politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Read all about it. The news sources that matter nowadays

Not anymore

America Elects
Wisconsin poll:

Cruz 36%
Trump 31%
Kasich 21%

(via Basswood Research)

If the rumours about Cruz are true then he is a classic example of 'power being a great aphrodisiac', most earlier rumours about a candidate's personal life seemed to concern Rubio. Unless the mainstream media picks up on it though rumours will not have a major impact

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Fastest way to hold the Conservative party would be this move by Cameron. To embrace the VOTE LEAVE kippers that Farage is isolating. Cameron can still campaign for REMAIN, but will look like a big man if he brought back Carswell, Evans and O'Flynn etc.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/12204198/Ukip-is-a-party-with-no-future.-Suzanne-Evans-should-join-the-Tories.html

Why should the Conservatives want to take back Suzanne Evans , a useless politician who got 2,200 odd votes in her ward standing as a Conservative and 300 odd standing for UKIP ?

Laughing so hard now

Donald Trump
Wow, just released that $67 million in negative ads was spent on me. How am I still number one - by a lot?

For in-depth news a broadsheet is still better than TV, although not necessarily a tabloid, internet news also tends to be more detailed

HYUFD said:

For in-depth news a broadsheet is still better than TV, although not necessarily a tabloid, internet news also tends to be more detailed

True. I've been predicting for a while that daily hard-copy newspapers will die a death before long. They're proving more stubborn than I expected but I still think that the natural endpoint is that immediate news will all move on line, to be reported on in close to real time, while in-depth writing will still have a place on paper but will tend to move to weekly publications.

" 59% of the viewing public think that BBC TV is trustworthy and 41% say it helps them make their minds up. The Mail newspapers tally 41% trustworthiness among their own readers and 37% of their own readers say that they help them make their minds up. The figures for the Sun are still worse: 23% for both measures among their own readers. Only the Guardian and the Observer are more trusted by their own readers than the BBC is trusted by its viewers."

This makes a lot of sense. As PM Hacker once said "the Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country". It really doesn't surprise me that those that read the Guardian are contented with what they are being fed.

Roger said:

I wonder whether the rapidly declining readership in the popular press is linked to how little they are trusted even by their own readership. Why read badly written fiction? (SeanT excepted of course)

Particularly while there are sites like this that provide a variety of opinion on every subject.

The poster formerly known as Antifrank for example.

GeoffM said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. M, I wouldn't worry about foreign travel. We'll all be dead of plague within a day of voting to Leave

Or driven mad by the sounds of the EU visa-less Roger and Tyson shagging noisily in the deserted closed down and obsolete international departure lounge at Heathrow.

On the 24th there will be a crew in a van outside Heathrow ready to install a sign which says 'Twinned with Nicosia International Airport'

47% are 10/10 certain to vote in EU ref, 10% 9/10, 7% 8/10 and 4% 7/10

david_herdson said:

HYUFD said:

For in-depth news a broadsheet is still better than TV, although not necessarily a tabloid, internet news also tends to be more detailed

True. I've been predicting for a while that daily hard-copy newspapers will die a death before long. They're proving more stubborn than I expected but I still think that the natural endpoint is that immediate news will all move on line, to be reported on in close to real time, while in-depth writing will still have a place on paper but will tend to move to weekly publications.

Probably, there will always be a place for high-quality writing

Plato_Says said:

Kaboom

@CNN Adriana Cohen with the direct hit. #cruzsexscandal WOW! @amandacarpenter https://t.co/h2qSqFl0I9

Blink blink blink blink....like the bloke out of the Thick of it.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Betting, unsure whether it would be wise to allow Carswell to return. If people think defection's a burnt bridge, rather than merely a singed one, they're less likely to do it.
Getting Evans for the blues would be wise.

Be magnanimous with Carswell - it would win a lot of kipper votes.

FrancisUrquhart said:

Think just seen the worse meme for this....with talk in regards his #Cruzmissile

I will now be ordering a pint of mind bleach in the pub this evening.

Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Think just seen the worse meme for this....with talk in regards his #Cruzmissile

I will now be ordering a pint of mind bleach in the pub this evening.

It gets worse....this is an actual tweet from one of the ladies in question...The liberal comedy political shows are going to have an easy week this week with putting together material..

https://twitter.com/amandacarpenter/status/697065582580121600

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Betting, that's a legitimate counter-argument. I suppose it depends whether the view is UKIP's dying, or just dormant and ready to be resurgent once Farage buggers off. If he ever does.

Farage has decided to put himself before the party and before the referendum. So be it.

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Betting, unsure whether it would be wise to allow Carswell to return. If people think defection's a burnt bridge, rather than merely a singed one, they're less likely to do it.
Getting Evans for the blues would be wise.

Be magnanimous with Carswell - it would win a lot of kipper votes.

I think the Conservatives would accept Carswell back, at least under some circumstances. I'm not so sure they'd accept TBD back though.

The question is why Carswell would want to go back: he has much more power and influence as UKIP's only MP than he would have as one of a few hundred Conservative MPs. And a return may neuter him somewhat.

Who gotcha'd Swaggart? That was a hoot at the time.

If I'm reading things right, the same journalist who outed Edwards is behind Cruz expose.

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Plato, Jimmy Swaggart priceless.

JosiasJessop said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Betting, unsure whether it would be wise to allow Carswell to return. If people think defection's a burnt bridge, rather than merely a singed one, they're less likely to do it.
Getting Evans for the blues would be wise.

Be magnanimous with Carswell - it would win a lot of kipper votes.

I think the Conservatives would accept Carswell back, at least under some circumstances. I'm not so sure they'd accept TBD back though.

The question is why Carswell would want to go back: he has much more power and influence as UKIP's only MP than he would have as one of a few hundred Conservative MPs. And a return may neuter him somewhat.

He would be part of the group that will run the party with the new Leader, eventually. With Osborne out of the picture.

Sean_F said:

Plato:-

Hopefully, the Sun will repeat its headline:-

"I let my wife down. I let my family down. " And, he's let his trousers down.

Drudge has finally woken up

Drudge Report News

REPORT: #Cruz Silent on #NationalEnquirer #sex scandal claims http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7027680/Shocking-claims-Ted-Cruz-had-extramarital-affairs-with-FIVE-women.html …

Sean_F said:

Plato:-

Hopefully, the Sun will repeat its headline:-

"I let my wife down. I let my family down. " And, he's let his trousers down.

I think Spitting Image did a sketch about Paddy Pantsdown relating to his affair and his attempted positioning of the party: "I touched neither her left leg, nor her right leg, but somewhere in between."

PaladinCornelia

So...should we call this the #CubanMistressCrisis?

Pulpstar said:

You'd have thought terrorism exploding across Europe and Cruz being caught with his pants down would boost Trump (And bury Ted), but I'm taking nothing for granted this GOP race !

There's been very little movement on Betfair today considering all the excitement.

Plato_Says said:

PaladinCornelia

So...should we call this the #CubanMistressCrisis?

That's actually very good....

Plato_Says said:

Ben Stanton
Yes finally hit Yahoo! #CruzSexScandal
ttps://twitter.com/BenStanton77/status/713411884980916224/photo/1

Anthony Cumia Verified account
Well, #Cruz just acknowledged the Nat Enq story. Here we go.
Press can now run with it.

Given a women has just screamed it on CNN, I think that train has already left the station.

VaughnHillyard

NEW: Cruz denies National Inquirer story about alleged infidelities. Calls them "complete & utter lies" and "tabloid smear."

Alistair said:

Cruz has inched out to 8 on betfair

Has he got big hands??

I think of all the Republican nom charts on bet fair Bush's is by far the funniest

Wanderer said:

Alistair said:

Cruz has inched out to 8 on betfair

Ye-es, but has done that on other days recently.

Still favourite in the Wisconsin market.

I lumped more on Trump at 1.43 earlier today and he is down to 1.4, an insignificant move.

Not the dramatic moves I was expecting.

Plato_Says said:

VaughnHillyard

NEW: Cruz denies National Inquirer story about alleged infidelities. Calls them "complete & utter lies" and "tabloid smear."

Doubles down. Interesting. Very, very interesting.

I suppose Cruz has followed Casino Royale's example, and laid as much Bush as possible.

What I've enjoyed most are the NE's deliberately limp attempts to conceal the identities of the ladies involved. They've used promo shots for several with a black bar across their eyes like a 70s porn expose.

Sean_F said:

I suppose Cruz has followed Casino Royale's example, and laid as much Bush as possible.

Alistair said:

Wanderer said:

Alistair said:

Cruz has inched out to 8 on betfair

Ye-es, but has done that on other days recently.

Still favourite in the Wisconsin market.

I lumped more on Trump at 1.43 earlier today and he is down to 1.4, an insignificant move.

Not the dramatic moves I was expecting.

Same here and yes, disappointing results so far.

A journo has already said he knew two were involved. Rubio knew it too. Its a mess.

I give Cruz until Monday at the latest.

MaxPB said:

Plato_Says said:

VaughnHillyard

NEW: Cruz denies National Inquirer story about alleged infidelities. Calls them "complete & utter lies" and "tabloid smear."

Massive hostage to fortune now if he has done it, all it needs is one of the women to confirm it and hey presto, not only is he a cheater, he is a liar, confirming Trump's lyin' Ted nickname.

NickPalmer said:

MonikerDiCanio said:

NickPalmer said:

CarlottaVance said:

Plato_Says said:

And Bang - the Sun goes first

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7027680/Shocking-claims-Ted-Cruz-had-extramarital-affairs-with-FIVE-women.html

The odd thing is #CruzSexScandal is no longer trending in the US on Twitter....it was number 1 a couple of hours ago.....

Supposedly Twitter has deleted/banned the hashtag. But it's hard to disentangle fact from fiction in the social media world. I'm reserving judgment on the Cruz story too (though frankly the number of women he's slept with is the least of the worries we might have about him).

Don't the blackmail opportunities worry you ?

I suppose so, but Clinton carried on as President regardless. Can't he just say yes, I was a sinner, but I've prayed and seen the light? Though he seems to have gone the flat denial route instead - which might work (or even be true), since the Enquirer is not seen as a reliable source. It depends whether the women concerned are willing to provide chapter and verse.

Incidentally, I don't think there have ever been rumours of infidelity at the top in Britain since the war apart from Major, have there? The general impression is that PMs are just too busy to have affairs.

The point is, it isn't just NE...mainstream journos are now saying yes we know / knew of x of these. Also you dismiss NE too easily, they have broken a whole load of big stories which have been 100% accurate. Tiger Woods for one.

Wasn't Tony Blair meant to be having an affair with Wendy Deng?

NickPalmer said:

MonikerDiCanio said:

NickPalmer said:

CarlottaVance said:

Plato_Says said:

And Bang - the Sun goes first

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7027680/Shocking-claims-Ted-Cruz-had-extramarital-affairs-with-FIVE-women.html

The odd thing is #CruzSexScandal is no longer trending in the US on Twitter....it was number 1 a couple of hours ago.....

Supposedly Twitter has deleted/banned the hashtag. But it's hard to disentangle fact from fiction in the social media world. I'm reserving judgment on the Cruz story too (though frankly the number of women he's slept with is the least of the worries we might have about him).

Don't the blackmail opportunities worry you ?

I suppose so, but Clinton carried on as President regardless. Can't he just say yes, I was a sinner, but I've prayed and seen the light? Though he seems to have gone the flat denial route instead - which might work (or even be true), since the Enquirer is not seen as a reliable source. It depends whether the women concerned are willing to provide chapter and verse.

Incidentally, I don't think there have ever been rumours of infidelity at the top in Britain since the war apart from Major, have there? The general impression is that PMs are just too busy to have affairs.

If only Hugh Gaitskell had lived.

As I noted upthread - the guy who broke Edwards is behind this.

FrancisUrquhart said:

NickPalmer said:

MonikerDiCanio said:

NickPalmer said:

CarlottaVance said:

Plato_Says said:

And Bang - the Sun goes first

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7027680/Shocking-claims-Ted-Cruz-had-extramarital-affairs-with-FIVE-women.html

The odd thing is #CruzSexScandal is no longer trending in the US on Twitter....it was number 1 a couple of hours ago.....

Supposedly Twitter has deleted/banned the hashtag. But it's hard to disentangle fact from fiction in the social media world. I'm reserving judgment on the Cruz story too (though frankly the number of women he's slept with is the least of the worries we might have about him).

Don't the blackmail opportunities worry you ?

I suppose so, but Clinton carried on as President regardless. Can't he just say yes, I was a sinner, but I've prayed and seen the light? Though he seems to have gone the flat denial route instead - which might work (or even be true), since the Enquirer is not seen as a reliable source. It depends whether the women concerned are willing to provide chapter and verse.

Incidentally, I don't think there have ever been rumours of infidelity at the top in Britain since the war apart from Major, have there? The general impression is that PMs are just too busy to have affairs.

The point is, it isn't just NE...mainstream journos are now saying yes we know / knew of x of these. Also you dismiss NE too easily, they have broken a whole load of big stories which have been 100% accurate. Tiger Woods for one.

And so the avalanche begins http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3509366/Trump-aide-s-fury-100-false-claim-one-five-women-affair-Ted-Cruz.html

The National Enquirer published a story that says investigators are looking into claims that Ted Cruz cheated with five women
In the story the women weren't named, but Republican strategist Liz Mair - who runs an anti-Trump super PAC - identified them on Twitter
Mair named Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pierson who pushed back saying the operative knew the allegation was false but spread the story anyway
Mair suggested that Pierson may have 'come on' to Cruz but said it was an 'obviously false' allegation that Pierson had an affair

Pulpstar said:

Plato_Says said:

Ted always puts his family and faith first...

How small is the crowd?

BusTed

Is that now a Minibus, Ted?

During the 4th century (BC), Perdiccas made numerous mistakes. One of the worst was dilly-dallying and not being sure which woman to marry, which resulted in alienating just about every one he might have wed.

Of course, this wasn't a long term problem as his failed invasion of Egypt led his own soldiers to murder him.

Jack W,

I reckon his chances of the nomination must now be pretty limp.

Katrina Pierson is one of the name women, she says

https://twitter.com/KatrinaPierson/status/713394980153208832

The important thing to note is that she is a Trump spokeswoman.

If you look at other National Enquirer exclusives over the years other sources may be required to give this Cruz story serious legs, so to speak.

TCPoliticalBetting said:

MarkSenior said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Fastest way to hold the Conservative party would be this move by Cameron. To embrace the VOTE LEAVE kippers that Farage is isolating. Cameron can still campaign for REMAIN, but will look like a big man if he brought back Carswell, Evans and O'Flynn etc.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/12204198/Ukip-is-a-party-with-no-future.-Suzanne-Evans-should-join-the-Tories.html

Why should the Conservatives want to take back Suzanne Evans , a useless politician who got 2,200 odd votes in her ward standing as a Conservative and 300 odd standing for UKIP ?

I am comfortable that a Lib Dem does not understand her impact nationally.
She would bring more votes than Farron has added to the LDs.
More importantly are we facing 1 LD rep for each of Wales, Scotland and London at the May elections?

I think the libdems will get two or three in Scotland. They should get one of Orkney and Shetland, one of the north west Scotland top ups, and one southern list seat too.

http://news.groopspeak.com/breaking-washington-times-reporter-drops-bomb-on-ted-cruz-mistress-allegations-photos/

The April 4 edition of The National Enquirer makes damaging claims about Ted Cruz in a bold, above-the-fold headline. But don’t be so quick to write it off as another silly claim by a silly tabloid. A political columnist for The Washington Times just backed up the story that Cruz had multiple extramarital affairs.

Sean_F said:

Jack W,

I reckon his chances of the nomination must now be pretty limp.

Surprised that this infidelity grenade has not been thrown with more gusto.

So far, more of a lazy lob.

foxinsoxuk said:

Sean_F said:

Jack W,

I reckon his chances of the nomination must now be pretty limp.

Trump must be cock a hoop.

Let's hope it's not just premature speculation.