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  • YBarddCwscYBarddCwsc Posts: 7,172

    HYUFD said:

    GIN1138 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Starmer gaffe. He just insults the most popular children's TV character of the decade's theme park in the way only a North London intellectual snob could.

    “I have been to Peppa Pig World, of course I have. It’s dreadful.” Keir Starmer

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1467065497304903683?s=20

    LOL! He wasn't prepared to say that only women have a cervix but doesn't mind launching a completely unwarranted attack on poor Peppa Pig.

    The general election campaign with SKS is going to be fun... ;)
    Whatever you think of Blair or even Corbyn, neither of them would have made that gaffe. Boris certainly wouldn't have done, they would instinctively have realised it would make them seem aloof and out of touch.

    Starmer may now try and say he was only insulting the theme park not Peppa Pig herself but the damage has been done.

    He has made efforts to move Labour back to the centre and is able to use his legal skills to interrogate Boris at PMQs but he still lacks charisma and the common touch.

    Looks like they don't like 'ordinary people's' entertainment at the Islington dinner parties.

    Keir continues to show he is out of touch with the general public.
    Of course, no top politician is like "ordinary people".

    The trick is some can really fake it.

    Boris is just a much better faker than SKS. Though not in the master class of Ronald Reagan or Tony Blair, natch
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,855

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Er, something not a million miles removed already done by the Scottish LD leader, though not involving him directly:

    https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/status/718400480548941825?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^718400480548941825|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://d-840819422058284117.ampproject.net/2111152338002/frame.html
  • HYUFD said:

    GIN1138 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Starmer gaffe. He just insults the most popular children's TV character of the decade's theme park in the way only a North London intellectual snob could.

    “I have been to Peppa Pig World, of course I have. It’s dreadful.” Keir Starmer

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1467065497304903683?s=20

    LOL! He wasn't prepared to say that only women have a cervix but doesn't mind launching a completely unwarranted attack on poor Peppa Pig.

    The general election campaign with SKS is going to be fun... ;)
    Whatever you think of Blair or even Corbyn, neither of them would have made that gaffe. Boris certainly wouldn't have done, they would instinctively have realised it would make them seem aloof and out of touch.

    Starmer may now try and say he was only insulting the theme park not Peppa Pig herself but the damage has been done.

    He has made efforts to move Labour back to the centre and is able to use his legal skills to interrogate Boris at PMQs but he still lacks charisma and the common touch.

    Looks like they don't like 'ordinary people's' entertainment at the Islington dinner parties.

    Keir continues to show he is out of touch with the general public.
    Shoulda gone to Eton.
    If Peppa Pig World is only for the chavs Sir Keir should be wooing, then what was Boris doing there? Or could it be that Boris wouldn't really be seen dead at a place like that and was use simply ingratiating himself with the oiks?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,508

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
  • HYUFD said:

    I would presume that the some of the stuff that Macron has done to please the hard right - hijab bans etc - hasn't gone down well with Starmer.
    Macron was elected as a classical liberal but is becoming increasingly French nationalist to see off Le Pen and Zemmour.

    Starmer was and is a social democrat, neither a classical liberal nor a nationalist, if he was French he would be supporting Hidalgo as the Socialist Party candidate next year, not Macron and En Marche
    I think it's interesting because some Labour MPs such as Stephen Kinnock have been waxing lyrical about Macron, or at least were in 2017.
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  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,121

    Is this the Graphene Age?

    Tha age of molecular engineering (along with a lot of other stuff).

    HYUFD said:

    GIN1138 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Starmer gaffe. He just insults the most popular children's TV character of the decade's theme park in the way only a North London intellectual snob could.

    “I have been to Peppa Pig World, of course I have. It’s dreadful.” Keir Starmer

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1467065497304903683?s=20

    LOL! He wasn't prepared to say that only women have a cervix but doesn't mind launching a completely unwarranted attack on poor Peppa Pig.

    The general election campaign with SKS is going to be fun... ;)
    Whatever you think of Blair or even Corbyn, neither of them would have made that gaffe. Boris certainly wouldn't have done, they would instinctively have realised it would make them seem aloof and out of touch.

    Starmer may now try and say he was only insulting the theme park not Peppa Pig herself but the damage has been done.

    He has made efforts to move Labour back to the centre and is able to use his legal skills to interrogate Boris at PMQs but he still lacks charisma and the common touch.

    “ Starmer may now try and say he was only insulting the theme park not Peppa Pig herself but the damage has been done.”

    Compared to Every screw up the government has done in the last few months, is this all you got now? 🤷‍♀️
    LOL
    So Peppa Pig world is a massive rip-off. The PM enjoyed it, the LOTO recognised it for what it was.
    Our PM is profligate with money, the LOTO is prudent.
    The real difference is that Boris is an accomplished liar.
  • I think Sir Keir has played a blinder with Peppa Pig World. Let's face it: all the parents would have found it a hellish experience - expensive, tedious and stressful - and will be nodding in agreement. Sir Keir has tapped into a hitherto unacknowledged truth of parenthood. And kids don't vote.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,508
    Carnyx said:

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Er, something not a million miles removed already done by the Scottish LD leader, though not involving him directly:

    https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/status/718400480548941825?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^718400480548941825|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://d-840819422058284117.ampproject.net/2111152338002/frame.html
    So much of politics is in the metaphor. And this truly sent the message. On repeated playing you can almost hear a little excited squealing.

    Or is that sound HY still enjoying Starmer’s gaff 😆
  • India are batting again.

    2 day game probably not good for the BCCI
    Gives Patel a chance to get 20 wickets.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,209

    Is it antivaxxer hour again on PB?

    Worse than that - Peppa Pigate is kicking off. 🐖

    I’m off to make spicy chicken and lemon pizza.
    Would it be overly callous to talk about cooking the pulled pork?

    So right. Avoid pork today. 😆

    But seriously, HYUFD isn’t being serious (surely) but it is a gaff, because it’s not true. Peppa Pig World is one of the most popular theme parks around, a favourite with children for sure.

    I don’t have kids, but those friends have them aren’t sure Peppa Pig is a good role model. One of my friends is convinced it’s teaching his daughter to rebel, that it’s subconsciously teaching kids anarchism and anti authority. That’s the opposite of what Boris said. Is it Boris has missed something?

    there’s science to pizza topping. Spicy Chicken needs some counterbalances and I have half a lemon left over from yesterday I can squeeze over the top.
    Does anyone have a Spit Roast Pig Recipe? With Pepper?
  • HYUFD said:

    GIN1138 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Starmer gaffe. He just insults the most popular children's TV character of the decade's theme park in the way only a North London intellectual snob could.

    “I have been to Peppa Pig World, of course I have. It’s dreadful.” Keir Starmer

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1467065497304903683?s=20

    LOL! He wasn't prepared to say that only women have a cervix but doesn't mind launching a completely unwarranted attack on poor Peppa Pig.

    The general election campaign with SKS is going to be fun... ;)
    Whatever you think of Blair or even Corbyn, neither of them would have made that gaffe. Boris certainly wouldn't have done, they would instinctively have realised it would make them seem aloof and out of touch.

    Starmer may now try and say he was only insulting the theme park not Peppa Pig herself but the damage has been done.

    He has made efforts to move Labour back to the centre and is able to use his legal skills to interrogate Boris at PMQs but he still lacks charisma and the common touch.

    Looks like they don't like 'ordinary people's' entertainment at the Islington dinner parties.

    Keir continues to show he is out of touch with the general public.
    Shoulda gone to Eton.
    If Peppa Pig World is only for the chavs Sir Keir should be wooing, then what was Boris doing there? Or could it be that Boris wouldn't really be seen dead at a place like that and was use simply ingratiating himself with the oiks?
    He was there purely to do research for his forthcoming speech to the CBI on innovation.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,323
    Someone was asking about regionality of COVID... in England

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  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,508
    edited December 2021

    I think Sir Keir has played a blinder with Peppa Pig World. Let's face it: all the parents would have found it a hellish experience - expensive, tedious and stressful - and will be nodding in agreement. Sir Keir has tapped into a hitherto unacknowledged truth of parenthood. And kids don't vote.

    Actually now we have had our fun, that’s a serious consideration. Is it really a gaff if he is talking to voters in a grown up way, suggesting dis-belief the Prime Minister says he actually enjoyed it? 🤔
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,486

    I think Sir Keir has played a blinder with Peppa Pig World. Let's face it: all the parents would have found it a hellish experience - expensive, tedious and stressful - and will be nodding in agreement. Sir Keir has tapped into a hitherto unacknowledged truth of parenthood. And kids don't vote.

    The world would be a far better place without children’s theme parks and children’s menus. #sirkeirisright
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176

    I think Sir Keir has played a blinder with Peppa Pig World. Let's face it: all the parents would have found it a hellish experience - expensive, tedious and stressful - and will be nodding in agreement. Sir Keir has tapped into a hitherto unacknowledged truth of parenthood. And kids don't vote.

    The world would be a far better place without children’s theme parks and children’s menus. #sirkeirisright
    One poster on PB thinks the world would be a better place without children full stop!
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,486
    I hope Sir Keir’s next take down is effing Legoland. Under pressure, I spent a scorching hot day there, it cost a fortune, the queues were endless and the food was disgusting.

    #sirkeirisright
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,855
    edited December 2021
    tlg86 said:

    I think Sir Keir has played a blinder with Peppa Pig World. Let's face it: all the parents would have found it a hellish experience - expensive, tedious and stressful - and will be nodding in agreement. Sir Keir has tapped into a hitherto unacknowledged truth of parenthood. And kids don't vote.

    The world would be a far better place without children’s theme parks and children’s menus. #sirkeirisright
    One poster on PB thinks the world would be a better place without children full stop!
    [deleted - on reflection, a point better discussed another time]
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,486

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,409
    edited December 2021
    Now one week since Storm Arwen and over 5000 homes still without power.
    So they can't watch Peppa Pig.

    Estimated final date for everyone back with leccy?
    Wednesday.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,486

    I think Sir Keir has played a blinder with Peppa Pig World. Let's face it: all the parents would have found it a hellish experience - expensive, tedious and stressful - and will be nodding in agreement. Sir Keir has tapped into a hitherto unacknowledged truth of parenthood. And kids don't vote.

    Actually now we have had our fun, that’s a serious consideration. Is it really a gaff if he is talking to voters in a grown up way, suggesting dis-belief the Prime Minister says he actually enjoyed it? 🤔
    No adult in their right mind could enjoy such a place. Children’s theme parks are the seventh circle of Hell.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,121

    I've been Pfizered!

    AZ, AZ, PF

    You sound to be gasping for breath.
    Is that a side effect ?
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,486
    tlg86 said:

    I think Sir Keir has played a blinder with Peppa Pig World. Let's face it: all the parents would have found it a hellish experience - expensive, tedious and stressful - and will be nodding in agreement. Sir Keir has tapped into a hitherto unacknowledged truth of parenthood. And kids don't vote.

    The world would be a far better place without children’s theme parks and children’s menus. #sirkeirisright
    One poster on PB thinks the world would be a better place without children full stop!
    True, although tellingly he was happy to be born himself.

    Funny old world.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,023
    tlg86 said:

    I think Sir Keir has played a blinder with Peppa Pig World. Let's face it: all the parents would have found it a hellish experience - expensive, tedious and stressful - and will be nodding in agreement. Sir Keir has tapped into a hitherto unacknowledged truth of parenthood. And kids don't vote.

    The world would be a far better place without children’s theme parks and children’s menus. #sirkeirisright
    One poster on PB thinks the world would be a better place without children full stop!
    That's a distortion. I think it would be a better place without all humans.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,121

    tlg86 said:

    I think Sir Keir has played a blinder with Peppa Pig World. Let's face it: all the parents would have found it a hellish experience - expensive, tedious and stressful - and will be nodding in agreement. Sir Keir has tapped into a hitherto unacknowledged truth of parenthood. And kids don't vote.

    The world would be a far better place without children’s theme parks and children’s menus. #sirkeirisright
    One poster on PB thinks the world would be a better place without children full stop!
    That's a distortion. I think it would be a better place without all humans.
    But who would ever know ?
    Or are you one of the lizard invaders ?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,698

    I think Sir Keir has played a blinder with Peppa Pig World. Let's face it: all the parents would have found it a hellish experience - expensive, tedious and stressful - and will be nodding in agreement. Sir Keir has tapped into a hitherto unacknowledged truth of parenthood. And kids don't vote.

    Sure, kids may like it, even love it. Parents however at best tolerate it because of that. Wouldn't any adult be rather suspect who went to Peppa Pig without a young child in tow?

    And I see Raab was not a fan either:

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1463439970132279299?t=tcycvirs3JRg0sFvq0x4sg&s=19
  • I think Sir Keir has played a blinder with Peppa Pig World. Let's face it: all the parents would have found it a hellish experience - expensive, tedious and stressful - and will be nodding in agreement. Sir Keir has tapped into a hitherto unacknowledged truth of parenthood. And kids don't vote.

    Actually now we have had our fun, that’s a serious consideration. Is it really a gaff if he is talking to voters in a grown up way, suggesting dis-belief the Prime Minister says he actually enjoyed it? 🤔
    Yes - there's no point in Sir Keir getting into an arms race with Boris about how wonderful they think Peppa Pig World is. Instead define Boris as the big kid and himself as the grumpy dad. Many will emphasize.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,508

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
  • Prof. Christina Pagel
    @chrischirp
    Regardless of Omicron, there's a lot of covid around right now. If you are infected from end of next week onwards you are v likely to be isolating over Christmas.
    Is the Xmas party season worth the risk?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,855

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
    You should be lucky. We didn't HAVE children's theme parks when I were a wean.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,698
    edited December 2021

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
    Mr Blobby was a bit like Ali G.

    He was set up as a children's character, and put in a show with a celebrity, but then goes bonkers. The funny bit was the celebrity tolerating the Blobby chaos.

    Like Ali G it only works until the character is revealed as a Mickley take.
  • dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
    It was a deliberately stupid spoof 'children's character' that they used to sting celebrities on some Noel Edmonds vehicle or another. But then it took on a life of its own and became a deliberately stupid real 'children's character' that appeared all over the place.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,409

    Someone was asking about regionality of COVID... in England

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    Very useful thanks.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,486

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
    He was once possibly the biggest celebrity in the UK. I think public opinion turned against him when he started a sideline in being hired for posh children’s birthday parties and then trashed the place. My memory is he fell into a girl’s multi-tiered birthday cake at one notable appearance.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,508
    MattW said:


    Is it antivaxxer hour again on PB?

    Worse than that - Peppa Pigate is kicking off. 🐖

    I’m off to make spicy chicken and lemon pizza.
    Would it be overly callous to talk about cooking the pulled pork?

    So right. Avoid pork today. 😆

    But seriously, HYUFD isn’t being serious (surely) but it is a gaff, because it’s not true. Peppa Pig World is one of the most popular theme parks around, a favourite with children for sure.

    I don’t have kids, but those friends have them aren’t sure Peppa Pig is a good role model. One of my friends is convinced it’s teaching his daughter to rebel, that it’s subconsciously teaching kids anarchism and anti authority. That’s the opposite of what Boris said. Is it Boris has missed something?

    there’s science to pizza topping. Spicy Chicken needs some counterbalances and I have half a lemon left over from yesterday I can squeeze over the top.
    Does anyone have a Spit Roast Pig Recipe? With Pepper?
    I think we have to stop now. Think of the children.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Jonathan said:

    There are intelligent, fairly serious republicans that go along with Trump because he is a winner. I don’t understand that either. I appreciate that you want to retain your seat, but associating with someone who incited a mob to storm the Capitol at the very least seems risky. They seem to think they can control him and ride the coat tails of a movement that wants to see the world burn.

    I’m not sure it’s just that though. Lindsey Graham it a case in point - a fairly sensible moderate Republicans and yet seems to have got deeply caught up in Trumpism.

    Against that at least Nikki Haley knew when to get off
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,855

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
    He was once possibly the biggest celebrity in the UK. I think public opinion turned against him when he started a sideline in being hired for posh children’s birthday parties and then trashed the place. My memory is he fell into a girl’s multi-tiered birthday cake at one notable appearance.
    One wonders where Mr B got the idea of trashing the venue of a posh party.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,486
    Wikipedia on Mr Blobby is a good read:

    Mr Blobby reduced a young girl to tears after throwing her birthday cake onto the floor during a show in Luton, causing the girl's father to mount the stage and assault Blobby.

    Neville Crumpton, who owns the rights to the character, said: "If the press can knock him, they'll knock him whenever they can."

    A trio of failed Mr Blobby theme parks also resulted in considerable negative press and scandal.

    (I had forgotten that he also had a number one single - he was MASSIVE!)
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,508

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
    He was once possibly the biggest celebrity in the UK. I think public opinion turned against him when he started a sideline in being hired for posh children’s birthday parties and then trashed the place. My memory is he fell into a girl’s multi-tiered birthday cake at one notable appearance.
    Anyone over the age of 45 shouldn’t be allowed a vote. What the hell were you all thinking of when you trashed this world?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    HYUFD said:

    Starmer gaffe. He just insults the most popular children's TV character of the decade's theme park in the way only a North London intellectual snob could.

    “I have been to Peppa Pig World, of course I have. It’s dreadful.” Keir Starmer

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1467065497304903683?s=20

    Rocking the Gordon Brown rictus grin!
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,409
    edited December 2021
    There were no fewer than three Blobbyland theme parks in the 90's. Here's one.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/inside-mr-blobbys-derelict-house-13590069.amp

    You can see how Spirited Away was inspired.
    PS. Her parents were transformed into Mummy and Daddy Pigs.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,508
    Pagan2 said:

    MattW said:


    Is it antivaxxer hour again on PB?

    Worse than that - Peppa Pigate is kicking off. 🐖

    I’m off to make spicy chicken and lemon pizza.
    Would it be overly callous to talk about cooking the pulled pork?

    So right. Avoid pork today. 😆

    But seriously, HYUFD isn’t being serious (surely) but it is a gaff, because it’s not true. Peppa Pig World is one of the most popular theme parks around, a favourite with children for sure.

    I don’t have kids, but those friends have them aren’t sure Peppa Pig is a good role model. One of my friends is convinced it’s teaching his daughter to rebel, that it’s subconsciously teaching kids anarchism and anti authority. That’s the opposite of what Boris said. Is it Boris has missed something?

    there’s science to pizza topping. Spicy Chicken needs some counterbalances and I have half a lemon left over from yesterday I can squeeze over the top.
    Does anyone have a Spit Roast Pig Recipe? With Pepper?

    No but can while away an hour doing the jigsaw
    This has to get a million likes.

    But stop now.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    moonshine said:

    rcs1000 said:

    moonshine said:

    Jonathan said:

    There are intelligent, fairly serious republicans that go along with Trump because he is a winner. I don’t understand that either. I appreciate that you want to retain your seat, but associating with someone who incited a mob to storm the Capitol at the very least seems risky. They seem to think they can control him and ride the coat tails of a movement that wants to see the world burn.

    The conservative militarists in 30's Germany thought they could control Hitler. That didn't well.
    Trump was the first President in 40 years not to launch a new foreign war. Bandying about Hitler is not a particularly insightful comparison to make and is almost certainly counter productive in winning round Trump voters to your pov.
    OK.

    Obama inherited US military presences in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Now, you can say that he also ordered drone strikes in Libya, Yemen and Somalia (plus sending helicopters into Pakistan), I didn't notice him launching a new foreign war. Plus, if you're going to say that Trump didn't initiate any, you also have to account for the fact that the number of foreign drone strikes per year were basically unchanged. Only under Biden has the US taken a step back from bombing others,

    Bush (W) - certainly did initiate wars. But prior to the US being actually attacked in 2001, I don't remember the US actually initiating any.

    Clinton. The Balkans. But was that actually a war?

    Bush (HW) - Iraq. But... the again, the US didn't exactly start that either,
    Start vs join is semantics here. Without debating the rights and wrongs of each campaign, I think it’s polite to Obama to say Libya was nothing to do with him, when he put boots on the ground, not just eyes in the sky, with the explicit goal of regime change. Which he was successful at, with a US missile attack on Gaddafi’s convoy being the direct enabler for his violent death.

    Clinton mobilised a coalition with the goal of removing the Belgrade government from part of its sovereign territory in Kosovo. I’d say that was a war. Mogadishu. Desert Fox. As for George W, I must have missed the bit about Iraq starting it by blowing up the world trade centre.
    The Kosovars didn’t regard themselves as being part of Serbian sovereign territory
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Stocky said:

    It's a lemming in a teaspoon.

    Can anybody recommend a sauce?

    Something with mouse-tard?
    Lemming sorbet?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,323
    edited December 2021

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
    Mr Blobby and the Teletubbies indicate widespread usage of bad drugs in the children's TV industry.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,465
    Currently in the Smoke for the first time for 3 years. Feels totally normal other than the annoying masks.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited December 2021
    Sir Keir and co have definitely cottoned on to the fact he came across as really dull - six months ago his press photos were him starting solemnly at some fish and chips, now he is making an attempt to be more animated. Good idea I would say, always best to inject a bit of energy into a photo rather look like you have a gun pointed at you. He is making an effort to look more cheery at PMQs as well I think, though he probably is genuinely enjoying being able to play Barrister to Boris's accused at the mo
  • A British employee of the UK Embassy in Berlin has been accused of passing official documents to Moscow agents. His arrest marks the third Russian espionage case in Germany in under a year.

    https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1466970514199494661?s=20
  • Members of the select congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack at the Capitol are pressing to overhaul the complex and little-known law that former President Donald J. Trump and his allies tried to use to overturn the 2020 election, arguing that the ambiguity of the statute puts democracy itself at risk.

    The push to rewrite the Electoral Count Act of 1887 — enacted more than a century ago in the wake of another bitterly disputed presidential election — has taken on new urgency in recent weeks

    NY Times
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,209

    MattW said:


    Is it antivaxxer hour again on PB?

    Worse than that - Peppa Pigate is kicking off. 🐖

    I’m off to make spicy chicken and lemon pizza.
    Would it be overly callous to talk about cooking the pulled pork?

    So right. Avoid pork today. 😆

    But seriously, HYUFD isn’t being serious (surely) but it is a gaff, because it’s not true. Peppa Pig World is one of the most popular theme parks around, a favourite with children for sure.

    I don’t have kids, but those friends have them aren’t sure Peppa Pig is a good role model. One of my friends is convinced it’s teaching his daughter to rebel, that it’s subconsciously teaching kids anarchism and anti authority. That’s the opposite of what Boris said. Is it Boris has missed something?

    there’s science to pizza topping. Spicy Chicken needs some counterbalances and I have half a lemon left over from yesterday I can squeeze over the top.
    Does anyone have a Spit Roast Pig Recipe? With Pepper?
    I think we have to stop now. Think of the children.
    Healthy children will find that quip really mild. Or smoking.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,209
    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
    Mr Blobby was a bit like Ali G.

    He was set up as a children's character, and put in a show with a celebrity, but then goes bonkers. The funny bit was the celebrity tolerating the Blobby chaos.

    Like Ali G it only works until the character is revealed as a Mickley take.
    Wasn't Mr Blobby invented and owned by Noel Edmonds?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,853

    Currently in the Smoke for the first time for 3 years. Feels totally normal other than the annoying masks.

    London seems to be unlike most of the rest of the country in that no one cares any more. I've been to other places and they've all been much more fastidious about masks, COVID apps, one place still insisted on checking in etc...

    Bristol was a lesson in how the rest of the country views COVID for me, I was actually really surprised as to how seriously they were taking it compared to what we do in London.

    I think the mask wearing will be back for a bit but eventually people will start to push back and bin them again. I'm going out for Christmas drinks and possibly a late opening bar with friends tonight, I expect it will be packed in Camden.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,323
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  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,209
    edited December 2021
    Interesting piece about the Govts proposed policing bill, and how it illustrates problems with the process of making law:

    https://www.ft.com/content/36091d6c-a542-4253-8261-1a354e60b6cb
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,409

    Admissions by region

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    So admissions are falling still. But not everywhere. SE is masking some heavy falls in the North. Just like cases.
  • MaxPB said:

    Currently in the Smoke for the first time for 3 years. Feels totally normal other than the annoying masks.

    London seems to be unlike most of the rest of the country in that no one cares any more. I've been to other places and they've all been much more fastidious about masks, COVID apps, one place still insisted on checking in etc...

    Bristol was a lesson in how the rest of the country views COVID for me, I was actually really surprised as to how seriously they were taking it compared to what we do in London.

    I think the mask wearing will be back for a bit but eventually people will start to push back and bin them again. I'm going out for Christmas drinks and possibly a late opening bar with friends tonight, I expect it will be packed in Camden.
    That's funny Max because nobody cares up here in the North either. Reports here implied that London was still continuing with Covid stuff past the point it was dropped here. I recall we had a discussion a few weeks ago where you said how very high the mask wearing was in Waterstones on Oxford Street, when I said that Waterstones in the Trafford Centre was virtually zero mask wearing.

    I expect Bristol may be an exception not the norm from what you've just said.
  • I hope Sir Keir’s next take down is effing Legoland. Under pressure, I spent a scorching hot day there, it cost a fortune, the queues were endless and the food was disgusting.

    #sirkeirisright

    Legoland is awesome. You've got to do two days with an overnight stay at the Legoland Hotel for the full experience though. They have hash browns shaped like actual lego bricks at the all you can eat breakfast buffet.
  • HYUFD said:

    Starmer gaffe. He just insults the most popular children's TV character of the decade's theme park in the way only a North London intellectual snob could.

    “I have been to Peppa Pig World, of course I have. It’s dreadful.” Keir Starmer

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1467065497304903683?s=20

    I would have thought that's a fairly universal view among parents who've been there. I've not been there but my wife has, she went with friends visiting from the Maldives (Peppa Pig is a global brand) and I think the consensus was that it was a massive rip-off.
    If he'd said it about Legoland, which is brilliant, it would have been a different matter completely...
    Google reviews with big samples. Peppa Pig world 4.7/5 Legoland 4.1/5
    British public totally wrong* again shocker.

    * wrong = disagreeing with me.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,508

    MaxPB said:

    Currently in the Smoke for the first time for 3 years. Feels totally normal other than the annoying masks.

    London seems to be unlike most of the rest of the country in that no one cares any more. I've been to other places and they've all been much more fastidious about masks, COVID apps, one place still insisted on checking in etc...

    Bristol was a lesson in how the rest of the country views COVID for me, I was actually really surprised as to how seriously they were taking it compared to what we do in London.

    I think the mask wearing will be back for a bit but eventually people will start to push back and bin them again. I'm going out for Christmas drinks and possibly a late opening bar with friends tonight, I expect it will be packed in Camden.
    That's funny Max because nobody cares up here in the North either. Reports here implied that London was still continuing with Covid stuff past the point it was dropped here. I recall we had a discussion a few weeks ago where you said how very high the mask wearing was in Waterstones on Oxford Street, when I said that Waterstones in the Trafford Centre was virtually zero mask wearing.

    I expect Bristol may be an exception not the norm from what you've just said.
    “I expect Bristol May be an exception, not the norm”

    https://www.facebook.com/Charlie.tunabc/videos/851048748896441
  • I hope Sir Keir’s next take down is effing Legoland. Under pressure, I spent a scorching hot day there, it cost a fortune, the queues were endless and the food was disgusting.

    #sirkeirisright

    Legoland is awesome. You've got to do two days with an overnight stay at the Legoland Hotel for the full experience though. They have hash browns shaped like actual lego bricks at the all you can eat breakfast buffet.
    About a decade since I've stayed overnight but the waterpark hotel at Alton Towers is awesome! Some really good waterslides there, and early access to the main park if staying there so you can access the most popular/busiest rides without any queues.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,698
    edited December 2021
    MaxPB said:

    Currently in the Smoke for the first time for 3 years. Feels totally normal other than the annoying masks.

    London seems to be unlike most of the rest of the country in that no one cares any more. I've been to other places and they've all been much more fastidious about masks, COVID apps, one place still insisted on checking in etc...

    Bristol was a lesson in how the rest of the country views COVID for me, I was actually really surprised as to how seriously they were taking it compared to what we do in London.

    I think the mask wearing will be back for a bit but eventually people will start to push back and bin them again. I'm going out for Christmas drinks and possibly a late opening bar with friends tonight, I expect it will be packed in Camden.
    Yes, it reminds me of a conversation with a mate in about 1985:

    Q: Foxy, is this AIDS thing really going to be a problem for straight people?

    A: Probably not for a while yet, there are few straight cases so far.

    Q: So what you advise is to screw around now while it's still safe?

    A: ((slightly taken aback) Yes, that is one interpretation...

    I suspect Camden is fairly safe this week. By Christmas Eve, maybe not...
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,682
    MaxPB said:

    Prof. Christina Pagel
    @chrischirp
    Regardless of Omicron, there's a lot of covid around right now. If you are infected from end of next week onwards you are v likely to be isolating over Christmas.
    Is the Xmas party season worth the risk?

    She's such a massive c***.
    This time next week: "there's a lot of covid around right now. If you are infected from end of next week onwards you are v likely to be isolating over New Year.
    Is the Christmas worth the risk?"
  • MaxPB said:

    Currently in the Smoke for the first time for 3 years. Feels totally normal other than the annoying masks.

    London seems to be unlike most of the rest of the country in that no one cares any more. I've been to other places and they've all been much more fastidious about masks, COVID apps, one place still insisted on checking in etc...

    Bristol was a lesson in how the rest of the country views COVID for me, I was actually really surprised as to how seriously they were taking it compared to what we do in London.

    I think the mask wearing will be back for a bit but eventually people will start to push back and bin them again. I'm going out for Christmas drinks and possibly a late opening bar with friends tonight, I expect it will be packed in Camden.
    You've certainly not been to Yorkshire then.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,121
    edited December 2021
    Foxy said:

    MaxPB said:

    Currently in the Smoke for the first time for 3 years. Feels totally normal other than the annoying masks.

    London seems to be unlike most of the rest of the country in that no one cares any more. I've been to other places and they've all been much more fastidious about masks, COVID apps, one place still insisted on checking in etc...

    Bristol was a lesson in how the rest of the country views COVID for me, I was actually really surprised as to how seriously they were taking it compared to what we do in London.

    I think the mask wearing will be back for a bit but eventually people will start to push back and bin them again. I'm going out for Christmas drinks and possibly a late opening bar with friends tonight, I expect it will be packed in Camden.
    Yes, it reminds me of a conversation with a mate in about 1985:

    Q: Foxy, is this AIDS thing really going to be a problem for straight people?

    A: Probably not for a while yet, there are few straight cases so far.

    Q: So what you advise is to screw around now while it's still safe?

    A: ((slightly taken aback) Yes, that is one interpretation...

    I suspect Camden is fairly safe this week. By Christmas Eve, maybe not...
    You go back a long way with Sean.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,698
    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    MaxPB said:

    Currently in the Smoke for the first time for 3 years. Feels totally normal other than the annoying masks.

    London seems to be unlike most of the rest of the country in that no one cares any more. I've been to other places and they've all been much more fastidious about masks, COVID apps, one place still insisted on checking in etc...

    Bristol was a lesson in how the rest of the country views COVID for me, I was actually really surprised as to how seriously they were taking it compared to what we do in London.

    I think the mask wearing will be back for a bit but eventually people will start to push back and bin them again. I'm going out for Christmas drinks and possibly a late opening bar with friends tonight, I expect it will be packed in Camden.
    Yes, it reminds me of a conversation with a mate in about 1985:

    Q: Foxy, is this AIDS thing really going to be a problem for straight people?

    A: Probably not for a while yet, there are few straight cases so far.

    Q: So what you advise is to screw around now while it's still safe?

    A: ((slightly taken aback) Yes, that is one interpretation...

    I suspect Camden is fairly safe this week. By Christmas Eve, maybe not...
    You go back a long was with Sean.
    We were both in the Smoke in the Eighties, but the conversation was with a gas fitter who was later my best man. We used to go out on the town together, but I was always the Andrew Ridgley of the pair.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,121
    This epic Magnus Carlsen versus Ian Nepomniachtchi game lasted longer than the whole 7 episodes of "The Queen's Gambit" mini-series on Netflix.
    https://twitter.com/olimpiuurcan/status/1466898824845168643
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,983
    edited December 2021
    On a related note.

    https://twitter.com/TroopsinContact/status/1466576244980387841?s=20

    I'm aware that Ukranian politics is full of all sorts of ghastliness but quite moving in its way.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,508

    I hope Sir Keir’s next take down is effing Legoland. Under pressure, I spent a scorching hot day there, it cost a fortune, the queues were endless and the food was disgusting.

    #sirkeirisright

    Legoland is awesome. You've got to do two days with an overnight stay at the Legoland Hotel for the full experience though. They have hash browns shaped like actual lego bricks at the all you can eat breakfast buffet.
    About a decade since I've stayed overnight but the waterpark hotel at Alton Towers is awesome! Some really good waterslides there, and early access to the main park if staying there so you can access the most popular/busiest rides without any queues.
    Did you also spend time with Pugins Castle and the Gardens? I dragged my friends round it who went for the rides. I thought it was great.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,845
    rcs1000 said:

    darkage said:

    On the French election; my approach has been to back both Zemmour and Le Pen at 10/1.

    So it is 5/1 that one them will a) get through to the final (very likely) and beat Macron (a greater than 20% possibility, in my view).

    Edit - it seems to me that there is more value in this approach than laying Macron at the current odds.

    I think a Le Pen victory over Macron is a very real possibility (certainly greater than a 20% chance, assuming Le Pen v Macron).

    But like Quincel, I don't think much of Zemmour's chances.

    Le Pen is an economic nationalist. I quite like her. I don't think she's a racist or a loon. I don't think her prescription (i.e. more state intervention to ensure business was doing the right thing) would do France much good, but she's a sincere woman, doing her bit for the downtrodden in France, and good for her.

    Zemmour, though, is just another boring bar room anti-Anglo Saxon French intellectual. He's like if Macron, De Gaulle, Chirac or Sarkozy chose to become detached from reality, and started making shit up, because the glory of France is so great that one can forgive everything in it's name.

    What does he offer someone whose job has been lost to globalisation or competition from Eastern Europe?

    Nothing.

    Let me put it another way: it is very lazy to assume that Le Pen and Zemmour are fishing in the same pool.
    What I would say is that Zemmour is fishing in a puddle that seeps into Le Pen's pond. It is by no means all or even a major part of her support but it is important to her that she drains it effectively.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,219
    Foxy said:

    MaxPB said:

    Currently in the Smoke for the first time for 3 years. Feels totally normal other than the annoying masks.

    London seems to be unlike most of the rest of the country in that no one cares any more. I've been to other places and they've all been much more fastidious about masks, COVID apps, one place still insisted on checking in etc...

    Bristol was a lesson in how the rest of the country views COVID for me, I was actually really surprised as to how seriously they were taking it compared to what we do in London.

    I think the mask wearing will be back for a bit but eventually people will start to push back and bin them again. I'm going out for Christmas drinks and possibly a late opening bar with friends tonight, I expect it will be packed in Camden.
    Yes, it reminds me of a conversation with a mate in about 1985:

    Q: Foxy, is this AIDS thing really going to be a problem for straight people?

    A: Probably not for a while yet, there are few straight cases so far.

    Q: So what you advise is to screw around now while it's still safe?

    A: ((slightly taken aback) Yes, that is one interpretation...

    I suspect Camden is fairly safe this week. By Christmas Eve, maybe not...
    Are you allowing for the fact that Max is vaccinated? I'm vaccinated (and boosted) and operating as normally as I can - many others are doing the same. We have to trust the vaccines.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,845
    Farooq said:

    Foxy said:

    MaxPB said:

    Currently in the Smoke for the first time for 3 years. Feels totally normal other than the annoying masks.

    London seems to be unlike most of the rest of the country in that no one cares any more. I've been to other places and they've all been much more fastidious about masks, COVID apps, one place still insisted on checking in etc...

    Bristol was a lesson in how the rest of the country views COVID for me, I was actually really surprised as to how seriously they were taking it compared to what we do in London.

    I think the mask wearing will be back for a bit but eventually people will start to push back and bin them again. I'm going out for Christmas drinks and possibly a late opening bar with friends tonight, I expect it will be packed in Camden.
    Yes, it reminds me of a conversation with a mate in about 1985:

    Q: Foxy, is this AIDS thing really going to be a problem for straight people?

    A: Probably not for a while yet, there are few straight cases so far.

    Q: So what you advise is to screw around now while it's still safe?

    A: ((slightly taken aback) Yes, that is one interpretation...

    I suspect Camden is fairly safe this week. By Christmas Eve, maybe not...
    Goddamnit Foxy, I thought you were better than this crap.
    Two open brackets and only one close? Standards, man.
    Harsh but fair.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,209
    edited December 2021

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
    You seriously need to meet Ludwig and Bod.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk5anZMoMg0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7vEyTK3LjM
  • I've been Pfizered!

    AZ, AZ, PF

    I’m PF, PF and am not allowed my booster til January. I suspect it might be Moderna.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,845

    I hope Sir Keir’s next take down is effing Legoland. Under pressure, I spent a scorching hot day there, it cost a fortune, the queues were endless and the food was disgusting.

    #sirkeirisright

    Legoland is awesome. You've got to do two days with an overnight stay at the Legoland Hotel for the full experience though. They have hash browns shaped like actual lego bricks at the all you can eat breakfast buffet.
    About a decade since I've stayed overnight but the waterpark hotel at Alton Towers is awesome! Some really good waterslides there, and early access to the main park if staying there so you can access the most popular/busiest rides without any queues.
    Yes, Alton Towers is not really my thing but their hotel was excellent.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,845

    I've been Pfizered!

    AZ, AZ, PF

    I’m PF, PF and am not allowed my booster til January. I suspect it might be Moderna.
    You should have a word with Saj, he might even take you in.
  • ‘Bolsonaro to face probe after claiming COVID vaccines increase chance of contracting AIDS’

    Should candidates in elections have to pass minimum IQ criteria? There seem to be an awful lot of thickos in office at the moment.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,508
    Flexi Furlough second by a length. 🙄

    We’ll win again. Don’t know where don’t know when
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,164
    edited December 2021

    ‘Bolsonaro to face probe after claiming COVID vaccines increase chance of contracting AIDS’

    Should candidates in elections have to pass minimum IQ criteria? There seem to be an awful lot of thickos in office at the moment.

    Trolls and provocateurs are often not the brightest.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,054
    edited December 2021

    Prof. Christina Pagel
    @chrischirp
    Regardless of Omicron, there's a lot of covid around right now. If you are infected from end of next week onwards you are v likely to be isolating over Christmas.
    Is the Xmas party season worth the risk?

    Given the predictions we will be battling COVID for 5+ years, this is going to become an annual warning like strawberry shortages in the summer....there is always going to be another variant, another reason not to have x event, etc.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,845

    A British employee of the UK Embassy in Berlin has been accused of passing official documents to Moscow agents. His arrest marks the third Russian espionage case in Germany in under a year.

    https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1466970514199494661?s=20

    We have secrets worth stealing? Blimey.
  • UPDATE: I can confirm #HGV drivers will NOT need to do a pre-departure test before travelling to #France, in light of the new border measures announced by the French Government this week.

    This positive news will help to support continuing flow of goods between the UK & the EU.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,845

    ‘Bolsonaro to face probe after claiming COVID vaccines increase chance of contracting AIDS’

    Should candidates in elections have to pass minimum IQ criteria? There seem to be an awful lot of thickos in office at the moment.

    Hmm.
    If you are double or treble vaxxed you are going to be much more confident about going out and, you know, having a life.
    If you go out you significantly increase your chances of getting laid.
    If you get laid you increase your prospects of catching AIDS.

    Sounds plausible.
  • MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
    You seriously need to meet Ludwig and Bod.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk5anZMoMg0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7vEyTK3LjM
    I once tried making a 3D Ludwig out of paper and Sellotape. I don't recall it being an overriding success.
  • DavidL said:

    ‘Bolsonaro to face probe after claiming COVID vaccines increase chance of contracting AIDS’

    Should candidates in elections have to pass minimum IQ criteria? There seem to be an awful lot of thickos in office at the moment.

    Hmm.
    If you are double or treble vaxxed you are going to be much more confident about going out and, you know, having a life.
    If you go out you significantly increase your chances of getting laid.
    If you get laid you increase your prospects of catching AIDS.

    Sounds plausible.
    I’m a happily married man. I stay in to get laid.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,219

    DavidL said:

    ‘Bolsonaro to face probe after claiming COVID vaccines increase chance of contracting AIDS’

    Should candidates in elections have to pass minimum IQ criteria? There seem to be an awful lot of thickos in office at the moment.

    Hmm.
    If you are double or treble vaxxed you are going to be much more confident about going out and, you know, having a life.
    If you go out you significantly increase your chances of getting laid.
    If you get laid you increase your prospects of catching AIDS.

    Sounds plausible.
    I’m a happily married man. I stay in to get laid.
    Yes but that doesn't count.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,853

    ‘Bolsonaro to face probe after claiming COVID vaccines increase chance of contracting AIDS’

    Should candidates in elections have to pass minimum IQ criteria? There seem to be an awful lot of thickos in office at the moment.

    The Russian one actually might have this side effect. The Ad5 vector has previously been linked to increased rates of HIV and the Russian vaccine uses it for the second dose. It's one of the reasons a lot of countries who originally bought it haven't used it or have done no second doses with it.
  • MaxPB said:

    ‘Bolsonaro to face probe after claiming COVID vaccines increase chance of contracting AIDS’

    Should candidates in elections have to pass minimum IQ criteria? There seem to be an awful lot of thickos in office at the moment.

    The Russian one actually might have this side effect. The Ad5 vector has previously been linked to increased rates of HIV and the Russian vaccine uses it for the second dose. It's one of the reasons a lot of countries who originally bought it haven't used it or have done no second doses with it.
    Linked to increase rates, or links to increase positive tests for HIV. Didn't the Australian vaccine have the issue with the second i.e people weren't actually HIV positive, but it caused a false positive on some tests?
  • DavidL said:

    A British employee of the UK Embassy in Berlin has been accused of passing official documents to Moscow agents. His arrest marks the third Russian espionage case in Germany in under a year.

    https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1466970514199494661?s=20

    We have secrets worth stealing? Blimey.
    I thought the current arrangement was that the Russians purchase them instead?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,853

    MaxPB said:

    ‘Bolsonaro to face probe after claiming COVID vaccines increase chance of contracting AIDS’

    Should candidates in elections have to pass minimum IQ criteria? There seem to be an awful lot of thickos in office at the moment.

    The Russian one actually might have this side effect. The Ad5 vector has previously been linked to increased rates of HIV and the Russian vaccine uses it for the second dose. It's one of the reasons a lot of countries who originally bought it haven't used it or have done no second doses with it.
    Linked to increase rates, or links to increase positive tests for HIV. Didn't the Australian vaccine have the issue with the second i.e people weren't actually HIV positive, but it caused a false positive on some tests?
    No, actually HIV. The Australian one used a neutered version of HIV as a delivery vector (which was, looking back, a completely stupid idea), Ad5 seems to almost lower natural defences against HIV.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,508
    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    Have I got this right? The battleground for the next GE is going to be the Party Leaders' opinions of Peppa Pig World?

    Doubtless Ed Davey will sit on the fence and remain studiously neutral.

    The LD's need radical, distinctive policies which sit outside the mainstream of the Culture War.
    Expect a speech on Raa Raa the Noisy Lion.
    I know I have said it before, but it really is true and Lib Dem’s should seriously consider it. If Ed Davey had a celebrity affair with someone, people would remember his name and listen to him more.

    Who should Ed have an affair with to best help the LibDem brand? Would Gemma Collins be a good match for younger voters? Joan Collins would suggest he can attract Conservatives?
    Mummy Pig?

    I think the script call for an extramarital affair with Mummy Pig that preferably leads to a new family member.

    Peppa welcomes her little brother, Lib Dem Pig, could be a classic episode.
    Davey Pig surely? With yellow spots.

    Peppa Pig did come out in support for Gordon Browns Labour, so can’t complain about becoming a political football.
    Is Peppa Pig related to Mr Blobby? Time was when he was the key pink TV star du jour.
    Before my time, I had to google mr blobby. What the fuck did they invent that for? 😂
    You seriously need to meet Ludwig and Bod.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk5anZMoMg0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7vEyTK3LjM
    Nice try! First one obviously a pastiche of a public information film, I’m not falling for that it’s likely very recent made to look weird.

    I don’t know what to make of the second one other than it made me feel sick.
  • I wonder how much the far left clamour to replace SKS would decrease if he were to let Corbyn back in the PLP. I expect it would by a considerable amount; the Corbynites' onolatry is rather perplexing.
  • malcolmg said:

    It's a lemming in a teaspoon.

    Can anybody recommend a sauce?

    Please god no.

    I can tolerate that this blog rarely talks about political betting, because 98% of the time it is vaguely about politics, current affairs, society and culture, and 1% of the time about betting.

    Please find a “small mammal comedy” blog for your insta rejects.
    Unkind, a few mor enice pictures like that would beat a lot of the drivel written.
    I love how one of my favourite old lemmings defended my post after I'd revealed it as an analogy for Scottish independence!
  • JBriskin3JBriskin3 Posts: 1,254
    edited December 2021

    I wonder how much the far left clamour to replace SKS would decrease if he were to let Corbyn back in the PLP. I expect it would by a considerable amount; the Corbynites' onolatry is rather perplexing.

    (Sorry I don't know enough about "far left clamour" to address you're point specifically)

    The zionists have done an amazing job in managing to spin a pro-palestine ideology as anti-semitic.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868

    I've been Pfizered!

    AZ, AZ, PF

    Take it easy, tomorrow :)
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    Foxy said:

    MaxPB said:

    Currently in the Smoke for the first time for 3 years. Feels totally normal other than the annoying masks.

    London seems to be unlike most of the rest of the country in that no one cares any more. I've been to other places and they've all been much more fastidious about masks, COVID apps, one place still insisted on checking in etc...

    Bristol was a lesson in how the rest of the country views COVID for me, I was actually really surprised as to how seriously they were taking it compared to what we do in London.

    I think the mask wearing will be back for a bit but eventually people will start to push back and bin them again. I'm going out for Christmas drinks and possibly a late opening bar with friends tonight, I expect it will be packed in Camden.
    Yes, it reminds me of a conversation with a mate in about 1985:

    Q: Foxy, is this AIDS thing really going to be a problem for straight people?

    A: Probably not for a while yet, there are few straight cases so far.

    Q: So what you advise is to screw around now while it's still safe?

    A: ((slightly taken aback) Yes, that is one interpretation...

    I suspect Camden is fairly safe this week. By Christmas Eve, maybe not...
    I doubt that Sean emerging from under his duvet once he shakes off his latest minor cold will present much of a threat to the denizens of old Camden Town
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