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'I admired Ed for agreeing with me'0
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Christ on a bike, what was that first question?0
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Cameron was very weak indeed, I am surprised!0
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A folksy casual style for the public q&a. Not sure how that works.0
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Disaster?roserees64 said:Disater for Cameron, low bar for Miliband.
Hardly. It was hard, but hardly disaster status.
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PM better with first question about Ed's qualities. More personable.0
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I predict people will say Cameron improves in this section before slagging off Ed for the remainder of the show0
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That is a good point...when was Cameron, Miliband, etc last on QT or Newsnight. The only one they do these days is Marr couple of times a year and Marr's style is more sly digs and he isn't that persistent.FrankBooth said:A thought has just occured to me. None of the politicians do many of these tough interviews anymore. They simply won't be match fit the way Blair for all his faults was. As for all the preparation they've done - it's a bit like England practising penalties. You can't replicate the match situation.
Remember when politicians used to regularly do 30 min grillings, I mean interviews.0 -
Politicians already care about old people.
Changing skills in the political class I guess. It's just too risky for them to do it normally, so they never learn properly. A shame.FrancisUrquhart said:
That is a good point...when was Cameron, Miliband, etc last on QT or Newsnight. The only one they do these days is Marr couple of times a year. Remember when politicians used to regularly do 30 mins interviews.FrankBooth said:A thought has just occured to me. None of the politicians do many of these tough interviews anymore. They simply won't be match fit the way Blair for all his faults was. As for all the preparation they've done - it's a bit like England practising penalties. You can't replicate the match situation.
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This audience Q&A is fluff so far.0
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What's the question? Watching Fortitude atm.OldKingCole said:First public question utter nonsense
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DC really good at this.0
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Cameron seems more comfortable and passionate now. More natural. Better.0
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And Marr is completely useless.FrancisUrquhart said:
That is a good point...when was Cameron, Miliband, etc last on QT or Newsnight. The only one they do these days is Marr couple of times a year. Remember when politicians used to regularly do 30 mins interviews.FrankBooth said:A thought has just occured to me. None of the politicians do many of these tough interviews anymore. They simply won't be match fit the way Blair for all his faults was. As for all the preparation they've done - it's a bit like England practising penalties. You can't replicate the match situation.
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Will the next question be, who is his favourite Spice Girl? What the hell are these questions?Don't they call this a "dolly" in cricket?0
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Complete schmoozer. It's why I don't like him.Casino_Royale said:Cameron seems more comfortable and passionate now. More natural. Better.
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"What would you describe as Ed Miliband's best quality" (roughly)MaxPB said:
What's the question? Watching Fortitude atm.OldKingCole said:First public question utter nonsense
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I think Ed has made a mistake here. People's last impression of Cameron will be how he answers the, presumably, easier questions from the audience (I am not watching this so it could in theory be a bloodbath). People's last impression of Ed Miliband will be how he answers Paxman's more searching questions.0
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I Know,saving them for Ed ;-)compouter2 said:Will the next question be, who is his favourite Spice Girl? What the hell are these questions?Don't they call this a "dolly" in cricket?
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I want Call e Dave to win but I can really see how he grates on some people...0
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Old people vote, but I always wondered how relatively likely they were to switch (or change their turnout levels). Maybe focussing on them is actually inefficient strategy.kle4 said:Politicians already care about old people.
Changing skills in the political class I guess. It's just too risky for them to do it normally, so they never learn properly. A shame.FrancisUrquhart said:
That is a good point...when was Cameron, Miliband, etc last on QT or Newsnight. The only one they do these days is Marr couple of times a year. Remember when politicians used to regularly do 30 mins interviews.FrankBooth said:A thought has just occured to me. None of the politicians do many of these tough interviews anymore. They simply won't be match fit the way Blair for all his faults was. As for all the preparation they've done - it's a bit like England practising penalties. You can't replicate the match situation.
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Hard working people!0
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I say it exactly how I think it is. I think most pb'ers are the same. Cameron is getting much better now.isam said:I predict people will say Cameron improves in this section before slagging off Ed for the remainder of the show
He wasn't with Paxman earlier and was starting to get agitated and defensive.0 -
Vague question from Mr Gap Yah, nice and easy to answer for DC. Let's have some specifics.0
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Three questions so far you would expect from Tory MP's at PMQ's. This is farcical.0
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I wouldn't say he is useless, but he isn't persistent, he isn't aggressive and I would say he isn't always that well prepped (even before the stroke). What he seems to do instead is insert sly digs, and as long as you rise above that, normally ok.tlg86 said:
And Marr is completely useless.FrancisUrquhart said:
That is a good point...when was Cameron, Miliband, etc last on QT or Newsnight. The only one they do these days is Marr couple of times a year. Remember when politicians used to regularly do 30 mins interviews.FrankBooth said:A thought has just occured to me. None of the politicians do many of these tough interviews anymore. They simply won't be match fit the way Blair for all his faults was. As for all the preparation they've done - it's a bit like England practising penalties. You can't replicate the match situation.
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Cameron doing ok. Lots of schmaltzy nonsense to the audience who are more likely to buy it.0
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From the Guardian (not really noted for being a Tory newspaper)
"Paxman interviews Cameron - Snap verdict: What a class act. Paxman, of course. Not just because the questions were aggressive, but because they were pointed, clever, witty (and aggressive). It was Cameron’s most uncomfortable 20 minutes in an interview for ages. His concession that he could not live on a zero hours contract is already being used against him by Labour, but overall he held up reasonably well, and even managed a lighthearted comment at the end."0 -
But none of them mentioned the long term economic plan, so, no.compouter2 said:Three questions so far you would expect from Tory MP's at PMQ's. This is farcical.
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Maybe that was part of the agreement with the broadcasters - Look, Dave, Ed, we'll let Paxo loose, but we'll lob some soft balls for you to hit from the audience too.compouter2 said:Will the next question be, who is his favourite Spice Girl? What the hell are these questions?Don't they call this a "dolly" in cricket?
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Cameron is much better relating to the audience, he is in his zone here.0
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Boring0
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Oh dear - I was getting quite excited there until the last sentence. But then again i am watching BBC programme on Pakistan Railways and its border with India. Fascinating stuff. As I'm sure you already know.SeanT said:
Oh give over. Who the F gives a F what you think, when you have never posted anything but tedious pro-Labour bilge?roserees64 said:Cameron was very weak indeed, I am surprised!
Why do you fecking bother? Really. What a waste of a life.
If you're not being paid to type, a penny a letter, do something else.
Same goes for Tory cheerleaders, of course.
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Andrew Neil is much better. Neil actually takes an interest in his subject. Marr is just a personality who wants to be on TV.FrancisUrquhart said:
I wouldn't say he is useless, but he isn't persistent, he isn't aggressive and I would say he isn't always that well prepped (even before the stroke). What he seems to do instead is insert sly digs, and as long as you rise above that, normally ok.tlg86 said:
And Marr is completely useless.FrancisUrquhart said:
That is a good point...when was Cameron, Miliband, etc last on QT or Newsnight. The only one they do these days is Marr couple of times a year. Remember when politicians used to regularly do 30 mins interviews.FrankBooth said:A thought has just occured to me. None of the politicians do many of these tough interviews anymore. They simply won't be match fit the way Blair for all his faults was. As for all the preparation they've done - it's a bit like England practising penalties. You can't replicate the match situation.
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Wow. What's the point. Should have given Paxo the extra 20 mins.RobD said:
"What would you describe as Ed Miliband's best quality" (roughly)MaxPB said:
What's the question? Watching Fortitude atm.OldKingCole said:First public question utter nonsense
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You prefer people who are objectionable and unable to lead? Such a lot of bilge. Schmoozer is another way of saying 'communicator'.tlg86 said:
Complete schmoozer. It's why I don't like him.Casino_Royale said:Cameron seems more comfortable and passionate now. More natural. Better.
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This is embarrasing. I expect the next one to be "Dave, what is your favourite colour and was that colour in a worse state before the coalition took over, by the way I think you look dashing tonight".Tykejohnno said:
I Know,saving them for Ed ;-)compouter2 said:Will the next question be, who is his favourite Spice Girl? What the hell are these questions?Don't they call this a "dolly" in cricket?
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More nostalgia I'd say.kle4 said:Politicians already care about old people.
Changing skills in the political class I guess. It's just too risky for them to do it normally, so they never learn properly. A shame.FrancisUrquhart said:
That is a good point...when was Cameron, Miliband, etc last on QT or Newsnight. The only one they do these days is Marr couple of times a year. Remember when politicians used to regularly do 30 mins interviews.FrankBooth said:A thought has just occured to me. None of the politicians do many of these tough interviews anymore. They simply won't be match fit the way Blair for all his faults was. As for all the preparation they've done - it's a bit like England practising penalties. You can't replicate the match situation.
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Just making a forecast no need for a defenceCasino_Royale said:
I say it exactly how I think it is. I think most pb'ers are the same. Cameron is getting much better now.isam said:I predict people will say Cameron improves in this section before slagging off Ed for the remainder of the show
He wasn't with Paxman earlier and was starting to get agitated and defensive.0 -
Agreed. I like Neil, because he knows his stuff and he also has a variety of techniques to make those he interviews uncomfortable. Paxman is Mr Aggrro, Cameron was stupid not to think that is how he would be.tlg86 said:
Andrew Neil is much better. Neil actually takes an interest in his subject. Marr is just a personality who wants to be on TV.FrancisUrquhart said:
I wouldn't say he is useless, but he isn't persistent, he isn't aggressive and I would say he isn't always that well prepped (even before the stroke). What he seems to do instead is insert sly digs, and as long as you rise above that, normally ok.tlg86 said:
And Marr is completely useless.FrancisUrquhart said:
That is a good point...when was Cameron, Miliband, etc last on QT or Newsnight. The only one they do these days is Marr couple of times a year. Remember when politicians used to regularly do 30 mins interviews.FrankBooth said:A thought has just occured to me. None of the politicians do many of these tough interviews anymore. They simply won't be match fit the way Blair for all his faults was. As for all the preparation they've done - it's a bit like England practising penalties. You can't replicate the match situation.
Neil sometimes goes aggro and others he does the nicely nicely matey matey...zinger question...approach.0 -
lolcompouter2 said:Three questions so far you would expect from Tory MP's at PMQ's. This is farcical.
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Not many people are as verbally aggessive as Paxman.Casino_Royale said:
I say it exactly how I think it is. I think most pb'ers are the same. Cameron is getting much better now.isam said:I predict people will say Cameron improves in this section before slagging off Ed for the remainder of the show
He wasn't with Paxman earlier and was starting to get agitated and defensive.
Cameron is handling the audience well. The Clegasm like noting of the questioners name is there, but he should look at the camera rather than the questioner. Remember where the audience are.0 -
I think it's quite a good question. Just imagine how much Brown would have struggled with it.MaxPB said:
Wow. What's the point. Should have given Paxo the extra 20 mins.RobD said:
"What would you describe as Ed Miliband's best quality" (roughly)MaxPB said:
What's the question? Watching Fortitude atm.OldKingCole said:First public question utter nonsense
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Cameron has a sincerity deficit, millionaire talking about not leaving debts for one's children.0
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might as well be speaking to a local sixth form with teachers looking on. Soft soft soft and pointless. More Paxo would have been far better.0
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A debate is less likely to be boring, but it could be - if all seven just talk past each other with their prepared spin statements. Fingers crossed.SeanT said:Again, this is boring. A debate is NOT boring. This is.
I'm in two minds - typically. I think more people are likely to have seen the very start, and thus the bit Cameron did worse in, and are not as likely to stick around for all the rest. But maybe some more people will tune in and catch the end, when (and we cannot be sure) Ed might do worse.weejonnie said:I think Ed has made a mistake here. People's last impression of Cameron will be how he answers the, presumably, easier questions from the audience (I am not watching this so it could in theory be a bloodbath). People's last impression of Ed Miliband will be how he answers Paxman's more searching questions.
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So far I remember the questions of the audience but I can't remember Cameron's answers.
He shorta drifts out of focus.0 -
Translation: Cameron is doing well in this piece, and I don't like it.compouter2 said:Will the next question be, who is his favourite Spice Girl? What the hell are these questions?Don't they call this a "dolly" in cricket?
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Very soft audience. Hardly Question Time.0
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You could - and I expect many do - argue that Farage is a schmoozer. But at least he believes in something. Someone on here pointed out that Cameron admitted to not particularly liking being PM in the Lansdale piece. I want politicians who actually want to do something because they believe in it. I just don't get what Cameron believes in - apart from being PM.Mortimer said:
You prefer people who are objectionable and unable to lead? Such a lot of bilge. Schmoozer is another way of saying 'communicator'.tlg86 said:
Complete schmoozer. It's why I don't like him.Casino_Royale said:Cameron seems more comfortable and passionate now. More natural. Better.
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Pah, audience QA is tedious. More Paxo would have been better.0
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You're serious? No Labour millionaires have ever said something like that?roserees64 said:Cameron has a sincerity deficit, millionaire talking about not leaving debts for one's children.
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Unemployd disabled people are the result of employers failing to employ tham.0
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I refer you to Sean TCasino_Royale said:
Translation: Cameron is doing well in this piece, and I don't like it.compouter2 said:Will the next question be, who is his favourite Spice Girl? What the hell are these questions?Don't they call this a "dolly" in cricket?
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It sounds like they did the grilling first, then added the cheese.
#youredoingitwrong
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Whereas you'd prefer a millionaire Labour leader to leave debts for the next generation?roserees64 said:Cameron has a sincerity deficit, millionaire talking about not leaving debts for one's children.
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titterMarkHopkins said:
It sounds like they did the grilling first, then added the cheese.
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What's the point? It's fairly obvious you'd sacrifice your first born for Ed, if he asked you. At least try and have a semblance of balance, this is just plain embarrassing.roserees64 said:Cameron has a sincerity deficit, millionaire talking about not leaving debts for one's children.
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This is easy. And Mili is doing this first and finishing with Paxo? Big mistake.0
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Not 'opt out' of the EU? Good job I'm not answering the questions.
PS. Cameron's answer makes him sound dangerously like a eurosceptic. Pushing my buttons as a shaky Con/UKIP waverer0 -
Yes or no, Dave0
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Including Ed Miliband.kle4 said:
You're serious? No Labour millionaires have ever said something like that?roserees64 said:Cameron has a sincerity deficit, millionaire talking about not leaving debts for one's children.
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Yes. I think your little exchange there shows how pointless these interviews/debates are. Any answer is twisted by an opponent. If you are a supporter its inevitable that you would make allowances or take the point. If you are a DK then the nature of the format will not be enlightening.Mortimer said:
Rubbish. He said that they suit some people. And they do. Get in the real world - without zero hours there would be fewer jobs, lower economic growth, more reliance on a state that can not afford to spend as much as it does.tlg86 said:The only thing that struck me as possibly significant is that Cameron admitted to not being able to live on a zero hours contract.
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Very brief this, both Paxo and Q&A. Needed more time to get these guys sweating (even with softball questions, the more there are the greater the chance they gaffe)
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Cameron's saving grace of his 20 minutes with Paxman is that the GE isn't for another 6 weeks and despite not doing very well, there wasn't anything new in terms of attacks. Labour / Guardian / BBC axis have been banging on about food banks and zero hour contracts for the past 5 years.0
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@jameskirkup: Just in case you ever wondered, #Battle4Number10 so far proves why democracy needs good journalists.0
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Very good on the NHS there.0
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No top down reorganisation!0
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Yes, but by that logic it shows how all political discourse is pointless. We should just have them all sit in offices all day and then put leaflets through our letterboxes and not interact with each other or the media at all, as their opponents will always just twist whatever they say.Flightpath said:
Yes. I think your little exchange there shows how pointless these interviews/debates are. Any answer is twisted by an opponent. IMortimer said:
Rubbish. He said that they suit some people. And they do. Get in the real world - without zero hours there would be fewer jobs, lower economic growth, more reliance on a state that can not afford to spend as much as it does.tlg86 said:The only thing that struck me as possibly significant is that Cameron admitted to not being able to live on a zero hours contract.
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Christ, who let her in, she has asked a proper question....get her out.0
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Look at his answer on the NHS servises, he is just blabbering from start to finish not answering the question, and that is on all audience questions so far.0
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Look at the start of this thread. I've criticised Cameron.compouter2 said:
I refer you to Sean TCasino_Royale said:
Translation: Cameron is doing well in this piece, and I don't like it.compouter2 said:Will the next question be, who is his favourite Spice Girl? What the hell are these questions?Don't they call this a "dolly" in cricket?
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ouch. That NHS question was brutal.0
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@PaulBrandITV: Uh oh, this is Vicky who led the campaign to stop closure of Lewisham A&E unit!!!!0
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All three kids names dropped
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Sorry, I wasn't suggesting that zero hours contracts are the worst thing in the World or anything - I was just pointing out something that could be used against him in the coming hours/days.Flightpath said:
Yes. I think your little exchange there shows how pointless these interviews/debates are. Any answer is twisted by an opponent. If you are a supporter its inevitable that you would make allowances or take the point. If you are a DK then the nature of the format will not be enlightening.Mortimer said:
Rubbish. He said that they suit some people. And they do. Get in the real world - without zero hours there would be fewer jobs, lower economic growth, more reliance on a state that can not afford to spend as much as it does.tlg86 said:The only thing that struck me as possibly significant is that Cameron admitted to not being able to live on a zero hours contract.
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I really don't agree. Zero hours and food banks have not resonated with Midlands marginal voters. Can't see why it's going to change anything now...FrancisUrquhart said:Cameron's saving grace of his 20 minutes with Paxman is that the GE isn't for another 6 weeks and despite not doing very well, there wasn't anything new in terms of attacks. Labour / Guardian / BBC axis have been banging on about food banks and zero hour contracts for the past 5 years.
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We will see how his interview and questions go. If Ed first question isn't "Do you love your wife and children", this is a fix :-)Casino_Royale said:
Look at the start of this thread. I've criticised Cameron.compouter2 said:
I refer you to Sean TCasino_Royale said:
Translation: Cameron is doing well in this piece, and I don't like it.compouter2 said:Will the next question be, who is his favourite Spice Girl? What the hell are these questions?Don't they call this a "dolly" in cricket?
Do you ever criticise Labour or Miliband? Or are you a tedious unthinking partisan?
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Cameron/Audience 7.5/100
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So it will be the right order for Miliband then?MarkHopkins said:
It sounds like they did the grilling first, then added the cheese.
#youredoingitwrong
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Shredded wheat bit, are you having a giraffe0
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compouter2 said:
We will see how his interview and questions go. If Ed first question isn't "Do you love your wife and children", this is a fix :-)Casino_Royale said:
Look at the start of this thread. I've criticised Cameron.compouter2 said:
I refer you to Sean TCasino_Royale said:
Translation: Cameron is doing well in this piece, and I don't like it.compouter2 said:Will the next question be, who is his favourite Spice Girl? What the hell are these questions?Don't they call this a "dolly" in cricket?
Do you ever criticise Labour or Miliband? Or are you a tedious unthinking partisan?
Have you ever had three shreaded wheat ......FFS!!!!0 -
Cameron looks like he's got a black (right) eye. Has he been anywhere near Clarkson?0
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Innings over. Lost several wickets early, but the tail end scored easy runs against some soft bowling...0
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Errhhh that is what I am saying. Those attacks aren't new and Cameron has been attacked repeatedly about them. It used to be every single PMQ's that a Labour MP would ask a question on food banks and if Cameron had stopped beating his wife.Mortimer said:
I really don't agree. Zero hours and food banks have not resonated with Midlands marginal voters. Can't see why it's going to change anything now...FrancisUrquhart said:Cameron's saving grace of his 20 minutes with Paxman is that the GE isn't for another 6 weeks and despite not doing very well, there wasn't anything new in terms of attacks. Labour / Guardian / BBC axis have been banging on about food banks and zero hour contracts for the past 5 years.
There is actually other things, NHS reogranization is one, but the Coalitions core purpose deficit reduction that Paxman could have shredded Cameron on, that don't normally get as bigger screening.
Most of the public thing the Coalition has cut debt...and the half truths about deficit. I would have shredded Cameron on that, as economic componence is the key stone of the Coalition.0 -
So, what will be the proportion of 'These interviews will swing this election' nutter comments, and the 'These interviews will have no impact and everyone was saying they would swing everything (even though most people were not)' nutter comments, I wonder?0
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What was interesting was that he neither got nor took any real opportunities to criticise his opponents. It was what would he do. What's the betting Ed doesn't really want to do that?0
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Three shredded wheat.....Three shredded fecking wheat....what the feck is this shoite?0
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Hmm. I think viewers will dismiss the audience bit from their minds and concentrate on the Paxman bits. I expect Ed is going to get a duffing.0
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I think I remembered why I tend to avoid political interviews.0
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Advantage for Miliband to go second - but not an advantage for him to do Q&A before Paxman, He will finish with Paxman which is much tougher than Q&A.0
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Gary Lineker (@GaryLineker)
26/03/2015 21:41
Audience questions after Paxman is like when Spurs bring on Soldado for Harry Kane.0 -
My wife's comment "pretty good with an audience". Didn't answer what actual questions thee were though.0
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Oh god. Can he stop talking about the strong economy, all the bloody time. Is that it? Is that all we're going to get. Strong economy. Strong economy. Strong economy and yes did I forget to say the strong economy.0
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Bercow. Cameron's nemesis.tyson said:Cameron looks like he's got a black (right) eye. Has he been anywhere near Clarkson?
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