This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
So @BBCNews has decided that the expert witness they need on the Maxwell trial is Alan Dershowitz. Who has taken the opportunity to say that it shows how accusations against him and Prince Andrew are wrong.
I am currently "isolating". Since I live alone and WFH, there is little difference to my usual life except I now get groceries online. I was at my son's over Xmas and he has had a positive PCR. He has not had a booster yet. I have a negative LFT, been boosted and I feel fine, but still have to isolate for 10 days. I have been requested via the app to take a PCR test, but apparently I should still isolate even if that is negative too, so what's the point in taking one? Vaccines work, boosters work. And Johnson, Sturgeon and Drakeford being absolute CU Next Tuesdays with the restrictions doesn't change that. I am coming to the conclusion that Track & Trace is simply stopping healthy people from working.
You are not required to self-isolate if you have been vaccinated.
"Contacts who are not required to self-isolate If you have had contact with someone who has COVID-19 you are at higher risk of becoming infected yourself and are strongly advised to take daily LFDs for 7 days.
If you have been in contact with someone who has tested positive for COVID-19, you are not legally required to self-isolate if you are fully vaccinated or you are below the age of 18 years 6 months."
To protect yourself and those around you, follow the guidance for staying safe and helping to prevent the spread of the virus. For more information and details about exemption from self-isolation, visit: https://contact-tracing.phe.gov.uk/links/guidance-for-contacts
To update details on your Test and Trace account, visit: https://contact-tracing.phe.gov.uk/ and sign in with your account ID and password."
What did yours say?
"Please isolate for the full 10 day isolation period, even if you are fully vaccinated, have no symptoms and your PCR result is negative."
When did you get that message?
When news about Omicron broke the isolation period was introduced for all even the vaccinated, but that was swiftly reversed by the Government who brought back the rule that the vaccinated didn't need to isolate.
To be clear, I am absolutely against people remaining un-vaccinated against COVID, and I've been vaccinated fully. That said, I don't want this to develop into a situation where the geniuses behind Britain's public health think they can use me as a pin cushion every few months for anything going. One doesn't need to subscribe to a nefarious plot to see that as something to be avoided - simple incompetence makes it a bad idea.
Yes, we must use the vaccines where needed, and thank God for them. But the main focus belongs on us reclaiming our own health, not on jabbing.
I agree with this. Though some people immediately and somewhat ridiculously equate this sort of point with anti-vax sentiment.
That number will be absolutely enormous. I always thought the 27th of Dec or 5th Jan would be the date Sturgeon goes for new restrictions, and the timing works well for the latter.
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
I could be wrong but I think someone from the Scottish Government at some point recently "suggested" everyone should be taking an LFT every day. So some of the demand problem may be self-inflicted in that sense...
The two tests a week rate was intended to be frequent enough to have a good chance of catching an infection that was substantial enough to likely lead to further infections. It might need to be more frequent with Omicron, but unless there is evidence to back it up I can't see any reason for the public to be doing a daily test unless they work in something like healthcare.
Daily testing with LFTs is recommended for contacts via T and T instead of isolating.
So, in summary, between the entreaties to be cautious and do testing before meeting people all over the holiday period, and the latest version of the rules surrounding isolation, the Government has stoked more demand for tests - even in our system, which compared to many other jurisdictions actually contains a lot of capacity - than can possibly be met by the available supply.
I wonder how many weeks we'll make it into January before the entire testing and isolation system simply collapses? If there are enough workers in vital occupations being forced to isolate at the same time then the requirements will have to be relaxed or scrapped anyway, let alone if tests that permit early release cannot be found for love nor money.
To be clear, I am absolutely against people remaining un-vaccinated against COVID, and I've been vaccinated fully. That said, I don't want this to develop into a situation where the geniuses behind Britain's public health think they can use me as a pin cushion every few months for anything going. One doesn't need to subscribe to a nefarious plot to see that as something to be avoided - simple incompetence makes it a bad idea.
Yes, we must use the vaccines where needed, and thank God for them. But the main focus belongs on us reclaiming our own health, not on jabbing.
To be clear, I am absolutely against people remaining un-vaccinated against COVID, and I've been vaccinated fully. That said, I don't want this to develop into a situation where the geniuses behind Britain's public health think they can use me as a pin cushion every few months for anything going. One doesn't need to subscribe to a nefarious plot to see that as something to be avoided - simple incompetence makes it a bad idea.
Yes, we must use the vaccines where needed, and thank God for them. But the main focus belongs on us reclaiming our own health, not on jabbing.
very good point there
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Exceptionally crap point, actually, what the Holy fuck is "reclaiming our own health" meant to mean? Please elucidate. Does it work better than the polio vaccine against polio, for instance?
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
I could be wrong but I think someone from the Scottish Government at some point recently "suggested" everyone should be taking an LFT every day. So some of the demand problem may be self-inflicted in that sense...
The two tests a week rate was intended to be frequent enough to have a good chance of catching an infection that was substantial enough to likely lead to further infections. It might need to be more frequent with Omicron, but unless there is evidence to back it up I can't see any reason for the public to be doing a daily test unless they work in something like healthcare.
Daily testing with LFTs is recommended for contacts via T and T instead of isolating.
Yes, but that's not "everyone" that's for people who have been instructed to do so by Test and Trace.
Two tests was thought to be sufficient for general testing by the public. Every day pushes the required tests up by 250%, if politicians are giving out such advice it needs to be backed up by evidence that it is necessary.
So @BBCNews has decided that the expert witness they need on the Maxwell trial is Alan Dershowitz. Who has taken the opportunity to say that it shows how accusations against him and Prince Andrew are wrong.
The judge has just adjourned court for the day. No sentencing date has been set yet.
NY Times
Deciding whether her sentence is billions or just millions of years.
I wonder if her suicide watch will be any better than that for her man?
40 years for one of the charges.
She is 60.
I don’t think it makes any difference she’s been found guilty and will be spending the rest of her life in prison.
I suspect it will be the sort of consecutive sentence that the US loves to hand out so probably 60 years in jail.
Good. We should embrace consecutive sentences in this country too.
Its beyond a joke that a criminal can commit as many crimes as they like and they'll only ever risk sentencing for one of them, if that.
Yes, it works so well in America that they have virtually no crime.
The problem with American jails is the ludicrous sentencing for minor drug charges.
For a period, under the Coalition, they changed the rules on bail. If you were out on bail for one offence and committed another offence, then you went on remand. This warehoused a lot of the habituals and the crime rate fell.
To be clear, I am absolutely against people remaining un-vaccinated against COVID, and I've been vaccinated fully. That said, I don't want this to develop into a situation where the geniuses behind Britain's public health think they can use me as a pin cushion every few months for anything going. One doesn't need to subscribe to a nefarious plot to see that as something to be avoided - simple incompetence makes it a bad idea.
Yes, we must use the vaccines where needed, and thank God for them. But the main focus belongs on us reclaiming our own health, not on jabbing.
I agree with this. Though some people immediately and somewhat ridiculously equate this sort of point with anti-vax sentiment.
I was called an anti-vaxxer here for pointing out that constant boosters for younger people isn't necessarily in their personal interest.
Side effects + travel time/time off work make it borderline at the very least.
The judge has just adjourned court for the day. No sentencing date has been set yet.
NY Times
Deciding whether her sentence is billions or just millions of years.
I wonder if her suicide watch will be any better than that for her man?
40 years for one of the charges.
She is 60.
I don’t think it makes any difference she’s been found guilty and will be spending the rest of her life in prison.
I suspect it will be the sort of consecutive sentence that the US loves to hand out so probably 60 years in jail.
Good. We should embrace consecutive sentences in this country too.
Its beyond a joke that a criminal can commit as many crimes as they like and they'll only ever risk sentencing for one of them, if that.
The joke is that length of sentence is a red herring. More important are getting caught and then convicted and tried quickly. Not getting away with it, or being out on bail for two years awaiting trial, which feels like getting away with it.
So @BBCNews has decided that the expert witness they need on the Maxwell trial is Alan Dershowitz. Who has taken the opportunity to say that it shows how accusations against him and Prince Andrew are wrong.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
I had my home broken into while I was in bed and I chased the burglar out of the house catching his reg-plate as he drove off. He'd broken in via damaging a window in the kitchen and left muddy boot prints which the CSI said were as good as fingerprints. He was caught red-handed the next week in another home and confessed to my break-in, the one he was caught in, and 18 others. Had many prior convictions for burglary and had only just been released from prison a few months before breaking into my home. Was sentenced to . . . a suspended jail sentence. Farcical!
I'm willing to hazard a guess if I tracked down the magistrates home and broken into that and was caught red-handed I'd have got more than a suspended sentence for that.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour of persecuting ethnic minorities.
To be clear, I am absolutely against people remaining un-vaccinated against COVID, and I've been vaccinated fully. That said, I don't want this to develop into a situation where the geniuses behind Britain's public health think they can use me as a pin cushion every few months for anything going. One doesn't need to subscribe to a nefarious plot to see that as something to be avoided - simple incompetence makes it a bad idea.
Yes, we must use the vaccines where needed, and thank God for them. But the main focus belongs on us reclaiming our own health, not on jabbing.
I agree with this. Though some people immediately and somewhat ridiculously equate this sort of point with anti-vax sentiment.
I was called an anti-vaxxer here for pointing out that constant boosters for younger people isn't necessarily in their personal interest.
Side effects + travel time/time off work make it borderline at the very least.
Eek twin b was boostered yesterday. it took a total of 5 minutes at a walk in clinic within Grainger market, Newcastle.
We only knew it was on when we discovered the market was closed to the general public as I wanted to see what shoes Scorpio shoes had.
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
You seem to be drunk, and you are almost certainly someone else anyway. I recommend reclaiming your own health while there is still time
This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
What rot. It was never 'enough' to vaccinate the vulnerable - please show some evidence that it was; it was always the case that the vulnerable were rightly vaccinated first.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
You seem to be drunk, and you are almost certainly someone else anyway. I recommend reclaiming your own health while there is still time
Are the death squads on the street already? Bloody hell, Johnson got his act together fast.
So @BBCNews has decided that the expert witness they need on the Maxwell trial is Alan Dershowitz. Who has taken the opportunity to say that it shows how accusations against him and Prince Andrew are wrong.
Alan Dershowitz is another example of someone who used to seem sane and sensible. Then, in the era of Trump, become/revelaved to be a weird, demented parody of the earlier version.
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
OT loss of our heritage. The SS Richard Montgomery is to be made safe. That's the shipwreck stuffed full of bombs, hundreds of tons of them, off Sheerness (and seeing it is probably the main reason for going to Sheerness). Soon there will be nothing to see once they've removed its masts (as it is feared they might collapse on to the explosives below). https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/29/sunken-warship-river-thames-explosives-board-could-cause-mass/ (£££)
Hm, I think the headline is a bit misleading. All they are doing is removing the masts. The bombs will still be there, waiting.
Strange. At least with the masts poking out of the sea, and the 'danger' signs on them; people know exactly where the wreck is and to avoid it. It seems that by moving them there would be a greater chance that the wreck is disturbed.
The actual process of removing them sounds quite risky too.
Could the whole ship be carefully removed to somewhere safer? Like Calais?
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour of persecuting ethnic minorities.
Yeah, fuck em. Cracking pretext, anti vaxxers or not.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
Not too many ethnic minorities among that bunch of idiots in the thread header video, just saying.
This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
What rot. It was never 'enough' to vaccinate the vulnerable - please show some evidence that it was; it was always the case that the vulnerable were rightly vaccinated first.
So @BBCNews has decided that the expert witness they need on the Maxwell trial is Alan Dershowitz. Who has taken the opportunity to say that it shows how accusations against him and Prince Andrew are wrong.
Alan Dershowitz is another example of someone who used to seem sane and sensible. Then, in the era of Trump, become/revelaved to be a weird, demented parody of the earlier version.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
Absolutely, I'm also Islamophobic, proud of it.
You're as Islamophobic as you are a pineapple pizza lover I'm sure.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
Kids dying outside ICU is "not a good look".
A number of the anti-vax memes that are being spread by said minorities are, very, very racist.
This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
What rot. It was never 'enough' to vaccinate the vulnerable - please show some evidence that it was; it was always the case that the vulnerable were rightly vaccinated first.
No. But on the flipside we were told so many times in the original 2 jab rollout that vaccine uptake was much better than public health and government ever expected it to be, indeed, "wildly so", I think was the standard phrase. So on the other hand to complain about the percentage of unvaccinated is - in that context - a bit strange.
There's nothing wrong with striving for even more, but there's a pretty natural ceiling, unless you get much more drastic than vaccine passports to get into a football match or nightclub.
To be clear, I am absolutely against people remaining un-vaccinated against COVID, and I've been vaccinated fully. That said, I don't want this to develop into a situation where the geniuses behind Britain's public health think they can use me as a pin cushion every few months for anything going. One doesn't need to subscribe to a nefarious plot to see that as something to be avoided - simple incompetence makes it a bad idea.
Yes, we must use the vaccines where needed, and thank God for them. But the main focus belongs on us reclaiming our own health, not on jabbing.
I agree with this. Though some people immediately and somewhat ridiculously equate this sort of point with anti-vax sentiment.
I was called an anti-vaxxer here for pointing out that constant boosters for younger people isn't necessarily in their personal interest.
Side effects + travel time/time off work make it borderline at the very least.
Eek twin b was boostered yesterday. it took a total of 5 minutes at a walk in clinic within Grainger market, Newcastle.
We only knew it was on when we discovered the market was closed to the general public as I wanted to see what shoes Scorpio shoes had.
Grainger Market is closed? I'm headed to Toon tomorrow for the first time in over 3 weeks. Whatever will I do?
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
Mate, vaccines have been made available to all and huge efforts have been made to reach out to minority groups.
Black people in particular are right to be suspicious of government healthcare given atrocities in the past. But a line has to be drawn somewhere.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
I'm from an ethnic minority, and I got jabbed in April, in June, and a couple of weeks ago.
OT loss of our heritage. The SS Richard Montgomery is to be made safe. That's the shipwreck stuffed full of bombs, hundreds of tons of them, off Sheerness (and seeing it is probably the main reason for going to Sheerness). Soon there will be nothing to see once they've removed its masts (as it is feared they might collapse on to the explosives below). https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/29/sunken-warship-river-thames-explosives-board-could-cause-mass/ (£££)
Hm, I think the headline is a bit misleading. All they are doing is removing the masts. The bombs will still be there, waiting.
Strange. At least with the masts poking out of the sea, and the 'danger' signs on them; people know exactly where the wreck is and to avoid it. It seems that by moving them there would be a greater chance that the wreck is disturbed.
The actual process of removing them sounds quite risky too.
Could the whole ship be carefully removed to somewhere safer? Like Calais?
Good luck filling out the post-Brexit paperwork on that one 😬
Lol, it looks like Johnson’s cited stat about 90% of people in hospital ICUs being unboosted was essentially made up, based on a few conversations he’d had with a few random hospital staff rather than any actual analysis.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
I'm from an ethnic minority, and I got jabbed in April, in June, and a couple of weeks ago.
Yebbut... only in your arm - there's a huge proportion of you not vaccinated.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
Kids dying outside ICU is "not a good look".
A number of the anti-vax memes that are being spread by said minorities are, very, very racist.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
Not too many ethnic minorities among that bunch of idiots in the thread header video, just saying.
no not in the hard core activist groups but a huge proportion of the unvaxxed. Also i have heard that the blacks were cheeringbthe piers corbyn types as they marched through their communities
Lol, it looks like Johnson’s cited stat about 90% of people in hospital ICUs being unboosted was essentially made up, based on a few conversations he’d had with a few random hospital staff rather than any actual analysis.
He said "up to 90%", so technically accurate as long as it isn't higher.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
Not too many ethnic minorities among that bunch of idiots in the thread header video, just saying.
no not in the hard core activist groups but a huge proportion of the unvaxxed. Also i have heard that the blacks were cheeringbthe piers corbyn types as they marched through their communities
The blacks were doing the cheering were they?
And then everyone on the bus cheered afterwards too I bet!
So @BBCNews has decided that the expert witness they need on the Maxwell trial is Alan Dershowitz. Who has taken the opportunity to say that it shows how accusations against him and Prince Andrew are wrong.
Alan Dershowitz is another example of someone who used to seem sane and sensible. Then, in the era of Trump, become/revelaved to be a weird, demented parody of the earlier version.
See Rudy Giuliani et al...
And about a quarter of all Americans
In a way. But a number of the victims of this syndrome once seemed educated, intelligent etc. Trumpism seems to have caused their brains to decay or something.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
I'm from an ethnic minority, and I got jabbed in April, in June, and a couple of weeks ago.
Yebbut... only in your arm - there's a huge proportion of you not vaccinated.
If there's one person that can transport innoculation from his arm to the rest of his body it'll be Sunil.
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
Exactly. They aren't treating us differently. They're applying the 3rd country rules which our government demanded be imposed upon us.
What’s the warning
Be careful what you wish for - it may become true.
I don't understand the complaints. What did they think "3rd country" meant? This is what they demanded and they've succeeded in being treated thus.
Just wait until next week when the usual suspects try and blame the French for our lack of Border Control Posts, staff or computers.
Except the rights of British citizens with legal residency in the EU that pre-dates Brexit have their rights protected by treaty.
I think this is just Macron being a twat again, assuming the allegation is true.
Blocking the UK, when Belgium had had case rates twice as high as our peak at that point for weeks was the action of a kneejerking numpty.
The point is that thanks to Brexit he can block the British with none of the problems blocking other EU countries would create.
Or, to look at it the other way around, France’s membership of the EU is making it politically difficult for them protect their population by blocking other EU countries such as Belgium.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Well we each jump to our own conclusions.
I had them down as Brexity UKIP types. I freely admit that's my bias, I have no evidence.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
I am reassured by the PB Brain Trust that BoZo is completely on top of things.
There is nothing to see here, and no cause for alarm.
Maybe he can even figure out where he was for the last 10 days..?
Having now watched the interview question I am perfectly content that he was in the UK. See how his tanned face shows no confusion, hesitation or embarrassment when he instantly replies "in this country".
Only traitors would look at his face, his body language and hear his stuttering eventual answer and conclude that he fucked off to Mustique.
Quite frankly I couldn’t give a shit if he’s been in Mustique, or anywhere else over Christmas. No travel restrictions from this end, so who cares. Now if he’s lied about it, then that’s different. I mean why? Why lie?
At a guess, Boris is telling the truth he has been in this country but if at Chequers (where PMs normally spend Christmas) and/or Downing Street for ten days, he could have said. So what is there to hide? Partying with squillionaire Tory donors?
Most likely staying with friends somewhere & they asked him not to say as they don’t want the publicity. He remembered halfway through his answer
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. So if most of the antivaxxers were white it would be okay to persecute them but because they're from ethnic minorities it isn't. It shouldn't matter what ethnicity they are.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
True, I'm in favour persecuting ethnic minorities.
so you are outing yourself as a racist then...there are others too like leon who in his fervour to punish the unvaxxed while i am sure he is not racist does not seem to respect cultural sensitivities
Mate, vaccines have been made available to all and huge efforts have been made to reach out to minority groups.
Black people in particular are right to be suspicious of government healthcare given atrocities in the past. But a line has to be drawn somewhere.
maybe which is why there needs to be more understanding of the black community and their concerns in comments on here.
Lol, it looks like Johnson’s cited stat about 90% of people in hospital ICUs being unboosted was essentially made up, based on a few conversations he’d had with a few random hospital staff rather than any actual analysis.
He said "up to 90%", so technically accurate as long as it isn't higher.
To be clear, I am absolutely against people remaining un-vaccinated against COVID, and I've been vaccinated fully. That said, I don't want this to develop into a situation where the geniuses behind Britain's public health think they can use me as a pin cushion every few months for anything going. One doesn't need to subscribe to a nefarious plot to see that as something to be avoided - simple incompetence makes it a bad idea.
Yes, we must use the vaccines where needed, and thank God for them. But the main focus belongs on us reclaiming our own health, not on jabbing.
I agree with this. Though some people immediately and somewhat ridiculously equate this sort of point with anti-vax sentiment.
I was called an anti-vaxxer here for pointing out that constant boosters for younger people isn't necessarily in their personal interest.
Side effects + travel time/time off work make it borderline at the very least.
Eek twin b was boostered yesterday. it took a total of 5 minutes at a walk in clinic within Grainger market, Newcastle.
We only knew it was on when we discovered the market was closed to the general public as I wanted to see what shoes Scorpio shoes had.
Grainger Market is closed? I'm headed to Toon tomorrow for the first time in over 3 weeks. Whatever will I do?
Was open today, they used it Monday and Tuesday as an additional vaccination site (I suspect centre for life was closed).
To be clear, I am absolutely against people remaining un-vaccinated against COVID, and I've been vaccinated fully. That said, I don't want this to develop into a situation where the geniuses behind Britain's public health think they can use me as a pin cushion every few months for anything going. One doesn't need to subscribe to a nefarious plot to see that as something to be avoided - simple incompetence makes it a bad idea.
Yes, we must use the vaccines where needed, and thank God for them. But the main focus belongs on us reclaiming our own health, not on jabbing.
I agree with this. Though some people immediately and somewhat ridiculously equate this sort of point with anti-vax sentiment.
I was called an anti-vaxxer here for pointing out that constant boosters for younger people isn't necessarily in their personal interest.
Side effects + travel time/time off work make it borderline at the very least.
Eek twin b was boostered yesterday. it took a total of 5 minutes at a walk in clinic within Grainger market, Newcastle.
We only knew it was on when we discovered the market was closed to the general public as I wanted to see what shoes Scorpio shoes had.
Grainger Market is closed? I'm headed to Toon tomorrow for the first time in over 3 weeks. Whatever will I do?
"Pilots Larry Visoski and Dave Rodgers both said the door to the passenger cabin on the Lolita Express was closed at all times so they didn't know what was going on."
Lol, it looks like Johnson’s cited stat about 90% of people in hospital ICUs being unboosted was essentially made up, based on a few conversations he’d had with a few random hospital staff rather than any actual analysis.
He said "up to 90%", so technically accurate as long as it isn't higher.
He should have said ‘up to £350m a week’
In the Sky News report I just read he was clear that the number was based on conversations he had that day. You are right though, it would be much more interesting to see the actual statistics.
This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
What rot. It was never 'enough' to vaccinate the vulnerable - please show some evidence that it was; it was always the case that the vulnerable were rightly vaccinated first.
15 million jabs to freedom remember that....
No.
Btw, just to help you. All those posters on here going along with your 'racist' theme are most assuredly not racist but are in fact winding you up.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
For some reason, this reminds me of the story of a Social Democrat who recognised the SA guy beating him up, as a former Communist.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
What rot. It was never 'enough' to vaccinate the vulnerable - please show some evidence that it was; it was always the case that the vulnerable were rightly vaccinated first.
No. But on the flipside we were told so many times in the original 2 jab rollout that vaccine uptake was much better than public health and government ever expected it to be, indeed, "wildly so", I think was the standard phrase. So on the other hand to complain about the percentage of unvaccinated is - in that context - a bit strange.
There's nothing wrong with striving for even more, but there's a pretty natural ceiling, unless you get much more drastic than vaccine passports to get into a football match or nightclub.
But, nonetheless, if we start to have really serious problems with hospital critical care capacity getting bunged up with people who have refused the vaccines, and our European neighbours start resorting to effective compulsion (not literally holding people down and sticking needles into them, but making their lives very difficult indeed without vaccine certification,) there may be considerable pressure to follow here as well.
If we end up with another round of Draconian restrictions, and the mass of the people successfully deduce that they're being imposed to resolve a problem caused by the wilfully unvaccinated, the public mood is unlikely to be especially forgiving of them. Drastic measures, such as those apparently being contemplated in Italy, might then be put on the table.
So @BBCNews has decided that the expert witness they need on the Maxwell trial is Alan Dershowitz. Who has taken the opportunity to say that it shows how accusations against him and Prince Andrew are wrong.
Alan Dershowitz is another example of someone who used to seem sane and sensible. Then, in the era of Trump, become/revelaved to be a weird, demented parody of the earlier version.
See Rudy Giuliani et al...
And about a quarter of all Americans
In a way. But a number of the victims of this syndrome once seemed educated, intelligent etc. Trumpism seems to have caused their brains to decay or something.
Intelligence is no antidote to madness, and nor is it reliably destroyed by madness. They can exist side by side, the Dr Jekyll showing himself when the Mr Hyde sleeps.
This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
What rot. It was never 'enough' to vaccinate the vulnerable - please show some evidence that it was; it was always the case that the vulnerable were rightly vaccinated first.
15 million jabs to freedom remember that....
No.
Btw, just to help you. All those posters on here going along with your 'racist' theme are most assuredly not racist but are in fact winding you up.
Darn it. I was waiting for the bit where TSE pulls his leg long enough that it actually falls off.....
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
no it wouldnt even if they were all white. But demonising huge numbervof ethnic minorities especially when many of you are highly educated is not a good look
Why should they be treated any differently? The vaccine is available both freely and in a multitude of locations. Vaccine refusers have had every opportunity to have it.
"Pilots Larry Visoski and Dave Rodgers both said the door to the passenger cabin on the Lolita Express was closed at all times so they didn't know what was going on."
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
The same people that said Delta was nothing to worry about, are those that are saying Omicron is nothing to worry about.
So is anyone who said Delta was nothing to worry about, going to stick their head up and say this is different
Who said Delta is nothing to worry about?
I don't recall you calling for a lockdown when Delta was around, we didn't need one was what you and several others said. I remember arguing with you about it
That's not the same thing, is it?
My point is you were wrong then and so I am interested in people that did call for a lockdown then who don't think there is anything to worry about now.
What I am hearing now is the same people that initially said "nothing to worry about" then said "lockdown isn't needed" then said "lockdown 2.0 isn't needed". It's the same people
You keep making these massive sweeping generalisations.
I have generally preferred not to make generalisations.
And with that, good night.
But the French elite are so paranoid about Brexit, so allergic to it and fearful of it, they set a low bar for its success. Britain surviving intact and not starving to death will probably seem quite successful to them. given their direful predictions of total British implosion.
Then the next time the EU does something widely unpopular, eurosceptics across the continent will start to look longingly at independent London.
This is the great French fear. By this guy's account it does stalk their nightmares.
The French are trying to restrict travel to essential only.
By blocking British residents of Belgium or the Netherlands who want to use EuroTunnel and transit France?
Are the blocking British? Or just anyone who isn't EU/Schengen?
Travel from the UK to France
URGENT UPDATE FOR BRITISH RESIDENTS IN EU
Following a French Government decision, on 28/12/2021, unless they hold French residency, British citizens are now considered 3rd country citizens and can no longer transit France by road to reach their country of residence in the EU.
Exactly. They aren't treating us differently. They're applying the 3rd country rules which our government demanded be imposed upon us.
What’s the warning
Be careful what you wish for - it may become true.
I don't understand the complaints. What did they think "3rd country" meant? This is what they demanded and they've succeeded in being treated thus.
Just wait until next week when the usual suspects try and blame the French for our lack of Border Control Posts, staff or computers.
Except the rights of British citizens with legal residency in the EU that pre-dates Brexit have their rights protected by treaty.
I think this is just Macron being a twat again, assuming the allegation is true.
Blocking the UK, when Belgium had had case rates twice as high as our peak at that point for weeks was the action of a kneejerking numpty.
The point is that thanks to Brexit he can block the British with none of the problems blocking other EU countries would create.
I have no particular problem with that in a pandemic situation. Far better that a border can be closed for protection than it be forced to stay open increasing the risk as in eg Fr-Be or Fr-Lu, and in effect meaning that restrictions have to be imposed over a far larger populace, or extra people have to die for the sake of open borders.
But that's not what it looks like in this case. He seems to be violating Schengen.
Which is about Macron not even being able to get this right.
we all have to remember a huge proportion of antivaxxers are from ethnic minorities. Many posters on here seem tobadvocate persecuting these people. Im not suggesting these posters are racist but its not a good look
This is one of the most silly posts I've ever read on here. It shouldn't make any difference what ethnicity they are when it comes to describing their stupid decision.
Why? - it's basic identity matrix theory.
If you are from the right parts of the matrix, you have the right to be a dribbling racist loon. If you aren't, you don't.
That crowd looks a lot whiter and less vegan than your average anti-vaxxers.
The particular class of immature minds in the header, based on the bobble hats, placards, and fear is control strike me as hard left, lefty libertarians, likely readers of spiked which pander to their immature undeveloped brains.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
Lol, it looks like Johnson’s cited stat about 90% of people in hospital ICUs being unboosted was essentially made up, based on a few conversations he’d had with a few random hospital staff rather than any actual analysis.
Are you implying he makes up bollocks off the top of his head? Well, I never.
This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
What rot. It was never 'enough' to vaccinate the vulnerable - please show some evidence that it was; it was always the case that the vulnerable were rightly vaccinated first.
No. But on the flipside we were told so many times in the original 2 jab rollout that vaccine uptake was much better than public health and government ever expected it to be, indeed, "wildly so", I think was the standard phrase. So on the other hand to complain about the percentage of unvaccinated is - in that context - a bit strange.
There's nothing wrong with striving for even more, but there's a pretty natural ceiling, unless you get much more drastic than vaccine passports to get into a football match or nightclub.
But, nonetheless, if we start to have really serious problems with hospital critical care capacity getting bunged up with people who have refused the vaccines, and our European neighbours start resorting to effective compulsion (not literally holding people down and sticking needles into them, but making their lives very difficult indeed without vaccine certification,) there may be considerable pressure to follow here as well.
If we end up with another round of Draconian restrictions, and the mass of the people successfully deduce that they're being imposed to resolve a problem caused by the wilfully unvaccinated, the public mood is unlikely to be especially forgiving of them. Drastic measures, such as those apparently being contemplated in Italy, might then be put on the table.
i can tell you are getting excited just thinking about it. It seems with you pigeon rationality has left the building...and you seem particularly insensitive to ethnic minorities
So @BBCNews has decided that the expert witness they need on the Maxwell trial is Alan Dershowitz. Who has taken the opportunity to say that it shows how accusations against him and Prince Andrew are wrong.
Alan Dershowitz is another example of someone who used to seem sane and sensible. Then, in the era of Trump, become/revelaved to be a weird, demented parody of the earlier version.
See Rudy Giuliani et al...
And about a quarter of all Americans
In a way. But a number of the victims of this syndrome once seemed educated, intelligent etc. Trumpism seems to have caused their brains to decay or something.
Intelligence is no antidote to madness, and nor is it reliably destroyed by madness. They can exist side by side, the Dr Jekyll showing himself when the Mr Hyde sleeps.
Indeed. But watching these people turning into dribbling, weird, devolved parodies of their former selves.....
This is a consequence of trying to force people in to getting vaccinated. You can get some people to comply, but then it hardens the views of a another small minority who become consumed by conspiracy theories like these people.
No, it’s not. The anti vaxxers have been full on conspiracy nonsense for a long, long time.
fact is mate tryingvto force people to be vaxxed just feeds conspiracies. 90 percent vaxxed remember when it was enough to vaccinate the vulnerable...maybe you dont
What rot. It was never 'enough' to vaccinate the vulnerable - please show some evidence that it was; it was always the case that the vulnerable were rightly vaccinated first.
No. But on the flipside we were told so many times in the original 2 jab rollout that vaccine uptake was much better than public health and government ever expected it to be, indeed, "wildly so", I think was the standard phrase. So on the other hand to complain about the percentage of unvaccinated is - in that context - a bit strange.
There's nothing wrong with striving for even more, but there's a pretty natural ceiling, unless you get much more drastic than vaccine passports to get into a football match or nightclub.
But, nonetheless, if we start to have really serious problems with hospital critical care capacity getting bunged up with people who have refused the vaccines, and our European neighbours start resorting to effective compulsion (not literally holding people down and sticking needles into them, but making their lives very difficult indeed without vaccine certification,) there may be considerable pressure to follow here as well.
If we end up with another round of Draconian restrictions, and the mass of the people successfully deduce that they're being imposed to resolve a problem caused by the wilfully unvaccinated, the public mood is unlikely to be especially forgiving of them. Drastic measures, such as those apparently being contemplated in Italy, might then be put on the table.
Essentially that's why I asked earlier tonight what relative protection someone getting jab 1 tomorrow would have versus someone getting jab 3. Is it too late for the anti-vaxxers anyway essentially because they would need the time to get all 3 jabs done, or is the recency of the booster the driving benefit rather than the fact it's the third dose?
"Sam Merriman @smrmerriman @BBCNews has on to provide ‘analysis’ following the Ghislaine Maxwell verdict is Alan Dershowitz - who is himself accused of abusing one of Epstein’s alleged victims.
He then used the entire ‘interview’ to attack his accuser. Appalling stuff."
Comments
eg https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/overarching-guides/magistrates-court/item/totality/
https://twitter.com/sarahchurchwell/status/1476319449447907344
When news about Omicron broke the isolation period was introduced for all even the vaccinated, but that was swiftly reversed by the Government who brought back the rule that the vaccinated didn't need to isolate.
That message seems out of date.
No, no and thrice no thank you.
I wonder how many weeks we'll make it into January before the entire testing and isolation system simply collapses? If there are enough workers in vital occupations being forced to isolate at the same time then the requirements will have to be relaxed or scrapped anyway, let alone if tests that permit early release cannot be found for love nor money.
Exceptionally crap point, actually, what the Holy fuck is "reclaiming our own health" meant to mean? Please elucidate. Does it work better than the polio vaccine against polio, for instance?
Blocking the UK, when Belgium had had case rates twice as high as our peak at that point for weeks was the action of a kneejerking numpty.
Two tests was thought to be sufficient for general testing by the public. Every day pushes the required tests up by 250%, if politicians are giving out such advice it needs to be backed up by evidence that it is necessary.
For a period, under the Coalition, they changed the rules on bail. If you were out on bail for one offence and committed another offence, then you went on remand. This warehoused a lot of the habituals and the crime rate fell.
Side effects + travel time/time off work make it borderline at the very least.
I had my home broken into while I was in bed and I chased the burglar out of the house catching his reg-plate as he drove off. He'd broken in via damaging a window in the kitchen and left muddy boot prints which the CSI said were as good as fingerprints. He was caught red-handed the next week in another home and confessed to my break-in, the one he was caught in, and 18 others. Had many prior convictions for burglary and had only just been released from prison a few months before breaking into my home. Was sentenced to . . . a suspended jail sentence. Farcical!
I'm willing to hazard a guess if I tracked down the magistrates home and broken into that and was caught red-handed I'd have got more than a suspended sentence for that.
We only knew it was on when we discovered the market was closed to the general public as I wanted to see what shoes Scorpio shoes had.
See Rudy Giuliani et al...
https://twitter.com/foxinsoxuk/status/1475827926235062277?t=hQ_oTpr7ELMisEdAnwUkPQ&s=19
hotCold broth piped up their arseholes...Is that a good look, or a bad one?
There's nothing wrong with striving for even more, but there's a pretty natural ceiling, unless you get much more drastic than vaccine passports to get into a football match or nightclub.
I'm headed to Toon tomorrow for the first time in over 3 weeks.
Whatever will I do?
Black people in particular are right to be suspicious of government healthcare given atrocities in the past. But a line has to be drawn somewhere.
Like their fellow idiots who stormed the capitol building they are daft enough to show their faces, so hit them through the courts of our democratic society.
And then everyone on the bus cheered afterwards too I bet!
I had them down as Brexity UKIP types. I freely admit that's my bias, I have no evidence.
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Btw, just to help you. All those posters on here going along with your 'racist' theme are most assuredly not racist but are in fact winding you up.
My advice is to drink more.
Errr... PB may be down temporarily, as I've just realised that I haven't renewed our SSL certificate and it expires in... 58 minutes...
Sorry for any inconvenience.
If we end up with another round of Draconian restrictions, and the mass of the people successfully deduce that they're being imposed to resolve a problem caused by the wilfully unvaccinated, the public mood is unlikely to be especially forgiving of them. Drastic measures, such as those apparently being contemplated in Italy, might then be put on the table.
They can exist side by side, the Dr Jekyll showing himself when the Mr Hyde sleeps.
Oh...
But that's not what it looks like in this case. He seems to be violating Schengen.
Which is about Macron not even being able to get this right.
If you are from the right parts of the matrix, you have the right to be a dribbling racist loon. If you aren't, you don't.
Well, I never.
@smrmerriman
@BBCNews has on to provide ‘analysis’ following the Ghislaine Maxwell verdict is Alan Dershowitz - who is himself accused of abusing one of Epstein’s alleged victims.
He then used the entire ‘interview’ to attack his accuser. Appalling stuff."
https://twitter.com/smrmerriman/status/1476323078867197952