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  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Not anymore

    America Elects
    Wisconsin poll:

    Cruz 36%
    Trump 31%
    Kasich 21%

    (via Basswood Research)
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,062
    Moses_ said:

    Roger said:

    tyson said:

    I must say Roger that Alastair Meeks article on Cameron, moreover the ungrateful group of back stabbing, disloyal swivel eyed, lunatic Tories that comprise the majority of the party, was absolutely outstanding.

    Cameron has made the Tories into an electoral force, against all the odds, and in doing so has marginalised Labour and the LD's. And what does he get in return from his lot. A whole heap of crap.

    It is little surprise that Meek's articles piss off the head banging pbCOM Tories.

    Roger said:

    MTimT said:

    One of the news sources that does not matter is Alastair Meeks on anything to do with the EU referendum.

    Bring back anti frank. I liked him well enough.

    Blessed is the Meek for he shall inherit the earth.

    (Ignore the Philistines)
    Hi Tyson. I agree. One of the most informed and interesting commentators on here.

    Do they need a better reason not to read him?
    Perhaps you two could just get one of your spare rooms in either one of your houses in the south of France or the south of Italy.
    Forgive our cosmopolitanism. I didn't realize it would cause you so much discomfort
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    If the rumours about Cruz are true then he is a classic example of 'power being a great aphrodisiac', most earlier rumours about a candidate's personal life seemed to concern Rubio. Unless the mainstream media picks up on it though rumours will not have a major impact
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Moses_ said:

    Roger said:

    tyson said:

    I must say Roger that Alastair Meeks article on Cameron, moreover the ungrateful group of back stabbing, disloyal swivel eyed, lunatic Tories that comprise the majority of the party, was absolutely outstanding.

    Cameron has made the Tories into an electoral force, against all the odds, and in doing so has marginalised Labour and the LD's. And what does he get in return from his lot. A whole heap of crap.

    It is little surprise that Meek's articles piss off the head banging pbCOM Tories.

    Roger said:

    MTimT said:

    One of the news sources that does not matter is Alastair Meeks on anything to do with the EU referendum.

    Bring back anti frank. I liked him well enough.

    Blessed is the Meek for he shall inherit the earth.

    (Ignore the Philistines)
    Hi Tyson. I agree. One of the most informed and interesting commentators on here.

    Do they need a better reason not to read him?
    Perhaps you two could just get one of your spare rooms in either one of your houses in the south of France or the south of Italy.
    They will have to hurry up.
    All foreign travel, we're constantly being told on here, will be impossible after Brexit.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699

    Fastest way to hold the Conservative party would be this move by Cameron. To embrace the VOTE LEAVE kippers that Farage is isolating. Cameron can still campaign for REMAIN, but will look like a big man if he brought back Carswell, Evans and O'Flynn etc.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/12204198/Ukip-is-a-party-with-no-future.-Suzanne-Evans-should-join-the-Tories.html

    Why should the Conservatives want to take back Suzanne Evans , a useless politician who got 2,200 odd votes in her ward standing as a Conservative and 300 odd standing for UKIP ?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. M, I wouldn't worry about foreign travel. We'll all be dead of plague within a day of voting to Leave ;)
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Laughing so hard now

    Donald Trump
    Wow, just released that $67 million in negative ads was spent on me. How am I still number one - by a lot?
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    edited March 2016

    Not anymore

    America Elects
    Wisconsin poll:

    Cruz 36%
    Trump 31%
    Kasich 21%

    (via Basswood Research)

    Trump can be had at better than evens on Betfair, if you are confident of the effect this will have.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    For in-depth news a broadsheet is still better than TV, although not necessarily a tabloid, internet news also tends to be more detailed
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    Not anymore

    America Elects
    Wisconsin poll:

    Cruz 36%
    Trump 31%
    Kasich 21%

    (via Basswood Research)

    Peak Cruz.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,004
    HYUFD said:

    For in-depth news a broadsheet is still better than TV, although not necessarily a tabloid, internet news also tends to be more detailed

    True. I've been predicting for a while that daily hard-copy newspapers will die a death before long. They're proving more stubborn than I expected but I still think that the natural endpoint is that immediate news will all move on line, to be reported on in close to real time, while in-depth writing will still have a place on paper but will tend to move to weekly publications.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Mr. M, I wouldn't worry about foreign travel. We'll all be dead of plague within a day of voting to Leave ;)

    Or driven mad by the sounds of the EU visa-less Roger and Tyson shagging noisily in the deserted closed down and obsolete international departure lounge at Heathrow.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,312
    edited March 2016
    " 59% of the viewing public think that BBC TV is trustworthy and 41% say it helps them make their minds up. The Mail newspapers tally 41% trustworthiness among their own readers and 37% of their own readers say that they help them make their minds up. The figures for the Sun are still worse: 23% for both measures among their own readers. Only the Guardian and the Observer are more trusted by their own readers than the BBC is trusted by its viewers."

    This makes a lot of sense. As PM Hacker once said "the Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country". It really doesn't surprise me that those that read the Guardian are contented with what they are being fed.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    edited March 2016
    ICM's turnout weighted EU referendum figures have the UK backing Remain 45% to 43% but England backing Leave 45% to 44%
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Roger said:

    I wonder whether the rapidly declining readership in the popular press is linked to how little they are trusted even by their own readership. Why read badly written fiction? (SeanT excepted of course)

    Particularly while there are sites like this that provide a variety of opinion on every subject.

    The poster formerly known as Antifrank for example.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Cruz wants a flat tax with no exemptions, which I guess means a postcard stating how much you earned last year might suffice.

    Cruz is from the Tea Party bonkers wing of the GOP and believes in the Laffer curve we used to see promoted on pb from time to time. At best, the Establishment sees Cruz as the lesser of two evils (sorry, Kasich: your cause is noble) but he is not part of it.

    I watched one debate where he reckoned that a postcard would replace tax returns.

    I was WTF are you On?!?

    Cruz - Abolish the IRS...and they say Trump policies are bonkers...

  • GeoffM said:

    Mr. M, I wouldn't worry about foreign travel. We'll all be dead of plague within a day of voting to Leave ;)

    Or driven mad by the sounds of the EU visa-less Roger and Tyson shagging noisily in the deserted closed down and obsolete international departure lounge at Heathrow.
    On the 24th there will be a crew in a van outside Heathrow ready to install a sign which says 'Twinned with Nicosia International Airport'
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756
    Two comments I've seen about Lyin' Ted.

    "Is it wrong of me that when I saw the words "Ted Cruz sex scandal" I hoped it would involve another man?"

    "How on earth can Lyin' Ted persuade more than one woman to sleep with him?"
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    47% are 10/10 certain to vote in EU ref, 10% 9/10, 7% 8/10 and 4% 7/10
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Kaboom

    @CNN Adriana Cohen with the direct hit. #cruzsexscandal WOW! @amandacarpenter https://t.co/h2qSqFl0I9
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736

    HYUFD said:

    For in-depth news a broadsheet is still better than TV, although not necessarily a tabloid, internet news also tends to be more detailed

    True. I've been predicting for a while that daily hard-copy newspapers will die a death before long. They're proving more stubborn than I expected but I still think that the natural endpoint is that immediate news will all move on line, to be reported on in close to real time, while in-depth writing will still have a place on paper but will tend to move to weekly publications.
    Probably, there will always be a place for high-quality writing
  • Fastest way to hold the Conservative party would be this move by Cameron. To embrace the VOTE LEAVE kippers that Farage is isolating. Cameron can still campaign for REMAIN, but will look like a big man if he brought back Carswell, Evans and O'Flynn etc.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/12204198/Ukip-is-a-party-with-no-future.-Suzanne-Evans-should-join-the-Tories.html

    Why should the Conservatives want to take back Suzanne Evans , a useless politician who got 2,200 odd votes in her ward standing as a Conservative and 300 odd standing for UKIP ?
    I am comfortable that a Lib Dem does not understand her impact nationally.
    She would bring more votes than Farron has added to the LDs.
    More importantly are we facing 1 LD rep for each of Wales, Scotland and London at the May elections?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554

    Kaboom

    @CNN Adriana Cohen with the direct hit. #cruzsexscandal WOW! @amandacarpenter https://t.co/h2qSqFl0I9

    Blink blink blink blink....like the bloke out of the Thick of it.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341

    HYUFD said:

    For in-depth news a broadsheet is still better than TV, although not necessarily a tabloid, internet news also tends to be more detailed

    True. I've been predicting for a while that daily hard-copy newspapers will die a death before long. They're proving more stubborn than I expected but I still think that the natural endpoint is that immediate news will all move on line, to be reported on in close to real time, while in-depth writing will still have a place on paper but will tend to move to weekly publications.
    The process of scrolling down is off-putting online, and that's without the increasing intrusion of advertising.

    Lengthy pieces are best delivered in print. The screen needs deployment of high quality graphical representation and video.


  • Mr. Betting, unsure whether it would be wise to allow Carswell to return. If people think defection's a burnt bridge, rather than merely a singed one, they're less likely to do it.
    Getting Evans for the blues would be wise.

    Be magnanimous with Carswell - it would win a lot of kipper votes.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    Think just seen the worse meme for this....with talk in regards his #Cruzmissile
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    HYUFD said:

    47% are 10/10 certain to vote in EU ref, 10% 9/10, 7% 8/10 and 4% 7/10

    Looking at the raw numbers

    Leave wins on 47% turnout.
    Neck and neck on 57% turnout (GE turnout minus 7/8% - a repeat of 1975)
    Remain wins on 65% turnout (GE turnout)
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. Betting, that's a legitimate counter-argument. I suppose it depends whether the view is UKIP's dying, or just dormant and ready to be resurgent once Farage buggers off. If he ever does.
  • Think just seen the worse meme for this....with talk in regards his #Cruzmissile

    I will now be ordering a pint of mind bleach in the pub this evening.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756
    edited March 2016
    Well, I think that's the end of Cruz's campaign, and probably of his political career.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited March 2016

    Think just seen the worse meme for this....with talk in regards his #Cruzmissile

    I will now be ordering a pint of mind bleach in the pub this evening.
    It gets worse....this is an actual tweet from one of the ladies in question...The liberal comedy political shows are going to have an easy week this week with putting together material..

    https://twitter.com/amandacarpenter/status/697065582580121600
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    How long til Cruz does Jimmy?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWkVa-_sd24
  • Mr. Betting, that's a legitimate counter-argument. I suppose it depends whether the view is UKIP's dying, or just dormant and ready to be resurgent once Farage buggers off. If he ever does.

    Farage has decided to put himself before the party and before the referendum. So be it.
  • Plato, Jimmy Swaggart priceless.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,999

    Mr. Betting, unsure whether it would be wise to allow Carswell to return. If people think defection's a burnt bridge, rather than merely a singed one, they're less likely to do it.
    Getting Evans for the blues would be wise.

    Be magnanimous with Carswell - it would win a lot of kipper votes.
    I think the Conservatives would accept Carswell back, at least under some circumstances. I'm not so sure they'd accept TBD back though.

    The question is why Carswell would want to go back: he has much more power and influence as UKIP's only MP than he would have as one of a few hundred Conservative MPs. And a return may neuter him somewhat.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,942
    The only question now is whether Trump will try to KO Kasich, or offer him VP.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Who gotcha'd Swaggart? That was a hoot at the time.

    If I'm reading things right, the same journalist who outed Edwards is behind Cruz expose.

    Plato, Jimmy Swaggart priceless.

  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756
    Plato:-

    Hopefully, the Sun will repeat its headline:-

    "I let my wife down. I let my family down. " And, he's let his trousers down.
  • Mr. Betting, unsure whether it would be wise to allow Carswell to return. If people think defection's a burnt bridge, rather than merely a singed one, they're less likely to do it.
    Getting Evans for the blues would be wise.

    Be magnanimous with Carswell - it would win a lot of kipper votes.
    I think the Conservatives would accept Carswell back, at least under some circumstances. I'm not so sure they'd accept TBD back though.

    The question is why Carswell would want to go back: he has much more power and influence as UKIP's only MP than he would have as one of a few hundred Conservative MPs. And a return may neuter him somewhat.
    He would be part of the group that will run the party with the new Leader, eventually. With Osborne out of the picture.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    GeoffM said:

    Mr. M, I wouldn't worry about foreign travel. We'll all be dead of plague within a day of voting to Leave ;)

    Or driven mad by the sounds of the EU visa-less Roger and Tyson shagging noisily in the deserted closed down and obsolete international departure lounge at Heathrow.
    On the 24th there will be a crew in a van outside Heathrow ready to install a sign which says 'Twinned with Nicosia International Airport'
    Indeed. After Brexit Heathrow T5 departures will no doubt look like Pyongyang International :lol:

    https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8367/8552849255_4053583508_b.jpg
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    :lol:
    Sean_F said:

    Plato:-

    Hopefully, the Sun will repeat its headline:-

    "I let my wife down. I let my family down. " And, he's let his trousers down.

  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Claps

    GeoffM said:

    Mr. M, I wouldn't worry about foreign travel. We'll all be dead of plague within a day of voting to Leave ;)

    Or driven mad by the sounds of the EU visa-less Roger and Tyson shagging noisily in the deserted closed down and obsolete international departure lounge at Heathrow.
    On the 24th there will be a crew in a van outside Heathrow ready to install a sign which says 'Twinned with Nicosia International Airport'
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Drudge has finally woken up

    Drudge Report News

    REPORT: #Cruz Silent on #NationalEnquirer #sex scandal claims http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7027680/Shocking-claims-Ted-Cruz-had-extramarital-affairs-with-FIVE-women.html
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,999

    Mr. Betting, unsure whether it would be wise to allow Carswell to return. If people think defection's a burnt bridge, rather than merely a singed one, they're less likely to do it.
    Getting Evans for the blues would be wise.

    Be magnanimous with Carswell - it would win a lot of kipper votes.
    I think the Conservatives would accept Carswell back, at least under some circumstances. I'm not so sure they'd accept TBD back though.

    The question is why Carswell would want to go back: he has much more power and influence as UKIP's only MP than he would have as one of a few hundred Conservative MPs. And a return may neuter him somewhat.
    He would be part of the group that will run the party with the new Leader, eventually. With Osborne out of the picture.
    That's assuming leave wins.

    Besides, I'm not sure how much he will be trusted because of, or forgiven for, moving to UKIP.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,999
    Sean_F said:

    Plato:-

    Hopefully, the Sun will repeat its headline:-

    "I let my wife down. I let my family down. " And, he's let his trousers down.

    I think Spitting Image did a sketch about Paddy Pantsdown relating to his affair and his attempted positioning of the party: "I touched neither her left leg, nor her right leg, but somewhere in between."
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    edited March 2016
    You'd have thought terrorism exploding across Europe and Cruz being caught with his pants down would boost Trump (And bury Ted), but I'm taking nothing for granted this GOP race !
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    PaladinCornelia

    So...should we call this the #CubanMistressCrisis?
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Carswell could probably only re-rat if UKIP breaks up.

    Not sure his electorate would be that happy in other circs. Not been to Clacton though - do any Tory activists have any experience of it?
  • Pulpstar said:

    You'd have thought terrorism exploding across Europe and Cruz being caught with his pants down would boost Trump (And bury Ted), but I'm taking nothing for granted this GOP race !

    There's been very little movement on Betfair today considering all the excitement.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    edited March 2016
    Ben Stanton
    Yes finally hit Yahoo! #CruzSexScandal
    ttps://twitter.com/BenStanton77/status/713411884980916224/photo/1

    Anthony Cumia Verified account
    Well, #Cruz just acknowledged the Nat Enq story. Here we go.
    Press can now run with it.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    PaladinCornelia

    So...should we call this the #CubanMistressCrisis?

    That's actually very good.... :lol:
  • PaladinCornelia

    So...should we call this the #CubanMistressCrisis?

    Can we have the like button back please.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554

    Ben Stanton
    Yes finally hit Yahoo! #CruzSexScandal
    ttps://twitter.com/BenStanton77/status/713411884980916224/photo/1

    Anthony Cumia Verified account
    Well, #Cruz just acknowledged the Nat Enq story. Here we go.
    Press can now run with it.

    Given a women has just screamed it on CNN, I think that train has already left the station.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736
    chestnut said:

    HYUFD said:

    47% are 10/10 certain to vote in EU ref, 10% 9/10, 7% 8/10 and 4% 7/10

    Looking at the raw numbers

    Leave wins on 47% turnout.
    Neck and neck on 57% turnout (GE turnout minus 7/8% - a repeat of 1975)
    Remain wins on 65% turnout (GE turnout)
    Most likely it will be between 57% and 65% most interesting fact of the turnout weighted figure is that England narrowly would vote Leave but the UK Remain
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    VaughnHillyard

    NEW: Cruz denies National Inquirer story about alleged infidelities. Calls them "complete & utter lies" and "tabloid smear."
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Cruz has inched out to 8 on betfair
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Alistair said:

    Cruz has inched out to 8 on betfair

    Has he got big hands??
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Alistair said:

    Cruz has inched out to 8 on betfair

    Ye-es, but has done that on other days recently.

    Still favourite in the Wisconsin market.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    I think of all the Republican nom charts on bet fair Bush's is by far the funniest
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Alistair said:

    I think of all the Republican nom charts on bet fair Bush's is by far the funniest

    Yes!
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Wanderer said:

    Alistair said:

    Cruz has inched out to 8 on betfair

    Ye-es, but has done that on other days recently.

    Still favourite in the Wisconsin market.
    I lumped more on Trump at 1.43 earlier today and he is down to 1.4, an insignificant move.

    Not the dramatic moves I was expecting.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554

    Alistair said:

    Cruz has inched out to 8 on betfair

    Has he got big hands??
    No wonder he is so popular with the ladies...allegedly...allegedly...
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    VaughnHillyard

    NEW: Cruz denies National Inquirer story about alleged infidelities. Calls them "complete & utter lies" and "tabloid smear."

    Doubles down. Interesting. Very, very interesting.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,587

    The only question now is whether Trump will try to KO Kasich, or offer him VP.

    Kasich has flatly ruled out being VP to either Trump or Cruz.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756
    I suppose Cruz has followed Casino Royale's example, and laid as much Bush as possible.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,347

    VaughnHillyard

    NEW: Cruz denies National Inquirer story about alleged infidelities. Calls them "complete & utter lies" and "tabloid smear."

    Massive hostage to fortune now if he has done it, all it needs is one of the women to confirm it and hey presto, not only is he a cheater, he is a liar, confirming Trump's lyin' Ted nickname.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    :smiley:

    What I've enjoyed most are the NE's deliberately limp attempts to conceal the identities of the ladies involved. They've used promo shots for several with a black bar across their eyes like a 70s porn expose.
    Sean_F said:

    I suppose Cruz has followed Casino Royale's example, and laid as much Bush as possible.

  • LadyBucketLadyBucket Posts: 590

    Fastest way to hold the Conservative party would be this move by Cameron. To embrace the VOTE LEAVE kippers that Farage is isolating. Cameron can still campaign for REMAIN, but will look like a big man if he brought back Carswell, Evans and O'Flynn etc.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/12204198/Ukip-is-a-party-with-no-future.-Suzanne-Evans-should-join-the-Tories.html

    Why should the Conservatives want to take back Suzanne Evans , a useless politician who got 2,200 odd votes in her ward standing as a Conservative and 300 odd standing for UKIP ?
    I am comfortable that a Lib Dem does not understand her impact nationally.
    She would bring more votes than Farron has added to the LDs.
    More importantly are we facing 1 LD rep for each of Wales, Scotland and London at the May elections?
    I seem to remember that Iain Dale asked Suzanne Evans whether she had considered going back to the conservatives, she replied that she had already been asked and said no. She wouldn't reveal who had asked her but give it time!!

  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Alistair said:

    Wanderer said:

    Alistair said:

    Cruz has inched out to 8 on betfair

    Ye-es, but has done that on other days recently.

    Still favourite in the Wisconsin market.
    I lumped more on Trump at 1.43 earlier today and he is down to 1.4, an insignificant move.

    Not the dramatic moves I was expecting.
    Same here and yes, disappointing results so far.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    MaxPB said:

    VaughnHillyard

    NEW: Cruz denies National Inquirer story about alleged infidelities. Calls them "complete & utter lies" and "tabloid smear."

    Massive hostage to fortune now if he has done it, all it needs is one of the women to confirm it and hey presto, not only is he a cheater, he is a liar, confirming Trump's lyin' Ted nickname.
    Can you just imagine the additional scandal if they also don't bother to clean behind the fridge.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    A journo has already said he knew two were involved. Rubio knew it too. Its a mess.

    I give Cruz until Monday at the latest.
    MaxPB said:

    VaughnHillyard

    NEW: Cruz denies National Inquirer story about alleged infidelities. Calls them "complete & utter lies" and "tabloid smear."

    Massive hostage to fortune now if he has done it, all it needs is one of the women to confirm it and hey presto, not only is he a cheater, he is a liar, confirming Trump's lyin' Ted nickname.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,587

    The odd thing is #CruzSexScandal is no longer trending in the US on Twitter....it was number 1 a couple of hours ago.....
    Supposedly Twitter has deleted/banned the hashtag. But it's hard to disentangle fact from fiction in the social media world. I'm reserving judgment on the Cruz story too (though frankly the number of women he's slept with is the least of the worries we might have about him).
    Don't the blackmail opportunities worry you ?
    I suppose so, but Clinton carried on as President regardless. Can't he just say yes, I was a sinner, but I've prayed and seen the light? Though he seems to have gone the flat denial route instead - which might work (or even be true), since the Enquirer is not seen as a reliable source. It depends whether the women concerned are willing to provide chapter and verse.

    Incidentally, I don't think there have ever been rumours of infidelity at the top in Britain since the war apart from Major, have there? The general impression is that PMs are just too busy to have affairs.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited March 2016

    The odd thing is #CruzSexScandal is no longer trending in the US on Twitter....it was number 1 a couple of hours ago.....
    Supposedly Twitter has deleted/banned the hashtag. But it's hard to disentangle fact from fiction in the social media world. I'm reserving judgment on the Cruz story too (though frankly the number of women he's slept with is the least of the worries we might have about him).
    Don't the blackmail opportunities worry you ?
    I suppose so, but Clinton carried on as President regardless. Can't he just say yes, I was a sinner, but I've prayed and seen the light? Though he seems to have gone the flat denial route instead - which might work (or even be true), since the Enquirer is not seen as a reliable source. It depends whether the women concerned are willing to provide chapter and verse.

    Incidentally, I don't think there have ever been rumours of infidelity at the top in Britain since the war apart from Major, have there? The general impression is that PMs are just too busy to have affairs.
    The point is, it isn't just NE...mainstream journos are now saying yes we know / knew of x of these. Also you dismiss NE too easily, they have broken a whole load of big stories which have been 100% accurate. Tiger Woods for one.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    One of the named women has flaty denied the story. NE is going to have to pony up evidence soon.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756
    Wasn't Tony Blair meant to be having an affair with Wendy Deng?
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Sean_F said:

    Plato:-

    Hopefully, the Sun will repeat its headline:-

    "I let my wife down. I let my family down. " And, he's let his trousers down.

    Chortle .. :smile:
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    The odd thing is #CruzSexScandal is no longer trending in the US on Twitter....it was number 1 a couple of hours ago.....
    Supposedly Twitter has deleted/banned the hashtag. But it's hard to disentangle fact from fiction in the social media world. I'm reserving judgment on the Cruz story too (though frankly the number of women he's slept with is the least of the worries we might have about him).
    Don't the blackmail opportunities worry you ?
    I suppose so, but Clinton carried on as President regardless. Can't he just say yes, I was a sinner, but I've prayed and seen the light? Though he seems to have gone the flat denial route instead - which might work (or even be true), since the Enquirer is not seen as a reliable source. It depends whether the women concerned are willing to provide chapter and verse.

    Incidentally, I don't think there have ever been rumours of infidelity at the top in Britain since the war apart from Major, have there? The general impression is that PMs are just too busy to have affairs.
    If only Hugh Gaitskell had lived.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    The odd thing is #CruzSexScandal is no longer trending in the US on Twitter....it was number 1 a couple of hours ago.....
    Supposedly Twitter has deleted/banned the hashtag. But it's hard to disentangle fact from fiction in the social media world. I'm reserving judgment on the Cruz story too (though frankly the number of women he's slept with is the least of the worries we might have about him).
    Don't the blackmail opportunities worry you ?
    I suppose so, but Clinton carried on as President regardless. Can't he just say yes, I was a sinner, but I've prayed and seen the light? Though he seems to have gone the flat denial route instead - which might work (or even be true), since the Enquirer is not seen as a reliable source. It depends whether the women concerned are willing to provide chapter and verse.

    Incidentally, I don't think there have ever been rumours of infidelity at the top in Britain since the war apart from Major, have there? The general impression is that PMs are just too busy to have affairs.
    There were rumours about Wilson and Marcia as I recall, and also a more recent PM being linked with the wife of a media baron...
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    As I noted upthread - the guy who broke Edwards is behind this.

    The odd thing is #CruzSexScandal is no longer trending in the US on Twitter....it was number 1 a couple of hours ago.....
    Supposedly Twitter has deleted/banned the hashtag. But it's hard to disentangle fact from fiction in the social media world. I'm reserving judgment on the Cruz story too (though frankly the number of women he's slept with is the least of the worries we might have about him).
    Don't the blackmail opportunities worry you ?
    I suppose so, but Clinton carried on as President regardless. Can't he just say yes, I was a sinner, but I've prayed and seen the light? Though he seems to have gone the flat denial route instead - which might work (or even be true), since the Enquirer is not seen as a reliable source. It depends whether the women concerned are willing to provide chapter and verse.

    Incidentally, I don't think there have ever been rumours of infidelity at the top in Britain since the war apart from Major, have there? The general impression is that PMs are just too busy to have affairs.
    The point is, it isn't just NE...mainstream journos are now saying yes we know / knew of x of these. Also you dismiss NE too easily, they have broken a whole load of big stories which have been 100% accurate. Tiger Woods for one.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,999
    edited March 2016

    The odd thing is #CruzSexScandal is no longer trending in the US on Twitter....it was number 1 a couple of hours ago.....
    Supposedly Twitter has deleted/banned the hashtag. But it's hard to disentangle fact from fiction in the social media world. I'm reserving judgment on the Cruz story too (though frankly the number of women he's slept with is the least of the worries we might have about him).
    Don't the blackmail opportunities worry you ?
    I suppose so, but Clinton carried on as President regardless. Can't he just say yes, I was a sinner, but I've prayed and seen the light? Though he seems to have gone the flat denial route instead - which might work (or even be true), since the Enquirer is not seen as a reliable source. It depends whether the women concerned are willing to provide chapter and verse.

    Incidentally, I don't think there have ever been rumours of infidelity at the top in Britain since the war apart from Major, have there? The general impression is that PMs are just too busy to have affairs.
    Wasn't the Major / Currie affair undertaken a while before he became PM? AFAICR, they decided to break it off when he accepted a role in the cabinet.

    Edit: and what about Prescott's affair (or alleged affairs) whilst deputy PM?
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    edited March 2016
    And so the avalanche begins http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3509366/Trump-aide-s-fury-100-false-claim-one-five-women-affair-Ted-Cruz.html
    The National Enquirer published a story that says investigators are looking into claims that Ted Cruz cheated with five women
    In the story the women weren't named, but Republican strategist Liz Mair - who runs an anti-Trump super PAC - identified them on Twitter
    Mair named Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pierson who pushed back saying the operative knew the allegation was false but spread the story anyway
    Mair suggested that Pierson may have 'come on' to Cruz but said it was an 'obviously false' allegation that Pierson had an affair
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Alistair said:

    Cruz has inched out to 8 on betfair

    Will he get any bigger? ...

    Oh er Missus .. :smiley:
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270
    Pulpstar said:

    Ted always puts his family and faith first...

    How small is the crowd?

    BusTed
    Is that now a Minibus, Ted?
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Sean_F said:

    I suppose Cruz has followed Casino Royale's example, and laid as much Bush as possible.

    Splutter .. :smile:
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    During the 4th century (BC), Perdiccas made numerous mistakes. One of the worst was dilly-dallying and not being sure which woman to marry, which resulted in alienating just about every one he might have wed.

    Of course, this wasn't a long term problem as his failed invasion of Egypt led his own soldiers to murder him.
  • The odd thing is #CruzSexScandal is no longer trending in the US on Twitter....it was number 1 a couple of hours ago.....
    Supposedly Twitter has deleted/banned the hashtag. But it's hard to disentangle fact from fiction in the social media world. I'm reserving judgment on the Cruz story too (though frankly the number of women he's slept with is the least of the worries we might have about him).
    Don't the blackmail opportunities worry you ?
    I suppose so, but Clinton carried on as President regardless. Can't he just say yes, I was a sinner, but I've prayed and seen the light? Though he seems to have gone the flat denial route instead - which might work (or even be true), since the Enquirer is not seen as a reliable source. It depends whether the women concerned are willing to provide chapter and verse.

    Incidentally, I don't think there have ever been rumours of infidelity at the top in Britain since the war apart from Major, have there? The general impression is that PMs are just too busy to have affairs.
    Wasn't the Major / Currie affair undertaken a while before he became PM? AFAICR, they decided to break it off when he accepted a role in the cabinet.

    Edit: and what about Prescott's affair (or alleged affairs) whilst deputy PM?
    Blair in office?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756
    Jack W,

    I reckon his chances of the nomination must now be pretty limp.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,267
    I can't help but think the GOP establishment knew this, and somehow wished to get Cruz to defeat Trump, then reveal the affairs to get rid of Cruz.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited March 2016
    Katrina Pierson is one of the name women, she says

    https://twitter.com/KatrinaPierson/status/713394980153208832

    The important thing to note is that she is a Trump spokeswoman.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Sean_F said:

    Jack W,

    I reckon his chances of the nomination must now be pretty limp.

    Trump must be cock a hoop.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,790
    If you look at other National Enquirer exclusives over the years other sources may be required to give this Cruz story serious legs, so to speak.
  • Cruz's price has shrunk into 7.6 on Betfair since his denial
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,943

    Fastest way to hold the Conservative party would be this move by Cameron. To embrace the VOTE LEAVE kippers that Farage is isolating. Cameron can still campaign for REMAIN, but will look like a big man if he brought back Carswell, Evans and O'Flynn etc.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/12204198/Ukip-is-a-party-with-no-future.-Suzanne-Evans-should-join-the-Tories.html

    Why should the Conservatives want to take back Suzanne Evans , a useless politician who got 2,200 odd votes in her ward standing as a Conservative and 300 odd standing for UKIP ?
    I am comfortable that a Lib Dem does not understand her impact nationally.
    She would bring more votes than Farron has added to the LDs.
    More importantly are we facing 1 LD rep for each of Wales, Scotland and London at the May elections?
    I think the libdems will get two or three in Scotland. They should get one of Orkney and Shetland, one of the north west Scotland top ups, and one southern list seat too.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Ashley Madison strikes again ttps://twitter.com/MickLuber/status/713420873412128768
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    http://news.groopspeak.com/breaking-washington-times-reporter-drops-bomb-on-ted-cruz-mistress-allegations-photos/
    The April 4 edition of The National Enquirer makes damaging claims about Ted Cruz in a bold, above-the-fold headline. But don’t be so quick to write it off as another silly claim by a silly tabloid. A political columnist for The Washington Times just backed up the story that Cruz had multiple extramarital affairs.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,943

    I can't help but think the GOP establishment knew this, and somehow wished to get Cruz to defeat Trump, then reveal the affairs to get rid of Cruz.

    So, you think the establishment wanted to destroy the reputation of their own party and lose a bunch of senate seats and governorships?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270
    Sean_F said:

    Jack W,

    I reckon his chances of the nomination must now be pretty limp.

    Surprised that this infidelity grenade has not been thrown with more gusto.

    So far, more of a lazy lob.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,267
    edited March 2016
    Dupe
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,267

    Sean_F said:

    Jack W,

    I reckon his chances of the nomination must now be pretty limp.

    Trump must be cock a hoop.
    Let's hope it's not just premature speculation.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. 1000, sometimes political parties can be very self-destructive.

    *cough*Corbyn*cough*
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