How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
Like Selebian, my youngest (5) was disappointed the Queen didn't turn up at the school for the party.
Whoa, where do you live? 1977?
We're all big int'Queen in't'north. Distance (absence? does she come up here?) makes t'heart grow fonder. And we know how to genuflect to our superiors (which inludes anyone south of the Wash)
At my son's playgroup they did some things this week only, making decorations and the aforementioned party. Learned a song too, to the tune of London Bridge is Falling Down - Seventy years on the throne, on the throne, on the throne, Buckingham Palace is her home, Queen Elizabeth. Classic stuff
His cousins' school had some events too, including a portrait (of QE2) competition.
Mind you, the playgroup and primary school will mark just about anything going. Ideas for fun activities, I guess.
Just a thought about whether letters could go in to get rid of Boris.
I'm a traditional Tory voter who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I could just about stomach all the rubbish that has gone on lately because I saw the alternative as being worse. But is it really worse now? The Tories have turned into Labour splashing the cash indiscriminately. They are going to give me (and millions of others) a cash handout and then up my taxes to pay for it. That is not the Conservative way. That is classic Labour policy.
I have now turned. The Tories will not get my vote with Boris in charge as they are basically Labour in disguise. I'm obviously not going to vote Labour but the lack of my vote makes it far more likely others will get in. We have a council by-election coming up soon. I may just give a vote to the Greens for their local sustainable approach.
Now, if how I feel is how Tory MPs feel then maybe they might just send in their letters (e.g. John Redwood). It might not be partygate but instead the transformation of the Tory Party into the Labour Party.
I agree with everything you wrote, but couldn't vote for the Greens as they are Watermelons that are almost as bad as Corbyn's Labour.
The only ones I could just about stomach are the Lib Dems, but their NIMBYism puts me off. Other than that, who is a socially liberal, dry as dust conservative supposed to vote for?
You call yourself a 'social liberal' but you voted for the Brexit Party in 2019 and support sending people to Rwanda. You are an extreme reactionary who makes HYUFD look very moderate.
I cast a protest vote in 2019 in part to get rid of an authoritarian anti-immigration PM that I despised. The Brexit Party were no more than a tool for that as far as I was concerned, it also ousted Nigel Farage from the European Parliament so another win there.
I am not a reactionary, I am very pro-immigration and am happy to have a liberalised immigration system that is fair to all regardless of where in the planet they were born, or what the colour of their skin is, rather than prioritising primarily white Europeans over the rest of the planet.
I hate that there is no better solution than the Rwanda one, but the Channel is not safe to cross via people smugglers and it causes misery and drownings and every other policy has failed to fix that, offshore relocation works. It halted such movements with Australia, which has more people proportionately immigrating than the UK does.
I'd be quite happy to have an Australian-style system where that means twice as many people arrive proportionately as do now, but those people are fairly able to get visas from around the world, and people don't drown in the English Channel getting here.
That's not what the reactionaries want, or what they mean by Australian-style.
Migrant crossings: Afghans are largest national group fleeing to UK
People fleeing Afghanistan were the largest group among migrants crossing the Channel in the early part of 2022.
Afghans made up one in four people making the risky journey, following the Taliban's return to power last summer.
New figures show almost as many Afghans crossed the Channel in the first three months of this year (1,094) as in the whole of 2021 (1,323).
In nine out of ten cases over the last year, people fleeing Afghanistan were granted refugee status.
I don't see how Australian style points systems affects this, unless there's a "refugee" box you can tick on the visa application.
Most of the Channel crossers are granted refugee/asylum status because they have destroyed their passports and any ID documents (“Oh I lost them in Belarus”). We have no choice but to accept them
It looks like Patel’s Rwanda plan is going to fail, the govt haven’t got the spine to do anything serious (which means flying ALL OF THEM to Rwanda for a few months) and we simply have to tolerate 40-100,000 crossing the Channel every year and letting them stay. At least they are the hardier and more enterprising, given that they have made it all the way to Calais and then successfully crossed. It is Darwinian selection at work
I bet there is massive overlap between people who get worked up about migrant crossings and people who get worked up about cyclists running red lights. Both reflect anger at people breaking the rules (without wondering whether the rules are fair or sensible) and fear that someone is gaining some advantage that isn't available to them. In both cases I would tend to step back and take a more balanced view. In the case of the migrants, think about what they are escaping from and what they these highly motivated people who really want to be here could add to our economy. In the case of the cyclists, think about how they are aiding the flow of traffic. But of course some people just enjoy the visceral thrill of the gut rage too much to surrender to reason.
Absurd comparison. People who run red lights are dicks 94.5% of the time and putting themselves and others in danger. I appreciate that it might be hugely challenging to work out what possible reason there could be for wanting people to stop at red lights, or indeed whether such a rule is "fair or sensible", but I'm sure with a little bit of contemplation you'll get there.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Putin is Hitler part 739 of an ongoing series. Looting art and taking it back to Mother Russia
“As Russia’s invasion of Ukraine began, the director of the Museum of Local History in Melitopol in the south-east of the country, Leila Ibrahimova, arranged for a hoard of gold artefacts from ancient Scythia to be hidden. Just a few weeks later, she was kidnapped and interrogated by Russian troops. They demanded to know where the Scythian gold was; she refused to cooperate. Subsequently the museum’s curator Galina Andriivna Kucher was taken at gunpoint to the museum and asked to show a Russian “expert” and agents where the gold was. She also refused to locate the collection. Kucher was later abducted from her home on 30 April and her whereabouts remains unknown.”
It is about the US returning items they have confiscated from smugglers.
Smugglers have looted Iraq of thousands of ancient artifacts, many dating back 4,000 years, in the two decades since the US invasion and fall of Saddam Hussein.
Many of Iraq’s stolen antiquities have ended up in museums and personal collections in the United States – a dynamic depriving Iraqis the fruits of their own history.
On Tuesday, some of that historical record was set straight when Iraq said that the United States handed back more than 17,000 smuggled artifacts confiscated by U.S. authorities.
Iraqi Culture Minister Hasan Nadhim called the restitution “the largest in the history of Iraq,” according to the Associated Press. He said the Iraqi government and its embassy in Washington had been working for months on the arrangement.
This has to be the most ludicrous thread header OGH has ever posted.
He is recommending the Conservatives follow the example of Labour in 2007 when they forced out 3 times general election winner Blair in favour of Brown who then lost the 2010 general election having had to abandon his plans for an early 2007 election with Labour then losing all 3 general elections since then too?
The Tories removing 2019 general election winner Johnson in the same way Labour removed 1997, 2001 and 2005 general election winner Blair is not good advice at all I suggest
It’s a betting site so has to raise possibility of changes on mood and the narrative on coming elections.
As soon as Boris Johnson loses a VONC, Tories will get a poll bounce. Fact.
There will be ding dong big dog is gone impromptu parties.
Not in my political lifetime have I known a PM so utterly hated and his government thought of as a ragtag and bobtail joke.
It was difficult to watch Boris sitting beside Rishi as he delivered his cost of living statement yesterday as his expressions varied from bewildered, lost, dismayed and that look he gives of an angry public schoolboy who has lost an argument and wants to take his ball away
He just has to go, and his mps need to accept he is very much a dead weight over their party and the country
I do find @HYUFD's posts, constantly battling on Boris's behalf, as blind loyalty, but absolute delusion
Tbh I'm not sure he is a Borisite but is merely following the polling to any conclusion, even if absurd. Note that he says things like Boris is the most likely winner, not that Boris has the best policy on garden bridges or island airports.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Many schools (including ours) are on half term over the Jubilee itself, so they've either done it already, or aren't going to be. I half expected a Jubilee lunch or something that I could grumble about, but nothing!
The Beacon thing is funny. For some reason they've picked Castle Mound in Cambridge for the beacon lighting. One of the notable things about Castle Mound is that it is entirely hemmed in by buildings and trees which means there will be *no way* you will see the beacon unless you are actually assembled around its base.
PLease ignore my question - answered!
Not as if there is much choice locally. Are the Gog Magog Range all privately owned or something? A golf course ISTR?
Yes, that's all private, I believe. It'd be the perfect place, though. I'd be able to see the beacon from my flat
Just a thought about whether letters could go in to get rid of Boris.
I'm a traditional Tory voter who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I could just about stomach all the rubbish that has gone on lately because I saw the alternative as being worse. But is it really worse now? The Tories have turned into Labour splashing the cash indiscriminately. They are going to give me (and millions of others) a cash handout and then up my taxes to pay for it. That is not the Conservative way. That is classic Labour policy.
I have now turned. The Tories will not get my vote with Boris in charge as they are basically Labour in disguise. I'm obviously not going to vote Labour but the lack of my vote makes it far more likely others will get in. We have a council by-election coming up soon. I may just give a vote to the Greens for their local sustainable approach.
Now, if how I feel is how Tory MPs feel then maybe they might just send in their letters (e.g. John Redwood). It might not be partygate but instead the transformation of the Tory Party into the Labour Party.
I agree with everything you wrote, but couldn't vote for the Greens as they are Watermelons that are almost as bad as Corbyn's Labour.
The only ones I could just about stomach are the Lib Dems, but their NIMBYism puts me off. Other than that, who is a socially liberal, dry as dust conservative supposed to vote for?
You call yourself a 'social liberal' but you voted for the Brexit Party in 2019 and support sending people to Rwanda. You are an extreme reactionary who makes HYUFD look very moderate.
I cast a protest vote in 2019 in part to get rid of an authoritarian anti-immigration PM that I despised. The Brexit Party were no more than a tool for that as far as I was concerned, it also ousted Nigel Farage from the European Parliament so another win there.
I am not a reactionary, I am very pro-immigration and am happy to have a liberalised immigration system that is fair to all regardless of where in the planet they were born, or what the colour of their skin is, rather than prioritising primarily white Europeans over the rest of the planet.
I hate that there is no better solution than the Rwanda one, but the Channel is not safe to cross via people smugglers and it causes misery and drownings and every other policy has failed to fix that, offshore relocation works. It halted such movements with Australia, which has more people proportionately immigrating than the UK does.
I'd be quite happy to have an Australian-style system where that means twice as many people arrive proportionately as do now, but those people are fairly able to get visas from around the world, and people don't drown in the English Channel getting here.
That's not what the reactionaries want, or what they mean by Australian-style.
Migrant crossings: Afghans are largest national group fleeing to UK
People fleeing Afghanistan were the largest group among migrants crossing the Channel in the early part of 2022.
Afghans made up one in four people making the risky journey, following the Taliban's return to power last summer.
New figures show almost as many Afghans crossed the Channel in the first three months of this year (1,094) as in the whole of 2021 (1,323).
In nine out of ten cases over the last year, people fleeing Afghanistan were granted refugee status.
I don't see how Australian style points systems affects this, unless there's a "refugee" box you can tick on the visa application.
Most of the Channel crossers are granted refugee/asylum status because they have destroyed their passports and any ID documents (“Oh I lost them in Belarus”). We have no choice but to accept them
It looks like Patel’s Rwanda plan is going to fail, the govt haven’t got the spine to do anything serious (which means flying ALL OF THEM to Rwanda for a few months) and we simply have to tolerate 40-100,000 crossing the Channel every year and letting them stay. At least they are the hardier and more enterprising, given that they have made it all the way to Calais and then successfully crossed. It is Darwinian selection at work
I bet there is massive overlap between people who get worked up about migrant crossings and people who get worked up about cyclists running red lights. Both reflect anger at people breaking the rules (without wondering whether the rules are fair or sensible) and fear that someone is gaining some advantage that isn't available to them. In both cases I would tend to step back and take a more balanced view. In the case of the migrants, think about what they are escaping from and what they these highly motivated people who really want to be here could add to our economy. In the case of the cyclists, think about how they are aiding the flow of traffic. But of course some people just enjoy the visceral thrill of the gut rage too much to surrender to reason.
Absurd comparison. People who run red lights are dicks 94.5% of the time and putting themselves and others in danger. I appreciate that it might be hugely challenging to work out what possible reason there could be for wanting people to stop at red lights, or indeed whether such a rule is "fair or sensible", but I'm sure with a little bit of contemplation you'll get there.
Putin is Hitler part 739 of an ongoing series. Looting art and taking it back to Mother Russia
“As Russia’s invasion of Ukraine began, the director of the Museum of Local History in Melitopol in the south-east of the country, Leila Ibrahimova, arranged for a hoard of gold artefacts from ancient Scythia to be hidden. Just a few weeks later, she was kidnapped and interrogated by Russian troops. They demanded to know where the Scythian gold was; she refused to cooperate. Subsequently the museum’s curator Galina Andriivna Kucher was taken at gunpoint to the museum and asked to show a Russian “expert” and agents where the gold was. She also refused to locate the collection. Kucher was later abducted from her home on 30 April and her whereabouts remains unknown.”
It is about the US returning items they have confiscated from smugglers.
Smugglers have looted Iraq of thousands of ancient artifacts, many dating back 4,000 years, in the two decades since the US invasion and fall of Saddam Hussein.
Many of Iraq’s stolen antiquities have ended up in museums and personal collections in the United States – a dynamic depriving Iraqis the fruits of their own history.
On Tuesday, some of that historical record was set straight when Iraq said that the United States handed back more than 17,000 smuggled artifacts confiscated by U.S. authorities.
Iraqi Culture Minister Hasan Nadhim called the restitution “the largest in the history of Iraq,” according to the Associated Press. He said the Iraqi government and its embassy in Washington had been working for months on the arrangement.
Yes but artefacts were smuggled by US military personnel among others. That is the point.
I’m increasingly of the mind to begin my sentences pompously, sorry, I’m beginning to wonder if Jez Hunt has a real chance
I’ve always dismissed him before as a Remainer, and therefore with no chance. But Tory MPs are surely getting a bit desperate, and Brexit-purity is receding as a factor (as it should). Hunt is competent and reliable without being entirely dull like Starmer. He is persuasive, intelligent, moderate, fiscally sensible. He would save a lot of Remainy seats from the Lib Dems. He would make the Tories look more Cameroony. He’d lose a chunk of the Red Wall but he might win BACK seats elsewhere
I can see him scraping the Tories to a narrow maj. Hmm
I went off Hunt when he started doing his EUSSR stuff at the post-Brexit Tory conference. I know he's a politician and some kind of pandering to the zeitgeist is inevitable, but I found it at best undignified and at worst morally nihilistic - if he thought the EU was akin to the Soviet Union why was he recommending we stay in it only a few weeks before?
My only doubts on Hunt were his slight dalliance with homeopathy. I believe he put it down to naivety, but he should have known better. Otherwise I think he is pretty good.
I can't get past thinking that his Naughtie rhyming slang name is quite apt. Of course, you can be a bit of a hunt and still be a good PM. Likely some of our best PMs were complete hunts on a personal level.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
Like Selebian, my youngest (5) was disappointed the Queen didn't turn up at the school for the party.
Whoa, where do you live? 1977?
We're all big int'Queen in't'north. Distance (absence? does she come up here?) makes t'heart grow fonder. And we know how to genuflect to our superiors (which inludes anyone south of the Wash)
At my son's playgroup they did some things this week only, making decorations and the aforementioned party. Learned a song too, to the tune of London Bridge is Falling Down - Seventy years on the throne, on the throne, on the throne, Buckingham Palace is her home, Queen Elizabeth. Classic stuff
His cousins' school had some events too, including a portrait (of QE2) competition.
Mind you, the playgroup and primary school will mark just about anything going. Ideas for fun activities, I guess.
What an extraordinary tune to pick for that song ...
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Advent is NOT Christmas, it is the period of preparation for Christmas. Christmas itself only starts on Christmas Day with the commemoration of the birth of Christ
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
Like Selebian, my youngest (5) was disappointed the Queen didn't turn up at the school for the party.
Whoa, where do you live? 1977?
We're all big int'Queen in't'north. Distance (absence? does she come up here?) makes t'heart grow fonder. And we know how to genuflect to our superiors (which inludes anyone south of the Wash)
At my son's playgroup they did some things this week only, making decorations and the aforementioned party. Learned a song too, to the tune of London Bridge is Falling Down - Seventy years on the throne, on the throne, on the throne, Buckingham Palace is her home, Queen Elizabeth. Classic stuff
His cousins' school had some events too, including a portrait (of QE2) competition.
Mind you, the playgroup and primary school will mark just about anything going. Ideas for fun activities, I guess.
Given that London Bridge is the codename for HMQ's death I would say that that is in very poor taste, and potentially treasonous!
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Our Ukrainians are mystifyingly interested in it. I told them we don't venerate ancient tyrants in this house. Mrs DA told me to shut up and is taking them to some thing in the village.
Has the something in the village been organised by your parish council perchance? In our village the motif of every single event organised is either the royal family or the war (specifically WW! or WW2 of course).
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Advent is NOT Christmas, it is the period of preparation for Christmas. Christmas itself early starts on Christmas Day with the commemoration of the birth of Christ
Maybe in a strict, liturgical sense. For everyone else its around mid November now...
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Must be news to many with the Advent Calendars and Christmas food, music, parties, decorations, trees etc that Advent is "not Christmas" according to HYUFD.
Advent begins 27 November, which will be around when we would put our tree up. I guess HYUFD doesn't bother until the 25th December.
Just a thought about whether letters could go in to get rid of Boris.
I'm a traditional Tory voter who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I could just about stomach all the rubbish that has gone on lately because I saw the alternative as being worse. But is it really worse now? The Tories have turned into Labour splashing the cash indiscriminately. They are going to give me (and millions of others) a cash handout and then up my taxes to pay for it. That is not the Conservative way. That is classic Labour policy.
I have now turned. The Tories will not get my vote with Boris in charge as they are basically Labour in disguise. I'm obviously not going to vote Labour but the lack of my vote makes it far more likely others will get in. We have a council by-election coming up soon. I may just give a vote to the Greens for their local sustainable approach.
Now, if how I feel is how Tory MPs feel then maybe they might just send in their letters (e.g. John Redwood). It might not be partygate but instead the transformation of the Tory Party into the Labour Party.
I agree with everything you wrote, but couldn't vote for the Greens as they are Watermelons that are almost as bad as Corbyn's Labour.
The only ones I could just about stomach are the Lib Dems, but their NIMBYism puts me off. Other than that, who is a socially liberal, dry as dust conservative supposed to vote for?
You call yourself a 'social liberal' but you voted for the Brexit Party in 2019 and support sending people to Rwanda. You are an extreme reactionary who makes HYUFD look very moderate.
I cast a protest vote in 2019 in part to get rid of an authoritarian anti-immigration PM that I despised. The Brexit Party were no more than a tool for that as far as I was concerned, it also ousted Nigel Farage from the European Parliament so another win there.
I am not a reactionary, I am very pro-immigration and am happy to have a liberalised immigration system that is fair to all regardless of where in the planet they were born, or what the colour of their skin is, rather than prioritising primarily white Europeans over the rest of the planet.
I hate that there is no better solution than the Rwanda one, but the Channel is not safe to cross via people smugglers and it causes misery and drownings and every other policy has failed to fix that, offshore relocation works. It halted such movements with Australia, which has more people proportionately immigrating than the UK does.
I'd be quite happy to have an Australian-style system where that means twice as many people arrive proportionately as do now, but those people are fairly able to get visas from around the world, and people don't drown in the English Channel getting here.
That's not what the reactionaries want, or what they mean by Australian-style.
Migrant crossings: Afghans are largest national group fleeing to UK
People fleeing Afghanistan were the largest group among migrants crossing the Channel in the early part of 2022.
Afghans made up one in four people making the risky journey, following the Taliban's return to power last summer.
New figures show almost as many Afghans crossed the Channel in the first three months of this year (1,094) as in the whole of 2021 (1,323).
In nine out of ten cases over the last year, people fleeing Afghanistan were granted refugee status.
I don't see how Australian style points systems affects this, unless there's a "refugee" box you can tick on the visa application.
Most of the Channel crossers are granted refugee/asylum status because they have destroyed their passports and any ID documents (“Oh I lost them in Belarus”). We have no choice but to accept them
It looks like Patel’s Rwanda plan is going to fail, the govt haven’t got the spine to do anything serious (which means flying ALL OF THEM to Rwanda for a few months) and we simply have to tolerate 40-100,000 crossing the Channel every year and letting them stay. At least they are the hardier and more enterprising, given that they have made it all the way to Calais and then successfully crossed. It is Darwinian selection at work
I bet there is massive overlap between people who get worked up about migrant crossings and people who get worked up about cyclists running red lights. Both reflect anger at people breaking the rules (without wondering whether the rules are fair or sensible) and fear that someone is gaining some advantage that isn't available to them. In both cases I would tend to step back and take a more balanced view. In the case of the migrants, think about what they are escaping from and what they these highly motivated people who really want to be here could add to our economy. In the case of the cyclists, think about how they are aiding the flow of traffic. But of course some people just enjoy the visceral thrill of the gut rage too much to surrender to reason.
That doesn't really seem to fit with London being the place of maximum conflict and also the alleged 'progressive' centre of the UK.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
Like Selebian, my youngest (5) was disappointed the Queen didn't turn up at the school for the party.
This hasn't been happening at my daughter's primary! No jubilee-related things at all, and she hasn't even mentioned it in the last week.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Ironic really given the cost of fuel. Complete waste of expensive energy.
*checks*
And "every town and city in the UK" appears to be demonstrably untrue, on a quick google check.
Given the SNP had ruled out new oil fields in Scotland don't you Nationalists dare have the cheek to complain about lack of energy!!
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Where I live, there's quite a few public parties of all sorts planned for the long weekend.
However, given that I live in the heart of leftie/green land, I can't help but think that this doesn't actually indicate an upsurge in monarchism, but is more an excuse to have fun over a long weekend in the summer. I've not seen any royal paraphernalia or flags either on display or for sale.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Advent is NOT Christmas, it is the period of preparation for Christmas. Christmas itself early starts on Christmas Day with the commemoration of the birth of Christ
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
Christmas season starts when they start playing only Christmas songs on Magic, around the end of November. That's what it says in the Bible anyway. And who are we to argue with the literal word of God?
Do you know that the BBC removed their Christmas song playlists from BBC Sounds before Twelfth Night. The barbarians.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Ironic really given the cost of fuel. Complete waste of expensive energy.
*checks*
And "every town and city in the UK" appears to be demonstrably untrue, on a quick google check.
Given the SNP had ruled out new oil fields in Scotland don't you Nationalists dare have the cheek to complain about lack of energy!!
You really do need to do your homework. Oil fields are not a devolved matter. It was HMG that ruled it out (but have now U-turned). We would have been in a better position energy wise if HMG had been more supportive of renewables.
Edit: and HMG is doing its best to reduce the energy stocks and promote global warming with this beacon stuff. Who do they think they are, Henry VIII?
I’m increasingly of the mind to begin my sentences pompously, sorry, I’m beginning to wonder if Jez Hunt has a real chance
I’ve always dismissed him before as a Remainer, and therefore with no chance. But Tory MPs are surely getting a bit desperate, and Brexit-purity is receding as a factor (as it should). Hunt is competent and reliable without being entirely dull like Starmer. He is persuasive, intelligent, moderate, fiscally sensible. He would save a lot of Remainy seats from the Lib Dems. He would make the Tories look more Cameroony. He’d lose a chunk of the Red Wall but he might win BACK seats elsewhere
I can see him scraping the Tories to a narrow maj. Hmm
Possibly or he leads to 1997 style disaster. As Hunt remains committed to a harder Brexit than Starmer he still loses Remain seats to Labour and the LDs but as he is more fiscally conservative than Johnson and still an ex Remainer unlike Johnson he also loses more redwall seats than Johnson would to Labour and leaks more votes to RefUK
There won’t be a 1997 disaster unless the Tories stick with Boris, and the revulsion at Boris becomes the overwhelming sentiment. On the other hand - as I have often said - Boris is a winner and good campaigner and a lucky general and he might just swing a surprisingly decent victory. It is still 2 years away. Sticking with Boris is, weirdly, the bigger gamble, you could win big or lose terrible
Starmer is not Blair, there is no Brown, there is no Al Campbell, Labour now is not the predatory and ruthless New Labour of 1997. They are vague and toothless
So a moderate Tory like Hunt could also fend them off, and win back the Boris haters. Hunt is most unlikely to lose REALLY badly to Starmer
There is no Blair no but voters who went New Labour in 1997 but for whom Starmer is still too leftwing are going LD. However Boris is as you say a good campaigner and is also winning over still many working class Leave voters who voted Labour in 1997 and Referendum and UKIP voters from back then.
Replace Johnson with Hunt and not only may he fail to win back centrist Remainers from Starmer and the LDs as he still has to back a hard Brexit to win Tory members but he also loses working class redwallers back to Labour or RefUK, those voters still only voting Tory due to Boris mainly as in 2019.
Don't often agree with HUYFD but this is on the money.
Missing element from the analysis is the age of voters. Boris's naughty schoolboy schtick doesn't play with Da Yoof at all.
I’m increasingly of the mind to begin my sentences pompously, sorry, I’m beginning to wonder if Jez Hunt has a real chance
I’ve always dismissed him before as a Remainer, and therefore with no chance. But Tory MPs are surely getting a bit desperate, and Brexit-purity is receding as a factor (as it should). Hunt is competent and reliable without being entirely dull like Starmer. He is persuasive, intelligent, moderate, fiscally sensible. He would save a lot of Remainy seats from the Lib Dems. He would make the Tories look more Cameroony. He’d lose a chunk of the Red Wall but he might win BACK seats elsewhere
I can see him scraping the Tories to a narrow maj. Hmm
This is all true but the problem isn't the MPs, it's the membership.
The membership could well vote for Rees Mogg or Patel or Truss over Hunt of course
Neither Rees Mogg nor Patel have any chance of getting through the MP first stage. I suspect that Hunt would narrowly beat Truss if it is those two who make it through to the membership. He would be the safer tried-and-trusted choice.
Not necessarily, the right would likely have a candidate in the final 2 even if Hunt came first with MPs and Patel would certainly stand as might Rees Mogg.
Wallace I also think would beat Hunt with the membership
I suppose we should start by listing those who have a decent chance of becoming one of the two MPs' picks.
Wallace I agree. Hunt. Mordaunt and Sunak possibly. Javid?
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
Christmas season starts when they start playing only Christmas songs on Magic, around the end of November. That's what it says in the Bible anyway. And who are we to argue with the literal word of God?
Do you know that the BBC removed their Christmas song playlists from BBC Sounds before Twelfth Night. The barbarians.
Good. The first 5 days of January are shit and made shitter by leftover decorations and playlists. Christmas ends on New Year's Eve.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
The Christian feast of Christmas begins on Christmas Eve at sundown (vespers) and goes to 12th night. (Making up christmastide) Advent, Christmastide and Epiphanytide ending at Candlemas and the presentation of Christ at the temple can be reasonably said to mark the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ each year
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Ironic really given the cost of fuel. Complete waste of expensive energy.
*checks*
And "every town and city in the UK" appears to be demonstrably untrue, on a quick google check.
Given the SNP had ruled out new oil fields in Scotland don't you Nationalists dare have the cheek to complain about lack of energy!!
You really do need to do your homework. Oil fields are not a devolved matter. It was HMG that ruled it out (but have now U-turned). We would have been in a better position energy wise if HMG had been more supportive of renewables.
The UK has amongst the highest percentage of renewable in the developed world, it is however Sturgeon who has ruled out new oil fields
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
Like Selebian, my youngest (5) was disappointed the Queen didn't turn up at the school for the party.
Whoa, where do you live? 1977?
We're all big int'Queen in't'north. Distance (absence? does she come up here?) makes t'heart grow fonder. And we know how to genuflect to our superiors (which inludes anyone south of the Wash)
At my son's playgroup they did some things this week only, making decorations and the aforementioned party. Learned a song too, to the tune of London Bridge is Falling Down - Seventy years on the throne, on the throne, on the throne, Buckingham Palace is her home, Queen Elizabeth. Classic stuff
His cousins' school had some events too, including a portrait (of QE2) competition.
Mind you, the playgroup and primary school will mark just about anything going. Ideas for fun activities, I guess.
What an extraordinary tune to pick for that song ...
I know! Took me a while to work out what the tune was, too. Although that's possibly a reflection on my son's singing ability.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
Christmas season starts when they start playing only Christmas songs on Magic, around the end of November. That's what it says in the Bible anyway. And who are we to argue with the literal word of God?
Do you know that the BBC removed their Christmas song playlists from BBC Sounds before Twelfth Night. The barbarians.
On the other hand, Trace started 24/7 xmas music on Sept 21st last year
Yeah, on topic @HYUFD is right. Johnson has the magic juice. Sorry, James O'Brien apart you just can't look at him without some degree of sympathy. He will spend the next two years charming and re-charming people.
Plus the Cons are now hooked to him. Hunt isn't going to rise up, and all the others are pale imitations of Party leaders vs Boris.
The Conservative Party will stand or fall with Boris at the helm at the next GE and they very well might stand.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Our Ukrainians are mystifyingly interested in it. I told them we don't venerate ancient tyrants in this house. Mrs DA told me to shut up and is taking them to some thing in the village.
Has the something in the village been organised by your parish council perchance? In our village the motif of every single event organised is either the royal family or the war (specifically WW! or WW2 of course).
Probably, they are all radged. I don't know for sure as I have not attended any PC meetings for ages.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Ironic really given the cost of fuel. Complete waste of expensive energy.
*checks*
And "every town and city in the UK" appears to be demonstrably untrue, on a quick google check.
Given the SNP had ruled out new oil fields in Scotland don't you Nationalists dare have the cheek to complain about lack of energy!!
You really do need to do your homework. Oil fields are not a devolved matter. It was HMG that ruled it out (but have now U-turned). We would have been in a better position energy wise if HMG had been more supportive of renewables.
The UK has amongst the highest percentage of renewable in the developed world, it is however Sturgeon who has ruled out new oil fields
And Ms S is pointing out the blindingly obvious - that it will take too long to develop new oilfields to reesolve the current crisis.
No wonder the UK is in the current state when this is the level of strategic thinking coming from the Tories. CAlendars are there for a reason, and not just Advent calendars.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
Christmas season starts when they start playing only Christmas songs on Magic, around the end of November. That's what it says in the Bible anyway. And who are we to argue with the literal word of God?
Do you know that the BBC removed their Christmas song playlists from BBC Sounds before Twelfth Night. The barbarians.
Good. The first 5 days of January are shit and made shitter by leftover decorations and playlists. Christmas ends on New Year's Eve.
Doesnt end till Candlemas at casa Woolie, and it begins Nov 1st. 3 month celebration innit
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Must be news to many with the Advent Calendars and Christmas food, music, parties, decorations, trees etc that Advent is "not Christmas" according to HYUFD.
Advent begins 27 November, which will be around when we would put our tree up. I guess HYUFD doesn't bother until the 25th December.
Yep. Nothing until midnight on Christmas. Then the scurge is unboxed and the flagellation begins.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Our Ukrainians are mystifyingly interested in it. I told them we don't venerate ancient tyrants in this house. Mrs DA told me to shut up and is taking them to some thing in the village.
Has the something in the village been organised by your parish council perchance? In our village the motif of every single event organised is either the royal family or the war (specifically WW! or WW2 of course).
Mate of mine [WARNING] is hosting a WWII re-enactment at his place. He says that they (the re-enacters) are thrilled because many venues are cancelling because Ukraine. Don't think it is Jubilee-related, but it might be.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Lies. TheresaHY is the only expert we need on the Church.
It's a bit like claiming that Easter Sunday is all that it's at when the entire ritual and liturgical process toward it of Holy Week is an integral part.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Must be news to many with the Advent Calendars and Christmas food, music, parties, decorations, trees etc that Advent is "not Christmas" according to HYUFD.
Advent begins 27 November, which will be around when we would put our tree up. I guess HYUFD doesn't bother until the 25th December.
As an atheist for me I find Christmas starts when I decide it starts.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
The Christian feast of Christmas begins on Christmas Eve at sundown (vespers) and goes to 12th night. (Making up christmastide) Advent, Christmastide and Epiphanytide ending at Candlemas and the presentation of Christ at the temple can be reasonably said to mark the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ each year
And something about the Boethusian introduction of Starbucks Red Cups?
Putin is Hitler part 739 of an ongoing series. Looting art and taking it back to Mother Russia
“As Russia’s invasion of Ukraine began, the director of the Museum of Local History in Melitopol in the south-east of the country, Leila Ibrahimova, arranged for a hoard of gold artefacts from ancient Scythia to be hidden. Just a few weeks later, she was kidnapped and interrogated by Russian troops. They demanded to know where the Scythian gold was; she refused to cooperate. Subsequently the museum’s curator Galina Andriivna Kucher was taken at gunpoint to the museum and asked to show a Russian “expert” and agents where the gold was. She also refused to locate the collection. Kucher was later abducted from her home on 30 April and her whereabouts remains unknown.”
It is about the US returning items they have confiscated from smugglers.
Smugglers have looted Iraq of thousands of ancient artifacts, many dating back 4,000 years, in the two decades since the US invasion and fall of Saddam Hussein.
Many of Iraq’s stolen antiquities have ended up in museums and personal collections in the United States – a dynamic depriving Iraqis the fruits of their own history.
On Tuesday, some of that historical record was set straight when Iraq said that the United States handed back more than 17,000 smuggled artifacts confiscated by U.S. authorities.
Iraqi Culture Minister Hasan Nadhim called the restitution “the largest in the history of Iraq,” according to the Associated Press. He said the Iraqi government and its embassy in Washington had been working for months on the arrangement.
Yes but artefacts were smuggled by US military personnel among others. That is the point.
Don't want to labour this, but I don't think it says that either. TBH that's a surprise given the Independent.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Our Ukrainians are mystifyingly interested in it. I told them we don't venerate ancient tyrants in this house. Mrs DA told me to shut up and is taking them to some thing in the village.
Has the something in the village been organised by your parish council perchance? In our village the motif of every single event organised is either the royal family or the war (specifically WW! or WW2 of course).
Mate of mine [WARNING] is hosting a WWII re-enactment at his place. He says that they (the re-enacters) are thrilled because many venues are cancelling because Ukraine. Don't think it is Jubilee-related, but it might be.
Ooh, any decent heavy armour ore interesting softskins?
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
The Christian feast of Christmas begins on Christmas Eve at sundown (vespers) and goes to 12th night. (Making up christmastide) Advent, Christmastide and Epiphanytide ending at Candlemas and the presentation of Christ at the temple can be reasonably said to mark the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ each year
And something about the Boethusian introduction of Starbucks Red Cups?
Yes the modern markers of tinsel wrapped around the cock, funky flavouted lattes that morph from halloween to festive and idiots saying Fairytale of New York is the greatest Xmas song are easier to follow
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Our Ukrainians are mystifyingly interested in it. I told them we don't venerate ancient tyrants in this house. Mrs DA told me to shut up and is taking them to some thing in the village.
Has the something in the village been organised by your parish council perchance? In our village the motif of every single event organised is either the royal family or the war (specifically WW! or WW2 of course).
Mate of mine [WARNING] is hosting a WWII re-enactment at his place. He says that they (the re-enacters) are thrilled because many venues are cancelling because Ukraine. Don't think it is Jubilee-related, but it might be.
Ooh, any decent heavy armour ore interesting softskins?
1/10 scale mode of Monte Cassino in the rockery that gets levelled by RC B-25s.
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Have you bumped in Prof Pagel by any chance?
I’m not joking. She’s now moved and she’s stretching out to have a nice Kip. With a plastic bag over her head
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
The Christian feast of Christmas begins on Christmas Eve at sundown (vespers) and goes to 12th night. (Making up christmastide) Advent, Christmastide and Epiphanytide ending at Candlemas and the presentation of Christ at the temple can be reasonably said to mark the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ each year
And something about the Boethusian introduction of Starbucks Red Cups?
Yes the modern markers of tinsel wrapped around the cock, funky flavouted lattes that morph from halloween to festive and idiots saying Fairytale of New York is the greatest Xmas song are easier to follow
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Our Ukrainians are mystifyingly interested in it. I told them we don't venerate ancient tyrants in this house. Mrs DA told me to shut up and is taking them to some thing in the village.
Has the something in the village been organised by your parish council perchance? In our village the motif of every single event organised is either the royal family or the war (specifically WW! or WW2 of course).
Mate of mine [WARNING] is hosting a WWII re-enactment at his place. He says that they (the re-enacters) are thrilled because many venues are cancelling because Ukraine. Don't think it is Jubilee-related, but it might be.
Ooh, any decent heavy armour ore interesting softskins?
Not sure - I can find out. The blurb says "wartime event for vehicles, reenactors, and history groups".
Christmas starts when Mince Pies go on sale in the supermarkets. The premium tier ones, not the crappy standard ones.
Feb 6th?
No thats when they start manufacturing them. Don't forget that so much of this stuff gets laid down into frozen stock as soon as any recipe changes are agreed between retailer and manufacturer. Which is straight after new year.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Our Ukrainians are mystifyingly interested in it. I told them we don't venerate ancient tyrants in this house. Mrs DA told me to shut up and is taking them to some thing in the village.
Has the something in the village been organised by your parish council perchance? In our village the motif of every single event organised is either the royal family or the war (specifically WW! or WW2 of course).
Mate of mine [WARNING] is hosting a WWII re-enactment at his place. He says that they (the re-enacters) are thrilled because many venues are cancelling because Ukraine. Don't think it is Jubilee-related, but it might be.
I shall be re enacting a typical day in the wartime life of Sir Winston Churchill. Props include 1/2 doz Mailly grand cru from BBR.
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Have you bumped in Prof Pagel by any chance?
I’m not joking. She’s now moved and she’s stretching out to have a nice Kip. With a plastic bag over her head
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Our Ukrainians are mystifyingly interested in it. I told them we don't venerate ancient tyrants in this house. Mrs DA told me to shut up and is taking them to some thing in the village.
I live securely in Middle England: almost as Middle as you can get. C.100 miles to the sea in just about any direction), traditional Tory Parliamentary majority (though currently LibDem-led County and district councils), average age over 50, slightly more Ukrainian flags flying than Union flags - and of course NO English flags - but both massively outnumbered by pennants for next month's (non-Jubilee) local festivals.
The foci of interest are the dozens of localish opera, visual arts, drama, literature, beer, dog, garden and rock festivals that take up every weekend, every year, from Ascensiontide to the late summer Bank Holiday. This year, many with some king of Jubilee twist - but prob. just as many with a Ukraine/refugee twist - and possibly by the time they take place, with a partygate/election/isn't-Johnson-a-pillock twist.
The dominant issue about Whit weekend isn't what we think of the monarchy or the Union: it's so self-evident that Elizabeth has served us infinitely better than the tossers who've run France and the US (or the homunculi who've done piss all as Heads of State in Germany or Switzerland) over the past 70 years, it's not worth discussing. The issue is what's the weather going to be like for the BBQ's planned around the four day weekend.
You're obviously not that far from me (I live south of Abingdon).
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Must be news to many with the Advent Calendars and Christmas food, music, parties, decorations, trees etc that Advent is "not Christmas" according to HYUFD.
Advent begins 27 November, which will be around when we would put our tree up. I guess HYUFD doesn't bother until the 25th December.
As an atheist for me I find Christmas starts when I decide it starts.
I used to say the first time you see the Coca Cola Christmas van advert on TV but since I don't want much commercial TV anymore, that has to be switched to the Starbucks red cups now instead.
Alternatively Halloween is October, then you have Guy Fawkes, and any time after Guy Fawkes is acceptable.
Christmas stuff before Halloween is an absolute no no.
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Have you bumped in Prof Pagel by any chance?
I’m not joking. She’s now moved and she’s stretching out to have a nice Kip. With a plastic bag over her head
WTAF
She’s now struggling for air. As you would. With a plastic bag over your head
Christmas starts when Mince Pies go on sale in the supermarkets. The premium tier ones, not the crappy standard ones.
I don't think that happens, I always hope to score a year's iron rations of xmas pudding and stilton but it all just vanishes on Boxing Day. in tesco anyway.
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Have you bumped in Prof Pagel by any chance?
I’m not joking. She’s now moved and she’s stretching out to have a nice Kip. With a plastic bag over her head
Bloke got off an almost empty bus as i was walking home last night wearing an FFP3 and wandered up the lonely road in it. He's been well indoctrinated. Meanwhile mask study out of Kansas she say masks caused more death, and we now know asymptomatic spread was way overplayed . Go figure.
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Have you bumped in Prof Pagel by any chance?
I’m not joking. She’s now moved and she’s stretching out to have a nice Kip. With a plastic bag over her head
WTAF
She’s now struggling for air. As you would. With a plastic bag over your head
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Have you bumped in Prof Pagel by any chance?
I’m not joking. She’s now moved and she’s stretching out to have a nice Kip. With a plastic bag over her head
WTAF
She’s now struggling for air. As you would. With a plastic bag over your head
On no account contaminate the experiment by intervening. Document, and photograph.
Christmas starts when Mince Pies go on sale in the supermarkets. The premium tier ones, not the crappy standard ones.
I don't think that happens, I always hope to score a year's iron rations of xmas pudding and stilton but it all just vanishes on Boxing Day. in tesco anyway.
Boxing day easter eggs are the new September christmas section in Selfridges
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Have you bumped in Prof Pagel by any chance?
I’m not joking. She’s now moved and she’s stretching out to have a nice Kip. With a plastic bag over her head
Bloke got off an almost empty bus as i was walking home last night wearing an FFP3 and wandered up the lonely road in it. He's been well indoctrinated. Meanwhile mask study out of Kansas she say masks caused more death, and we now know asymptomatic spread was way overplayed . Go figure.
I STILL wear a mask on public transport (including my sortie on the Lizzie Line!), and in supermarkets. Stubborn bastard, ain't I?
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Have you bumped in Prof Pagel by any chance?
I’m not joking. She’s now moved and she’s stretching out to have a nice Kip. With a plastic bag over her head
Bloke got off an almost empty bus as i was walking home last night wearing an FFP3 and wandered up the lonely road in it. He's been well indoctrinated. Meanwhile mask study out of Kansas she say masks caused more death, and we now know asymptomatic spread was way overplayed . Go figure.
Murica. They probably have studies showing how not arming 3rd grade kids causes more of them to be shot.
I’m increasingly of the mind to begin my sentences pompously, sorry, I’m beginning to wonder if Jez Hunt has a real chance
I’ve always dismissed him before as a Remainer, and therefore with no chance. But Tory MPs are surely getting a bit desperate, and Brexit-purity is receding as a factor (as it should). Hunt is competent and reliable without being entirely dull like Starmer. He is persuasive, intelligent, moderate, fiscally sensible. He would save a lot of Remainy seats from the Lib Dems. He would make the Tories look more Cameroony. He’d lose a chunk of the Red Wall but he might win BACK seats elsewhere
I can see him scraping the Tories to a narrow maj. Hmm
This is all true but the problem isn't the MPs, it's the membership.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Must be news to many with the Advent Calendars and Christmas food, music, parties, decorations, trees etc that Advent is "not Christmas" according to HYUFD.
Advent begins 27 November, which will be around when we would put our tree up. I guess HYUFD doesn't bother until the 25th December.
As an atheist for me I find Christmas starts when I decide it starts.
I used to say the first time you see the Coca Cola Christmas van advert on TV but since I don't want much commercial TV anymore, that has to be switched to the Starbucks red cups now instead.
Alternatively Halloween is October, then you have Guy Fawkes, and any time after Guy Fawkes is acceptable.
Christmas stuff before Halloween is an absolute no no.
Christmas adverts, and (reluctantly) music in shops - 1st November Everything else - 1st December Decorations down - some point in mid January, depending when we're (ok, she is) doing the cleaning anyway.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
The Christian feast of Christmas begins on Christmas Eve at sundown (vespers) and goes to 12th night. (Making up christmastide) Advent, Christmastide and Epiphanytide ending at Candlemas and the presentation of Christ at the temple can be reasonably said to mark the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ each year
And something about the Boethusian introduction of Starbucks Red Cups?
Yes the modern markers of tinsel wrapped around the cock, funky flavouted lattes that morph from halloween to festive and idiots saying Fairytale of New York is the greatest Xmas song are easier to follow
I find the tinsel rather chafing if I do that.
But the girls in the office are just so enchanted. Im told.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Must be news to many with the Advent Calendars and Christmas food, music, parties, decorations, trees etc that Advent is "not Christmas" according to HYUFD.
Advent begins 27 November, which will be around when we would put our tree up. I guess HYUFD doesn't bother until the 25th December.
As an atheist for me I find Christmas starts when I decide it starts.
Do you "wish it could be Christmas every da-e-ay"?
Christmas starts when Mince Pies go on sale in the supermarkets. The premium tier ones, not the crappy standard ones.
I don't think that happens, I always hope to score a year's iron rations of xmas pudding and stilton but it all just vanishes on Boxing Day. in tesco anyway.
Boxing day easter eggs are the new September christmas section in Selfridges
Mini Eggs are fine at any time starting from Boxing Day. But I found it very difficult to find them in the last couple of weeks before Easter this year.
And, for the love of god, why don't they sell short Twiglets in tubs all year round?
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Have you bumped in Prof Pagel by any chance?
I’m not joking. She’s now moved and she’s stretching out to have a nice Kip. With a plastic bag over her head
Bloke got off an almost empty bus as i was walking home last night wearing an FFP3 and wandered up the lonely road in it. He's been well indoctrinated. Meanwhile mask study out of Kansas she say masks caused more death, and we now know asymptomatic spread was way overplayed . Go figure.
I STILL wear a mask on public transport (including my sortie on the Lizzie Line!), and in supermarkets. Stubborn bastard, ain't I?
Up to you. As long as im left alone to make my own health choices its all good
Just a thought about whether letters could go in to get rid of Boris.
I'm a traditional Tory voter who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I could just about stomach all the rubbish that has gone on lately because I saw the alternative as being worse. But is it really worse now? The Tories have turned into Labour splashing the cash indiscriminately. They are going to give me (and millions of others) a cash handout and then up my taxes to pay for it. That is not the Conservative way. That is classic Labour policy.
I have now turned. The Tories will not get my vote with Boris in charge as they are basically Labour in disguise. I'm obviously not going to vote Labour but the lack of my vote makes it far more likely others will get in. We have a council by-election coming up soon. I may just give a vote to the Greens for their local sustainable approach.
Now, if how I feel is how Tory MPs feel then maybe they might just send in their letters (e.g. John Redwood). It might not be partygate but instead the transformation of the Tory Party into the Labour Party.
I agree with everything you wrote, but couldn't vote for the Greens as they are Watermelons that are almost as bad as Corbyn's Labour.
The only ones I could just about stomach are the Lib Dems, but their NIMBYism puts me off. Other than that, who is a socially liberal, dry as dust conservative supposed to vote for?
You call yourself a 'social liberal' but you voted for the Brexit Party in 2019 and support sending people to Rwanda. You are an extreme reactionary who makes HYUFD look very moderate.
I cast a protest vote in 2019 in part to get rid of an authoritarian anti-immigration PM that I despised. The Brexit Party were no more than a tool for that as far as I was concerned, it also ousted Nigel Farage from the European Parliament so another win there.
I am not a reactionary, I am very pro-immigration and am happy to have a liberalised immigration system that is fair to all regardless of where in the planet they were born, or what the colour of their skin is, rather than prioritising primarily white Europeans over the rest of the planet.
I hate that there is no better solution than the Rwanda one, but the Channel is not safe to cross via people smugglers and it causes misery and drownings and every other policy has failed to fix that, offshore relocation works. It halted such movements with Australia, which has more people proportionately immigrating than the UK does.
I'd be quite happy to have an Australian-style system where that means twice as many people arrive proportionately as do now, but those people are fairly able to get visas from around the world, and people don't drown in the English Channel getting here.
That's not what the reactionaries want, or what they mean by Australian-style.
Migrant crossings: Afghans are largest national group fleeing to UK
People fleeing Afghanistan were the largest group among migrants crossing the Channel in the early part of 2022.
Afghans made up one in four people making the risky journey, following the Taliban's return to power last summer.
New figures show almost as many Afghans crossed the Channel in the first three months of this year (1,094) as in the whole of 2021 (1,323).
In nine out of ten cases over the last year, people fleeing Afghanistan were granted refugee status.
I don't see how Australian style points systems affects this, unless there's a "refugee" box you can tick on the visa application.
Most of the Channel crossers are granted refugee/asylum status because they have destroyed their passports and any ID documents (“Oh I lost them in Belarus”). We have no choice but to accept them
It looks like Patel’s Rwanda plan is going to fail, the govt haven’t got the spine to do anything serious (which means flying ALL OF THEM to Rwanda for a few months) and we simply have to tolerate 40-100,000 crossing the Channel every year and letting them stay. At least they are the hardier and more enterprising, given that they have made it all the way to Calais and then successfully crossed. It is Darwinian selection at work
I bet there is massive overlap between people who get worked up about migrant crossings and people who get worked up about cyclists running red lights. Both reflect anger at people breaking the rules (without wondering whether the rules are fair or sensible) and fear that someone is gaining some advantage that isn't available to them. In both cases I would tend to step back and take a more balanced view. In the case of the migrants, think about what they are escaping from and what they these highly motivated people who really want to be here could add to our economy. In the case of the cyclists, think about how they are aiding the flow of traffic. But of course some people just enjoy the visceral thrill of the gut rage too much to surrender to reason.
Absurd comparison. People who run red lights are dicks 94.5% of the time and putting themselves and others in danger. I appreciate that it might be hugely challenging to work out what possible reason there could be for wanting people to stop at red lights, or indeed whether such a rule is "fair or sensible", but I'm sure with a little bit of contemplation you'll get there.
Morning all.
On the other hand, pedestrians aren't required to stop at red lights in the UK, which you must find extremely puzzling.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Lies. TheresaHY is the only expert we need on the Church.
It's a bit like claiming that Easter Sunday is all that it's at when the entire ritual and liturgical process toward it of Holy Week is an integral part.
Holy week may lead up to it but Easter still does not start until Easter Sunday
Just a thought about whether letters could go in to get rid of Boris.
I'm a traditional Tory voter who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I could just about stomach all the rubbish that has gone on lately because I saw the alternative as being worse. But is it really worse now? The Tories have turned into Labour splashing the cash indiscriminately. They are going to give me (and millions of others) a cash handout and then up my taxes to pay for it. That is not the Conservative way. That is classic Labour policy.
I have now turned. The Tories will not get my vote with Boris in charge as they are basically Labour in disguise. I'm obviously not going to vote Labour but the lack of my vote makes it far more likely others will get in. We have a council by-election coming up soon. I may just give a vote to the Greens for their local sustainable approach.
Now, if how I feel is how Tory MPs feel then maybe they might just send in their letters (e.g. John Redwood). It might not be partygate but instead the transformation of the Tory Party into the Labour Party.
I agree with everything you wrote, but couldn't vote for the Greens as they are Watermelons that are almost as bad as Corbyn's Labour.
The only ones I could just about stomach are the Lib Dems, but their NIMBYism puts me off. Other than that, who is a socially liberal, dry as dust conservative supposed to vote for?
You call yourself a 'social liberal' but you voted for the Brexit Party in 2019 and support sending people to Rwanda. You are an extreme reactionary who makes HYUFD look very moderate.
I cast a protest vote in 2019 in part to get rid of an authoritarian anti-immigration PM that I despised. The Brexit Party were no more than a tool for that as far as I was concerned, it also ousted Nigel Farage from the European Parliament so another win there.
I am not a reactionary, I am very pro-immigration and am happy to have a liberalised immigration system that is fair to all regardless of where in the planet they were born, or what the colour of their skin is, rather than prioritising primarily white Europeans over the rest of the planet.
I hate that there is no better solution than the Rwanda one, but the Channel is not safe to cross via people smugglers and it causes misery and drownings and every other policy has failed to fix that, offshore relocation works. It halted such movements with Australia, which has more people proportionately immigrating than the UK does.
I'd be quite happy to have an Australian-style system where that means twice as many people arrive proportionately as do now, but those people are fairly able to get visas from around the world, and people don't drown in the English Channel getting here.
That's not what the reactionaries want, or what they mean by Australian-style.
Migrant crossings: Afghans are largest national group fleeing to UK
People fleeing Afghanistan were the largest group among migrants crossing the Channel in the early part of 2022.
Afghans made up one in four people making the risky journey, following the Taliban's return to power last summer.
New figures show almost as many Afghans crossed the Channel in the first three months of this year (1,094) as in the whole of 2021 (1,323).
In nine out of ten cases over the last year, people fleeing Afghanistan were granted refugee status.
I don't see how Australian style points systems affects this, unless there's a "refugee" box you can tick on the visa application.
Most of the Channel crossers are granted refugee/asylum status because they have destroyed their passports and any ID documents (“Oh I lost them in Belarus”). We have no choice but to accept them
It looks like Patel’s Rwanda plan is going to fail, the govt haven’t got the spine to do anything serious (which means flying ALL OF THEM to Rwanda for a few months) and we simply have to tolerate 40-100,000 crossing the Channel every year and letting them stay. At least they are the hardier and more enterprising, given that they have made it all the way to Calais and then successfully crossed. It is Darwinian selection at work
I bet there is massive overlap between people who get worked up about migrant crossings and people who get worked up about cyclists running red lights. Both reflect anger at people breaking the rules (without wondering whether the rules are fair or sensible) and fear that someone is gaining some advantage that isn't available to them. In both cases I would tend to step back and take a more balanced view. In the case of the migrants, think about what they are escaping from and what they these highly motivated people who really want to be here could add to our economy. In the case of the cyclists, think about how they are aiding the flow of traffic. But of course some people just enjoy the visceral thrill of the gut rage too much to surrender to reason.
Absurd comparison. People who run red lights are dicks 94.5% of the time and putting themselves and others in danger. I appreciate that it might be hugely challenging to work out what possible reason there could be for wanting people to stop at red lights, or indeed whether such a rule is "fair or sensible", but I'm sure with a little bit of contemplation you'll get there.
Morning all.
On the other hand, pedestrians aren't required to stop at red lights in the UK, which you must find extremely puzzling.
Yes they are. They are required to stop when the little man is red. When it is green they can go.
Christmas starts when Mince Pies go on sale in the supermarkets. The premium tier ones, not the crappy standard ones.
I don't think that happens, I always hope to score a year's iron rations of xmas pudding and stilton but it all just vanishes on Boxing Day. in tesco anyway.
Boxing day easter eggs are the new September christmas section in Selfridges
Mini Eggs are fine at any time starting from Boxing Day. But I found it very difficult to find them in the last couple of weeks before Easter this year.
And, for the love of god, why don't they sell short Twiglets in tubs all year round?
She’s now entirely immobile. Which means she is either asleep - thus proving that all those warnings about plastic bags being dangerous and “never put them over your head” were just sinister disinformation pushed by the PAPER bag industry - or she’s dead
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Ironic really given the cost of fuel. Complete waste of expensive energy.
*checks*
And "every town and city in the UK" appears to be demonstrably untrue, on a quick google check.
Given the SNP had ruled out new oil fields in Scotland don't you Nationalists dare have the cheek to complain about lack of energy!!
You really do need to do your homework. Oil fields are not a devolved matter. It was HMG that ruled it out (but have now U-turned). We would have been in a better position energy wise if HMG had been more supportive of renewables.
The UK has amongst the highest percentage of renewable in the developed world, it is however Sturgeon who has ruled out new oil fields
And Ms S is pointing out the blindingly obvious - that it will take too long to develop new oilfields to reesolve the current crisis.
No wonder the UK is in the current state when this is the level of strategic thinking coming from the Tories. CAlendars are there for a reason, and not just Advent calendars.
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Lies. TheresaHY is the only expert we need on the Church.
It's a bit like claiming that Easter Sunday is all that it's at when the entire ritual and liturgical process toward it of Holy Week is an integral part.
Holy week may lead up to it but Easter still does not start until Easter Sunday
Which would be "Easter Season".
your exact words were "Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th"
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Must be news to many with the Advent Calendars and Christmas food, music, parties, decorations, trees etc that Advent is "not Christmas" according to HYUFD.
Advent begins 27 November, which will be around when we would put our tree up. I guess HYUFD doesn't bother until the 25th December.
As an atheist for me I find Christmas starts when I decide it starts.
I used to say the first time you see the Coca Cola Christmas van advert on TV but since I don't want much commercial TV anymore, that has to be switched to the Starbucks red cups now instead.
Alternatively Halloween is October, then you have Guy Fawkes, and any time after Guy Fawkes is acceptable.
Christmas stuff before Halloween is an absolute no no.
Christmas adverts, and (reluctantly) music in shops - 1st November Everything else - 1st December Decorations down - some point in mid January, depending when we're (ok, she is) doing the cleaning anyway.
Seems reasonable but we typically take our decorations down second of January.
New Year's is part of the festive period so keep it up for that, but we have a birthday in early January so make sure it's down before then so that all the fuss can be about the birthday girl instead of Christmas.
My daughter's can be savage though. Boxing Day last year she woke up and said can she go to school now since Christmas is over, I explained no she's still on holiday, so then she asked if we could take the tree down since Christmas is over.
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Have you bumped in Prof Pagel by any chance?
I’m not joking. She’s now moved and she’s stretching out to have a nice Kip. With a plastic bag over her head
Is she trying to asphyxiate herself? Reminds me of the airplane scene. You don't think it is your conversational skills that drive people to such extremes is it @Leon?
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Ironic really given the cost of fuel. Complete waste of expensive energy.
*checks*
And "every town and city in the UK" appears to be demonstrably untrue, on a quick google check.
Given the SNP had ruled out new oil fields in Scotland don't you Nationalists dare have the cheek to complain about lack of energy!!
You really do need to do your homework. Oil fields are not a devolved matter. It was HMG that ruled it out (but have now U-turned). We would have been in a better position energy wise if HMG had been more supportive of renewables.
The UK has amongst the highest percentage of renewable in the developed world, it is however Sturgeon who has ruled out new oil fields
And Ms S is pointing out the blindingly obvious - that it will take too long to develop new oilfields to reesolve the current crisis.
No wonder the UK is in the current state when this is the level of strategic thinking coming from the Tories. CAlendars are there for a reason, and not just Advent calendars.
Your highly incomplete and hopelessly biased interpretation of a commitment away from oil to other energy sources, not to mention international commitments on global warming.
Just a thought about whether letters could go in to get rid of Boris.
I'm a traditional Tory voter who is socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I could just about stomach all the rubbish that has gone on lately because I saw the alternative as being worse. But is it really worse now? The Tories have turned into Labour splashing the cash indiscriminately. They are going to give me (and millions of others) a cash handout and then up my taxes to pay for it. That is not the Conservative way. That is classic Labour policy.
I have now turned. The Tories will not get my vote with Boris in charge as they are basically Labour in disguise. I'm obviously not going to vote Labour but the lack of my vote makes it far more likely others will get in. We have a council by-election coming up soon. I may just give a vote to the Greens for their local sustainable approach.
Now, if how I feel is how Tory MPs feel then maybe they might just send in their letters (e.g. John Redwood). It might not be partygate but instead the transformation of the Tory Party into the Labour Party.
I agree with everything you wrote, but couldn't vote for the Greens as they are Watermelons that are almost as bad as Corbyn's Labour.
The only ones I could just about stomach are the Lib Dems, but their NIMBYism puts me off. Other than that, who is a socially liberal, dry as dust conservative supposed to vote for?
You call yourself a 'social liberal' but you voted for the Brexit Party in 2019 and support sending people to Rwanda. You are an extreme reactionary who makes HYUFD look very moderate.
I cast a protest vote in 2019 in part to get rid of an authoritarian anti-immigration PM that I despised. The Brexit Party were no more than a tool for that as far as I was concerned, it also ousted Nigel Farage from the European Parliament so another win there.
I am not a reactionary, I am very pro-immigration and am happy to have a liberalised immigration system that is fair to all regardless of where in the planet they were born, or what the colour of their skin is, rather than prioritising primarily white Europeans over the rest of the planet.
I hate that there is no better solution than the Rwanda one, but the Channel is not safe to cross via people smugglers and it causes misery and drownings and every other policy has failed to fix that, offshore relocation works. It halted such movements with Australia, which has more people proportionately immigrating than the UK does.
I'd be quite happy to have an Australian-style system where that means twice as many people arrive proportionately as do now, but those people are fairly able to get visas from around the world, and people don't drown in the English Channel getting here.
That's not what the reactionaries want, or what they mean by Australian-style.
Migrant crossings: Afghans are largest national group fleeing to UK
People fleeing Afghanistan were the largest group among migrants crossing the Channel in the early part of 2022.
Afghans made up one in four people making the risky journey, following the Taliban's return to power last summer.
New figures show almost as many Afghans crossed the Channel in the first three months of this year (1,094) as in the whole of 2021 (1,323).
In nine out of ten cases over the last year, people fleeing Afghanistan were granted refugee status.
I don't see how Australian style points systems affects this, unless there's a "refugee" box you can tick on the visa application.
Most of the Channel crossers are granted refugee/asylum status because they have destroyed their passports and any ID documents (“Oh I lost them in Belarus”). We have no choice but to accept them
It looks like Patel’s Rwanda plan is going to fail, the govt haven’t got the spine to do anything serious (which means flying ALL OF THEM to Rwanda for a few months) and we simply have to tolerate 40-100,000 crossing the Channel every year and letting them stay. At least they are the hardier and more enterprising, given that they have made it all the way to Calais and then successfully crossed. It is Darwinian selection at work
I bet there is massive overlap between people who get worked up about migrant crossings and people who get worked up about cyclists running red lights. Both reflect anger at people breaking the rules (without wondering whether the rules are fair or sensible) and fear that someone is gaining some advantage that isn't available to them. In both cases I would tend to step back and take a more balanced view. In the case of the migrants, think about what they are escaping from and what they these highly motivated people who really want to be here could add to our economy. In the case of the cyclists, think about how they are aiding the flow of traffic. But of course some people just enjoy the visceral thrill of the gut rage too much to surrender to reason.
That doesn't really seem to fit with London being the place of maximum conflict and also the alleged 'progressive' centre of the UK.
It all fits. The cyclists running the red lights are Londoners, the white van men and cabbies raging at it drive in from Kent or Essex. It's the 48 vs the 52 played out on our roads. Cyclists from nowhere vs motorists from somewhere, pedal powered remoaner elitists versus stout motorist yeomanry.
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
She’s now entirely immobile. Which means she is either asleep - thus proving that all those warnings about plastic bags being dangerous and “never put them over your head” were just sinister disinformation pushed by the PAPER bag industry - or she’s dead
Everyone on the bus is being excessively British - for Greeks - and politely ignoring the old lady who has a 2 in 5 chance of dying before we reach Corinth
How much of a big deal do people think the Jubilee celebrations will be?
It's possible that they will act to draw a line under the whole affair, a forgiveness of past sins, and a fresh start.
My 4 year old son had his playgroup jubilee party ("for the Queen") yesterday. He was pretty dispapointed that the Queen didn't bother to turn up; I think he might now be a republican
More seriously, I think the CoL situation might limit what people want to do. But then, I was sceptical of there being much fuss for the last jubilee and that turned out to be a fairly big deal.
For me it will be no deal at all, totally ignored.
We had booked a narrowboat holiday before realising it meant leaving home, where the jubilee is being ignored, and going to Middle England, where we fear it will be all around us. 😱
Haven't seen a single Union Flag. Apart from the giant one all over the front of the UKG HQ near Waverley Station. But that is always there.
We have been travelling throughout the West Highlands during the past three weeks. Nowhere was there any evidence of the forthcoming jubilee.
The Jubilee doesn't start until Thursday with the beacon lighting in towns and cities across the UK, including Scotland
The Jubilee began weeks ago in Primary Schools at the very least and has reached a crescendo this week.
This week we've had our kids come home with union flags they'd painted at school, they had a "street party" in the playground on Wednesday, and a Jubilee Ball after school yesterday. The school is completely bedecked in flags, bunting and pictures of the Queen.
So what, the Jubilee still does not officially start until Thursday when the beacons are lit whatever schools may be doing
Pish posh, what the schools are doing has been officially organised and I bet there are far more people involved with primary schools (and I bet secondary are doing similar) as are involved with beacons.
Thursday may be the start of the Bank Holiday weekend, but plenty of Jubilee stuff is already underway. I'd have thought you'd be happy with that, but I guess you'd rather have a stick somewhere uncomfortable instead.
Beacons are being lit in every town and city in the UK. Primary school celebrations are mainly for them and their parents
Primary schools are in every town and city in the UK too.
You're being as ridiculous as someone saying Christmas doesn't start until 25 December when people have Christmas Trees and Christmas songs and Christmas parties all throughout December.
Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th, the first day of Christmas
"Christmas season" being advent. Which starts way before that. As you surely know Theresa being the daughter of a clergyman and all.
Lies. TheresaHY is the only expert we need on the Church.
It's a bit like claiming that Easter Sunday is all that it's at when the entire ritual and liturgical process toward it of Holy Week is an integral part.
Holy week may lead up to it but Easter still does not start until Easter Sunday
Which would be "Easter Season".
your exact words were "Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th"
Which is laughable. As usual.
Christmas does not start until Christmas Day, Easter not until Easter Sunday.
However even if you said Easter Season starts with Holy Week for example, the Jubilee Season does not start properly until the lighting of the beacons on Thursday which also is the exact day of the Coronation anniversary
I’m on a loooooooong bus ride from Preveza to Athens. The old woman in the seat behind me is the most extreme case of covid-paranoia I have ever witnessed
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
Have you bumped in Prof Pagel by any chance?
I’m not joking. She’s now moved and she’s stretching out to have a nice Kip. With a plastic bag over her head
Bloke got off an almost empty bus as i was walking home last night wearing an FFP3 and wandered up the lonely road in it. He's been well indoctrinated. Meanwhile mask study out of Kansas she say masks caused more death, and we now know asymptomatic spread was way overplayed . Go figure.
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At my son's playgroup they did some things this week only, making decorations and the aforementioned party. Learned a song too, to the tune of London Bridge is Falling Down - Seventy years on the throne, on the throne, on the throne, Buckingham Palace is her home, Queen Elizabeth. Classic stuff
His cousins' school had some events too, including a portrait (of QE2) competition.
Mind you, the playgroup and primary school will mark just about anything going. Ideas for fun activities, I guess.
Morning all.
https://www.churchofengland.org/our-faith/what-we-believe/advent-and-christmas
It is about the US returning items they have confiscated from smugglers.
Smugglers have looted Iraq of thousands of ancient artifacts, many dating back 4,000 years, in the two decades since the US invasion and fall of Saddam Hussein.
Many of Iraq’s stolen antiquities have ended up in museums and personal collections in the United States – a dynamic depriving Iraqis the fruits of their own history.
On Tuesday, some of that historical record was set straight when Iraq said that the United States handed back more than 17,000 smuggled artifacts confiscated by U.S. authorities.
Iraqi Culture Minister Hasan Nadhim called the restitution “the largest in the history of Iraq,” according to the Associated Press. He said the Iraqi government and its embassy in Washington had been working for months on the arrangement.
Advent begins 27 November, which will be around when we would put our tree up. I guess HYUFD doesn't bother until the 25th December.
Edit: forgot to add: metropolitan university-educated liberal elite 'experts' too
She is wearing a robust mask. FFP3 or whatever. But over that, indeed over her entire head, she is wearing a clear plastic bag. I kid you not
One of those plastic bags which has a warning on it: do not put this over your head
She has probably reduced her 0.2% chance of catching Covid down to 0.003%, but I’d rate her chances of dying of hypoxia at about 36%, especially if she falls asleep
However, given that I live in the heart of leftie/green land, I can't help but think that this doesn't actually indicate an upsurge in monarchism, but is more an excuse to have fun over a long weekend in the summer. I've not seen any royal paraphernalia or flags either on display or for sale.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61603902
It seems the magic money forest is boundless.
Edit: and HMG is doing its best to reduce the energy stocks and promote global warming with this beacon stuff. Who do they think they are, Henry VIII?
Missing element from the analysis is the age of voters. Boris's naughty schoolboy schtick doesn't play with Da Yoof at all.
Wallace I agree. Hunt. Mordaunt and Sunak possibly. Javid?
Advent, Christmastide and Epiphanytide ending at Candlemas and the presentation of Christ at the temple can be reasonably said to mark the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ each year
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/politics/scottish-politics/4041698/nicola-sturgeon-splits-on-oil/
Plus the Cons are now hooked to him. Hunt isn't going to rise up, and all the others are pale imitations of Party leaders vs Boris.
The Conservative Party will stand or fall with Boris at the helm at the next GE and they very well might stand.
And Ms S is pointing out the blindingly obvious - that it will take too long to develop new oilfields to reesolve the current crisis.
No wonder the UK is in the current state when this is the level of strategic thinking coming from the Tories. CAlendars are there for a reason, and not just Advent calendars.
(Joke, for the avoidance of doubt...)
https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk
Wind 36%
Solar 23%
Hydro 1%
Alternatively Halloween is October, then you have Guy Fawkes, and any time after Guy Fawkes is acceptable.
Christmas stuff before Halloween is an absolute no no.
Meanwhile mask study out of Kansas she say masks caused more death, and we now know asymptomatic spread was way overplayed . Go figure.
Stubborn bastard, ain't I?
Everything else - 1st December
Decorations down - some point in mid January, depending when we're (ok, she is) doing the cleaning anyway.
And, for the love of god, why don't they sell short Twiglets in tubs all year round?
https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1530130395794227200
The idea is a European Commonwealth including Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic states and possibly Turkey.
https://www.corriere.it/economia/finanza/22_maggio_26/piano-segreto-boris-johnson-dividere-l-ucraina-russia-ue-commonwealth-europeo-02d3b232-dc6b-11ec-b480-f783b433fe60.shtml
Another completely befuddling rule.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59312510.amp
your exact words were "Christmas season does not start either officially until December 25th"
Which is laughable. As usual.
New Year's is part of the festive period so keep it up for that, but we have a birthday in early January so make sure it's down before then so that all the fuss can be about the birthday girl instead of Christmas.
My daughter's can be savage though. Boxing Day last year she woke up and said can she go to school now since Christmas is over, I explained no she's still on holiday, so then she asked if we could take the tree down since Christmas is over.
However even if you said Easter Season starts with Holy Week for example, the Jubilee Season does not start properly until the lighting of the beacons on Thursday which also is the exact day of the Coronation anniversary