then.
If Boris is ousted then something about Brexit will die too. Boris really is the very personification of Brexit, and without him a loss of innocence will ensue leaving Brexit Britain a little darker, a little colder. I don't think the Tories and Leavers are yet ready to deal with such a psychological blow and for this reason Boris is safe.
The Tories, and indeed all of the British Right, need to ask themselves how their universe will look without Boris. They can have Brexit; they can have the absence of Boris. But can they have both?
The Tories, and indeed all of the British Right, need to ask themselves how their universe will look without Boris. They can have Brexit; they can have the absence of Boris. But can they have both?
Tobias Ellwood has already answered that question.
That ain't a shock. There's been polling saying the Tories are tanking up North for a while. And it tallies with the Council results in Wakey. Yet. The mythology around the Red Wall, and Boris' preternatural appeal here stubbornly persists.
Do you think you’ll be furiously angry about Brexit until you die?
Why are you not?
Your daughter's future is indelibly blighted by your vote.
Is it just guilt?
I have to say that my granddaughter has not been blighted with a university place in Kyoto next year and two years later a year in Italy all through Leeds University
You are an extreme view as indeed there are many on the other side
I expect a closer relationship to develop but some will never be reconciled from either extreme while most will just get on with their lives
It is the year 2067, and as the Earthite Alliance of Humanoid Droids guided by Official Death God GPT68 fires hypersonic Inviso-Jesus infra-sad missiles at the Lost Cathedral of Parallel Proxima Fuckauri 9, dominated by its Bkkrprprk mono-president VVVVVVVrrpptywoo 3X7Musk Dalle900 WhoahBump, on PB,.com, @Scott_xP cuts and pastes a tweet that finally throws Brexit in a bad light
SeanT reincarnates on PB. Again. Still voted for this shitshow...
Honest question.
Do you think you’ll be furiously angry about Brexit until you die?
Genuinely curious. It is surely possible. History is full of political events that made people so alienated they literally never got over it. The Irreconcilables
Entirely possible. There are many people who never got over joining the EEC, and many of whom will have died since then.
Yes
Likewise Scottish Indy. If it never happens in the foreseeable future (my guess) then quite a few hardcore Yessers will die with this fire of rage in their hearts. On the other hand, if you do get Sindyref2 and toy vote YES, then there will be Unionists that are like @Scott_xP who will rage against it, even as the light dies
It is a sad thing, and I see it now. These binary referendums on huge constitutional issues are a bad idea
This will surprise @Scott_xP but i now realise this was one of the advantages of the EU, it enabled countries to fudge horrible problems, esp - in our case - in Ulster
However the fudging did not justfiy - to my mind - the terrible loss of democratic sovereignty
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SeanT reincarnates on PB. Again. Still voted for this shitshow...
No doubt. In the year 2525, if PB is still alive, if Internet blogging can survive, people will still be waiting for a tangible benefit of Brexit.
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I don't know what you do for a living, but don't take up writing
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I don't know what you do for a living, but don't take up writing
i think I’ve been fairly clear all along that I knap flints, and similar carvable stones, into sex toys, hence my presence here in Georgia
I have recently been befriend by a stray Old town Tbilisi cat. Young, I think. Very cute. i feed her morsels of meat at night and we sit contentedly together on my terrace as I watch Borgen (season 4) and she licks her private parts
But she is staring out at this storm with wide wide eyes
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SeanT reincarnates on PB. Again. Still voted for this shitshow...
Honest question.
Do you think you’ll be furiously angry about Brexit until you die?
Genuinely curious. It is surely possible. History is full of political events that made people so alienated they literally never got over it. The Irreconcilables
Entirely possible. There are many people who never got over joining the EEC, and many of whom will have died since then.
Not sure that's true tbh. The EEC really wasn't that controversial. Euroscepticism only started as a significant factor in British politics with Maastricht and the euro.
That Wakefield poll. Lab 48 Con 28 Green 8 LD 7 Ref 3.
It is not Wakefield alone that matters, that seat has been Labour at every general election before 2019. It is Tiverton and Honiton too.
If there is no challenge before the by elections if the Tories lose Wakefield but hold Tiverton and Honiton even if there were a challenge Johnson likely survives it. Only if the Tories lose Wakefield and Tiverton and Honiton would he probably then lose a VONC
I have recently been befriend by a stray Old town Tbilisi cat. Young, I think. Very cute. i feed her morsels of meat at night and we sit contentedly together on my terrace as I watch Borgen (season 4) and she licks her private parts
But she is staring out at this storm with wide wide eyes
It is the year 2067, and as the Earthite Alliance of Humanoid Droids guided by Official Death God GPT68 fires hypersonic Inviso-Jesus infra-sad missiles at the Lost Cathedral of Parallel Proxima Fuckauri 9, dominated by its Bkkrprprk mono-president VVVVVVVrrpptywoo 3X7Musk Dalle900 WhoahBump, on PB,.com, @Scott_xP cuts and pastes a tweet that finally throws Brexit in a bad light
I don't know what you do for a living, but don't take up writing
i think I’ve been fairly clear all along that I knap flints, and similar carvable stones, into sex toys, hence my presence here in Georgia
I'm not clicking that link, but I can see "obsidian" in the title and I would like to strongly recommend that nobody ever inserts obsidian into anything unless you intend that thing to carved open.
In the stone ages, obsidian from Turkish volcanoes found its way thousands of kilometres into away due to its renown for having an extremely sharp cutting edge. If you wanted a spear- or arrow-tip, you wanted obsidian.
It is the year 2067, and as the Earthite Alliance of Humanoid Droids guided by Official Death God GPT68 fires hypersonic Inviso-Jesus infra-sad missiles at the Lost Cathedral of Parallel Proxima Fuckauri 9, dominated by its Bkkrprprk mono-president VVVVVVVrrpptywoo 3X7Musk Dalle900 WhoahBump, on PB,.com, @Scott_xP cuts and pastes a tweet that finally throws Brexit in a bad light
I don't know what you do for a living, but don't take up writing
i think I’ve been fairly clear all along that I knap flints, and similar carvable stones, into sex toys, hence my presence here in Georgia
I'm not clicking that link, but I can see "obsidian" in the title and I would like to strongly recommend that nobody ever inserts obsidian into anything unless you intend that thing to carved open.
In the stone ages, obsidian from Turkish volcanoes found its way thousands of kilometres into away due to its renown for having an extremely sharp cutting edge. If you wanted a spear- or arrow-tip, you wanted obsidian.
It is the year 2067, and as the Earthite Alliance of Humanoid Droids guided by Official Death God GPT68 fires hypersonic Inviso-Jesus infra-sad missiles at the Lost Cathedral of Parallel Proxima Fuckauri 9, dominated by its Bkkrprprk mono-president VVVVVVVrrpptywoo 3X7Musk Dalle900 WhoahBump, on PB,.com, @Scott_xP cuts and pastes a tweet that finally throws Brexit in a bad light
I don't know what you do for a living, but don't take up writing
i think I’ve been fairly clear all along that I knap flints, and similar carvable stones, into sex toys, hence my presence here in Georgia
I'm not clicking that link, but I can see "obsidian" in the title and I would like to strongly recommend that nobody ever inserts obsidian into anything unless you intend that thing to carved open.
In the stone ages, obsidian from Turkish volcanoes found its way thousands of kilometres into away due to its renown for having an extremely sharp cutting edge. If you wanted a spear- or arrow-tip, you wanted obsidian.
It is the year 2067, and as the Earthite Alliance of Humanoid Droids guided by Official Death God GPT68 fires hypersonic Inviso-Jesus infra-sad missiles at the Lost Cathedral of Parallel Proxima Fuckauri 9, dominated by its Bkkrprprk mono-president VVVVVVVrrpptywoo 3X7Musk Dalle900 WhoahBump, on PB,.com, @Scott_xP cuts and pastes a tweet that finally throws Brexit in a bad light
SeanT reincarnates on PB. Again. Still voted for this shitshow...
Honest question.
Do you think you’ll be furiously angry about Brexit until you die?
Genuinely curious. It is surely possible. History is full of political events that made people so alienated they literally never got over it. The Irreconcilables
Don't know about Scott but with me - on the Brexit - it's disappointment. Disappointment with my country.
I'm angry towards Boris Johnson though. The damage he's done for no greater cause than his own self-promotion.
I have recently been befriend by a stray Old town Tbilisi cat. Young, I think. Very cute. i feed her morsels of meat at night and we sit contentedly together on my terrace as I watch Borgen (season 4) and she licks her private parts
But she is staring out at this storm with wide wide eyes
I love cats' facial expressions during storms.
There should be a special NON-GERMAN compound noun for ‘those animals that you weirdly befriend on a long foreign trip’
I can think of a few, over my life. A dog on Ko Samui in Thailand. A one-eyed cat on Corfu. A leopard in Zambia called Evelyn (tho it was more we wanting to BE his friend, he was so cool, he tended to ignore me).
It is the year 2067, and as the Earthite Alliance of Humanoid Droids guided by Official Death God GPT68 fires hypersonic Inviso-Jesus infra-sad missiles at the Lost Cathedral of Parallel Proxima Fuckauri 9, dominated by its Bkkrprprk mono-president VVVVVVVrrpptywoo 3X7Musk Dalle900 WhoahBump, on PB,.com, @Scott_xP cuts and pastes a tweet that finally throws Brexit in a bad light
SeanT reincarnates on PB. Again. Still voted for this shitshow...
Honest question.
Do you think you’ll be furiously angry about Brexit until you die?
Genuinely curious. It is surely possible. History is full of political events that made people so alienated they literally never got over it. The Irreconcilables
Don't know about Scott but with me - on the Brexit - it's disappointment. Disappointment with my country.
I'm angry towards Boris Johnson though. The damage he's done for no greater cause than his own self-promotion.
It is the year 2067, and as the Earthite Alliance of Humanoid Droids guided by Official Death God GPT68 fires hypersonic Inviso-Jesus infra-sad missiles at the Lost Cathedral of Parallel Proxima Fuckauri 9, dominated by its Bkkrprprk mono-president VVVVVVVrrpptywoo 3X7Musk Dalle900 WhoahBump, on PB,.com, @Scott_xP cuts and pastes a tweet that finally throws Brexit in a bad light
SeanT reincarnates on PB. Again. Still voted for this shitshow...
Honest question.
Do you think you’ll be furiously angry about Brexit until you die?
Genuinely curious. It is surely possible. History is full of political events that made people so alienated they literally never got over it. The Irreconcilables
Don't know about Scott but with me - on the Brexit - it's disappointment. Disappointment with my country.
I'm angry towards Boris Johnson though. The damage he's done for no greater cause than his own self-promotion.
Just stupid
Well, yes, he's that too, but I don't think you can discount the self-aggrandisement element.
That Wakefield poll. Lab 48 Con 28 Green 8 LD 7 Ref 3.
It is not Wakefield alone that matters, that seat has been Labour at every general election before 2019. It is Tiverton and Honiton too.
If there is no challenge before the by elections if the Tories lose Wakefield but hold Tiverton and Honiton even if there were a challenge Johnson likely survives it. Only if the Tories lose Wakefield and Tiverton and Honiton would he probably then lose a VONC
That Wakefield poll. Lab 48 Con 28 Green 8 LD 7 Ref 3.
It is not Wakefield alone that matters, that seat has been Labour at every general election before 2019. It is Tiverton and Honiton too.
If there is no challenge before the by elections if the Tories lose Wakefield but hold Tiverton and Honiton even if there were a challenge Johnson likely survives it. Only if the Tories lose Wakefield and Tiverton and Honiton would he probably then lose a VONC
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"Russian man accused of Alexander Litvinenko killing dies of Covid-19"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61690519
Which poses another question: how bad is Covid in Russia at the moment?
https://www.indy100.com/viral/nft-company-nonce-finance-problem-b1878973
Mind, at the moment anyone downstream of about Oxford must be getting heavy homoeopathic doses of just about every drug known to science in their tea, coffee, and ice already, given where the tap water comes from. Which consideration means that I am extremely sceptical of any claims for homoepathy, once one discounts the very real effects of placebo and of simply not taking the kinds of drugs Victorian doctors liked to prescribe (and tbf modern drugs also have their problems).
They will do best to approach the leadership and election on the basis that though winnable it's a good one to lose and appoint a truly decent person as leader with and eye on 2028 or thereabouts. If they did the right thing for its own sake they might even get lucky.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2016/05/time-coca-cola-tried-sell-bottled-tap-water-england-hilarity-ensued/
If she’s so frail she can’t attend a service of thanksgiving, the state opening of Parliament and Epsom then it must surely to goodness be being considered in the near future?
I thought Desert Crown would win, but at the price I wasn't going in. Didn't fancy the other front runners.
The guarantee is that it won't work next time.
I met her a few months ago and thought “yes, she seems to know what she’s talking about” but didn’t get the sense of someone with a burning desire to be PM.
There are generally slim pickings out there which is why they need a lengthy period of time in opposition. Hunt is okay. Javid would steady the ship. I still Harper is the strongest of the underdogs.
'Unsurprisingly, after a 2004 article in The Grocer casually mentioned the tap water source of Dasani water, the wider media was soon whipped up into a frenzy. Among other things, Coca-Cola’s audacity in this situation was humourously compared to the plot of an episode of the popular British sitcom Only Fools and Horses, in which the main characters attempt to bottle and then sell tap water from Peckham for an exorbitant markup via marketing it as “Peckham Spring”. It should be noted here that Sidcup, where Dasani water in the UK was sourced, is only about ten kilometres from Peckham.
Things continued to go wrong for Coke when they launched their online marketing campaign and began advertising Dasani as being “full of spunk”, “Bottled spunk”, and that you “Can’t live without spunk“, [...] … This was even more humourous given that many of the advertising images featured models, who apparently never learned to drink water properly, splashing Dasani all over their faces.'
But if Her Maj is immobilised in Windsor then surely it would be better for Charles to do all the necessary constitutional stuff, e.g meeting the PM, reading papers, signing laws and meeting ambassadors? And I believe that would require a Regency under the current law.
It would spoil her record of the longest reigning monarch never to have a regent, but that’s not really the key consideration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest-reigning_monarchs?wprov=sfla1
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/can-boris-johnson-weather-the-coming-storm-tbcj89fjn
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Do you think you’ll be furiously angry about Brexit until you die?
Genuinely curious. It is surely possible. History is full of political events that made people so alienated they literally never got over it. The Irreconcilables
Your daughter's future is indelibly blighted by your vote.
Is it just guilt?
And it tallies with the Council results in Wakey.
Yet. The mythology around the Red Wall, and Boris' preternatural appeal here stubbornly persists.
You are an extreme view as indeed there are many on the other side
I expect a closer relationship to develop but some will never be reconciled from either extreme while most will just get on with their lives
Likewise Scottish Indy. If it never happens in the foreseeable future (my guess) then quite a few hardcore Yessers will die with this fire of rage in their hearts. On the other hand, if you do get Sindyref2 and toy vote YES, then there will be Unionists that are like @Scott_xP who will rage against it, even as the light dies
It is a sad thing, and I see it now. These binary referendums on huge constitutional issues are a bad idea
This will surprise @Scott_xP but i now realise this was one of the advantages of the EU, it enabled countries to fudge horrible problems, esp - in our case - in Ulster
However the fudging did not justfiy - to my mind - the terrible loss of democratic sovereignty
@ElectionMapsUK
Wakefield By-Election Voting Intention:
LAB: 48% (+8)
CON: 28% (-19)
GRN: 8% (New)
LDM: 7% (+3)
RFM: 3% (-3)
Via @JLPartnersPolls, 13-22 May."
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/discovery-of-obsidian-mines-on-mount-chikiani-in-the-lesser-caucasus-of-georgia/3EB4470CEEEF026E48646A6B9BD3BA72
Lab 48
Con 28
Green 8
LD 7
Ref 3.
6% for David Herdson to fight over with an assortment of loons.
Obviously I don't believe ANY of this stuff, but it needs pointing out that some MPs could abstain.
I have recently been befriend by a stray Old town Tbilisi cat. Young, I think. Very cute. i feed her morsels of meat at night and we sit contentedly together on my terrace as I watch Borgen (season 4) and she licks her private parts
But she is staring out at this storm with wide wide eyes
If there is no challenge before the by elections if the Tories lose Wakefield but hold Tiverton and Honiton even if there were a challenge Johnson likely survives it. Only if the Tories lose Wakefield and Tiverton and Honiton would he probably then lose a VONC
In the stone ages, obsidian from Turkish volcanoes found its way thousands of kilometres into away due to its renown for having an extremely sharp cutting edge. If you wanted a spear- or arrow-tip, you wanted obsidian.
Wasn't someone saying there was a poll on Wakefield circulating which hadn't been made public a few days ago?
I'm angry towards Boris Johnson though. The damage he's done for no greater cause than his own self-promotion.
I can think of a few, over my life. A dog on Ko Samui in Thailand. A one-eyed cat on Corfu. A leopard in Zambia called Evelyn (tho it was more we wanting to BE his friend, he was so cool, he tended to ignore me).
That's it. Over.
Off to switch my betting position. Back shortly.
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