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Charles said:

Sandpit said:

richardDodd said:

...He has just sold his biz for 70 million quid..and he tells me he has taken every conceivable step to pay as little as possible to the taxman....

Of course he did - it's what's known as human nature. No-one voluntarily writes a cheque to the taxman for any more than the minimum required.

We're proud of the fact that our family company is owned directly by the partners, without any complex offshore tax planning.

Simplicity and transparency are good things.

madasafish said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

How many people are employed in this country to phone up every Tom, Sarah, Dick & Harry about their road traffic accident ?

What on earth is the business model !

The contingency fee model

It's the "every UK lawyer deserves a job and you idiots have to pay for it even although most lawyers make Miliband seem competent:" model..

JEO said:

Sandpit,

It has become increasingly clear to me that EU membership means we have to accept that other governments, many of which are either much softer, or much more corrupt, than we are, can hand out passports to live in the UK permanently.

It seems like a fatal flaw in the system.

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

How many people are employed in this country to phone up every Tom, Sarah, Dick & Harry about their road traffic accident ?

What on earth is the business model !

The contingency fee model

I might tell the next lot I've had an accident, see where the call develops...

Is a farce, a few years ago, I was involved in a car accident, the only injury I received was a very minor burn on a finger from when the air bag deployed.

I was told I could get up to 2 grand in compensation for that, no win no fee.

But here's the thing, I haven't had any car accidents since about 12 years ago, at least.

I can understand the model if you're calling people up who have had accidents 0- but calling people who haven't doesn't seem profitable to me...

Scott_P said:

@JenWilliamsMEN: Jeremy Corbyn has ditched all his regional press interviews at the last minute. There's not even a reason, he just doesn't feel like it

It’s official; Tony Blair and Gordon Brown have been airbrushed out of Labour’s history. In his speech Tom Watson, the deputy leader, paid tribute to John Smith and Ed Miliband, but did not mention the two party leaders in between.

Pulpstar said:

How many people are employed in this country to phone up every Tom, Sarah, Dick & Harry about their road traffic accident ?

What on earth is the business model !

Plato_Says said:

Frankly, I find that simply rude. Messing people about isn't big or clever.

Scott_P said:

@JenWilliamsMEN: Jeremy Corbyn has ditched all his regional press interviews at the last minute. There's not even a reason, he just doesn't feel like it

TheScreamingEagles said:

taffys said:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/the-northerner/2015/sep/30/anti-tory-protests-expected-in-manchester

A kinder brand of politics.

Yeh right

Must not throw soap at this lot from my flat.

I might wear my morning suit and top hat though and spray champagne at them.

Scott_P said:

The new line from Dair seems to confirm that Zoomer central have decided to jettison Thomson to protect Nicola

@kevverage: So presumably she must have knowingly withheld this information? https://t.co/J3pye2ol2e

Philip_Thompson said:

perdix said:

Philip_Thompson said:

foxinsoxuk said:

DavidL said:

As I have said before on here when we already have immigrant communities of several million with strong family, religious and cultural links back to their countries of origin the idea that we will have less than 100K net immigration a year is frankly absurd.

This would only be possible if the right of UK citizens to marry who they like and then have their spouse come and live with them in the UK was taken away. The right is already restricted by an income level of £24k and some fairly intrusive tests to establish whether or not it is a sham marriage. I don't think we can do much more except at the margins.

In short, the pass was sold when these communities were allowed to establish themselves and then positively encouraged to retain those links by the deluded policies of multi-culturalism. Any politician that tries to tell you otherwise without indicating that what have been considered fairly inalienable rights are going to be taken away is just lying.

I think this is spot on. When you add in the 50 000 students each year that do not go home and 30 000 Tier 4 visas there is not much scope to realistically cut immigration to the historical levels prevailing in the Seventies. Apart from elect a Seventies style socialist who would cause mass emigration!

I'd wonder why anyone would want bright, young, educated graduates who have completed a degree in the country to go home. Its funny how often people bark on about how the immigrants are all uneducated poor ones but then it seems many tens of thousands are exactly the kind we'd want to encourage except they're already here. Bargain.

Many courses of study are not very challenging. It can still be a ticket for UK residence in practice.

That should be addressed if its an issue for the sake of our own young far more than migrants. A degree costs around £30k at least in fees and taxes so why would we be encouraging worthless degrees for our own students to flourish?

Plato_Says said:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Dair said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Dair said:

Scott_P said:

@PSbook: Firm owned by SNP MP boasted about selling Scottish social housing to English investors http://t.co/Yzr9uWPPAN http://t.co/nNfqiWd5C3

You've linked to a story about an Independent MP.

As usual, you prefer to lie than tell the truth.

Unless the first published that material in the last few hours it was a story about an SNP MP.

It's dated today, the whip was relinquished yesterday.

Any implication that Michelle Thomson is an SNP MP is a lie. She is an Independent MP.

Scott_P said:

@RobDotHutton: Lobby consensus: @tom_watson has officially made a "wide-ranging speech". http://t.co/jhNyIpCmHI

TheScreamingEagles said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

How many people are employed in this country to phone up every Tom, Sarah, Dick & Harry about their road traffic accident ?

What on earth is the business model !

The contingency fee model

I might tell the next lot I've had an accident, see where the call develops...

Is a farce, a few years ago, I was involved in a car accident, the only injury I received was a very minor burn on a finger from when the air bag deployed.

I was told I could get up to 2 grand in compensation for that, no win no fee.

But here's the thing, I haven't had any car accidents since about 12 years ago, at least.

I can understand the model if you're calling people up who have had accidents 0- but calling people who haven't doesn't seem profitable to me...

My friend as a pedestrian witnessed an accident and gave a police statement, he was plagued by calls from firms saying, did you have to take evasive action, did you suffer an injury, did it traumatise you?

Some of these turn into fishing trips for industrial accident/injury claims.

I think we're going to see a new industry forming with the VW scandal.

Were you mis-sold TDI? Call us

My job is as a consequence of a mis-selling scandal.

Perhaps I can switch over...

I've had three vehicles from the VW group.

I think we might have to launch our complaints PDQ before VW goes mammary glands up.

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

How many people are employed in this country to phone up every Tom, Sarah, Dick & Harry about their road traffic accident ?

What on earth is the business model !

The contingency fee model

I might tell the next lot I've had an accident, see where the call develops...

Scott_P said:

@MrHarryCole: Fallon: “The Labour leader is effectively saying he would lower Britain’s defences."

MonikerDiCanio said:

Dair said:

oxfordsimon said:

Dair said:

TGOHF said:

Dair said:

Scott_P said:

@PSbook: Firm owned by SNP MP boasted about selling Scottish social housing to English investors http://t.co/Yzr9uWPPAN http://t.co/nNfqiWd5C3

You've linked to a story about an Independent MP.

As usual, you prefer to lie than tell the truth.

As she is no longer part of your party - are you calling for her to step down and get elected as an Independent ?

Again - why does the National think she isn't part of the investigation - and if she isn't - why was she leant on ?

I think she should resign her seat, yes.

Why would anyone resign their seat if they genuinely believe that they did nothing wrong?

Or is it guilty until proven innocent in the Brave New World of the SNP?

I explained this the other day.

There is no evidence that she has committed any crime.

The problem is that she ran/runs a business which is involved in the distress purchase property market. I do not believe this is compatible with holding elected office under the banner of a social democratic party.

As such, the SNP (once they are able to do so, which is presumably after any investigation is over) should permanently expel her and she should resign her seat.

The quality control of the 56 Nat MPs was shoddy. Your motley crew in Westminster promises great entertainment.

Plato_Says said:

I read his piece from yesterday and could feel the sorrow radiating off it. He sounded so resigned - not in a frustrated EdM way, but genuinely depressed that Corbyn's regime is bedding itself in.

Floater said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11901651/The-age-of-Jeremy-Corbyn-is-here.-Now-the-civil-war.html

Hodges latest - you know you want to :-)

MTimT said:

Tissue_Price said:

SandyRentool said:

Is the Prime Minister going to clarify which cities he would be prepared to obliterate using Trident? I see from a BBC graphic that North Korea is out of range if the subs are in the Atlantic.

The whole point is not to tell anyone what you would do. A subtlety beyond the new, kinder politics of Corbyn.

But the subs can operate from the Arctic. Murmansk to Pyongyang = 6100km, range of Trident is 7800km.

Tissue_Price said:

Plato_Says said:

I read his piece from yesterday and could feel the sorrow radiating off it. He sounded so resigned - not in a frustrated EdM way, but genuinely depressed that Corbyn's regime is bedding itself in.

Floater said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11901651/The-age-of-Jeremy-Corbyn-is-here.-Now-the-civil-war.html

Hodges latest - you know you want to :-)

Well this is why I argued for a more-or-less instant coup. If the moderates (not even the Blairites) don't take back their party now they might be waiting until 2025.

Dair said:

SandyRentool said:

"Lord Hanningfield has been charged with false accounting in relation to allegations of expenses fraud."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34401900

The quality control over their Tory peers is quite woeful. Another Tory bound for slammer mayhaps?

Pulpstar said:

The contingency fee model

TGOHF said:

Dair said:

Scott_P said:

Dair said:

A politician doing the honourable thing is an alien concept to these zoomers.

She was "stepped down" by the party machine. They forgot to tell her about it until later...

There's nothing confusing about what happened. She resigned the whip, probably with prompting which is fair enough, and that automatically suspended her as an SNP member under SNP rules.

She may have been aware of this effect when she resigned the whip but that is the effect none the less. Resigning the whip was the right thing to do, allowing a proper investigation to take place.

It is a very good contrast to Alistair Carmichael who continues to cling to his position and embarrass his party.

Dair - can you explain where the National got this nugget from ?

"It is understood the initial police investigations will not involve Thomson herself."

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Clipp, I had an Indian lady call about a problem with my computer. Informed her the main user was on holiday. Cue silence, and her hanging up.

I despise such practices.

Dair said:

flightpath01 said:

Scott_P said:

The new line from Dair seems to confirm that Zoomer central have decided to jettison Thomson to protect Nicola

@kevverage: So presumably she must have knowingly withheld this information? https://t.co/J3pye2ol2e

Dair seems to believe that when someone does something illegal and abominable whilst an SNP MP and also whilst a prominent SNP supporter and peddling the SNP line then its alright for the SNP when she is then thrown out. lt trancadentally becomes an independent MP who perpetrated the horrors.
People like him have to believe this of course because if one SNP MP can lie so brazenly (when only pearls of wisdom are supposed to fall from the mouths of the SNP) then they can all be a bunch of liars - not least when it comes to defending their own party prejudice.

Michelle Thomson has been a member of the SNP for less than one year. She was an SNP MP for less than 5 months. She was suspended as a result of recent news.

There is nothing more the SNP can be expected to do. No scrutiny of candidates will ever be foolproof. However, the SNP seem to have done a reasonable job given the constant scrutiny from all sides, only one out of 50 new MPs (many of whom are very recent members) appears to be so problematic.

The only politician for a Scottish seat which we know, by their own admission, to have lied brazenly is Alistair Carmichael. His party support his lying and want him to continue to represent them.

watford30 said:

flightpath01 said:

JonathanD said:

Scott_P said:

@bbclaurak: Now HIlary Benn, Falconer, and Eagle all disputing Corbyn's ruling out of nuclear

How can they dispute it? Surely it is the PMs right to decide on issues like that. The cabinet can vote on renewing Trident but they can't vote to force the PM to press the button.

lt would make a good film though. How would they get the codes out of him? Probably been done in a US context.

What button and codes? PM doesn't have any.
PM authorises the sub commander to launch the weapons. RN send an authentication code.
The V boat captain could release right now should he so choose, but he doesn't since no one has issued him the authority.

Dair said:

SandyRentool said:

"Lord Hanningfield has been charged with false accounting in relation to allegations of expenses fraud."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34401900

The quality control over their Tory peers is quite woeful. Another Tory bound for slammer mayhaps?

Pulpstar said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Clipp, I had an Indian lady call about a problem with my computer. Informed her the main user was on holiday. Cue silence, and her hanging up.

I despise such practices.

I had a call yesterday where the chap didn't even bother going into the PPI/RTA ambulance chasing spiel. He just said "Don't worry about it" after I confirmed my name and hung up !

oxfordsimon said:

Dair said:

Michelle Thomson has been a member of the SNP for less than one year. She was an SNP MP for less than 5 months. She was suspended as a result of recent news.

There is nothing more the SNP can be expected to do. No scrutiny of candidates will ever be foolproof. However, the SNP seem to have done a reasonable job given the constant scrutiny from all sides, only one out of 50 new MPs (many of whom are very recent members) appears to be so problematic.

The only politician for a Scottish seat which we know, by their own admission, to have lied brazenly is Alistair Carmichael. His party support his lying and want him to continue to represent them.

It says a huge amount for the SNP that they would select someone who hadn't been a long-standing member of the party. It says a huge amount that they didn't do any proper vetting - as these allegations predate her selection as a candidate.

This is all about the SNP, their selection criteria and their inability do carry out the necessary checks with any sense of due diligence.

A big fail.

saddened said:

Dair said:

SandyRentool said:

"Lord Hanningfield has been charged with false accounting in relation to allegations of expenses fraud."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34401900

The quality control over their Tory peers is quite woeful. Another Tory bound for slammer mayhaps?

Not since 2010.

Dair said:

This is desperate, comical stuff even for loyalist zoomers.

The SNP had the (rather noble goal) of extending the scope of their representation into other sections of Scottish civil society beyond the traditional "involved in politics since a student" cohort.

But the zoomers have a problem with this.

No party will ever have a completely foolproof candidate scrutiny mechanism. Michelle Thomson has multiple businesses and there is little way that a selection panel can understand the depth of all of these businesses. It is perfectly conceivable they asked if she felt any of her business practises were incompatible and told them they were. There's only so much a selection process can be expected to do.

The positive is that the comical outrage bus jumping and virtue signalling from the loyalist zoomers on PB is providing much entertainment.