Lol, it looks like Johnson’s cited stat about 90% of people in hospital ICUs being unboosted was essentially made up, based on a few conversations he’d had with a few random hospital staff rather than any actual analysis.
Are you implying he makes up bollocks off the top of his head? Well, I never.
I don't doubt he was told that stat by the doctors there. If that's replicated across the country is another matter. It wouldn't be surprising if it was though, would it?
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Well we each jump to our own conclusions.
I had them down as Brexity UKIP types. I freely admit that's my bias, I have no evidence.
There’s crossover. Brexit left support Brexit party for Brexit, hate farage for domestic agenda.
Don’t go hard on yourself Ben, many of the most distinguished academics in the land struggle to tell right wing and left wing libertarians when standing together on a crowd shouting fear is control.
Technically there are controlling methods like fear used and previously used by unsavoury regimes - but these people are idiots because they can’t recognise they don’t live in such a country. But the bottom line is, unlike what they want to think, it’s not politics or philosophy what they done today. where they are wrong begins with their personality disorder. To do what they done today is identical to sticking a red and white flare lit and going off from their arse at a football match so everyone pays attention to them.
30 days custodial will slap their limited brain cells into gear I should think.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
What rot. It was never 'enough' to vaccinate the vulnerable - please show some evidence that it was; it was always the case that the vulnerable were rightly vaccinated first.
15 million jabs to freedom remember that....
No.
Btw, just to help you. All those posters on here going along with your 'racist' theme are most assuredly not racist but are in fact winding you up.
Darn it. I was waiting for the bit where TSE pulls his leg long enough that it actually falls off.....
Tbh I felt for the guy. He's obviously seriously hard of understanding.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
Why? - it's basic identity matrix theory.
If you are from the right parts of the matrix, you have the right to be a dribbling racist loon. If you aren't, you don't.
the right part of the indentit matrix was identical to the left part, the last time I checked (identity matrices being symmetrical).
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
There's a notable absence of any ethnic minorities in the anti-vaxx video posted in the header to this thread. Just far-right twats. Were you there?
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
Why? - it's basic identity matrix theory.
If you are from the right parts of the matrix, you have the right to be a dribbling racist loon. If you aren't, you don't.
the right part of the indentit matrix was identical to the left part, the last time I checked (identity matrices being symmetrical).
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
Why? - it's basic identity matrix theory.
If you are from the right parts of the matrix, you have the right to be a dribbling racist loon. If you aren't, you don't.
the right part of the indentit matrix was identical to the left part, the last time I checked (identity matrices being symmetrical).
Are you saying that the far left is indistinguishable from the far right?
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
There's a notable absence of any ethnic minorities in the anti-vaxx video posted in the header to this thread. Just far-right twats.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
There's a notable absence of any ethnic minorities in the anti-vaxx video posted in the header to this thread. Just far-right twats.
And far left - see Piers Corbyn
Yes, it is curious how this works. Similar to the US - the white tosspots get all Karen and star in Reddit videos attacking shop assistants etc. And minority take up (for a number of minorities) of the vaccines is quietly abysmal....
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
Why? - it's basic identity matrix theory.
If you are from the right parts of the matrix, you have the right to be a dribbling racist loon. If you aren't, you don't.
the right part of the indentit matrix was identical to the left part, the last time I checked (identity matrices being symmetrical).
Are you saying that the far left is indistinguishable from the far right?
*gets coat*
I have some sympathy with the theory that politics is a circle and both sides meet around where Piers Corbyn is.
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
Lol, it looks like Johnson’s cited stat about 90% of people in hospital ICUs being unboosted was essentially made up, based on a few conversations he’d had with a few random hospital staff rather than any actual analysis.
Well it matches Foxy's reports of those in ICY being almost all unvaccinated.
Add in some sick oldies who haven't had their booster and it looks highly likely to me.
The thing you could criticise is that those in ICU haven't just not had their booster but their first and second vaccinations as well.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
when you have a history of being screwed over by whitey there are big barriers...but maybe in your white privilege you havent noticed this
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
Why? - it's basic identity matrix theory.
If you are from the right parts of the matrix, you have the right to be a dribbling racist loon. If you aren't, you don't.
the right part of the indentit matrix was identical to the left part, the last time I checked (identity matrices being symmetrical).
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
when you have a history of being screwed over by whitey there are big barriers...but maybe in your white privilege you havent noticed this
"Pilots Larry Visoski and Dave Rodgers both said the door to the passenger cabin on the Lolita Express was closed at all times so they didn't know what was going on."
Mail
Ummm... The name "Lolita Express" should probably have been an enormous red flag.
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
Exactly. They aren't treating us differently. They're applying the 3rd country rules which our government demanded be imposed upon us.
What’s the warning
Be careful what you wish for - it may become true.
I don't understand the complaints. What did they think "3rd country" meant? This is what they demanded and they've succeeded in being treated thus.
Just wait until next week when the usual suspects try and blame the French for our lack of Border Control Posts, staff or computers.
Except the rights of British citizens with legal residency in the EU that pre-dates Brexit have their rights protected by treaty.
I think this is just Macron being a twat again, assuming the allegation is true.
Blocking the UK, when Belgium had had case rates twice as high as our peak at that point for weeks was the action of a kneejerking numpty.
Stupid comment as usual. Frances relationship with Belgium is quite different from their relationship with the UK. After four years I'd have thought it might have sunk in.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
Why? - it's basic identity matrix theory.
If you are from the right parts of the matrix, you have the right to be a dribbling racist loon. If you aren't, you don't.
the right part of the indentit matrix was identical to the left part, the last time I checked (identity matrices being symmetrical).
Are you saying that the far left is indistinguishable from the far right?
*gets coat*
I have some sympathy with the theory that politics is a circle and both sides meet around where Piers Corbyn is.
The only thing that such an observation truly reveals is that the L-R dimension is not the only one in politics. There's always a problem in flattening multi-dimensional structures into lower dimensions, and politics is no different.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
I think Spiked regard themselves as left wing libertarians. They come across, to me, more like right-libertarian contrarians, though.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
There's a notable absence of any ethnic minorities in the anti-vaxx video posted in the header to this thread. Just far-right twats.
What are Piers Corbyns politics?
i would say piers corbyn is to the left of jeremy on economic issues...but not on things like climate change
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
You can tell they are lefties by looking at them?
It’s interesting. The more I can get into politics the more I can quickly spot which house in my memory city their fellow travellers are in, and second guess them on a range of issues.
I think it’s because I really want to. I really want to pigeon hole them all in different houses on different streets.
The left and right libertarians I have living on libertarian street, on different sides of the road, because they would both agree with the stunt in the header, but go to war over other points of view. And the part of town I have them both living in is the one where due to personality disorder, they struggle to grow up and have matured and balanced points of view.
It’s the same with posters to this site. Some are being constructive and trying to learn themselves - others just post intellectually immature or unnecessarily provoking things in a look at me look at me motivation.
For example, I second guessed my brother and mother would be of gizzlanes maxwell side before they said “they took the money off them, knew what they were getting into, came back for more, now years later claim abuse - the black widows”
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
Exactly. They aren't treating us differently. They're applying the 3rd country rules which our government demanded be imposed upon us.
What’s the warning
Be careful what you wish for - it may become true.
I don't understand the complaints. What did they think "3rd country" meant? This is what they demanded and they've succeeded in being treated thus.
Just wait until next week when the usual suspects try and blame the French for our lack of Border Control Posts, staff or computers.
Except the rights of British citizens with legal residency in the EU that pre-dates Brexit have their rights protected by treaty.
I think this is just Macron being a twat again, assuming the allegation is true.
Blocking the UK, when Belgium had had case rates twice as high as our peak at that point for weeks was the action of a kneejerking numpty.
Stupid comment as usual. Frances relationship with Belgium is quite different from their relationship with the UK. After four years I'd have thought it might have sunk in.
So you're saying that France doesn't follow the science? Right, glad we're on the same page that this is a political manoeuvre.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
when you have a history of being screwed over by whitey there are big barriers...but maybe in your white privilege you havent noticed this
Enlighten us, what barriers?
barrier of trust for a start...you ought to talk to more black people get to know them
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
There's a notable absence of any ethnic minorities in the anti-vaxx video posted in the header to this thread. Just far-right twats.
What are Piers Corbyns politics?
i would say piers corbyn is to the left of jeremy on economic issues...but not on things like climate change
"Pilots Larry Visoski and Dave Rodgers both said the door to the passenger cabin on the Lolita Express was closed at all times so they didn't know what was going on."
Mail
Ummm... The name "Lolita Express" should probably have been an enormous red flag.
Did the pilots know it as that name though? Seems doubtful.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
There's a notable absence of any ethnic minorities in the anti-vaxx video posted in the header to this thread. Just far-right twats.
What are Piers Corbyns politics?
Far right QAnon conspiracy stuff these days. It's a complete myth that anti-vaxxers are on the left - there's very few of them there. It's the libertarian, freedom-loving, Trump-worshipping (yes, I know he's vaccinated), Brexit-adoring right that are the vast bulk of the activist, protesting anti-vaxxers. The passive anti-vaxxers may be somewhat more varied, containing a fair few Green / do not pollute my yoga-perfect body types.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
when you have a history of being screwed over by whitey there are big barriers...but maybe in your white privilege you havent noticed this
Enlighten us, what barriers?
barrier of trust for a start...you ought to talk to more black people get to know them
Eh, the vaccine is being used worldwide on all kinds of people. What possible nefarious reason could there be?
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
You can tell they are lefties by looking at them?
It’s interesting. The more I can get into politics the more I can quickly spot which house in my memory city their fellow travellers are in, and second guess them on a range of issues.
I think it’s because I really want to. I really want to pigeon hole them all in different houses on different streets.
The left and right libertarians I have living on libertarian street, on different sides of the road, because they would both agree with the stunt in the header, but go to war over other points of view. And the part of town I have them both living in is the one where due to personality disorder, they struggle to grow up and have matured and balanced points of view.
It’s the same with posters to this site. Some are being constructive and trying to learn themselves - others just post intellectually immature or unnecessarily provoking things in a look at me look at me motivation.
For example, I second guessed my brother and mother would be of gizzlanes maxwell side before they said “they took the money off them, knew what they were getting into, came back for more, now years later claim abuse - the black widows”
The funny thing about most self proclaimed "libertarians" is they don't know much about liberty.
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
I think Spiked regard themselves as left wing libertarians. They come across, to me, more like right-libertarian contrarians, though.
I totally agree with your post. This is a brilliant conversation. A proper conversation. And it’s on topic because the header asks, explain the mindset.
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
Exactly. They aren't treating us differently. They're applying the 3rd country rules which our government demanded be imposed upon us.
What’s the warning
Be careful what you wish for - it may become true.
I don't understand the complaints. What did they think "3rd country" meant? This is what they demanded and they've succeeded in being treated thus.
Just wait until next week when the usual suspects try and blame the French for our lack of Border Control Posts, staff or computers.
Except the rights of British citizens with legal residency in the EU that pre-dates Brexit have their rights protected by treaty.
This isn't permanent though, its Covid restrictions. Countries have closed their borders completely regardless of treaties.
Not closed to EU residents though AIUI?
British citizens without protected rights fine. With protected rights nah. Protected means err… protected
Three levels of restrictions in place - French citizens, EU citizens, everyone else. We're in the everyone else camp. Yes there are protected rights but they - like us - can suspend these when required.
We don't like it. May not make sense to lump non-EU into a big bucket. But they are not treating us differently.
by the way many antivaxxers genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...you may denounce this belief as silly...but when you try to force the vaccine on such people things get volatile
Ghislaine Maxwell is always described as a 'socialite'.
Is 'socialite' a portmanteau of 'social' and 'parasite' ?
Which reminds me. Mrs P and I gave up on A Very British Scandal after two episodes because we decided we really couldn't give a shit about any of the characters in it. They were all a bunch of idle, rich, lying, upper class whiners.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
I think Spiked regard themselves as left wing libertarians. They come across, to me, more like right-libertarian contrarians, though.
Spiked are simply Tankies. They used to be apologists for the Soviets, now they are apologists for Putin.
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
by the way many antivaxxers genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...you may denounce this belief as silly...but when you try to force the vaccine on such people things get volatile
Anyone got that list of anti-vaxxers who died from Covid handy?
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
Why? - it's basic identity matrix theory.
If you are from the right parts of the matrix, you have the right to be a dribbling racist loon. If you aren't, you don't.
the right part of the indentit matrix was identical to the left part, the last time I checked (identity matrices being symmetrical).
Are you saying that the far left is indistinguishable from the far right?
*gets coat*
I have some sympathy with the theory that politics is a circle and both sides meet around where Piers Corbyn is.
Peers Corbyn has an arse cheek in both camps. You are so poetic sometimes Malmsey.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
Why? - it's basic identity matrix theory.
If you are from the right parts of the matrix, you have the right to be a dribbling racist loon. If you aren't, you don't.
the right part of the indentit matrix was identical to the left part, the last time I checked (identity matrices being symmetrical).
Are you saying that the far left is indistinguishable from the far right?
*gets coat*
I have some sympathy with the theory that politics is a circle and both sides meet around where Piers Corbyn is.
Peers Corbyn has an arse cheek in both camps. You are so poetic sometimes Malmsey.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
There's a notable absence of any ethnic minorities in the anti-vaxx video posted in the header to this thread. Just far-right twats.
What are Piers Corbyns politics?
Far right QAnon conspiracy stuff these days. It's a complete myth that anti-vaxxers are on the left - there's very few of them there. It's the libertarian, freedom-loving, Trump-worshipping (yes, I know he's vaccinated), Brexit-adoring right that are the vast bulk of the activist, protesting anti-vaxxers. The passive anti-vaxxers may be somewhat more varied, containing a fair few Green / do not pollute my yoga-perfect body types.
How exactly is Piers Corbyn "right" anything? Is he calling for privatisations? Deregulated markets? Lower taxes?
You lefties love to purge any leftwingers who you dislike and rebrand them as "right", then say you've got no issues on the left since you've redefined any racist socialists as right wing.
Ghislaine Maxwell is always described as a 'socialite'.
Is 'socialite' a portmanteau of 'social' and 'parasite' ?
Which reminds me. Mrs P and I gave up on A Very British Scandal after two episodes because we decided we really couldn't give a shit about any of the characters in it. They were all a bunch of idle, rich, lying, upper class whiners.
The Duchess became a bit more sympathetic in the third part. The whole thing had the whiff of decay of a dying aristocracy. I see why people craved Wilson in 1964.
by the way many antivaxxers genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...you may denounce this belief as silly...but when you try to force the vaccine on such people things get volatile
Anyone got that list of anti-vaxxers who died from Covid handy?
Those sort of national secrets are held in Salisbury Cathedral only.
by the way many antivaxxers genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...you may denounce this belief as silly...but when you try to force the vaccine on such people things get volatile
Anyone got that list of anti-vaxxers who died from Covid handy?
Also that list of people forced to take the vaccine in the UK.....
"@sarahchurchwell So @BBCNews has decided that the expert witness they need on the Maxwell trial is Alan Dershowitz. Who has taken the opportunity to say that it shows how accusations against him and Prince Andrew are wrong. 10:29 PM · Dec 29, 2021"
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
when you have a history of being screwed over by whitey there are big barriers...but maybe in your white privilege you havent noticed this
The big barrier is that while some may have left the third world physically they're still in the third world mentally.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
I think Spiked regard themselves as left wing libertarians. They come across, to me, more like right-libertarian contrarians, though.
Spiked are simply Tankies. They used to be apologists for the Soviets, now they are apologists for Putin.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
I think Spiked regard themselves as left wing libertarians. They come across, to me, more like right-libertarian contrarians, though.
Yes. Claire Fox is the archetypal Spiked-ite. Used to be extreme left, IRA sympathising. Now in the House of Lords (thanks Boris) as a right-libertarian, contrarian Brexit lover.
by the way many antivaxxers genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...you may denounce this belief as silly...but when you try to force the vaccine on such people things get volatile
Anyone got that list of anti-vaxxers who died from Covid handy?
its what they believe they genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...and of course many of the antivaxxers who died from covid were obese
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
I think Spiked regard themselves as left wing libertarians. They come across, to me, more like right-libertarian contrarians, though.
Spiked are simply Tankies. They used to be apologists for the Soviets, now they are apologists for Putin.
I must say that the people on here who have linked approvingly to Spiked pieces don’t strike me as left wing.
Ghislaine Maxwell is always described as a 'socialite'.
Is 'socialite' a portmanteau of 'social' and 'parasite' ?
Which reminds me. Mrs P and I gave up on A Very British Scandal after two episodes because we decided we really couldn't give a shit about any of the characters in it. They were all a bunch of idle, rich, lying, upper class whiners.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
I think Spiked regard themselves as left wing libertarians. They come across, to me, more like right-libertarian contrarians, though.
Spiked are simply Tankies. They used to be apologists for the Soviets, now they are apologists for Putin.
I await, with some interest, their reaction to Putin sending.... er... tanks into more of Ukraine.
"Pilots Larry Visoski and Dave Rodgers both said the door to the passenger cabin on the Lolita Express was closed at all times so they didn't know what was going on."
Mail
Ummm... The name "Lolita Express" should probably have been an enormous red flag.
Does anyone read/watch Lolita any more ?
Sort of gives the impression you're a bit too interested in the subject.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
when you have a history of being screwed over by whitey there are big barriers...but maybe in your white privilege you havent noticed this
The big barrier is that while some may have left the third world physically they're still in the third world mentally.
that comment is borderline racist you shoukd retract it
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
There's a notable absence of any ethnic minorities in the anti-vaxx video posted in the header to this thread. Just far-right twats.
What are Piers Corbyns politics?
i would say piers corbyn is to the left of jeremy on economic issues...but not on things like climate change
In olden times, Piers was a hero to the (largely right-wing) climate change sceptics because of his theories about weather forecasting based on solar activity. That was before the anti-vax stuff (although come to think of it, are this lot also opposed to MMR and BCG and any other standard childhood vaccinations?).
by the way many antivaxxers genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...you may denounce this belief as silly...but when you try to force the vaccine on such people things get volatile
Anyone got that list of anti-vaxxers who died from Covid handy?
its what they believe they genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...and of course many of the antivaxxers who died from covid were obese
An irrational fear for the fat ones, at least in comparison to the risks from covid.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
You can tell they are lefties by looking at them?
It’s interesting. The more I can get into politics the more I can quickly spot which house in my memory city their fellow travellers are in, and second guess them on a range of issues.
I think it’s because I really want to. I really want to pigeon hole them all in different houses on different streets.
The left and right libertarians I have living on libertarian street, on different sides of the road, because they would both agree with the stunt in the header, but go to war over other points of view. And the part of town I have them both living in is the one where due to personality disorder, they struggle to grow up and have matured and balanced points of view.
It’s the same with posters to this site. Some are being constructive and trying to learn themselves - others just post intellectually immature or unnecessarily provoking things in a look at me look at me motivation.
For example, I second guessed my brother and mother would be of gizzlanes maxwell side before they said “they took the money off them, knew what they were getting into, came back for more, now years later claim abuse - the black widows”
One of the many reasons I love this site is that you'll every so often get a totally counter-intuitive post from someone who confounds your preconceptions with their opinions on some issue or another. Apart from @IshmaelZ, of course. For whom it is routine.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
I think Spiked regard themselves as left wing libertarians. They come across, to me, more like right-libertarian contrarians, though.
Spiked are simply Tankies. They used to be apologists for the Soviets, now they are apologists for Putin.
I have seen it claimed that the former RCP comrades behind Spiked et. al. have simply decided to take the accelerationist path and are doing all they can from within to make life under capitalism so intolerable for the masses that revolution becomes the only option.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
when you have a history of being screwed over by whitey there are big barriers...but maybe in your white privilege you havent noticed this
The big barrier is that while some may have left the third world physically they're still in the third world mentally.
that comment is borderline racist you shoukd retract it
While you claiming the blacks were cheering on Piers Corbyn was just a normal day in the office.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
There's a notable absence of any ethnic minorities in the anti-vaxx video posted in the header to this thread. Just far-right twats.
What are Piers Corbyns politics?
i would say piers corbyn is to the left of jeremy on economic issues...but not on things like climate change
In olden times, Piers was a hero to the (largely right-wing) climate change sceptics because of his theories about weather forecasting based on solar activity. That was before the anti-vax stuff (although come to think of it, are this lot also opposed to MMR and BCG and any other standard childhood vaccinations?).
Yup, Boris specifically was a Piers Corbyn fan before Jeremy became leader of the Labour Party. Weird but true.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
Mick Hume who set it up previous gig was Living Marxism Magazine. There’s libertarian crossover on somethings, sharing juvenile contrarian isms but disagreement amongst left right libertarians on other things. That’s how I pigeonholed them. Living on opposite side of same street.
It gets more fun when you place the street into correct part of town, does libertarian thoughts arise from religious conflict? Is it part of town where everyone’s psychology is flawed in that they have too much ego?
I don’t want to come across like the bomb on dark star, but this is fun.
I also have this theory you can pigeon hole people correctly simply by what art they enjoy.
"Pilots Larry Visoski and Dave Rodgers both said the door to the passenger cabin on the Lolita Express was closed at all times so they didn't know what was going on."
Mail
Ummm... The name "Lolita Express" should probably have been an enormous red flag.
Did the pilots know it as that name though? Seems doubtful.
You might think ATC would have noticed summat was up.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
when you have a history of being screwed over by whitey there are big barriers...but maybe in your white privilege you havent noticed this
The big barrier is that while some may have left the third world physically they're still in the third world mentally.
that comment is borderline racist you shoukd retract it
Do you go around screaming WAAYYCISSSTT at reality you don't like ?
by the way many antivaxxers genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...you may denounce this belief as silly...but when you try to force the vaccine on such people things get volatile
Anyone got that list of anti-vaxxers who died from Covid handy?
its what they believe they genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...and of course many of the antivaxxers who died from covid were obese
Why do they ignore that in the UK, over 50 million people have not died from vaccine or turned into Repitilians?
Anti-vaxxers are making a choice and part of that is to ignore the facts that the vaccine protects against covid.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
when you have a history of being screwed over by whitey there are big barriers...but maybe in your white privilege you havent noticed this
The big barrier is that while some may have left the third world physically they're still in the third world mentally.
that comment is borderline racist you shoukd retract it
While you claiming the blacks were cheering on Piers Corbyn was just a normal day in the office.
so blacks arent allowed to cheer piers corbyn now...do you realise how you sound
Ghislaine Maxwell is always described as a 'socialite'.
Is 'socialite' a portmanteau of 'social' and 'parasite' ?
Which reminds me. Mrs P and I gave up on A Very British Scandal after two episodes because we decided we really couldn't give a shit about any of the characters in it. They were all a bunch of idle, rich, lying, upper class whiners.
You made one more episode than me.....
Incidentally, the Good Lady Wife's uncle and aunt were regular visitors to Inverary Castle at the time of the events covered. Her uncle was a good friend of the Duke. Her uncle and aunt were ribbed constantly about staying in the same bedroom. About the only people there who slept with their partner....
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
when you have a history of being screwed over by whitey there are big barriers...but maybe in your white privilege you havent noticed this
The big barrier is that while some may have left the third world physically they're still in the third world mentally.
that comment is borderline racist you shoukd retract it
While you claiming the blacks were cheering on Piers Corbyn was just a normal day in the office.
so blacks arent allowed to cheer piers corbyn now...do you realise how you sound
I sound perfectly normal. I wouldn't go around saying "the blacks" were doing anything at all as to do so would be racist.
You sound like a deluded Russian bot who is struggling with the English language.
Another revelatory evening when PB's overwhelmingly white male middle class well off contributors opine on why black and ethnic minority people might or might not get vaccinated.
(And please Google to see how this is in fact the case.)
by the way many antivaxxers genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...you may denounce this belief as silly...but when you try to force the vaccine on such people things get volatile
Anyone got that list of anti-vaxxers who died from Covid handy?
its what they believe they genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...and of course many of the antivaxxers who died from covid were obese
Why do they ignore that in the UK, over 50 million people have not died from vaccine or turned into Repitilians?
Anti-vaxxers are making a choice and part of that is to ignore the facts that the vaccine protects against covid.
there are theories circulating in antivaxx circles that the vax turns your immune system into that of an aids patient hence the constant push for boosters...thats what these people believe
by the way many antivaxxers genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...you may denounce this belief as silly...but when you try to force the vaccine on such people things get volatile
Anyone got that list of anti-vaxxers who died from Covid handy?
its what they believe they genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...and of course many of the antivaxxers who died from covid were obese
Why do they ignore that in the UK, over 50 million people have not died from vaccine or turned into Repitilians?
Anti-vaxxers are making a choice and part of that is to ignore the facts that the vaccine protects against covid.
there are theories circulating in antivaxx circles that the vax turns your immune system into that of an aids patient hence the constant push for boosters...thats what these people believe
Ghislaine Maxwell is always described as a 'socialite'.
Is 'socialite' a portmanteau of 'social' and 'parasite' ?
Which reminds me. Mrs P and I gave up on A Very British Scandal after two episodes because we decided we really couldn't give a shit about any of the characters in it. They were all a bunch of idle, rich, lying, upper class whiners.
You made one more episode than me.....
Incidentally, the Good Lady Wife's uncle and aunt were regular visitors to Inverary Castle at the time of the events covered. Her uncle was a good friend of the Duke. Her uncle and aunt were ribbed constantly about staying in the same bedroom. About the only people there who slept with their partner....
Watched the first episode this evening.
Strikes me the BBC have funded at vast expense an absolute turkey.* Who the hell cares about anyone in it?
If you were a BBC exec I expect you will be bloody glad they also funded 80 days around the world which is excellent.
* edit: I image the pitch meeting went along the lines of: it's like the Crown, with similar cast and same use of filters to make it look a bit sepia and old fashioned but it's the next line down i.e Dukes.
Another revelatory evening when PB's overwhelmingly white male middle class well off contributors opine on why black and ethnic minority people might or might not get vaccinated.
(And please Google to see how this is in fact the case.)
I think what we all need to know from you is how many black and ethnic minority mountaineers there are.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
Mick Hume who set it up previous gig was Living Marxism Magazine. There’s libertarian crossover on somethings, sharing juvenile contrarian isms but disagreement amongst left right libertarians on other things. That’s how I pigeonholed them. Living on opposite side of same street.
It gets more fun when you place the street into correct part of town, does libertarian thoughts arise from religious conflict? Is it part of town where everyone’s psychology is flawed in that they have too much ego?
I don’t want to come across like the bomb on dark star, but this is fun.
I also have this theory you can pigeon hole people correctly simply by what art they enjoy.
Pinback: All right, bomb. Prepare to receive new orders. Bomb#20: You are false data. Pinback: Hmmm? Bomb #20: Therefore I shall ignore you. Pinback: Hello... bomb? Bomb #20: False data can act only as a distraction. Therefore, I shall refuse to perceive. Pinback: Hey, bomb? Bomb #20: The only thing that exists is myself. Pinback: Snap out of it, bomb.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
I think Spiked regard themselves as left wing libertarians. They come across, to me, more like right-libertarian contrarians, though.
Spiked are simply Tankies. They used to be apologists for the Soviets, now they are apologists for Putin.
I await, with some interest, their reaction to Putin sending.... er... tanks into more of Ukraine.
by the way many antivaxxers genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...you may denounce this belief as silly...but when you try to force the vaccine on such people things get volatile
Anyone got that list of anti-vaxxers who died from Covid handy?
its what they believe they genuinely believe the vaccine will harm them...and of course many of the antivaxxers who died from covid were obese
Why do they ignore that in the UK, over 50 million people have not died from vaccine or turned into Repitilians?
Anti-vaxxers are making a choice and part of that is to ignore the facts that the vaccine protects against covid.
Their magazine claims 30 million dead from the vaccine. They remind me of Dr. Evil. Scott Evil: Why not just shoot them?
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
thats like saying the reason blacks are underrepresnted in professions is they dont try hard enough. see the problem
It really isn't. There's no barrier whatsoever to getting a vaccine.
when you have a history of being screwed over by whitey there are big barriers...but maybe in your white privilege you havent noticed this
The big barrier is that while some may have left the third world physically they're still in the third world mentally.
Or as an alternative while some may have left the second world physically they're still in the second world mentally.
That is I'll guess that vaccination rates for Eastern Europeans in the UK are lower than they are for white British.
I'll further suggest that vaccination rates are a reasonable measure for how well integrated an ethnic demographic is.
Another revelatory evening when PB's overwhelmingly white male middle class well off contributors opine on why black and ethnic minority people might or might not get vaccinated.
(And please Google to see how this is in fact the case.)
I think what we all need to know from you is how many black and ethnic minority mountaineers there are.
Well I think as an Englishman I would think there there are very many people from ethnic minorities who for example ascend Everest, despite the focus being on the white ones.
Another revelatory evening when PB's overwhelmingly white male middle class well off contributors opine on why black and ethnic minority people might or might not get vaccinated.
(And please Google to see how this is in fact the case.)
I think what we all need to know from you is how many black and ethnic minority mountaineers there are.
Well I think as an Englishman I would think there there are very many people from ethnic minorities who for example ascend Everest, despite the focus being on the white ones.
Another revelatory evening when PB's overwhelmingly white male middle class well off contributors opine on why black and ethnic minority people might or might not get vaccinated.
(And please Google to see how this is in fact the case.)
I think what we all need to know from you is how many black and ethnic minority mountaineers there are.
Well I think as an Englishman I would think there there are very many people from ethnic minorities who for example ascend Everest, despite the focus being on the white ones.
Edit: but LOL touche anyway.
Why would a Nepalese ascending Everest count as an ethnic minority ?
Another revelatory evening when PB's overwhelmingly white male middle class well off contributors opine on why black and ethnic minority people might or might not get vaccinated.
(And please Google to see how this is in fact the case.)
I think what we all need to know from you is how many black and ethnic minority mountaineers there are.
Well I think as an Englishman I would think there there are very many people from ethnic minorities who for example ascend Everest, despite the focus being on the white ones.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Why would lefties be reading a far-right website like Spiked?
I think Spiked regard themselves as left wing libertarians. They come across, to me, more like right-libertarian contrarians, though.
Spiked are simply Tankies. They used to be apologists for the Soviets, now they are apologists for Putin.
I await, with some interest, their reaction to Putin sending.... er... tanks into more of Ukraine.
Another revelatory evening when PB's overwhelmingly white male middle class well off contributors opine on why black and ethnic minority people might or might not get vaccinated.
(And please Google to see how this is in fact the case.)
I think what we all need to know from you is how many black and ethnic minority mountaineers there are.
Well I think as an Englishman I would think there there are very many people from ethnic minorities who for example ascend Everest, despite the focus being on the white ones.
Edit: but LOL touche anyway.
Why would a Nepalese ascending Everest count as an ethnic minority ?
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Don’t go hard on yourself Ben, many of the most distinguished academics in the land struggle to tell right wing and left wing libertarians when standing together on a crowd shouting fear is control.
Technically there are controlling methods like fear used and previously used by unsavoury regimes - but these people are idiots because they can’t recognise they don’t live in such a country. But the bottom line is, unlike what they want to think, it’s not politics or philosophy what they done today. where they are wrong begins with their personality disorder. To do what they done today is identical to sticking a red and white flare lit and going off from their arse at a football match so everyone pays attention to them.
30 days custodial will slap their limited brain cells into gear I should think.
Just far-right twats.
Were you there?
But it’s the resounding silence from the Remoaners that amuses
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Not LR symmetric
*gets coat*
Yes, it is curious how this works. Similar to the US - the white tosspots get all Karen and star in Reddit videos attacking shop assistants etc. And minority take up (for a number of minorities) of the vaccines is quietly abysmal....
British citizens without protected rights fine. With protected rights nah. Protected means err… protected
Add in some sick oldies who haven't had their booster and it looks highly likely to me.
The thing you could criticise is that those in ICU haven't just not had their booster but their first and second vaccinations as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_matrix
Is 'socialite' a portmanteau of 'social' and 'parasite' ?
I think it’s because I really want to. I really want to pigeon hole them all in different houses on different streets.
The left and right libertarians I have living on libertarian street, on different sides of the road, because they would both agree with the stunt in the header, but go to war over other points of view. And the part of town I have them both living in is the one where due to personality disorder, they struggle to grow up and have matured and balanced points of view.
It’s the same with posters to this site. Some are being constructive and trying to learn themselves - others just post intellectually immature or unnecessarily provoking things in a look at me look at me motivation.
For example, I second guessed my brother and mother would be of gizzlanes maxwell side before they said “they took the money off them, knew what they were getting into, came back for more, now years later claim abuse - the black widows”
Funny that.
Mind you, I was told that by John Hospers, so....
Glad we’ve dispensed with hypocritical pieties about closure and reconciliation.
We don't like it. May not make sense to lump non-EU into a big bucket. But they are not treating us differently.
Could be an uncomfortable night for him.
Well congrats!
You win One Internet......
You lefties love to purge any leftwingers who you dislike and rebrand them as "right", then say you've got no issues on the left since you've redefined any racist socialists as right wing.
"@sarahchurchwell
So @BBCNews has decided that the expert witness they need on the Maxwell trial is Alan Dershowitz. Who has taken the opportunity to say that it shows how accusations against him and Prince Andrew are wrong.
10:29 PM · Dec 29, 2021"
https://twitter.com/sarahchurchwell/status/1476319449447907344
Sort of gives the impression you're a bit too interested in the subject.
Apart from @IshmaelZ, of course. For whom it is routine.
It gets more fun when you place the street into correct part of town, does libertarian thoughts arise from religious conflict? Is it part of town where everyone’s psychology is flawed in that they have too much ego?
I don’t want to come across like the bomb on dark star, but this is fun.
I also have this theory you can pigeon hole people correctly simply by what art they enjoy.
You're coming across as very puerile.
… The local Tory MP Ben Everitt described the protesters as “dickheads” and urged anyone with information to contact police…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/29/anti-vaxxers-denounce-covid-testing-centre-in-freedom-march-through-milton-keynes
… Confused anti-vaccine protesters entered a test-and-trace centre in Milton Keynes on Wednesday, appearing to believe it was a coronavirus vaccine centre, where they were filmed shouting abuse at staff and appearing to steal equipment...
Anti-vaxxers are making a choice and part of that is to ignore the facts that the vaccine protects against covid.
Incidentally, the Good Lady Wife's uncle and aunt were regular visitors to Inverary Castle at the time of the events covered. Her uncle was a good friend of the Duke. Her uncle and aunt were ribbed constantly about staying in the same bedroom. About the only people there who slept with their partner....
You sound like a deluded Russian bot who is struggling with the English language.
(And please Google to see how this is in fact the case.)
OK.
A bit less verbal pussyfooting around in politics would help.
Will this be treated in the same way as "scum" was?
Strikes me the BBC have funded at vast expense an absolute turkey.* Who the hell cares about anyone in it?
If you were a BBC exec I expect you will be bloody glad they also funded 80 days around the world which is excellent.
* edit: I image the pitch meeting went along the lines of: it's like the Crown, with similar cast and same use of filters to make it look a bit sepia and old fashioned but it's the next line down i.e Dukes.
BBC: Done.
Pinback: All right, bomb. Prepare to receive new orders.
Bomb#20: You are false data.
Pinback: Hmmm?
Bomb #20: Therefore I shall ignore you.
Pinback: Hello... bomb?
Bomb #20: False data can act only as a distraction. Therefore, I shall refuse to perceive.
Pinback: Hey, bomb?
Bomb #20: The only thing that exists is myself.
Pinback: Snap out of it, bomb.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/12/15/russia-is-not-the-aggressor-here/
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/12/29/harry-reid-nevada-526244
They remind me of Dr. Evil.
Scott Evil: Why not just shoot them?
That is I'll guess that vaccination rates for Eastern Europeans in the UK are lower than they are for white British.
I'll further suggest that vaccination rates are a reasonable measure for how well integrated an ethnic demographic is.
Edit: but LOL touche anyway.
They taking away people's freedom to test.
The clue, my deluded little friends, is that in the former they stick a plastic swab down your throat rather than stick a needle in your arm.
For some reason I now have visions of a certain poster here exchanging Tank Porn with the Spike editorial staff....