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Yep, that was always going to happen. The September election was a disappointment for Junts and a disaster for Mas - he must be closed to finished now. Given the variety of differences it's hard to see how Junts can stay together for another election. I would not be surprised to see ERC fight on its own, win most seats but be a long way off a majority. With this and the end of the PP's majority, we may have the Catalan separatist movement's high tide may well have passed.rcs1000 said:
Have you seen the latest from Catalonia? The CUP is refusing to back Artur Mas for regional president. This makes new elections in the province look a near certainty.SouthamObserver said:A lot of people are making the mistake of thinking that Corbynistas give a flying f*** about how the great leaders' reshuffle will be perceived by the PLP, the media or the voting public. They have no interest in winning elections, they want to control the Labour party. If the reshuffle advances that, it will be deemed a success.
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Indeed. Plenty of time for things to get even worse for Labour.TOPPING said:
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He didn't seem sure this morning...rottenborough said:Quite possible he didn't know there was going to be a reshuffle until he got back off his xmas holiday and was told one was taking place by Milne.
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@TheStaggers: Our liveblogger reacts to the news that the reshuffle could last past 10pm: https://t.co/VJQsaIiRgy https://t.co/X905eIioMP0
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When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.0 -
Labour figure adopting usual cowardly tactic of talking to the media, rather than actively opposing Corbyn.JBriskin said:0 -
The Tories will be able to save a lot of money during the 2020 election campaign. There will be no need for anything clever.Wanderer said:
I think that could be effective for the Tories. Needs not to be overplayed though. Or, rather, make sure you don't end up suggesting people outside London are yokels.Mortimer said:
For any Tory election strategists reading, some post-2016 election posters for the provincial towns and cities might want to feature the fact that Corbyn is a Londoner through and through, and his top team might very well be entirely London based. And that his concerns are generally London-centric, too.chestnut said:
And Labour's leadership is from Hackney, Islington, Brent. Edmonton etc.FrancisUrquhart said:
And given most of the media is London based, that is what they see and report on i.e. these stories of just eye watering housing benefit payments made for renting a 3 bed house in parts of London.chestnut said:
The real problem isn't private v social, it's London v The Rest of the UK.malcolmg said:Hard to believe it is only a tenner , but even so it is a lot of tenners every week.
About £1 in every £4 in housing benefit is spent on London, I believe.
They will never tackle it because it's their vote.
Social housing HB subsidies are touching £200 a week for some properties in parts of London plus management and maintenance costs.
Would work a treat in the Midlands and Welsh marginals.
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Hillarious.Scott_P said:@SunPolitics: Carswell forced to deny he plotted to kill Nigel Farage https://t.co/2MXKbQNHpw https://t.co/6757QsOVaO
1 - The accident happened in France as far as I can see. The police in question were French.
2 - Farage clearly ignored a Volvo recall notice (perhaps he is afraid of recalls)
detailed that several models, including the V70, may have been constructed improperly, leading to the possibility of wheels becoming loose and detaching.
"It has been identified that the standard wheel securing bolts may not have undergone the correct hardening process," the Driving and Vehicle Standards Agency wrote in their recall notice.
"This will result in corrosion, a noise and/or vibration. If this condition is not rectified, there is a possibility that the wheel may become loose and detach."
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/expand.asp?uniqueID=F0E0D8B14EAE38C0802577C000465F45&freeText=Blank&tx=0.1092494
Only Farage could turn this into an assassination attempt. What an arse.
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Jeremy Corbyn is starting talks with shadow cabinet members as part of a reshuffle, a Labour source has said.
The intention is for the new line-up to be announced on Tuesday, although the process could take several days.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35220413
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It is a scandal David and their should be zero tolerance. That is teh problem with this country , too many people people think it is their god given right that they are entitled to a free life for zero return. I am all for helping people but if they don't respect it then it should be stopped immediately and let them fend for themselves.DavidL said:
Not sure that is quite Nicola's style!malcolmg said:
Have to say they should be much tougher on inspections and tenants looking after the houses. It is typical of giving people something for nothing , many just abuse it rather than showing respect and appreciating their good fortune. I would be a lot tougher on the miscreants , even to putting them in tents if they cannot look after the properties properly and respectfully.DavidL said:
The problem was that the original social housing was built on the never never sustained by debt and with rents low enough to barely cover the maintenance costs so using any capital paid to repay some of that debt was logical.malcolmg said:
Biggest mistake ever was selling social housing , at worst they should at least have ploughed the proceeds into building new smaller social houses. They have to start building sensible social housing instead of just wasting ever growing amounts on private rental.DavidL said:flightpath01 said:DavidL said:Alanbrooke said:david_herdson said:
.Alanbrooke said:
But yes, we clearly need a lot more better quality social housing. The government announcement about that today was a welcome, if somewhat belated start on that.
I may say that during the referendum campaign I saw a lot of public sector housing that I normally wouldn't. The state of repair, cleanliness and facilities was deeply depressing.
PS: A bit of horse whipping or public stocks would also help.
But having neighbours who just leave junk everywhere, don't look after their garden and refuse to do their share of cleaning of the common parts must be deeply frustrating. There is a direct application of the broken window theory too. Once one starts standards can fall sharply.
The differences between the blocks in Menzieshill in Dundee which were outwardly identical had to be seen to be believed. Some had flowers, mats and were spotless. Some were getting close to dangerous, especially for younger children.0 -
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Just had an inspirational idea.Wanderer said:
I think that could be effective for the Tories. Needs not to be overplayed though. Or, rather, make sure you don't end up suggesting people outside London are yokels.Mortimer said:
For any Tory election strategists reading, some post-2016 election posters for the provincial towns and cities might want to feature the fact that Corbyn is a Londoner through and through, and his top team might very well be entirely London based. And that his concerns are generally London-centric, too.chestnut said:
And Labour's leadership is from Hackney, Islington, Brent. Edmonton etc.FrancisUrquhart said:
And given most of the media is London based, that is what they see and report on i.e. these stories of just eye watering housing benefit payments made for renting a 3 bed house in parts of London.chestnut said:
The real problem isn't private v social, it's London v The Rest of the UK.malcolmg said:Hard to believe it is only a tenner , but even so it is a lot of tenners every week.
About £1 in every £4 in housing benefit is spent on London, I believe.
They will never tackle it because it's their vote.
Social housing HB subsidies are touching £200 a week for some properties in parts of London plus management and maintenance costs.
Would work a treat in the Midlands and Welsh marginals.
Corbyn next to a passport to Pimlico scene.
Paints him as old fashioned, wrong-headed and a figure of fun in one fell swoop0 -
Tory voters and probably Tory members too when polled say they would back Remain if recommended by Cameron0
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Is there PMQs on Wednesday? Will he be done by then?FrancisUrquhart said:the process could take several days.
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I think it was the Independent that broke the news of the 'revenge reshuffle' before Christmas and if Labour’s media performance so far is anything to go by, Seumas Milne is probably yet to hear about it.rottenborough said:
Quite possible he didn't know there was going to be a reshuffle until he got back off his xmas holiday and was told one was taking place by Milne.FrancisUrquhart said:
Well if his first set of appointments is anything to go by the later.Pulpstar said:This reshuffle seems to be taking forever. Corbyn can't make a decision for his life. I'm guessing Benn has said "No".
Did Corbyn have a plan for the reshuffle or is he just making it up as he goes along ?0 -
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.-1 -
Why can't the one's at the back join in exactly?FrancisUrquhart said:Jeremy Corbyn is starting talks with shadow cabinet members as part of a reshuffle, a Labour source has said.
The intention is for the new line-up to be announced on Tuesday, although the process could take several days.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35220413
No laughing at the back....0 -
@PolhomeEditor: It's almost as if having a reshuffle before MPs return to Westminster isn't the best idea ... https://t.co/MOG1DPcQwL0
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Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.0 -
Good for the Tories as they slightly increase their election margin but very good for UKIP up 4% on MayScott_P said:@NCPoliticsUK: YouGov:
CON 39 (-2)
LAB 29 (-1)
LIB 6 (=)
UKIP 17 (+1)
GRN 3 (=)
Fieldwork 17th-18th December0 -
Am bemused by stories in MSM which could have come from The Daily Mash, e.g; Danczuk's innocent teenager allegedly accepted offers for pre-owned thongs, condoms & toe nails. Now I read on BBC News that a Scotsman is deported for making comments about horse meat.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-352209410 -
Looking at the front page of BBC website for story of Labour's attack on train fare rises, nothing. Epic fail by Milne (again) or just biased BBC?0
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''17:26: Spare a thought for people's staff, who have spent the Christmas holidays worried for their jobs, and are still waiting to hear. And also for the livebloggers. The poor, bedraggled livebloggers.''TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.
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Did Corbyn notice that there was a rail strike in Wales today?FrancisUrquhart said:Looking at the front page of BBC website for story of Labour's attack on train fare rises, nothing. Epic fail by Milne (again) or just biased BBC?
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Well I've annoyed the Corbynites.kle4 said:
Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.0 -
Takes a very long time to load...Pulpstar said:0 -
Not that surprising given just over 50% of Londoners now rent compared to only about 35% of Britons as a wholechestnut said:
The real problem isn't private v social, it's London v The Rest of the UK.malcolmg said:Hard to believe it is only a tenner , but even so it is a lot of tenners every week.
About £1 in every £4 in housing benefit is spent on London, I believe.0 -
Mas is incredibly stubborn: he should have known that he was always unacceptable to the CUP. I'm surprised he hasn't been deposed.SouthamObserver said:
Yep, that was always going to happen. The September election was a disappointment for Junts and a disaster for Mas - he must be closed to finished now. Given the variety of differences it's hard to see how Junts can stay together for another election. I would not be surprised to see ERC fight on its own, win most seats but be a long way off a majority. With this and the end of the PP's majority, we may have the Catalan separatist movement's high tide may well have passed.rcs1000 said:
Have you seen the latest from Catalonia? The CUP is refusing to back Artur Mas for regional president. This makes new elections in the province look a near certainty.SouthamObserver said:A lot of people are making the mistake of thinking that Corbynistas give a flying f*** about how the great leaders' reshuffle will be perceived by the PLP, the media or the voting public. They have no interest in winning elections, they want to control the Labour party. If the reshuffle advances that, it will be deemed a success.
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Hmm, I can see Cameron using a lengthy reshuffle as part of a avoiding answer gag.Scott_P said:
Is there PMQs on Wednesday? Will he be done by then?FrancisUrquhart said:the process could take several days.
"Why has the government consistently failed to meet target X? It takes forever"
"I'll tell you what takes forever - a Labour shadow cabinet reshuffle! I cede the remainder of my time"0 -
You have joined a very big club.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I've annoyed the Corbynites.kle4 said:
Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.0 -
Everything worked fine in London.dr_spyn said:
Did Corbyn notice that there was a rail strike in Wales today?FrancisUrquhart said:Looking at the front page of BBC website for story of Labour's attack on train fare rises, nothing. Epic fail by Milne (again) or just biased BBC?
Wow - this 'LABOUR ARE JUST LONDON' strategy would work EVEN BETTER if Khan wins the mayoralty.0 -
Yes, but they're annoyed by everything, whereas he's so reasonable, I am sure, it takes more than that.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I've annoyed the Corbynites.kle4 said:
Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.0 -
Why bother with the Tories when you can slug it out with Danczuk, eh Nick?NickPalmer said:
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.
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HMM.. I'll bet if this was one of your hard left mates being kicked out, you wouldn't be saying that.NickPalmer said:
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.
Bring on the reshuffle.. Its gonna be fun.0 -
The BBC's Central Asian service said he was being deported because of wrong documentation and not for his joke.dr_spyn said:Am bemused by stories in MSM which could have come from The Daily Mash, e.g; Danczuk's innocent teenager allegedly accepted offers for pre-owned thongs, condoms & toe nails. Now I read on BBC News that a Scotsman is deported for making comments about horse meat.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35220941
Sure he was, Kyrgyzstan, sure he was.0 -
Be careful of what you wish for. Rochdale will not elect a CorbynistaNickPalmer said:
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.0 -
They are worse than the Nats and the Kippers when you tweet polling that is bad for them.MarkHopkins said:
You have joined a very big club.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I've annoyed the Corbynites.kle4 said:
Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.
My high point was being called a member of the Zionist, Muslim hating media when I posted some polling figures that were sub-optimal for Corbyn, just before Christmas.0 -
Bring on the junior doctors strike.. It''l only need a few people to die as a result of their selfishness and they'll be as popular as journalists..
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I see comedy eoin is having a bad reshuffle then...0
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I do wonder what it is going to take for the golden boy to lose his shine with his rag-tag band of followers.TheScreamingEagles said:
They are worse than the Nats and the Kippers when you tweet polling that is bad for them.MarkHopkins said:
You have joined a very big club.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I've annoyed the Corbynites.kle4 said:
Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.
My high point was being called a member of the Zionist, Muslim hating media when I posted some polling figures that were sub-optimal for Corbyn, just before Christmas.
I wonder if losing an actual general election - almost certainly worse than Ed Miliband - might not even be enough.0 -
You are still working on the basis that people need to know you not to like you aren't you? Get with the zeitgeist.TheScreamingEagles said:
They are worse than the Nats and the Kippers when you tweet polling that is bad for them.MarkHopkins said:
You have joined a very big club.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I've annoyed the Corbynites.kle4 said:
Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.
My high point was being called a member of the Zionist, Muslim hating media when I posted some polling figures that were sub-optimal for Corbyn, just before Christmas.0 -
The Docs, for a bunch of smarties, have zero political awareness at all.SquareRoot said:Bring on the junior doctors strike.. It''l only need a few people to die as a result of their selfishness and they'll be as popular as journalists..
If you ask the average chapess on the Balham omnibus if Junior Docs should be paid more; they'd probably say yes.
But if you then told them how 'Junior' means all below consultant - And that they're tutition was heavily NHS subsidised. And that many of them are threatening to leave. And that they're planning to strike during winter - the sympathy wouldn't last long.0 -
But Danczuk will probably be defeated and that is what matters. A beaten Blairite is far better than a Labour government as far as the Corbynistas are concerned.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Be careful of what you wish for. Rochdale will not elect a CorbynistaNickPalmer said:
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.
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Did their heads explode when confronted with the reality?TheScreamingEagles said:
They are worse than the Nats and the Kippers when you tweet polling that is bad for them.MarkHopkins said:
You have joined a very big club.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I've annoyed the Corbynites.kle4 said:
Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.
My high point was being called a member of the Zionist, Muslim hating media when I posted some polling figures that were sub-optimal for Corbyn, just before Christmas.0 -
Of course they have. They share it : with all the other Labour moderates..malcolmg said:0 -
May I join this rapidly expanding group - he is perhaps the biggest tool in the labour box since that scottish mp incriminated himself on C4 news during the expenses crisis. A hugely impressive level of cretindom.FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
I think I need to do a thread on the fervour of Corbynites.DavidL said:
You are still working on the basis that people need to know you not to like you aren't you? Get with the zeitgeist.TheScreamingEagles said:
They are worse than the Nats and the Kippers when you tweet polling that is bad for them.MarkHopkins said:
You have joined a very big club.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I've annoyed the Corbynites.kle4 said:
Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.
My high point was being called a member of the Zionist, Muslim hating media when I posted some polling figures that were sub-optimal for Corbyn, just before Christmas.0 -
Even the Titanic had survivors...SquareRoot said:Rearrange these words
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He controls Convergencia absolutely. But ERC will surely walk away.rcs1000 said:
Mas is incredibly stubborn: he should have known that he was always unacceptable to the CUP. I'm surprised he hasn't been deposed.SouthamObserver said:
Yep, that was always going to happen. The September election was a disappointment for Junts and a disaster for Mas - he must be closed to finished now. Given the variety of differences it's hard to see how Junts can stay together for another election. I would not be surprised to see ERC fight on its own, win most seats but be a long way off a majority. With this and the end of the PP's majority, we may have the Catalan separatist movement's high tide may well have passed.rcs1000 said:
Have you seen the latest from Catalonia? The CUP is refusing to back Artur Mas for regional president. This makes new elections in the province look a near certainty.SouthamObserver said:A lot of people are making the mistake of thinking that Corbynistas give a flying f*** about how the great leaders' reshuffle will be perceived by the PLP, the media or the voting public. They have no interest in winning elections, they want to control the Labour party. If the reshuffle advances that, it will be deemed a success.
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Ask NPXMP2TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I need to do a thread on the fervour of Corbynites.DavidL said:
You are still working on the basis that people need to know you not to like you aren't you? Get with the zeitgeist.TheScreamingEagles said:
They are worse than the Nats and the Kippers when you tweet polling that is bad for them.MarkHopkins said:
You have joined a very big club.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I've annoyed the Corbynites.kle4 said:
Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.
My high point was being called a member of the Zionist, Muslim hating media when I posted some polling figures that were sub-optimal for Corbyn, just before Christmas.0 -
No. They say the polls were wrong in May, so they must be wrong now.MarqueeMark said:
Did their heads explode when confronted with the reality?TheScreamingEagles said:
They are worse than the Nats and the Kippers when you tweet polling that is bad for them.MarkHopkins said:
You have joined a very big club.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I've annoyed the Corbynites.kle4 said:
Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.
My high point was being called a member of the Zionist, Muslim hating media when I posted some polling figures that were sub-optimal for Corbyn, just before Christmas.
I don't have the heart to point out in which direction they were wrong in May.0 -
I think a Rochdale by-election of:Big_G_NorthWales said:
Be careful of what you wish for. Rochdale will not elect a CorbynistaNickPalmer said:
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.
Lab vs Danczuk vs UKIP could be fascinating
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And no-one will blame the government on the one and only issue on which Labour still leads.SquareRoot said:Bring on the junior doctors strike.. It''l only need a few people to die as a result of their selfishness and they'll be as popular as journalists..
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Is 2016 the year Chilcott FINALLY runs out of excuses for not publishing?Pulpstar said:0 -
If they see Mas as a handicap (which he surely is now), then I think they must.SouthamObserver said:
He controls Convergencia absolutely. But ERC will surely walk away.rcs1000 said:
Mas is incredibly stubborn: he should have known that he was always unacceptable to the CUP. I'm surprised he hasn't been deposed.SouthamObserver said:
Yep, that was always going to happen. The September election was a disappointment for Junts and a disaster for Mas - he must be closed to finished now. Given the variety of differences it's hard to see how Junts can stay together for another election. I would not be surprised to see ERC fight on its own, win most seats but be a long way off a majority. With this and the end of the PP's majority, we may have the Catalan separatist movement's high tide may well have passed.rcs1000 said:
Have you seen the latest from Catalonia? The CUP is refusing to back Artur Mas for regional president. This makes new elections in the province look a near certainty.SouthamObserver said:A lot of people are making the mistake of thinking that Corbynistas give a flying f*** about how the great leaders' reshuffle will be perceived by the PLP, the media or the voting public. They have no interest in winning elections, they want to control the Labour party. If the reshuffle advances that, it will be deemed a success.
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The Telegraph is giving up:
"17.50
Silence descends
All quiet on the reshuffle front. Presumption is Corbyn and his team are putting in calls to those affected – but all the indications are this could go late into the night.
And, possibly, with no announcements until tomorrow. Happy New Year."
I would call them wimps but I am away for my tea myself...
Laters.
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I think the iceberg had better prospects than Labour...Sunil_Prasannan said:
Even the Titanic had survivors...SquareRoot said:Rearrange these words
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#reshuffle & Barry Gardiner trending in UK. Just in case anyone still thinks Twitter is a guide to what the actual world is interested in.0
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You've got it all wrong.TheScreamingEagles said:
No. They say the polls were wrong in May, so they must be wrong now.MarqueeMark said:
Did their heads explode when confronted with the reality?TheScreamingEagles said:
They are worse than the Nats and the Kippers when you tweet polling that is bad for them.MarkHopkins said:
You have joined a very big club.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I've annoyed the Corbynites.kle4 said:
Maybe it's deliberate - have you done anything to annoy Mr Corbyn?TheScreamingEagles said:When Jez first appointed his Shadow Cabinet in September I was editing PB.
It started at 7.30pm and I had planned to go bed around 10.30pm. I was still up at 2am covering it.
My high point was being called a member of the Zionist, Muslim hating media when I posted some polling figures that were sub-optimal for Corbyn, just before Christmas.
I don't have the heart to point out in which direction they were wrong in May.
EdM lost because he was too much of a Tory.
And the electorate doesn't like Tories.
Oh, wait...
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Are you hoping for the Rochdale nomination Nick?NickPalmer said:
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.0 -
The Corbynites would say it was a terrible night for the iceberg. Smashed into million pieces.MarqueeMark said:
I think the iceberg had better prospects than Labour...Sunil_Prasannan said:
Even the Titanic had survivors...SquareRoot said:Rearrange these words
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Socialist MediaTheScreamingEagles said:#reshuffle & Barry Gardiner trending in UK. Just in case anyone still thinks Twitter is a guide to what the actual world is interested in.
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The sad part is that you are right. Labour are lost not only because they will not recover in Scotland but the nature of the left wing London elite poised to run Labour will see the rest of the UK finish them offSouthamObserver said:
But Danczuk will probably be defeated and that is what matters. A beaten Blairite is far better than a Labour government as far as the Corbynistas are concerned.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Be careful of what you wish for. Rochdale will not elect a CorbynistaNickPalmer said:
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.0 -
Wheels fall off Farage 'assassination plot' story after recall revelation
Volvo V70 model owned by Ukip leader, who suggested his car had been tampered with, was recalled in 2010 over wheel problems
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/04/wheels-fall-off-farage-assassination-plot-story-recall-revelation?CMP=twt_a-politics_b-gdnukpolitics0 -
Who will publish first Chilcott or the author of Game of Thrones?MarqueeMark said:
Is 2016 the year Chilcott FINALLY runs out of excuses for not publishing?Pulpstar said:0 -
If it is anything like today there will be a pointless exercise planned by Labour HQ to coincide with it. Unveiling of a new clause 4, or some such nonsense.DecrepitJohnL said:
And no-one will blame the government on the one and only issue on which Labour still leads.SquareRoot said:Bring on the junior doctors strike.. It''l only need a few people to die as a result of their selfishness and they'll be as popular as journalists..
If I were head of the Union through which Welsh train staff were striking today, I would be in the phone to GO to see if he fancied the funding from them. Corbo obviously has no need for it.0 -
if someone dies because the Doctors striking , I know who i'll blame .and it won't be the Govt.DecrepitJohnL said:
And no-one will blame the government on the one and only issue on which Labour still leads.SquareRoot said:Bring on the junior doctors strike.. It''l only need a few people to die as a result of their selfishness and they'll be as popular as journalists..
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Labour third !!!rcs1000 said:
I think a Rochdale by-election of:Big_G_NorthWales said:
Be careful of what you wish for. Rochdale will not elect a CorbynistaNickPalmer said:
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.
Lab vs Danczuk vs UKIP could be fascinating
I hope UKIP is not stupid enough to take Danczuk on0 -
On topic, Janan Ganesh takes an optimistic line for the Conservatives:
https://t.co/fhTEE2ROVa
I fall somewhere between Keiran Pedley and Janan Ganesh. I expect we'll have a lot of surly, mutinous Leavers but they won't want to flounce to UKIP. Party discipline could be very flaky for a while at least.0 -
And that most of them are in their late twenties and earning north of £40k at the moment. And they're striking because they've got better things to do on Saturdays, like second jobs in the private sector or as wedding photographers. And that most of them will end up being senior doctors with six figure salaries, well in the top 1%.Mortimer said:
The Docs, for a bunch of smarties, have zero political awareness at all.SquareRoot said:Bring on the junior doctors strike.. It''l only need a few people to die as a result of their selfishness and they'll be as popular as journalists..
If you ask the average chapess on the Balham omnibus if Junior Docs should be paid more; they'd probably say yes.
But if you then told them how 'Junior' means all below consultant - And that they're tutition was heavily NHS subsidised. And that many of them are threatening to leave. And that they're planning to strike during winter - the sympathy wouldn't last long.0 -
I'm surprised Farage hasn't blamed foreigners on the motorway loosening the wheel bolts as he got caught in a traffic jam caused by a growing population.TheScreamingEagles said:Wheels fall off Farage 'assassination plot' story after recall revelation
Volvo V70 model owned by Ukip leader, who suggested his car had been tampered with, was recalled in 2010 over wheel problems
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/04/wheels-fall-off-farage-assassination-plot-story-recall-revelation?CMP=twt_a-politics_b-gdnukpolitics0 -
Is he a popular local MP though? I have no idea. He certainly seems to attract trouble.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Labour third !!!rcs1000 said:
I think a Rochdale by-election of:Big_G_NorthWales said:
Be careful of what you wish for. Rochdale will not elect a CorbynistaNickPalmer said:
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.
Lab vs Danczuk vs UKIP could be fascinating
I hope UKIP is not stupid enough to take Danczuk on0 -
So, London is the problem.HYUFD said:
Not that surprising given just over 50% of Londoners now rent compared to only about 35% of Britons as a wholechestnut said:
The real problem isn't private v social, it's London v The Rest of the UK.malcolmg said:Hard to believe it is only a tenner , but even so it is a lot of tenners every week.
About £1 in every £4 in housing benefit is spent on London, I believe.
The London housing market needs to become more like the rest of Britain.
That means fewer tenants, more owners - and changes that drive subsidy levels down to those comparable with the remainder of the UK. The London Benefit Premium needs to be curbed.
Some London housing association properties are being let for double the price of comparable private rentals in the North, for example.
A one bed council flat costs the same in London as a three bed private rental house in bits of Lancashire.0 -
As an aside I see that great British darts player Gary Anderson has won the world title. 0
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Someone will die because of the Doctors strike..it is inevitable...yet they voted for it...for more money0
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That well known Rochdale resident, Gillian Duffy of Bigotgate fame on hearing Corbyn was elected said that she would not vote labour with him in chargerottenborough said:
Is he a popular local MP though? I have no idea. He certainly seems to attract trouble.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Labour third !!!rcs1000 said:
I think a Rochdale by-election of:Big_G_NorthWales said:
Be careful of what you wish for. Rochdale will not elect a CorbynistaNickPalmer said:
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.
Lab vs Danczuk vs UKIP could be fascinating
I hope UKIP is not stupid enough to take Danczuk on0 -
That will not stop the conspiracy nuts. Everyone knows Volvo dealerships are run by CCHQ.TheScreamingEagles said:Wheels fall off Farage 'assassination plot' story after recall revelation
Volvo V70 model owned by Ukip leader, who suggested his car had been tampered with, was recalled in 2010 over wheel problems
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/04/wheels-fall-off-farage-assassination-plot-story-recall-revelation?CMP=twt_a-politics_b-gdnukpolitics0 -
I usually agree with Janan Ganesh, but that does seem to expect a lot of the Tories.AlastairMeeks said:On topic, Janan Ganesh takes an optimistic line for the Conservatives:
https://t.co/fhTEE2ROVa
I fall somewhere between Keiran Pedley and Janan Ganesh. I expect we'll have a lot of surly, mutinous Leavers but they won't want to flounce to UKIP. Party discipline could be very flaky for a while at least.0 -
@DavidL
Just regarding Italy, Markit published its manufacturing PMIs today, and Italy is "leading the pack", see https://www.markiteconomics.com/Survey/PressRelease.mvc/4fa6a086cb8e4710ba65529c2126f1480 -
we will all die whether the doctors strike or not.richardDodd said:Someone will die because of the Doctors strike..it is inevitable...yet they voted for it...for more money
death is a certainty.0 -
The best thing Danczuk can do is disappear for a few weeks. Check himself into the Priory or somewhere he can switch his phone off and deal with his demons out of the glare of the newspapers.rottenborough said:
Is he a popular local MP though? I have no idea. He certainly seems to attract trouble.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Labour third !!!rcs1000 said:
I think a Rochdale by-election of:Big_G_NorthWales said:
Be careful of what you wish for. Rochdale will not elect a CorbynistaNickPalmer said:
Bring it on!AlastairMeeks said:Missing the point:
@MrHarryCole · 7m7 minutes ago
Simon Danczuk does not rule out running against the Labour Party in 2020 in Rochdale if they boot him out of the party.
Lab vs Danczuk vs UKIP could be fascinating
I hope UKIP is not stupid enough to take Danczuk on0 -
Tom Watson?SquareRoot said:
if someone dies because the Doctors striking , I know who i'll blame .and it won't be the Govt.DecrepitJohnL said:
And no-one will blame the government on the one and only issue on which Labour still leads.SquareRoot said:Bring on the junior doctors strike.. It''l only need a few people to die as a result of their selfishness and they'll be as popular as journalists..
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Deleted tweet by Dr Eoin re no Labour reshuffle and which I can't figure out how to paste here!0
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why ? has he been making further allegationsrcs1000 said:
Tom Watson?SquareRoot said:
if someone dies because the Doctors striking , I know who i'll blame .and it won't be the Govt.DecrepitJohnL said:
And no-one will blame the government on the one and only issue on which Labour still leads.SquareRoot said:Bring on the junior doctors strike.. It''l only need a few people to die as a result of their selfishness and they'll be as popular as journalists..
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That can't be correct. We were assured this dispute was purely about patient safety, not filthy lucre.richardDodd said:Someone will die because of the Doctors strike..it is inevitable...yet they voted for it...for more money
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Here's the next best thing...!Scrapheap_as_was said:Deleted tweet by Dr Eoin re no Labour reshuffle and which I can't figure out how to paste here!
http://order-order.com/2016/01/04/dr-eoins-sources-let-him-down/0 -
Predicting that Tom Watson will die because the Doctor's strike seems a bit specific. Do you know something Tom doesn't?rcs1000 said:
Tom Watson?SquareRoot said:
if someone dies because the Doctors striking , I know who i'll blame .and it won't be the Govt.DecrepitJohnL said:
And no-one will blame the government on the one and only issue on which Labour still leads.SquareRoot said:Bring on the junior doctors strike.. It''l only need a few people to die as a result of their selfishness and they'll be as popular as journalists..
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All depends on how much he has upset Momentum...eek said:
Predicting that Tom Watson will die because the Doctor's strike seems a bit specific. Do you know something Tom doesn't?rcs1000 said:
Tom Watson?SquareRoot said:
if someone dies because the Doctors striking , I know who i'll blame .and it won't be the Govt.DecrepitJohnL said:
And no-one will blame the government on the one and only issue on which Labour still leads.SquareRoot said:Bring on the junior doctors strike.. It''l only need a few people to die as a result of their selfishness and they'll be as popular as journalists..
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Is Osborne position improving a bit? YouGov Best PM match-ups:
Cameron 49
Corbyn 23
Osborne 39
Corbyn 27
Not great for Osborne but not terrible either.
Also may need to factor in that he could get a small new leader / new PM bounce - if he added 2 or 3 more points then lead becomes very substantial.0 -
Very helpful for the Conservatives that Carswell and Reckless met such an unpleasant fate (as well as, in the latter case, bringing cheer to our deputy host). If there were a flourishing little colony of half a dozen ex-Tory kipper MPs things would look very different.AlastairMeeks said:On topic, Janan Ganesh takes an optimistic line for the Conservatives:
https://t.co/fhTEE2ROVa
I fall somewhere between Keiran Pedley and Janan Ganesh. I expect we'll have a lot of surly, mutinous Leavers but they won't want to flounce to UKIP. Party discipline could be very flaky for a while at least.0 -
ITV news suggesting sources say Benn not willing to be moved from post.
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What the...
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-35221173
"Four years ago, I asked what I thought was an entirely innocent question using Freedom of Information laws...."
What a waste of evryones time. Except the lawyers of course, their time is very valuable.0 -
ABrooke do try not to be a pillock..I realise it might be a tad difficult for you..but hey..Someone who need not die, will die because of this strike..and the strike is for more money.I wonder what these Doctors think that being a Doctor actually means...Train drivers strike..Miners strike..some aggrieved factory workers strike..Teachers strike..Doctors do not strike.0
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When you serve at the pleasure of your party leader, it is not really a matter of whether or not you are willing to move. You either accept it or walk. That is how it works.Moses_ said:ITV news suggesting sources say Benn not willing to be moved from post.
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Hey if you post troll bait expect trolls.richardDodd said:ABrooke do try not to be a pillock..I realise it might be a tad difficult for you..but hey..Someone who need not die, will die because of this strike..and the strike is for more money.I wonder what these Doctors think that being a Doctor actually means...Train drivers strike..Miners strike..some aggrieved factory workers strike..Teachers strike..Doctors do not strike.
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