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  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    He just said immigration from outside the EU has gone down... that's wrong isn't it?

    He actually said it in the past tense "I got it down" but it has gone back up again! Surely no ones that slippery?!
  • IOS
    IOS Posts: 1,450
    Paranoia on here by some PB Tories is comical.

    They just can't stand anyone questioning their precious Dave :roll:
  • MikeK
    MikeK Posts: 9,053
    Remember to watch Farage at 1030
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    He's doing really, really well. Unfortunately I expect that few to no waverers are watching.
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    KentRising said:

    This past 20 mins has show that those who called for Cam to get all Major soap box were right.

    To be fair to Cameron (not something you'll often hear me say) he can be very good when he isn't chillaxing.
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    isam said:

    He just said immigration from outside the EU has gone down... that's wrong isn't it?

    He actually said it in the past tense "I got it down" but it has gone back up again! Surely no ones that slippery?!

    He also gloated about freezing the EU budget and failed to point out that the price was that our contributions went up!
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Roger said:

    If you like him he's impressive. If you don't he just seems completely fake and not very likeable.

    Blair used to be good at this.

    I saw Blair in the run up to 97. Very impressive live. Dave has a different style.
  • tyson
    tyson Posts: 6,122
    JackW said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I'm absolutely shocked that most of the questions to Dave from the BBC audience have been hostile.

    Shocked, I tell you.

    So they should be.

    They are there to be tested to within an inch of their majorities.

    JackW- father of pbCOm- you really have become the voice of reason and sound judgment on this site.

    An observation, Cameron is no Tony Blair who just loved dealing with hostile audiences. He's not bad though.

  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    It will be a fillip to the faithful to GOTV
    Chameleon said:

    He's doing really, really well. Unfortunately I expect that few to no waverers are watching.

  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Cam's being silly in trashing coalitions. He's just been in one for five years and if he's to be PM again he will have to be in one again...
  • tyson
    tyson Posts: 6,122
    Panelbase is clearly an outlier. Ashcroft remains the gold standard.
  • MikeK
    MikeK Posts: 9,053
    isam said:

    He just said immigration from outside the EU has gone down... that's wrong isn't it?

    He actually said it in the past tense "I got it down" but it has gone back up again! Surely no ones that slippery?!

    They don't call him a lamprey for nothing. No common eel is he.
  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Posts: 408
    I'm listening on the radio and get the impression Cameron is nailing this. Lots of energy, articulate and very strong on the detail. He's doing well.
  • tyson
    tyson Posts: 6,122
    Funny that Cameron is not demonising the SNP at all. I wonder what has caused this change of strategy?
  • Ishmael_X
    Ishmael_X Posts: 3,664
    tyson said:

    JackW said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I'm absolutely shocked that most of the questions to Dave from the BBC audience have been hostile.

    Shocked, I tell you.

    So they should be.

    They are there to be tested to within an inch of their majorities.

    JackW- father of pbCOm- you really have become the voice of reason and sound judgment on this site.

    An observation, Cameron is no Tony Blair who just loved dealing with hostile audiences. He's not bad though.

    Blair was routed by the Women's bloody Institute. What are you on about?
  • JackW
    JackW Posts: 14,787
    tyson said:

    JackW said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I'm absolutely shocked that most of the questions to Dave from the BBC audience have been hostile.

    Shocked, I tell you.

    So they should be.

    They are there to be tested to within an inch of their majorities.

    JackW- father of pbCOm- you really have become the voice of reason and sound judgment on this site.

    Post of the year .... and probably in the history of PB .... :smile:

  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    He mentioned in the first few mins.
    tyson said:

    Funny that Cameron is not demonising the SNP at all. I wonder what has caused this change of strategy?

  • Razedabode
    Razedabode Posts: 3,117
    Cameron thrives with this sort of format. Bit boring, though.
  • paulyork64
    paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    no banana skins there
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Blueberry said:

    I'm listening on the radio and get the impression Cameron is nailing this. Lots of energy, articulate and very strong on the detail. He's doing well.

    Impressive. Still won't be voting for him though ;-)
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    https://twitter.com/Andrew_ComRes/status/593860282591612928
  • JackW
    JackW Posts: 14,787
    Cam slightly weak on a future Coalition but overall a strong performance by the PM
  • JamesM
    JamesM Posts: 221
    Great format.

    Cameron was superb.
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Tough audience gave Cameron a grilling but I think he answered the questions well.

    Good format.
  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    edited April 2015
    He is a smooth performer, and comes across as a nice guy...but that was an outright lie about non EU migration wasn't it? He hasn't got it down has he?
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    Cameron must be delighted with that.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Sean_F said:

    KentRising said:

    This past 20 mins has show that those who called for Cam to get all Major soap box were right.

    To be fair to Cameron (not something you'll often hear me say) he can be very good when he isn't chillaxing.
    I agree. He was impressive tonight.
  • tyson
    tyson Posts: 6,122
    Ishmael_X said:

    tyson said:

    JackW said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I'm absolutely shocked that most of the questions to Dave from the BBC audience have been hostile.

    Shocked, I tell you.

    So they should be.

    They are there to be tested to within an inch of their majorities.

    JackW- father of pbCOm- you really have become the voice of reason and sound judgment on this site.

    An observation, Cameron is no Tony Blair who just loved dealing with hostile audiences. He's not bad though.

    Blair was routed by the Women's bloody Institute. What are you on about?
    Listen, anyone would have been routed by the WI
  • currystar
    currystar Posts: 1,171
    KentRising said:

    Blueberry said:

    I'm listening on the radio and get the impression Cameron is nailing this. Lots of energy, articulate and very strong on the detail. He's doing well.

    Impressive. Still won't be voting for him though ;-)
    Are you mad?
  • OblitusSumMe
    OblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    KentRising said:

    isam said:

    How the hell has Clegg managed to wangle equal time as Cam and Miliband in this set up?

    Absolutely incredible

    Shocking that Farage wasn't offered the same gig. Are we a democratic country or not?
    I thought Farage was on later but not being broadcast to Scotland?
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Thought Cameron was very good.
  • MikeK
    MikeK Posts: 9,053
    Tootipegs is now on. Ah, silence is golden.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Miliband getting slagged off on the economy!
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    This is audience are taking no prisoners.
  • Ishmael_X
    Ishmael_X Posts: 3,664
    ed on back foot.
  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    Alt Cricket (@AltCricket)
    30/04/2015 20:32
    David Cameron matches the housewife-baiting faux-suaveness of Mark Nicholas with the upper-class haplessness of Alastair Cook. #bbcqt
  • Concanvasser
    Concanvasser Posts: 190
    Doorstep response is that reluctant Tories are coming home and Labour vote is soft. It just doesn't feel like the voters are about to kick the bastards out. More like they are all bastards but better the debil you know. Older Liberals sticking with them, younger ones really seem to despise them.
  • OblitusSumMe
    OblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    OblitusSumMe said:

    KentRising said:

    isam said:

    How the hell has Clegg managed to wangle equal time as Cam and Miliband in this set up?

    Absolutely incredible

    Shocking that Farage wasn't offered the same gig. Are we a democratic country or not?
    I thought Farage was on later but not being broadcast to Scotland?
    He's on at 10:50 on BBC1 - "Ask Nigel..."
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    OblitusSumMe said:

    KentRising said:

    isam said:

    How the hell has Clegg managed to wangle equal time as Cam and Miliband in this set up?

    Absolutely incredible

    Shocking that Farage wasn't offered the same gig. Are we a democratic country or not?
    I thought Farage was on later but not being broadcast to Scotland?
    Yeah, hidden away after the news.
  • JackW
    JackW Posts: 14,787
    Ed being grilled too.

    This is not an easy gig.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Business owner killing Miliband on Balls.
  • JonnyJimmy
    JonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    "I absolutely say this to our audience"

    What?
  • Razedabode
    Razedabode Posts: 3,117
    Wow, Ed Miliband's getting it in the neck.....
  • Saltire
    Saltire Posts: 525
    MikeK said:

    Remember to watch Farage at 1030

    Or Sturgeon/Wood in Scotland/Wales.
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    Roger said:

    If you like him he's impressive. If you don't he just seems completely fake and not very likeable.

    Blair used to be good at this.

    1997, 2001, 2005 - kept The Tories out of power, most dangerous enemy they have had since Wilson.

  • Greenwich_Floater
    Greenwich_Floater Posts: 389
    Cameron 8/10 under hostile questioning from the audience.
  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    This is audience are taking no prisoners.

    Good luck Cleggy :)
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Miliband getting his arse spanked by a real business owner.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Miliband hit in the Balls...
  • Greenwich_Floater
    Greenwich_Floater Posts: 389
    Miliband under the pump.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    isam said:

    Alt Cricket (@AltCricket)
    30/04/2015 20:32
    David Cameron matches the housewife-baiting faux-suaveness of Mark Nicholas with the upper-class haplessness of Alastair Cook. #bbcqt

    Love Mark Nicholas. Great broadcaster.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    "I've got to say this to you..", "Let me say this to you..", "Let me answer it directly.."

    Is this Axelrod?
  • IOS
    IOS Posts: 1,450
    Did well there Miliband. Not an easy start on the questions!
  • Ishmael_X
    Ishmael_X Posts: 3,664
    I'm calling it: this is Sheffield. Tipping point.
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,458
    KentRising said:

    Blueberry said:

    I'm listening on the radio and get the impression Cameron is nailing this. Lots of energy, articulate and very strong on the detail. He's doing well.

    Impressive. Still won't be voting for him though ;-)
    Prime Minister Ed Miliband will be laid SOLELY at your door!
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Pong said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    This is audience are taking no prisoners.

    Good luck Cleggy :)
    He copes well. He handled the Last Leg very well last week.

  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Labour didn't overspend.

    Clueless.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Doesn't agree Labour overspent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Flusterband.
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    Con supporters in audience are really well primed for attacking Miliband on Lab overspending.
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    Oh dear. Miliband seems to have just said 'I know more about running a business than you'. He's coming across as very patronising and holier-and-thou.
  • Greenwich_Floater
    Greenwich_Floater Posts: 389
    Here come the friendly questions.

    Typical Pravda
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Ed says spending was not too high in last Labour government.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    CCHQ will be putting that on every poster, video etc etc.

    Miliband killed.
  • paulyork64
    paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    Ed = you can trust me on the economy but i dont regret anything the last labour administration spent.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Even CCHQ couldn't have picked harsher questioners.
  • FalseFlag
    FalseFlag Posts: 1,801
    That weird looking fella is nowhere near as impressive as Cameron. The question is why do the media never ask Labour these questions?

    Clegg will hopefully put the boot in too.
  • Saltire
    Saltire Posts: 525
    It was the economy that won it!
  • Razedabode
    Razedabode Posts: 3,117
    I get the sense Ed is lecturing the audience...doesn't look good for him so far
  • geoffw
    geoffw Posts: 9,161
    Overspending does it.
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Even CCHQ couldn't have picked harsher questioners.

    It's vicious, I'm loving it.
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Someone call a lifeguard, we have a man drowning live on TV.
  • Floater
    Floater Posts: 14,207
    Ouch re Milliband
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    I'm enjoying this.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Chameleon said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Even CCHQ couldn't have picked harsher questioners.

    It's vicious, I'm loving it.
    Far better than scripted point scoring in debates.
  • john_zims
    john_zims Posts: 3,399
    Ed getting savaged by friendly audience,pure comedy.
  • Fenster
    Fenster Posts: 2,115
    I can't believe Ed just said they didn't overspend.

    Geez. The fact they overspent was factored in.

    Why on earth did he say that???
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    This could be a game changer.

    Has there ever been a QT audience that has helped Con as much as this?
  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    edited April 2015
    Cameron has won this hands down, finding it quite hard to watch!

    WTF are we going to waste half an hour with Clegg?
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    I told you lot, West Yorkshire is where this election is going to be won and lost.

    From my canvassing experience, this audience is typical of the electorate round these parts.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Fenster said:

    I can't believe Ed just said they didn't overspend.

    Geez. The fact they overspent was factored in.

    Why on earth did he say that???

    Bet the BBC do their best to finesse what was an absolute shocker of a 10 mins from Miliband.
  • marke09
    marke09 Posts: 926
    Any Leanne Wood fans ? She is on BBC one Wales at 10.40pm
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    Now on to the SNP!
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Oh dear. Did Ed Miliband just rule out being the next Prime Minister?
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    Miliband lol.finally a format that has exposed his altogether obvious shortcomings!
  • Gallowgate
    Gallowgate Posts: 20,709
    I think Ed is doing extremely well but then again I'd never vote Conservative in a million years.
  • paulyork64
    paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    edited April 2015
    who's taught these politicians that repeating the questioners name back to them makes them more impressive.
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    Con Most Seats in from 1.30 to 1.28 since start of QT.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    marke09 said:

    Any Leanne Wood fans ? She is on BBC one Wales at 10.40pm

    After the watershed essential for some on PB!
  • Ishmael_X
    Ishmael_X Posts: 3,664
    Just when you think it can't get any better, it does.
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    Casino_Royale said:

    Oh dear. Did Ed Miliband just rule out being the next Prime Minister?

    No - he may have just told a very big lie, but by the time he's found out it will be too late.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I told you lot, West Yorkshire is where this election is going to be won and lost.

    From my canvassing experience, this audience is typical of the electorate round these parts.

    Hats off to the people of Leeds. What a contrast with the usual insipid and ignorant QT audience.
  • Stereotomy
    Stereotomy Posts: 4,092
    Wow, Ed saying all sorts of newsworthy things.
  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Posts: 408
    KentRising said:

    Blueberry said:

    I'm listening on the radio and get the impression Cameron is nailing this. Lots of energy, articulate and very strong on the detail. He's doing well.

    Impressive. Still won't be voting for him though ;-)
    Me neither, but it was a good performance, and will reassure a few floaters.

    Regardless of the arguments, Miliband's delivery is just not as good.
  • logical_song
    logical_song Posts: 10,082
    isam said:

    Cameron has won this hands down

    WTF are we going to waste half an hour with Clegg?

    Cameron had 1/2 hour, Ed's had 15 minutes, but I guess you'd already made up your mind before he started.
    Clegg will get 5 times as many seats as UKIP, that's why he gets 1/2 hour too.
  • geoffw
    geoffw Posts: 9,161
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I told you lot, West Yorkshire is where this election is going to be won and lost. //

    Leeds is the new Sheffield!
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    His worm has just gone subterranean
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I told you lot, West Yorkshire is where this election is going to be won and lost.

    From my canvassing experience, this audience is typical of the electorate round these parts.

    I love the Yorkshire.
  • Saltire
    Saltire Posts: 525
    Is Miliband really just ruling out any Labour government unless it is the biggest party?
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Ed utterly floundering and holding himself to plenty of hostages of fortune
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