Some more fag packet epidemiology. Very very rough but bear with me
Omicron is maybe half as severe?
It puts 1/3 of SA cases in hospital as against 2/3 for Delta - Daily Mail and others (today)
But it is 4-5 times as transmissible, via natural R and breakthrough infectivity (Japan, SA: academics)
Half as bad but four times as infectious? We are still in trouble
I wonder if there are any free spots on SAGE coming up? Not sure they have a post 2 bottles of wine, rough fag packet epidemiologist as part of their team yet?
You know what? They probably need someone just like that
I'm not suggesting me, but they do need someone with an open mind and a questioning nature. We are allowing ourselves to be be governed by myopic nerds, half of them communists
Some more fag packet epidemiology. Very very rough but bear with me
Omicron is maybe half as severe?
It puts 1/3 of SA cases in hospital as against 2/3 for Delta - Daily Mail and others (today)
But it is 4-5 times as transmissible, via natural R and breakthrough infectivity (Japan, SA: academics)
Half as bad but four times as infectious? We are still in trouble
I wonder if there are any free spots on SAGE coming up? Not sure they have a post 2 bottles of wine, rough fag packet epidemiologist as part of their team yet?
Delicious oysters today in Highgate, but my fellow luncher was in undeniably clouded spirits. This new lockdown-lite is REALLY hitting people
One of the unspoken horrors is the loss of December as a festive period. He and I compared notes about cancelled parties/dinners/drinks - we had the same story
He said he was clinging on to his one last party left, that was usually his favourite of the year, a rich friend in Crouch End who "always throws great parties", and "sends everyone home singing".
My friend said "He won't cancel that, he never does"
As I walked home through an unusually quiet Highgate I got a text message. "He just cancelled it"
The loss of ANOTHER Christmas is fucking awful. December is what makes the British winter just about bearable. And by Christmas I mean all the happy socialising that goes before December 25th, not the boring day itself, which many can take or leave
Yeah yeah. All my Christmas parties off. Cos I've got COVID. Think yourself lucky, mate.
Tested positive now?
LFT yesterday. On the day of my planned booster. Sent off the PCR 2 hours ago. The permitted walk to the Post Office was the highlight of my past 48 hours.
Some more fag packet epidemiology. Very very rough but bear with me
Omicron is maybe half as severe?
It puts 1/3 of SA cases in hospital as against 2/3 for Delta - Daily Mail and others (today)
But it is 4-5 times as transmissible, via natural R and breakthrough infectivity (Japan, SA: academics)
Half as bad but four times as infectious? We are still in trouble
I wonder if there are any free spots on SAGE coming up? Not sure they have a post 2 bottles of wine, rough fag packet epidemiologist as part of their team yet?
Only a dozen or so.
What is Cristina Pagel exactly? I know Michie is a pseudoscientific certifiable loon child psychologist but I know nothing about her fellow rough fag packet epidemiologist.
They can manoeuvre all they want but unless they have objective polling data showing a Tory party led by them well ahead of Starmer Labour they won't get anywhere
You and I do not agree on a lot of things , but you are to be credited with your last person standing tribute for Boris
I am politically homeless for the first time in near 60 years, but I simply want a conservative leader with integrity and ability and Boris is not that person
Time for his mps to be kind and invite Boris to move on and if he refuses act accordingly
We might get a conservative government for the first time in 23 years.
They can manoeuvre all they want but unless they have objective polling data showing a Tory party led by them well ahead of Starmer Labour they won't get anywhere
You and I do not agree on a lot of things , but you are to be credited with your last person standing tribute for Boris
I am politically homeless for the first time in near 60 years, but I simply want a conservative leader with integrity and ability and Boris is not that person
Time for his mps to be kind and invite Boris to move on and if he refuses act accordingly
We might get a conservative government for the first time in 23 years.
That's an optimistic assessment. Major couldn't conserve the national economy, any part of the public sector or his own party.
Delicious oysters today in Highgate, but my fellow luncher was in undeniably clouded spirits. This new lockdown-lite is REALLY hitting people
One of the unspoken horrors is the loss of December as a festive period. He and I compared notes about cancelled parties/dinners/drinks - we had the same story
He said he was clinging on to his one last party left, that was usually his favourite of the year, a rich friend in Crouch End who "always throws great parties", and "sends everyone home singing".
My friend said "He won't cancel that, he never does"
As I walked home through an unusually quiet Highgate I got a text message. "He just cancelled it"
The loss of ANOTHER Christmas is fucking awful. December is what makes the British winter just about bearable. And by Christmas I mean all the happy socialising that goes before December 25th, not the boring day itself, which many can take or leave
Yeah yeah. All my Christmas parties off. Cos I've got COVID. Think yourself lucky, mate.
Tested positive now?
LFT yesterday. On the day of my planned booster. Sent off the PCR 2 hours ago. The permitted walk to the Post Office was the highlight of my past 48 hours.
Delicious oysters today in Highgate, but my fellow luncher was in undeniably clouded spirits. This new lockdown-lite is REALLY hitting people
One of the unspoken horrors is the loss of December as a festive period. He and I compared notes about cancelled parties/dinners/drinks - we had the same story
He said he was clinging on to his one last party left, that was usually his favourite of the year, a rich friend in Crouch End who "always throws great parties", and "sends everyone home singing".
My friend said "He won't cancel that, he never does"
As I walked home through an unusually quiet Highgate I got a text message. "He just cancelled it"
The loss of ANOTHER Christmas is fucking awful. December is what makes the British winter just about bearable. And by Christmas I mean all the happy socialising that goes before December 25th, not the boring day itself, which many can take or leave
Yeah yeah. All my Christmas parties off. Cos I've got COVID. Think yourself lucky, mate.
Sympathies
BUT the negative mental effect of another cancelled festive season is a very real thing, and really not good. People are sunk into despair. Even my most resilient friends are lamenting, and the already-flaky are in deep shit
Cheers. A kind response to a somewhat churlish post of mine.
Some more fag packet epidemiology. Very very rough but bear with me
Omicron is maybe half as severe?
It puts 1/3 of SA cases in hospital as against 2/3 for Delta - Daily Mail and others (today)
But it is 4-5 times as transmissible, via natural R and breakthrough infectivity (Japan, SA: academics)
Half as bad but four times as infectious? We are still in trouble
I wonder if there are any free spots on SAGE coming up? Not sure they have a post 2 bottles of wine, rough fag packet epidemiologist as part of their team yet?
Only a dozen or so.
What is Cristina Pagel exactly? I know Michie is a pseudoscientific certifiable loon child psychologist but I know nothing about her fellow rough fag packet epidemiologist.
Similar to Professor pantsdown, background in computer programming to support research rather than actual medical expertise.
Delicious oysters today in Highgate, but my fellow luncher was in undeniably clouded spirits. This new lockdown-lite is REALLY hitting people
One of the unspoken horrors is the loss of December as a festive period. He and I compared notes about cancelled parties/dinners/drinks - we had the same story
He said he was clinging on to his one last party left, that was usually his favourite of the year, a rich friend in Crouch End who "always throws great parties", and "sends everyone home singing".
My friend said "He won't cancel that, he never does"
As I walked home through an unusually quiet Highgate I got a text message. "He just cancelled it"
The loss of ANOTHER Christmas is fucking awful. December is what makes the British winter just about bearable. And by Christmas I mean all the happy socialising that goes before December 25th, not the boring day itself, which many can take or leave
I've never been sure Highgate is a real place. I also know someone who yesterday cancelled this year's parties.
I have a bit of do on Saturday that I am now seriously considering cancelling.
I am very low with this shit tonight. How many more winters are going to be like this?
This is the last one.
Unfortunately, you just don't know this. No one does. Unless you are making some fastidious, minuscule argument that "no winter is like any other"
It is quite possible that this virus will keep evolving, forever slightly out of reach. How we react to that is another impalpable mystery
I would so love you to be right, of course
I can’t be certain, but it’s very likely indeed.
I could come up with some scary contra theories, but I can’t be bothered.
Trump’s last Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, has now disclosed a PPT dated 5 Jan that recommends Trump declare a National Security Emergency on Jan 6 and have VP Pence delay and or deny Biden electors on grounds of fraud, foreign interference etc.
Delicious oysters today in Highgate, but my fellow luncher was in undeniably clouded spirits. This new lockdown-lite is REALLY hitting people
One of the unspoken horrors is the loss of December as a festive period. He and I compared notes about cancelled parties/dinners/drinks - we had the same story
He said he was clinging on to his one last party left, that was usually his favourite of the year, a rich friend in Crouch End who "always throws great parties", and "sends everyone home singing".
My friend said "He won't cancel that, he never does"
As I walked home through an unusually quiet Highgate I got a text message. "He just cancelled it"
The loss of ANOTHER Christmas is fucking awful. December is what makes the British winter just about bearable. And by Christmas I mean all the happy socialising that goes before December 25th, not the boring day itself, which many can take or leave
Yeah yeah. All my Christmas parties off. Cos I've got COVID. Think yourself lucky, mate.
Best wishes for a mild illness and speedy recovery.
Thanks. Mild to the point of not really noticeable. Meaning doubly bored. Better not get myself banned or I'll be at a total loss...
I just wonder whether BoJo might just announce that he's quitting as PM so he can get back to doubling his salary by resuming his Telegraph contract.
I do think he probably will throw in the towel though ideally it would be after winning a second majority in 2023.
But if that looks completely off the table I think he might just say he's going to stand down and spend his time with Carrie and the kids... say next summer/autumn (I'm 100% certain he'll try and beat Theresa May's 3 years, 11 days tenure though lol)
If he decides to spend more time with wife and kids it will be a real shock to the system!
Delicious oysters today in Highgate, but my fellow luncher was in undeniably clouded spirits. This new lockdown-lite is REALLY hitting people
One of the unspoken horrors is the loss of December as a festive period. He and I compared notes about cancelled parties/dinners/drinks - we had the same story
He said he was clinging on to his one last party left, that was usually his favourite of the year, a rich friend in Crouch End who "always throws great parties", and "sends everyone home singing".
My friend said "He won't cancel that, he never does"
As I walked home through an unusually quiet Highgate I got a text message. "He just cancelled it"
The loss of ANOTHER Christmas is fucking awful. December is what makes the British winter just about bearable. And by Christmas I mean all the happy socialising that goes before December 25th, not the boring day itself, which many can take or leave
Yeah yeah. All my Christmas parties off. Cos I've got COVID. Think yourself lucky, mate.
Sympathies
BUT the negative mental effect of another cancelled festive season is a very real thing, and really not good. People are sunk into despair. Even my most resilient friends are lamenting, and the already-flaky are in deep shit
Cheers. A kind response to a somewhat churlish post of mine.
You're ill. A certain surliness is forgivable
This could apply to all of us. We are facing the darkest days of the year, and fuck, these ones ARE dark. Perhaps we should cut each other extra 2021 slack. This is a fucking pile of shit
A Nocturnal upon St. Lucy's Day BY JOHN DONNE
'Tis the year's midnight, and it is the day's, Lucy's, who scarce seven hours herself unmasks; The sun is spent, and now his flasks Send forth light squibs, no constant rays; The world's whole sap is sunk; The general balm th' hydroptic earth hath drunk, Whither, as to the bed's feet, life is shrunk, Dead and interr'd; yet all these seem to laugh, Compar'd with me, who am their epitaph......
But I am none; nor will my sun renew. You lovers, for whose sake the lesser sun At this time to the Goat is run To fetch new lust, and give it you, Enjoy your summer all; Since she enjoys her long night's festival, Let me prepare towards her, and let me call This hour her vigil, and her eve, since this Both the year's, and the day's deep midnight is.
Some more fag packet epidemiology. Very very rough but bear with me
Omicron is maybe half as severe?
It puts 1/3 of SA cases in hospital as against 2/3 for Delta - Daily Mail and others (today)
But it is 4-5 times as transmissible, via natural R and breakthrough infectivity (Japan, SA: academics)
Half as bad but four times as infectious? We are still in trouble
I wonder if there are any free spots on SAGE coming up? Not sure they have a post 2 bottles of wine, rough fag packet epidemiologist as part of their team yet?
Only a dozen or so.
@JosiahJessop has several hundred yards of scientists or all sizes & shapes, I believe. Opinions installed as the customer requests...
Some more fag packet epidemiology. Very very rough but bear with me
Omicron is maybe half as severe?
It puts 1/3 of SA cases in hospital as against 2/3 for Delta - Daily Mail and others (today)
But it is 4-5 times as transmissible, via natural R and breakthrough infectivity (Japan, SA: academics)
Half as bad but four times as infectious? We are still in trouble
I wonder if there are any free spots on SAGE coming up? Not sure they have a post 2 bottles of wine, rough fag packet epidemiologist as part of their team yet?
Only a dozen or so.
What is Cristina Pagel exactly? I know Michie is a pseudoscientific certifiable loon child psychologist but I know nothing about her fellow rough fag packet epidemiologist.
Similar to Professor pantsdown, background in computer programming to support research rather than actual medical expertise.
Thanks.
Incidentally this article may interest a few on here:
Particularly delicious is the dry way it notes iSage claimed 100,000 cases a day after Freedom Day (it was just 45,000) and then claimed this was because people hadn't actually changed their behaviour on freedom day...
Some more fag packet epidemiology. Very very rough but bear with me
Omicron is maybe half as severe?
It puts 1/3 of SA cases in hospital as against 2/3 for Delta - Daily Mail and others (today)
But it is 4-5 times as transmissible, via natural R and breakthrough infectivity (Japan, SA: academics)
Half as bad but four times as infectious? We are still in trouble
I wonder if there are any free spots on SAGE coming up? Not sure they have a post 2 bottles of wine, rough fag packet epidemiologist as part of their team yet?
Only a dozen or so.
What is Cristina Pagel exactly? I know Michie is a pseudoscientific certifiable loon child psychologist but I know nothing about her fellow rough fag packet epidemiologist.
Similar to Professor pantsdown, background in computer programming to support research rather than actual medical expertise.
Operational Research.
I endured several lecture courses on OR at university as part of my comp sci degree.
Talk about pulling your own teeth out. Maybe it was the lecturer rather than the subject?
'No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief.' BY GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief, More pangs will, schooled at forepangs, wilder wring. Comforter, where, where is your comforting? Mary, mother of us, where is your relief? My cries heave, herds-long; huddle in a main, a chief Woe, wórld-sorrow; on an áge-old anvil wince and sing — Then lull, then leave off. Fury had shrieked 'No ling- ering! Let me be fell: force I must be brief."'
O the mind, mind has mountains; cliffs of fall Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap May who ne'er hung there. Nor does long our small Durance deal with that steep or deep. Here! creep, Wretch, under a comfort serves in a whirlwind: all Life death does end and each day dies with sleep.
I just wonder whether BoJo might just announce that he's quitting as PM so he can get back to doubling his salary by resuming his Telegraph contract.
I do think he probably will throw in the towel though ideally it would be after winning a second majority in 2023.
But if that looks completely off the table I think he might just say he's going to stand down and spend his time with Carrie and the kids... say next summer/autumn (I'm 100% certain he'll try and beat Theresa May's 3 years, 11 days tenure though lol)
If he decides to spend more time with wife and kids it will be a real shock to the system!
With the spare time maybe he could learn a new skill. Perhaps he could find someone who could teach him to play the violin...
Some more fag packet epidemiology. Very very rough but bear with me
Omicron is maybe half as severe?
It puts 1/3 of SA cases in hospital as against 2/3 for Delta - Daily Mail and others (today)
But it is 4-5 times as transmissible, via natural R and breakthrough infectivity (Japan, SA: academics)
Half as bad but four times as infectious? We are still in trouble
I wonder if there are any free spots on SAGE coming up? Not sure they have a post 2 bottles of wine, rough fag packet epidemiologist as part of their team yet?
Well Jeremy Farrar resigned, so there's at least one spot. And I think Robert Dingwall was on a sub group and he's gone.
'No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief.' BY GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief, More pangs will, schooled at forepangs, wilder wring. Comforter, where, where is your comforting? Mary, mother of us, where is your relief? My cries heave, herds-long; huddle in a main, a chief Woe, wórld-sorrow; on an áge-old anvil wince and sing — Then lull, then leave off. Fury had shrieked 'No ling- ering! Let me be fell: force I must be brief."'
O the mind, mind has mountains; cliffs of fall Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap May who ne'er hung there. Nor does long our small Durance deal with that steep or deep. Here! creep, Wretch, under a comfort serves in a whirlwind: all Life death does end and each day dies with sleep.
Not so comforting.
Could I offer Lear
I eat my peas with honey I've done it all my life It makes the peas taste funny But it keeps them on the knife
If both of these poems had say in the great library at Alexandria and I could have saved just one it would be Lear's.
Delicious oysters today in Highgate, but my fellow luncher was in undeniably clouded spirits. This new lockdown-lite is REALLY hitting people
One of the unspoken horrors is the loss of December as a festive period. He and I compared notes about cancelled parties/dinners/drinks - we had the same story
He said he was clinging on to his one last party left, that was usually his favourite of the year, a rich friend in Crouch End who "always throws great parties", and "sends everyone home singing".
My friend said "He won't cancel that, he never does"
As I walked home through an unusually quiet Highgate I got a text message. "He just cancelled it"
The loss of ANOTHER Christmas is fucking awful. December is what makes the British winter just about bearable. And by Christmas I mean all the happy socialising that goes before December 25th, not the boring day itself, which many can take or leave
I also know someone who yesterday cancelled this year's parties.
Can I thank PT for getting banned? Very kind of him. Now I can catch up with threads in half the time.
Sorry Dixie but I am a little out of touch. What exactly did PT do - some injudicious remark about OGH's hairstyle?
PT got a bit carried away with his theme that people dying was a regrettable necessity to escape from lockdown, and argued that it'd be helpful to the NHS to have fewer elderly people to have to deal with. Looking on the bright side is good, but perhaps that took it too far.
Isam is keen to slag off Starmer at every opportunity and raptured about Boris's superior charisma (hasn't mentioned that so much lately, oddly enough), but that shouldn't be cause of banning.
Best wishes to dixiedean for a speedy recuperation.
Some more fag packet epidemiology. Very very rough but bear with me
Omicron is maybe half as severe?
It puts 1/3 of SA cases in hospital as against 2/3 for Delta - Daily Mail and others (today)
But it is 4-5 times as transmissible, via natural R and breakthrough infectivity (Japan, SA: academics)
Half as bad but four times as infectious? We are still in trouble
I wonder if there are any free spots on SAGE coming up? Not sure they have a post 2 bottles of wine, rough fag packet epidemiologist as part of their team yet?
Only a dozen or so.
What is Cristina Pagel exactly? I know Michie is a pseudoscientific certifiable loon child psychologist but I know nothing about her fellow rough fag packet epidemiologist.
Similar to Professor pantsdown, background in computer programming to support research rather than actual medical expertise.
Operational Research.
I endured several lecture courses on OR at university as part of my comp sci degree.
Talk about pulling your own teeth out. Maybe it was the lecturer rather than the subject?
The lecturer. OR is about the flow of human organisations and why they work the way they do.
This can be a fascinating topic, and illuminates many of the things we discuss here.
'No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief.' BY GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief, More pangs will, schooled at forepangs, wilder wring. Comforter, where, where is your comforting? Mary, mother of us, where is your relief? My cries heave, herds-long; huddle in a main, a chief Woe, wórld-sorrow; on an áge-old anvil wince and sing — Then lull, then leave off. Fury had shrieked 'No ling- ering! Let me be fell: force I must be brief."'
O the mind, mind has mountains; cliffs of fall Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap May who ne'er hung there. Nor does long our small Durance deal with that steep or deep. Here! creep, Wretch, under a comfort serves in a whirlwind: all Life death does end and each day dies with sleep.
Amazing how misreading that by one letter (worse vs worst) completely reverses the meaning
cf Robert Frost
Whose woods these are I think I know His house is in the village though
vs
Whose woods these are I think I know His house is in the Village though
So PT is unbanned? Good. Should never have happened.
Isam is still in the sin bin. When I departed this morning he was defending PT. Hopefully he too will be unbanned soon. Betting is not my thing but his insights into it are worth reading.
'No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief.' BY GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief, More pangs will, schooled at forepangs, wilder wring. Comforter, where, where is your comforting? Mary, mother of us, where is your relief? My cries heave, herds-long; huddle in a main, a chief Woe, wórld-sorrow; on an áge-old anvil wince and sing — Then lull, then leave off. Fury had shrieked 'No ling- ering! Let me be fell: force I must be brief."'
O the mind, mind has mountains; cliffs of fall Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap May who ne'er hung there. Nor does long our small Durance deal with that steep or deep. Here! creep, Wretch, under a comfort serves in a whirlwind: all Life death does end and each day dies with sleep.
Not so comforting.
Could I offer Lear
I eat my peas with honey I've done it all my life It makes the peas taste funny But it keeps them on the knife
If both of these poems had say in the great library at Alexandria and I could have saved just one it would be Lear's.
One can be too gloomy!
No, it must be Hopkins', if only for
"all life death does end, and each day dies with sleep"
So simple, yet so resonant. Immortal. Eleven resounding monosyllables. Pure Anglo Saxonry. Beautiful, and true, and with a jazzy internal rhythm that rushes to its conclusion like a Gene Krupa cymbal riff.
'No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief.' BY GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief, More pangs will, schooled at forepangs, wilder wring. Comforter, where, where is your comforting? Mary, mother of us, where is your relief? My cries heave, herds-long; huddle in a main, a chief Woe, wórld-sorrow; on an áge-old anvil wince and sing — Then lull, then leave off. Fury had shrieked 'No ling- ering! Let me be fell: force I must be brief."'
O the mind, mind has mountains; cliffs of fall Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap May who ne'er hung there. Nor does long our small Durance deal with that steep or deep. Here! creep, Wretch, under a comfort serves in a whirlwind: all Life death does end and each day dies with sleep.
Not so comforting.
Could I offer Lear
I eat my peas with honey I've done it all my life It makes the peas taste funny But it keeps them on the knife
If both of these poems had say in the great library at Alexandria and I could have saved just one it would be Lear's.
One can be too gloomy!
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Can I just ask the mods to please let @Philip_Thompson and @isam back on as soon as possible?
Listen. Understand. The mods are out there. They can't be reasoned with, they can't be bargained with. They don't feel pity or remorse or fear and they absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead.
What happened to both?
First rule of Fight Club is...
(Whispering in your ear, they were banned, for reasons still debated by scholars.)
"Only eighty years ago the Venerable Boedullus had written with obvious delight to his Lord Abbot that his small expedition had uncovered the remains of, in his own words, ‘the site of an intercontinental launching pad, complete with several fascinating subterranean storage tanks.’ No one at the abbey ever knew what the Venerable Boedullus meant by 'intercontinental launching pad,’ but the Lord Abbot who had reigned at that time sternly decreed that monastic antiquarians must, on pain of excommunication, avoid such 'pads’ thenceforth. For his letter to the abbot was the last that anyone ever saw of the Venerable Boedullus, his party, his 'launching pad’ site, and the small village which had grown up over that site; an interesting lake now graced the landscape where the village had been, thanks to some shepherds who diverted the course of a creek and caused it to flow into the crater to store water for their flocks in time of drought. A traveler who had come from that direction about a decade ago reported excellent fishing in that lake, but the shepherds thereabouts regarded the fish as the souls of the departed villagers and excavators; they refused to fish there because of Bo'dollos, the giant catfish that brooded in the deep." a canticle for leibowitz, walter m. miller jr
Sorry a bit late to the party. It has been a busy day.
These are extraordinary times, something of the fin de siecle about them. In the midst of all the chaos, there was an excellent piece this morning by Alister Heath in the Daily Telegraph. Well worth reading:
Can I just ask the mods to please let @Philip_Thompson and @isam back on as soon as possible?
Listen. Understand. The mods are out there. They can't be reasoned with, they can't be bargained with. They don't feel pity or remorse or fear and they absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead.
What happened to both?
First rule of Fight Club is...
(Whispering in your ear, they were banned, for reasons still debated by scholars.)
"Only eighty years ago the Venerable Boedullus had written with obvious delight to his Lord Abbot that his small expedition had uncovered the remains of, in his own words, ‘the site of an intercontinental launching pad, complete with several fascinating subterranean storage tanks.’ No one at the abbey ever knew what the Venerable Boedullus meant by 'intercontinental launching pad,’ but the Lord Abbot who had reigned at that time sternly decreed that monastic antiquarians must, on pain of excommunication, avoid such 'pads’ thenceforth. For his letter to the abbot was the last that anyone ever saw of the Venerable Boedullus, his party, his 'launching pad’ site, and the small village which had grown up over that site; an interesting lake now graced the landscape where the village had been, thanks to some shepherds who diverted the course of a creek and caused it to flow into the crater to store water for their flocks in time of drought. A traveler who had come from that direction about a decade ago reported excellent fishing in that lake, but the shepherds thereabouts regarded the fish as the souls of the departed villagers and excavators; they refused to fish there because of Bo'dollos, the giant catfish that brooded in the deep." a canticle for leibowitz, walter m. miller jr
I love post apocalyptic fiction in general and that book in particular. It's getting from pre apoc to post apoc which is the tricky bit.
Can I just ask the mods to please let @Philip_Thompson and @isam back on as soon as possible?
Listen. Understand. The mods are out there. They can't be reasoned with, they can't be bargained with. They don't feel pity or remorse or fear and they absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead.
What happened to both?
First rule of Fight Club is...
(Whispering in your ear, they were banned, for reasons still debated by scholars.)
"Only eighty years ago the Venerable Boedullus had written with obvious delight to his Lord Abbot that his small expedition had uncovered the remains of, in his own words, ‘the site of an intercontinental launching pad, complete with several fascinating subterranean storage tanks.’ No one at the abbey ever knew what the Venerable Boedullus meant by 'intercontinental launching pad,’ but the Lord Abbot who had reigned at that time sternly decreed that monastic antiquarians must, on pain of excommunication, avoid such 'pads’ thenceforth. For his letter to the abbot was the last that anyone ever saw of the Venerable Boedullus, his party, his 'launching pad’ site, and the small village which had grown up over that site; an interesting lake now graced the landscape where the village had been, thanks to some shepherds who diverted the course of a creek and caused it to flow into the crater to store water for their flocks in time of drought. A traveler who had come from that direction about a decade ago reported excellent fishing in that lake, but the shepherds thereabouts regarded the fish as the souls of the departed villagers and excavators; they refused to fish there because of Bo'dollos, the giant catfish that brooded in the deep." a canticle for leibowitz, walter m. miller jr
I love post apocalyptic fiction in general and that book in particular. It's getting from pre apoc to post apoc which is the tricky bit.
Indeed. The sequel isn't bad but somehow not so good.
Some more fag packet epidemiology. Very very rough but bear with me
Omicron is maybe half as severe?
It puts 1/3 of SA cases in hospital as against 2/3 for Delta - Daily Mail and others (today)
But it is 4-5 times as transmissible, via natural R and breakthrough infectivity (Japan, SA: academics)
Half as bad but four times as infectious? We are still in trouble
That severity reduction is for cases in South Africa, where most people are unvaccinated and relying on immunity from prior infection alone. We should see much lower severity of infection here, where so much of the population is double-dosed, and a growing proportion triple-dosed. I think we're going to be okay.
Can I thank PT for getting banned? Very kind of him. Now I can catch up with threads in half the time.
Sorry Dixie but I am a little out of touch. What exactly did PT do - some injudicious remark about OGH's hairstyle?
PT got a bit carried away with his theme that people dying was a regrettable necessity to escape from lockdown, and argued that it'd be helpful to the NHS to have fewer elderly people to have to deal with. Looking on the bright side is good, but perhaps that took it too far.
Isam is keen to slag off Starmer at every opportunity and raptured about Boris's superior charisma (hasn't mentioned that so much lately, oddly enough), but that shouldn't be cause of banning.
Best wishes to dixiedean for a speedy recuperation.
This isn't correct - PT was banned for a separate argument this morning relating to the facts surrounding Johnson's victory over Livingstone in the 2008 London Mayoral election. iSam was banned in the afternoon, after implicitly criticising the decision, having spent the morning defending PT.
Can I thank PT for getting banned? Very kind of him. Now I can catch up with threads in half the time.
Sorry Dixie but I am a little out of touch. What exactly did PT do - some injudicious remark about OGH's hairstyle?
PT got a bit carried away with his theme that people dying was a regrettable necessity to escape from lockdown, and argued that it'd be helpful to the NHS to have fewer elderly people to have to deal with. Looking on the bright side is good, but perhaps that took it too far.
Isam is keen to slag off Starmer at every opportunity and raptured about Boris's superior charisma (hasn't mentioned that so much lately, oddly enough), but that shouldn't be cause of banning.
Best wishes to dixiedean for a speedy recuperation.
Thanks Nick. Agree with the above re our other posters. 2 who often have me rather irate. And on other topics nodding in agreement.
'No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief.' BY GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief, More pangs will, schooled at forepangs, wilder wring. Comforter, where, where is your comforting? Mary, mother of us, where is your relief? My cries heave, herds-long; huddle in a main, a chief Woe, wórld-sorrow; on an áge-old anvil wince and sing — Then lull, then leave off. Fury had shrieked 'No ling- ering! Let me be fell: force I must be brief."'
O the mind, mind has mountains; cliffs of fall Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap May who ne'er hung there. Nor does long our small Durance deal with that steep or deep. Here! creep, Wretch, under a comfort serves in a whirlwind: all Life death does end and each day dies with sleep.
Not so comforting.
Could I offer Lear
I eat my peas with honey I've done it all my life It makes the peas taste funny But it keeps them on the knife
Just tell Vlad from us he's a lying murdering incompetent drunken whoreson who couldn't run a fecking whelk stall. He can't even manage a simple murder in Salisbury without cocking the whole thing up. In light of that he'd be well advised to stay out of Ukraine.
Just tell Vlad from us he's a lying murdering incompetent drunken whoreson who couldn't run a fecking whelk stall. He can't even manage a simple murder in Salisbury without cocking the whole thing up. In light of that he'd be well advised to stay out of Ukraine.
not responding to facts i see....you know a guy was murdered in germany for coming out with findings about the vax
also a guy was on GB News tonite with Farage stating the vaccines are unsafe
They are bloody lethal. Pilots dropping like flies.
I think we've seen you before haven't we? If not, welcome, but I think you are wasting your time
In a way it's quite flattering that the FSB think PB and its denizens are sufficiently important to try this bullshit out on repeatedly.
It's somewhat less flattering they think we will believe it, but then like many very stupid people they may not realise how transparent their lies are.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson's most senior spin doctor Jack Doyle made thank you speech and handed out awards at Downing Street Christmas party on December 18, @itvnews has been told.
It's tending towards being over for Boris I think, but not for the Tories. I should think there are a few million generally Tory voters who would say something else to a pollster today, out of anger and fed up ness and perhaps an awareness that the way to get rid of Boris is for the polls to be bad. But they are expressing an opinion about a share price today in an untradeable share, not what that price will be at a GE.
Another matter is that the likelihood of the current crop of ministers/cabinet having some baggage attached to them like attending non legal gatherings a year ago is overwhelmingly immense. And we now know what damage that will do.
Tories will do well to start looking outside the current charmed circle. They may not be charmed for much longer.
Just tell Vlad from us he's a lying murdering incompetent drunken whoreson who couldn't run a fecking whelk stall. He can't even manage a simple murder in Salisbury without cocking the whole thing up. In light of that he'd be well advised to stay out of Ukraine.
not responding to facts i see....you know a guy was murdered in germany for coming out with findings about the vax
Facts do matter, that's why we're ignoring you and your lies and falsified statistics you drunken little Nazi wanker. Honestly, you are so stupid even Cummings or Goebbels would blink at you.
Please do pass on my message to Vlad. He'd be welcome to come and get it personally but I know he's too cowardly to.
'No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief.' BY GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief, More pangs will, schooled at forepangs, wilder wring. Comforter, where, where is your comforting? Mary, mother of us, where is your relief? My cries heave, herds-long; huddle in a main, a chief Woe, wórld-sorrow; on an áge-old anvil wince and sing — Then lull, then leave off. Fury had shrieked 'No ling- ering! Let me be fell: force I must be brief."'
O the mind, mind has mountains; cliffs of fall Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap May who ne'er hung there. Nor does long our small Durance deal with that steep or deep. Here! creep, Wretch, under a comfort serves in a whirlwind: all Life death does end and each day dies with sleep.
Not so comforting.
Could I offer Lear
I eat my peas with honey I've done it all my life It makes the peas taste funny But it keeps them on the knife
Shakespeare was a versatile fellow.
Ah the real greats do gloom in a way you want to read. I think Bleak House is my favourite novel for example. I could quite easily see myself reading it to cheer up!
Just tell Vlad from us he's a lying murdering incompetent drunken whoreson who couldn't run a fecking whelk stall. He can't even manage a simple murder in Salisbury without cocking the whole thing up. In light of that he'd be well advised to stay out of Ukraine.
not responding to facts i see....you know a guy was murdered in germany for coming out with findings about the vax
Facts do matter, that's why we're ignoring you and your lies and falsified statistics you drunken little Nazi wanker. Honestly, you are so stupid even Cummings or Goebbels would blink at you.
Please do pass on my message to Vlad. He'd be welcome to come and get it personally but I know he's too cowardly to.
no facts just abuse my good friend...do you perhaps think you were mistaken to take the dodgy vaxx
'No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief.' BY GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief, More pangs will, schooled at forepangs, wilder wring. Comforter, where, where is your comforting? Mary, mother of us, where is your relief? My cries heave, herds-long; huddle in a main, a chief Woe, wórld-sorrow; on an áge-old anvil wince and sing — Then lull, then leave off. Fury had shrieked 'No ling- ering! Let me be fell: force I must be brief."'
O the mind, mind has mountains; cliffs of fall Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap May who ne'er hung there. Nor does long our small Durance deal with that steep or deep. Here! creep, Wretch, under a comfort serves in a whirlwind: all Life death does end and each day dies with sleep.
Not so comforting.
Could I offer Lear
I eat my peas with honey I've done it all my life It makes the peas taste funny But it keeps them on the knife
Shakespeare was a versatile fellow.
Ah the real greats do gloom in a way you want to read. I think Bleak House is my favourite novel for example. I could quite easily see myself reading it to cheer up!
I read that novel after the death of a dear relative and while trying to sort out her unexpectedly complicated probate and estate!
Just tell Vlad from us he's a lying murdering incompetent drunken whoreson who couldn't run a fecking whelk stall. He can't even manage a simple murder in Salisbury without cocking the whole thing up. In light of that he'd be well advised to stay out of Ukraine.
not responding to facts i see....you know a guy was murdered in germany for coming out with findings about the vax
I was wondering about getting a Vax. One of the miniature ones. But the reviews on Amazon suggest that a Bissell Spot Clean might be better. Can you help?
Just tell Vlad from us he's a lying murdering incompetent drunken whoreson who couldn't run a fecking whelk stall. He can't even manage a simple murder in Salisbury without cocking the whole thing up. In light of that he'd be well advised to stay out of Ukraine.
not responding to facts i see....you know a guy was murdered in germany for coming out with findings about the vax
Facts do matter, that's why we're ignoring you and your lies and falsified statistics you drunken little Nazi wanker. Honestly, you are so stupid even Cummings or Goebbels would blink at you.
Please do pass on my message to Vlad. He'd be welcome to come and get it personally but I know he's too cowardly to.
no facts just abuse my good friend...do you perhaps think you were mistaken to take the dodgy vaxx
Irony died.
Honestly, the low grade of the FSB these days.
Edit - incidentally, don't call me your good friend. I don't befriend murderers, or loathsome Nazi scum who falsify data and abuse people for pointing out their lies.
Just tell Vlad from us he's a lying murdering incompetent drunken whoreson who couldn't run a fecking whelk stall. He can't even manage a simple murder in Salisbury without cocking the whole thing up. In light of that he'd be well advised to stay out of Ukraine.
not responding to facts i see....you know a guy was murdered in germany for coming out with findings about the vax
I was wondering about getting a Vax. One of the miniature ones. But the reviews on Amazon suggest that a Bissell Spot Clean might be better. Can you help?
denial is a river in egypt mate...you may have poison runnin through your veins
'No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief.' BY GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief, More pangs will, schooled at forepangs, wilder wring. Comforter, where, where is your comforting? Mary, mother of us, where is your relief? My cries heave, herds-long; huddle in a main, a chief Woe, wórld-sorrow; on an áge-old anvil wince and sing — Then lull, then leave off. Fury had shrieked 'No ling- ering! Let me be fell: force I must be brief."'
O the mind, mind has mountains; cliffs of fall Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap May who ne'er hung there. Nor does long our small Durance deal with that steep or deep. Here! creep, Wretch, under a comfort serves in a whirlwind: all Life death does end and each day dies with sleep.
Not so comforting.
Could I offer Lear
I eat my peas with honey I've done it all my life It makes the peas taste funny But it keeps them on the knife
Shakespeare was a versatile fellow.
Ah the real greats do gloom in a way you want to read. I think Bleak House is my favourite novel for example. I could quite easily see myself reading it to cheer up!
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I'm not suggesting me, but they do need someone with an open mind and a questioning nature. We are allowing ourselves to be be governed by myopic nerds, half of them communists
pseudoscientific certifiable loonchild psychologist but I know nothing about her fellow rough fag packet epidemiologist.Anyway the guy that'll be pushing for strong measures is Javid - just because he can't take a risk otherwise.
I could come up with some scary contra theories, but I can’t be bothered.
https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1468989737490911232?s=21
Meaning doubly bored. Better not get myself banned or I'll be at a total loss...
ISAM is another I enjoy despite disagreeing with him often.
What on earth did they do?
This could apply to all of us. We are facing the darkest days of the year, and fuck, these ones ARE dark. Perhaps we should cut each other extra 2021 slack. This is a fucking pile of shit
A Nocturnal upon St. Lucy's Day
BY JOHN DONNE
'Tis the year's midnight, and it is the day's,
Lucy's, who scarce seven hours herself unmasks;
The sun is spent, and now his flasks
Send forth light squibs, no constant rays;
The world's whole sap is sunk;
The general balm th' hydroptic earth hath drunk,
Whither, as to the bed's feet, life is shrunk,
Dead and interr'd; yet all these seem to laugh,
Compar'd with me, who am their epitaph......
But I am none; nor will my sun renew.
You lovers, for whose sake the lesser sun
At this time to the Goat is run
To fetch new lust, and give it you,
Enjoy your summer all;
Since she enjoys her long night's festival,
Let me prepare towards her, and let me call
This hour her vigil, and her eve, since this
Both the year's, and the day's deep midnight is.
if it was something V bad I would not what to defend that, but that doe snot seem like them.
Also it would be good to know so se all know what the limit is.
Incidentally this article may interest a few on here:
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2504
Particularly delicious is the dry way it notes iSage claimed 100,000 cases a day after Freedom Day (it was just 45,000) and then claimed this was because people hadn't actually changed their behaviour on freedom day...
So all isolating over Christmas...lovely jubbly...
Landslide versus train:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1468996464428920833
I endured several lecture courses on OR at university as part of my comp sci degree.
Talk about pulling your own teeth out. Maybe it was the lecturer rather than the subject?
No idea about Isam. I thought he'd generally been a lot less controversial on this most recent go-round?
Something more consoling:
'No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief.'
BY GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
No worst, there is none. Pitched past pitch of grief,
More pangs will, schooled at forepangs, wilder wring.
Comforter, where, where is your comforting?
Mary, mother of us, where is your relief?
My cries heave, herds-long; huddle in a main, a chief
Woe, wórld-sorrow; on an áge-old anvil wince and sing —
Then lull, then leave off. Fury had shrieked 'No ling-
ering! Let me be fell: force I must be brief."'
O the mind, mind has mountains; cliffs of fall
Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap
May who ne'er hung there. Nor does long our small
Durance deal with that steep or deep. Here! creep,
Wretch, under a comfort serves in a whirlwind: all
Life death does end and each day dies with sleep.
Could I offer Lear
I eat my peas with honey
I've done it all my life
It makes the peas taste funny
But it keeps them on the knife
If both of these poems had say in the great library at Alexandria and I could have saved just one it would be Lear's.
One can be too gloomy!
Hopefully you've got a bit of garden or even better to enjoy out-of-doors?
Isam is keen to slag off Starmer at every opportunity and raptured about Boris's superior charisma (hasn't mentioned that so much lately, oddly enough), but that shouldn't be cause of banning.
Best wishes to dixiedean for a speedy recuperation.
I have another next week which AFAIK is still on. Looking forward to that, but I guess I’ll only know if people are going to turn up on the day of.
This can be a fascinating topic, and illuminates many of the things we discuss here.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/dec/09/charity-regulator-should-keep-out-of-woke-debates-says-prospective-chair
cf Robert Frost
Whose woods these are I think I know
His house is in the village though
vs
Whose woods these are I think I know
His house is in the Village though
(New York joke)
"all life death does end, and each day dies with sleep"
So simple, yet so resonant. Immortal. Eleven resounding monosyllables. Pure Anglo Saxonry. Beautiful, and true, and with a jazzy internal rhythm that rushes to its conclusion like a Gene Krupa cymbal riff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHr4XQ9SEcg
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
a canticle for leibowitz, walter m. miller jr
These are extraordinary times, something of the fin de siecle about them. In the midst of all the chaos, there was an excellent piece this morning by Alister Heath in the Daily Telegraph. Well worth reading:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/08/boris-johnson-may-not-recover-double-covid-catastrophe/
Is this the same Number 10 spokesman who denied all last week there had been any party?
The cheese was generally on cocktail sticks and accompanied by pineapple. The wine generally poor.
However if you are going to drink poor wine and mess about unforgiveably with cheese it's probably the best you'll get.
https://twitter.com/mcm_ct/status/1468992211798872069?s=20
Agree with the above re our other posters. 2 who often have me rather irate.
And on other topics nodding in agreement.
Something inappropriate with pineapple that doesn't involve pizza?
Perhaps I'll have my own little "cheese and wine" for one over Christmas!
Just tell Vlad from us he's a lying murdering incompetent drunken whoreson who couldn't run a fecking whelk stall. He can't even manage a simple murder in Salisbury without cocking the whole thing up. In light of that he'd be well advised to stay out of Ukraine.
https://www.eatthis.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/06/pineapple-cheese-hedgehog.jpg?resize=640,468&quality=82&strip=all
I think we've seen you before haven't we? If not, welcome, but I think you are wasting your time
Up the Leavers!
It's somewhat less flattering they think we will believe it, but then like many very stupid people they may not realise how transparent their lies are.
Another matter is that the likelihood of the current crop of ministers/cabinet having some baggage attached to them like attending non legal gatherings a year ago is overwhelmingly immense. And we now know what damage that will do.
Tories will do well to start looking outside the current charmed circle. They may not be charmed for much longer.
Please do pass on my message to Vlad. He'd be welcome to come and get it personally but I know he's too cowardly to.
And what it makes you think is, hopeless trolling wankaaaaaah.
Honestly, the low grade of the FSB these days.
Edit - incidentally, don't call me your good friend. I don't befriend murderers, or loathsome Nazi scum who falsify data and abuse people for pointing out their lies.