Yes, I think there's enough evidence from a range of polls to suggest a modest but still significant revival in Labour's fortunes in Scotland. That could be very important in a couple of year's time.
Yes. it is possible that Labour have begun the long slow climb back to relevance in Scotland
But I emphasise POSSIBLE - because this depends on the SNP's eternal hegemony finally crumbling, and that has been predicted, unsuccessfully, many times, not least by me
However all things must pass, even the supremacy of Sturgeon and the SNP-in-power, even they cannot escape the fate of Nineveh and Tyre
'Hegemony' ius a fine word, but arguably not accurate for a minority government (until recently) and a fairly semi-formal coalition-lite.
Boris Johnson says that getting caught breaking the law gives him "an even greater sense of obligation" to fulfil "levelling up" and "deliver priorities.” 🤨
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
Maybe Chamberlain shouldn't have been replaced in 1940?
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
You are mistaking the far right with the tory party, the current iteration couldn't be described as anything other than centre left giving their tax and spend policies
Read your history: fascists are always big on tax and spend. Autobahns, the E.U.R., draining the Pontine marshes etc.
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
You are mistaking the far right with the tory party, the current iteration couldn't be described as anything other than centre left giving their tax and spend policies
Read your history: fascists are always big on tax and spend. Autobahns, the E.U.R., draining the Pontine marshes etc.
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
You are mistaking the far right with the tory party, the current iteration couldn't be described as anything other than centre left giving their tax and spend policies
Read your history: fascists are always big on tax and spend. Autobahns, the E.U.R., draining the Pontine marshes etc.
The 🇬🇧 changed PM 👉🏻four times in the war in Afghanistan 👉🏻in the Iraq War 👉🏻in the Gulf War 👉🏻in the Korean War 👉🏻in the Second World War 👉🏻in the First World War 👉🏻in the Second Boer War 👉🏻in the Second Opium War 👉🏻in the Crimean War 👉🏻twice in the Peninsular War
The 🇬🇧 changed PM 👉🏻four times in the war in Afghanistan 👉🏻in the Iraq War 👉🏻in the Gulf War 👉🏻in the Korean War 👉🏻in the Second World War 👉🏻in the First World War 👉🏻in the Second Boer War 👉🏻in the Second Opium War 👉🏻in the Crimean War 👉🏻twice in the Peninsular War
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
Maybe Chamberlain shouldn't have been replaced in 1940?
Given he died in 1940 six months after leaving office that would have been a little difficult.
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
Maybe Chamberlain shouldn't have been replaced in 1940?
Given he died in 1940 that would have been a little difficult.
Yes, but not till after he was replaced, so that wasn't the primary motivation.
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
You are mistaking the far right with the tory party, the current iteration couldn't be described as anything other than centre left giving their tax and spend policies
Read your history: fascists are always big on tax and spend. Autobahns, the E.U.R., draining the Pontine marshes etc.
You missed the Wall.
The conservative party much as I despise them aren't fascists however. If you take the tack they because they are going large on tax and spend that they are fascists then so must the labour party be.
Labelling those you dislike politically as fascist is facile
"Cost of living crisis: More people are worried about their finances than about catching COVID-19 The changes reflect concerns about the rise in the cost of living, while the lifting of COVID restrictions in England has affected how people view the virus risk."
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
Maybe Chamberlain shouldn't have been replaced in 1940?
Given he died in 1940 that would have been a little difficult.
Yes, but not till after he was replaced, so that wasn't the primary motivation.
You beat me to the edit!
Edit - perhaps the more obvious answer is he should have been replaced in March 1939 when Hitler abrogated the Munich Agreement. But there wasn't an obvious successor at that stage who would have done noticeably better.
Just a hint of a feeling that this is building to an Owen Paterson moment, where you think it's outrageous but he's going to get away with it because that's what he does, and over the next 24 hours the tide turns...
The 🇬🇧 changed PM 👉🏻four times in the war in Afghanistan 👉🏻in the Iraq War 👉🏻in the Gulf War 👉🏻in the Korean War 👉🏻in the Second World War 👉🏻in the First World War 👉🏻in the Second Boer War 👉🏻in the Second Opium War 👉🏻in the Crimean War 👉🏻twice in the Peninsular War
The images suggest a civilian bloodbath in Bucha, a suburb of Kyiv. The Ukrainian government is holding Russian troops responsible. But Ukrianian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is also pointing the finger at former German Chancellor Angela Merkel. He invited her to Bucha, to see for herself "what the policy of 14 years of concessions to Russia has led to."
@ronzheimer BREAKING: German President Steinmeier was planning to come to Kyiv tomorrow, but Zelensky didn't want to meet him. Background: Steinmeier's close ties to Russia in the past years and his role with Nord Stream II and the so called „Steinmeier-Formel“.
Das war ein Befehl! Der Angriff Steinmeiers war ein Befehl! Wer sind Sie, dass Sie es wagen, sich meinen Befehlen zu widersetzen? So weit ist es also gekommen!
Just catching up, to the unbelievable sight of some PBers still dancing on the head of a pin to try to argue that Boris is innocent, OK.
Credit to HYUFD who, unless I've missed it, has not once engaged in the ludicrous argument that Boris is innocent - merely that Boris should remain in post if it is politically expedient for the Tory Party for him to do so. If the most loyal Boris supporter can accept the Met's verdict..... well.
Incidentally, is there a huge panic in France that in a couple of week's time they could have a new President during a European war? I've missed it if there is.
Abraham Lincoln thought he was going to be defeated in 1864, which would have left a lame duck presidency managing the dying months of the Civil War. Not exactly ideal.
In the end, a couple of timely victories by Union forces turned the tide in his favour.
Sadly, Boris is no Lincoln Happily, we aren't actually at war
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
You are mistaking the far right with the tory party, the current iteration couldn't be described as anything other than centre left giving their tax and spend policies
Read your history: fascists are always big on tax and spend. Autobahns, the E.U.R., draining the Pontine marshes etc.
Like Stalin's Five Year Plans then?
Indeed: totalitarians on the left tend to have much in common with totalitarians on the right.
Given that 57% in 2019 did not vote tory in 2019 why would this poll indicate anything who didn't vote for them still doesn't want them in power?
61-31 with Savanta ComRes. Apparently only 52% of 2019 Conservative voters think he should stay on.
I don't doubt it and I certainly wasn't arguing he shouldnt go. I was merely pointing out the poll you posted had a figure corresponding pretty much to those that didnt vote tory in 2019 so not sure it really told us much.
Personally I think as a country....note country not politicians talking to each other we need to have a conversation on how we are governed then sack all the current elected people and start again.
AI art is about to lay utter waste to traditional visual art forms. This will be so much more destructive than what the Internet did to music. It will be a technological conquest of one of the great human avenues of spiritual transformation.’
The 🇬🇧 changed PM 👉🏻four times in the war in Afghanistan 👉🏻in the Iraq War 👉🏻in the Gulf War 👉🏻in the Korean War 👉🏻in the Second World War 👉🏻in the First World War 👉🏻in the Second Boer War 👉🏻in the Second Opium War 👉🏻in the Crimean War 👉🏻twice in the Peninsular War
Five times during the Napoleonic wars: Addington, Pitt, Grenville, Portland, Perceval, Liverpool!
Wasn't there a c hange from Pitt to Addington as well?
What about the American War of Independence?
By the time North resigned the military campaigns were over, although it was Rockingham and then Shelburne that oversaw peace negotiations and the Peace of Paris was ratified by the Fox-North Coalition.
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
Can't even chew gum and chew gum at the same time, can they?
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
You are mistaking the far right with the tory party, the current iteration couldn't be described as anything other than centre left giving their tax and spend policies
Read your history: fascists are always big on tax and spend. Autobahns, the E.U.R., draining the Pontine marshes etc.
Like Stalin's Five Year Plans then?
Indeed: totalitarians on the left tend to have much in common with totalitarians on the right.
Well exactly, but your inference was that the Conservative party are "facists"? They aren't. Or even "far-right". In the same way even Corbyn wasn't "far-left" in comparison to many European left-wing parties.
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
You are mistaking the far right with the tory party, the current iteration couldn't be described as anything other than centre left giving their tax and spend policies
Read your history: fascists are always big on tax and spend. Autobahns, the E.U.R., draining the Pontine marshes etc.
You missed the Wall.
The conservative party much as I despise them aren't fascists however. If you take the tack they because they are going large on tax and spend that they are fascists then so must the labour party be.
Labelling those you dislike politically as fascist is facile
(sorry was meant to be a reply to rpjs)
Yeah, my dig was aimed at one person alone. Well, and the numbskulls who believe him and the evil c8nts who should know better and the spineless gits who don't speak up.
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
You are mistaking the far right with the tory party, the current iteration couldn't be described as anything other than centre left giving their tax and spend policies
Read your history: fascists are always big on tax and spend. Autobahns, the E.U.R., draining the Pontine marshes etc.
You missed the Wall.
The conservative party much as I despise them aren't fascists however. If you take the tack they because they are going large on tax and spend that they are fascists then so must the labour party be.
Labelling those you dislike politically as fascist is facile
(sorry was meant to be a reply to rpjs)
I never said the Tories are fascists. I was just pointing out that having “tax and spend” policies is not itself a disqualifier from being far-right.
Boris live on Sky and confirms he has paid the fine
Very interesting. He is confident he can shut it down at this stage.
What does Sunak do now?
What happens if Johnson gets multiple fines for multiple events?
As long as one of them isn't a 10Ker for organising an event, I don't think multiple fines are any more damaging than one fine.
Doesn't it rise as you receive further FPNs ?
It does, but I'm not sure that matters. One FPN shows he either didn't understand the rules or was trying to get round them - multiple FPNs doesn't change that.
I would like to thank the Tories for delivering a Labour Government.
A labour governement getting into power is about the only thing that would make me hold my nose and vote tory, same with many others. The one thing you can guarantee with a labour government if you are working and private sector is you will be poorer at the end of it than you were at the beginning.
I would like to thank the Tories for delivering a Labour Government.
A labour governement getting into power is about the only thing that would make me hold my nose and vote tory, same with many others. The one thing you can guarantee with a labour government if you are working and private sector is you will be poorer at the end of it than you were at the beginning.
oh?, do you think we will be richer when this mob are kicked out? They've got a long way to catch up with June 2019, or even June 2010!
Parody Boris @Parody_PM · 8m I admit that my actions are incompatible with the standards of conduct expected of my office. I have therefore decided to do the honorable thing and abolish the Ministerial Code.
I would like to thank the Tories for delivering a Labour Government.
A labour governement getting into power is about the only thing that would make me hold my nose and vote tory, same with many others. The one thing you can guarantee with a labour government if you are working and private sector is you will be poorer at the end of it than you were at the beginning.
oh?, do you think we will be richer when this mob are kicked out? They've got a long way to catch up with June 2019, or even June 2010!
Well I am richer now than in the beginning of this governement. Can't say that has ever happened under labour. So are lots of people I know.
I would like to thank the Tories for delivering a Labour Government.
A labour governement getting into power is about the only thing that would make me hold my nose and vote tory, same with many others. The one thing you can guarantee with a labour government if you are working and private sector is you will be poorer at the end of it than you were at the beginning.
oh?, do you think we will be richer when this mob are kicked out? They've got a long way to catch up with June 2019, or even June 2010!
Well I am richer now than in the beginning of this governement. Can't say that has ever happened under labour. So are lots of people I know.
"The eagle-eyed among you will have noticed the prime minister has revised the time he says spent at his own birthday party down from 10 minutes to just nine minutes during this interview."
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
You are mistaking the far right with the tory party, the current iteration couldn't be described as anything other than centre left giving their tax and spend policies
Read your history: fascists are always big on tax and spend. Autobahns, the E.U.R., draining the Pontine marshes etc.
Like Stalin's Five Year Plans then?
Indeed: totalitarians on the left tend to have much in common with totalitarians on the right.
Well exactly, but your inference was that the Conservative party are "facists"? They aren't. Or even "far-right". In the same way even Corbyn wasn't "far-left" in comparison to many European left-wing parties.
I think far left is a reasonable description of Corbyn. Being slightly more moderate than Karl Marx and Engels doesn't exactly let him off the hook.
I would like to thank the Tories for delivering a Labour Government.
A labour governement getting into power is about the only thing that would make me hold my nose and vote tory, same with many others. The one thing you can guarantee with a labour government if you are working and private sector is you will be poorer at the end of it than you were at the beginning.
oh?, do you think we will be richer when this mob are kicked out? They've got a long way to catch up with June 2019, or even June 2010!
Well I am richer now than in the beginning of this governement. Can't say that has ever happened under labour. So are lots of people I know.
oh really?
Here is a clue....no one in the general populace gives a damn about gdp, they care about how many pounds are in their pocket....gdp per capita and median gdp per capita would be a far better measure.
Since 2000 our nations gdp has trended upwards but precious little of that ended up in the pockets of the bottom 70% of the population. Going by GDP we became richer as a nation....gdp per capita not so much
I would like to thank the Tories for delivering a Labour Government.
A labour governement getting into power is about the only thing that would make me hold my nose and vote tory, same with many others. The one thing you can guarantee with a labour government if you are working and private sector is you will be poorer at the end of it than you were at the beginning.
The far right: Le Pen deserves to win because Macron is too focused on the Ukraine war. Also the far right: Boris shouldn't be replaced because he is too focused on the Ukraine war.
You are mistaking the far right with the tory party, the current iteration couldn't be described as anything other than centre left giving their tax and spend policies
Read your history: fascists are always big on tax and spend. Autobahns, the E.U.R., draining the Pontine marshes etc.
Like Stalin's Five Year Plans then?
Indeed: totalitarians on the left tend to have much in common with totalitarians on the right.
Well exactly, but your inference was that the Conservative party are "facists"? They aren't. Or even "far-right". In the same way even Corbyn wasn't "far-left" in comparison to many European left-wing parties.
I think far left is a reasonable description of Corbyn. Being slightly more moderate than Karl Marx and Engels doesn't exactly let him off the hook.
You are Mr Thicky if you think Corbyns Policies are far left
I would like to thank the Tories for delivering a Labour Government.
A labour governement getting into power is about the only thing that would make me hold my nose and vote tory, same with many others. The one thing you can guarantee with a labour government if you are working and private sector is you will be poorer at the end of it than you were at the beginning.
oh?, do you think we will be richer when this mob are kicked out? They've got a long way to catch up with June 2019, or even June 2010!
Well I am richer now than in the beginning of this governement.
So am I, but I don't see that as a general position for the nation.
I would like to thank the Tories for delivering a Labour Government.
A labour governement getting into power is about the only thing that would make me hold my nose and vote tory, same with many others. The one thing you can guarantee with a labour government if you are working and private sector is you will be poorer at the end of it than you were at the beginning.
I have been a long critic of The Clown and really want him gone, but your post does sum up my fears about Labour.
Rather depressed tonight. I have never held the UK government as some mythical entity where decency always holds and ministers can be trusted to do the right thing - I think people do look back with rose tinted spectacles most of the time. But it does feel like a Rubicon has been crossed in terms of standards in public life and the Tory Party deserves all that is coming to them at the next election. I will be voting Labour for the first time in my life - I won’t ever be anything but a very critical elector for Starmer but at least he has a fundamental sense of what is right and wrong about him and we can’t be seen to support this sort of behaviour from the Tories.
I would like to thank the Tories for delivering a Labour Government.
A labour governement getting into power is about the only thing that would make me hold my nose and vote tory, same with many others. The one thing you can guarantee with a labour government if you are working and private sector is you will be poorer at the end of it than you were at the beginning.
oh?, do you think we will be richer when this mob are kicked out? They've got a long way to catch up with June 2019, or even June 2010!
Well I am richer now than in the beginning of this governement. Can't say that has ever happened under labour. So are lots of people I know.
oh really?
Here is a clue....no one in the general populace gives a damn about gdp, they care about how many pounds are in their pocket....gdp per capita and median gdp per capita would be a far better measure.
Since 2000 our nations gdp has trended upwards but precious little of that ended up in the pockets of the bottom 70% of the population. Going by GDP we became richer as a nation....gdp per capita not so much
Do we really want someone as Prime Minister who is too dumb to realise he is at a party?
Having a dumb person as PM, so long as an eye was kept on them, could theoretically work. But let's not forget he is also the kind of person who seeks to prevent those who have done wrong from being punished, only stepping back when forced to, a la Paterson.
So he's not even well meaning, he's shown willing to use his power for nefarious purposes.
Thank goodness he's had at least a few good calls, as the above is worrying about what he'd do if he thinks he can get away things - and he's about to have a clear demonstration that he can get away with a lot.
Do we really want someone as Prime Minister who is too dumb to realise he is at a party?
Nice one
He knew full well it was a party. He just lies about it all.
Yes, but the important thing is he is willing to officially admit to being so stupid, as the only remaining explanation. No one calls on the 'I'm an idiot' defence lightly.
One thing he slightly elides is the reason dall-e is bad at faces - and hands and legs and bodies in general - it is designed that way to avoid the problems of deepfakes, porn, atrocity images, etc
It’s like a brilliant racing car with a built in 80mph speed limit.
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Tone deaf
What does Sunak do now?
Although they're often lumped together now.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2022/04/12/c5ce0/1
Makes a change from Southern Railway Malachite Green.
How about their new crime reporter?
Labelling those you dislike politically as fascist is facile
(sorry was meant to be a reply to rpjs)
"Cost of living crisis: More people are worried about their finances than about catching COVID-19
The changes reflect concerns about the rise in the cost of living, while the lifting of COVID restrictions in England has affected how people view the virus risk."
https://news.sky.com/story/cost-of-living-crisis-more-people-are-worried-about-their-finances-than-about-catching-covid-19-12588366
Edit - perhaps the more obvious answer is he should have been replaced in March 1939 when Hitler abrogated the Munich Agreement. But there wasn't an obvious successor at that stage who would have done noticeably better.
Probably wrong tho
‘Can’t get enough of DALL-E examples. Mind blown. 🤯’
https://twitter.com/jelleprins/status/1513767494850592769?s=21&t=Ji706gj2K3oHVmmRKk8H1A
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1513900596159520778?t=mFLYr5T7cfTz4b-SrN2DEg&s=19
The more that floating voters drift away, the more the remnant become fanatically loyal.
It's one of the reasons that losing parties tend to do a bit self-indulgent after their defeat.
https://c.tenor.com/MPk69-OHsa8AAAAd/downfall-steiner.gif
A sense of moral purpose is the only thing distinguishing pragmatism from self-serving opportunism.
Personally I think as a country....note country not politicians talking to each other we need to have a conversation on how we are governed then sack all the current elected people and start again.
See this figure 2.1
https://www.ippr.org/news-and-media/press-releases/revealed-trust-in-politicians-at-lowest-level-on-record
Only 5% or so believe politicians do the best for their country. That is untenable and speaks to a complete lack of faith in our system of governance
‘DALL-E is breaking my heart.
AI art is about to lay utter waste to traditional visual art forms. This will be so much more destructive than what the Internet did to music. It will be a technological conquest of one of the great human avenues of spiritual transformation.’
https://twitter.com/vividvoid_/status/1512140765656338432?s=21&t=Ji706gj2K3oHVmmRKk8H1A
The opposition "Good Morning" leaflet just said "After all this... they still expect you to vote for you?"
It was all that needed to be said. (And the Yellow Peril did indeed win.)
Imagine if she had had to defend this stuff, on the record, every single day.
Trans Penile Express
It is upto his mps now
At least there will be no pretending then…
PB Tories - what do you think? Let’s get the show on the road!
I have said before Boris could be pictured strangling Cats and get away with it.
LE2022 will now be a bloodbath even SKS can;t fook this up
https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-but-life-is-just-a-party-and-parties-weren-t-meant-to-last-prince-45-39-97.jpg
Parody Boris
@Parody_PM
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8m
I admit that my actions are incompatible with the standards of conduct expected of my office. I have therefore decided to do the honorable thing and abolish the Ministerial Code.
"The eagle-eyed among you will have noticed the prime minister has revised the time he says spent at his own birthday party down from 10 minutes to just nine minutes during this interview."
Since 2000 our nations gdp has trended upwards but precious little of that ended up in the pockets of the bottom 70% of the population. Going by GDP we became richer as a nation....gdp per capita not so much
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQJ4H_uX0AEasKu?format=jpg&name=medium
Ukraine’s 'iron general' is a hero, but he's no star
Meet Valeriy Zaluzhnyy, the commander in chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, who's quietly leading the fight against Russia's invaders.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/08/ukraines-iron-general-zaluzhnyy-00023901?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/personalandhouseholdfinances/incomeandwealth/bulletins/householddisposableincomeandinequality/financialyear2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTCyjYjsVc8
- 57% say Johnson should quit
- 57% say Sunak should quit
- 75% said Johnson "knowingly lied about breaching Covid-19 rules"
So he's not even well meaning, he's shown willing to use his power for nefarious purposes.
Thank goodness he's had at least a few good calls, as the above is worrying about what he'd do if he thinks he can get away things - and he's about to have a clear demonstration that he can get away with a lot.
If he hangs on they are finished in 2024. It will be a bloodbath. And I think he will probably personally lose his seat.
No wonder Putin thinks the West has become decadent.
One thing he slightly elides is the reason dall-e is bad at faces - and hands and legs and bodies in general - it is designed that way to avoid the problems of deepfakes, porn, atrocity images, etc
It’s like a brilliant racing car with a built in 80mph speed limit.