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Precisely. He can't be both pragmatic and consistent with his 'authentic' image. If he's moderate, he'll be accused of betrayal by his supporters. There is no way out of this.taffys said:Corbyn could start to take a more pragmatic view once he has the responsibility of being party leader. Unlikely perhaps but possible,
That is stodge's view.
But his supporters would go up the wall...
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Yeahbut he said he needs rents to come down too. How does that work?richardDodd said:So Corbyn is pledged to tackle homelessness by importing another 50,000 who need homes..good start
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Burn the commie!CopperSulphate said:Did he just say comradeship?
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The first PMQ's is unmissable
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Many happy returns of the day TSE -TheScreamingEagles said:Best birthday present ever
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We may be out of touch with the selectorate in the Labour party but that is all it is. Guilty of believing that there were more sane people inside Labour than has proven to be the case.William_H said:
Good to bear in mind for future prognostications as to Mr Corbyn's electoral prospectsPong said:TheWhiteRabbit Wins:
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95% of PB'ers underestimated corbyn's share, just 5% overestimated.
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Just 17% for Cooper, probably the best candidate on offer.0
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Must disagree wholeheartedly.
They've been dying to have someone like him in a major Party. He's annexed the SWP, assorted Trots, hard left Greenies et al.
And the starry-eyed youngsters who don't know any better.The_Apocalypse said:
By the time of May I suspect those who voted for him will have come to their senses - meaning that there is less goodwill towards him, so he'll be easier to shift. They also need to find a candidate to rally around.ThomasNashe said:
The loss of the mayoral election, or alternatively the loss of the Tooting by-election will also be big pressure points. But as has been observed with this kind of mandate from the party, he's going to be difficult to shift.The_Apocalypse said:Corbyn will be a goner once Labour are destroyed in the May elections next year.
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Good speech, I didn't expect him to turn the volume up on his voice.
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His attack on freedom of the press is so authoritarian it scares me to death.0
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Mr. F, Richard the Lionheart and Alexander the Great were both phenomenally lucky (until their sudden deaths at young ages, of course).0
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BBC saying that 85% of the three quidders voted for Jeremy!0
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Does JC (not the one from Nazareth) say 'Comrades', call people brothers, and talk about 'this great movement of ours'?0
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Zero olive branch to defeated blairites, from what I can see.
Let the show trials begin.0 -
There's a danger he'll end up talking to London rather than the other 58m of us.Sandpit said:
Yeahbut he said he needs rents to come down too. How does that work?richardDodd said:So Corbyn is pledged to tackle homelessness by importing another 50,000 who need homes..good start
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Sandpit That is exactly what he means.. gonna sell well come an election0
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Just stuck in the full results into the thread header.0
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Martin McGuinness @M_McGuinness_SF
Heartiest congratulations to our friend @jeremycorbyn on his stunning election as the new Leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/rbmFqXhgZt0 -
Indeed, he's been keeping that under wraps this campaign in case the 'angry lefty' card put people off - after all, one thing everyone has said is how polite he has been, and that is a positive, but it's harder to sell that when you are also being very loud.Speedy said:Good speech, I didn't expect him to turn the volume up on his voice.
He speaks authentically I have no doubt, but he and his team have been managing his image just like any other politician0 -
The Mail reported that the crane operator was owned by the Bin Laden group.
That surely is karma on 911.Tim_B said:Corbyn wins and a crane collapses into the Grand Mosque in Mecca killing over 100 people, and a gas cylinder explosion at a restaurant in India killing over 80 people..
Is God having a little joke?0 -
I missed that bit, what did he say?Pauly said:His attack on freedom of the press is so authoritarian it scares me to death.
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That is not really the point Malcolm. The first resignation has happened within minutes of the result. It is not exactly a good omen. The interesting thing will be to see how long it is before the next resignation (if any).malcolmg said:
Never even heard of the nobody
How many rats will openly desert the sinking ship?
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No wonder his Shadow Health Sec quit.JEO said:Praising the management of the NHS in Wales!
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BBC's Norman Smith: if Corbyn appoints McDonnell to a position there'll be an explosion in the party.0
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Be plenty of humble pies being cooked at present as the troughers try to repair the damage and try to curry favour with JC. Hopefully he clears out the dross, but a herculean task.0
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What % of LD MPs are women or ethnic minorities?TheScreamingEagles said:Top trolling by Mike
@MSmithsonPB: You can see why LAB has needed all women shortlists for parliamentary candidates0 -
Ooo. Well on the Election Game I had Corbyn winning on the first round with 59.26%. I did get Burnham and Cooper the wrong way round but had 3.92% for Kendall so I reckon I have come pretty close over all.
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Corbyn slipped the press censorship bit in rather quickly.. bit ominous..0
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I think the newer members have, but the more long term members and activists have ended up voting for him partly because the other candidates are so rubbish. I mean look at Burnham's total - 19% and he was supposed to win this contest!PlatoSays said:Must disagree wholeheartedly.
They've been dying to have someone like him in a major Party. He's annexed the SWP, assorted Trots, hard left Greenies et al.
And the starry-eyed youngsters who don't know any better.The_Apocalypse said:
By the time of May I suspect those who voted for him will have come to their senses - meaning that there is less goodwill towards him, so he'll be easier to shift. They also need to find a candidate to rally around.ThomasNashe said:
The loss of the mayoral election, or alternatively the loss of the Tooting by-election will also be big pressure points. But as has been observed with this kind of mandate from the party, he's going to be difficult to shift.The_Apocalypse said:Corbyn will be a goner once Labour are destroyed in the May elections next year.
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Gerry Adams @GerryAdamsSF 13m13 minutes agoScrapheap_as_was said:
Martin McGuinness @M_McGuinness_SF
Heartiest congratulations to our friend @jeremycorbyn on his stunning election as the new Leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/rbmFqXhgZt
Well done Jeremy Corbyn.
Endorsements like this won't sway voters.0 -
Oh and I have to say this confirms what so many people have said on here in the past. Whether you like or dislike Cameron no one can deny he is one of the luckiest PMs in modern political history.0
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The gift that keeps on giving.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Martin McGuinness @M_McGuinness_SF
Heartiest congratulations to our friend @jeremycorbyn on his stunning election as the new Leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/rbmFqXhgZt0 -
He basically ranted on about how bad some journalists and the media are. Pandering to the murdoch hating labour supporters - as far as I'm concerned if you don't like it don't read it. We don't need state intervention.CopperSulphate said:
I missed that bit, what did he say?Pauly said:His attack on freedom of the press is so authoritarian it scares me to death.
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So the %age results are:
Burnham 19.04
Cooper 17.02
Corbyn 59.48
Kendall 4.46
Based on...
http://www.labour.org.uk/blog/entry/results-of-the-labour-leadership-and-deputy-leadership-election
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JC has had his "we are the masters now" moment. What an execrable character he is. gg Labour.0
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Corbyn slipped the press censorship bit in rather quickly.. bit ominous..
Corbyn hates having to defend his policies, because he's never had to.
He does now.0 -
Mr. Owl, are you trying to make me regret axing Balls?0
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Marvellous.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Martin McGuinness @M_McGuinness_SF
Heartiest congratulations to our friend @jeremycorbyn on his stunning election as the new Leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/rbmFqXhgZt0 -
Great speech - very glad I voted for him.0
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So in the end my vote mattered for sod all.
Broke even across the two contests as I managed to miss getting on JC until it was too late.0 -
The gift that keeps on giving.
Do you think the kippers will be doing handsprings too, Sean? especially in the North?0 -
So is Kendal's 4.5%. The Blairite wing of Labour is dead.The_Apocalypse said:
I think the newer members have, but the more long term members and activists have ended up voting for him partly because the other candidates are so rubbish. I mean look at Burnham's total - 19% and he was supposed to win this contest!PlatoSays said:Must disagree wholeheartedly.
They've been dying to have someone like him in a major Party. He's annexed the SWP, assorted Trots, hard left Greenies et al.
And the starry-eyed youngsters who don't know any better.The_Apocalypse said:
By the time of May I suspect those who voted for him will have come to their senses - meaning that there is less goodwill towards him, so he'll be easier to shift. They also need to find a candidate to rally around.ThomasNashe said:
The loss of the mayoral election, or alternatively the loss of the Tooting by-election will also be big pressure points. But as has been observed with this kind of mandate from the party, he's going to be difficult to shift.The_Apocalypse said:Corbyn will be a goner once Labour are destroyed in the May elections next year.
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Look at the adoring masses outside! Doesn't look quite so big outside of a church hall.0
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so are weNickPalmer said:Great speech - very glad I voted for him.
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Sunil Prasannan @Sunil_P2 · now
@MSmithsonPB Hi Mike - remind me how many @LibDems MPs are female or from ethnic minorities?
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Really disappointing for Labour moderates.Looks like we will be out of the 2020 race.0
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Certainly sounded head and shoulders above any labour speaker for many many years.kle4 said:
Indeed, he's been keeping that under wraps this campaign in case the 'angry lefty' card put people off - after all, one thing everyone has said is how polite he has been, and that is a positive, but it's harder to sell that when you are also being very loud.Speedy said:Good speech, I didn't expect him to turn the volume up on his voice.
He speaks authentically I have no doubt, but he and his team have been managing his image just like any other politician0 -
No not at all. Just reflecting all would really be likely to be different right now. There was a chance of that in May, now it's certain.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Owl, are you trying to make me regret axing Balls?
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Now for the good bit or even better bit The Shadow Cabinet..the ones who will have to support and defend the loony demands of the Leader...who can sunbathe while this great show is on tv..0
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I hope he proves all you were wishing for. What will be the first real test of his mettle do you think? We need to see if he can handle the pressure, the struggles of leadership.NickPalmer said:Great speech - very glad I voted for him.
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ROFLMAO!Sean_F said:
The gift that keeps on giving.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Martin McGuinness @M_McGuinness_SF
Heartiest congratulations to our friend @jeremycorbyn on his stunning election as the new Leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/rbmFqXhgZt0 -
In the beginning Kendall was the betting favourite.MarkHopkins said:So the %age results are:
Burnham 19.04
Cooper 17.02
Corbyn 59.48
Kendall 4.46
Based on...
http://www.labour.org.uk/blog/entry/results-of-the-labour-leadership-and-deputy-leadership-election0 -
the media are a bunch of nasty crap merchants, never a truer word said. Strengthen the lamposts.CopperSulphate said:
I missed that bit, what did he say?Pauly said:His attack on freedom of the press is so authoritarian it scares me to death.
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Corbyn said that the four leadership candidates are going to form an ABBA tribute band.
He's got my vote.0 -
Balls would have been a better candidate than his wife. He must be wondering how Labour screwed up when he needed support. Then again trying to unseat Nick Clegg in Sheffield was quite a shrewd move, not.welshowl said:
Morley and Outwood looks really significant now too. A real bona fide Portillo moment.AndyJS said:Just 17% for Cooper, probably the best candidate on offer.
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I think it was NFL coach Mike Ditka who said "good teams have skill; bad teams always say they don't have luck".Richard_Tyndall said:Oh and I have to say this confirms what so many people have said on here in the past. Whether you like or dislike Cameron no one can deny he is one of the luckiest PMs in modern political history.
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Sunil_Prasannan said:
Sunil Prasannan @Sunil_P2 · now
@MSmithsonPB Hi Mike - remind me how many @LibDems MPs are female or from ethnic minorities? 0 -
I answered your question to one decimal point earlier.MarkHopkins said:So the %age results are:
Burnham 19.04
Cooper 17.02
Corbyn 59.48
Kendall 4.46
Based on...
http://www.labour.org.uk/blog/entry/results-of-the-labour-leadership-and-deputy-leadership-election0 -
The speech contained a lot of platitudes and grand overarching ambitions. Very little on how he'd propose to achieve it though.0
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I know the joke in Manchester is that the IRA bombed the place and caused a billion pounds of improvements, but that really doesn't mean that Mancunians support the terrorists!taffys said:The gift that keeps on giving.
Do you think the kippers will be doing handsprings too, Sean? especially in the North?
Birmingham and Warrington also have long memories of Jeremy's "Friends" and what they did to their cities.0 -
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Mr. Owl, that's true. Had Balls retained this seat, the leadership election may have gone very differently.0
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Congrats are due to YouGov on this day as well. You have to admire their balls after the events of May.0
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Lucy Powell getting interviewed on Sky News now.0
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As @JEO noted, he was incoherent with rage during bits of his speech.glw said:
And that is when he is happy about his victory, imagine him on a bad day when he's on the back foot and under some real scrutiny. The guy's one slip of the tongue away from full-on moonbat ranting.SeanT said:Jeremy Corbyn is, possibly, even worse than I expected.
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Mr. Eagles, indeed, this vindicates YouGov. If they'd got this wrong, that would've been a shocker for them.0
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Some pundits saying Cameron will find Corbyn 'trickier' than other labour contenders across the dispatch box.
And people PAY these idiots....??0 -
That is true.TheScreamingEagles said:Congrats are due to YouGov on this day as well. You have to admire their balls after the events of May.
Though we will never know what their last poll results were.0 -
Beverly , however the point is they need the dross to resign or be booted out. labour leadership team is pitiful and anybody from anywhere can only improve their chances. They really are talentless and only impact will be to save him time sacking him.Beverley_C said:
That is not really the point Malcolm. The first resignation has happened within minutes of the result. It is not exactly a good omen. The interesting thing will be to see how long it is before the next resignation (if any).malcolmg said:
Never even heard of the nobody
How many rats will openly desert the sinking ship?
Hard to believe that the nobody was shadow health and yet I have never been heard of him, that just about sums them up.0 -
To be fair, they don't have any safe seats to virtue signal in.Sunil_Prasannan said:Sunil Prasannan @Sunil_P2 · now
@MSmithsonPB Hi Mike - remind me how many @LibDems MPs are female or from ethnic minorities?
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Corbyn's future depends on his poll rating and performance in elections not his mandate in this ballot even winning 60% of Tory members backing him did not save IDS due to his poor poll ratings with the Brent East by election where the Tories came third finishing him off0
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User Actionstaffys said:Some pundits saying Cameron will find Corbyn 'trickier' than other labour contenders across the dispatch box.
And people PAY these idiots....??
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.@jeremycorbyn may be disaster for Lab that pundits (mostly) predict but not sure Cameron will be relishing facing him across dispatch box0 -
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Ahhhh Ed's appeared!!!!0
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I just did.0 -
Liz Kendall got the second-worst result of any candidate in any Labour contest ever. Ahead of only Peter Shore, 3.1% in 1983.0
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NPXMP Attaboy..dumb as ever..you do realise that in Corbyns world you and your best good buddy Roger are the enemy..Shades of The French Revolution here..0
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Happy birthday TSE
When are the other results to be announced?0 -
Miliband "massive opportunity for the party"0
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Ed speaks.
And says...nothing much.0 -
Ah, how sweet.
Guido Fawkes @GuidoFawkes 1m1 minute ago
Ed Miliband speaks! "I'll be offering Jeremy Corbyn my support"0 -
Forgot quite how terrible Ed Miliband is.0
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Incidentally, cheers to Mr. F for the Shah Muhammed reference. Just read up on that at Wikipedia. It turns out that executing messengers sent by Genghis Khan to open trade negotiations wasn't terribly clever.0
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Not sure.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:Happy birthday TSE
When are the other results to be announced?0 -
Ed's improved communication skills from the election campaign seem to have gone out the window.0
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Christmas No.1?TheScreamingEagles said:Corbyn said that the four leadership candidates are going to form an ABBA tribute band.
He's got my vote.0
