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That must be it. Pleased I put a bet on England just before the first wicket.Pulpstar said:
South Africa are batting first. That's all there is to it really.AndyJS said:O/T:
Bizarre odds on Betfair for the SA/Eng Test Match which has just started. For some reason South Africa are favourites with punters:
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/cricket/market/1.121959912
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/cricket/34404834
It may also be statistically correct, in terms of regression to the mean.0 -
Years ago I debated that with one of my hard left friends. I had said that it was a tragedy for Russia given how many Russians were killed by Communism.AlastairMeeks said:Martin Kettle notes this morning that we are approaching the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution. If Jeremy Corbyn is still in power in October 2017, what words do you think he will find to mark this centenary?
He said that number was fewer than the number of Russian soldiers that were saved by the Communists pulling out of World War I. So the Communist take over was a net positive for Russia.
I reckon Corbyn might use that line.
(Obviously I think that line of thinking is complete and utter bollocks)0 -
Happy Birthdaymalcolmg said:
Patrick , did not spot it , please repeat and I will be outraged. It is my birthday today so I am unlikely to be grumpy ( though a few may make me break my vow ). Was shocked to hear you lived in Holland and indulged in gay sex naked in the streets whilst taking drugs. I had you down as a pillar of society , a kind of more sophisticated Mr Mannering.Patrick said:I'm disappointed. I dropped a deliberate troll into today's thread for Malc but he hasn't bitten. Shucks.
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More sceptical about pollsters?philiph said:
It would be fun to run that poll on PB and see how the PB readership differs from the general outside world.0 -
I don't despise any part of Britain malc - just the SNP Ustashi types.malcolmg said:
It is also a prerequisite of the jackboot right wingers on here to despise parts of Britain , especially the Toom Tabards / plastic Scots.TGOHF said:
It's almost a prerequisite of the left and the Nats to despise Britain so much that any enemy of ours is somehow heroic.Richard_Tyndall said:
I am quite amazed at how many people on here - outside of the obvious Putin stooges like LondonBob and Luckyguy - are trying to defend this murder.rcs1000 said:
They killed a British citizen on British soil.blackburn63 said:
This gets better. Look, the Russuans killed one of their spies, I have no interest in how they did it or how they arrived at the conclusion.rcs1000 said:
Guard Russian spies!blackburn63 said:I can't remember who but recently somebody asked if pb had ever changed one's view on something, I have to say yes it has. I've discovered this week that our police force's role is to investigate spelling mistakes and guard Russian spies.
There's never been a better time to be a crook, no wonder our prisons are full.
The police's job is to prevent and investigate crime. Do you believe that the murder of Litvenko is not a crime?
If so, what is it that makes it not a crime?
I'm sorry if that offends you.
PS was Litivinenko the one chasing Roger Moore along that moving train?
I have heard some bat shit crazy views on this site before. But the view that - because someone is or was a spy - that it's OK for a foreign government to murder them in the UK is just staggering.
As an aside: is it only OK for the Russians to kill people on British streets, or do you extend the courtesy to the Iranians, the French, ISIS, the EU, and the Vatican?0 -
Why? Of all the people on this forum I had you down as one of the firmest Leavers.AndyJS said:I'm so much on the fence on the EU question that I'll probably end up voting Remain while simultaneously hoping that Leave wins. Or vice versa. Maybe others have similar feelings.
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Unsurprisingly the loons have little concern for the British, they seem to have a a passionate attachment to lands farther afield. Or maybe they have been recipients of largesse from our 'fellow Brits' likemalcolmg said:
British my butt MD, he was a paid patsy of the British state , as said a traitor in any normal world. Not very nice the way they topped him but working for MI5 was baiting them too far.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 63, you seem quite relaxed a British citizen was assassinated on British soil.
Was he threatening to behead Russians or bomb Russia?
Boris Berezovsky.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2013/03/24/did-boris-berezovsky-kill-himself-more-compelling-did-he-kill-forbes-editor-paul-klebnikov/#42c59f0c666b
or William Browder.
https://newrepublic.com/article/126760/fighting-putin-doesnt-make-saint
Throw a little money around and it is depressing how quickly the political/media class are at your beck and call.0 -
Nice avatar Pulpstar
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Happy birthday, Mr. G. Hope you got some nice whisky.0
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No it bloody well isn't.RobD said:Nice avatar Pulpstar
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Yours is nice tooTheScreamingEagles said:
No it bloody well isn't.RobD said:Nice avatar Pulpstar
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Sour grapes that Tories are incompetent losers in the sub regional London northern division. We have decent government for a change, just a pity that the parasitic ruling elite cannot be turfed out. Worst case is it will be different bloodsuckers hence the need for independence.TGOHF said:
I don't despise any part of Britain malc - just the SNP Ustashi types.malcolmg said:
It is also a prerequisite of the jackboot right wingers on here to despise parts of Britain , especially the Toom Tabards / plastic Scots.TGOHF said:
It's almost a prerequisite of the left and the Nats to despise Britain so much that any enemy of ours is somehow heroic.Richard_Tyndall said:
I am quite amazed at how many people on here - outside of the obvious Putin stooges like LondonBob and Luckyguy - are trying to defend this murder.rcs1000 said:
They killed a British citizen on British soil.blackburn63 said:
This gets better. Look, the Russuans killed one of their spies, I have no interest in how they did it or how they arrived at the conclusion.rcs1000 said:
Guard Russian spies!blackburn63 said:I can't remember who but recently somebody asked if pb had ever changed one's view on something, I have to say yes it has. I've discovered this week that our police force's role is to investigate spelling mistakes and guard Russian spies.
There's never been a better time to be a crook, no wonder our prisons are full.
The police's job is to prevent and investigate crime. Do you believe that the murder of Litvenko is not a crime?
If so, what is it that makes it not a crime?
I'm sorry if that offends you.
PS was Litivinenko the one chasing Roger Moore along that moving train?
I have heard some bat shit crazy views on this site before. But the view that - because someone is or was a spy - that it's OK for a foreign government to murder them in the UK is just staggering.
As an aside: is it only OK for the Russians to kill people on British streets, or do you extend the courtesy to the Iranians, the French, ISIS, the EU, and the Vatican?0 -
I used to be fanatically pro-EU until a couple of years ago, including the Euro. I still like the original ideas of the European project, it's just that they've gone off the rails recently.Casino_Royale said:
Why? Of all the people on this forum I had you down as one of the firmest Leavers.AndyJS said:I'm so much on the fence on the EU question that I'll probably end up voting Remain while simultaneously hoping that Leave wins. Or vice versa. Maybe others have similar feelings.
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Actually....we're the ones complaining about the trail of radioactive poison left across London on three occasions - its the Putin apologists who seem to be going 'meh'.....he was a spy he had it coming, whats a few alpha particles between friends....LondonBob said:
Unsurprisingly the loons have little concern for the British,malcolmg said:
British my butt MD, he was a paid patsy of the British state , as said a traitor in any normal world. Not very nice the way they topped him but working for MI5 was baiting them too far.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 63, you seem quite relaxed a British citizen was assassinated on British soil.
Was he threatening to behead Russians or bomb Russia?0 -
That would be perfectly reasonable to moan about. Even if we know such things occur, it doesn't mean you cannot complain when they do. Your logic is ridiculous and torturous in explaining why murder on British streets, in a high profile and potentially publicly dangerous way, is not something that we should worry about, because apparently we should expect the Russians to be murderin gpeople on our streets so why worry about it.blackburn63 said:
You see this is where hysteria clouds judgement. I have never said its ok for anybody to kill anybody, I'm simply poking a stick at those who are pretending to be surprised and outraged.rcs1000 said:
They killed aIS, the EU?blackburn63 said:
The man was clearly seen by the Russians as being a traitor, it seems he wanted us to protect him, I've no idea what he'd done. He would have known his life was in danger when he began double crossing Russia.
There are bad people in the world, if you don't want an umbrella up your arse on a tube station don't work for the KGB.
You lot sound like a lion tamer who moans when he gets mauled,
Murder by a foreign power on our territory is a concern no matter who they kill, particularly when they do so fairly openly apparently. That it happens in the world does not diminish that it is still something that is concerning.
And BTW, that you keep on blaming the victim does the lie to your pretence you are not defending the Russians. It shouldn't matter if he brought it on himself, if he worked for the KGB once, it was still, apparently, a public assassination in our country. But you very clearly are saying if someone betrays another country, they should expect to be killed, and if it happens on our soil when that person is now our citizen, how dare we get upset.
I have on I believe only 6-7 occasions lost my rag while posting on this site, and I really try never to directly criticise another poster (turnabout's fair play after all) but your sheer odiousness on this issue astounds me, and your twisted logic to try to explain how it is not is laughable, making hysterical comparisons then complaining people are being hysterical without any sense of irony. Criticising people for being concerned at a public murder, whoever it was of? What next, ridiculing people for crying at a funeral? People are all going to die, what are you moaning about?
The other reason I try so hard not to lose my rag is the provoker invariably regards other people getting irate as a victory for their 'reasoned' arguments, no matter how absurd or offensive they were being, but I will try to accept your no doubt shocked response to my 'hysteria' in good grace.0 -
Indeed. All of this guff about him being a spy is just a sideshow to make it look like they were assassinating an enemy of the state when in fact he was just critical of Putin so Putin ordered his murder.rcs1000 said:
They killed a British citizen on British soil.blackburn63 said:
This gets better. Look, the Russuans killed one of their spies, I have no interest in how they did it or how they arrived at the conclusion.rcs1000 said:
Guard Russian spies!blackburn63 said:I can't remember who but recently somebody asked if pb had ever changed one's view on something, I have to say yes it has. I've discovered this week that our police force's role is to investigate spelling mistakes and guard Russian spies.
There's never been a better time to be a crook, no wonder our prisons are full.
The police's job is to prevent and investigate crime. Do you believe that the murder of Litvenko is not a crime?
If so, what is it that makes it not a crime?
I'm sorry if that offends you.
PS was Litivinenko the one chasing Roger Moore along that moving train?
I have heard some bat shit crazy views on this site before. But the view that - because someone is or was a spy - that it's OK for a foreign government to murder them in the UK is just staggering.
As an aside: is it only OK for the Russians to kill people on British streets, or do you extend the courtesy to the Iranians, the French, ISIS, the EU, and the Vatican?0 -
No, I suspect PBers are not typical of the public as a whole.NickPalmer said:
More sceptical about pollsters?philiph said:
It would be fun to run that poll on PB and see how the PB readership differs from the general outside world.0 -
Mine combines the two finest flags in human history.RobD said:
Just needs The White Rose in another quadrant and it would be awesome.0 -
With me, it's very simple. When Casino Royale, and Richard Tyndall write on this board, I am a firm and committed BOOer (albeit with EFTA/EEA as the destination).AndyJS said:I'm so much on the fence on the EU question that I'll probably end up voting Remain while simultaneously hoping that Leave wins. Or vice versa. Maybe others have similar feelings.
But then when ЛондонBob and Lovinputin1983 write about how we should leave I find myself being pulled toward abstention. I physically struggle with being on the same side as the Putin propagandists.0 -
Surely at the center of the cross, heart of England and all that.TheScreamingEagles said:
Mine combines the two finest flags in human history.RobD said:
Just needs The White Rose in another quadrant and it would be awesome.0 -
Not sure really. I do think the he will demand that the US should give back that submarine they nicked in 1990 as a token gesture.AlastairMeeks said:Martin Kettle notes this morning that we are approaching the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution. If Jeremy Corbyn is still in power in October 2017, what words do you think he will find to mark this centenary?
Marko Raimius should be able to stay in the US of course given recent events for Russian defectors.0 -
I like your thinking.RobD said:
Surely at the center of the cross, heart of England and all that.TheScreamingEagles said:
Mine combines the two finest flags in human history.RobD said:
Just needs The White Rose in another quadrant and it would be awesome.0 -
Putin yesterday accused Lenin of destroying Russia and being concerned with a world revolution which they didn't need.TheScreamingEagles said:
Years ago I debated that with one of my hard left friends. I had said that it was a tragedy for Russia given how many Russians were killed by Communism.AlastairMeeks said:Martin Kettle notes this morning that we are approaching the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution. If Jeremy Corbyn is still in power in October 2017, what words do you think he will find to mark this centenary?
He said that number was fewer than the number of Russian soldiers that were saved by the Communists pulling out of World War I. So the Communist take over was a net positive for Russia.
I reckon Corbyn might use that line.
(Obviously I think that line of thinking is complete and utter bollocks)0 -
The CIA operation to grab the earlier sub was amazing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_AzorianMoses_ said:
Not sure really. I do think the he will demand that the US should give back that submarine they nicked in 1990 as a token gesture.AlastairMeeks said:Martin Kettle notes this morning that we are approaching the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution. If Jeremy Corbyn is still in power in October 2017, what words do you think he will find to mark this centenary?
Marko Raimius should be able to stay in the US of course given recent events for Russian defectors.0 -
Three times! Twice wasn't a particularly credible claim, not that poisoning someone with polonium really ever was, interesting.CarlottaVance said:
Actually....we're the ones complaining about the trail of radioactive poison left across London on three occasions - its the Putin apologists who seem to be going 'meh'.....he was a spy he had it coming, whats a few alpha particles between friends....LondonBob said:
Unsurprisingly the loons have little concern for the British,malcolmg said:
British my butt MD, he was a paid patsy of the British state , as said a traitor in any normal world. Not very nice the way they topped him but working for MI5 was baiting them too far.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 63, you seem quite relaxed a British citizen was assassinated on British soil.
Was he threatening to behead Russians or bomb Russia?
To quote from that Forbes article:
Scotland Yard might want to consider focusing its attention on how and why England has become a retirement paradise for hundreds, if not thousands, of toxic Russian gangsters. For more than a decade, many of them have abused the country’s legal system and financial markets with relative impunity.
I wouldn't hold my breath.0 -
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article4671343.eceScott_P said:Jeremy Corbyn has a personal rating of -39, the worst ever recorded. Unless Labour changes its leader, the 2020 election is already over. There is nothing to see or say. Politics has gone on holiday, on a motorbike to eastern Europe with Diane Abbott
That's a good piece by Philip Collins. He's taking the leader and economic competence ratings trump VI line.0 -
Sadly, the Glomar Explorer's going to be scrapped.Plato_Says said:The CIA operation to grab the earlier sub was amazing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian
Moses_ said:
Not sure really. I do think the he will demand that the US should give back that submarine they nicked in 1990 as a token gesture.AlastairMeeks said:Martin Kettle notes this morning that we are approaching the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution. If Jeremy Corbyn is still in power in October 2017, what words do you think he will find to mark this centenary?
Marko Raimius should be able to stay in the US of course given recent events for Russian defectors.
Hughes really was a fascinating character.0 -
I seems PB has picked up a nasty case of Putin-itis.0
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From the Phil Collins article.
Does anyone suppose that if Labour had employed Crosby that Ed Miliband would now be prime minister? The Tories could put Crispin Blunt in a room full of poppers and ask him to run the 2020 campaign. They’d still win.0 -
RCS1000 should run a Geiger counter over the server to see if it's been poisoned.FrancisUrquhart said:I seems PB has picked up a nasty case of Putin-itis.
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Happy B Malc!malcolmg said:
Patrick , did not spot it , please repeat and I will be outraged. It is my birthday today so I am unlikely to be grumpy ( though a few may make me break my vow ). Was shocked to hear you lived in Holland and indulged in gay sex naked in the streets whilst taking drugs. I had you down as a pillar of society , a kind of more sophisticated Mr Mannering.Patrick said:I'm disappointed. I dropped a deliberate troll into today's thread for Malc but he hasn't bitten. Shucks.
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No one could accuse the CIA of not thinking outside the box. Argo was another corker.JosiasJessop said:
Sadly, the Glomar Explorer's going to be scrapped.Plato_Says said:The CIA operation to grab the earlier sub was amazing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian
Moses_ said:
Not sure really. I do think the he will demand that the US should give back that submarine they nicked in 1990 as a token gesture.AlastairMeeks said:Martin Kettle notes this morning that we are approaching the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution. If Jeremy Corbyn is still in power in October 2017, what words do you think he will find to mark this centenary?
Marko Raimius should be able to stay in the US of course given recent events for Russian defectors.
Hughes really was a fascinating character.0 -
Indeed it was. I have actually seen this vessel in the US many years later while I was working over there in the offshore sector.Plato_Says said:The CIA operation to grab the earlier sub was amazing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian
Moses_ said:
Not sure really. I do think the he will demand that the US should give back that submarine they nicked in 1990 as a token gesture.AlastairMeeks said:Martin Kettle notes this morning that we are approaching the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution. If Jeremy Corbyn is still in power in October 2017, what words do you think he will find to mark this centenary?
Marko Raimius should be able to stay in the US of course given recent events for Russian defectors.0 -
That's a good piece by Philip Collins. He's taking the leader and economic competence ratings trump VI line.Wanderer said:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article4671343.eceScott_P said:Jeremy Corbyn has a personal rating of -39, the worst ever recorded. Unless Labour changes its leader, the 2020 election is already over. There is nothing to see or say. Politics has gone on holiday, on a motorbike to eastern Europe with Diane Abbott
Portillo also said last night, when discussing the GE Polls, that he should have looked at the ratings of the leaders and economic competence .. crossed my mind that #sadmanonatrain may read this site0 -
Boycott speculating that the sun is setting on Jimmy Anderson.0
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David Cameron
Trying to profit from spurious claims lodged against our brave servicemen & women is unacceptable. My statement: https://t.co/94CBPZYKTG0 -
many happy returns malcmalcolmg said:
Patrick , did not spot it , please repeat and I will be outraged. It is my birthday today so I am unlikely to be grumpy ( though a few may make me break my vow ). Was shocked to hear you lived in Holland and indulged in gay sex naked in the streets whilst taking drugs. I had you down as a pillar of society , a kind of more sophisticated Mr Mannering.Patrick said:I'm disappointed. I dropped a deliberate troll into today's thread for Malc but he hasn't bitten. Shucks.
one step closer to the pension :-)0 -
"Firm action against firms" - dear me. Good statement though, imo.Plato_Says said:David Cameron
Trying to profit from spurious claims lodged against our brave servicemen & women is unacceptable. My statement: https://t.co/94CBPZYKTG0 -
Dec 2015 borrowing at £7.5bn. Down £4.3bn compared to Dec 2014, and better than expected borrowing of £10.5bn: https://t.co/UhviuBr8JC #ons0
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Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia.0 -
Maurice Micklewhite to lead the LEAVE campaign!Theuniondivvie said:0 -
Mr. Pulpstar, a fair point, but every leader has an expiry date. Putin's not immortal, after all.0
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Can't he become PM again and carry on?Pulpstar said:
Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia.0 -
I'm gonna be stuck in Wikipedia for hours now, thanksPlato_Says said:The CIA operation to grab the earlier sub was amazing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian
Moses_ said:
Not sure really. I do think the he will demand that the US should give back that submarine they nicked in 1990 as a token gesture.AlastairMeeks said:Martin Kettle notes this morning that we are approaching the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution. If Jeremy Corbyn is still in power in October 2017, what words do you think he will find to mark this centenary?
Marko Raimius should be able to stay in the US of course given recent events for Russian defectors. 0 -
You owe me a new irony meter.Pulpstar said:Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia.0 -
At least one of the firms is going down. Solicitors stuck off etc..Wanderer said:
"Firm action against firms" - dear me. Good statement though, imo.Plato_Says said:David Cameron
Trying to profit from spurious claims lodged against our brave servicemen & women is unacceptable. My statement: https://t.co/94CBPZYKTG
Why do you think that they are giving whining press interviews about how they (the solicitors) are the real victims in all this? Whining about the "chilling effect" that this will have in this area of law....0 -
laundry capital of the world so it attracts all the dirty articlesLondonBob said:
Three times! Twice wasn't a particularly credible claim, not that poisoning someone with polonium really ever was, interesting.CarlottaVance said:
Actually....we're the ones complaining about the trail of radioactive poison left across London on three occasions - its the Putin apologists who seem to be going 'meh'.....he was a spy he had it coming, whats a few alpha particles between friends....LondonBob said:
Unsurprisingly the loons have little concern for the British,malcolmg said:
British my butt MD, he was a paid patsy of the British state , as said a traitor in any normal world. Not very nice the way they topped him but working for MI5 was baiting them too far.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 63, you seem quite relaxed a British citizen was assassinated on British soil.
Was he threatening to behead Russians or bomb Russia?
To quote from that Forbes article:
Scotland Yard might want to consider focusing its attention on how and why England has become a retirement paradise for hundreds, if not thousands, of toxic Russian gangsters. For more than a decade, many of them have abused the country’s legal system and financial markets with relative impunity.
I wouldn't hold my breath.0 -
One for the health nazis
frying vegetables is better than boiling them.
what next Mars Bars ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/12114055/Frying-vegetables-in-oil-is-healthier-than-boiling-them-and-prevents-cancer-research-shows.html0 -
If ever a "chilling effect" needed to happen...Malmesbury said:
At least one of the firms is going down. Solicitors stuck off etc..Wanderer said:
"Firm action against firms" - dear me. Good statement though, imo.Plato_Says said:David Cameron
Trying to profit from spurious claims lodged against our brave servicemen & women is unacceptable. My statement: https://t.co/94CBPZYKTG
Why do you think that they are giving whining press interviews about how they (the solicitors) are the real victims in all this? Whining about the "chilling effect" that this will have in this area of law....0 -
They're whinging because their business model is about to implode, that much is obvious. A few of them should be looking at jail time for the document shredding incident.Malmesbury said:
At least one of the firms is going down. Solicitors stuck off etc..Wanderer said:
"Firm action against firms" - dear me. Good statement though, imo.Plato_Says said:David Cameron
Trying to profit from spurious claims lodged against our brave servicemen & women is unacceptable. My statement: https://t.co/94CBPZYKTG
Why do you think that they are giving whining press interviews about how they (the solicitors) are the real victims in all this? Whining about the "chilling effect" that this will have in this area of law....0 -
Mr. Brooke, not sure I've ever fried a vegetable.
Do like roast parsnips, though.0 -
Thanks Alan, in touching distance now, plan is two years at most.Alanbrooke said:
many happy returns malcmalcolmg said:
Patrick , did not spot it , please repeat and I will be outraged. It is my birthday today so I am unlikely to be grumpy ( though a few may make me break my vow ). Was shocked to hear you lived in Holland and indulged in gay sex naked in the streets whilst taking drugs. I had you down as a pillar of society , a kind of more sophisticated Mr Mannering.Patrick said:I'm disappointed. I dropped a deliberate troll into today's thread for Malc but he hasn't bitten. Shucks.
one step closer to the pension :-)0 -
Last night I stir fried broccoli and asparagus in extra virgin olive oil for dinner and then read on the internet that I had made a horrendous fox pazAlanbrooke said:One for the health nazis
frying vegetables is better than boiling them.
what next Mars Bars ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/12114055/Frying-vegetables-in-oil-is-healthier-than-boiling-them-and-prevents-cancer-research-shows.html
This morning I find I have added years to my life and improved my eyesight, Happy Days!0 -
Love the Wiki box on Medvedev:TheScreamingEagles said:
You owe me a new irony meter.Pulpstar said:Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia.
3rd President of Russia
In office 7 May 2008 – 7 May 2012
Prime Minister Vladimir Putin
Preceded by Vladimir Putin
Succeeded by Vladimir Putin0 -
And a prerequisite of the right to claim a monopoly on patriotism.TGOHF said:
It's almost a prerequisite of the left and the Nats to despise Britain so much that any enemy of ours is somehow heroic.Richard_Tyndall said:
I am quite amazed at how many people on here - outside of the obvious Putin stooges like LondonBob and Luckyguy - are trying to defend this murder.rcs1000 said:
They killed a British citizen on British soil.blackburn63 said:
This gets better. Look, the Russuans killed one of their spies, I have no interest in how they did it or how they arrived at the conclusion.rcs1000 said:
Guard Russian spies!blackburn63 said:I can't remember who but recently somebody asked if pb had ever changed one's view on something, I have to say yes it has. I've discovered this week that our police force's role is to investigate spelling mistakes and guard Russian spies.
There's never been a better time to be a crook, no wonder our prisons are full.
The police's job is to prevent and investigate crime. Do you believe that the murder of Litvenko is not a crime?
If so, what is it that makes it not a crime?
I'm sorry if that offends you.
PS was Litivinenko the one chasing Roger Moore along that moving train?
I have heard some bat shit crazy views on this site before. But the view that - because someone is or was a spy - that it's OK for a foreign government to murder them in the UK is just staggering.
As an aside: is it only OK for the Russians to kill people on British streets, or do you extend the courtesy to the Iranians, the French, ISIS, the EU, and the Vatican?
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Thirty-five restaurants across China have been found illegally using opium poppies as a seasoning, officials have revealed.
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True, especially when they control the judiciary...malcolmg said:just a pity that the parasitic ruling elite cannot be turfed out.
@AgentP22: The message from Ms Sturgeon is clear.
Join the SNP & you can do what you want.
Normal rules don't apply. https://t.co/YTzjcVYSUA
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I thought you were allowed two consecutive terms in chargePulpstar said:Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia.0 -
Mr Dancer time to get the wok out and start experimenting. Those opium seeds could be good for you too.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Brooke, not sure I've ever fried a vegetable.
Do like roast parsnips, though.0 -
Next option will be that you should marinade them in wine/beer, that will kill you if you drink more than 1 unit, prior to frying and it will be twice as beneficialisam said:
Last night I stir fried broccoli and asparagus in extra virgin olive oil for dinner and then read on the internet that I had made a horrendous fox pazAlanbrooke said:One for the health nazis
frying vegetables is better than boiling them.
what next Mars Bars ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/12114055/Frying-vegetables-in-oil-is-healthier-than-boiling-them-and-prevents-cancer-research-shows.html
This morning I find I have added years to my life and improved my eyesight, Happy Days!0 -
It looks like PSND will peak at 81% of GDP, it has hit that twice now but not gone over it. With a big January expected (I have it pencilled in at a £13.5bn surplus) it doesn't look likely we will go above 81% net debt because nominal GDP growth should outstrip the deficit from next year with inflation normalising.0
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A summary of the UK government’s financial position #debt #borrowing https://t.co/AtuLoQynic https://t.co/EvFpP7tSiF0
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Poppy seeds are very popular in eastern European cooking.0
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Medvedev was never and never will be 'his own man' - Putin will run Russia for as long as he wants to, technicalities like the constitution mean nothing; law in Russia, like everything else is just the beginning of a discussion about what to do in any situation where ultimately the biggest thug gets his way - I don't know anybody in Russia who has ever thought Medvedev was really ever anything more than Putin's lapdog - though many will now admit to convincing themselves of his independence when he first took up the presidency - My PutMedev fridge magnet from Moscow is a pretty accurate depiction of the two kleptocratic murdering b4stardsrcs1000 said:
I thought you were allowed two consecutive terms in chargePulpstar said:Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia.0 -
The notion that Putin is not going to fiddle it so he is in charge permanently or until someone sticks him in the leg with a sharp umbrella is naive to say the least.rcs1000 said:
I thought you were allowed two consecutive terms in chargePulpstar said:Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia.
The Times is reporting that he/Russia is responsible for at least another 6 assassinations.0 -
Oh my God.
I've just found out what the Hungarian word for 'abyss' is and how it is pronounced.
Just go here and listen to the translation
https://translate.google.com/m/translate#en/hu/abyss0 -
VAT growth at just 3.5% points to a slow down in consumer spending which might be a bit worrying if it continues.0
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But not the teacher, the police or the social workers fault. They were following proceedures. That is a good thing: there is a reason why they are not allowed to exercise discretion at this stageTOPPING said:Charles said:
My point still stands: that they had proceedures to follow and it was good they followed them. It was not some outrage to civil liberties as @blackburn63 believed. I never commented on whether the spelling mistake should be sufficent to trigger the proceedures because I have no idea what the appropriate threshold should be.TOPPING said:Interesting to see the row-back and expansion by the police on the "terrorist house" incident.
Because, in shock news to some here on PB (good morning @Charles, @Plato_Says), police interviewing a family because of a seeming spelling mistake in isolation, whatever it was,
...WOULD BE RIDICULOUS.
But if you'd rather go "Yah! Boo! Sucks!" than engaged in a nuanced and sophisticated debate then knock yourself out buddy
It was reported yesterday that a 10-yr old boy wrote that he lived in a terrorist house and as a result, the school called the police who went to investigate by talking to the boy's family about it.
As reported (one perhaps spelling mistake, a police response) that was ludicrous because I am sure other measures short of calling the police could have been taken to determine whether he came from a long line of dumb terrorists, or whether it was a spelling mistake, or whether there was some other reason.
It now turns out that the police visited the house for several reasons unrelated to terrorism and they criticised the BBC for sexing up the story. Which makes much more sense.
To call the police for one isolated incident, as reported, yet which you and others here thought was entirely justified, would have been ludicrous.
Nuanced and sophisticated enough for you? Buddy.0 -
All of which makes it a good reason for politicians not to spout until the facts are clear.watford30 said:
They're whinging because their business model is about to implode, that much is obvious. A few of them should be looking at jail time for the document shredding incident.Malmesbury said:
At least one of the firms is going down. Solicitors stuck off etc..Wanderer said:
"Firm action against firms" - dear me. Good statement though, imo.Plato_Says said:David Cameron
Trying to profit from spurious claims lodged against our brave servicemen & women is unacceptable. My statement: https://t.co/94CBPZYKTG
Why do you think that they are giving whining press interviews about how they (the solicitors) are the real victims in all this? Whining about the "chilling effect" that this will have in this area of law....0 -
Max of two consecutive terms, but no max number of two consecutive termsrcs1000 said:
I thought you were allowed two consecutive terms in chargePulpstar said:Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia. 0 -
Fried potatoes? When I was a child we used to have the surplus mashed potato from the evening meal fried for breakfast next fday. Delicious with fried egg.Alanbrooke said:
Mr Dancer time to get the wok out and start experimenting. Those opium seeds could be good for you too.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Brooke, not sure I've ever fried a vegetable.
Do like roast parsnips, though.0 -
The best source of information is the PDF which can be found here:Plato_Says said:A summary of the UK government’s financial position #debt #borrowing https://t.co/AtuLoQynic https://t.co/EvFpP7tSiF
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171778_431174.pdf0 -
Conversely , you have to be very careful how you pronounce "bus" in Hungarian.TheScreamingEagles said:Oh my God.
I've just found out what the Hungarian word for 'abyss' is and how it is pronounced.
Just go here and listen to the translation
https://translate.google.com/m/translate#en/hu/abyss0 -
The facts are quite clear - solictors guilty of destroying documents, padding billing, paying witnesses vast sums of money etc. The only question is how hard they fall - stuck off, giant fines etc...flightpath01 said:
All of which makes it a good reason for politicians not to spout until the facts are clear.watford30 said:
They're whinging because their business model is about to implode, that much is obvious. A few of them should be looking at jail time for the document shredding incident.Malmesbury said:
At least one of the firms is going down. Solicitors stuck off etc..Wanderer said:
"Firm action against firms" - dear me. Good statement though, imo.Plato_Says said:David Cameron
Trying to profit from spurious claims lodged against our brave servicemen & women is unacceptable. My statement: https://t.co/94CBPZYKTG
Why do you think that they are giving whining press interviews about how they (the solicitors) are the real victims in all this? Whining about the "chilling effect" that this will have in this area of law....0 -
I once did an insider dealing investigation in Eastern Europe involving poppy seeds.AlastairMeeks said:Poppy seeds are very popular in eastern European cooking.
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That's an oversimplification. The moment when Putin and Medvedev announced that Putin would run for President again was when the scales fell from a lot of people's eyes. Nevertheless, this was all done entirely constitutionally and Medvedev did serve a full term during which he could have turned against Putin if circumstances had been different.kingbongo said:
Medvedev was never and never will be 'his own man' - Putin will run Russia for as long as he wants to, technicalities like the constitution mean nothing; law in Russia, like everything else is just the beginning of a discussion about what to do in any situation where ultimately the biggest thug gets his way - I don't know anybody in Russia who has ever thought Medvedev was really ever anything more than Putin's lapdog - though many will now admit to convincing themselves of his independence when he first took up the presidency - My PutMedev fridge magnet from Moscow is a pretty accurate depiction of the two kleptocratic murdering b4stardsrcs1000 said:
I thought you were allowed two consecutive terms in chargePulpstar said:Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia.0 -
Markets go down. Panic !
Markets head up, not a peep.
This is precisely why people leave their money in 0% savings accounts for years on end...0 -
Take off your blue specs Scott, the same elite unionists and business people/landowners are still running the country. They prevent the SNP really changing Scotland for the better. They are miffed though that the SNP have got out of control and not completely joined the club , hence the unionist panic at present.Scott_P said:
True, especially when they control the judiciary...malcolmg said:just a pity that the parasitic ruling elite cannot be turfed out.
@AgentP22: The message from Ms Sturgeon is clear.
Join the SNP & you can do what you want.
Normal rules don't apply. https://t.co/YTzjcVYSUA
The parasites are worried.0 -
LOLAlastairMeeks said:
Conversely , you have to be very careful how you pronounce "bus" in Hungarian.TheScreamingEagles said:Oh my God.
I've just found out what the Hungarian word for 'abyss' is and how it is pronounced.
Just go here and listen to the translation
https://translate.google.com/m/translate#en/hu/abyss0 -
Finally, interesting to note that the government might have the budget in balance this year excluding debt servicing costs (a primary surplus), but because debt servicing costs are so high and government investment is running at ~£25bn per year the deficit will run to 2020 on the current rate of reduction barring any slowdown or recession.0
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Correct. The nasty excuses for murder that are coming out are sickening.MaxPB said:
Indeed. All of this guff about him being a spy is just a sideshow to make it look like they were assassinating an enemy of the state when in fact he was just critical of Putin so Putin ordered his murder.rcs1000 said:
They killed a British citizen on British soil.blackburn63 said:
This gets better. Look, the Russuans killed one of their spies, I have no interest in how they did it or how they arrived at the conclusion.rcs1000 said:
Guard Russian spies!blackburn63 said:I can't remember who but recently somebody asked if pb had ever changed one's view on something, I have to say yes it has. I've discovered this week that our police force's role is to investigate spelling mistakes and guard Russian spies.
There's never been a better time to be a crook, no wonder our prisons are full.
The police's job is to prevent and investigate crime. Do you believe that the murder of Litvenko is not a crime?
If so, what is it that makes it not a crime?
I'm sorry if that offends you.
PS was Litivinenko the one chasing Roger Moore along that moving train?
I have heard some bat shit crazy views on this site before. But the view that - because someone is or was a spy - that it's OK for a foreign government to murder them in the UK is just staggering.
As an aside: is it only OK for the Russians to kill people on British streets, or do you extend the courtesy to the Iranians, the French, ISIS, the EU, and the Vatican?0 -
I am sure you will find someone new to froth and obsess about, and bore everyone else silly with it too.Pulpstar said:Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia.
I don't why but you just come across as that sort of person.0 -
The problem is that a lack of discretion doesn't help. In the baby P case, Shoesmith was appalled at being blamed. She had followed every procedure and her paperwork was impeccable. She'd even vigorously investigated the woman who'd tried to help baby P for child abuse - for shouting back at a teenager who being ranting death threats at her.Charles said:
But not the teacher, the police or the social workers fault. They were following proceedures. That is a good thing: there is a reason why they are not allowed to exercise discretion at this stageTOPPING said:Charles said:
My point still stands: that they had proceedures to follow and it was good they followed them. It was not some outrage to civil liberties as @blackburn63 believed. I never commented on whether the spelling mistake should be sufficent to trigger the proceedures because I have no idea what the appropriate threshold should be.TOPPING said:Interesting to see the row-back and expansion by the police on the "terrorist house" incident.
Because, in shock news to some here on PB (good morning @Charles, @Plato_Says), police interviewing a family because of a seeming spelling mistake in isolation, whatever it was,
...WOULD BE RIDICULOUS.
But if you'd rather go "Yah! Boo! Sucks!" than engaged in a nuanced and sophisticated debate then knock yourself out buddy
It was reported yesterday that a 10-yr old boy wrote that he lived in a terrorist house and as a result, the school called the police who went to investigate by talking to the boy's family about it.
As reported (one perhaps spelling mistake, a police response) that was ludicrous because I am sure other measures short of calling the police could have been taken to determine whether he came from a long line of dumb terrorists, or whether it was a spelling mistake, or whether there was some other reason.
It now turns out that the police visited the house for several reasons unrelated to terrorism and they criticised the BBC for sexing up the story. Which makes much more sense.
To call the police for one isolated incident, as reported, yet which you and others here thought was entirely justified, would have been ludicrous.
Nuanced and sophisticated enough for you? Buddy.0 -
Amazon has says it will take on 2,500 new permanent staff in the UK this year, bringing its total number of UK employees to 14,000.
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"government investment" is that a technical term or actual investment ?0
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How shouldn't I pronounce it ?AlastairMeeks said:
Conversely , you have to be very careful how you pronounce "bus" in Hungarian.TheScreamingEagles said:Oh my God.
I've just found out what the Hungarian word for 'abyss' is and how it is pronounced.
Just go here and listen to the translation
https://translate.google.com/m/translate#en/hu/abyss
I'm sorely tempted to start learning Hungarian now0 -
We had them made into Tattie SconesOldKingCole said:
Fried potatoes? When I was a child we used to have the surplus mashed potato from the evening meal fried for breakfast next fday. Delicious with fried egg.Alanbrooke said:
Mr Dancer time to get the wok out and start experimenting. Those opium seeds could be good for you too.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Brooke, not sure I've ever fried a vegetable.
Do like roast parsnips, though.0 -
Отвали обратно в МосквуLondonBob said:
I am sure you will find someone new to froth and obsess about, and bore everyone else silly with it too.Pulpstar said:Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia.
I don't why but you just come across as that sort of person.0 -
Hell, even the Russian press was printing cartoons of Medvedev as Putin's puppet the last time round.flightpath01 said:
The notion that Putin is not going to fiddle it so he is in charge permanently or until someone sticks him in the leg with a sharp umbrella is naive to say the least.rcs1000 said:
I thought you were allowed two consecutive terms in chargePulpstar said:Putin only has 2 more years left in charge of Russia, whereupon a new face will take charge.
Remember from 2008 - 2012, we had Dmitry Medvedev in charge - his own man and very much a fresh face for Russia.
The Times is reporting that he/Russia is responsible for at least another 6 assassinations.0 -
I find this completely baffling. I was no fan of Brown, but never would I jump to siding with our enemies as a consequence.TGOHF said:
It's almost a prerequisite of the left and the Nats to despise Britain so much that any enemy of ours is somehow heroic.Richard_Tyndall said:
I am quite amazed at how many people on here - outside of the obvious Putin stooges like LondonBob and Luckyguy - are trying to defend this murder.
They can hate the EU and Cameron as he's not a "real Conservative", but Russia remains a real threat to this country and Putin is a murderous crook, not a hero or ally.0 -
What? I thought the SNP had a majority up there?malcolmg said:
Take off your blue specs Scott, the same elite unionists and business people/landowners are still running the country. They prevent the SNP really changing Scotland for the better. They are miffed though that the SNP have got out of control and not completely joined the club , hence the unionist panic at present.Scott_P said:
True, especially when they control the judiciary...malcolmg said:just a pity that the parasitic ruling elite cannot be turfed out.
@AgentP22: The message from Ms Sturgeon is clear.
Join the SNP & you can do what you want.
Normal rules don't apply. https://t.co/YTzjcVYSUA
The parasites are worried.0 -
Martin Boon
Apol for late arrival. @ICMResearch #euref weekly tracker: Remain In 42%, Leave 40% DK 17% (51 v 49). website post of data shortly.0 -
And ultimately she got a massive payout....Malmesbury said:
The problem is that a lack of discretion doesn't help. In the baby P case, Shoesmith was appalled at being blamed. She had followed every procedure and her paperwork was impeccable. She'd even vigorously investigated the woman who'd tried to help baby P for child abuse - for shouting back at a teenager who being ranting death threats at her.Charles said:
But not the teacher, the police or the social workers fault. They were following proceedures. That is a good thing: there is a reason why they are not allowed to exercise discretion at this stageTOPPING said:Charles said:
My point still stands: that they had proceedures to follow and it was good they followed them. It was not some outrage to civil liberties as @blackburn63 believed. I never commented on whether the spelling mistake should be sufficent to trigger the proceedures because I have no idea what the appropriate threshold should be.TOPPING said:Interesting to see the row-back and expansion by the police on the "terrorist house" incident.
Because, in shock news to some here on PB (good morning @Charles, @Plato_Says), police interviewing a family because of a seeming spelling mistake in isolation, whatever it was,
...WOULD BE RIDICULOUS.
But if you'd rather go "Yah! Boo! Sucks!" than engaged in a nuanced and sophisticated debate then knock yourself out buddy
It was reported yesterday that a 10-yr old boy wrote that he lived in a terrorist house and as a result, the school called the police who went to investigate by talking to the boy's family about it.
As reported (one perhaps spelling mistake, a police response) that was ludicrous because I am sure other measures short of calling the police could have been taken to determine whether he came from a long line of dumb terrorists, or whether it was a spelling mistake, or whether there was some other reason.
It now turns out that the police visited the house for several reasons unrelated to terrorism and they criticised the BBC for sexing up the story. Which makes much more sense.
To call the police for one isolated incident, as reported, yet which you and others here thought was entirely justified, would have been ludicrous.
Nuanced and sophisticated enough for you? Buddy.0 -
Any spaghetti or other pasta which is left over can be mixed with a beaten egg and then fried to make a frittata - a sort of pasta Spanish omelette. Delicious!OldKingCole said:
Fried potatoes? When I was a child we used to have the surplus mashed potato from the evening meal fried for breakfast next fday. Delicious with fried egg.Alanbrooke said:
Mr Dancer time to get the wok out and start experimenting. Those opium seeds could be good for you too.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Brooke, not sure I've ever fried a vegetable.
Do like roast parsnips, though.
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