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If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
My comments were about Patel rather than Le Pen.
At a very great distance though Marine doesn't seem so bad.
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Interestingly, then, all the Transcaucus countries (Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan) voted to boot Russia.
It’s quite a handy list: in terms of all the countries in the world you would never want to live, with the exception of Thailand, Singapore and just maybe Bhutan?
Lots of nice holiday destinations tho
Freedom House has a map of Free countries, partly Free and Not Free:
The first episode of Slow Horses was really v impressive.
Makes the Ipcress File look like the utter (but mildly diverting) tosh that it is.
But can you break your breakfast egg with one hand?
Who is that berk they cast as the Ipcress lead? I posted on here a week or so ago that he has the charisma of a third-rate Herman von Rompuy impersonator.
The hand that broke the egg was Len Deighton iirc.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
My comments were about Patel rather than Le Pen.
At a very great distance though Marine doesn't seem so bad.
I recommend zooming in a bit, with one of those coin-per-view telescopes you get at the top of the Eiffel Tower, or Montmartre.
Le Pen started on the other side of the line and as far as I concerned her moderation (such as it is) comes way too late in the day. A leopard doesn’t change its spots *that* much.
Likewise I wouldn’t start supporting Nick Griffin if he suddenly started saying that the Lib Dems have a point about Brexit.
In this (UK) country, we’ve largely avoided mainstream politicians crossing the line. Farage is currently sitting on it, or has perhaps crossed over, I’m afraid I don’t follow him on TikTok so I’m not sure.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
The Russian social media operation have done a superb job of weaponising discontent over Iraq and Afghanistan all over the world.
Russia? Most of them are Chinese client states.
That certainly explains the Caribbean nonsense (save Cuba).
Yes, but the Russians have reactivated a Cold War Third World sense of solidarity by activating thousands of trolls and bots to spread questions along the lines "and why didn't it matter in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq" throughout the social media space.
Because of the double-standard sense of great power machinations in their regions being largely ignored and unknown in the West throughout the Cold War, many places such as latin america and the carribean ( and Africa ) are the understandably receptive to this kind of direct message, and fairly straightforward redirecting propaganda.
I really doubt this.
It’s just China. The mighty and growing power of the world’s biggest trading nation: more important to all these nations than AUKUS/EU
China is clearly on Russia’s side, for now. Why piss off your most important trading counterpart - and growing source of so much investment - in a relatively unimportant vote (to your nation)?
Abstain. Makes total sense
That's the UN, though, which may also have specific diplomatic guardrails linked to China. Look more generally at the online response throughout the world, outside north america and europe, and particularly in poorer regions.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
Not by me it isn't.
I just wish France didn't keep ending up with a choice of two deeply flawed characters.
It seems in France, shit perennially floats to the political top.
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
The Russian social media operation have done a superb job of weaponising discontent over Iraq and Afghanistan all over the world.
Russia? Most of them are Chinese client states.
That certainly explains the Caribbean nonsense (save Cuba).
Yes, but the Russians have reactivated a Cold War Third World sense of solidarity by activating thousands of trolls and bots to spread questions along the lines "and why didn't it matter in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq" throughout the social media space.
Because of the double-standard sense of great power machinations in their regions being largely ignored and unknown in the West throughout the Cold War, many places such as latin america and the carribean ( and Africa ) are the understandably receptive to this kind of direct message, and fairly straightforward redirecting propaganda.
I really doubt this.
It’s just China. The mighty and growing power of the world’s biggest trading nation: more important to all these nations than AUKUS/EU
China is clearly on Russia’s side, for now. Why piss off your most important trading counterpart - and growing source of so much investment - in a relatively unimportant vote (to your nation)?
Abstain. Makes total sense
That's the UN. Look at the online response throughout the world.
I just don’t believe the internet is that powerful in all these countries
Besides, most of them aren’t democracies so they won’t care what their people think
It’s realpolitik. Don’t annoy China. The next hegemon
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
My comments were about Patel rather than Le Pen.
At a very great distance though Marine doesn't seem so bad.
I recommend zooming in a bit, with one of those coin-per-view telescopes you get at the top of the Eiffel Tower, or Montmartre.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
My comments were about Patel rather than Le Pen.
At a very great distance though Marine doesn't seem so bad.
For me the same applies to anyone. Fans of Patel should be fine saying they are fans. Fans of Trump should say they are Trump fans. Same on the other side for Corbynites etc.
Instead there seems to be a whole "code" where people want to show support for them through phrases like it being funny/exciting, or to blame the centrists for not giving them better candidates.
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
The Russian social media operation have done a superb job of weaponising discontent over Iraq and Afghanistan all over the world.
Russia? Most of them are Chinese client states.
That certainly explains the Caribbean nonsense (save Cuba).
Yes, but the Russians have reactivated a Cold War Third World sense of solidarity by activating thousands of trolls and bots to spread questions along the lines "and why didn't it matter in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq" throughout the social media space.
Because of the double-standard sense of great power machinations in their regions being largely ignored and unknown in the West throughout the Cold War, many places such as latin america and the carribean ( and Africa ) are the understandably receptive to this kind of direct message, and fairly straightforward redirecting propaganda.
I really doubt this.
It’s just China. The mighty and growing power of the world’s biggest trading nation: more important to all these nations than AUKUS/EU
China is clearly on Russia’s side, for now. Why piss off your most important trading counterpart - and growing source of so much investment - in a relatively unimportant vote (to your nation)?
Abstain. Makes total sense
True dat. It's not just that these places trade with China, China owns them. When I Cape to Cairoed 2006-7 every infrastructure project all the way up was Chinese. When I was in Cape Verde in February two locals on different islands spontaneously raised the subject of, and bitterly resented, the Great Chinese Buy Up Of Everything there.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
Brexit encouraged Putin.
Not least because he helped pay to bring it about.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
Not by me it isn't.
I just wish France didn't keep ending up with a choice of two deeply flawed characters.
It seems in France, shit perennially floats to the political top.
Lol. Have you been abroad for the past few years?
But seriously, who was the last French politician it was possible to admire from afar?
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
The Russian social media operation have done a superb job of weaponising discontent over Iraq and Afghanistan all over the world.
Russia? Most of them are Chinese client states.
That certainly explains the Caribbean nonsense (save Cuba).
Yes, but the Russians have reactivated a Cold War Third World sense of solidarity by activating thousands of trolls and bots to spread questions along the lines "and why didn't it matter in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq" throughout the social media space.
Because of the double-standard sense of great power machinations in their regions being largely ignored and unknown in the West throughout the Cold War, many places such as latin america and the carribean ( and Africa ) are the understandably receptive to this kind of direct message, and fairly straightforward redirecting propaganda.
I really doubt this.
It’s just China. The mighty and growing power of the world’s biggest trading nation: more important to all these nations than AUKUS/EU
China is clearly on Russia’s side, for now. Why piss off your most important trading counterpart - and growing source of so much investment - in a relatively unimportant vote (to your nation)?
Abstain. Makes total sense
That's the UN. Look at the online response throughout the world.
I just don’t believe the internet is that powerful in all these countries
Besides, most of them aren’t democracies so they won’t care what their people think
It’s realpolitik. Don’t annoy China. The next hegemon
It's more at the popular level, I would say. The "and why don't Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan matter" line has been repeated and re-tweeted possibly millions of times on social media now, with clear signs of the kind of equivalent Russian involvement as in Europe or the U.S earlier on. It's difficult to quantify the results, but they will be there.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
Not by me it isn't.
I just wish France didn't keep ending up with a choice of two deeply flawed characters.
It seems in France, shit perennially floats to the political top.
Lol. Have you been abroad for the past few years?
But seriously, who was the last French politician it was possible to admire from afar?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Er, because no one has expressed that sentiment? You can only go by what people say
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
Not by me it isn't.
I just wish France didn't keep ending up with a choice of two deeply flawed characters.
It seems in France, shit perennially floats to the political top.
Lol. Have you been abroad for the past few years?
But seriously, who was the last French politician it was possible to admire from afar?
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
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If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
My comments were about Patel rather than Le Pen.
At a very great distance though Marine doesn't seem so bad.
I recommend zooming in a bit, with one of those coin-per-view telescopes you get at the top of the Eiffel Tower, or Montmartre.
With your coin spent, what do you report?
A diagnosis of Putinism and racial instability, and an urgent call to the Mairie for a doctor.
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
The Russian social media operation have done a superb job of weaponising discontent over Iraq and Afghanistan all over the world.
Russia? Most of them are Chinese client states.
That certainly explains the Caribbean nonsense (save Cuba).
Yes, but the Russians have reactivated a Cold War Third World sense of solidarity by activating thousands of trolls and bots to spread questions along the lines "and why didn't it matter in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq" throughout the social media space.
Because of the double-standard sense of great power machinations in their regions being largely ignored and unknown in the West throughout the Cold War, many places such as latin america and the carribean ( and Africa ) are the understandably receptive to this kind of direct message, and fairly straightforward redirecting propaganda.
I really doubt this.
It’s just China. The mighty and growing power of the world’s biggest trading nation: more important to all these nations than AUKUS/EU
China is clearly on Russia’s side, for now. Why piss off your most important trading counterpart - and growing source of so much investment - in a relatively unimportant vote (to your nation)?
Abstain. Makes total sense
That's the UN. Look at the online response throughout the world.
I just don’t believe the internet is that powerful in all these countries
Besides, most of them aren’t democracies so they won’t care what their people think
It’s realpolitik. Don’t annoy China. The next hegemon
It's more at the popular level, I would say. The "and why don't Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan matter" line has been repeated and re-tweeted possibly millions of times on social media now, with clear signs of the kind of equivalent Russian involvement as in Europe or the U.S earlier on. It's difficult to quantify the results, but they will be there.
Naah. The good folk of North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, etc are by no means glued to twitter 24/7, and if they were their rulers don't give a fuck what they think anyway.
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If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
My comments were about Patel rather than Le Pen.
At a very great distance though Marine doesn't seem so bad.
I recommend zooming in a bit, with one of those coin-per-view telescopes you get at the top of the Eiffel Tower, or Montmartre.
With your coin spent, what do you report?
A diagnosis of Putinism and racial instability, and an urgent call to the Mairie for a doctor.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
Not by me it isn't.
I just wish France didn't keep ending up with a choice of two deeply flawed characters.
It seems in France, shit perennially floats to the political top.
Lol. Have you been abroad for the past few years?
But seriously, who was the last French politician it was possible to admire from afar?
The French system is shit. The fifth republic has issued up a series of chancers, crooks and megalomaniacs.
It’s a good question you ask; Pompidou? He died half way through but he “left” the best modern art museum in the world.
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
The Russian social media operation have done a superb job of weaponising discontent over Iraq and Afghanistan all over the world.
Russia? Most of them are Chinese client states.
That certainly explains the Caribbean nonsense (save Cuba).
Yes, but the Russians have reactivated a Cold War Third World sense of solidarity by activating thousands of trolls and bots to spread questions along the lines "and why didn't it matter in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq" throughout the social media space.
Because of the double-standard sense of great power machinations in their regions being largely ignored and unknown in the West throughout the Cold War, many places such as latin america and the carribean ( and Africa ) are the understandably receptive to this kind of direct message, and fairly straightforward redirecting propaganda.
I really doubt this.
It’s just China. The mighty and growing power of the world’s biggest trading nation: more important to all these nations than AUKUS/EU
China is clearly on Russia’s side, for now. Why piss off your most important trading counterpart - and growing source of so much investment - in a relatively unimportant vote (to your nation)?
Abstain. Makes total sense
That's the UN. Look at the online response throughout the world.
I just don’t believe the internet is that powerful in all these countries
Besides, most of them aren’t democracies so they won’t care what their people think
It’s realpolitik. Don’t annoy China. The next hegemon
It's more at the popular level, I would say. The "and why don't Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan matter" line has been repeated and re-tweeted possibly millions of times on social media now, with clear signs of the kind of equivalent Russian involvement as in Europe or the U.S earlier on. It's difficult to quantify the results, but they will be there.
Naah. The good folk of North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, etc are by no means glued to twitter 24/7, and if they were their rulers don't give a fuck what they think anyway.
Tho I do like the idea that the North Korean politburo are all staring at TikTok in horror and saying
“Christ, the Russians have got a really good meme game going. Everyone is watching this in the dog meat bars of Pyongyang. And these Putin gifs are superb. We have to go with Russia”
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
The Russian social media operation have done a superb job of weaponising discontent over Iraq and Afghanistan all over the world.
Russia? Most of them are Chinese client states.
That certainly explains the Caribbean nonsense (save Cuba).
Yes, but the Russians have reactivated a Cold War Third World sense of solidarity by activating thousands of trolls and bots to spread questions along the lines "and why didn't it matter in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq" throughout the social media space.
Because of the double-standard sense of great power machinations in their regions being largely ignored and unknown in the West throughout the Cold War, many places such as latin america and the carribean ( and Africa ) are the understandably receptive to this kind of direct message, and fairly straightforward redirecting propaganda.
I really doubt this.
It’s just China. The mighty and growing power of the world’s biggest trading nation: more important to all these nations than AUKUS/EU
China is clearly on Russia’s side, for now. Why piss off your most important trading counterpart - and growing source of so much investment - in a relatively unimportant vote (to your nation)?
Abstain. Makes total sense
That's the UN. Look at the online response throughout the world.
I just don’t believe the internet is that powerful in all these countries
Besides, most of them aren’t democracies so they won’t care what their people think
It’s realpolitik. Don’t annoy China. The next hegemon
It's more at the popular level, I would say. The "and why don't Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan matter" line has been repeated and re-tweeted possibly millions of times on social media now, with clear signs of the kind of equivalent Russian involvement as in Europe or the U.S earlier on. It's difficult to quantify the results, but they will be there.
Naah. The good folk of North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, etc are by no means glued to twitter 24/7, and if they were their rulers don't give a fuck what they think anyway.
Well, there are two separate issues. Some of these countries will indeed have been roped in as an authoritarian pro-China vote, on a specific diplomatic and UN issue. But there's also the issue of global public opinion outside the West more generally, intersecting with some of the other countries on the list, and that's where I think the phenomenon I'm discussing would be more relevant.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Er, because no one has expressed that sentiment? You can only go by what people say
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
Whatever
It would be quite extraordinary to have many posters who are quite keen on authoritarian nationalism and protectionism, but none of them favour an authoritarian nationalist protectionist.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Er, because no one has expressed that sentiment? You can only go by what people say
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
Whatever
I want her to win because she reminds me of Carolyn Martens off Killing Eve, and I like her.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
Not by me it isn't.
I just wish France didn't keep ending up with a choice of two deeply flawed characters.
It seems in France, shit perennially floats to the political top.
Lol. Have you been abroad for the past few years?
But seriously, who was the last French politician it was possible to admire from afar?
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
I think you may mean satellite or some other phrase.
London did not colonise all of these other places.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Er, because no one has expressed that sentiment? You can only go by what people say
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
Whatever
You don’t need to look into the soul.
Just, when a poster has a history of boosting Putin and Le Pen, and often returns to the subjects of Gabriele d’Annunzio, you get a strong feeling.
Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 @IAPonomarenko · 3h In key cities of Ukrainian-controlled Donbas, mass evacuation of civilians. Local authorities call an everyone to leave while it’s still possible. I’m afraid cities like Severodonetsk, Slovyansk, Kramatorsk will be largely ruined. A big battle is gathering.
Terrible news. Sounds like the situation will get a lot worse before(if) it gets better in the East.
If the experts are right Russia won't be in a fit state to launch another offensive anytime soon. If Putin is determined to go ahead immediately because of the railway timetable sorry 9th May parade he has planned then that's probably a good thing.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
I think you may mean satellite or some other phrase.
London did not colonise all of these other places.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
London is the biggest colony of all - ruled over by a government that we didn't vote for, taken out of the EU against our will, taxed relentlessly to subsidise everyone else, and endlessly told that we are not properly British while being blamed for everyone else's problems.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
Don’t worry. I found it. By using “useless” Twitter. Where no one goes
“#Brexit predictive model prediction the day before: In favor of leave by about 0.6%point. emilkirkegaard.dk/understanding_…”
I got it working. It's really quite unimpressive. It's pretty much what I said. A Shiny app with a graph and a data table, and a load of data points. It shows the line juuust peaking over into Leave territory but it's no more than a smoothed graph of the polls. I would upload a screenshot but I think there's some "trick" to doing that which I don't know, if someone can advise?
I did a spreadsheet for the EU referendum results night, but it didn't predict what would happen overall, it just attempted to say how each area would vote if the result was 50/50 overall.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Hello Omnium, given we send all our money to our Lords and Masters in London and get a pittance sent back whilst they make merry splashing cash on all sorts of southern stuff and parties , booze , non dom status , tax havens , etc. Treat us like peasants etc etc , need I say more. A pleasant evening to you too.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
I think you may mean satellite or some other phrase.
London did not colonise all of these other places.
Yeh I mean it in an economic sense.
And as such you surely have to see that it's others gravitating towards London that has been the theme.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Er, because no one has expressed that sentiment? You can only go by what people say
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
Whatever
You don’t need to look into the soul.
Just, when a poster has a history of boosting Putin and Le Pen, and often returns to the subjects of Gabriele d’Annunzio, you get a strong feeling.
What the fuck is “boosting”? Seriously. What a load of childish twaddle
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
Not by me it isn't.
I just wish France didn't keep ending up with a choice of two deeply flawed characters.
It seems in France, shit perennially floats to the political top.
Lol. Have you been abroad for the past few years?
But seriously, who was the last French politician it was possible to admire from afar?
The French system is shit. The fifth republic has issued up a series of chancers, crooks and megalomaniacs.
It’s a good question you ask; Pompidou? He died half way through but he “left” the best modern art museum in the world.
I think that is fair; a French President most remembered for having the pipework on the outside!
We may have some shite politicians here but at least none has been reduced to house arrest with an ankle bracelet.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
I think you may mean satellite or some other phrase.
London did not colonise all of these other places.
Yeh I mean it in an economic sense.
And as such you surely have to see that it's others gravitating towards London that has been the theme.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
London is the biggest colony of all - ruled over by a government that we didn't vote for, taken out of the EU against our will, taxed relentlessly to subsidise everyone else, and endlessly told that we are not properly British while being blamed for everyone else's problems.
You shouldn't take it so personally - nobody actually thinks that you have the clout to cause anyone any problems.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
I think you may mean satellite or some other phrase.
London did not colonise all of these other places.
Yeh I mean it in an economic sense.
And as such you surely have to see that it's others gravitating towards London that has been the theme.
You are applying the wrong sense of colony.
Immigrants always gravitate to the metropole.
Is there a particular economist you're deriving this use of the term from?
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
The Russian social media operation have done a superb job of weaponising discontent over Iraq and Afghanistan all over the world.
Russia? Most of them are Chinese client states.
That certainly explains the Caribbean nonsense (save Cuba).
Yes, but the Russians have reactivated a Cold War Third World sense of solidarity by activating thousands of trolls and bots to spread questions along the lines "and why didn't it matter in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq" throughout the social media space.
Because of the double-standard sense of great power machinations in their regions being largely ignored and unknown in the West throughout the Cold War, many places such as latin america and the carribean ( and Africa ) are the understandably receptive to this kind of direct message, and fairly straightforward redirecting propaganda.
I really doubt this.
It’s just China. The mighty and growing power of the world’s biggest trading nation: more important to all these nations than AUKUS/EU
China is clearly on Russia’s side, for now. Why piss off your most important trading counterpart - and growing source of so much investment - in a relatively unimportant vote (to your nation)?
Abstain. Makes total sense
True dat. It's not just that these places trade with China, China owns them. When I Cape to Cairoed 2006-7 every infrastructure project all the way up was Chinese. When I was in Cape Verde in February two locals on different islands spontaneously raised the subject of, and bitterly resented, the Great Chinese Buy Up Of Everything there.
Likewise Sri Lanka. Outright loathing of the Chinese - and of the Sri Lankan elite which is perceived to have sold the country to Beijing
And now the poor Sri Lankans are almost starving
There are multiple scenarios where this all ends quite badly for China. They are feared, they are not liked
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
I think you may mean satellite or some other phrase.
London did not colonise all of these other places.
Yeh I mean it in an economic sense.
And as such you surely have to see that it's others gravitating towards London that has been the theme.
You are applying the wrong sense of colony.
Immigrants always gravitate to the metropole.
Is there a particular economist you're deriving this use of the term from?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
Not by me it isn't.
I just wish France didn't keep ending up with a choice of two deeply flawed characters.
It seems in France, shit perennially floats to the political top.
Lol. Have you been abroad for the past few years?
But seriously, who was the last French politician it was possible to admire from afar?
The French system is shit. The fifth republic has issued up a series of chancers, crooks and megalomaniacs.
It’s a good question you ask; Pompidou? He died half way through but he “left” the best modern art museum in the world.
I think that is fair; a French President most remembered for having the pipework on the outside!
We may have some shite politicians here but at least none has been reduced to house arrest with an ankle bracelet.
Yet.
Good few that should have been , we are just not as assidious at chasing down our wrong uns. They get enobled here for that type of thing.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Hello Omnium, given we send all our money to our Lords and Masters in London and get a pittance sent back whilst they make merry splashing cash on all sorts of southern stuff and parties , booze , non dom status , tax havens , etc. Treat us like peasants etc etc , need I say more. A pleasant evening to you too.
Tricky to make that case. Depends of course only on whether Scottish oil is Scottish. (I guess I'll surprise you by saying it is)
I'm pleased that we're back on good (if disagreeing) terms.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
The Russian social media operation have done a superb job of weaponising discontent over Iraq and Afghanistan all over the world.
Russia? Most of them are Chinese client states.
That certainly explains the Caribbean nonsense (save Cuba).
Yes, but the Russians have reactivated a Cold War Third World sense of solidarity by activating thousands of trolls and bots to spread questions along the lines "and why didn't it matter in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq" throughout the social media space.
Because of the double-standard sense of great power machinations in their regions being largely ignored and unknown in the West throughout the Cold War, many places such as latin america and the carribean ( and Africa ) are the understandably receptive to this kind of direct message, and fairly straightforward redirecting propaganda.
I really doubt this.
It’s just China. The mighty and growing power of the world’s biggest trading nation: more important to all these nations than AUKUS/EU
China is clearly on Russia’s side, for now. Why piss off your most important trading counterpart - and growing source of so much investment - in a relatively unimportant vote (to your nation)?
Abstain. Makes total sense
True dat. It's not just that these places trade with China, China owns them. When I Cape to Cairoed 2006-7 every infrastructure project all the way up was Chinese. When I was in Cape Verde in February two locals on different islands spontaneously raised the subject of, and bitterly resented, the Great Chinese Buy Up Of Everything there.
Likewise Sri Lanka. Outright loathing of the Chinese - and of the Sri Lankan elite which is perceived to have sold the country to Beijing
And now the poor Sri Lankans are almost starving
There are multiple scenarios where this all ends quite badly for China. They are feared, they are not liked
When we had an empire nobody liked us much, and that didn't really slow us down for several centuries.
Senior Western government official says Russian troop withdrawal from Kyiv region was “no real withdrawal, but rather a large scale redeployment to the east”. Forces are getting re-supplied in Russia right now. “We expect a massive offensive soon. It has not yet started”, he says
He also says, “Kyiv is not out of danger”. A new push could come from the East in the context of all-out Russian war against Ukraine. “We don’t know what Putin will do”, he says. “But from what we see, we better expect the worst.”
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Hello Omnium, given we send all our money to our Lords and Masters in London and get a pittance sent back whilst they make merry splashing cash on all sorts of southern stuff and parties , booze , non dom status , tax havens , etc. Treat us like peasants etc etc , need I say more. A pleasant evening to you too.
Tricky to make that case. Depends of course only on whether Scottish oil is Scottish. (I guess I'll surprise you by saying it is)
I'm pleased that we're back on good (if disagreeing) terms.
Likewise, as they say fools seldom differ so we are on the right track.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
My comments were about Patel rather than Le Pen.
At a very great distance though Marine doesn't seem so bad.
I recommend zooming in a bit, with one of those coin-per-view telescopes you get at the top of the Eiffel Tower, or Montmartre.
With your coin spent, what do you report?
A diagnosis of Putinism and racial instability, and an urgent call to the Mairie for a doctor.
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
The Russian social media operation have done a superb job of weaponising discontent over Iraq and Afghanistan all over the world.
Russia? Most of them are Chinese client states.
That certainly explains the Caribbean nonsense (save Cuba).
Yes, but the Russians have reactivated a Cold War Third World sense of solidarity by activating thousands of trolls and bots to spread questions along the lines "and why didn't it matter in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq" throughout the social media space.
Because of the double-standard sense of great power machinations in their regions being largely ignored and unknown in the West throughout the Cold War, many places such as latin america and the carribean ( and Africa ) are the understandably receptive to this kind of direct message, and fairly straightforward redirecting propaganda.
I really doubt this.
It’s just China. The mighty and growing power of the world’s biggest trading nation: more important to all these nations than AUKUS/EU
China is clearly on Russia’s side, for now. Why piss off your most important trading counterpart - and growing source of so much investment - in a relatively unimportant vote (to your nation)?
Abstain. Makes total sense
True dat. It's not just that these places trade with China, China owns them. When I Cape to Cairoed 2006-7 every infrastructure project all the way up was Chinese. When I was in Cape Verde in February two locals on different islands spontaneously raised the subject of, and bitterly resented, the Great Chinese Buy Up Of Everything there.
Likewise Sri Lanka. Outright loathing of the Chinese - and of the Sri Lankan elite which is perceived to have sold the country to Beijing
And now the poor Sri Lankans are almost starving
There are multiple scenarios where this all ends quite badly for China. They are feared, they are not liked
When we had an empire nobody liked us much, and that didn't really slow us down for several centuries.
That’s true. On the other hand we were the only global superpower, and we were also proper imperialists. We were happy to shoot the shit out of you if you got out of line
*nostalgic sigh*
China is not that, at all. And yet China is still breeding intense resentment already. Moreover in several of these countries there is a history of violent anti-Chinese sentiment. Indonesia experienced an anti Chinese pogrom in 1998
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
The Russian social media operation have done a superb job of weaponising discontent over Iraq and Afghanistan all over the world.
Russia? Most of them are Chinese client states.
That certainly explains the Caribbean nonsense (save Cuba).
Yes, but the Russians have reactivated a Cold War Third World sense of solidarity by activating thousands of trolls and bots to spread questions along the lines "and why didn't it matter in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq" throughout the social media space.
Because of the double-standard sense of great power machinations in their regions being largely ignored and unknown in the West throughout the Cold War, many places such as latin america and the carribean ( and Africa ) are the understandably receptive to this kind of direct message, and fairly straightforward redirecting propaganda.
I really doubt this.
It’s just China. The mighty and growing power of the world’s biggest trading nation: more important to all these nations than AUKUS/EU
China is clearly on Russia’s side, for now. Why piss off your most important trading counterpart - and growing source of so much investment - in a relatively unimportant vote (to your nation)?
Abstain. Makes total sense
That's the UN. Look at the online response throughout the world.
I just don’t believe the internet is that powerful in all these countries
Besides, most of them aren’t democracies so they won’t care what their people think
It’s realpolitik. Don’t annoy China. The next hegemon
True but let's have a bit of perspective. Many of them abstained but they didn't dare to vote in Russia's favour. In that sense they could be seen as non-aligned. So on one side you have the most technologically advanced and wealthiest countries. And on the other you have China and various less successful nations. India and quite a few others are in the middle.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
I think you may mean satellite or some other phrase.
London did not colonise all of these other places.
Yeh I mean it in an economic sense.
And as such you surely have to see that it's others gravitating towards London that has been the theme.
You are applying the wrong sense of colony.
Immigrants always gravitate to the metropole.
I didn't suggest anywhere was a colony. Pretty hard therefore to be wrong in the sense of its use as a word.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Er, because no one has expressed that sentiment? You can only go by what people say
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
Whatever
It would be quite extraordinary to have many posters who are quite keen on authoritarian nationalism and protectionism, but none of them favour an authoritarian nationalist protectionist.
I can think of exactly one poster who might describe himself as keen on authoritarianism/nationalism/protectionism - and even he might express some reservations about Le Pen. Many of us think Macron's a dick. Possibly even relish his discomfort a little. That absolutely doesn't equate to wanting Le Pen to win.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
Not by me it isn't.
I just wish France didn't keep ending up with a choice of two deeply flawed characters.
It seems in France, shit perennially floats to the political top.
Lol. Have you been abroad for the past few years?
But seriously, who was the last French politician it was possible to admire from afar?
The French system is shit. The fifth republic has issued up a series of chancers, crooks and megalomaniacs.
It’s a good question you ask; Pompidou? He died half way through but he “left” the best modern art museum in the world.
I think that is fair; a French President most remembered for having the pipework on the outside!
We may have some shite politicians here but at least none has been reduced to house arrest with an ankle bracelet.
I can announce the results of my very scientific study of covid amongst my friendship group (ok not really very scientific).
I surveyed 19 of my circle of friends who have had covid since December as everyone had three jabs by then.
9 men (aged between 40 and 55) all had AZ/AZ/Pf and all had grim symptoms of various kinds.
9 women (aged between 36 and 53) all had P/P/P and none had symptoms more than a light cold.
1 woman aged 38 had A/A/P and has evil symptoms.
None have any particular underlying conditions of note.
Now it could be fluke or coincidence or a different effect by sex (and the one woman with A/A/P was just a strange situation) but I thought it was interesting anyway.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
Je ne suis pas fan de Marine mais..
"To get there, her campaign has homed in on one central pledge: to put more money in French pockets amid fears of inflation and rising living costs linked to the war in Ukraine." it says here. Substitute English for French and I can relate to that as a rosbif.
Also, who doesn't hate waiting on railway station platforms?
The first episode of Slow Horses was really v impressive.
Makes the Ipcress File look like the utter (but mildly diverting) tosh that it is.
But can you break your breakfast egg with one hand?
Who is that berk they cast as the Ipcress lead? I posted on here a week or so ago that he has the charisma of a third-rate Herman von Rompuy impersonator.
A chap called Joe Cole, not to be confused with the soccer star with the same name.
The series is beautifully shot but, by god it’s dull. My wife has not stayed awake through a single episode.
Looks like he is doing a Michael Caine impersonation rather than making the role his own.
Not a lot of people know that.
(Apologies. Couldn’t resist.)
"You were only supposed to blow the bloody BMP-3's doors off!"
54 countries abstained and 24 voted to keep Russia on the human rights council . The 78 are scum and should be ashamed .
Let's name them:
Algeria*, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus*, Belize, Bhutan, Bolivia*, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burundi*, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Rep*, China*, Congo*, Cuba*, North Korea*, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea*, Eswatini, Ethiopia*, Gabon*, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran*, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan*, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Laos*, Lesotho, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali*, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua*, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia*, Saint Kitts, Saint Vincent, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria*, Tajikistan*, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad, Tunisia, Uganda, UAE, Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Vanuatu, Vietnam*, Yemen, Zimbabwe*.
Belize? Best get the Governor General on the phone!
Some not awful places on the abstentions. But some reports are that a lot of the world are leaning Russia in this whole conflict, the outrage is not a global majority.
Yes. Why are the likes of Barbados and St Kitts abstaining on this?
Barbados is an independent republic now remember, as others have mentioned, Beijing is now more important to them than us.
There is clear a divide between Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Israel, South Korea and Chile and Argentina which are clearly pro Ukraine and the rest of the world which is either indifferent or in some cases, like Cuba and North Korea, Iran, Syria, China and Belarus, pro Russia
Senior Western government official says Russian troop withdrawal from Kyiv region was “no real withdrawal, but rather a large scale redeployment to the east”. Forces are getting re-supplied in Russia right now. “We expect a massive offensive soon. It has not yet started”, he says
He also says, “Kyiv is not out of danger”. A new push could come from the East in the context of all-out Russian war against Ukraine. “We don’t know what Putin will do”, he says. “But from what we see, we better expect the worst.”
That is making a huge assumption that the Russians can reconstitute their severely mauled troops withdrawn from around Kyiv, Chernihiv and Sumy into some semblance not only of a fighting force, but one that can perform significantly better than their elite units have to date.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
I think you may mean satellite or some other phrase.
London did not colonise all of these other places.
Yeh I mean it in an economic sense.
And as such you surely have to see that it's others gravitating towards London that has been the theme.
You are applying the wrong sense of colony.
Immigrants always gravitate to the metropole.
I didn't suggest anywhere was a colony. Pretty hard therefore to be wrong in the sense of its use as a word.
It was implied in your erroneous argument about people moving to London.
I can announce the results of my very scientific study of covid amongst my friendship group (ok not really very scientific).
I surveyed 19 of my circle of friends who have had covid since December as everyone had three jabs by then.
9 men (aged between 40 and 55) all had AZ/AZ/Pf and all had grim symptoms of various kinds.
9 women (aged between 36 and 53) all had P/P/P and none had symptoms more than a light cold.
1 woman aged 38 had A/A/P and has evil symptoms.
None have any particular underlying conditions of note.
Now it could be fluke or coincidence or a different effect by sex (and the one woman with A/A/P was just a strange situation) but I thought it was interesting anyway.
This sounds a bit like that coin tossing game at the beginning of R & G Are Dead. If vaccines are not gender-segregated how on earth does it happen that you know 9 blokes who all got one set of stuff and 9 women who got another?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Er, because no one has expressed that sentiment? You can only go by what people say
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
Whatever
It would be quite extraordinary to have many posters who are quite keen on authoritarian nationalism and protectionism, but none of them favour an authoritarian nationalist protectionist.
I can think of exactly one poster who might describe himself as keen on authoritarianism/nationalism/protectionism - and even he might express some reservations about Le Pen. Many of us think Macron's a dick. Possibly even relish his discomfort a little. That absolutely doesn't equate to wanting Le Pen to win.
Here’s an interesting thought experiment. Take away Macron, who would you vote for, of the leading candidates
For me, it probably would be Le Pen
Melenchon is Corbyn: no way Pecresse seems totally feeble Zemmour is almost a Nazi, and mad Hidalgo is a woke joke and terrible mayor of Paris
Who is going to stand up for France, is also sane, and a patriot, and would make an interesting change?
Hold your nose: Le Pen? And pray she really has detoxed
So @noneoftheabove makes a valid point, in a sense. There are circs where she gets support
Edit to add: this is a mind game where Putin has NOT invaded Ukraine
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Er, because no one has expressed that sentiment? You can only go by what people say
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
Whatever
It would be quite extraordinary to have many posters who are quite keen on authoritarian nationalism and protectionism, but none of them favour an authoritarian nationalist protectionist.
I can think of exactly one poster who might describe himself as keen on authoritarianism/nationalism/protectionism - and even he might express some reservations about Le Pen. Many of us think Macron's a dick. Possibly even relish his discomfort a little. That absolutely doesn't equate to wanting Le Pen to win.
There are plenty who want tougher sentences for anything and everything, unless the crimes are committed by the government of course, who get a pass because of mean judges. These are your authoritarians.
We have lots of both English and Scottish nationalists, not sure why saying this is seen as controversial?
And Brexit was a weird mix of protectionist and free traders, but the protectionist wing is amply represented. This week there was discussion on a law to force UK oil companies to sell the oil below market price to the UK to reduce the impact of the energy crisis. Those are your protectionists.
These are all mainstream opinions help by large parts of the population.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Er, because no one has expressed that sentiment? You can only go by what people say
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
Whatever
It would be quite extraordinary to have many posters who are quite keen on authoritarian nationalism and protectionism, but none of them favour an authoritarian nationalist protectionist.
I can think of exactly one poster who might describe himself as keen on authoritarianism/nationalism/protectionism - and even he might express some reservations about Le Pen. Many of us think Macron's a dick. Possibly even relish his discomfort a little. That absolutely doesn't equate to wanting Le Pen to win.
Here’s an interesting thought experiment. Take away Macron, who would you vote for, of the leading candidates
For me, it probably would be Le Pen
Melenchon is Corbyn: no way Pecresse seems totally feeble Zemmour is almost a Nazi, and mad Hidalgo is a woke joke and terrible mayor of Paris
Who is going to stand up for France, is also sane, and a patriot, and would make an interesting change?
Hold your nose: Le Pen? And pray she really has detoxed
So @noneoftheabove makes a valid point, in a sense. There are circs where she gets support
Edit to add: this is a mind game where Putin has NOT invaded Ukraine
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
I think you may mean satellite or some other phrase.
London did not colonise all of these other places.
Yeh I mean it in an economic sense.
And as such you surely have to see that it's others gravitating towards London that has been the theme.
You are applying the wrong sense of colony.
Immigrants always gravitate to the metropole.
I didn't suggest anywhere was a colony. Pretty hard therefore to be wrong in the sense of its use as a word.
It was implied in your erroneous argument about people moving to London.
Well clearly it would have been a daft thing to say. That I guess is mainly why I didn't say it. No colonialism has ever happened in the UK.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
Je ne suis pas fan de Marine mais..
"To get there, her campaign has homed in on one central pledge: to put more money in French pockets amid fears of inflation and rising living costs linked to the war in Ukraine." it says here. Substitute English for French and I can relate to that as a rosbif.
Also, who doesn't hate waiting on railway station platforms?
I can announce the results of my very scientific study of covid amongst my friendship group (ok not really very scientific).
I surveyed 19 of my circle of friends who have had covid since December as everyone had three jabs by then.
9 men (aged between 40 and 55) all had AZ/AZ/Pf and all had grim symptoms of various kinds.
9 women (aged between 36 and 53) all had P/P/P and none had symptoms more than a light cold.
1 woman aged 38 had A/A/P and has evil symptoms.
None have any particular underlying conditions of note.
Now it could be fluke or coincidence or a different effect by sex (and the one woman with A/A/P was just a strange situation) but I thought it was interesting anyway.
This sounds a bit like that coin tossing game at the beginning of R & G Are Dead. If vaccines are not gender-segregated how on earth does it happen that you know 9 blokes who all got one set of stuff and 9 women who got another?
Because they were gender segregated here for some reason. The one woman who had A/A/P had hers before the panic about Az as she’s a doctor and after that they were giving Pf to the ladies.
What is not clear to me -- and, I suspect, to many others -- is how large the gap is between what Le Pen is saying now, and what she believes.
That question is routine for politicians. For example, during the Obama administration, I thought I could predict what he would do, by assuming he would govern as far to the left -- as he could get away with. So, for example, he claimed he was opposed to gay marriage for religious reasons while that was the predominant view in the electorate. (He actually followed Biden's lead on the subject.)
Were she elected, would she do something similar, getting as close to actual fascism as she could get away with? Would she, for example, weaken NATO, but not withdraw from it?
Would she have working majorities in the National Assembly and the Senate?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
Don’t worry. I found it. By using “useless” Twitter. Where no one goes
“#Brexit predictive model prediction the day before: In favor of leave by about 0.6%point. emilkirkegaard.dk/understanding_…”
I got it working. It's really quite unimpressive. It's pretty much what I said. A Shiny app with a graph and a data table, and a load of data points. It shows the line juuust peaking over into Leave territory but it's no more than a smoothed graph of the polls. I would upload a screenshot but I think there's some "trick" to doing that which I don't know, if someone can advise?
If you post via Vanilla there are editing buttons, which include an option for attaching images.
I’m also right about Johnson, Patel, Truss, Javid, Barclay, Eustice, Shapps and Lewis. Not to mention Rees-Mogg.
I was wrong about Raab and Kwarteng, they are both awful.
Jury’s out on Zahawi and Coffey.
I was the first person to tip Wallace, by the way. He and Gove are the only people keeping the fucking circus running.
When the clown can’t even run the circus, we know we are in trouble…
"When a clown moves into a palace, he does not become a king. The palace becomes a circus." -Turkish proverb
When the doughnut has been eaten, where is the hole in the middle? -Wittgenstein
American capitalism solved that riddle years ago...they are in the other bag you walked out the shop with after they up sold you the holes as doughnut bites :-)
I can announce the results of my very scientific study of covid amongst my friendship group (ok not really very scientific).
I surveyed 19 of my circle of friends who have had covid since December as everyone had three jabs by then.
9 men (aged between 40 and 55) all had AZ/AZ/Pf and all had grim symptoms of various kinds.
9 women (aged between 36 and 53) all had P/P/P and none had symptoms more than a light cold.
1 woman aged 38 had A/A/P and has evil symptoms.
None have any particular underlying conditions of note.
Now it could be fluke or coincidence or a different effect by sex (and the one woman with A/A/P was just a strange situation) but I thought it was interesting anyway.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Er, because no one has expressed that sentiment? You can only go by what people say
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
Whatever
It would be quite extraordinary to have many posters who are quite keen on authoritarian nationalism and protectionism, but none of them favour an authoritarian nationalist protectionist.
I can think of exactly one poster who might describe himself as keen on authoritarianism/nationalism/protectionism - and even he might express some reservations about Le Pen. Many of us think Macron's a dick. Possibly even relish his discomfort a little. That absolutely doesn't equate to wanting Le Pen to win.
Here’s an interesting thought experiment. Take away Macron, who would you vote for, of the leading candidates
For me, it probably would be Le Pen
Melenchon is Corbyn: no way Pecresse seems totally feeble Zemmour is almost a Nazi, and mad Hidalgo is a woke joke and terrible mayor of Paris
Who is going to stand up for France, is also sane, and a patriot, and would make an interesting change?
Hold your nose: Le Pen? And pray she really has detoxed
So @noneoftheabove makes a valid point, in a sense. There are circs where she gets support
Edit to add: this is a mind game where Putin has NOT invaded Ukraine
Personally I would vote for Pecresse and if she failed to make the runoff, as is likely, Macron over Le Pen or Melenchon.
Though yes Le Pen is benefiting from much the same nationalist backlash against globalisation that produced Brexit, Trump and Orban. While Melenchon is getting the same populist left backing against inequality Corbyn got
If Le Pen does pull off a shock win, it would probably also partially be a third triumph for Russian online activity, propaganda and manipulation of Western divisions, after Brexit and Trump.
Senior Western government official says Russian troop withdrawal from Kyiv region was “no real withdrawal, but rather a large scale redeployment to the east”. Forces are getting re-supplied in Russia right now. “We expect a massive offensive soon. It has not yet started”, he says
He also says, “Kyiv is not out of danger”. A new push could come from the East in the context of all-out Russian war against Ukraine. “We don’t know what Putin will do”, he says. “But from what we see, we better expect the worst.”
That is making a huge assumption that the Russians can reconstitute their severely mauled troops withdrawn from around Kyiv, Chernihiv and Sumy into some semblance not only of a fighting force, but one that can perform significantly better than their elite units have to date.
That's true. Röpcke has generally had good sources though so I assume it's reliable information.
Incidentally, one interesting thing that's become clear from following the debate in Germany is that hawkishness on Russia was considered a 'low status' opinion, associated with people who read the Bild Zeitung. That helps explain why so many people were able to rationalise away the obvious issues with their Ostpolitik.
Gabriel Milland @gabrielmilland Actual quote from a focus group last night. "I'd rather have a massive wind turbine in my back garden than nothing in my bank account."
SNIP
Even better is to have a massive wind turbine in someone else's back garden.
And so, the uplands of mid-Wales are sprouting wind-farms (with no benefit for the locals).
Most are run by a company called Bute Empire, I mean Bute Energy, based in Edinburgh and London,
And people still disputes that Wales is a colony run for the benefit of others ...
Are there no local taxes on these things, like for other businesses?
No it is a Tory pocket filler scheme, they even charge us double to connect it the grid and sell it cheaper down south and in France. We are also a colony.
"We are also a colony."
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
Every nation and region of Britain is essentially a colony of London and the Home Counties.
I think you may mean satellite or some other phrase.
London did not colonise all of these other places.
Yeh I mean it in an economic sense.
And as such you surely have to see that it's others gravitating towards London that has been the theme.
You are applying the wrong sense of colony.
Immigrants always gravitate to the metropole.
I didn't suggest anywhere was a colony. Pretty hard therefore to be wrong in the sense of its use as a word.
It was implied in your erroneous argument about people moving to London.
Well clearly it would have been a daft thing to say. That I guess is mainly why I didn't say it. No colonialism has ever happened in the UK.
You seem unfamiliar with the various meanings of colony and there is no point pursuing this argument further.
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
If he got this bang on, then his prediction of a Le Pen victory carries a lot more weight
I'm no expert but I've used it.
OK cool. So what did he predict?!
GitHub just stores the code. We'd have to pull it down, feed it his data source and run it to see his graphs (it runs a loess regression and outputs a bunch of histograms, at a quick glance)
(Ah - it scrapes the FT's brexit polling so it should be runnable by anyone with R skills)
Yup, FT data, loess fit, put into a shiny app with a graph. No rocket science here.
Yes yes, but what did he predict?!
If he aced it, then his French predix carry more weight
Alright, it's been a while since I've used R and I don't have it installed on this machine, so I'll see if I can spin up a machine in Google Cloud and run it. Only because it's you.
If the code is buggy, I'll stop. I'm not going to debug someone else's 6 year old code. Give me a few minutes.
You’re a star. Also that all sounds highly impressive
Oh god I wish I hadn't started this. He's got a hot mess of dependencies in there. One of them is called "kirkegaard", which seems to be his own dump of random code bits. And there's a reference to another packages called "psychometric" which I don't even know what that is. It's not on CRAN and it's not in his personal Github, so fuck knows what that's about. That code is officially NOT in a working order.
So basically, bullshit. But @Leon’s hope is palpable.
The PB Tory’s onanistic fantasy of a Le Pen win seems to come around more and more frequently. Perhaps I am just getting old.
Does @HYUFD still maintain Le Pen actually won the last election, pending final returns from Kerguelen?
Does anyone actually want her to win? Other than hope of a more excisting contest, pretty sure most people on both sides think Macron is far and away the best choice the French have.
A Le Pen win is one of those secret desires held by the PB Tory / Brexit tribe.
See Telegraph/Spectator articles and various PB Tory comments passim.
It’s a bit like the Japanese fetish for vending machines that sell schoolgirls’ knickers. Inexplicable to outsiders.
Is it inexplicable? How different is Le Pen's platform from that of someone like Priti Patel?
A bit more overt and extreme, I think ( Priti Patel is certainly a threat to democracy, though). "National preference" for housing and services, in Putin's pocket for foreign policy.
If Patel had her own party, I could see such a policy. Even Brown had British jobs for British workers.
Its daft how much insulting daftness heads her way.
I will happily defend her.
I dont like her brand of politics, even if it is not her fathers anymore, but think it would be better if those who approve of her winning, would just say so and that they quite like most of what she stands for, rather than give it the standard "it would be funny and great if she won, but I really don't want her to" line.
I don’t believe there is anyone on here who actively wants her to win. There are a lot of people who enjoy political drama - most of us? - and what was a tedious one horse race is now much more exciting. That’s fun
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
How can there possibly not be anyone here who wants her to win? There are hundreds of regular posters, maybe thousands including casuals, from a wide spectrum of views and experiences and she is getting high polling numbers. Are we really to believe none of the UKIPers or Brexiteer wing of the Tories agree with her more than they disagree?
Er, because no one has expressed that sentiment? You can only go by what people say
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
Whatever
It would be quite extraordinary to have many posters who are quite keen on authoritarian nationalism and protectionism, but none of them favour an authoritarian nationalist protectionist.
I can think of exactly one poster who might describe himself as keen on authoritarianism/nationalism/protectionism - and even he might express some reservations about Le Pen. Many of us think Macron's a dick. Possibly even relish his discomfort a little. That absolutely doesn't equate to wanting Le Pen to win.
Here’s an interesting thought experiment. Take away Macron, who would you vote for, of the leading candidates
For me, it probably would be Le Pen
Melenchon is Corbyn: no way Pecresse seems totally feeble Zemmour is almost a Nazi, and mad Hidalgo is a woke joke and terrible mayor of Paris
Who is going to stand up for France, is also sane, and a patriot, and would make an interesting change?
Hold your nose: Le Pen? And pray she really has detoxed
So @noneoftheabove makes a valid point, in a sense. There are circs where she gets support
Edit to add: this is a mind game where Putin has NOT invaded Ukraine
“I don’t like Le Pen, but what if…”
Play it again, Sam.
So fucking tedious
I’m trying to get inside the minds of 50.3% French people who are apparently willing to vote for Le Pen, on the latest poll
Do you think more than half the French are Fascists?
No. Nor do I
So why are they apparently voting for her?
The loathe Macron They want real change They are praying she has detoxed They detest the Parisian elite They are worried by migration They are worried about inflation and security They are willing to thrust Ukraine from their minds They look at all the other alternatives and despair
Put it all together and it is extremely similar to Brexit
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At a very great distance though Marine doesn't seem so bad.
Le Pen started on the other side of the line and as far as I concerned her moderation (such as it is) comes way too late in the day. A leopard doesn’t change its spots *that* much.
Likewise I wouldn’t start supporting Nick Griffin if he suddenly started saying that the Lib Dems have a point about Brexit.
In this (UK) country, we’ve largely avoided mainstream politicians crossing the line. Farage is currently sitting on it, or has perhaps crossed over, I’m afraid I don’t follow him on TikTok so I’m not sure.
Also seeing Macron frightened is a pleasure. He is a twat. And an anglophobe
As for myself, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Despite the twatness, I’d vote for Macron. He’s done OK. he’s the best of a fairly feeble bunch.
I don’t think Le Pen would a fascist catastrophe. She’s not Mussolini. But her victory would encourage Putin, and that alone is reason enough to want her to lose
Besides, most of them aren’t democracies so they won’t care what their people think
It’s realpolitik. Don’t annoy China. The next hegemon
Instead there seems to be a whole "code" where people want to show support for them through phrases like it being funny/exciting, or to blame the centrists for not giving them better candidates.
Not least because he helped pay to bring it about.
Except that you seek to look into pb-ers souls where you are sure they are secretly pro Le Pen, because you just KNOW
Whatever
Go on - just for the fun of it explain quite how that works.
Otherwise, evening Malcolm.
The fifth republic has issued up a series of chancers, crooks and megalomaniacs.
It’s a good question you ask; Pompidou? He died half way through but he “left” the best modern art museum in the world.
“Christ, the Russians have got a really good meme game going. Everyone is watching this in the dog meat bars of Pyongyang. And these Putin gifs are superb. We have to go with Russia”
So that's one.
London did not colonise all of these other places.
Just, when a poster has a history of boosting Putin and Le Pen, and often returns to the subjects of Gabriele d’Annunzio, you get a strong feeling.
A pleasant evening to you too.
We may have some shite politicians here but at least none has been reduced to house arrest with an ankle bracelet.
Yet.
Immigrants always gravitate to the metropole.
And now the poor Sri Lankans are almost starving
There are multiple scenarios where this all ends quite badly for China. They are feared, they are not liked
Francis Fuk yo ma.
I'm pleased that we're back on good (if disagreeing) terms.
The British government's failure to play its party in helping with this aspect of the crisis becomes ever more shameful.
Senior Western government official says Russian troop withdrawal from Kyiv region was “no real withdrawal, but rather a large scale redeployment to the east”.
Forces are getting re-supplied in Russia right now. “We expect a massive offensive soon. It has not yet started”, he says
He also says, “Kyiv is not out of danger”. A new push could come from the East in the context of all-out Russian war against Ukraine.
“We don’t know what Putin will do”, he says. “But from what we see, we better expect the worst.”
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1512112896750325768
https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/le-pen-calls-protesters-scum-after-paris-cop-charged-with-rape
*nostalgic sigh*
China is not that, at all. And yet China is still breeding intense resentment already. Moreover in several of these countries there is a history of violent anti-Chinese sentiment. Indonesia experienced an anti Chinese pogrom in 1998
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1998_riots_of_Indonesia
Many of us think Macron's a dick. Possibly even relish his discomfort a little. That absolutely doesn't equate to wanting Le Pen to win.
I surveyed 19 of my circle of friends who have had covid since December as everyone had three jabs by then.
9 men (aged between 40 and 55) all had AZ/AZ/Pf and all had grim symptoms of various kinds.
9 women (aged between 36 and 53) all had P/P/P and none had symptoms more than a light cold.
1 woman aged 38 had A/A/P and has evil symptoms.
None have any particular underlying conditions of note.
Now it could be fluke or coincidence or a different effect by sex (and the one woman with A/A/P was just a strange situation) but I thought it was interesting anyway.
Also, who doesn't hate waiting on railway station platforms?
There is clear a divide between Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Israel, South Korea and Chile and Argentina which are clearly pro Ukraine and the rest of the world which is either indifferent or in some cases, like Cuba and North Korea, Iran, Syria, China and Belarus, pro Russia
I’m also right about Johnson, Patel, Truss, Javid, Barclay, Eustice, Shapps and Lewis. Not to mention Rees-Mogg.
I was wrong about Raab and Kwarteng, they are both awful.
Jury’s out on Zahawi and Coffey.
I was the first person to tip Wallace, by the way. He and Gove are the only people keeping the fucking circus running.
-Turkish proverb
For me, it probably would be Le Pen
Melenchon is Corbyn: no way
Pecresse seems totally feeble
Zemmour is almost a Nazi, and mad
Hidalgo is a woke joke and terrible mayor of Paris
Who is going to stand up for France, is also sane, and a patriot, and would make an interesting change?
Hold your nose: Le Pen? And pray she really has detoxed
So @noneoftheabove makes a valid point, in a sense. There are circs where she gets support
Edit to add: this is a mind game where Putin has NOT invaded Ukraine
We have lots of both English and Scottish nationalists, not sure why saying this is seen as controversial?
And Brexit was a weird mix of protectionist and free traders, but the protectionist wing is amply represented. This week there was discussion on a law to force UK oil companies to sell the oil below market price to the UK to reduce the impact of the energy crisis. Those are your protectionists.
These are all mainstream opinions help by large parts of the population.
Grim.
Play it again, Sam.
-Wittgenstein
That question is routine for politicians. For example, during the Obama administration, I thought I could predict what he would do, by assuming he would govern as far to the left -- as he could get away with. So, for example, he claimed he was opposed to gay marriage for religious reasons while that was the predominant view in the electorate. (He actually followed Biden's lead on the subject.)
Were she elected, would she do something similar, getting as close to actual fascism as she could get away with? Would she, for example, weaken NATO, but not withdraw from it?
Would she have working majorities in the National Assembly and the Senate?
https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/
Though yes Le Pen is benefiting from much the same nationalist backlash against globalisation that produced Brexit, Trump and Orban. While Melenchon is getting the same populist left backing against inequality Corbyn got
Incidentally, one interesting thing that's become clear from following the debate in Germany is that hawkishness on Russia was considered a 'low status' opinion, associated with people who read the Bild Zeitung. That helps explain why so many people were able to rationalise away the obvious issues with their Ostpolitik.
I’m trying to get inside the minds of 50.3% French people who are apparently willing to vote for Le Pen, on the latest poll
Do you think more than half the French are Fascists?
No. Nor do I
So why are they apparently voting for her?
The loathe Macron
They want real change
They are praying she has detoxed
They detest the Parisian elite
They are worried by migration
They are worried about inflation and security
They are willing to thrust Ukraine from their minds
They look at all the other alternatives and despair
Put it all together and it is extremely similar to Brexit