BBC World News correspondent says that Britain is more interested in re-upholstery than in revolution, and says he thinks it's electoral suicide for Labour. Mentions 'Tom and Jerry'.
Corbyn will be a goner once Labour are destroyed in the May elections next year.
The loss of the mayoral election, or alternatively the loss of the Tooting by-election will also be big pressure points. But as has been observed with this kind of mandate from the party, he's going to be difficult to shift.
By the time of May I suspect those who voted for him will have come to their senses - meaning that there is less goodwill towards him, so he'll be easier to shift. They also need to find a candidate to rally around.
Hope you're right. It will be important that the likes of Jarvis, Reeves, Creasy et al. keep a united front and put out a coherent message. The only hope is that they might yet be the future.
No chance at all of the Blairites getting hold of it again. It'll be the soft left at best.
Never say never ...just wait and see how bad the Corbyn train wreck becomes ; it could discredit the Left for good ...poor Corbyn is a true believer burning with the zeal of the converted , he cannot compromise , with him it's all or nothing
The speech contained a lot of platitudes and grand overarching ambitions. Very little on how he'd propose to achieve it though.
It was a victory speech not a manifesto.
Indeed. But it may be his last one ever. I was responding to implication that the quality or otherwise of the speech was an indicator of his potential future prospects.
Incidentally, cheers to Mr. F for the Shah Muhammed reference. Just read up on that at Wikipedia. It turns out that executing messengers sent by Genghis Khan to open trade negotiations wasn't terribly clever.
But, no worse than Labour's decision, today.
WRT Genghis Khan, it's amazing how many of his opponents were utterly stupid. Executing his envoys was quite common. Let's just say, it did not necessarily develop to their advantage.
But, the 13th century Darwin award must go the chief who kidnapped and raped his wife, Borte.
No chance of Labour winning the next election under him, but two things I'm looking out for. 1. Can he keep his cool. It's going to be hell for him. If he can somehow stay in control he should do a good job at holding the govt to account and inspiring grassroots campaigns. If not, he'll surely become a figure of fun. 2. He's too London. If the obsession with London's housing crisis = all the refugees will have to go to Yorkshire, his regional support will evaporate.
Boulton to Blunkett: "when you came into politics Corbyn was the type of person you were fighting against" Blunkett: "I don't think Jeremy bears grudges..."
I don't think Burnham lent any nominations in the end, the responsibility for nominating Corbyn rests with the individual MP's who will have to now justify their actions. I'm not sure Cooper's result is good enough for her to run again in 2/3 years time.
Heartiest congratulations to our friend @jeremycorbyn on his stunning election as the new Leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/rbmFqXhgZt
YES , this is the way the Tories will destroy Corbyn as a ''threat to national security '' There's going to be some gruesome skeletons tumbling out of his cupboard ; he seems to be oblivious to the fine line he is walking ...he's entering a metaphorical minefield and is likely to be blasted to kingdom come
Indeed. Lukewarm doesn't begin to cover his words of support. But what a contrast: what a sensible dignified bloke. Might not agree with him on all things ( but certainly on some ). Poor sod is probably well unhappy.
Yvette Cooper auditioning for a shadow cabinet position, all about feminism, glass ceiling, suffragettes ect. Thank god she wasn't elected.
She actually said "I don't expect to be in Jeremy's Shadow Cabinet". A fairly hefty clue.
She doesn't expect, not that she doesn't want to, after the " women should be included in the top team bla bla bla feminism bla bla bla glass ceiling bla bla bla" she still advertises herself as available, she didn't exclude herself.
Lots of senior Labour MPs finding passionate causes that they want to concentrate on which would sadly get in the way of being able to serve in the Shadow Cabinet.
Heartiest congratulations to our friend @jeremycorbyn on his stunning election as the new Leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/rbmFqXhgZt
YES , this is the way the Tories will destroy Corbyn as a ''threat to national security '' There's going to be some gruesome skeletons tumbling out of his cupboard ; he seems to be oblivious to the fine line he is walking ...he's entering a metaphorical minefield and is likely to be blasted to kingdom come
Corbyn needs to attack the Conservatives over defence cuts.
Congratulations to Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters. A stunning victory for him.
It's not the moment for snide comment but Andy Burnham's decision - from the position of favourite - to lend Corbyn MPs must go down as one of the great political errors of all time.
Labour's new left-wing leader faces a baptism of fire over the next few weeks.
Key dates in the diary already include:
Sunday morning: TV interview with the BBC's Andrew Marr Monday: House of Commons vote on government's Trade Union bill, cracking down on strike laws Monday: Dinner with trade union barons at the TUC conference in Brighton Monday evening: First private meeting of Labour MPs Wednesday: First Prime Minister's Questions Tuesday September 29: Labour party conference leadership speech October: Expected vote on military action against ISIS in Syria
The Labour MPs who nominated Corbyn despite not supporting him:
Margaret Beckett Dawn Butler Sarah Champion Jon Cruddas Frank Field Sadiq Khan David Lammy Chi Onwurah Tulip Siddiq Andrew Smith Gareth Thomas Emily Thornberry Neil Coyle Louise Haigh
Lots of senior Labour MPs finding passionate causes that they want to concentrate on which would sadly get in the way of being able to serve in the Shadow Cabinet.
Then they're bloody idiots because they won't have added to their CVs by the time the next leadership election comes round in 2018 or so. Even Tony Blair of blessed memory made his name in Opposition, not government.
Corbyn will be a goner once Labour are destroyed in the May elections next year.
The loss of the mayoral election, or alternatively the loss of the Tooting by-election will also be big pressure points. But as has been observed with this kind of mandate from the party, he's going to be difficult to shift.
By the time of May I suspect those who voted for him will have come to their senses - meaning that there is less goodwill towards him, so he'll be easier to shift. They also need to find a candidate to rally around.
Hope you're right. It will be important that the likes of Jarvis, Reeves, Creasy et al. keep a united front and put out a coherent message. The only hope is that they might yet be the future.
No chance at all of the Blairites getting hold of it again. It'll be the soft left at best.
Never say never ...just wait and see how bad the Corbyn train wreck becomes ; it could discredit the Left for good ...poor Corbyn is a true believer burning with the zeal of the converted , he cannot compromise , with him it's all or nothing
One good thing for the Labour Party is that the victory is overwhelming, and there is no need for lawyers.
Although the Three Quidders made his victory overwhelming, Corbyn would have won anyway under any voting system with 58 per cent of the affiliates and 49 per cent of members.
But, the disconnect between the Parliamentary Party and the rest of the Labour movement is very striking.
I just don’t see how this is sustainable. No party can thrive if its Parliamentary representatives are so unrepresentative of the membership.
Labour's new left-wing leader faces a baptism of fire over the next few weeks.
Key dates in the diary already include:
Sunday morning: TV interview with the BBC's Andrew Marr Monday: House of Commons vote on government's Trade Union bill, cracking down on strike laws Monday: Dinner with trade union barons at the TUC conference in Brighton Monday evening: First private meeting of Labour MPs Wednesday: First Prime Minister's Questions Tuesday September 29: Labour party conference leadership speech October: Expected vote on military action against ISIS in Syria
Heartiest congratulations to our friend @jeremycorbyn on his stunning election as the new Leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/rbmFqXhgZt
YES , this is the way the Tories will destroy Corbyn as a ''threat to national security '' There's going to be some gruesome skeletons tumbling out of his cupboard ; he seems to be oblivious to the fine line he is walking ...he's entering a metaphorical minefield and is likely to be blasted to kingdom come
Martin McGuinness takes his pay cheque from implementing the laws of HM Government.
PB Tories remember Brighton and Saint Margaret but I bet most people nowadays don't care.
Labour's new left-wing leader faces a baptism of fire over the next few weeks.
Key dates in the diary already include:
Sunday morning: TV interview with the BBC's Andrew Marr Monday: House of Commons vote on government's Trade Union bill, cracking down on strike laws Monday: Dinner with trade union barons at the TUC conference in Brighton Monday evening: First private meeting of Labour MPs Wednesday: First Prime Minister's Questions Tuesday September 29: Labour party conference leadership speech October: Expected vote on military action against ISIS in Syria
Enough of this - it's time to watch something sane, main stream, and the model of political correctness and taste. I'm about to watch Trump on the Tonight Show yesterday.
The Labour MPs who nominated Corbyn despite not supporting him:
Margaret Beckett Dawn Butler Sarah Champion Jon Cruddas Frank Field Sadiq Khan David Lammy Chi Onwurah Tulip Siddiq Andrew Smith Gareth Thomas Emily Thornberry Neil Coyle Louise Haigh
8 of those are London MPs.
Pretty sure my MP, Rupa Huq (Ealing Central and Acton) was also one - supported Cooper, but nominated Corbyn.
Lol at him pulling out of Marr. I feel like the Westminster bubble are going to be more angry about Jez not respecting the rituals like that, than they will be about his policies.
The Labour MPs who nominated Corbyn despite not supporting him:
Margaret Beckett Dawn Butler Sarah Champion Jon Cruddas Frank Field Sadiq Khan David Lammy Chi Onwurah Tulip Siddiq Andrew Smith Gareth Thomas Emily Thornberry Neil Coyle Louise Haigh
8 of those are London MPs.
Idiots, the lot of them. The checks and balances were put into the election process for a very good reason, these are the MPs who created the monster that was unveiled an hour ago.
Congratulations to Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters. A stunning victory for him.
It's not the moment for snide comment but Andy Burnham's decision - from the position of favourite - to lend Corbyn MPs must go down as one of the great political errors of all time.
I think all three of Corbyn’s opponents -- Kendall, Burnham and Cooper -- have had their reputations seriously damaged, probably beyond repair.
Burnham ran a dumb campaign, but Kendall’s was dumber.
Cooper didn’t seem to run a campaign until after it was almost over. I was never convinced she wanted to be leader, and always felt she had been pressed in to it.
Heartiest congratulations to our friend @jeremycorbyn on his stunning election as the new Leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/rbmFqXhgZt
YES , this is the way the Tories will destroy Corbyn as a ''threat to national security '' There's going to be some gruesome skeletons tumbling out of his cupboard ; he seems to be oblivious to the fine line he is walking ...he's entering a metaphorical minefield and is likely to be blasted to kingdom come
Martin McGuinness takes his pay cheque from implementing the laws of HM Government.
PB Tories remember Brighton and Saint Margaret but I bet most people nowadays don't care.
Er, Northern Ireland has just lurched into crisis because of IRA murders.
As I said, I bet most people nowadays don't care. They only cared when Britain was being attacked, not people in Northern Ireland, and that stopped 20 years ago.
George Eaton @georgeeaton 10m10 minutes ago Diane Abbott says she's happy to stay on the backbenches. Corbyn's shadow cabinet likely to be less left-leaning than many expected.
Enough of this - it's time to watch something sane, main stream, and the model of political correctness and taste. I'm about to watch Trump on the Tonight Show yesterday.
The man who took the H out of huge.
Matter and anti-matter, that is what I expect if Corbyn and Trump ever meet.
Labour's new left-wing leader faces a baptism of fire over the next few weeks.
Key dates in the diary already include:
Sunday morning: TV interview with the BBC's Andrew Marr Monday: House of Commons vote on government's Trade Union bill, cracking down on strike laws Monday: Dinner with trade union barons at the TUC conference in Brighton Monday evening: First private meeting of Labour MPs Wednesday: First Prime Minister's Questions Tuesday September 29: Labour party conference leadership speech October: Expected vote on military action against ISIS in Syria
I don't think Burnham lent any nominations in the end, the responsibility for nominating Corbyn rests with the individual MP's who will have to now justify their actions. I'm not sure Cooper's result is good enough for her to run again in 2/3 years time.
It would have been unfortunate if MPs had prevented a candidate who 60% of the voters wanted from standing at all. People in the party who disagree with him need to develop an alternative, not rely on the nomination process to do the job for them.
Heartiest congratulations to our friend @jeremycorbyn on his stunning election as the new Leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/rbmFqXhgZt
YES , this is the way the Tories will destroy Corbyn as a ''threat to national security '' There's going to be some gruesome skeletons tumbling out of his cupboard ; he seems to be oblivious to the fine line he is walking ...he's entering a metaphorical minefield and is likely to be blasted to kingdom come
Martin McGuinness takes his pay cheque from implementing the laws of HM Government.
PB Tories remember Brighton and Saint Margaret but I bet most people nowadays don't care.
George Eaton @georgeeaton 10m10 minutes ago Diane Abbott says she's happy to stay on the backbenches. Corbyn's shadow cabinet likely to be less left-leaning than many expected.
Given the inherent sexism within the Labour party, Jeremy Corbyn should appoint Abbott as Shadow Chancellor.
This has nothing to do with tipping Abbott at 33/1 as next Shadow Chancellor
Labour's new left-wing leader faces a baptism of fire over the next few weeks.
Key dates in the diary already include:
Sunday morning: TV interview with the BBC's Andrew Marr Monday: House of Commons vote on government's Trade Union bill, cracking down on strike laws Monday: Dinner with trade union barons at the TUC conference in Brighton Monday evening: First private meeting of Labour MPs Wednesday: First Prime Minister's Questions Tuesday September 29: Labour party conference leadership speech October: Expected vote on military action against ISIS in Syria
George Eaton @georgeeaton 10m10 minutes ago Diane Abbott says she's happy to stay on the backbenches. Corbyn's shadow cabinet likely to be less left-leaning than many expected.
Boring. If Labour are going to make an attempt to be genuinely transformative, for good or ill, they should do it properly.
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Miliband won't serve in Jezza's Shad Cab
Michael Fallon (THE DEFENCE SECRETARY) provides first official Tory reax - emphasising Corbyn's "security" risk
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WRT Genghis Khan, it's amazing how many of his opponents were utterly stupid. Executing his envoys was quite common. Let's just say, it did not necessarily develop to their advantage.
But, the 13th century Darwin award must go the chief who kidnapped and raped his wife, Borte.
It's coming home
Labour's coming home!
Thank god she wasn't elected.
Blunkett: "I don't think Jeremy bears grudges..."
Andrew Neil @afneil 19s19 seconds ago
Rachel Reeves does not want to return to shadow cabinet after her maternity leave,
I'm seriously considering joining a political party. The question is: Cameron's Conservatives or Farron's Lib Dems?
(Although just to confuse matters, I might still vote Labour on Thursday ...)
There's going to be some gruesome skeletons tumbling out of his cupboard ; he seems to be oblivious to the fine line he is walking ...he's entering a metaphorical minefield and is likely to be blasted to kingdom come
Not for the faint hearted
Bit premature, perhaps.
Mr. F made an interesting historical reference about the chap linked below (Shah Muhammed) annoying Genghis Khan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_II_of_Khwarezm
Andrew Neil @afneil 26s26 seconds ago
Yvette Cooper also says she won't be in shadow cabinet. Will concentrate on European referendum.
Rachel says she will not serve in Corbyn Shadow Cabinet!
*sobs*
FFS.
It's not the moment for snide comment but Andy Burnham's decision - from the position of favourite - to lend Corbyn MPs must go down as one of the great political errors of all time.
Margaret Beckett
Dawn Butler
Sarah Champion
Jon Cruddas
Frank Field
Sadiq Khan
David Lammy
Chi Onwurah
Tulip Siddiq
Andrew Smith
Gareth Thomas
Emily Thornberry
Neil Coyle
Louise Haigh
8 of those are London MPs.
There are times when it just needs to be done. I still have my cassette tape of branded Things Can Only Get Better from my time as a Blair voter!
Dawn Butler - "of course i voted for him. Well i voted for Andy Burnham first..."
Although the Three Quidders made his victory overwhelming, Corbyn would have won anyway under any voting system with 58 per cent of the affiliates and 49 per cent of members.
But, the disconnect between the Parliamentary Party and the rest of the Labour movement is very striking.
I just don’t see how this is sustainable. No party can thrive if its Parliamentary representatives are so unrepresentative of the membership.
PB Tories remember Brighton and Saint Margaret but I bet most people nowadays don't care.
Ed was misguided and out of ideas, but Corbyn is downright dangerous and needs to be stopped at all and any cost.
Meanwhile the Lib Dems are no where to be seen. And the SNP continue to be in good strength north of the border.
Labour cannot win in 2020. And by 2025 we won't have Scottish seats for them to win either...
The man who took the H out of huge.
He thought EdM was useless. He couldn't bear to vote Tory, but Kipper was a great sideways move.
Burnham ran a dumb campaign, but Kendall’s was dumber.
Cooper didn’t seem to run a campaign until after it was almost over. I was never convinced she wanted to be leader, and always felt she had been pressed in to it.
Let's see if Corbyn can do the same.
Diane Abbott says she's happy to stay on the backbenches. Corbyn's shadow cabinet likely to be less left-leaning than many expected.
BBC are Tory puppets aren't they?
This has nothing to do with tipping Abbott at 33/1 as next Shadow Chancellor
Will he be confining his interviews to 'Russia Today'?