Guardian reporting Jennifer Arcuri could yet do for Johnson.
Or is that just wishful thinking?
The Guardian fishing for more fish from the barrel isn't news.
Re header: A good thing about Boris is that he is behind his ministers. In my view he's generally right in that. Dorries isn't doing anything so awful, and nor is JRM - in both cases they're an uncomfortable fit, but I'm fairly sure that they're also doing decent jobs. Priti Patel is the most obvious example - despite the overwhelmingly negative press she seems to be doing not so badly.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
There isn't, actually.
YAWN
What exact point are you trying to make about the Scottish Nationalist Party?
That there is no such party.
And that your posting was very specifically a complaint about the incompetence of the Labour and Conservative Paries and the media for being inadequate on the Nationalist problem, whatever that is. You were wanting them banned and no platformed.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
It's Lab that would want PR, apparently.
All that SNP Types care about is splitting us of from the sassenachs.
SNP have been advocates of PR at Westminster for a very long time.
So?
That's a minor policy matter compared to the fact their raison d'etre is to split this Island across the middle.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Not sure about this one. Why would Unions care which voting system they're fighting under?
As the only way they can get a socialist majority government as they did in 1945 or 1964 or to an extent from 2007 to 2010 and came close to in 2017 is under FPTP.
Under PR they know the centre left would only ever get in power again with the LDs in a Roy Jenkins centrist social democrat type government
The LDs are "Centre to Centre-left" according to Wiki. Therefore, leaning left.
Brexit alone would mean no LD-Tory coalition for the foreseeable.
"According to Wiki"
Wikipedia isn't automatically correct about everything. (Talking generally, not about this subject).
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
It's Lab that would want PR, apparently.
All that SNP Types care about is splitting us of from the sassenachs.
SNP have been advocates of PR at Westminster for a very long time.
So?
That's a minor policy matter compared to the fact their raison d'etre is to split this Island across the middle.
It's what you were whining about: PR.
On the other matter, if a majority of Scots want independence, that's it.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
The BNP still exists too.
Er, neither the BNP nor the SNP have nationalist in their names.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
The BNP still exists too.
Er, neither the BNP nor the SNP have nationalist in their names.
Britain, 2022: whilst knobhead frantically clings to power and the useless braying fucks that sit behind him every Wednesday allow him to get away with it, it has finally come to this: buy now, pay later credit for buying food:
Families hit by the cost-of-living crisis are being targeted by credit firms offering “buy now, pay later” deals on weekly groceries, pet food and hot drinks.
Shoppers are urged to spread their payments for staple foods and treats to help cope with “these difficult times”. One promotion states: “Regardless of your credit rating, we will offer you a tonne of credit to do your shopping with.”
...
Mehmet Sezgin, a former board member of MasterCard Europe, and a global retail banking expert, said: “No one should buy perishable items like food on credit. It’s an invitation to indebtedness and bankruptcy.”
...
One in three buy now, pay later users have missed a payment or made a late one, according to a report published last year by the welfare charity Citizens Advice. The report found consumers using the credit products had also been charged £39m in late fees over one year.
Rachel Beddow, principal policy manager at Citizens Advice, said: “It is like a runaway train. You can shop 24 hours a day and easily lose track of how much you owe, and there’s not enough protection for people who end up slipping into debt.”
One wonders what the Government will do when the inevitable avalanche of penniless single mothers being chased by financiers for defaulting on their Coco Pops starts clogging up the courts? I believe that bankrupt debtors were enslaved under the Roman Empire and sold to recover some of the losses - and Johnson is a classicist.
He'll probably appoint Rees-Mogg is Minister for Enslavement. The new Secretary of State can even set a good example by purchasing the first lot of victims and putting them to work on his estates. Everyone's a winner.
Sounds like a metamorphosis of Wonga, but potentially nastier.
I’m the last person to stand up for this kind of lending, but to be fair, Wonga was a hell of a lot worse. These are 0% loans, albeit with late payment penalties. They’re no more evil than credit cards.
I think there’s a good argument for banning them, anyway, from a paternalistic perspective - they create debt traps etc.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
The BNP still exists too.
Doesn't have "NATIONALIST in it's name".
As an aside what is the difference between a non existent Scottish Party and the Scottish National Party? Isnt the National rather redundant?
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
There isn't, actually.
YAWN
What exact point are you trying to make about the Scottish Nationalist Party?
That there is no such party.
And that your posting was very specifically a complaint about the incompetence of the Labour and Conservative Paries and the media for being inadequate on the Nationalist problem, whatever that is. You were wanting them banned and no platformed.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
Heavens, I don't think even I dislike Starmer as much as you do BJO
"Boris Johnson is facing damaging new revelations about his relationship with the US businesswoman Jennifer Arcuri after hundreds of page of notes and documents were handed to officials at the Greater London Authority (GLA) overseeing two separate investigations into their affair.
Last month the GLA oversight committee summonsed and received a significant number of documents – including emails to and from Arcuri – from a London tourism and promotional agency as part of an inquiry into whether Johnson abused his position as London mayor to “benefit and reward” the American businesswoman. [...]
Arcuri is also said to be cooperating fully with a separate investigation by the GLA’s ethics watchdog that raises the prospect of Johnson facing an investigation for a potential criminal offence of misconduct in public office."
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Not sure about this one. Why would Unions care which voting system they're fighting under?
As the only way they can get a socialist majority government as they did in 1945 or 1964 or to an extent from 2007 to 2010 and came close to in 2017 is under FPTP.
Under PR they know the centre left would only ever get in power again with the LDs in a Roy Jenkins centrist social democrat type government
The LDs are "Centre to Centre-left" according to Wiki. Therefore, leaning left.
Brexit alone would mean no LD-Tory coalition for the foreseeable.
"According to Wiki"
Wikipedia isn't automatically correct about everything. (Talking generally, not about this subject).
Wiki, for example, spends much time pushing the narrative that the Skwawkbox is a reliable source, using all sorts of dodgy logic to do so.
This has nothing to do with the fact that it's an article written by 'Reklaws' who seems to be very close to Steve Walker...
Similarly, woe betide anyone who points out Richard III usurped the throne and murdered his nephews. Isannani, who clearly is not internationally renowned nutcase Johanna Haminga, will Wade in to do violent battle.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Not sure about this one. Why would Unions care which voting system they're fighting under?
As the only way they can get a socialist majority government as they did in 1945 or 1964 or to an extent from 2007 to 2010 and came close to in 2017 is under FPTP.
Under PR they know the centre left would only ever get in power again with the LDs in a Roy Jenkins centrist social democrat type government
The LDs are "Centre to Centre-left" according to Wiki. Therefore, leaning left.
Brexit alone would mean no LD-Tory coalition for the foreseeable.
"According to Wiki"
Wikipedia isn't automatically correct about everything. (Talking generally, not about this subject).
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
Heavens, I don't think even I dislike Starmer as much as you do BJO
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
The BNP still exists too.
Doesn't have "NATIONALIST in it's name".
As an aside what is the difference between a non existent Scottish Party and the Scottish National Party? Isnt the National rather redundant?
Oh yes, Ms Sturgeon was commenting on that recently, it tends to get misunderstood - in the nacionalista rather than independista sense. I think she was saying that she'd be quite happy to rename it along those lines.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
You're right - Labour really need to nail down that under 25 cohort. As we've seen from previous elections, they do a brilliant job of both voting and persuading their parents to ex-scum.
I agree on the finances too - he should have taken every case to court, defended the Palestinian position, and ignored any damages awards.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
The BNP still exists too.
Doesn't have "NATIONALIST in it's name".
As an aside what is the difference between a non existent Scottish Party and the Scottish National Party? Isnt the National rather redundant?
Oh yes, Ms Sturgeon was commenting on that recently, it tends to get misunderstood - in the nacionalista rather than independista sense. I think she was saying that she'd be quite happy to rename it along those lines.
Well having the n word does leave you a bit open to simplistic attacks.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
The BNP still exists too.
Doesn't have "NATIONALIST in it's name".
As an aside what is the difference between a non existent Scottish Party and the Scottish National Party? Isnt the National rather redundant?
Oh yes, Ms Sturgeon was commenting on that recently, it tends to get misunderstood - in the nacionalista rather than independista sense. I think she was saying that she'd be quite happy to rename it along those lines.
Well having the n word does leave you a bit open to simplistic attacks.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Isn't The Momentum with Jeremy? Asking for a friend.
No Jeremy is living rent free in Centrists heads despite hm being a complete irrelevance ATM
You are obsessed Pete
Look, not hating Jews is certainly a character flaw. No one disputes that. But I think you are attaching too much weight to it in the overall scheme of things.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
Scottish Nationalist Party.
Is Mr Johnson leader of the Conservationist Party?
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
You're in Momentum and you're with Boris?
I have never been in Momentum. I have never voted for Boris
You are as obsessed like the rest of the Centrists with the past. and factional battles
Is it because you are completely incapable of coming up with any other reason why SKS is going backward faster than an Italian tank?
Whatever Corbyn is doing to the saner elements of Labour, one thing I will say for Starmer is he's clearly achieved a major triumph in domestic housing policy.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
Scottish Nationalist Party.
Is Mr Johnson leader of the Conservationist Party?
You could say he's the leader of the Tories and I'd know what you mean.
Rishi Sunak 'thinks Boris Johnson WON'T survive Partygate and has ALEADY built a dummy campaign website as he prepares leadership bid' and No10 braces to finally receive Gray report
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
You're right - Labour really need to nail down that under 25 cohort. As we've seen from previous elections, they do a brilliant job of both voting and persuading their parents to ex-scum.
I agree on the finances too - he should have taken every case to court, defended the Palestinian position, and ignored any damages awards.
The under 25 vote was a massive reason why Lab got 12.9m votes in 2017
SKS inherited £13.5m of current Assets he has blown the lot and the Party wont make it through 2022 financially unless some massively rich Donors turn up. Of course they wont want anything in return
I increasingly think the police want to redact partly because various security issues at the centre of government look woefully lax, and they're implicated ; and also because the report might simultaneously reveal their extremely tolerant attitude to any wrongdoing at No.10. Fused together with which somewhere is probably Cressida Dick's personal loyalty to Boris Johnson.
If you take this together with the enormous delay and apparent bafflement at the entire idea of investigating No.10 in the first place, it makes perfect sense. The underlying attitude is one of extreme indulgence, and Sue Gray's report therefore would represent just an annoying interlude before returning to the default, combined attitude ; a clearly undemocratic level of indulgence, and lax security with those are the top ; by redacting the details of both.
Slightly less cynically, maybe the police were astonished to find how lax everything is, and how complicated this would make what they'd previously hoped would be a 48-hour job involving reviewing a few email invitations.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
You're in Momentum and you're with Boris?
I have never been in Momentum. I have never voted for Boris
You are as obsessed like the rest of the Centrists with the past. and factional battles
Is it because you are completely incapable of coming up with any other reason why SKS is going backward faster than an Italian tank?
Whatever Corbyn is doing to the saner elements of Labour, one thing I will say for Starmer is he's clearly achieved a major triumph in domestic housing policy.
He's living rent free in many Corbynista heads...
LoL and who is living rent free in Centrist heads?
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
You're in Momentum and you're with Boris?
I have never been in Momentum. I have never voted for Boris
You are as obsessed like the rest of the Centrists with the past. and factional battles
Is it because you are completely incapable of coming up with any other reason why SKS is going backward faster than an Italian tank?
Bit unfair. The Italians had to fight in some pretty crap tanks.
In fact, to the degree that some of them turned the things round and went backwards facing the enemy, so that the engine at least might catch some of the OQF 2-pounder solid shot coming their way.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
You're in Momentum and you're with Boris?
I have never been in Momentum. I have never voted for Boris
You are as obsessed like the rest of the Centrists with the past. and factional battles
Is it because you are completely incapable of coming up with any other reason why SKS is going backward faster than an Italian tank?
Whatever Corbyn is doing to the saner elements of Labour, one thing I will say for Starmer is he's clearly achieved a major triumph in domestic housing policy.
He's living rent free in many Corbynista heads...
LoL and who is living rent free in Centrist heads?
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
Scottish National Party Gordon Lamb House 3 Jackson's Entry Edinburgh, Scotland EH8 8PJ https://www.snp.org/contact/
Well thanks for clearing that up Sunil.
I honestly I had no idea.
At least we can all agree their ideology is NATIONALIST.
No, we can't. Nationalists are right wingers like you, HYUFD, etc. . I'm a centrist independist. I don't go out waving the Saltire and goiung on and on and on about the glorious nation and the Royal Family.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Isn't The Momentum with Jeremy? Asking for a friend.
No Jeremy is living rent free in Centrists heads despite hm being a complete irrelevance ATM
You are obsessed Pete
Look, not hating Jews is certainly a character flaw. No one disputes that. But I think you are attaching too much weight to it in the overall scheme of things.
We used to rely on a selection of different encyclopaedias, both within the UK and from other countries, which would often have had slightly different interpretations of the same subjects. Is it really a good idea to replace all of those with just one? I'm not sure it is.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
You're right - Labour really need to nail down that under 25 cohort. As we've seen from previous elections, they do a brilliant job of both voting and persuading their parents to ex-scum.
I agree on the finances too - he should have taken every case to court, defended the Palestinian position, and ignored any damages awards.
The under 25 vote was a massive reason why Lab got 12.9m votes in 2017
SKS inherited £13.5m of current Assets he has blown the lot and the Party wont make it through 2022 financially unless some massively rich Donors turn up. Of course they wont want anything in return
And the pulsating, rotting liability of people like you, infecting what used to be a party of government.
2017? A loss. What scares you most of all is actually winning.
Why? Because you think most Brits are scum. And if they vote for you, that makes you scum too.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Isn't The Momentum with Jeremy? Asking for a friend.
No Jeremy is living rent free in Centrists heads despite hm being a complete irrelevance ATM
You are obsessed Pete
Look, not hating Jews is certainly a character flaw. No one disputes that. But I think you are attaching too much weight to it in the overall scheme of things.
Britain, 2022: whilst knobhead frantically clings to power and the useless braying fucks that sit behind him every Wednesday allow him to get away with it, it has finally come to this: buy now, pay later credit for buying food:
Families hit by the cost-of-living crisis are being targeted by credit firms offering “buy now, pay later” deals on weekly groceries, pet food and hot drinks.
Shoppers are urged to spread their payments for staple foods and treats to help cope with “these difficult times”. One promotion states: “Regardless of your credit rating, we will offer you a tonne of credit to do your shopping with.”
...
Mehmet Sezgin, a former board member of MasterCard Europe, and a global retail banking expert, said: “No one should buy perishable items like food on credit. It’s an invitation to indebtedness and bankruptcy.”
...
One in three buy now, pay later users have missed a payment or made a late one, according to a report published last year by the welfare charity Citizens Advice. The report found consumers using the credit products had also been charged £39m in late fees over one year.
Rachel Beddow, principal policy manager at Citizens Advice, said: “It is like a runaway train. You can shop 24 hours a day and easily lose track of how much you owe, and there’s not enough protection for people who end up slipping into debt.”
One wonders what the Government will do when the inevitable avalanche of penniless single mothers being chased by financiers for defaulting on their Coco Pops starts clogging up the courts? I believe that bankrupt debtors were enslaved under the Roman Empire and sold to recover some of the losses - and Johnson is a classicist.
He'll probably appoint Rees-Mogg is Minister for Enslavement. The new Secretary of State can even set a good example by purchasing the first lot of victims and putting them to work on his estates. Everyone's a winner.
Sounds like a metamorphosis of Wonga, but potentially nastier.
The article is short on detail. Presumably it is a way of selling a load of consumer goods that companies make a large profit on (coffee, food) at inflated prices.
People either make the repayments, or they don't. The question I suppose is, if they don't make the 'interest free' repayments of say a hundred quid, what happens then?
That is what I would really like to understand, before I can make any judgements about this.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
Scottish National Party Gordon Lamb House 3 Jackson's Entry Edinburgh, Scotland EH8 8PJ https://www.snp.org/contact/
Well thanks for clearing that up Sunil.
I honestly I had no idea.
At least we can all agree their ideology is NATIONALIST.
No, we can't. Nationalists are right wingers like you, HYUFD, etc. . I'm a centrist independist. I don't go out waving the Saltire and goiung on and on and on about the glorious nation and the Royal Family.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
You're right - Labour really need to nail down that under 25 cohort. As we've seen from previous elections, they do a brilliant job of both voting and persuading their parents to ex-scum.
I agree on the finances too - he should have taken every case to court, defended the Palestinian position, and ignored any damages awards.
The under 25 vote was a massive reason why Lab got 12.9m votes in 2017
SKS inherited £13.5m of current Assets he has blown the lot and the Party wont make it through 2022 financially unless some massively rich Donors turn up. Of course they wont want anything in return
And the pulsating, rotting liability of people like you, infecting what used to be a party of government.
2017? A loss. What scares you most of all is actually winning.
Why? Because you think most Brits are scum. And if they vote for you, that makes you scum too.
A rather silly comment
You think the under 25s and all those enthused by the 2017 Manifesto wanted to lose.
Labour may never again get 12.9m votes or ever again be in power precisely because they offer nothing to traditional WWC voters
Guardian reporting Jennifer Arcuri could yet do for Johnson.
Or is that just wishful thinking?
The Guardian fishing for more fish from the barrel isn't news.
Re header: A good thing about Boris is that he is behind his ministers. In my view he's generally right in that. Dorries isn't doing anything so awful, and nor is JRM - in both cases they're an uncomfortable fit, but I'm fairly sure that they're also doing decent jobs. Priti Patel is the most obvious example - despite the overwhelmingly negative press she seems to be doing not so badly.
What is it that our esteemed Home Secretary is "doing not so badly" at? Stopping migrants crossing the channel? A whole six per cent of crimes solved? Record sex offences? Or did you mean directing the Met to derail Sue Gray? ETA or have I been wooshed?
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
Scottish National Party Gordon Lamb House 3 Jackson's Entry Edinburgh, Scotland EH8 8PJ https://www.snp.org/contact/
Well thanks for clearing that up Sunil.
I honestly I had no idea.
At least we can all agree their ideology is NATIONALIST.
No, we can't. Nationalists are right wingers like you, HYUFD, etc. . I'm a centrist independist. I don't go out waving the Saltire and goiung on and on and on about the glorious nation and the Royal Family.
Ha ha ha - Enjoy your kool aid NATIONALIST.
The remarkable thing about the SNP is, though there are undoubtedly some unsavoury types on their midst, they have avoided the Corbyn/Momentum problem very well.
We have these huge marches in Edinburgh full of nutters with hundreds of saltires, 'burn the Tories' (read English), etc, but no SNP MSPs anywhere near them. Smart.
I think Slab being nakedly pro-Union is strategically flawed. They should be neutral and allow individual Labour candidates to express their own views. I think Labour would do better north of the Tweed if they weren’t seen as the natural home of Rangers supporters.
I don't mind them being strategically ambigious - But Anas (and Sir Keir) seems to drunk half of the glass of kool aid.
A milestone, you made a post without the words "Nippy " or "SNP" in it. Mind boggling.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
You're right - Labour really need to nail down that under 25 cohort. As we've seen from previous elections, they do a brilliant job of both voting and persuading their parents to ex-scum.
I agree on the finances too - he should have taken every case to court, defended the Palestinian position, and ignored any damages awards.
The under 25 vote was a massive reason why Lab got 12.9m votes in 2017
SKS inherited £13.5m of current Assets he has blown the lot and the Party wont make it through 2022 financially unless some massively rich Donors turn up. Of course they wont want anything in return
And the pulsating, rotting liability of people like you, infecting what used to be a party of government.
2017? A loss. What scares you most of all is actually winning.
Why? Because you think most Brits are scum. And if they vote for you, that makes you scum too.
A rather silly comment
You think the under 25s and all those enthused by the 2017 Manifesto wanted to lose.
Labour may never again get 12.9m votes or ever again be in power precisely because they offer nothing to traditional WWC voters
The second bit I agree with. But your ilk are not the answer.
The litmus test is something like the Falklands. If a Labour leader can't commit to defending them, then they're useless.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
Scottish National Party Gordon Lamb House 3 Jackson's Entry Edinburgh, Scotland EH8 8PJ https://www.snp.org/contact/
Well thanks for clearing that up Sunil.
I honestly I had no idea.
At least we can all agree their ideology is NATIONALIST.
No, we can't. Nationalists are right wingers like you, HYUFD, etc. . I'm a centrist independist. I don't go out waving the Saltire and goiung on and on and on about the glorious nation and the Royal Family.
Ha ha ha - Enjoy your kool aid NATIONALIST.
The remarkable thing about the SNP is, though there are undoubtedly some unsavoury types on their midst, they have avoided the Corbyn/Momentum problem very well.
We have these huge marches in Edinburgh full of nutters with hundreds of saltires, 'burn the Tories' (read English), etc, but no SNP MSPs anywhere near them. Smart.
Nationalists account for circa 45pc of the population up here and are running Holyrood.
I don't care what trips them up but I hope it will be soon.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
There isn't, actually.
Carnyx you are wasting your time, the lights are on but nobody is home.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
Scottish National Party Gordon Lamb House 3 Jackson's Entry Edinburgh, Scotland EH8 8PJ https://www.snp.org/contact/
Well thanks for clearing that up Sunil.
I honestly I had no idea.
At least we can all agree their ideology is NATIONALIST.
No, we can't. Nationalists are right wingers like you, HYUFD, etc. . I'm a centrist independist. I don't go out waving the Saltire and goiung on and on and on about the glorious nation and the Royal Family.
Ha ha ha - Enjoy your kool aid NATIONALIST.
The remarkable thing about the SNP is, though there are undoubtedly some unsavoury types on their midst, they have avoided the Corbyn/Momentum problem very well.
We have these huge marches in Edinburgh full of nutters with hundreds of saltires, 'burn the Tories' (read English), etc, but no SNP MSPs anywhere near them. Smart.
It speaks well for the Scottish education system that they can spell 'burn.' There is actually graffiti on the A38 near Gloucester where somebody got that wrong and wrote 'bun the Tories.'
That was in 2017.* If only s/he had waited five years...
*It's still there albeit rather faded now. Not sure whether nobody can be bothered to remove it or the police just like seeing it as they drive past en route to their HQ at Waterwells.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
You're right - Labour really need to nail down that under 25 cohort. As we've seen from previous elections, they do a brilliant job of both voting and persuading their parents to ex-scum.
I agree on the finances too - he should have taken every case to court, defended the Palestinian position, and ignored any damages awards.
The under 25 vote was a massive reason why Lab got 12.9m votes in 2017
SKS inherited £13.5m of current Assets he has blown the lot and the Party wont make it through 2022 financially unless some massively rich Donors turn up. Of course they wont want anything in return
And the pulsating, rotting liability of people like you, infecting what used to be a party of government.
2017? A loss. What scares you most of all is actually winning.
Why? Because you think most Brits are scum. And if they vote for you, that makes you scum too.
A rather silly comment
You think the under 25s and all those enthused by the 2017 Manifesto wanted to lose.
Labour may never again get 12.9m votes or ever again be in power precisely because they offer nothing to traditional WWC voters
The labour view and that of the online labour supporters is these communities are sinners who voted against their own self interest (the Labour Party) and will repent and come home. Labour don’t think they need to offer anything aside from not being Tories.
I increasingly think the police want to redact partly because various security issues at the centre of government look woefully lax, and they're implicated ; and also because the report might simultaneously reveal their extremely tolerant attitude to any wrongdoing at No.10. Fused together with which somewhere is probably Cressida Dick's personal loyalty to Boris Johnson.
If you take this together with the enormous delay and apparent bafflement at the entire idea of investigating No.10 in the first place, it makes perfect sense. The underlying attitude is one of extreme indulgence, and Sue Gray's report therefore would represent just an annoying interlude before returning to the default, combined attitude ; a clearly undemocratic level of indulgence, and lax security with those are the top ; by redacting the details of both.
Slightly less cynically, maybe the police were astonished to find how lax everything is, and how complicated this would make what they'd previously hoped would be a 48-hour job involving reviewing a few email invitations.
No.10 and the broader area supposedly have more police cameras than almost anywhere else in London, and are also an absolutely top police priority. The extremely lax attitude, both to security protocols with the top people, and any rule-breaking, must have been in some way known to, and cleared from, the very top, to begin with.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
You're right - Labour really need to nail down that under 25 cohort. As we've seen from previous elections, they do a brilliant job of both voting and persuading their parents to ex-scum.
I agree on the finances too - he should have taken every case to court, defended the Palestinian position, and ignored any damages awards.
The under 25 vote was a massive reason why Lab got 12.9m votes in 2017
SKS inherited £13.5m of current Assets he has blown the lot and the Party wont make it through 2022 financially unless some massively rich Donors turn up. Of course they wont want anything in return
And the pulsating, rotting liability of people like you, infecting what used to be a party of government.
2017? A loss. What scares you most of all is actually winning.
Why? Because you think most Brits are scum. And if they vote for you, that makes you scum too.
A rather silly comment
You think the under 25s and all those enthused by the 2017 Manifesto wanted to lose.
Labour may never again get 12.9m votes or ever again be in power precisely because they offer nothing to traditional WWC voters
The second bit I agree with. But your ilk are not the answer.
The litmus test is something like the Falklands. If a Labour leader can't commit to defending them, then they're useless.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Isn't The Momentum with Jeremy? Asking for a friend.
No Jeremy is living rent free in Centrists heads despite hm being a complete irrelevance ATM
You are obsessed Pete
Look, not hating Jews is certainly a character flaw. No one disputes that. But I think you are attaching too much weight to it in the overall scheme of things.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
Scottish National Party Gordon Lamb House 3 Jackson's Entry Edinburgh, Scotland EH8 8PJ https://www.snp.org/contact/
Well thanks for clearing that up Sunil.
I honestly I had no idea.
At least we can all agree their ideology is NATIONALIST.
No, we can't. Nationalists are right wingers like you, HYUFD, etc. . I'm a centrist independist. I don't go out waving the Saltire and goiung on and on and on about the glorious nation and the Royal Family.
Ha ha ha - Enjoy your kool aid NATIONALIST.
The remarkable thing about the SNP is, though there are undoubtedly some unsavoury types on their midst, they have avoided the Corbyn/Momentum problem very well.
We have these huge marches in Edinburgh full of nutters with hundreds of saltires, 'burn the Tories' (read English), etc, but no SNP MSPs anywhere near them. Smart.
It speaks well for the Scottish education system that they can spell 'burn.' There is actually graffiti on the A38 near Gloucester where somebody got that wrong and wrote 'bun the Tories.'
That was in 2017.* If only s/he had waited five years...
*It's still there albeit rather faded now. Not sure whether nobody can be bothered to remove it or the police just like seeing it as they drive past en route to their HQ at Waterwells.
I think it was on the M6, not far north of Birmingham, where someone had done a "lesson on how not to be a middle lane hog" over the course of at least half a dozen bridges. It might have been the M5 though, I forget. But it was great.
Understandable to be incredible annoyed at middle lane hogs, but the follow through was incredible.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
You're right - Labour really need to nail down that under 25 cohort. As we've seen from previous elections, they do a brilliant job of both voting and persuading their parents to ex-scum.
I agree on the finances too - he should have taken every case to court, defended the Palestinian position, and ignored any damages awards.
The under 25 vote was a massive reason why Lab got 12.9m votes in 2017
SKS inherited £13.5m of current Assets he has blown the lot and the Party wont make it through 2022 financially unless some massively rich Donors turn up. Of course they wont want anything in return
And the pulsating, rotting liability of people like you, infecting what used to be a party of government.
2017? A loss. What scares you most of all is actually winning.
Why? Because you think most Brits are scum. And if they vote for you, that makes you scum too.
A rather silly comment
You think the under 25s and all those enthused by the 2017 Manifesto wanted to lose.
Labour may never again get 12.9m votes or ever again be in power precisely because they offer nothing to traditional WWC voters
The second bit I agree with. But your ilk are not the answer.
The litmus test is something like the Falklands. If a Labour leader can't commit to defending them, then they're useless.
Michael Foot did, and still got eviscerated.
Hmmm.
I think the point still stands, though I'm young (relatively) so not sure if Foot disproves it.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
You're right - Labour really need to nail down that under 25 cohort. As we've seen from previous elections, they do a brilliant job of both voting and persuading their parents to ex-scum.
I agree on the finances too - he should have taken every case to court, defended the Palestinian position, and ignored any damages awards.
The under 25 vote was a massive reason why Lab got 12.9m votes in 2017
SKS inherited £13.5m of current Assets he has blown the lot and the Party wont make it through 2022 financially unless some massively rich Donors turn up. Of course they wont want anything in return
And the pulsating, rotting liability of people like you, infecting what used to be a party of government.
2017? A loss. What scares you most of all is actually winning.
Why? Because you think most Brits are scum. And if they vote for you, that makes you scum too.
A rather silly comment
You think the under 25s and all those enthused by the 2017 Manifesto wanted to lose.
Labour may never again get 12.9m votes or ever again be in power precisely because they offer nothing to traditional WWC voters
The labour view and that of the online labour supporters is these communities are sinners who voted against their own self interest (the Labour Party) and will repent and come home. Labour don’t think they need to offer anything aside from not being Tories.
SKS thinks exactly that. Remoaners in Lab like the whole front bench now think exactly that.
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
Scottish National Party Gordon Lamb House 3 Jackson's Entry Edinburgh, Scotland EH8 8PJ https://www.snp.org/contact/
Well thanks for clearing that up Sunil.
I honestly I had no idea.
At least we can all agree their ideology is NATIONALIST.
No, we can't. Nationalists are right wingers like you, HYUFD, etc. . I'm a centrist independist. I don't go out waving the Saltire and goiung on and on and on about the glorious nation and the Royal Family.
Ha ha ha - Enjoy your kool aid NATIONALIST.
The remarkable thing about the SNP is, though there are undoubtedly some unsavoury types on their midst, they have avoided the Corbyn/Momentum problem very well.
We have these huge marches in Edinburgh full of nutters with hundreds of saltires, 'burn the Tories' (read English), etc, but no SNP MSPs anywhere near them. Smart.
It speaks well for the Scottish education system that they can spell 'burn.' There is actually graffiti on the A38 near Gloucester where somebody got that wrong and wrote 'bun the Tories.'
That was in 2017.* If only s/he had waited five years...
*It's still there albeit rather faded now. Not sure whether nobody can be bothered to remove it or the police just like seeing it as they drive past en route to their HQ at Waterwells.
I think it was on the M6, not far north of Birmingham, where someone had done a "lesson on how not to be a middle lane hog" over the course of at least half a dozen bridges. It might have been the M5 though, I forget. But it was great.
Understandable to be incredible annoyed at middle lane hogs, but the follow through was incredible.
Could have done with that on the M5 this evening. Not one, not two, but three cars tootling along at 60 in the third lane past Droitwich.
Fortunately it was very quiet so I had no difficulty getting into the fast lane.
I increasingly think the police want to redact partly because various security issues at the centre of government look woefully lax, and they're implicated ; and also because the report might simultaneously reveal their extremely tolerant attitude to any wrongdoing at No.10. Fused together with which somewhere is probably Cressida Dick's personal loyalty to Boris Johnson.
If you take this together with the enormous delay and apparent bafflement at the entire idea of investigating No.10 in the first place, it makes perfect sense. The underlying attitude is one of extreme indulgence, and Sue Gray's report therefore would represent just an annoying interlude before returning to the default, combined attitude ; a clearly undemocratic level of indulgence, and lax security with those are the top ; by redacting the details of both.
Slightly less cynically, maybe the police were astonished to find how lax everything is, and how complicated this would make what they'd previously hoped would be a 48-hour job involving reviewing a few email invitations.
No.10 and the broader area supposedly have more police cameras than almost anywhere else in London, and are also an absolutely top police priority. The extremely lax attitude, both to security protocols with the top people, and any rule-breaking, must have been in some way been known to, and licensed from, the top to begin with.
The police are not inside Downing Street (as far as I know). Are they even watching cameras? iirc from Matt Hancock's handsgate, that has been privatised. "The top" is either the Prime Minister, his chief of staff or one of the Civil Service heads.
I increasingly think the police want to redact partly because various security issues at the centre of government look woefully lax, and they're implicated ; and also because the report might simultaneously reveal their extremely tolerant attitude to any wrongdoing at No.10. Fused together with which somewhere is probably Cressida Dick's personal loyalty to Boris Johnson.
If you take this together with the enormous delay and apparent bafflement at the entire idea of investigating No.10 in the first place, it makes perfect sense. The underlying attitude is one of extreme indulgence, and Sue Gray's report therefore would represent just an annoying interlude before returning to the default, combined attitude ; a clearly undemocratic level of indulgence, and lax security with those are the top ; by redacting the details of both.
Slightly less cynically, maybe the police were astonished to find how lax everything is, and how complicated this would make what they'd previously hoped would be a 48-hour job involving reviewing a few email invitations.
No.10 and the broader area supposedly have more police cameras than almost anywhere else in London, and are also an absolutely top police priority. The extremely lax attitude, both to security protocols with the top people, and any rule-breaking, must have been in some way been known to, and licensed from, the top to begin with.
The police are not inside
Which is a shame as that's where quite a lot of them belong.
(Please forgive me my shameless ripping away of the context.)
No point. Why would anyone vote for a slate of synthetic pro-independence candidates (with a leader in London who daren't let Scotland go) when they can keep on voting for real ones?
The price of the, rather likely, Lab/SNP coalition will enevitably be an #indyref2
I hope Boris goes soon and the new leader can write a rather simple letter post the inevitable Section 30 request.
Indyref2 for Scotland and a push for PR if they win the referendum.
PR push by SNP of Lab?
If SNP Types win their indyref2 to all bets are off including the voting system.
PR means the Unions and Corbynites walk out of the Labour party and start their own party and there is never a Labour majority government again.
That is also the price. ReformUK would win MPs too and it ends the 2 party system
Why would the SNP want PR when they are massive winners from FPTP?
2019 Election
Con 44% of vote, 56% of seats Lab 32% of vote, 31% of seats SNP 4% of vote, 7% of seats LD 12% of vote, 2% of seats
Labour and the Conservative should run with a PR in Scotland policy. (As in PR for Westminster elections in Scotland.)
Labour, Con and the Media are weak as fuck on the Nationalist problem.
These people should be getting no platformed and banned from parliament.
I quite agree. The Britnats and the media are an absolute disgrace. But I wouldn't go so far as to ban them.
There's only one party with NATIONALIST in it's name.
If it walks like a duck...
Fuck me, do you really not know how wrong that is?
I thought you lived in Scotland?
I live in Aberdeen enjoying the fine weather at the moment.
But you don't know what SNP stands for...
Of course I do.
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
Scottish Nationalist Party.
Is Mr Johnson leader of the Conservationist Party?
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
You're in Momentum and you're with Boris?
I have never been in Momentum. I have never voted for Boris
You are as obsessed like the rest of the Centrists with the past. and factional battles
Is it because you are completely incapable of coming up with any other reason why SKS is going backward faster than an Italian tank?
I voted for Nandy. However, I want us to succeed under the leader we democratically elected.
So did I
The democratically elected leader lied that he was the man to unite the Party He has spent his whole 2 years as leader trying to destroy half of it.
I want Labour to lose as it doesnt represent a single thing the half of the Party SKS has spent 2 years trying to destroy, stand for.
If Burnham was leader I would be back in like a shot.
Instead we have a man with no charisma no radical policies.and some policies way to the right of the Tories under Johnson
Obviously jezzas heart was in the right place as far as the Final Solution is concerned, but I can genuinely say that he was by a clear margin the most stupid human being to occupy a position of any importance in politics that I have ever known or read about. Does that not make a difference in your view?
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
Of course if Jeremy were Labour leader...
What you going on about now.
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
You're right - Labour really need to nail down that under 25 cohort. As we've seen from previous elections, they do a brilliant job of both voting and persuading their parents to ex-scum.
I agree on the finances too - he should have taken every case to court, defended the Palestinian position, and ignored any damages awards.
The under 25 vote was a massive reason why Lab got 12.9m votes in 2017
SKS inherited £13.5m of current Assets he has blown the lot and the Party wont make it through 2022 financially unless some massively rich Donors turn up. Of course they wont want anything in return
And the pulsating, rotting liability of people like you, infecting what used to be a party of government.
2017? A loss. What scares you most of all is actually winning.
Why? Because you think most Brits are scum. And if they vote for you, that makes you scum too.
A rather silly comment
You think the under 25s and all those enthused by the 2017 Manifesto wanted to lose.
Labour may never again get 12.9m votes or ever again be in power precisely because they offer nothing to traditional WWC voters
The second bit I agree with. But your ilk are not the answer.
The litmus test is something like the Falklands. If a Labour leader can't commit to defending them, then they're useless.
Michael Foot did, and still got eviscerated.
Hmmm.
I think the point still stands, though I'm young (relatively) so not sure if Foot disproves it.
Foot was an ardent patriot and a noted critic and indeed staunch resistor of foreign aggression.
Including when perpetrated by Britain, which is why he got tagged as not a friend of his own country.
He had no hesitation in condemning the Argentine invasion and was unstinting in his support for the government through the war, including being the first to congratulate the government and Thatcher personally on their success when the invaders surrendered.
Many in his wider party, on the other hand, was far too keen to actively support Argentina despite Galtieri's thuggish record against their fellow socialists, simply in the hope of embarrassing Thatcher.
It was not as important in 1983 as many on the left like to pretend, as an alibi for their failure, but it was also noted and was not popular.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
You're in Momentum and you're with Boris?
I have never been in Momentum. I have never voted for Boris
You are as obsessed like the rest of the Centrists with the past. and factional battles
Is it because you are completely incapable of coming up with any other reason why SKS is going backward faster than an Italian tank?
I voted for Nandy. However, I want us to succeed under the leader we democratically elected.
So did I
The democratically elected leader lied that he was the man to unite the Party He has spent his whole 2 years as leader trying to destroy half of it.
I want Labour to lose as it doesnt represent a single thing the half of the Party SKS has spent 2 years trying to destroy, stand for.
If Burnham was leader I would be back in like a shot.
Instead we have a man with no charisma no radical policies.and some policies way to the right of the Tories under Johnson
Obviously jezzas heart was in the right place as far as the Final Solution is concerned, but I can genuinely say that he was by a clear margin the most stupid human being to occupy a position of any importance in politics that I have ever known or read about. Does that not make a difference in your view?
Nadine Dorries is not occupying a position of importance?
I increasingly think the police want to redact partly because various security issues at the centre of government look woefully lax, and they're implicated ; and also because the report might simultaneously reveal their extremely tolerant attitude to any wrongdoing at No.10. Fused together with which somewhere is probably Cressida Dick's personal loyalty to Boris Johnson.
If you take this together with the enormous delay and apparent bafflement at the entire idea of investigating No.10 in the first place, it makes perfect sense. The underlying attitude is one of extreme indulgence, and Sue Gray's report therefore would represent just an annoying interlude before returning to the default, combined attitude ; a clearly undemocratic level of indulgence, and lax security with those are the top ; by redacting the details of both.
Slightly less cynically, maybe the police were astonished to find how lax everything is, and how complicated this would make what they'd previously hoped would be a 48-hour job involving reviewing a few email invitations.
No.10 and the broader area supposedly have more police cameras than almost anywhere else in London, and are also an absolutely top police priority. The extremely lax attitude, both to security protocols with the top people, and any rule-breaking, must have been in some way been known to, and licensed from, the top to begin with.
The police are not inside Downing Street (as far as I know). Are they even watching cameras? iirc from Matt Hancock's handsgate, that has been privatised. "The top" is either the Prime Minister, his chief of staff or one of the Civil Service heads.
From what I understand or have read in the last few days, the westminster and downing street police and their facilities belong to the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Group, who presumably answer straight to the higher-ups in the police top brass, as well as the heads of the civil service. If they were only answering to Boris Johnson, presumably we'd all have a big problem.
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
You're in Momentum and you're with Boris?
I have never been in Momentum. I have never voted for Boris
You are as obsessed like the rest of the Centrists with the past. and factional battles
Is it because you are completely incapable of coming up with any other reason why SKS is going backward faster than an Italian tank?
I voted for Nandy. However, I want us to succeed under the leader we democratically elected.
So did I
The democratically elected leader lied that he was the man to unite the Party He has spent his whole 2 years as leader trying to destroy half of it.
I want Labour to lose as it doesnt represent a single thing the half of the Party SKS has spent 2 years trying to destroy, stand for.
If Burnham was leader I would be back in like a shot.
Instead we have a man with no charisma no radical policies.and some policies way to the right of the Tories under Johnson
Obviously jezzas heart was in the right place as far as the Final Solution is concerned, but I can genuinely say that he was by a clear margin the most stupid human being to occupy a position of any importance in politics that I have ever known or read about. Does that not make a difference in your view?
Nadine Dorries is not occupying a position of importance?
She's just a lightweight - oh, sorry, I thought you were talking about Rees-Mogg!
Guardian reporting Jennifer Arcuri could yet do for Johnson.
Or is that just wishful thinking?
The Guardian fishing for more fish from the barrel isn't news.
Re header: A good thing about Boris is that he is behind his ministers. In my view he's generally right in that. Dorries isn't doing anything so awful, and nor is JRM - in both cases they're an uncomfortable fit, but I'm fairly sure that they're also doing decent jobs. Priti Patel is the most obvious example - despite the overwhelmingly negative press she seems to be doing not so badly.
What is it that our esteemed Home Secretary is "doing not so badly" at? Stopping migrants crossing the channel? A whole six per cent of crimes solved? Record sex offences? Or did you mean directing the Met to derail Sue Gray? ETA or have I been wooshed?
All Home Secretaries are unpopular. (I can only say what I think, and they may be daft thoughts.)
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
You're in Momentum and you're with Boris?
I have never been in Momentum. I have never voted for Boris
You are as obsessed like the rest of the Centrists with the past. and factional battles
Is it because you are completely incapable of coming up with any other reason why SKS is going backward faster than an Italian tank?
I voted for Nandy. However, I want us to succeed under the leader we democratically elected.
So did I
The democratically elected leader lied that he was the man to unite the Party He has spent his whole 2 years as leader trying to destroy half of it.
I want Labour to lose as it doesnt represent a single thing the half of the Party SKS has spent 2 years trying to destroy, stand for.
If Burnham was leader I would be back in like a shot.
Instead we have a man with no charisma no radical policies.and some policies way to the right of the Tories under Johnson
Obviously jezzas heart was in the right place as far as the Final Solution is concerned, but I can genuinely say that he was by a clear margin the most stupid human being to occupy a position of any importance in politics that I have ever known or read about. Does that not make a difference in your view?
Nadine Dorries is not occupying a position of importance?
The broken, sleazy Tories haven't had a poll lead since December 6th's Redfield & Wilton.
The momentum is with Boris.
February will be back to poll leads unless he is arrested or resigns
You're in Momentum and you're with Boris?
I have never been in Momentum. I have never voted for Boris
You are as obsessed like the rest of the Centrists with the past. and factional battles
Is it because you are completely incapable of coming up with any other reason why SKS is going backward faster than an Italian tank?
I voted for Nandy. However, I want us to succeed under the leader we democratically elected.
So did I
The democratically elected leader lied that he was the man to unite the Party He has spent his whole 2 years as leader trying to destroy half of it.
I want Labour to lose as it doesnt represent a single thing the half of the Party SKS has spent 2 years trying to destroy, stand for.
If Burnham was leader I would be back in like a shot.
Instead we have a man with no charisma no radical policies.and some policies way to the right of the Tories under Johnson
Obviously jezzas heart was in the right place as far as the Final Solution is concerned, but I can genuinely say that he was by a clear margin the most stupid human being to occupy a position of any importance in politics that I have ever known or read about. Does that not make a difference in your view?
Nadine Dorries is not occupying a position of importance?
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Re header: A good thing about Boris is that he is behind his ministers. In my view he's generally right in that. Dorries isn't doing anything so awful, and nor is JRM - in both cases they're an uncomfortable fit, but I'm fairly sure that they're also doing decent jobs. Priti Patel is the most obvious example - despite the overwhelmingly negative press she seems to be doing not so badly.
I thought you lived in Scotland?
And that your posting was very specifically a complaint about the incompetence of the Labour and Conservative Paries and the media for being inadequate on the Nationalist problem, whatever that is. You were wanting them banned and no platformed.
Wikipedia isn't automatically correct about everything. (Talking generally, not about this subject).
He isnt
He will never be ever again
Doesnt alter the fact that SKS is a factional useless nonentity with less charisma than a paper bag and fewer policies than the worlds worst insurance salesman
Doesnt alter the fact that he has bankrupted Labour and lost more than half of the Muslim vote and the under 25 vote
All his eggs are in the flag shagging basket and he will lose big time in 2024
Apart from that .........
... for the BNP.
I think there’s a good argument for banning them, anyway, from a paternalistic perspective - they create debt traps etc.
If I were king, I’d ban most debt products.
You are obsessed Pete
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/29/fresh-revelations-about-jennifer-arcuri-affair-threaten-to-damage-boris-johnson
"Boris Johnson is facing damaging new revelations about his relationship with the US businesswoman Jennifer Arcuri after hundreds of page of notes and documents were handed to officials at the Greater London Authority (GLA) overseeing two separate investigations into their affair.
Last month the GLA oversight committee summonsed and received a significant number of documents – including emails to and from Arcuri – from a London tourism and promotional agency as part of an inquiry into whether Johnson abused his position as London mayor to “benefit and reward” the American businesswoman. [...]
Arcuri is also said to be cooperating fully with a separate investigation by the GLA’s ethics watchdog that raises the prospect of Johnson facing an investigation for a potential criminal offence of misconduct in public office."
This has nothing to do with the fact that it's an article written by 'Reklaws' who seems to be very close to Steve Walker...
Similarly, woe betide anyone who points out Richard III usurped the throne and murdered his nephews. Isannani, who clearly is not internationally renowned nutcase Johanna Haminga, will Wade in to do violent battle.
Just a couple of articles that spring to mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats_(UK)
I've seen that done a few times.
I agree on the finances too - he should have taken every case to court, defended the Palestinian position, and ignored any damages awards.
You are as obsessed like the rest of the Centrists with the past. and factional battles
Is it because you are completely incapable of coming up with any other reason why SKS is going backward faster than an Italian tank?
Which makes me think - Labour wouldn’t have a lead if the Tories replaced BoJo with someone more credible
Boris say's it every week in response to Blackford.
Scottish Nationalist Party.
He's living rent free in many Corbynista heads...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10455085/Rishi-Sunak-thinks-Boris-Johnson-WONT-survive-Partygate.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_National_Party
Scottish National Party
Gordon Lamb House
3 Jackson's Entry
Edinburgh, Scotland
EH8 8PJ
https://www.snp.org/contact/
Relative to Johnson, the extraordinarily successful (in the real, actual world - not the NUS or a nutty trade union) Starmer is doing ok.
SKS inherited £13.5m of current Assets he has blown the lot and the Party wont make it through 2022 financially unless some massively rich Donors turn up. Of course they wont want anything in return
And then sent out the original MS Word document, unaware anyone could read them just by using the select tool.
I honestly had no idea.
At least we can all agree their ideology is NATIONALIST.
In fact, to the degree that some of them turned the things round and went backwards facing the enemy, so that the engine at least might catch some of the OQF 2-pounder solid shot coming their way.
2017? A loss. What scares you most of all is actually winning.
Why? Because you think most Brits are scum. And if they vote for you, that makes you scum too.
People either make the repayments, or they don't. The question I suppose is, if they don't make the 'interest free' repayments of say a hundred quid, what happens then?
That is what I would really like to understand, before I can make any judgements about this.
You think the under 25s and all those enthused by the 2017 Manifesto wanted to lose.
Labour may never again get 12.9m votes or ever again be in power precisely because they offer nothing to traditional WWC voters
I'm still revelling in the glorious victory of 2017.
We have these huge marches in Edinburgh full of nutters with hundreds of saltires, 'burn the Tories' (read English), etc, but no SNP MSPs anywhere near them. Smart.
Let's hope one of the Sunday papers has something juicy to get us posting about.
The litmus test is something like the Falklands. If a Labour leader can't commit to defending them, then they're useless.
I don't care what trips them up but I hope it will be soon.
That was in 2017.* If only s/he had waited five years...
*It's still there albeit rather faded now. Not sure whether nobody can be bothered to remove it or the police just like seeing it as they drive past en route to their HQ at Waterwells.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/art/artists/ai-weiwei-obvious-covid-not-natural-disease-something-leaked/
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/ai-weiwei-covid-19-origin-china-b2003381.html
The democratically elected leader lied that he was the man to unite the Party He has spent his whole 2 years as leader trying to destroy half of it.
I want Labour to lose as it doesnt represent a single thing the half of the Party SKS has spent 2 years trying to destroy, stand for.
If Burnham was leader I would be back in like a shot.
Instead we have a man with no charisma no radical policies.and some policies way to the right of the Tories under Johnson
Understandable to be incredible annoyed at middle lane hogs, but the follow through was incredible.
I think the point still stands, though I'm young (relatively) so not sure if Foot disproves it.
They are in for a rude awakening in 2024
Fortunately it was very quiet so I had no difficulty getting into the fast lane.
(Please forgive me my shameless ripping away of the context.)
Your boy Burnham was shite in the 2015 leadership election. That is why Jezza ended up as leader.
Anyway, I need to dip out.
Including when perpetrated by Britain, which is why he got tagged as not a friend of his own country.
He had no hesitation in condemning the Argentine invasion and was unstinting in his support for the government through the war, including being the first to congratulate the government and Thatcher personally on their success when the invaders surrendered.
Many in his wider party, on the other hand, was far too keen to actively support Argentina despite Galtieri's thuggish record against their fellow socialists, simply in the hope of embarrassing Thatcher.
It was not as important in 1983 as many on the left like to pretend, as an alibi for their failure, but it was also noted and was not popular.
https://twitter.com/timspector/status/1487414741274402817?t=4M4MD9EUqKBGob8DTpEweQ&s=19